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| sshaw | if anyone has a second to answer a packaging question... I'm trying to package something that has a gconf schema file. On openSUSE and Fedora, there are some macros in the spec file to add that schema. I was wondering what the Ubuntu way of doing this was? (Still fairly new to Ubuntu or deb packaging) | 00:29 |
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| chrisccoulson | sshaw, we have dh_gconf to handle gconf schemas | 00:32 |
| chrisccoulson | how you call that depends on how you're packaging your application | 00:32 |
| sshaw | chrisccoulson: this particular package is at-spi2-atk | 00:33 |
| sshaw | I think its just one key to determine whether to use at-spi or at-spi2 | 00:33 |
| chrisccoulson | eg, if you're using CDBS, including /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/gnome.mk will add the right hooks for you automatically | 00:33 |
| sshaw | its not cdbs | 00:33 |
| chrisccoulson | i have a case of deja-vu here, i'm sure somebody has asked me about at-spi2-atk before :/ | 00:34 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps i'm just going crazy though ;) | 00:34 |
| sshaw | chrisccoulson: I'm can't remember if I have asked before or not | 00:34 |
| chrisccoulson | i think you have ;) | 00:34 |
| chrisccoulson | you might want to take a look at other gnome apps | 00:34 |
| sshaw | wow, my memory just sucks :) | 00:34 |
| sshaw | I'd assume gedit would be a good example? | 00:36 |
| devildante | vish: ping | 00:37 |
| chrisccoulson | sshaw, possibly, although i don't know what packaging system at-spi2-atk is using | 00:39 |
| sshaw | chrisccoulson: how can I tell? | 00:40 |
| sshaw | I'm pretty sure its not cdbs | 00:40 |
| sshaw | I can tell you how I packaged it | 00:40 |
| sshaw | actually, as I'm looking at it it looks like it already handles the keys | 00:43 |
| sshaw | can't believe I missed that | 00:43 |
| sshaw | my brain is fried | 00:43 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 00:44 |
| sshaw | I think one of the other guys put that in without me knowing it | 00:44 |
| sshaw | luckily these packages will eventually be part of the distro and I won't have to worry about them anymore :) | 00:45 |
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| devildante | vish: ping pang pong | 01:21 |
| devildante | dammit, vish :p | 01:46 |
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell hey dude | 02:45 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3_, hey | 02:47 |
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell, so ... any change you could spend some more time looking at that cheese bug? | 02:49 |
| rickspencer3_ | it's been driving me a bit crazy thinking about it having it in maverick ... and somehow you seem like the guy who can crack it | 02:50 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3_, I'm going to have a look at it today. (yesterday was frantically updating gnome) | 02:50 |
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell, cool man, thanks | 02:50 |
| rickspencer3_ | let me know if you need anyone to send you any hardware or anything like that | 02:51 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3_ ok, will do. Did you add any comments about the hw you have? | 02:52 |
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell, no | 02:53 |
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell, what info would help? | 02:54 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3_, yes please, so we can compare the behaviour on our hw and see if it's hw specific | 02:54 |
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell, right, so I'm looking for the model # of my webcam | 02:55 |
| rickspencer3_ | meh, robert_ancell I just realized I'm at a different computer, atm | 02:55 |
| rickspencer3_ | I'll track it down when I get back to my desk | 02:55 |
| rickspencer3_ | urk, these gstreamer pipelines remind me of writing old school sql queries | 03:12 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3_, heh :) | 03:15 |
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| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell, so I'm trying to capture video output on Lucid at 30fps ... | 04:05 |
| rickspencer3_ | gstreamer seems to not be keeping up | 04:05 |
| rickspencer3_ | so ... I'm not surprised to see regressions in cheese, I wonder if it's it a bit hard to make this work | 04:06 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3_, yeah, there seems to be a lot of performance issues in gst | 04:08 |
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell, hmm, when I use avimux it works just fine | 04:10 |
| rickspencer3_ | so maybe something about theora? | 04:10 |
| TheMuso | rickspencer3_: How much CPU usage when you are capturing? | 04:15 |
| rickspencer3_ | TheMuso, I'm on my lucid netbook atm | 04:16 |
| rickspencer3_ | so, it's probably at best tangentially related to the maverick cheese bug | 04:16 |
| rickspencer3_ | but you ask a good question | 04:16 |
| TheMuso | ok | 04:16 |
| * rickspencer3_ tests | 04:16 | |
| rickspencer3_ | recording and displaying with avimux = 16% of one core | 04:17 |
| rickspencer3_ | with oggmux it's 97% of one core | 04:18 |
| rickspencer3_ | oops, robert_ancell TheMuso cheese can't record on my Lucid netbook either! | 04:20 |
| rickspencer3_ | I never thought to test it, but it's got 100% of one of my cores | 04:20 |
| TheMuso | rickspencer3_: Were you using the same codec for avimux and oggmux? | 04:20 |
| rickspencer3_ | uh, I don't know | 04:21 |
| rickspencer3_ | I'm just fidling with gstreamer pipelines | 04:21 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3_: it's more that just theora because you can encode using videotestsrc | 04:21 |
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell, I'm a bit weirded out that I'm seeing this on Lucid, I thought it was a maverick issue | 04:22 |
| rickspencer3_ | TheMuso, here's what I know ... this works: | 04:23 |
| rickspencer3_ | queue ! avimux ! filesink location=boo.avi | 04:23 |
| rickspencer3_ | this pins the CPU: | 04:23 |
| rickspencer3_ | theoraenc ! queue ! oggmux ! filesink location=boo.ogg | 04:23 |
