[02:44] <loca> webcam question please: trying to figure out how to test to see if a webcam is working. Tried gstreamer-properties but got nowhere
[02:47] <loca> error messages were the likes of this:
[02:47] <loca> gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'Video for Linux 2 (v4l2)': Cannot identify device '/dev/video0'. [v4l2_calls.c(488): gst_v4l2_open (): /GstPipeline:pipeline1/GstV4l2Src:v4l2src1:
[02:47] <loca> system error: No such file or directory]
[02:47] <loca> gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'Video for Linux (v4l)': Device "/dev/video0" does not exist. [v4l_calls.c(168): gst_v4l_open (): /GstPipeline:pipeline2/GstV4lSrc:v4lsrc1]
[02:47] <loca> gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'Video for Linux 2 (v4l2)': Cannot identify device '/dev/video0'. [v4l2_calls.c(488): gst_v4l2_open (): /GstPipeline:pipeline3/GstV4l2Src:v4l2src2:
[02:47] <loca> system error: No such file or directory]
[02:47] <aveilleux> pastebin | loca
[02:47] <aveilleux> e
[02:48] <aveilleux> !pastebin |loca
[02:48] <ubot2> loca: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[02:48] <aveilleux> there we go.
[02:48] <loca> thank you, will do
[02:49] <loca> anyone have a suggestion on how to test a webcam?
[03:02] <aveilleux> loca: According to that error output, there is no recognized webcam device.
[03:03] <loca> thanks aveilleux, that's what I was thinking. However, it's a new laptop with a webcam above the screen. Wondering if cam might be broken, or if there's a test I can do
[03:04] <loca> or if I'm just missing a driver. (newbie to ubuntu)
[03:04] <aveilleux> !webcam |loca
[03:04] <ubot2> loca: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:04] <aveilleux> Try that
[03:04] <loca> thanks again, will do
[11:01] <hassanz> hi my sound is not working after upgrade
[13:30] <oufofhand> hi, can someone assist me ... i have installed ubuntu 10.04 but when i plug in my huawei usb modem .,, i cant find how to dial up
[14:14] <harrison> outofhand still there?
[14:15] <harrison> guess not
[14:15] <harrison> Anyone here need help and is here?
[14:17] <paultag> harrison: thanks for helping out, I've seen your nick a lot lately
[14:23] <harrison> your welcome
[14:24] <harrison> I am half sick so I have very few things better to do.
[14:24] <harrison> might as well help someone
[16:16] <Guest5500> hello
[16:18] <Guest5500> how can i change the programs folder to another partition ???
[16:22] <philinux> Guest5500: whats the problem
[16:22] <Guest5500> hi
[16:23] <Guest5500> im using ubuntu software center to download new stuff
[16:24] <Guest5500> when i install, nothing tells me, where i want it
[16:25] <philinux> Linux is not like windows there is no programs folder as such. Does the app turn up in the menu system?
[16:25] <Guest5500> yes
[16:25] <Guest5500> and it works
[16:26] <Guest5500> i want to install on another partition
[16:27] <Guest5500> i have 2 partitions
[16:27] <Guest5500> file system and storage
[16:27] <Guest5500> file system 9gb
[16:27] <Guest5500> storage 60gb
[16:28] <philinux> What do you want to do with the 9g partition
[16:29] <Guest5500> save space for ubuntu updates etc
[16:29] <Guest5500> other progs go to "storage"
[16:30] <Guest5500> but i cant
[16:30] <Guest5500> every time i install, goes to "file system"
[16:31] <philinux> How much space is left on the 9g partition. You can fine out with the command df -h
[16:31] <Guest5500> -h
[16:31] <Guest5500> just that
[16:31] <Guest5500> ok
[16:31] <philinux> df -h
[16:31] <Guest5500> 6.1G
[16:32] <philinux> Is that space left or used?
