=== slidinghorn is now known as [-slidinghorn-] === Narwhal is now known as IdleOne === [-slidinghorn-] is now known as slidinghorn === slidinghorn is now known as [-slidinghorn-] === [-slidinghorn-] is now known as slidinghorn [02:44] webcam question please: trying to figure out how to test to see if a webcam is working. Tried gstreamer-properties but got nowhere [02:47] error messages were the likes of this: [02:47] gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'Video for Linux 2 (v4l2)': Cannot identify device '/dev/video0'. [v4l2_calls.c(488): gst_v4l2_open (): /GstPipeline:pipeline1/GstV4l2Src:v4l2src1: [02:47] system error: No such file or directory] [02:47] gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'Video for Linux (v4l)': Device "/dev/video0" does not exist. [v4l_calls.c(168): gst_v4l_open (): /GstPipeline:pipeline2/GstV4lSrc:v4lsrc1] [02:47] gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'Video for Linux 2 (v4l2)': Cannot identify device '/dev/video0'. [v4l2_calls.c(488): gst_v4l2_open (): /GstPipeline:pipeline3/GstV4l2Src:v4l2src2: [02:47] system error: No such file or directory] [02:47] pastebin | loca [02:47] e [02:48] !pastebin |loca [02:48] loca: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [02:48] there we go. [02:48] thank you, will do [02:49] anyone have a suggestion on how to test a webcam? [03:02] loca: According to that error output, there is no recognized webcam device. [03:03] thanks aveilleux, that's what I was thinking. However, it's a new laptop with a webcam above the screen. Wondering if cam might be broken, or if there's a test I can do [03:04] or if I'm just missing a driver. (newbie to ubuntu) [03:04] !webcam |loca [03:04] loca: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras [03:04] Try that [03:04] thanks again, will do === p is now known as Guest35295 [11:01] hi my sound is not working after upgrade [13:30] hi, can someone assist me ... i have installed ubuntu 10.04 but when i plug in my huawei usb modem .,, i cant find how to dial up [14:14] outofhand still there? [14:15] guess not [14:15] Anyone here need help and is here? [14:17] harrison: thanks for helping out, I've seen your nick a lot lately [14:23] your welcome [14:24] I am half sick so I have very few things better to do. [14:24] might as well help someone === paultag_ is now known as crabbytag === crabbytag is now known as paultag [16:16] hello [16:18] how can i change the programs folder to another partition ??? [16:22] Guest5500: whats the problem [16:22] hi [16:23] im using ubuntu software center to download new stuff [16:24] when i install, nothing tells me, where i want it [16:25] Linux is not like windows there is no programs folder as such. Does the app turn up in the menu system? [16:25] yes [16:25] and it works [16:26] i want to install on another partition [16:27] i have 2 partitions [16:27] file system and storage [16:27] file system 9gb [16:27] storage 60gb [16:28] What do you want to do with the 9g partition [16:29] save space for ubuntu updates etc [16:29] other progs go to "storage" [16:30] but i cant [16:30] every time i install, goes to "file system" [16:31] How much space is left on the 9g partition. You can fine out with the command df -h [16:31] -h [16:31] just that [16:31] ok [16:31] df -h [16:31] 6.1G [16:32] Is that space left or used? [16:32] left [16:32] No worries then at all [16:32] how can i prevent that [16:33] Mine is exactly the same. There's nothing to prevent [16:33] ok [16:33] so there isnt a way to specify a programs folder [16:33] As long as you use your 60g for music vid files etc [16:33] like windows? [16:33] No [16:34] hehehe [16:34] another thing [16:34] Read these to to see how linux organise itself. http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102 http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html [16:34] why this new version 10 is kind of slow [16:35] Slow how [16:35] slow [16:35] if im copying something [16:35] Internet or using the desktop and apps [16:35] i cant listen to music [16:35] .Whats are the pc specs [16:36] im using a laptop pentium M 1.86ghz 512MB DDR2 80GB HDD [16:37] What does this command show free -m [16:37] 26 [16:37] hows that possible [16:38] You need to paste the output here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/ then paste the link back here [16:38] i only have 5 firefox tabs and vlc [16:38] playin music [16:39] linux uses memory completely diff from windows the important line is the +- buffers figures [16:40] i.e. much better [16:40] philinux: you saw that back and forth with me and that other fella, eh? [16:40] now what [16:40] philinux: linuxatemyram.com [16:40] free -m [16:40] total used free shared buffers cached [16:40] Mem: 487 461 26 0 3 230 [16:40] -/+ buffers/cache: 227 260 [16:40] Swap: 939 184 755 [16:40] Guest5500: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ [16:40] !pastebin | Guest5500 [16:40] Guest5500: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [16:40] Guest5500: looks just fine [16:40] yeah, you've got 260 megs free [16:40] paultag: no what back and forth [16:41] philinux: I had this conversation a few days ago in here [16:41] Guest5500: read through http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ [16:41] paultag: go on [16:41] philinux: nothing more :) [16:41] ok [16:41] Guest55 what does the command top show [16:42] why video playin is kind of slow [16:42] Guest5500: have you got integrated graphics? [16:42] yes [16:42] Disable compiz [16:43] Guest5500: sys>prefs>appearance>Visual effect > NONE [16:43] compiz? [16:43] where? vlc ? [16:43] paultag: can't recollect what happened [16:43] sys>prefs>appearance>Visual effect > NONE [16:44] done [16:44] let me test [16:45] philinux: I can pull logs if you really want, but it's long [16:45] plus [16:45] a strange thing happens [16:45] paultag: nah it's ok. [16:45] righto [16:45] if i dont specify the video output module [16:46] to opengl [16:46] paultag: I'll have a look myself. What date? [16:48] paultag: which user was it [16:49] philinux: not too long ago [16:49] philinux: and not sure [16:49] philinux: search for linode [16:50] soo any help [16:53] Guest5500: what it like with visual effects none [17:16] can anyone help me please [17:18] i have recently installed ubuntu 10.04 for a client, and it works well ... but the problem im having is when i plug in the huawei e220 ... into the usb port ... it allows me to setup a connection ... but when i wanna try connect by it ... it does not bring it up on the connection status [17:19] i plug the modem in ... and it see's it as a hard drive , also if i lsusb it shows that the e220 is connected [17:23] out-of-hand: install this usb-modeswitch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/446146 [17:23] Ubuntu bug 446146 in linux (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 2 other projects) "Several Huawei USB dongle don't work with kernel 2.6.31-12.40 (2.6.31.1 update related) (affects: 179) (dups: 16) (heat: 854)" [High,Fix committed] [17:23] ok let me check [17:23] thanks [17:48] nhandler: I'm having one hell of a time with a rules file [17:49] nhandler: any chance you have a minute? [17:49] paultag: Yeah, but if it is the fluxbox rules file, I might not be much help [17:50] nhandler: I've re-written it [17:50] nhandler: it's for a recipie [17:50] nhandler: http://pastebin.com/2Pj2kKbn <-- rules | http://pastebin.com/JW5NGG1Y <-- error [17:51] nhandler: I have no idea why it's doing this [17:51] nhandler: I'm beyond befuddled, my rules don't do anything [17:52] paultag: Out of curiosity, why haven't you switched to dh7 ? [17:52] nhandler: It was giving me the same error, so I figured I'd try it manually [17:53] nhandler: it's like my rules are not doing anything at all [17:54] paultag: Have a copy of the package? [17:55] nhandler: bzr branch lp:fluxbox bzr branch lp:lp:~fluxbox-maintainers/fluxbox/debian-dir [17:55] you might also need to bzr branch lp:~fluxbox-maintainers/fluxbox/debian-themes [17:55] as theme [17:56] nhandler: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~fluxbox-maintainers/+recipe/fluxbox-bloody [17:56] that might help more [17:57] That one fails patching data/keys. Did you try re-running with the patch disabled? [17:59] I thought I removed my patches [17:59] yeah I did [18:00] nhandler: no patches in latest. Those builds are old ( but the same problem ) [18:07] nhandler: ideas? [18:07] because it's pissing me the fuck off [18:09] paultag: Sorry, still working on it (multitasking) [18:09] np [18:29] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54 [18:41] paultag: Hi, is you an experty on dns lookups [18:41] philinux: not really, but I can try [18:41] philinux: what's usp [18:41] up [18:42] Had really slow net today sporadic. Firefox just sitting there. IRC ok and email ok [18:42] that's not dns [18:42] that's traffic over port 80 [18:42] philinux: try debugging it via telnet [18:42] philinux: you can see if it's browser side or if it's network side [18:42] Saw a suggestion to put 192.168.1.1 etc into auto dhcp and it worked [18:43] radical [18:44] It's only today been really bed. I hade open dns settings in there too [18:44] Why would 192.168.1.1 make a diff [18:44] if that's your router it might give you a better pointer to the dhcp server / route [18:44] ah [18:44] so if it's trying to do a route lookup and tries spamming and the router is slow, it could have issues [18:44] but I have no idea [18:45] Yep it's the router address [18:45] Anyway it worked [18:45] philinux: try `route`, and see if it's your gateway [18:45] err how to do that [18:45] philinux: open a terminal [18:45] philinux: type `route`, then hit enter [18:46] ok shall I paste bin that [18:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/480039/ [18:48] woh [18:48] wtf [18:49] what in the hell is SE587WLANdsl.ti [18:49] philinux: do you have a lan card? [18:49] in pc yep I reckon [18:49] ah, must be it [18:49] yeah looks normalish [18:49] normal enough, really [18:50] so 192.168.1.1 is router but what is 192.168.1.0? [18:51] IIRC that's its IP facing the modem [18:51] don't quote me [18:51] I hate networking [18:51] ok lol. Well I have to say browsing is much faster now [18:52] kewl [18:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg52OSGmg7g&feature=related [19:02] hie...i want to configure compiz config with some special effects like brick maximize can anyone help how to do it [19:12] hello teja [19:13] hey... [19:13] hru? [19:13] duanedesign:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOjCoEre9rs&feature=related [19:13] do chk dis video n temme how to configure dis plss....m dyin to have this [19:14] teja: the compizconfig-settings-manager is the easiest way to configure compiz [19:14] n thnkx fr d previous as u said i updated alsa...no works cool [19:14] yeah i have done many effects...n addons...but not the one in video.. [19:14] teja: Please try to use proper English... you're more likely to get a response and it's so much easier to understand you === steemed is now known as st33med [19:17] teja: if you install the Settings Manager the Cube is easy to set up [19:17] duanedesign: yeah i do have cube...but when maximize brick effect? [19:18] teja: if you mean the sort of exploding thing have a look in animaions in ccsm [19:18] might be in there [19:18] hogoblin: yeah i chekd [19:19] well that is where it would be [19:20] teja might need to install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra - search in synaptic then mark for install and apply [19:20] hogoblin,did that too [19:21] try #compiz [19:22] k [19:23] compiz-fusion-plugins-extra [19:23] d'oh [19:24] hobgoblin beat me to it. :) [19:24] lol [19:26] duanedesign:i tried i couldnt i guess betta to jus leave [19:26] :P === nuboon2age_ is now known as nUboon2Age [19:27] teja: i installed the package [19:27] duandesign: did u get the blinds effect?? [19:27] teja: in CompizConfig-Settings-Manager it is under Animations [19:28] duandesign:der r lot of options what to select [19:28] ? [19:30] teja: what does "der r" mean? [19:30] use english [19:30] sorry [19:30] there are lot options [19:30] m really sorry [19:40] duandesign:yo.....cooolll i got d effects, thnk u very mch [19:43] teja: there are a lot of choices. [19:43] teja: i was just looking through them all [19:44] duandesign:yeah mee to doin d sme... :d [20:03] wb aveilleux [20:08] Hi [20:08] hi [20:08] hobgoblin: hi [20:10] sebsebseb: how you doing [20:10] hobgoblin: ok [20:10] you? [20:11] yep - pretty good ty [20:11] quiet at least :) [20:11] hobgoblin: What is? [20:13] life [20:14] anyone here good at file system recovery? [20:15] you can try testdisk - but the best recover [20:15] is probably good backups [20:17] already did and it's a corupted filesystem. [20:18] no idea then === slidinghorn is now known as [-slidinghorn-] [20:56] can Evolution work with multiple mail boxes [that it has to import] [20:57] ...on the same account, my mom devided her mail into several categories :\ [20:58] also, I'd love some live support on the conversion of OE files [as they are now] to mbx/mbox, using nothing but linux [I have no windows :\ [20:58] ] [21:03] Phrea: OE files? You mean Outlook Express? [21:03] yes [21:03] Phrea: What file format are they> [21:03] ?* [21:03] I am NOT planning on doing it now, but in the near future [21:03] I forgot, what's the standard format it uses? [21:04] DBX [21:04] I could only get them out of the directory, I could not export them [21:04] dbx it is :) [21:04] Phrea: http://www.webdevelopersnotes.com/tips/internet/outlook_express_files.php [21:05] I have never understood why OE is so different from Outlook itself :\ [21:06] Phrea: Dunno, I've always stayed very, very far away from either program [21:06] well, I have too, but sadly, my mother did not [21:07] might be worth trying to import to thunderbird on the win machine and then import form tbird to evolution [21:08] that's one of the options indeed [21:08] hmmm, the stupid external drive where the files are on refuses to work now :x [21:09] nice, it spins up, I can see it in disk utility, but I can't mount it [21:09] oh linux, how I sometimes loathe you [21:09] Phrea: Have you tried mounting it from Terminal? [21:10] no, I'm a user, so I try to stay away from the terminal as much as possible, since I don't konw what I'm doing there [21:11] it's a VERY important disk, it holds ALL of my parents backups, so I'm very careful with it [21:12] it connected fine the other day to my mothers machine, but now on my own machine, it won't mount [21:12] Phrea: How many hard disks are in the computer? [21:13] 2 in this one, why? [21:13] Phrea: Actually, better yet. Open Terminal, type "cd /dev" without quotes and hit Enter [21:13] the extrenal device is called /dev/sdc [21:13] Phrea: Ah, problem solved. What file system is it using? [21:14] I'm not sure, but it's either NTFS or FAT32 [21:14] I did what you said [21:14] it said now: /devS [21:14] /dev$ even [21:14] Phrea: Well then. Type "sudo mkdir /media/external" (without quotes) and hit Enter [21:14] Phrea: You'll have to enter your password [21:15] it did not ask for a password [21:15] Phrea: Oh really? Interesting. Anyway. Type "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /media/external" [21:15] you know what, I'm disconnecting it, and I'll reconnect it to my moms laptop later tonight, I can NOT ef this disk up [21:15] Phrea: You won't. [21:16] Phrea: Just follow my directions. Nothing I'm saying can possibly damage the disk. [21:16] ok sir, I'll start with the mkdir then, gimme a sec [21:16] Phrea: No need to mkdir again... the directory already exists :-P [21:16] no no, I did nothing yet [21:18] I'm sorry, I did something wrong, it sais [on the mount -t command] that it failed to access volume '/dev/sdc1' nu such file or directory [21:19] Phrea: You're still in /dev, correct? If so, type "ls sd*" and paste the output here [21:19] Phrea: Don't forget the asterisk ( * ) [21:19] I started over... :| [21:20] sudo mkdir /media/external --> doing that now, starting over [21:20] it doesnt do anything [21:20] phrea@pb1:~$ sudo mkdir /media/external [21:20] phrea@pb1:~$ [21:21] Phrea: That means it worked [21:21] oh, ok [21:21] I'm sorry for being so stupid [21:21] phrea: type "cd /dev && ls sd* " [21:21] what do I do now? [21:21] k [21:21] Phrea: Paste the output [21:22] sda sda1 sda2 sda5 sda6 sdb sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 sdc [21:22] phrea@pb1:/dev$ [21:22] that's the output [21:23] Huh.... Just sdc? No sdc1?... Interesting. Try