| rickspencer3_ | nice, meanwhile desktopcouch comes along and takes up 50% of each core | 04:26 |
| robert_ancell | If you run with GST_DEBUG=v4l*:5,theora*:5,GST_QOS:5, it shows there are about 2 frames per second being generated. But playing back the video doesn't show this. It's like the video is corrupted (it doesn't play smoothly in totem) | 04:27 |
| robert_ancell | Does anyone know of a tool to dump information about a video file? e.g. number of frames | 04:29 |
| RAOF | From what I remember, the ffmpeg commandline tool wasn't terrible. | 04:30 |
| RAOF | But might not give all the info you want. | 04:30 |
| RAOF | If videotestsrc works but v4l2src doesn't, maybe it's an interaction between timestamps and oggmux? | 04:31 |
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell, I think mencoder has like every function you could want | 04:31 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, does this sound interesting: 0:00:16.537149013 9190 0x22e7470 DEBUG theoraenc gsttheoraenc.c:823:theora_enc_is_discontinuous:<theoraenc0> Incoming TS 0:00:16.244409842 exceeds expected value 0:00:16.024553226 by too much, marking discontinuity | 04:34 |
| RAOF | Possibly - that looks like the incoming frame is arriving ~.2 sec later than the encoder is expecting. | 04:37 |
| RAOF | That said, why is the encoder looking at the timestamps anyway? I obviously don't know enough about theoraenc. | 04:37 |
| robert_ancell | hmm, I run "ffmpeg -i test.ogg -r 1 -s WxH -f image2 test-%03d.jpeg" and I get "incorrect frame size" | 04:37 |
| robert_ancell | oh, no I needed to replace WxH | 04:38 |
| RAOF | :) | 04:38 |
| rickspencer3_ | heh | 04:39 |
| robert_ancell | Interesting - that shows 13 correct frames - so the video data is there, totem just isn't able to play it | 04:39 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3_: can you confirm if you get the same? | 04:39 |
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell, sorry, I wasn't paying attention, can you tell me exactly what you want me to repro? | 04:40 |
| * rickspencer3_ keeps playing with his new webcam app | 04:40 | |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3_, encode an ogg from you v4l2src, confirm it doesn't play back properly in totem, then run "ffmpeg -i test.ogg -f image2 test-%03d.jpeg" and see if it does have valid video frames inside it | 04:40 |
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell, what does "doesn't play back properly" entail? | 04:42 |
| robert_ancell | oh, you don't even need the "-f image2" | 04:42 |
| robert_ancell | in my case, I see one or a few frames in the output ogg, but ffmpeg shows it does have all the frames | 04:42 |
| robert_ancell | I'll reproduce with cheese | 04:42 |
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell, cheese is just flat unusable on this machine | 04:43 |
| rickspencer3_ | (well for capturing video anyway) | 04:44 |
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell, it didn't seem to report an error, but I the resulting jpegs are garbage in eog | 04:46 |
| robert_ancell | weird | 04:47 |
| rickspencer3_ | robert_ancell, well, I am on lucid here | 04:48 |
| rickspencer3_ | shall I run upstairs and try on my maverick desktop? | 04:48 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3_, worth a try | 04:49 |
| robert_ancell | I heard v4l had a reputation for being broken, it may have improved since lucid | 04:50 |
| TheMuso | What about using a different codec... | 04:50 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, what encoders do we have in Ubuntu that you can use? | 04:56 |
| robert_ancell | I was looking but theora sounded like the only available one | 04:57 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: ffmpeg via the gstreamer ffmpeg package. No idea about how to use it ina pipeline I'm affraid. | 04:59 |
| rickspencer3 | robert_ancell, I'm at my desktop again | 05:00 |
| TheMuso | Encode to mpeg or something similar | 05:00 |
| RAOF | There's a hundred and one ffenc_* options available. | 05:00 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: heh | 05:00 |
| RAOF | xvidenc might be a winer | 05:00 |
| RAOF | Or even a winner. | 05:00 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: separate gstreamer plugin? | 05:01 |
| rickspencer3 | I*sigh* | 05:02 |
| rickspencer3 | robert_ancell, cheese just worked perfectly for me | 05:02 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3, *sigh* | 05:03 |
| rickspencer3 | hmmm | 05:03 |
| robert_ancell | If I run cheese on the lowest resolution the output video seems to stabilise after 10s. Not sure if this is expected behaviour for a video codec | 05:04 |
| rickspencer3 | hmm, I did just do a dist-upgrade | 05:04 |
| rickspencer3 | robert_ancell, I give up! | 05:06 |
| * rickspencer3 thirsts for beer | 05:06 | |
| rickspencer3 | actually, I wonder if my webcam app will work on this computer with theora? | 05:06 |
| robert_ancell | oh, someone updated cheese... | 05:07 |
| rickspencer3 | lol | 05:07 |
| rickspencer3 | don't tell me this was fixed upstream and we just spent all this time debugging it :/ | 05:08 |
| rickspencer3 | lol | 05:08 |
| rickspencer3 | fml | 05:08 |
| rickspencer3 | robert_ancell, I'm seeing the same issue with oggmux in my gstreamer pipeline on maverick as well (that I was seeing on my lucid netbook) | 05:11 |
| robert_ancell | the performance still seems bad, very hard to tell if it's as bad as it was on lucid. It's a little unpredictable | 05:12 |
| robert_ancell | The NEWS file doesn't suggest anything major has changed | 05:12 |
| rickspencer3 | hmmm | 05:12 |
| rickspencer3 | well, I really need to roll | 05:13 |
| rickspencer3 | sorry I can't "help" more :/ | 05:13 |
| robert_ancell | go forth and drink beer! | 05:13 |
| rickspencer3 | :) | 05:13 |
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| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| and471 | sabdfl, I think I can see why you chose natty. Look at the definition on this page http://www.thefreedictionary.com/natty - "Neat, trim, and smart; **dapper**." | 07:23 |
| and471 | XD | 07:23 |
| nigelb | and471: you missed jaunty :p | 07:27 |
| and471 | :) | 07:28 |
| and471 | kenvandine, just read you post on libgwibber - looks interesting :) | 07:35 |