[16:32] <Guest5500> left
[16:32] <philinux> No worries then at all
[16:32] <Guest5500> how can i prevent that
[16:33] <philinux> Mine is exactly the same. There's nothing to prevent
[16:33] <Guest5500> ok
[16:33] <Guest5500> so there isnt a way to specify a programs folder
[16:33] <philinux> As long as you use your 60g for music vid files etc
[16:33] <Guest5500> like windows?
[16:33] <philinux> No
[16:34] <Guest5500> hehehe
[16:34] <Guest5500> another thing
[16:34] <philinux> Read these to to see how linux organise itself. http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102 http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[16:34] <Guest5500> why this new version 10 is kind of slow
[16:35] <philinux> Slow how
[16:35] <Guest5500> slow
[16:35] <Guest5500> if im copying something
[16:35] <philinux> Internet or using the desktop and apps
[16:35] <Guest5500> i cant listen to music
[16:35] <philinux> .Whats are the pc specs
[16:36] <Guest5500> im using a laptop pentium M 1.86ghz 512MB DDR2 80GB HDD
[16:37] <philinux> What does this command show free -m
[16:37] <Guest5500> 26
[16:37] <Guest5500> hows that possible
[16:38] <philinux> You need to paste the output here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/ then paste the link back here
[16:38] <Guest5500> i only have 5 firefox tabs and vlc
[16:38] <Guest5500> playin music
[16:39] <philinux> linux uses memory completely diff from windows the important line is the +- buffers figures
[16:40] <philinux> i.e. much better
[16:40] <paultag> philinux: you saw that back and forth with me and that other fella, eh?
[16:40] <Guest5500> now what
[16:40] <paultag> philinux: linuxatemyram.com
[16:40] <Guest5500> free -m
[16:40] <Guest5500>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[16:40] <Guest5500> Mem:           487        461         26          0          3        230
[16:40] <Guest5500> -/+ buffers/cache:        227        260
[16:40] <Guest5500> Swap:          939        184        755
[16:40] <paultag> Guest5500: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[16:40] <paultag> !pastebin | Guest5500
[16:40] <ubot2> Guest5500: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[16:40] <philinux> Guest5500: looks just fine
[16:40] <paultag> yeah, you've got 260 megs free
[16:40] <philinux> paultag: no what back and forth
[16:41] <paultag> philinux: I had this conversation a few days ago in here
[16:41] <paultag> Guest5500: read through http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[16:41] <philinux> paultag: go on
[16:41] <paultag> philinux: nothing more :)
[16:41] <Guest5500> ok
[16:41] <philinux> Guest55 what does the command top show
[16:42] <Guest5500> why video playin is kind of slow
[16:42] <philinux> Guest5500: have you got integrated graphics?
[16:42] <Guest5500> yes
[16:42] <philinux> Disable compiz
[16:43] <philinux> Guest5500: sys>prefs>appearance>Visual effect > NONE
[16:43] <Guest5500> compiz?
[16:43] <Guest5500> where? vlc ?
[16:43] <philinux> paultag: can't recollect what happened
[16:43] <philinux> sys>prefs>appearance>Visual effect > NONE
[16:44] <Guest5500> done
[16:44] <Guest5500> let me test
[16:45] <paultag> philinux: I can pull logs if you really want, but it's long
[16:45] <Guest5500> plus
[16:45] <Guest5500> a strange thing happens
[16:45] <philinux> paultag: nah it's ok.
[16:45] <paultag> righto
[16:45] <Guest5500> if i dont specify the video output module
[16:46] <Guest5500> to opengl
[16:46] <philinux> paultag: I'll have a look myself. What date?