this: "sudo mount -t auto /dev/sdc /media/external" [21:23] I thought about doing that, since it has no 1 or so [21:23] Phrea: It's very odd that there isn't an sdc1 listed [21:24] phrea@pb1:/dev$ sudo mount -t auto /dev/sdc /media/external [21:24] mount: you must specify the filesystem type [21:24] phrea: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc /media/external [21:24] I think it's FAT32 [21:25] phrea: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc /media/external [21:25] phrea@pb1:/dev$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc /media/external [21:25] Failed to read bootsector (size=0) [21:25] Failed to mount '/dev/sdc': Invalid argument [21:25] The device '/dev/sdc' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS. [21:25] ok [21:25] sorry for spamming so much [21:25] !pastebin |phrea [21:25] phrea: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [21:25] phrea@pb1:/dev$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc /media/external [21:25] mount: /dev/sdc: can't read superblock [21:25] I know, bot, sorry [21:26] aveilleux: it doesnt work :( [21:26] I hope it's not dead... [21:27] Phrea: Hmm... It seems like the drive isn't able to be read in Linux... In all probability it could have gone bad. Try it on the other machine then report back. I really hope it didn't die :-( [21:27] it worked fine in the laptop, and it's quite new [21:28] now I'm scared to try it again... :x [21:29] Phrea: Try it on the laptop it works on. Back that up, then partition the drive with one big volume with the vfat file system [21:29] !partition |Phrea [21:29] Phrea: For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap [21:30] well, at least it's not dead, it works fine on the laptop [21:31] aveilleux: it might actually be this pc that doesnt understand that drive :? [21:31] I'll work on it using that computer [21:31] Phrea: I think that the drive has what's known as a "bad superblock" [21:31] man, that scared me for a bit [21:32] I know bad sectors, never heard of a bad superblock [21:32] Phrea: Windows can ignore bad superblocks, but the way Linux handles filesystems, Ubuntu can't ignore superblock errors [21:32] well, it does on my mothers computer... [21:32] which runs Lucid, just like this one [cept this one is 64bit, hers runs 32bit] [21:33] first thing to do: forget about OE to Evolution for now, backup that drive ASAP !! [21:34] Good afternoon all [21:34] I have a question am hoping someone can help me with [21:35] robs1: Shoot [21:35] I can do a "uname -a" and it returns === starcraft is now known as starcraftman [21:35] headnode 2: uname -a [21:35] Linux headnode 2.4.27 #1 SMP Mon Mar 21 15:15:05 CST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux [21:35] headnode 3: [21:35] aveilleux: you might as well have saved me from a future crash of a backup disk [21:35] !pastebin |robs1 [21:35] robs1: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [21:35] What I'm actually trying to find out is what OS is actually installed [21:35] like Ubuntu, Red Hat [21:36] etc === bgs101 is now known as bgs100 [21:36] I know its a debian distro [21:36] robs1: cat /etc/*-release in Terminal [21:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/480115/ [21:40] auveilleus....please see my paste above [21:41] robs1: Try just cat /etc/release [21:42] I did [21:42] and unfortunately does not seem to work [21:43] robs1: cat /etc/issue [21:43] I did cat /etc/issue and it returned: Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 \n \l [21:44] robs1: Let me get my Ubuntu laptop [21:44] what were you on now then? [21:45] Phrea: Not Linux :-P [21:45] oh no ! [21:45] The reason I am asking to find out how to determine my OS type is because I am trying to google to find out which logs contain log information about recently installed software, especially failed software attempts. I suspect its somewhere in /var/logs but couldn't find anything [21:46] I mean to say "failed software installation attempts" [21:46] robs1: your system is Debian. cat /etc/issue is the right command [21:46] robs1: If you want kernel logs, try dmesg |tail [21:46] Will the kernel