| and471 | kenvandine, does this mean we should replace the call to 'gwibber-poster' in software-center | 07:35 |
| and471 | kenvandine, and replace it with something like in your python example? | 07:36 |
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| sabdfl | and471: just keepin' it real :-) | 08:30 |
| and471 | sabdfl, :) | 08:30 |
| vish | and471: we need to take away sabdfl's thesaurus ;) | 08:31 |
| nigelb | vish: or remove certain entries from it. | 08:31 |
| and471 | hehe | 08:32 |
| vish | and471: he is having too much fun with it, while we keep guessing what he is gonna name it next.. *or* now that we have found a pattern, we can guess it easier next time :p | 08:33 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, hey, can you check my update for evince? I think I've got all the library stuff right this time. Not sure if both shlibs variables should be updated though | 08:54 |
| seb128 | hey robert_ancell | 08:54 |
| seb128 | I was just reading your email | 08:54 |
| seb128 | soname is age-revision usually | 08:54 |
| seb128 | hum, not awake yet | 08:56 |
| seb128 | current - age rather | 08:56 |
| seb128 | ie the first and the third number in the 1:2:3 | 08:57 |
| seb128 | ie 5:0:1 -> 5-1 == 6:0:2 -> 6-2 | 08:57 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, the rule is, only update if you see n:0:0 right? | 08:57 |
| seb128 | the soname changes on abi breakage, ie when the age is set to 0 | 08:58 |
| seb128 | the rule is "match the installed filename on the disk" | 08:58 |
| seb128 | it's easier than trying to read the configure.ac logic ;-) | 08:58 |
| seb128 | but yeah usually when the third number (ie the age) is set to 0 that's an abi break | 08:58 |
| seb128 | that's when the soname changes | 08:59 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, but a library can make a change 4:0:0 -> 5:0:1 and we don't update right? | 08:59 |
| seb128 | no | 08:59 |
| seb128 | there is compatibility breakage in such cases | 08:59 |
| seb128 | I should clean and publish my script which diff installed packages and deb | 08:59 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, but we do change binary package name? | 08:59 |
| seb128 | no | 09:00 |
| seb128 | we change when the soname changes | 09:00 |
| seb128 | is change "lib<name>.so.<n>" changes "n" | 09:00 |
| seb128 | ie when "lib<name>.so.<n>" changes "n" | 09:00 |
| seb128 | the binary is named libname<n> | 09:00 |
| robert_ancell | ok, so the safest thing to do is a dpkg -L on the currently installed version and a dpkg -c on the new version and see what changed? | 09:01 |
| seb128 | usually what we want is to have abi incompatible versions to be stay around for a while to allow easy transitions | 09:01 |
| seb128 | right | 09:01 |
| seb128 | I should really publish my script | 09:01 |
| seb128 | it basically does that for all the deb in the dir you are | 09:01 |
| seb128 | and diff the lists | 09:01 |
| seb128 | and shows the diff | 09:01 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/debnbfiles | 09:03 |
| seb128 | very hackish but if you want to try on your recent build | 09:03 |
| seb128 | just run it in the dir with the debs | 09:03 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, otherwise you didn't reply to my question about the polkit gettext change in the email | 09:04 |
| seb128 | do you think you will have time or interest for this one? | 09:04 |
| seb128 | what about shotwell and f-spot import on first run? | 09:04 |
| seb128 | brb, grabbing coffee | 09:05 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, bug #619632 | 09:05 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 619632 in policykit-1 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Use gettext for translating user messages (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619632 | 09:05 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, you rock as usual ;-) | 09:05 |
| seb128 | thanks | 09:05 |
| seb128 | did you merge the new gtk from debian today? | 09:06 |
| seb128 | just checking if you didn't do it for a reason since I see no upload | 09:06 |
| seb128 | brb | 09:06 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, no, I was going to ask you if you knew of any problems with the new gtk - since it has dropped so much api I didn't want us to require two versions on the cd. I thought they were going to make those changes in 3.0! | 09:11 |
| robert_ancell | I notice that Debian has taken it though | 09:11 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, they didn't drop apis | 09:11 |
| seb128 | they are marking those deprecated only I think | 09:11 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I didn't build evince yet but I think your update missed the libevview soname change | 09:12 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, according to the GTK+ email it says "Remove all GDK drawing functions, ie gdk_draw_*. Use cairo instead" etc | 09:13 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?h=gtk-2-22&id=92055d8d328a7adaa05f3c6ac6d1c496819940ec | 09:14 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, that's those sort of changes | 09:14 |
| seb128 | they are changing gtk to use cairo rather than gdk_draw_ calls | 09:14 |
| seb128 | I doubt they dropped any public api that would break the abi which is what gtk3 is for | 09:15 |
| robert_ancell | oh, that sounds safer :) | 09:18 |
| seb128 | I will do the update and see how it goes today | 09:19 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, did you read my libevview comment? | 09:19 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, yes, do you mean the gir1.0- package or something else? | 09:20 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, libevview2 -> libevview3 | 09:20 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, yeah, did that (I pushed to the u-d branch as UNRELEASED) | 09:20 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, no, you renamed libevdocument | 09:21 |
| robert_ancell | damn | 09:21 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, both need renaming | 09:21 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, try http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/debnbfiles | 09:22 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, if you didn't install the new version yet | 09:22 |
| robert_ancell | trying it now | 09:22 |
| robert_ancell | ok, pushed changes now | 09:23 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, seems correct now | 09:24 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, btw lintian should warn you about names not matchin sonames as well | 09:25 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, if you have it installed | 09:25 |
| robert_ancell | right | 09:25 |
| seb128 | so it's usually a hint to think about when you see it ;-) | 09:25 |
| robert_ancell | does it remind you if you forget to update the shlibs variable though? | 09:26 |
| seb128 | no | 09:26 |
| seb128 | but we should stop using shlibs | 09:27 |
| seb128 | we should use .symbols rather | 09:27 |
| robert_ancell | right | 09:27 |
| robert_ancell | hmm, I didn't have lintian installed since I replaced my hdd - no wonder I'm not seeing any warnings! | 09:34 |
| seb128 | heh | 09:34 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, have you tried the latest simple-scan? I made it do the 2 bit scan for text, see how it looks | 09:42 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, so shotwell | 09:47 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-shotwell | 09:47 |
| seb128 | doh | 09:48 |
| seb128 | he left ;-) | 09:48 |
| ronoc | bl8: ping | 10:05 |
| devildante | kiwinote, mpt, vish: hi :) | 10:33 |
| kiwinote | devildante: hey | 10:33 |
| mpt | Good morning devildante | 10:33 |
| devildante | Good morning you two :) | 10:34 |
| * devildante wants mvo back :p | 10:34 | |
| vish | devildante: hey! | 10:34 |
| devildante | hey vish :) | 10:34 |
| vish | devildante: you ping-a-linged at 5am for me ;p | 10:35 |
| devildante | vish: it was, like 1am for me, so you're forgiven :p | 10:35 |
| devildante | vish: I have finished the renaming of update-manager | 10:36 |
| vish | mpt: ^ :) | 10:36 |
| vish | devildante: now we wait for mvo to return.. | 10:37 |
| and471 | devildante, mpt, I have started on the treeview that shows the updates http://imgur.com/EvTCF | 10:38 |
| kiwinote | devildante: you do realise that there is a large number of packages depending on 'update-manager', 'update-notifier', etc..? | 10:38 |
| mpt | hi and471. Are you doing this interface from scratch, or is it changes to the existing update-manager code? | 10:39 |
| devildante | vish, mpt: I'll redo the update-notifier renaming tomorrow, as I want to finish a little project for tomorrow ;) | 10:39 |
| and471 | mpt, well I decided it best to do it from scratch since software-updater is VERy different from UpdateManager | 10:39 |
| devildante | all right, and471, you're the best! | 10:39 |
| and471 | mpt, I can definitely bring some stuff over from update-manager | 10:39 |
| and471 | mpt, to minimise duplication of effort | 10:39 |
| and471 | mpt, however I feel even the backend will be from scratch | 10:40 |
| devildante | kiwinote: Replaces and Conflicts would be enough, I think | 10:40 |
| vish | kiwinote: yeah devildante was wondeirng about that, probably we should only do renaming of the UI alone for now and think about the gconf changes for next cycle? | 10:40 |
| mpt | and471, maybe so, but there are probably many intricate details of update-manager that I don't know about yet, and it seems dangerous to me to try and rewrite them all. | 10:40 |
| and471 | mpt, as I suspect mvo will want to use aptdaemon+plicykit instead of gksudo | 10:40 |
| mpt | and471, update-manager in Maverick already uses aptdaemon+policykit, right? | 10:40 |
| and471 | mpt, I don't know | 10:41 |
| kiwinote | yep, parts of it do | 10:41 |
| and471 | kiwinote, ah | 10:41 |
| and471 | mpt, I shall have a look, but because the interface is very different, I feel as though form scratch is better | 10:41 |
| and471 | *from | 10:41 |
| mpt | and471, I tried to write the spec so that it could be implemented a little bit at a time (as devildante did with the running-on-battery text, for example). | 10:42 |
| devildante | and471: I could work on the treeview alone for update-manager without starting from scratch | 10:42 |
| devildante | (if you want of course ;) ) | 10:42 |
| and471 | mpt, devildante it is just the way software-updater will work with morphing windows means the UI framework is vastly different | 10:43 |
| kiwinote | and471: there are a few things hidden in the update-manager code (afaik) like partial updates, dist-upgrades etc | 10:43 |
| and471 | kiwinote, yup I was thinking about these :) | 10:43 |
| kiwinote | and471: as far as I am aware they have some quite complex code ;) | 10:43 |
| and471 | becuase of these vast differences I felt it was better to start from scratch as otherwise I would end up with quite horrible code | 10:43 |
| and471 | kiwinote, definitely, but I am just starting with the GUI stuff, I am not confident with aptdaemon etc. | 10:44 |
| and471 | kiwinote, mpt, devildante, let me quickly have a look at the UM code | 10:44 |
| kiwinote | yeah, for the 'normal' updates I think it does make sense to rewrite | 10:44 |
| kiwinote | should also check it out myself ;) | 10:45 |
| and471 | (btw if anyone wants to see the code, it is in lp:~and471/+junk/software-updater) | 10:45 |
| devildante | and471: does it really make sense to rewrite? as far as I know, only UpdateManager.py and the backends have GUI, so you could only rewrite these | 10:46 |
| mpt | I'm not an engineer, so I'll defer to mvo on this. Maybe I'm biased against rewrites because I lived through the Mozilla rewrite | 10:46 |
| and471 | devildante, mpt, I will email mvo for his advice | 10:46 |
| and471 | devildante, sorry I don't understand | 10:46 |
| and471 | don't worry I haven't progressed so far that I can't go back and update existing code :) | 10:47 |
| and471 | (into UM) | 10:47 |
| mpt | ok | 10:47 |
| and471 | but I shall slow down to avoid any 'oops I've done this the wrong way and waisted all that time' :) | 10:47 |
| kiwinote | just for the record that was only the front end rewrite I was referring, the backend is quite complex as it is.. | 10:47 |
| and471 | kiwinote, yeah | 10:48 |
| devildante | and471: I meant that only 2 files uses Pygtk+: UpdateManager.py (the main file) and InstallBackendAptDaemon.py (the backend), so you could only modify these ;) | 10:48 |
| and471 | kiwinote, I agree, | 10:48 |
| and471 | devildante, yes but I think rewriting those files | 10:48 |
| and471 | devildante, is better than | 10:48 |
| and471 | devildante, going through code that follows an old workflow and trying to make it fit with our new one | 10:49 |
| and471 | anyway let me have a look | 10:49 |
| and471 | ok | 10:50 |
| and471 | I think I shall wait to mvo's much hyped return :) | 10:51 |
| and471 | hopefully he will know what to do | 10:51 |
| and471 | to > until | 10:51 |
| and471 | mpt, I have even wrote gui_tests for the software-updater (the stuff nessita taught me) :) | 10:52 |
| mpt | bravo | 10:52 |
| and471 | hehe | 10:52 |
| and471 | devildante, < I could work on the treeview alone for update-manager> could I ask that we both wait till mvo's return | 10:53 |
| and471 | devildante, so we avoid duplication fo effort | 10:53 |
| and471 | *of | 10:53 |
| and471 | ? | 10:53 |
| devildante | and471: okay, no problem ;) | 10:53 |
| and471 | devildante, thanks | 10:53 |
| devildante | and471: np :) | 10:53 |
| seb128 | asac, hello | 10:53 |
| seb128 | asac, you need your clutter changes in maverick right? | 10:54 |
| seb128 | asac, just checking | 10:54 |
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| asac | seb128: yes, we upstramed everything and i think pochu wanted to apply this in debian next | 10:56 |
| asac | stay tuned for another day or two ... hope we can just sync by then | 10:56 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:56 |
| seb128 | we should get that in this week | 10:56 |
| asac | ok. then we might need to prepush that | 10:56 |
| seb128 | we are over the time for changes, we should aim at stabilization ;-) | 10:56 |
| asac | seb128: our changes shouldnt destabilize the normal GL stack ;) ... but yeah | 10:57 |
| seb128 | shouldn't != will not ;-) | 10:57 |
| asac | thats news to me ;) ... j.k | 10:57 |
| seb128 | is the email you sent the other day current state of the art for those? | 10:57 |
| seb128 | I will check with pochu when if he reviewed it and try to get that in tomorrow | 10:58 |
| asac | seb128: alf is fixing one more bug now ... we will ping you when its ready | 10:58 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:58 |
| asac | alf__: ^^ | 10:58 |
| seb128 | if you could rebase on the current version that would be nice as well | 10:58 |
| seb128 | ie do one changelog entry with summarize the changes | 10:58 |
| seb128 | rather than having history of the version you maintained mixed in the changelog | 10:59 |
| alf__ | seb128: This has been mostly fixed in 0ubuntu4unified2 in my ppa | 11:03 |
| alf__ | seb128: I will soon upload 0ubuntu4unified3, I will ping you. Thanks! | 11:04 |
| seb128 | alf__, thank you | 11:04 |
| and471 | dpm, hi, is bug 560591 related to SC, to me it looks like the reporter's language is set to English | 11:11 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 560591 in software-center (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Wrong language shown in Ubuntu Software Center (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/560591 | 11:11 |
| dpm | hi and471, let me have a look | 11:12 |
| and471 | dpm, thanks | 11:12 |
| and471 | mpt, are you working on bug 433841? | 11:15 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 433841 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Enable users to upload a screenshot (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/433841 | 11:15 |
| dpm | and471, ok, done some quick tests and commented on the bug | 11:21 |
| mpt | and471, no, it's assigned to me so I can design the interface. Do you have a suggestion? | 11:22 |
| asac | seb128: gnome-terminal doesnt do the right thing for me anymore for alt + backspace (e.g. doesnt delete full words) | 11:24 |
| asac | seems alt key isnt used at all (e.g. alt+d doesnt delete full word, alt+a doesnt go to front etc.) | 11:25 |
| asac | err alt+a never did that ;) | 11:25 |
| asac | still alt key is broken ... /me checks gnome-terminal settings | 11:25 |
| seb128 | asac, I don't know about this issue but I'm not the one who did the recent update and I didn't upgrade yet | 11:26 |
| asac | ok | 11:26 |
| asac | but seems there was a gnome-terminal update | 11:27 |
| asac | filed bug | 11:28 |
| asac | bug 619754 | 11:29 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 619754 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "alt + backspace; alt+d etc. don't work anymore (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619754 | 11:29 |
| and471 | dpm, thanks | 11:30 |
| and471 | mpt, I was going to have a go at designing it and implementing it | 11:31 |
| and471 | mpt, I was thinking along the same lines as the review dialog, but obviously a bit different | 11:31 |
| mpt | and471, sure, maybe you could post sketches of the design on a wiki sub-page | 11:33 |
| and471 | mpt, ok, i''l have a go :) | 11:33 |
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| * and471 wonders why wiki.ubuntu.com is so slow... | 11:58 | |
| and471 | mpt, added it to the end of this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter/Comments | 11:58 |
| mpt | and471, what do you think are the best and worst things about that design? | 12:03 |
| devildante | any python-webkit experienced guys here? | 12:25 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, please merge https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/maverick/tomboy/fix-sso-signals/+merge/32982 | 12:33 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, heh you didn't do the version update! ;-) | 12:33 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, hey btw | 12:33 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, who is working on the ubuntuone-client nautilus integration btw? | 12:33 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, did you notice it's broken since the nautilus 2.31 update? | 12:34 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, there is no bar displayed, not that I complain but I think it's not wanted | 12:34 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, no, coming in the next branch | 12:34 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, I am working on it | 12:34 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, we only show it now for XDG folders | 12:35 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, does it show for you in ~/Documents? | 12:35 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, yes, excellent | 12:36 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, I was afraid I broke it with the update | 12:36 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, so the context menu show,hide option doesn't work on non-xdg dirs | 12:36 |
| rodrigo_ | no, it doesn't, since it never shows it | 12:37 |
| rodrigo_ | we need to discuss what's the best way, so will get some bug fixes | 12:37 |
| seb128 | ok | 12:39 |
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| kenvandine | good morning folks | 12:53 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i'll be a little late today, heading in for a parent-teacher conference in a few minutes | 12:54 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey, ok | 12:54 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, btw read the 15 lines backlog before you said hello | 12:54 |
| kenvandine | ah! | 12:55 |
| kenvandine | that is very good :) | 12:55 |
| * kenvandine heads out | 12:56 | |
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| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| * pitti headdesks on bug 612988; c'mon guys | 13:50 | |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 612988 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "[nautilus] shows ubuntu-one ribbon in each folder (affects: 7) (dups: 2) (heat: 48)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612988 | 13:50 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 13:53 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 | 13:53 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 13:54 | |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti! | 13:55 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson, how are you? | 13:56 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i'm good thanks, and you? | 13:56 |
| pitti | I'm great | 13:56 |
| pitti | back in Dresden again | 13:56 |
| pitti | nice quiet train ride with lots of time for hacking | 13:56 |
| chrisccoulson | nice! | 13:57 |
| pitti | ah, maverick langpacks finished building | 13:59 |
| pitti | dpm: ^ I started it this morning | 14:00 |
| pitti | dpm: building locally in the DC, that is (not uploaded yet, want to give them a quick test first) | 14:00 |
| dpm | pitti, you've been reading my mind, I was just about to ping you about them :) Thanks for the update | 14:01 |
| pitti | dpm: not quite -- you pinged me over night :) | 14:02 |
| dpm | hahaha, forgot about the scrollback | 14:02 |
| pitti | yay, finally! translated evolution again | 14:09 |
| pitti | firefox and desktop look fine | 14:09 |
| dpm | \o/ | 14:09 |
| pitti | dpm: ok, looks good; pushing them archivewards | 14:10 |
| dpm | brilliant, thanks pitti | 14:10 |
| pitti | no problem | 14:11 |
| dpm | pitti, after the full language pack is generated, i take it the deltas will keep being generated and automatically uploaded during development, won't they? (apart from freezes, where I know they need to be disabled IIRC) | 14:41 |
| pitti | dpm: I need to reenable the cronjob for that, but yes | 14:42 |
| pitti | dpm: btw, I flipped the base version on the LP page | 14:42 |
| pitti | Here I mean: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+language-packs | 14:42 |
| dpm | pitti, ah, right, thanks. I think Arne was purposefully not updating that (I think he said to avoid manual overhead), does that have any funtion, apart from informative? | 14:44 |
| dpm | function, I meant | 14:44 |
| seb128 | james_w, there to help me on a bzr merge-upstream issue? | 14:46 |
| james_w | yes | 14:46 |
| seb128 | james_w, so I'm using lp:ubuntu/indicator-sound | 14:46 |
| seb128 | bzr get lp:ubuntu/indicator-sound | 14:47 |
| pitti | oh, no didrocks today? | 14:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, he's on holidays 2 weeks | 14:47 |
| seb128 | james_w, http://edge.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/sound-menu-v2/0.4.0/+download/indicator-sound-0.4.0.tar.gz | 14:47 |
| seb128 | $ bzr merge-upstream --version 0.4.0 ../indicator-sound-0.4.0.tar.gz lp:indicator-sound | 14:47 |
| seb128 | Using distribution maverick | 14:47 |
| seb128 | bzr: ERROR: An inconsistent delta was supplied involving u'/vapi', 'vapi-20100621103135-gycdn15933l3irmh-1' | 14:47 |
| seb128 | reason: Attempt to add item at path already occupied by id 'vapi-20100624175500-xymgx3h309uhcz83-12' | 14:47 |
| seb128 | 14:47 | |
| seb128 | james_w, ^ I get that error | 14:48 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, thanks | 14:48 |
| seb128 | james_w, do you know any way to get around it? | 14:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you need anything? I might be able to help | 14:48 |
| pitti | seb128: just filed bug 619858 about the problem | 14:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 619858 in openoffice.org-l10n (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "starts pulling OpenJDK into CDs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619858 | 14:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, he stepped up to do the version update but he's not going to be maintainer for it so I guess don't wait for him to be back | 14:51 |
| pitti | seb128: ok; just thought it might be quicker for him than for anyone else, but nevermind; filed as an RC bug for now | 14:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 14:51 |
| seb128 | I guess doko knows about it, he pinged me to ask if didrocks as around as well some minutes ago | 14:52 |
| james_w | seb128: no idea, please file a bug | 14:53 |
| seb128 | james_w, ok thanks | 14:53 |
| james_w | seb128: if you run with "-Derror" then you will get a full traceback, I might be able to guess a workaround from there. | 14:53 |
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| seb128 | james_w, which component should be bugged? | 14:59 |
| james_w | seb128: bzr-builddeb for now, I'l reassign if needed | 15:00 |
| seb128 | james_w, ok, just finishing those uploads first I want those changes to land now then I will open a bug, thanks | 15:01 |
| james_w | thank you! | 15:01 |
| rickspencer3 | pedro_, is evolution crashing for everyone in maverick, or just for me? | 15:04 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, it's just you | 15:05 |
| rickspencer3 | dang it | 15:05 |
| pedro_ | rickspencer3, probably just you, haven't seen any new crash coming today | 15:05 |
| seb128 | well maybe pedro has noticed bugs | 15:05 |
| seb128 | but we don't get crash bugs atm | 15:05 |
| pedro_ | rickspencer3, it's working fine here btw | 15:05 |
| rickspencer3 | I trust it's not because I'm the only one still using it :P | 15:05 |
| pedro_ | lol | 15:05 |
| seb128 | retracers are out of order for some time | 15:05 |
| seb128 | which means filled bugs don't go through | 15:06 |
| chrisccoulson | "crashing", or "crashing more than usual"? ;) | 15:06 |
| pedro_ | but still there's no pending crashes to be retraced | 15:06 |
| rickspencer3 | chrisccoulson, crashing a whole lot more than usual | 15:06 |
| seb128 | pedro_, how do you know? | 15:06 |
| rickspencer3 | pedro_, yeah, I'm not getting apport for some reason | 15:06 |
| pedro_ | seb128, well those are marked as need-X-retrace, no? | 15:06 |
| seb128 | pedro_, you don't have access to crashes the retracers didn't work on it | 15:06 |
| seb128 | pedro_, you wouldn't see those | 15:06 |
| pedro_ | for evolution i mean | 15:06 |
| seb128 | they are visible only for the retracers | 15:06 |
| pedro_ | seb128, so those aren't filed in lp yet? | 15:07 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, is that while reading email or composing? | 15:07 |
| seb128 | pedro_, they are but they are private and bug teams are not subscribed | 15:07 |
| rickspencer3 | forwarding or replying causes crashes | 15:07 |
| rickspencer3 | a lot | 15:07 |
| seb128 | pedro_, virtually only the retracers have access | 15:07 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, right, I get that as well | 15:08 |
| rickspencer3 | I'm running from the command line to see if it tells me what happened | 15:08 |
| pedro_ | seb128, ok | 15:08 |
| seb128 | pedro_, do you think somebody in the qa team could to maintain the retracers? | 15:08 |
| pedro_ | seb128, perhaps bdmurray but he's doing a rotation atm | 15:09 |
| gzerphey | hello all... i have installed ubuntu desktop 10.04LTS and I am having a wireless disconnect problem under load. Is there any thoughts on how I might fix this? | 15:09 |
| gzerphey | i have tried generic-pae backports. the fix used to be jaunty backports but that doesnt seem to be an option anymore | 15:09 |
| pedro_ | seb128, but we could talk to him to start doing that for next cycle | 15:09 |
| gzerphey | any help would be appreciated | 15:10 |
| seb128 | pedro_, would be nice | 15:10 |
| pedro_ | noted | 15:10 |
| seb128 | gzerphey, hi, wrong channel, we talk about GNOME there basically | 15:10 |
| seb128 | gzerphey, try #ubuntu | 15:10 |
| gzerphey | i did | 15:10 |
| seb128 | pedro_, thanks | 15:10 |
| gzerphey | no response | 15:10 |
| gzerphey | any other thoughts | 15:10 |
| pedro_ | gzerphey, you're probably not going to get a better response here, just be patient there's plenty of people at #ubuntu doing support | 15:11 |
| pedro_ | gzerphey, you can ask in the forums as well, but as seb128 said this isn't a support channel, sorry | 15:11 |
| gzerphey | i can appreciate that | 15:12 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, pedro_, I just repro'd the evo crash | 15:13 |
| rickspencer3 | it's a core dump | 15:13 |
| rickspencer3 | what's the best way for me to use this to log a bug? | 15:13 |
| rickspencer3 | if I do ubuntu-bug evolution will it pick it up? | 15:13 |
| pedro_ | rickspencer3, could you run evolution under gdb to get that backtrace? | 15:15 |
| pedro_ | rickspencer3, and do a 'set logging on evolution-crash.txt' | 15:15 |
| rickspencer3 | k | 15:15 |
| pedro_ | rickspencer3, reproduce the crash and 'thread apply all bt full' | 15:15 |
| pedro_ | rickspencer3, then 'set logging off' or just quit gdb | 15:16 |
| rickspencer3 | ok | 15:16 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks pedro_, I'll get to that later today | 15:16 |
| pedro_ | it will save the backtrace at that evolution-crash.txt which you can be attached to the report you file with ubuntu-bug evolution | 15:16 |
| pedro_ | you're welcome | 15:16 |
| kenvandine | brb, installing maverick on my new intel SSD :) | 15:17 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, awesome post on libgwibber! | 15:40 |
| rickspencer3 | what a great a contribution | 15:40 |
| rickspencer3 | ara I also love your post on "Love an Upstream Project?" http://ubuntutesting.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/love-an-upstream-project-want-it-well-tested/ | 15:41 |
| rickspencer3 | nice work there | 15:42 |
| ara | rickspencer3, thanks | 15:42 |
| kenvandine | thx rickspencer3 | 16:08 |
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| kenvandine | and471, saw your comment about libgwibber, yes you could use that in software-center | 16:16 |
| kenvandine | ideally not spaw a new window but just embed it | 16:16 |
| and471 | kenvandine, ah thanks :) | 16:16 |
| and471 | kenvandine, you mean like just in the right pane? | 16:16 |
| kenvandine | then just expand it if someone clicks on it or something | 16:16 |
| kenvandine | instead of a popup | 16:17 |
| kenvandine | imho | 16:17 |
| and471 | k | 16:17 |
| and471 | I will let mpt think about it :) | 16:17 |
| kenvandine | also, you can connect to the is_available signal to decide to even show it | 16:17 |
| and471 | kenvandine, cool :) | 16:17 |
| kenvandine | so if someone doesn't use gwibber, they don't even see it | 16:17 |
| kenvandine | :) | 16:17 |
| and471 | mpt, did you get a chance to look at the screenshot submit mockup? | 16:18 |
| repete | seb128, do you know if UNE 10.04 will detect whether XGLX drivers are present so it can fall back to the 2D interface if needed? | 16:21 |
| seb128 | repete, it will not autofallback | 16:25 |
| seb128 | didrocks has a workitem on https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-m-lightweight-panel-for-efl though | 16:25 |
| seb128 | "[didrocks] Add a detection mechanism for HW support to unity and pop up an error message that allows to go back to gdm" | 16:25 |
| repete | seb128, thx | 16:47 |
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| bl8 | ronoc: pong | 17:05 |
| seb128 | tedg, should the libindicator patch be dropped in favor of your recent commit? | 17:06 |
| seb128 | tedg, it breaks the sound menu icon | 17:06 |
| tedg | seb128, Hmm, that's an odd result. | 17:08 |
| ronoc | bl8: hey | 17:10 |
| kenvandine | sigh... desktopcouch fails to replicate to my new install | 17:10 |
| ronoc | so how is the implementation doing bl8 | 17:10 |
| tedg | seb128, The sound icon works for me... | 17:10 |
| * kenvandine files bug | 17:10 | |
| seb128 | tedg, the rhythmbox icon is a broken icon there | 17:11 |
| seb128 | tedg, in the menu | 17:11 |
| bl8 | ronoc: Haven't done much yet, been away this week-end, then sick... But I have printed out the spec ;) | 17:11 |
| ronoc | bl8: cool, well when you have something you want to test just let me know. | 17:11 |
| ronoc | bl8, the 0.4.X versions of the indicator-sound will mpris2 ready | 17:12 |
| bl8 | ronoc: yep, will do. When are those 0.4.x expected ? | 17:12 |
| tedg | seb128, I'm not sure what you're referring to. I dont' have any broken icons... the app indicator for rhythmbox? | 17:12 |
| seb128 | tedg, no, the indicator-sound v2 menu, next to the "rhythmbox" label the icon is broken | 17:13 |
| seb128 | tedg, I'm using the light theme if that makes a difference | 17:13 |
| seb128 | tedg, could be due to something else | 17:13 |
| ronoc | 0.4.0 just went out today, which has everything in it except scrubbing, rb was segfaulting on scrub so I would imagine in the morning i will release 0.4.1 which will have this enabled again | 17:14 |
| seb128 | tedg, in any case should we drop kamstrup change and get your commit? does that fix the unity issue they were having? | 17:14 |
| tedg | seb128, yes I think we should. I'm not sure what the indicator-sound issue is -- I'm curious if I have an older version than you? | 17:14 |
| bl8 | ronoc: Cool, thanks ! | 17:15 |
| ronoc | bl8: also I only realized this morning that they dropped the useful playlist stuff from the spec | 17:15 |
| tedg | seb128, I proposed a merge for kenvandine | 17:15 |
| seb128 | ok, so it's handled, less to do for me, nice | 17:15 |
| kenvandine | :) | 17:15 |
| ronoc | bl8, talking with mirsal and alex right now to get a new interface speced which covers the basic playlist stuff I need | 17:15 |
| ronoc | so the tracklist interface is redundant from my point of view | 17:16 |
| bl8 | ronoc: Yeah, I'm not sure it's possible to come up with a tracklist thing that makes everybody happy, so you might as well start from your use case | 17:18 |
| ronoc | bl8: yeah looks like there will be new interface org.mpris.MediaPlayer2.playlist | 17:19 |
| kenvandine | tedg, you proposed the wrong branch again | 17:21 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Uhg, sorry. | 17:21 |
| kenvandine | no wrries | 17:22 |
| kenvandine | i know the right branch | 17:22 |
| ronoc | which will allow querying number of playlists, organizing by creation date, last played date or alphabetically, and fetching x number from a to b, and making a particular playlist active | 17:23 |
| ronoc | bl8 ^ | 17:23 |
| ronoc | thats it really | 17:23 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Fixed | 17:24 |
| bl8 | ronoc: Sounds reasonable, I'll try to have a look at it after I'm done with what's in the spec. No promises though | 17:25 |
| ronoc | grand | 17:25 |
| kenvandine | wow this ssd is fast! | 17:36 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine: are you still seeing problems with facebook account addition with gwibber? | 17:36 |
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| vish | seb128: is this a bug in adduser or ..? Bug #619532 | 20:54 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 619532 in adduser (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Password discountinuity (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619532 | 20:54 |
| * vish cant find upstream for adduser.. | 20:54 | |
| seb128 | dunno | 20:54 |
| vish | seb128: the prompt arises when we change the password from : user and groups | 20:55 |
| vish | oh! ok..nvm then :) | 20:55 |
| seb128 | dunno I don't work on those softwares | 20:56 |
| seb128 | I've no real knowledge about that stack | 20:56 |
| vish | seb128: np.. thanks :) | 20:56 |
| johanbr | vish, http://alioth.debian.org/projects/adduser/ | 20:59 |
| vish | johanbr: ah , thanks :) | 20:59 |
| devildante | guys, does someone know some tips to focus on coding? :p | 22:06 |
| chrisccoulson | devildante, that's a bit of an open-ended question ;) | 22:15 |
| chrisccoulson | can you think of anything specific you'd like to do? | 22:16 |
| devildante | chrisccoulson: I'm going to code a gtk frontend for hugday-tools | 22:16 |
| devildante | chrisccoulson: but I can't concentrate :p | 22:16 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, perhaps i misunderstood your question | 22:17 |
| chrisccoulson | in that case, there is only 1 correct answer: | 22:17 |
| chrisccoulson | COFFEE! | 22:17 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 22:17 |
| devildante | I hate coffee :p and it's definitely not a lack of sleep | 22:17 |
| chrisccoulson | trust me, it solves all of lifes problems | 22:18 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 22:18 |
| devildante | never, ever gonna drink coffee :p btw, the disconnect from network thingie won't work, hugday is interfacing with the wiki ;) | 22:19 |
| === bjf is now known as bjf[afk] | ||
| seb128 | pitti, dunno if that's the recent update you did but g-p-m seems to be crashing a lot recently | 22:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you think you could do the 2.31.90 update tomorrow and maybe see if you the crash is due to some recent change? | 22:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, (no hurry I'm just letting that in the backlog while I think about it) | 22:43 |
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