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UnknownmindBuenas07:22
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cjwatsonhello16:03
cjwatsonrobbiew: around?16:03
robbiewaye16:03
robbiewmeeting time...but we have very few16:04
robbiewev and mvo on vacation16:04
* barry is here16:04
robbiewKeybuk on holiday16:04
robbiewwell...on I have no internet holiday16:04
robbiewcjwatson: perhaps we should skip16:07
robbiewsince we only have a handful of folks16:07
cjwatsonthat leaves doko and surbhi16:08
cjwatsonyeah, if nobody has anything I'm happy to skip16:08
* cjwatson is reviewing the merge queue from surbhi :)16:08
* ScottK is curious if doko plans to merge python-defaults/python3-defaults, but that doesn't need a meeting.16:09
dokohi16:15
dokoScottK: you did tell me, that you did want to merge. so I didn't16:15
ScottKdoko: OK.  I forgot about that.16:16
ScottKI'll do it.16:16
dokothanks16:16
robbiewheh16:18
dokoso any other business?16:20
dokoI'd like to schedule test rebuilds of the archive, but would like to choose a time when kde and gnome stacks are all built16:20
* barry reminds ScottK about two package reviews16:21
dokoplus having a general freeze exception for pyton3-* packages would be useful (these don't touch the CD's)16:21
ScottKRight.16:21
ScottKdoko: I think LP rebuilds take too long to have any surety that KDE/Gnome would be built when any particular package got built.16:22
dokoScottK: that is not my question16:23
dokoI just need a time/date for a snapshot16:23
ScottKOh.  Right.16:24
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leiniahm17:58
leiniwhats that here now?17:58
ghostcubemeeting channel :)17:59
leininice i like meeting18:00
leiniand its english too?18:00
ghostcubeyes18:00
leiniwow.. seems as if i joined the right chan finally18:00
ghostcubedepends on what youve been looking for :D18:00
leininothing in special18:01
leinibut everywhere i went before they where either french or in a technicalsupportwhateverthing18:01
leiniso i'm just happy that this is for meeting and english18:01
ghostcubeok a rule brake.. aber du kannst gerne udo joinen ubuntu-de-offtopic18:01
ghostcubeals östereicher o.o18:02
leiniösterreicherin18:02
ghostcubeok back to english18:02
ghostcubesorry18:02
leinimensch muss jeder auf die IP glotzen? geht das nicht ohne?18:02
ghostcubeich guck nur aufs land18:02
ghostcubecause so you can directly send someone to the language support he needs18:02
leiniand why is everybody either french or german?18:02
ghostcubemaybe we should take this talk out of the official meeting channel18:03
ghostcubenot sure if this is wanted18:03
leiniwhy not?18:03
ghostcubeits logged and only used for shedueled meetings of the ubuntu teams18:03
leinii am not in a ubuntu team and i don't even know what ubuntu is18:04
leinii know it's zulu18:04
ghostcubewhy are you joining ubuntu linux channel if not :D18:05
leiniso you wanna tell me that i'm not right in here again?18:05
leinii got lost.18:05
ghostcubegehste mal in ubuntu-de-offtopic bitte18:05
ghostcubedanke18:05
leinida kann ich auch gleich ganz wo anders hin18:05
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highvoltageHowdy! Who's here for the Edubuntu meeting?20:00
highvoltageAgenda is up on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Meetings/Agenda20:01
highvoltageAnything we should add?20:01
highvoltagehere is the release schedule, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule20:02
highvoltagewe're one month away from beta. then everything should be more or less working with minor bugs left to fix only20:02
highvoltagecurrently we're more or less ok with feature freeze. the ubiquity enhancements is currently a bit behind schedule, and not yet in a working state20:03
highvoltagebut if it misses this release entirely, it won't be a major issue20:03
highvoltageI discovered this wallpaper last week via OMG!Ubuntu! http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/wallpapers/periodic-table.jpg20:04
highvoltageI thought it was quite nice but the license was cc-by-nc, which we can't include in Ubuntu20:05
dindait is nice though20:05
highvoltageso I contacted the author and he immediately changed the licensing for us, so it will be one of the included wallpapers in maverick!20:05
dindasweet!20:06
highvoltageI'm also going to contact some of the artists who created these wallpapers: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/wallpapers/20:06
highvoltageall of them are already released undera a free license, but has some issues, so maybe I can do some convincing since it's for edubuntu20:07
alkisgWoo, nice wallpapers20:07
highvoltagethe first two that starts with CURRENTLY_NONFREE are also cc-by-nc20:07
highvoltagehttp://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/wallpapers/snailrace.jpg is released under an artistic license20:07
highvoltagethat means we can't remove the VLADSTUDIO text but we are allowed to distrubute it20:08
dindais CC-By  the only license we can use?20:08
highvoltagemaybe I could get them to either remove the text or just change the license. maybe somewhat of a long shot but I decided to give it a shot anyway20:08
alkisgMost of the vlad studio text will be covered by the bottom panel anyway :P20:09
highvoltagedinda: we can use any free license, which includes but is not limited to: cc-by, gpl, gfdl, bsd and public domain20:09
highvoltagealkisg: hehe, yes20:09
highvoltagedinda: for people who use cc-by-nc, it's often easy enought to convince them to just drop the -nc20:10
* mhall119 is here20:10
dindaok, makes sense, thanks20:10
highvoltagethe periodic table wallpaper is already in the wallpaper chooser since today20:11