[16:48] <philinux> paultag: which user was it
[16:49] <paultag> philinux: not too long ago
[16:49] <paultag> philinux: and not sure
[16:49] <paultag> philinux: search for linode
[16:50] <Guest5500> soo any help
[16:53] <philinux> Guest5500: what it like with visual effects none
[17:16] <out-of-hand> can anyone help me please
[17:18] <out-of-hand> i have recently installed ubuntu 10.04 for a client, and it works well ... but the problem im having is when i plug in the huawei e220 ... into the usb port ... it allows me to setup a connection ... but when i wanna try connect by it ... it does not bring it up on the connection status
[17:19] <out-of-hand> i plug the modem in ... and it see's it as a hard drive  , also if i lsusb it shows that the e220 is connected
[17:23] <philinux> out-of-hand: install this usb-modeswitch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/446146
[17:23] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 446146 in linux (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 2 other projects) "Several Huawei USB dongle don't work with kernel 2.6.31-12.40 (2.6.31.1 update related) (affects: 179) (dups: 16) (heat: 854)" [High,Fix committed]
[17:23] <out-of-hand> ok let me check
[17:23] <out-of-hand> thanks
[17:48] <paultag> nhandler: I'm having one hell of a time with a rules file
[17:49] <paultag> nhandler: any chance you have a minute?
[17:49] <nhandler> paultag: Yeah, but if it is the fluxbox rules file, I might not be much help
[17:50] <paultag> nhandler: I've re-written it
[17:50] <paultag> nhandler: it's for a recipie
[17:50] <paultag> nhandler: http://pastebin.com/2Pj2kKbn <-- rules | http://pastebin.com/JW5NGG1Y <-- error
[17:51] <paultag> nhandler: I have no idea why it's doing this
[17:51] <paultag> nhandler: I'm beyond befuddled, my rules don't do anything
[17:52] <nhandler> paultag: Out of curiosity, why haven't you switched to dh7 ?
[17:52] <paultag> nhandler: It was giving me the same error, so I figured I'd try it manually
[17:53] <paultag> nhandler: it's like my rules are not doing anything at all
[17:54] <nhandler> paultag: Have a copy of the package?
[17:55] <paultag> nhandler: bzr branch lp:fluxbox   bzr branch lp:lp:~fluxbox-maintainers/fluxbox/debian-dir
[17:55] <paultag> you might also need to bzr branch lp:~fluxbox-maintainers/fluxbox/debian-themes
[17:55] <paultag> as theme
[17:56] <paultag> nhandler: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~fluxbox-maintainers/+recipe/fluxbox-bloody
[17:56] <paultag> that might help more
[17:57] <nhandler> That one fails patching data/keys. Did you try re-running with the patch disabled?
[17:59] <paultag> I thought I removed my patches
[17:59] <paultag> yeah I did
[18:00] <paultag> nhandler: no patches in latest. Those builds are old ( but the same problem )
[18:07] <paultag> nhandler: ideas?
[18:07] <paultag> because it's pissing me the fuck off
[18:09] <nhandler> paultag: Sorry, still working on it (multitasking)
[18:09] <paultag> np
[18:29] <paultag> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54
[18:41] <philinux> paultag: Hi, is you an experty on dns lookups
[18:41] <paultag> philinux: not really, but I can try
[18:41] <paultag> philinux: what's usp
[18:41] <paultag> up
[18:42] <philinux> Had really slow net today sporadic. Firefox just sitting there. IRC ok and email ok
[18:42] <paultag> that's not dns
[18:42] <paultag> that's traffic over port 80
[18:42] <paultag> philinux: try debugging it via telnet
[18:42] <paultag> philinux: you can see if it's browser side or if it's network side
[18:42] <philinux> Saw a suggestion to put 192.168.1.1 etc into auto dhcp and it worked
[18:43] <paultag> radical
[18:44] <philinux> It's only today been really bed. I hade open dns settings in there too
[18:44] <philinux> Why would 192.168.1.1 make a diff
[18:44] <paultag> if that's your router it might give you a better pointer to the dhcp server / route
[18:44] <philinux> ah
[18:44] <paultag> so if it's trying to do a route lookup and tries spamming and the router is slow, it could have issues
[18:44] <paultag> but I have no idea
[18:45] <philinux> Yep it's the router address
[18:45] <philinux> Anyway it worked
[18:45] <paultag> philinux: try `route`, and see if it's your gateway
[18:45] <philinux> err how to do that
[18:45] <paultag> philinux: open a terminal
[18:45] <paultag> philinux: type `route`, then hit enter
[18:46] <philinux> ok shall I paste bin that
[18:47] <philinux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/480039/
[18:48] <paultag> woh
[18:48] <paultag> wtf
[18:49] <paultag> what in the hell is  SE587WLANdsl.ti
[18:49] <paultag> philinux: do you have a lan card?
[18:49] <philinux> in pc yep I reckon
[18:49] <paultag> ah, must be it
[18:49] <paultag> yeah looks normalish
[18:49] <paultag> normal enough, really
[18:50] <philinux> so 192.168.1.1 is router but what is 192.168.1.0?
[18:51] <paultag> IIRC that's its IP facing the modem
[18:51] <paultag> don't quote me
[18:51] <paultag> I hate networking
[18:51] <philinux> ok lol. Well I have to say browsing is much faster now
[18:52] <paultag> kewl
[18:53] <paultag> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg52OSGmg7g&feature=related
[19:02] <teja> hie...i want to configure compiz config with some special effects like brick maximize can anyone help how to do it
[19:12] <duanedesign> hello teja
[19:13] <teja> hey...
[19:13] <teja> hru?
[19:13] <teja> duanedesign:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOjCoEre9rs&feature=related
[19:13] <teja> do chk dis video n temme how to configure dis plss....m dyin to have this
[19:14] <duanedesign> teja: the compizconfig-settings-manager is the easiest way to configure compiz
[19:14] <teja> n thnkx fr d previous as u said i updated alsa...no works cool
[19:14] <teja> yeah i have done many effects...n addons...but not the one in video..
[19:14] <aveilleux> teja: Please try to use proper English... you're more likely to get a response and it's so much easier to understand you
[19:17] <duanedesign> teja: if you install the Settings Manager the Cube is easy to set up
[19:17] <teja> duanedesign: yeah i do have cube...but when maximize brick effect?
[19:18] <hobgoblin> teja: if you mean the sort of exploding thing have a look in animaions in ccsm
[19:18] <hobgoblin> might be in there
[19:18] <teja> hogoblin: yeah i chekd
[19:19] <hobgoblin> well that is where it would be
[19:20] <hobgoblin> teja might need to install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra - search in synaptic then mark for install and apply
[19:20] <teja> hogoblin,did that too
[19:21] <hobgoblin> try #compiz
[19:22] <teja> k
[19:23] <duanedesign> compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[19:23] <duanedesign> d'oh
[19:24] <duanedesign> hobgoblin beat me to it. :)
[19:24] <hobgoblin> lol
[19:26] <teja> duanedesign:i tried i couldnt i guess betta to jus leave
[19:26] <teja> :P
[19:27] <duanedesign> teja: i installed the package
[19:27] <teja> duandesign: did u get the blinds effect??
[19:27] <duanedesign> teja: in CompizConfig-Settings-Manager it is under Animations
[19:28] <teja> duandesign:der r lot of options what to select
[19:28] <teja> ?
[19:30] <hobgoblin> teja: what does "der r" mean?
[19:30] <hobgoblin> use english
[19:30] <teja> sorry
[19:30] <teja> there are lot options
[19:30] <teja> m really sorry
[19:40] <teja> duandesign:yo.....cooolll i got d effects, thnk u very mch
[19:43] <duanedesign> teja: there are a lot of choices.
[19:43] <duanedesign> teja: i was just looking through them all
[19:44] <teja> duandesign:yeah mee to doin d sme... :d
[20:03] <hobgoblin> wb aveilleux
[20:08] <sebsebseb> Hi
[20:08] <hobgoblin> hi
[20:08] <sebsebseb> hobgoblin: hi
[20:10] <hobgoblin> sebsebseb: how you doing
[20:10] <sebsebseb> hobgoblin: ok
[20:10] <sebsebseb> you?
[20:11] <hobgoblin> yep - pretty good ty
[20:11] <hobgoblin> quiet at least :)
[20:11] <sebsebseb> hobgoblin: What is?
[20:13] <hobgoblin> life
[20:14] <harrison> anyone here good at file system recovery?
[20:15] <hobgoblin> you can try testdisk - but the best recover
[20:15] <hobgoblin> is probably good backups
[20:17] <harrison> already did and it's a corupted filesystem.
[20:18] <hobgoblin> no idea then
[20:56] <Phrea> can Evolution work with multiple mail boxes [that it has to import]
[20:57] <Phrea> ...on the same account, my mom devided her mail into several categories :\
[20:58] <Phrea> also, I'd love some live support on the conversion of OE files [as they are now] to mbx/mbox, using nothing but linux [I have no windows :\
[20:58] <Phrea> ]
[21:03] <aveilleux> Phrea: OE files? You mean Outlook Express?
[21:03] <Phrea> yes
[21:03] <aveilleux> Phrea: What file format are they>
[21:03] <aveilleux> ?*
[21:03] <Phrea> I am NOT planning on doing it now, but in the near future
[21:03] <Phrea> I forgot, what's the standard format it uses?
[21:04] <aveilleux> DBX
[21:04] <Phrea> I could only get them out of the directory, I could not export them
[21:04] <Phrea> dbx it is :)
[21:04] <aveilleux> Phrea: http://www.webdevelopersnotes.com/tips/internet/outlook_express_files.php
[21:05] <Phrea> I have never understood why OE is so different from Outlook itself :\
[21:06] <aveilleux> Phrea: Dunno, I've always stayed very, very far away from either program
[21:06] <Phrea> well, I have too, but sadly, my mother did not
[21:07] <hobgoblin> might be worth trying to import to thunderbird on the win machine and then import form tbird to evolution
[21:08] <Phrea> that's one of the options indeed
[21:08] <Phrea> hmmm, the stupid external drive where the files are on refuses to work now :x
[21:09] <Phrea> nice, it spins up, I can see it in disk utility, but I can't mount it
[21:09] <Phrea> oh linux, how I sometimes loathe you
[21:09] <aveilleux> Phrea: Have you tried mounting it from Terminal?
[21:10] <Phrea> no, I'm a user, so I try to stay away from the terminal as much as possible, since I don't konw what I'm doing there
[21:11] <Phrea> it's a VERY important disk, it holds ALL of my parents backups, so I'm very careful with it
[21:12] <Phrea> it connected fine the other day to my mothers machine, but now on my own machine, it won't mount
[21:12] <aveilleux> Phrea: How many hard disks are in the computer?
[21:13] <Phrea> 2 in this one, why?
[21:13] <aveilleux> Phrea: Actually, better yet. Open Terminal, type "cd /dev" without quotes and hit Enter
[21:13] <Phrea> the extrenal device is called /dev/sdc
[21:13] <aveilleux> Phrea: Ah, problem solved. What file system is it using?
[21:14] <Phrea> I'm not sure, but it's either NTFS or FAT32
[21:14] <Phrea> I did what you said
[21:14] <Phrea> it said now: /devS
[21:14] <Phrea> /dev$ even
[21:14] <aveilleux> Phrea: Well then. Type "sudo mkdir /media/external" (without quotes) and hit Enter
[21:14] <aveilleux> Phrea: You'll have to enter your password
[21:15] <Phrea> it did not ask for a password
[21:15] <aveilleux> Phrea: Oh really? Interesting. Anyway. Type "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /media/external"
[21:15] <Phrea> you know what, I'm disconnecting it, and I'll reconnect it to my moms laptop later tonight, I can NOT ef this disk up
[21:15] <aveilleux> Phrea: You won't.
[21:16] <aveilleux> Phrea: Just follow my directions. Nothing I'm saying can possibly damage the disk.
[21:16] <Phrea> ok sir, I'll start with the mkdir then, gimme a sec
[21:16] <aveilleux> Phrea: No need to mkdir again... the directory already exists :-P
[21:16] <Phrea> no no, I did nothing yet
[21:18] <Phrea> I'm sorry, I did something wrong, it sais [on the mount -t command] that it failed to access volume '/dev/sdc1' nu such file or directory
[21:19] <aveilleux> Phrea: You're still in /dev, correct? If so, type "ls sd*" and paste the output here
[21:19] <aveilleux> Phrea: Don't forget the asterisk ( * )
[21:19] <Phrea> I started over... :|
[21:20] <Phrea> sudo mkdir /media/external --> doing that now, starting over
[21:20] <Phrea> it doesnt do anything
[21:20] <Phrea> phrea@pb1:~$ sudo mkdir /media/external
[21:20] <Phrea> phrea@pb1:~$
[21:21] <aveilleux> Phrea: That means it worked
[21:21] <Phrea> oh, ok
[21:21] <Phrea> I'm sorry for being so stupid
[21:21] <aveilleux> phrea: type "cd /dev && ls sd* "
[21:21] <Phrea> what do I do now?
[21:21] <Phrea> k
[21:21] <aveilleux> Phrea: Paste the output
[21:22] <Phrea> sda  sda1  sda2  sda5  sda6  sdb  sdb1  sdb2  sdb3  sdc
[21:22] <Phrea> phrea@pb1:/dev$
[21:22] <Phrea> that's the output
[21:23] <aveilleux> Huh.... Just sdc? No sdc1?... Interesting. Try this: "sudo mount -t auto /dev/sdc /media/external"
[21:23] <Phrea> I thought about doing that, since it has no 1 or so
[21:23] <aveilleux> Phrea: It's very odd that there isn't an sdc1 listed
[21:24] <Phrea> phrea@pb1:/dev$ sudo mount -t auto /dev/sdc /media/external
[21:24] <Phrea> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[21:24] <aveilleux> phrea: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc /media/external
[21:24] <Phrea> I think it's FAT32
[21:25] <aveilleux> phrea: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc /media/external
[21:25] <Phrea> phrea@pb1:/dev$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc /media/external
[21:25] <Phrea> Failed to read bootsector (size=0)
[21:25] <Phrea> Failed to mount '/dev/sdc': Invalid argument
[21:25] <Phrea> The device '/dev/sdc' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[21:25] <Phrea> ok
[21:25] <Phrea> sorry for spamming so much
[21:25] <aveilleux> !pastebin |phrea
[21:25] <ubot2> phrea: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[21:25] <Phrea> phrea@pb1:/dev$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc /media/external
[21:25] <Phrea> mount: /dev/sdc: can't read superblock
[21:25] <Phrea> I know, bot, sorry
[21:26] <Phrea> aveilleux: it doesnt work :(
[21:26] <Phrea> I hope it's not dead...
[21:27] <aveilleux> Phrea: Hmm... It seems like the drive isn't able to be read in Linux... In all probability it could have gone bad. Try it on the other machine then report back. I really hope it didn't die :-(
[21:27] <Phrea> it worked fine in the laptop, and it's quite new
[21:28] <Phrea> now I'm scared to try it again... :x
[21:29] <aveilleux> Phrea: Try it on the laptop it works on. Back that up, then partition the drive with one big volume with the vfat file system
[21:29] <aveilleux> !partition |Phrea
[21:29] <ubot2> Phrea: For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap
[21:30] <Phrea> well, at least it's not dead, it works fine on the laptop
[21:31] <Phrea> aveilleux: it might actually be this pc that doesnt understand that drive :?
[21:31] <Phrea> I'll work on it using that computer
[21:31] <aveilleux> Phrea: I think that the drive has what's known as a "bad superblock"
[21:31] <Phrea> man, that scared me for a bit
[21:32] <Phrea> I know bad sectors, never heard of a bad superblock
[21:32] <aveilleux> Phrea: Windows can ignore bad superblocks, but the way Linux handles filesystems, Ubuntu can't ignore superblock errors
[21:32] <Phrea> well, it does on my mothers computer...
[21:32] <Phrea> which runs Lucid, just like this one [cept this one is 64bit, hers runs 32bit]
[21:33] <Phrea> first thing to do: forget about OE to Evolution for now, backup that drive ASAP !!
[21:34] <robs1> Good afternoon all
[21:34] <robs1> I have a question am hoping someone can help me with
[21:35] <aveilleux> robs1: Shoot
[21:35] <robs1> I can do a  "uname -a" and it returns
[21:35] <robs1> headnode 2: uname -a
[21:35] <robs1> Linux headnode 2.4.27 #1 SMP Mon Mar 21 15:15:05 CST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:35] <robs1> headnode 3:
[21:35] <Phrea> aveilleux: you might as well have saved me from a future crash of a backup disk
[21:35] <aveilleux> !pastebin |robs1
[21:35] <ubot2> robs1: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[21:35] <robs1> What I'm actually trying to find out is what OS is actually installed
[21:35] <robs1> like Ubuntu,  Red Hat
[21:36] <robs1> etc
[21:36] <robs1> I know its a debian distro
[21:36] <aveilleux> robs1: cat /etc/*-release in Terminal
[21:40] <robs1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/480115/
[21:40] <robs1> auveilleus....please see my paste above
[21:41] <aveilleux> robs1: Try just cat /etc/release
[21:42] <robs1> I did
[21:42] <robs1> and unfortunately does not seem to work
[21:43] <aveilleux> robs1: cat /etc/issue
[21:43] <robs1> I did  cat /etc/issue and it returned:   Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 \n \l
[21:44] <aveilleux> robs1: Let me get my Ubuntu laptop
[21:44] <Phrea> what were you on now then?
[21:45] <aveilleux> Phrea: Not Linux :-P
[21:45] <Phrea> oh no !
[21:45] <robs1> The reason I am asking to find out how to determine my OS type is because I am trying to google to find out which logs contain log information about recently installed software,  especially failed software attempts.  I suspect its somewhere in /var/logs but couldn't find anything
[21:46] <robs1> I mean to say "failed software installation attempts"
[21:46] <aveilleux> robs1: your system is Debian. cat /etc/issue is the right command
[21:46] <aveilleux> robs1: If you want kernel logs, try dmesg |tail
[21:46] <robs1> Will the kernel logs offer details about software installation attempts?
[21:47] <aveilleux> robs1: Sometimes yes, sometimes no. What are you using for the installation?
[21:48] <robs1> I am trying to install HP Dataprotector (DP) patches onto a DP client which is a debian client
[21:48] <aveilleux> robs1: What software is doing the installation?
[21:48] <robs1> HP Dataprotector is an enterprise level backup solution
[21:49] <robs1> Also is there some way I can keep from getting booted out of channel from a timeout ping?
[21:49] <aveilleux> robs1: If you pingout then it's a connection issue. Can't really help that
[21:50] <aveilleux> robs1: If you pingout then it's a connection issue. Can't really help that
[21:51] <robs1> HP Dataprotector is the software that is installing itself
[21:51] <robs1> ok thanks aveilleux
[21:52] <robs1> k
[21:52] <OpalMoon> can't get 10.04LTS installed on my laptop using standard desktop install - components crash (tz and disk in particular) - any suggestions?
[21:53] <aveilleux> robs1: So let me see if I understand... you downloaded a patch, and you ran the autoinstall script to try and apply it. The patch failed. Am I right?
[21:53] <aveilleux> OpalMoon: Have you tried the alternate install?