logs offer details about software installation attempts? [21:47] robs1: Sometimes yes, sometimes no. What are you using for the installation? [21:48] I am trying to install HP Dataprotector (DP) patches onto a DP client which is a debian client [21:48] robs1: What software is doing the installation? [21:48] HP Dataprotector is an enterprise level backup solution [21:49] Also is there some way I can keep from getting booted out of channel from a timeout ping? [21:49] robs1: If you pingout then it's a connection issue. Can't really help that [21:50] robs1: If you pingout then it's a connection issue. Can't really help that [21:51] HP Dataprotector is the software that is installing itself [21:51] ok thanks aveilleux [21:52] k [21:52] can't get 10.04LTS installed on my laptop using standard desktop install - components crash (tz and disk in particular) - any suggestions? [21:53] robs1: So let me see if I understand... you downloaded a patch, and you ran the autoinstall script to try and apply it. The patch failed. Am I right? [21:53] OpalMoon: Have you tried the alternate install? [21:53] was wondering of that would make a diff [21:53] is that on the standard CD image or do I need to download the other image [21:54] OpalMoon: You need to download a different image [21:54] Negative. I am installing an HP application (HP Dataprotector) using an HP unix command known as swinstall [21:54] of course - why build it in? D'Oh! [21:55] swinstall is the HP unix command that installs the Dataprotector client (DP) software onto the linux client [21:55] robs1: I'm unfamiliar with that system, sorry [22:57] hobgolin still there? [23:29] Cannon to right of them, [23:29] Cannon to left of them, [23:29] Cannon in front of them [23:29] Volley'd and thunder'd; [23:29] Storm'd at with shot and shell, [23:29] Boldly they rode and well, [23:29] Into the jaws of Death, [23:30] Into the mouth of Hell [23:30] Rode the six hundred. [23:30] !offtopic |isiah [23:30] isiah: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [23:32] you will rue this day ubot2 [23:32] !!! [23:32] I'm not sure ubot2 can rue [23:32] he will!!!!! [23:32] we shall all see some serious rueing action going on here [23:33] oh shall he rue! [23:33] !rue |unot2 [23:33] Factoid 'rue' not found [23:33] oops. [23:33] !rue |ubot2 [23:33] Aw. [23:33] Guess not. [23:33] the greatest ruing of all time [23:34] many will flock to this room to see the epic rueing going on [23:34] as I get sweet revenge on ubot2 [23:34] none that see the rueing will ever be the same..... [23:35] oh how he will rue! [23:35] cant you see him trembling there? [23:35] Robots don't tremble [23:35] awaiting the rueing to begin [23:36] they do if the revenge is sweet enough [23:37] and this revenge is the sweetest of all [23:39] hey isiah how is Buffalo? [23:40] decent, I am an engineer now so everything is better [23:40] the swat team closed a block down today [23:41] Have you be made aware that this is the BT -- support channel [23:41] isiah: You might be interested in joining #ubuntu-beginners-team. This is a support channel [23:41] and #ubuntu-beginners-team is the OT channel? [23:41] so this is for asking for help? [23:41] and it would be nice to have you in #ubuntu-us-ny now isiah [23:42] i am there [23:42] yes asking for help and/or getting help [23:42] oh [23:42] well what is #ubuntu for then? [23:42] no problem isiah -- been a while since we have see you on so just wanted to make sure you knew the protocol; [23:42] #ubutnu is for asking question of the entire community [23:43] this is for asking for help from the Ubuntu Beginners Team [23:43] and the BT hangs out in #ubuntu-beginners-team [23:43] I am in a year-math only allowed to enter the irc once a year during aneathem [23:43] isiah: yeah or anyone else that hangs out in here and does support sometimes [23:45] see now no one is talking [23:46] That's because thsi channel is for support, not general conversation. [23:46] i could use support [23:46] Do you have a specific question? [23:46] no just support in general [23:46] my cane sucks [23:47] !topic [23:47] Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic