=== Narwhal is now known as IdleOne === daves is now known as dsteele [05:11] Hola [05:16] Hola === oubiwann-away is now known as oubiwann [07:22] Buenas [07:22] Buenos días... [07:22] Alguien vivo? [07:22] Alguien me puede colaborar con una migracion [07:23] ? [07:23] Migracion de una db de joomla a un servidor local [07:23] ? === doko_ is now known as doko === yofel_ is now known as yofel === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === bond_gone is now known as coolbhavi === e-jat is now known as ejat === maco2 is now known as maco === e-jat is now known as ejat [16:03] hello [16:03] robbiew: around? [16:03] aye [16:04] meeting time...but we have very few [16:04] ev and mvo on vacation [16:04] * barry is here [16:04] Keybuk on holiday [16:04] well...on I have no internet holiday [16:07] cjwatson: perhaps we should skip [16:07] since we only have a handful of folks [16:08] that leaves doko and surbhi [16:08] yeah, if nobody has anything I'm happy to skip [16:08] * cjwatson is reviewing the merge queue from surbhi :) [16:09] * ScottK is curious if doko plans to merge python-defaults/python3-defaults, but that doesn't need a meeting. [16:15] hi [16:15] ScottK: you did tell me, that you did want to merge. so I didn't [16:16] doko: OK. I forgot about that. [16:16] I'll do it. [16:16] thanks [16:18] heh [16:20] so any other business? [16:20] I'd like to schedule test rebuilds of the archive, but would like to choose a time when kde and gnome stacks are all built [16:21] * barry reminds ScottK about two package reviews [16:21] plus having a general freeze exception for pyton3-* packages would be useful (these don't touch the CD's) [16:21] Right. [16:22] doko: I think LP rebuilds take too long to have any surety that KDE/Gnome would be built when any particular package got built. [16:23] ScottK: that is not my question [16:23] I just need a time/date for a snapshot [16:24] Oh. Right. === bulldog is now known as bulldog98 === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch === emma is now known as emc44 === emc44 is now known as em [17:58] ahm [17:58] whats that here now? [17:59] meeting channel :) [18:00] nice i like meeting [18:00] and its english too? [18:00] yes [18:00] wow.. seems as if i joined the right chan finally [18:00] depends on what youve been looking for :D [18:01] nothing in special [18:01] but everywhere i went before they where either french or in a technicalsupportwhateverthing [18:01] so i'm just happy that this is for meeting and english [18:01] ok a rule brake.. aber du kannst gerne udo joinen ubuntu-de-offtopic [18:02] als östereicher o.o [18:02] österreicherin [18:02] ok back to english [18:02] sorry [18:02] mensch muss jeder auf die IP glotzen? geht das nicht ohne? [18:02] ich guck nur aufs land [18:02] cause so you can directly send someone to the language support he needs [18:02] and why is everybody either french or german? [18:03] maybe we should take this talk out of the official meeting channel [18:03] not sure if this is wanted [18:03] why not? [18:03] its logged and only used for shedueled meetings of the ubuntu teams [18:04] i am not in a ubuntu team and i don't even know what ubuntu is [18:04] i know it's zulu [18:05] why are you joining ubuntu linux channel if not :D [18:05] so you wanna tell me that i'm not right in here again? [18:05] i got lost. [18:05] gehste mal in ubuntu-de-offtopic bitte [18:05] danke [18:05] da kann ich auch gleich ganz wo anders hin === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl === Ursinha-lunch is now known as Ursinha [20:00] Howdy! Who's here for the Edubuntu meeting? [20:01] Agenda is up on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Meetings/Agenda [20:01] Anything we should add? [20:02] here is the release schedule, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule [20:02] we're one month away from beta. then everything should be more or less working with minor bugs left to fix only [20:03] currently we're more or less ok with feature freeze. the ubiquity enhancements is currently a bit behind schedule, and not yet in a working state [20:03] but if it misses this release entirely, it won't be a major issue [20:04] I discovered this wallpaper last week via OMG!Ubuntu! http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/wallpapers/periodic-table.jpg [20:05] I thought it was quite nice but the license was cc-by-nc, which we can't include in Ubuntu [20:05] it is nice though [20:05] so I contacted the author and he immediately changed the licensing for us, so it will be one of the included wallpapers in maverick! [20:06] sweet! [20:06] I'm also going to contact some of the artists who created these wallpapers: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/wallpapers/ [20:07] all of them are already released undera a free license, but has some issues, so maybe I can do some convincing since it's for edubuntu [20:07] Woo, nice wallpapers [20:07] the first two that starts with CURRENTLY_NONFREE are also cc-by-nc [20:07] http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/wallpapers/snailrace.jpg is released under an artistic license [20:08] that means we can't remove the VLADSTUDIO text but we are allowed to distrubute it [20:08] is CC-By the only license we can use? [20:08] maybe I could get them to either remove the text or just change the license. maybe somewhat of a long shot but I decided to give it a shot anyway [20:09] Most of the vlad studio text will be covered by the bottom panel anyway :P [20:09] dinda: we can use any free license, which includes but is not limited to: cc-by, gpl, gfdl, bsd and public domain [20:09] alkisg: hehe, yes [20:10] dinda: for people who use cc-by-nc, it's often easy enought to convince them to just drop the -nc [20:10] * mhall119 is here [20:10] ok, makes sense, thanks [20:11] the periodic table wallpaper is already in the wallpaper chooser since today [20:11] I'll add the GPL/CC-BY ones tomorrow and then the rest as they become available [20:12] I plan to split the wallpapers out into a -wallpapers package, since our artwork package is already quite big and it's a lot to update for what's usually just a few text changes in the file [20:12] I also uploaded Gnome Nanny last week [20:12] some more information on Gnome Nanny here: http://www.tectonic.co.za/2010/06/gnome-nanny/ [20:13] stgraber added it to the seeds so it's included in the current edubuntu builds [20:14] I'll try to get the gnome-nanny-data package uploaded too, it includes lists of sites and stuff that kids shouldn't be able to visit [20:14] is gnome nanny Gnome dependent, or just GDM dependent? [20:15] mhall119: not sure. it uses gconf for some stuff so it's certainly somewhat gnome dependent [20:15] highvoltage: so gnome-nanny is in the maverick repositories? /me can't find it... [20:15] ok [20:16] mhall119: talking of which, mgariepy (hrm I should get him to join these meetings) showed me some cool stuff he does with gconf paths with the desktop-profiles package, from what I've seen it might be possible to fix the qimo-gnome-desktop dillemma with that [20:16] alkisg: package name is just 'nanny' [20:17] highvoltage: I think that's what I've been learning about on my own, so getting some guidance from someone who knows the "right way" would be fantastic [20:17] highvoltage: cool, thanks! [20:17] (nanny wasn't on packages.ubuntu.com yet but it's there) [20:18] alkisg: ah yes, maverick is currently broken on packages.ubuntu.com :( [20:18] Ah [20:19] bug I'm going to work on this week still includ: bug 619888, 614045, 588890, 613797, and 615162 [20:19] Launchpad bug 619888 in edubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "Split edubuntu-wallpapers from edubuntu-artwork" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619888 [20:19] Launchpad bug 614045 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Acire" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614045 [20:19] Launchpad bug 588890 in edubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Old artwork used in "About Edubuntu" page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588890 [20:19] Launchpad bug 613797 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Edubuntu Maverick Alpha 3 installation went much slower than usual" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613797 [20:19] ubottu: thanks [20:19] You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) [20:19] anyone else have any bugs or technical work to mention before we move on? [20:20] what's the status of the edubuntu-docs? is that just updating the artwork? [20:20] good question, we should actually have a section for docs for each meeting [20:20] it will certainly need some updating but personally I haven't had any time to make any plans for it [20:21] yes, always a tough task to find people to update docs [20:22] dgroos started this so that we can put together a basic selection of instructions and tips for Edubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/BasicSetup [20:22] anything considered critical for maverick other than artwork? [20:22] so that would be quite useful. the built-in help system (yelp) in edubuntu would still need some further update though [20:24] I don't think we have anything strictly marked critical at this stage. if I don't finish the ltsp and desktop integration plugins for ubiquity, we'd have a regression from lucid since we at least had some crude working version of that in there [20:24] so I guess that's #1 on my todo list [20:24] and that's probably going to take most of my edubuntu time over the next 2 weeks [20:24] :) [20:25] we should perhaps try to get the ubuntu-doc team involved a bit more [20:26] highvoltage: there are always new people coming offering to help with docs but most cannot get through the download this branch from Bzr and then use docbook to edit stage [20:26] minor patching stuff is fine and even better if they can just edit wiki pages [20:27] dinda: *nod* imho if someone just even wants to write a blog entry or put their documentation into an MS Word document that's fine with me [20:27] me too [20:27] getting it wiki-ized or up on a webpage is something lots of us can do :) [20:28] highvoltage: quick question o the wiki since it's come up. . . [20:28] is the edubuntu wiki site completely separate from the main ubuntu wiki site? [20:28] and someone in the ubuntu-doc team can then convert it into other formats from there [20:28] dinda: that question comes up often. the edubuntu wiki and the ubuntu wiki is in fact the exact same wiki, with different skins [20:29] ok, good [20:29] dinda: this confuses many users, and even search engines [20:30] so with the last release cycle we actually decided to drop the edubuntu theme, and just use the ubuntu wiki (redirecting links from the edubuntu.org domain) [20:30] the same with the kubuntu wiki too. [20:30] makes sense as most folks will start on the ubuntu wiki and search there [20:31] I need to still create an RT ticket about that... [20:32] ah! and more good news, canonical IS fixed the last permissions I needed on the webserver this morning [20:32] I said before that I actually bought a new theme for the site [20:33] we've had lots of tries on redesigns but people either lost the momentum or enthusiasm to complete it [20:33] so I'm just going to adapt an existing great theme to our use [20:33] highvoltage: what platform does the website use? [20:33] (I'll get a screenshot so long) [20:33] mhall119: drupal [20:34] highvoltage: there is currently work on a Drupal theme to match the new ubuntu.com theme [20:34] it'll be based on the ubuntu-website project [20:35] just like the one we use for loco.ubuntu.com [20:35] mhall119: when I'm done with our site, it's going to look better than the ubuntu.com site ;) [20:35] even better [20:35] just wanted to put that knowledge out there [20:36] here's a sreenshot of the vanilla theme: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/website/mynx-theme.jpg [20:36] and here's a link to a live demo, although you might have to choose the specific variation in the variation chooser: http://demo.rockettheme.com/drupal/?theme=mynxx [20:36] shiny [20:37] what I like about that theme is, it's very functional, but also very basic, so it's easy to customize [20:37] it will probably not be very recognisable as that theme when I'm done with it, but I think it can work as a very good base for the edubuntu site [20:38] ah, if you choose the light-orange variation form the variation chooser, it will look like the one in the screenshot [20:38] Nice, it feel light... (/me hates heavy webpages like launchpad :D) [20:39] dinda mentioned grassroot movements on the lists earlier [20:39] I want the website to be welcomming and let people know that it's a grassroot-kind of movement [20:39] highvoltage: I agree, clean and nice balance of white space/content [20:40] and I want to make it inviting so that people would actually want to get involved on all sorts of levels [20:40] I want lots of stories of what people out there are doing with ubuntu in schools, at home [20:40] and also stories of people who contribute, how they contribue and why they do it [20:41] very cool. [20:41] highvoltage: I'll tell you what it was great to go to that Moodle conference and see educators inviting Dell to come see their LTSP and Ubuntu labs! [20:41] edubuntu has been way too boring for too long and we need to change that :) [20:41] dinda: awesome :) [20:41] * mhall119 needs to attempt an LTSP lab one of these days [20:42] dinda: it would be so cool if you could write a blog entry for the site some time when you go to such a conference again! [20:42] well, when we actually have a blog up and running :) [20:42] highvoltage: was just thinking it would be a nice time ask people to either post to the list or maybe we can create a wiki page of schools using Ubuntu - is there such a page now? [20:42] dinda: I'm not sure. I think there used to be. would you perhaps have time to check? [20:43] highvoltage: yip, searching now [20:46] back to school time in north america might be a good time to ask folks to let us know if they are going back to school with ubuntu [20:46] Anything else for this meeting? I think I pretty much covered everything on my list :) [20:46] all good here [20:46] Back to school... tomorrow! [20:47] dinda: the company I work for also does linux support and implementation for a bunch of school districts. I can probably get some people to do interviews with some schools when they go out there [20:47] highvoltage: the article in T.H.E about Open source quoted folks from Revolution Linux [20:48] cool :) [20:48] T.H.E is an education magazine [20:48] let me see if I can find the online link, I get the print edition [20:49] great. [20:49] if someone creates a "school using ubuntu" page, please give me a nudge, I have a few to add [20:49] http://thejournal.com/Home.aspx [20:49] pleia2: great! will do! [20:49] I guess that's it for this meeting? [20:50] I'll post the logs to the list. [20:50] Next week's meeting is the same time, same place [20:50] Thanks highvoltage [20:50] thanks [20:51] and thanks for joining in so that it's just not me blabbering for 30 minutes! :) [20:52] meeting adjourned! *GONG* === starcraft is now known as starcraftman === YoBoY` is now known as YoBoY [22:24] Im after a bit of advicee here ? I downloaded clamAV and Im trying to install it but its not booting of my computer how do I get it to boot [22:34] andrew_708476, try #ubuntu [22:56] cjwatson? Or somebody who was yesterday in the DMB meeting? === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-bbl [23:08] angelabad, yes? [23:09] Hi cody-somerville, my application was pending, and [23:10] cjwatson told me to write to developer-membership-board@lists.ubuntu.com [23:10] yesterday I sent the email to the list, but it is in hold because [23:11] "Post by non-developer to moderated list. [23:11] " [23:22] cody-somerville? now I see in the wiki that my application has been re-scheduled for next [23:22] meeting, but August 31st is a very bad day for me. [23:22] angelabad, I'm sure a ML moderator will approve your message soon. [23:22] angelabad, And its no problem if you can't make the next meeting. [23:23] cody-somerville, ok thanks a lot!