highvoltageI'll add the GPL/CC-BY ones tomorrow and then the rest as they become available20:11
highvoltageI plan to split the wallpapers out into a -wallpapers package, since our artwork package is already quite big and it's a lot to update for what's usually just a few text changes in the file20:12
highvoltageI also uploaded Gnome Nanny last week20:12
highvoltagesome more information on Gnome Nanny here: http://www.tectonic.co.za/2010/06/gnome-nanny/20:12
highvoltagestgraber added it to the seeds so it's included in the current edubuntu builds20:13
highvoltageI'll try to get the gnome-nanny-data package uploaded too, it includes lists of sites and stuff that kids shouldn't be able to visit20:14
mhall119is gnome nanny Gnome dependent, or just GDM dependent?20:14
highvoltagemhall119: not sure. it uses gconf for some stuff so it's certainly somewhat gnome dependent20:15
alkisghighvoltage: so gnome-nanny is in the maverick repositories? /me can't find it...20:15
mhall119ok20:15
highvoltagemhall119: talking of which, mgariepy (hrm I should get him to join these meetings) showed me some cool stuff he does with gconf paths with the desktop-profiles package, from what I've seen it might be possible to fix the qimo-gnome-desktop dillemma with that20:16
highvoltagealkisg: package name is just 'nanny'20:16
mhall119highvoltage: I think that's what I've been learning about on my own, so getting some guidance from someone who knows the "right way" would be fantastic20:17
alkisghighvoltage: cool, thanks!20:17
alkisg(nanny wasn't on packages.ubuntu.com yet but it's there)20:17
highvoltagealkisg: ah yes, maverick is currently broken on packages.ubuntu.com :(20:18
alkisgAh20:18
highvoltagebug I'm going to work on this week still includ: bug 619888, 614045, 588890, 613797, and 61516220:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 619888 in edubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "Split edubuntu-wallpapers from edubuntu-artwork" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61988820:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 614045 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Acire" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61404520:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 588890 in edubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Old artwork used in "About Edubuntu" page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58889020:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 613797 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Edubuntu Maverick Alpha 3 installation went much slower than usual" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61379720:19
highvoltageubottu: thanks20:19
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)20:19
highvoltageanyone else have any bugs or technical work to mention before we move on?20:19
dindawhat's the status of the edubuntu-docs?  is that just updating the artwork?20:20
highvoltagegood question, we should actually have a section for docs for each meeting20:20
highvoltageit will certainly need some updating but personally I haven't had any time to make any plans for it20:20
dindayes, always a tough task to find people to update docs20:21
highvoltagedgroos started this so that we can put together a basic selection of instructions and tips for Edubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/BasicSetup20:22
dindaanything considered critical for maverick other than artwork?20:22
highvoltageso that would be quite useful. the built-in help system (yelp) in edubuntu would still need some further update though20:22
highvoltageI don't think we have anything strictly marked critical at this stage. if I don't finish the ltsp and desktop integration plugins for ubiquity, we'd have a regression from lucid since we at least had some crude working version of that in there20:24
highvoltageso I guess that's #1 on my todo list20:24
highvoltageand that's probably going to take most of my edubuntu time over the next 2 weeks20:24
dinda:)20:24
highvoltagewe should perhaps try to get the ubuntu-doc team involved a bit more20:25
dindahighvoltage: there are always new people coming offering to help with docs but most cannot get through the download this branch from Bzr and then use docbook to edit stage20:26
dindaminor patching stuff is fine and even better if they can just edit wiki pages20:26
highvoltagedinda: *nod* imho if someone just even wants to write a blog entry or put their documentation into an MS Word document that's fine with me20:27
dindame too20:27
highvoltagegetting it wiki-ized or up on a webpage is something lots of us can do :)20:27
dindahighvoltage: quick question o the wiki since it's come up. . .20:28
dindais the edubuntu wiki site completely separate from the main ubuntu wiki site?20:28
highvoltageand someone in the ubuntu-doc team can then convert it into other formats from there20:28
highvoltagedinda: that question comes up often. the edubuntu wiki and the ubuntu wiki is in fact the exact same wiki, with different skins20:28
dindaok, good20:29
highvoltagedinda: this confuses many users, and even search engines20:29
highvoltageso with the last release cycle we actually decided to drop the edubuntu theme, and just use the ubuntu wiki (redirecting links from the edubuntu.org domain)20:30
highvoltagethe same with the kubuntu wiki too.20:30
dindamakes sense as most folks will start on the ubuntu wiki and search there20:30
highvoltageI need to still create an RT ticket about that...20:31
highvoltageah! and more good news, canonical IS fixed the last permissions I needed on the webserver this morning20:32
highvoltageI said before that I actually bought a new theme for the site20:32
highvoltagewe've had lots of tries on redesigns but people either lost the momentum or enthusiasm to complete it20:33
highvoltageso I'm just going to adapt an existing great theme to our use20:33
mhall119highvoltage: what platform does the website use?20:33
highvoltage(I'll get a screenshot so long)20:33
highvoltagemhall119: drupal20:33
mhall119highvoltage: there is currently work on a Drupal theme to match the new ubuntu.com theme20:34
mhall119it'll be based on the ubuntu-website project20:34
mhall119just like the one we use for loco.ubuntu.com20:35
highvoltagemhall119: when I'm done with our site, it's going to look better than the ubuntu.com site ;)20:35
mhall119even better20:35
mhall119just wanted to put that knowledge out there20:35
highvoltagehere's a sreenshot of the vanilla theme: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/website/mynx-theme.jpg20:36
highvoltageand here's a link to a live demo, although you might have to choose the specific variation in the variation chooser: http://demo.rockettheme.com/drupal/?theme=mynxx20:36
mhall119shiny20:36
highvoltagewhat I like about that theme is, it's very functional, but also very basic, so it's easy to customize20:37
highvoltageit will probably not be very recognisable as that theme when I'm done with it, but I think it can work as a very good base for the edubuntu site20:37
highvoltageah, if you choose the light-orange variation form the variation chooser, it will look like the one in the screenshot20:38
alkisgNice, it feel light... (/me hates heavy webpages like launchpad :D)20:38
highvoltagedinda mentioned grassroot movements on the lists earlier20:39
highvoltageI want the website to be welcomming and let people know that it's a grassroot-kind of movement20:39
dgrooshighvoltage: I agree, clean and nice balance of white space/content20:39
highvoltageand I want to make it inviting so that people would actually want to get involved on all sorts of levels20:40
highvoltageI want lots of stories of what people out there are doing with ubuntu in schools, at home20:40
highvoltageand also stories of people who contribute, how they contribue and why they do it20:40
dgroosvery cool.20:41
dindahighvoltage: I'll tell you what it was great to go to that Moodle conference and see educators inviting Dell to come see their LTSP and Ubuntu labs!20:41
highvoltageedubuntu has been way too boring for too long and we need to change that :)20:41
highvoltagedinda: awesome :)20:41
* mhall119 needs to attempt an LTSP lab one of these days20:41
highvoltagedinda: it would be so cool if you could write a blog entry for the site some time when you go to such a conference again!20:42
highvoltagewell, when we actually have a blog up and running :)20:42
dindahighvoltage: was just thinking it would be a nice time ask people to either post to the list or maybe we can create a wiki page of schools using Ubuntu - is there such a page now?20:42
highvoltagedinda: I'm not sure. I think there used to be. would you perhaps have time to check?20:42
dindahighvoltage: yip, searching now20:43
dindaback to school time in north america might be a good time to ask folks to let us know if they are going back to school with ubuntu20:46
highvoltageAnything else for this meeting? I think I pretty much covered everything on my list :)20:46
dindaall good here20:46
dgroosBack to school... tomorrow!20:46
highvoltagedinda: the company I work for also does linux support and implementation for a bunch of school districts. I can probably get some people to do interviews with some schools when they go out there20:47
dindahighvoltage: the article in T.H.E about Open source quoted folks from Revolution Linux20:47
highvoltagecool :)20:48
dindaT.H.E is an education magazine20:48
dindalet me see if I can find the online link, I get the print edition20:48
highvoltagegreat.20:49
pleia2if someone creates a "school using ubuntu" page, please give me a nudge, I have a few to add20:49
dindahttp://thejournal.com/Home.aspx20:49
highvoltagepleia2: great! will do!20:49
highvoltageI guess that's it for this meeting?20:49
highvoltageI'll post the logs to the list.20:50
highvoltageNext week's meeting is the same time, same place20:50
alkisgThanks highvoltage20:50
dindathanks20:50
highvoltageand thanks for joining in so that it's just not me blabbering for 30 minutes! :)20:51
highvoltagemeeting adjourned! *GONG*20:52
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andrew_708476Im after a bit of advicee here ? I downloaded clamAV and Im trying to install it but its not booting of my computer how do I get it to boot22:24
Seveasandrew_708476, try #ubuntu22:34
angelabadcjwatson? Or somebody who was yesterday in the DMB meeting?22:56
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cody-somervilleangelabad, yes?23:08
angelabadHi cody-somerville, my application was pending, and23:09
angelabadcjwatson told me to write to developer-membership-board@lists.ubuntu.com23:10
angelabadyesterday I sent the email to the list, but it is in hold because23:10
angelabad"Post by non-developer to moderated list.23:11
angelabad"23:11
angelabadcody-somerville? now I see in the wiki that my application has been re-scheduled for next23:22
angelabadmeeting, but August 31st is a very bad day for me.23:22
cody-somervilleangelabad, I'm sure a ML moderator will approve your message soon.23:22
cody-somervilleangelabad, And its no problem if you can't make the next meeting.23:22
angelabadcody-somerville, ok thanks a lot!23:23

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