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Unknownmind | Buenas | 07:22 |
Unknownmind | Buenos días... | 07:22 |
Unknownmind | Alguien vivo? | 07:22 |
Unknownmind | Alguien me puede colaborar con una migracion | 07:22 |
Unknownmind | ? | 07:23 |
Unknownmind | Migracion de una db de joomla a un servidor local | 07:23 |
Unknownmind | ? | 07:23 |
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cjwatson | hello | 16:03 |
cjwatson | robbiew: around? | 16:03 |
robbiew | aye | 16:03 |
robbiew | meeting time...but we have very few | 16:04 |
robbiew | ev and mvo on vacation | 16:04 |
* barry is here | 16:04 | |
robbiew | Keybuk on holiday | 16:04 |
robbiew | well...on I have no internet holiday | 16:04 |
robbiew | cjwatson: perhaps we should skip | 16:07 |
robbiew | since we only have a handful of folks | 16:07 |
cjwatson | that leaves doko and surbhi | 16:08 |
cjwatson | yeah, if nobody has anything I'm happy to skip | 16:08 |
* cjwatson is reviewing the merge queue from surbhi :) | 16:08 | |
* ScottK is curious if doko plans to merge python-defaults/python3-defaults, but that doesn't need a meeting. | 16:09 | |
doko | hi | 16:15 |
doko | ScottK: you did tell me, that you did want to merge. so I didn't | 16:15 |
ScottK | doko: OK. I forgot about that. | 16:16 |
ScottK | I'll do it. | 16:16 |
doko | thanks | 16:16 |
robbiew | heh | 16:18 |
doko | so any other business? | 16:20 |
doko | I'd like to schedule test rebuilds of the archive, but would like to choose a time when kde and gnome stacks are all built | 16:20 |
* barry reminds ScottK about two package reviews | 16:21 | |
doko | plus having a general freeze exception for pyton3-* packages would be useful (these don't touch the CD's) | 16:21 |
ScottK | Right. | 16:21 |
ScottK | doko: I think LP rebuilds take too long to have any surety that KDE/Gnome would be built when any particular package got built. | 16:22 |
doko | ScottK: that is not my question | 16:23 |
doko | I just need a time/date for a snapshot | 16:23 |
ScottK | Oh. Right. | 16:24 |
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leini | ahm | 17:58 |
leini | whats that here now? | 17:58 |
ghostcube | meeting channel :) | 17:59 |
leini | nice i like meeting | 18:00 |
leini | and its english too? | 18:00 |
ghostcube | yes | 18:00 |
leini | wow.. seems as if i joined the right chan finally | 18:00 |
ghostcube | depends on what youve been looking for :D | 18:00 |
leini | nothing in special | 18:01 |
leini | but everywhere i went before they where either french or in a technicalsupportwhateverthing | 18:01 |
leini | so i'm just happy that this is for meeting and english | 18:01 |
ghostcube | ok a rule brake.. aber du kannst gerne udo joinen ubuntu-de-offtopic | 18:01 |
ghostcube | als östereicher o.o | 18:02 |
leini | österreicherin | 18:02 |
ghostcube | ok back to english | 18:02 |
ghostcube | sorry | 18:02 |
leini | mensch muss jeder auf die IP glotzen? geht das nicht ohne? | 18:02 |
ghostcube | ich guck nur aufs land | 18:02 |
ghostcube | cause so you can directly send someone to the language support he needs | 18:02 |
leini | and why is everybody either french or german? | 18:02 |
ghostcube | maybe we should take this talk out of the official meeting channel | 18:03 |
ghostcube | not sure if this is wanted | 18:03 |
leini | why not? | 18:03 |
ghostcube | its logged and only used for shedueled meetings of the ubuntu teams | 18:03 |
leini | i am not in a ubuntu team and i don't even know what ubuntu is | 18:04 |
leini | i know it's zulu | 18:04 |
ghostcube | why are you joining ubuntu linux channel if not :D | 18:05 |
leini | so you wanna tell me that i'm not right in here again? | 18:05 |
leini | i got lost. | 18:05 |
ghostcube | gehste mal in ubuntu-de-offtopic bitte | 18:05 |
ghostcube | danke | 18:05 |
leini | da kann ich auch gleich ganz wo anders hin | 18:05 |
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highvoltage | Howdy! Who's here for the Edubuntu meeting? | 20:00 |
highvoltage | Agenda is up on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Meetings/Agenda | 20:01 |
highvoltage | Anything we should add? | 20:01 |
highvoltage | here is the release schedule, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule | 20:02 |
highvoltage | we're one month away from beta. then everything should be more or less working with minor bugs left to fix only | 20:02 |
highvoltage | currently we're more or less ok with feature freeze. the ubiquity enhancements is currently a bit behind schedule, and not yet in a working state | 20:03 |
highvoltage | but if it misses this release entirely, it won't be a major issue | 20:03 |
highvoltage | I discovered this wallpaper last week via OMG!Ubuntu! http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/wallpapers/periodic-table.jpg | 20:04 |
highvoltage | I thought it was quite nice but the license was cc-by-nc, which we can't include in Ubuntu | 20:05 |
dinda | it is nice though | 20:05 |
highvoltage | so I contacted the author and he immediately changed the licensing for us, so it will be one of the included wallpapers in maverick! | 20:05 |
dinda | sweet! | 20:06 |
highvoltage | I'm also going to contact some of the artists who created these wallpapers: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/wallpapers/ | 20:06 |
highvoltage | all of them are already released undera a free license, but has some issues, so maybe I can do some convincing since it's for edubuntu | 20:07 |
alkisg | Woo, nice wallpapers | 20:07 |
highvoltage | the first two that starts with CURRENTLY_NONFREE are also cc-by-nc | 20:07 |
highvoltage | http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/wallpapers/snailrace.jpg is released under an artistic license | 20:07 |
highvoltage | that means we can't remove the VLADSTUDIO text but we are allowed to distrubute it | 20:08 |
dinda | is CC-By the only license we can use? | 20:08 |
highvoltage | maybe I could get them to either remove the text or just change the license. maybe somewhat of a long shot but I decided to give it a shot anyway | 20:08 |
alkisg | Most of the vlad studio text will be covered by the bottom panel anyway :P | 20:09 |
highvoltage | dinda: we can use any free license, which includes but is not limited to: cc-by, gpl, gfdl, bsd and public domain | 20:09 |
highvoltage | alkisg: hehe, yes | 20:09 |
highvoltage | dinda: for people who use cc-by-nc, it's often easy enought to convince them to just drop the -nc | 20:10 |
* mhall119 is here | 20:10 | |
dinda | ok, makes sense, thanks | 20:10 |
highvoltage | the periodic table wallpaper is already in the wallpaper chooser since today | 20:11 |
highvoltage | I'll add the GPL/CC-BY ones tomorrow and then the rest as they become available | 20:11 |
highvoltage | I plan to split the wallpapers out into a -wallpapers package, since our artwork package is already quite big and it's a lot to update for what's usually just a few text changes in the file | 20:12 |
highvoltage | I also uploaded Gnome Nanny last week | 20:12 |
highvoltage | some more information on Gnome Nanny here: http://www.tectonic.co.za/2010/06/gnome-nanny/ | 20:12 |
highvoltage | stgraber added it to the seeds so it's included in the current edubuntu builds | 20:13 |
highvoltage | I'll try to get the gnome-nanny-data package uploaded too, it includes lists of sites and stuff that kids shouldn't be able to visit | 20:14 |
mhall119 | is gnome nanny Gnome dependent, or just GDM dependent? | 20:14 |
highvoltage | mhall119: not sure. it uses gconf for some stuff so it's certainly somewhat gnome dependent | 20:15 |
alkisg | highvoltage: so gnome-nanny is in the maverick repositories? /me can't find it... | 20:15 |
mhall119 | ok | 20:15 |
highvoltage | mhall119: talking of which, mgariepy (hrm I should get him to join these meetings) showed me some cool stuff he does with gconf paths with the desktop-profiles package, from what I've seen it might be possible to fix the qimo-gnome-desktop dillemma with that | 20:16 |
highvoltage | alkisg: package name is just 'nanny' | 20:16 |
mhall119 | highvoltage: I think that's what I've been learning about on my own, so getting some guidance from someone who knows the "right way" would be fantastic | 20:17 |
alkisg | highvoltage: cool, thanks! | 20:17 |
alkisg | (nanny wasn't on packages.ubuntu.com yet but it's there) | 20:17 |
highvoltage | alkisg: ah yes, maverick is currently broken on packages.ubuntu.com :( | 20:18 |
alkisg | Ah | 20:18 |
highvoltage | bug I'm going to work on this week still includ: bug 619888, 614045, 588890, 613797, and 615162 | 20:19 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 619888 in edubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "Split edubuntu-wallpapers from edubuntu-artwork" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619888 | 20:19 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 614045 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Acire" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614045 | 20:19 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 588890 in edubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Old artwork used in "About Edubuntu" page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588890 | 20:19 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 613797 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Edubuntu Maverick Alpha 3 installation went much slower than usual" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613797 | 20:19 |
highvoltage | ubottu: thanks | 20:19 |
ubottu | You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) | 20:19 |
highvoltage | anyone else have any bugs or technical work to mention before we move on? | 20:19 |
dinda | what's the status of the edubuntu-docs? is that just updating the artwork? | 20:20 |
highvoltage | good question, we should actually have a section for docs for each meeting | 20:20 |
highvoltage | it will certainly need some updating but personally I haven't had any time to make any plans for it | 20:20 |
dinda | yes, always a tough task to find people to update docs | 20:21 |
highvoltage | dgroos started this so that we can put together a basic selection of instructions and tips for Edubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/BasicSetup | 20:22 |
dinda | anything considered critical for maverick other than artwork? | 20:22 |
highvoltage | so that would be quite useful. the built-in help system (yelp) in edubuntu would still need some further update though | 20:22 |
highvoltage | I don't think we have anything strictly marked critical at this stage. if I don't finish the ltsp and desktop integration plugins for ubiquity, we'd have a regression from lucid since we at least had some crude working version of that in there | 20:24 |
highvoltage | so I guess that's #1 on my todo list | 20:24 |
highvoltage | and that's probably going to take most of my edubuntu time over the next 2 weeks | 20:24 |
dinda | :) | 20:24 |
highvoltage | we should perhaps try to get the ubuntu-doc team involved a bit more | 20:25 |
dinda | highvoltage: there are always new people coming offering to help with docs but most cannot get through the download this branch from Bzr and then use docbook to edit stage | 20:26 |
dinda | minor patching stuff is fine and even better if they can just edit wiki pages | 20:26 |
highvoltage | dinda: *nod* imho if someone just even wants to write a blog entry or put their documentation into an MS Word document that's fine with me | 20:27 |
dinda | me too | 20:27 |
highvoltage | getting it wiki-ized or up on a webpage is something lots of us can do :) | 20:27 |
dinda | highvoltage: quick question o the wiki since it's come up. . . | 20:28 |
dinda | is the edubuntu wiki site completely separate from the main ubuntu wiki site? | 20:28 |
highvoltage | and someone in the ubuntu-doc team can then convert it into other formats from there | 20:28 |
highvoltage | dinda: that question comes up often. the edubuntu wiki and the ubuntu wiki is in fact the exact same wiki, with different skins | 20:28 |
dinda | ok, good | 20:29 |
highvoltage | dinda: this confuses many users, and even search engines | 20:29 |
highvoltage | so with the last release cycle we actually decided to drop the edubuntu theme, and just use the ubuntu wiki (redirecting links from the edubuntu.org domain) | 20:30 |
highvoltage | the same with the kubuntu wiki too. | 20:30 |
dinda | makes sense as most folks will start on the ubuntu wiki and search there | 20:30 |
highvoltage | I need to still create an RT ticket about that... | 20:31 |
highvoltage | ah! and more good news, canonical IS fixed the last permissions I needed on the webserver this morning | 20:32 |
highvoltage | I said before that I actually bought a new theme for the site | 20:32 |
highvoltage | we've had lots of tries on redesigns but people either lost the momentum or enthusiasm to complete it | 20:33 |
highvoltage | so I'm just going to adapt an existing great theme to our use | 20:33 |
mhall119 | highvoltage: what platform does the website use? | 20:33 |
highvoltage | (I'll get a screenshot so long) | 20:33 |
highvoltage | mhall119: drupal | 20:33 |
mhall119 | highvoltage: there is currently work on a Drupal theme to match the new ubuntu.com theme | 20:34 |
mhall119 | it'll be based on the ubuntu-website project | 20:34 |
mhall119 | just like the one we use for loco.ubuntu.com | 20:35 |
highvoltage | mhall119: when I'm done with our site, it's going to look better than the ubuntu.com site ;) | 20:35 |
mhall119 | even better | 20:35 |
mhall119 | just wanted to put that knowledge out there | 20:35 |
highvoltage | here's a sreenshot of the vanilla theme: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/website/mynx-theme.jpg | 20:36 |
highvoltage | and here's a link to a live demo, although you might have to choose the specific variation in the variation chooser: http://demo.rockettheme.com/drupal/?theme=mynxx | 20:36 |
mhall119 | shiny | 20:36 |
highvoltage | what I like about that theme is, it's very functional, but also very basic, so it's easy to customize | 20:37 |
highvoltage | it will probably not be very recognisable as that theme when I'm done with it, but I think it can work as a very good base for the edubuntu site | 20:37 |
highvoltage | ah, if you choose the light-orange variation form the variation chooser, it will look like the one in the screenshot | 20:38 |
alkisg | Nice, it feel light... (/me hates heavy webpages like launchpad :D) | 20:38 |
highvoltage | dinda mentioned grassroot movements on the lists earlier | 20:39 |
highvoltage | I want the website to be welcomming and let people know that it's a grassroot-kind of movement | 20:39 |
dgroos | highvoltage: I agree, clean and nice balance of white space/content | 20:39 |
highvoltage | and I want to make it inviting so that people would actually want to get involved on all sorts of levels | 20:40 |
highvoltage | I want lots of stories of what people out there are doing with ubuntu in schools, at home | 20:40 |
highvoltage | and also stories of people who contribute, how they contribue and why they do it | 20:40 |
dgroos | very cool. | 20:41 |
dinda | highvoltage: I'll tell you what it was great to go to that Moodle conference and see educators inviting Dell to come see their LTSP and Ubuntu labs! | 20:41 |
highvoltage | edubuntu has been way too boring for too long and we need to change that :) | 20:41 |
highvoltage | dinda: awesome :) | 20:41 |
* mhall119 needs to attempt an LTSP lab one of these days | 20:41 | |
highvoltage | dinda: it would be so cool if you could write a blog entry for the site some time when you go to such a conference again! | 20:42 |
highvoltage | well, when we actually have a blog up and running :) | 20:42 |
dinda | highvoltage: was just thinking it would be a nice time ask people to either post to the list or maybe we can create a wiki page of schools using Ubuntu - is there such a page now? | 20:42 |
highvoltage | dinda: I'm not sure. I think there used to be. would you perhaps have time to check? | 20:42 |
dinda | highvoltage: yip, searching now | 20:43 |
dinda | back to school time in north america might be a good time to ask folks to let us know if they are going back to school with ubuntu | 20:46 |
highvoltage | Anything else for this meeting? I think I pretty much covered everything on my list :) | 20:46 |
dinda | all good here | 20:46 |
dgroos | Back to school... tomorrow! | 20:46 |
highvoltage | dinda: the company I work for also does linux support and implementation for a bunch of school districts. I can probably get some people to do interviews with some schools when they go out there | 20:47 |
dinda | highvoltage: the article in T.H.E about Open source quoted folks from Revolution Linux | 20:47 |
highvoltage | cool :) | 20:48 |
dinda | T.H.E is an education magazine | 20:48 |
dinda | let me see if I can find the online link, I get the print edition | 20:48 |
highvoltage | great. | 20:49 |
pleia2 | if someone creates a "school using ubuntu" page, please give me a nudge, I have a few to add | 20:49 |
dinda | http://thejournal.com/Home.aspx | 20:49 |
highvoltage | pleia2: great! will do! | 20:49 |
highvoltage | I guess that's it for this meeting? | 20:49 |
highvoltage | I'll post the logs to the list. | 20:50 |
highvoltage | Next week's meeting is the same time, same place | 20:50 |
alkisg | Thanks highvoltage | 20:50 |
dinda | thanks | 20:50 |
highvoltage | and thanks for joining in so that it's just not me blabbering for 30 minutes! :) | 20:51 |
highvoltage | meeting adjourned! *GONG* | 20:52 |
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andrew_708476 | Im after a bit of advicee here ? I downloaded clamAV and Im trying to install it but its not booting of my computer how do I get it to boot | 22:24 |
Seveas | andrew_708476, try #ubuntu | 22:34 |
angelabad | cjwatson? Or somebody who was yesterday in the DMB meeting? | 22:56 |
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cody-somerville | angelabad, yes? | 23:08 |
angelabad | Hi cody-somerville, my application was pending, and | 23:09 |
angelabad | cjwatson told me to write to developer-membership-board@lists.ubuntu.com | 23:10 |
angelabad | yesterday I sent the email to the list, but it is in hold because | 23:10 |
angelabad | "Post by non-developer to moderated list. | 23:11 |
angelabad | " | 23:11 |
angelabad | cody-somerville? now I see in the wiki that my application has been re-scheduled for next | 23:22 |
angelabad | meeting, but August 31st is a very bad day for me. | 23:22 |
cody-somerville | angelabad, I'm sure a ML moderator will approve your message soon. | 23:22 |
cody-somerville | angelabad, And its no problem if you can't make the next meeting. | 23:22 |
angelabad | cody-somerville, ok thanks a lot! | 23:23 |
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