[21:53] <OpalMoon> was wondering of that would make a diff
[21:53] <OpalMoon> is that on the standard CD image or do I need to download the other image
[21:54] <aveilleux> OpalMoon: You need to download a different image
[21:54] <robs1> Negative.  I am installing an HP application (HP Dataprotector) using an HP unix command known as swinstall
[21:54] <OpalMoon> of course - why build it in? D'Oh!
[21:55] <robs1> swinstall is the HP unix command that installs the Dataprotector client (DP) software onto the linux client
[21:55] <aveilleux> robs1: I'm unfamiliar with that system, sorry
[22:57] <harrison> hobgolin still there?
[23:29] <isiah> Cannon to right of them,
[23:29] <isiah> Cannon to left of them,
[23:29] <isiah> Cannon in front of them
[23:29] <isiah> Volley'd and thunder'd;
[23:29] <isiah> Storm'd at with shot and shell,
[23:29] <isiah> Boldly they rode and well,
[23:29] <isiah> Into the jaws of Death,
[23:30] <isiah> Into the mouth of Hell
[23:30] <isiah> Rode the six hundred.
[23:30] <aveilleux> !offtopic |isiah
[23:30] <ubot2> isiah: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[23:32] <isiah> you will rue this day ubot2
[23:32] <isiah> !!!
[23:32] <aveilleux> I'm not sure ubot2 can rue
[23:32] <isiah> he will!!!!!
[23:32] <isiah> we shall all see some serious rueing action going on here
[23:33] <isiah> oh shall he rue!
[23:33] <aveilleux> !rue |unot2
[23:33] <ubot2> Factoid 'rue' not found
[23:33] <aveilleux> oops.
[23:33] <aveilleux> !rue |ubot2
[23:33] <aveilleux> Aw.
[23:33] <aveilleux> Guess not.
[23:33] <isiah> the greatest ruing of all time
[23:34] <isiah> many will flock to this room to see the epic rueing going on
[23:34] <isiah> as I get sweet revenge on ubot2
[23:34] <isiah> none that see the rueing will ever be the same.....
[23:35] <isiah> oh how he will rue!
[23:35] <isiah> cant you see him trembling there?
[23:35] <aveilleux> Robots don't tremble
[23:35] <isiah> awaiting the rueing to begin
[23:36] <isiah> they do if the revenge is sweet enough
[23:37] <isiah> and this revenge is the sweetest of all
[23:39] <cprofitt> hey isiah how is Buffalo?
[23:40] <isiah> decent, I am an engineer now so everything is better
[23:40] <isiah> the swat team closed a block down today
[23:41] <cprofitt> Have you be made aware that this is the BT -- support channel
[23:41] <nhandler> isiah: You might be interested in joining #ubuntu-beginners-team. This is a support channel
[23:41] <cprofitt> and #ubuntu-beginners-team is the OT channel?
[23:41] <isiah> so this is for asking for help?
[23:41] <cprofitt> and it would be nice to have you in #ubuntu-us-ny now isiah
[23:42] <isiah> i am there
[23:42] <cprofitt> yes asking for help and/or getting help
[23:42] <isiah> oh
[23:42] <isiah> well what is #ubuntu for then?
[23:42] <cprofitt> no problem isiah -- been a while since we have see you on so just wanted to make sure you knew the protocol;
[23:42] <cprofitt> #ubutnu is for asking question of the entire community
[23:43] <cprofitt> this is for asking for help from the Ubuntu Beginners Team
[23:43] <cprofitt> and the BT hangs out in #ubuntu-beginners-team
[23:43] <isiah> I am in a year-math only allowed to enter the irc once a year during aneathem
[23:43] <sebsebseb> isiah: yeah or anyone else that hangs out in here and does support sometimes
[23:45] <isiah> see now no one is talking
[23:46] <aveilleux> That's because thsi channel is for support, not general conversation.
[23:46] <isiah> i could use support
[23:46] <aveilleux> Do you have a specific question?
[23:46] <isiah> no just support in general
[23:46] <isiah> my cane sucks
[23:47] <aveilleux> !topic
[23:47] <ubot2> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic