[05:11] <mvilla> Hola
[05:16] <mvilla> Hola
[07:22] <Unknownmind> Buenas
[07:22] <Unknownmind> Buenos días...
[07:22] <Unknownmind> Alguien vivo?
[07:22] <Unknownmind> Alguien me puede colaborar con una migracion
[07:23] <Unknownmind> ?
[07:23] <Unknownmind> Migracion de una db de joomla a un servidor local
[07:23] <Unknownmind> ?
[16:03] <cjwatson> hello
[16:03] <cjwatson> robbiew: around?
[16:03] <robbiew> aye
[16:04] <robbiew> meeting time...but we have very few
[16:04] <robbiew> ev and mvo on vacation
[16:04]  * barry is here
[16:04] <robbiew> Keybuk on holiday
[16:04] <robbiew> well...on I have no internet holiday
[16:07] <robbiew> cjwatson: perhaps we should skip
[16:07] <robbiew> since we only have a handful of folks
[16:08] <cjwatson> that leaves doko and surbhi
[16:08] <cjwatson> yeah, if nobody has anything I'm happy to skip
[16:08]  * cjwatson is reviewing the merge queue from surbhi :)
[16:09]  * ScottK is curious if doko plans to merge python-defaults/python3-defaults, but that doesn't need a meeting.
[16:15] <doko> hi
[16:15] <doko> ScottK: you did tell me, that you did want to merge. so I didn't
[16:16] <ScottK> doko: OK.  I forgot about that.
[16:16] <ScottK> I'll do it.
[16:16] <doko> thanks
[16:18] <robbiew> heh
[16:20] <doko> so any other business?
[16:20] <doko> I'd like to schedule test rebuilds of the archive, but would like to choose a time when kde and gnome stacks are all built
[16:21]  * barry reminds ScottK about two package reviews
[16:21] <doko> plus having a general freeze exception for pyton3-* packages would be useful (these don't touch the CD's)
[16:21] <ScottK> Right.
[16:22] <ScottK> doko: I think LP rebuilds take too long to have any surety that KDE/Gnome would be built when any particular package got built.
[16:23] <doko> ScottK: that is not my question
[16:23] <doko> I just need a time/date for a snapshot
[16:24] <ScottK> Oh.  Right.
[17:58] <leini> ahm
[17:58] <leini> whats that here now?
[17:59] <ghostcube> meeting channel :)
[18:00] <leini> nice i like meeting
[18:00] <leini> and its english too?
[18:00] <ghostcube> yes
[18:00] <leini> wow.. seems as if i joined the right chan finally
[18:00] <ghostcube> depends on what youve been looking for :D
[18:01] <leini> nothing in special
[18:01] <leini> but everywhere i went before they where either french or in a technicalsupportwhateverthing
[18:01] <leini> so i'm just happy that this is for meeting and english
[18:01] <ghostcube> ok a rule brake.. aber du kannst gerne udo joinen ubuntu-de-offtopic
[18:02] <ghostcube> als östereicher o.o
[18:02] <leini> österreicherin
[18:02] <ghostcube> ok back to english
[18:02] <ghostcube> sorry
[18:02] <leini> mensch muss jeder auf die IP glotzen? geht das nicht ohne?
[18:02] <ghostcube> ich guck nur aufs land
[18:02] <ghostcube> cause so you can directly send someone to the language support he needs
[18:02] <leini> and why is everybody either french or german?
[18:03] <ghostcube> maybe we should take this talk out of the official meeting channel
[18:03] <ghostcube> not sure if this is wanted
[18:03] <leini> why not?
[18:03] <ghostcube> its logged and only used for shedueled meetings of the ubuntu teams
[18:04] <leini> i am not in a ubuntu team and i don't even know what ubuntu is
[18:04] <leini> i know it's zulu
[18:05] <ghostcube> why are you joining ubuntu linux channel if not :D
[18:05] <leini> so you wanna tell me that i'm not right in here again?
[18:05] <leini> i got lost.
[18:05] <ghostcube> gehste mal in ubuntu-de-offtopic bitte
[18:05] <ghostcube> danke
[18:05] <leini> da kann ich auch gleich ganz wo anders hin
[20:00] <highvoltage> Howdy! Who's here for the Edubuntu meeting?
[20:01] <highvoltage> Agenda is up on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Meetings/Agenda
[20:01] <highvoltage> Anything we should add?
[20:02] <highvoltage> here is the release schedule, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule
[20:02] <highvoltage> we're one month away from beta. then everything should be more or less working with minor bugs left to fix only
[20:03] <highvoltage> currently we're more or less ok with feature freeze. the ubiquity enhancements is currently a bit behind schedule, and not yet in a working state
[20:03] <highvoltage> but if it misses this release entirely, it won't be a major issue
[20:04] <highvoltage> I discovered this wallpaper last week via OMG!Ubuntu! http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/wallpapers/periodic-table.jpg
[20:05] <highvoltage> I thought it was quite nice but the license was cc-by-nc, which we can't include in Ubuntu
[20:05] <dinda> it is nice though
[20:05] <highvoltage> so I contacted the author and he immediately changed the licensing for us, so it will be one of the included wallpapers in maverick!
[20:06] <dinda> sweet!
[20:06] <highvoltage> I'm also going to contact some of the artists who created these wallpapers: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/wallpapers/
[20:07] <highvoltage> all of them are already released undera a free license, but has some issues, so maybe I can do some convincing since it's for edubuntu
[20:07] <alkisg> Woo, nice wallpapers
[20:07] <highvoltage> the first two that starts with CURRENTLY_NONFREE are also cc-by-nc
[20:07] <highvoltage> http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/wallpapers/snailrace.jpg is released under an artistic license
[20:08] <highvoltage> that means we can't remove the VLADSTUDIO text but we are allowed to distrubute it
[20:08] <dinda> is CC-By  the only license we can use?
[20:08] <highvoltage> maybe I could get them to either remove the text or just change the license. maybe somewhat of a long shot but I decided to give it a shot anyway
[20:09] <alkisg> Most of the vlad studio text will be covered by the bottom panel anyway :P
[20:09] <highvoltage> dinda: we can use any free license, which includes but is not limited to: cc-by, gpl, gfdl, bsd and public domain
[20:09] <highvoltage> alkisg: hehe, yes
[20:10] <highvoltage> dinda: for people who use cc-by-nc, it's often easy enought to convince them to just drop the -nc
[20:10]  * mhall119 is here
[20:10] <dinda> ok, makes sense, thanks
[20:11] <highvoltage> the periodic table wallpaper is already in the wallpaper chooser since today
[20:11] <highvoltage> I'll add the GPL/CC-BY ones tomorrow and then the rest as they become available
[20:12] <highvoltage> I plan to split the wallpapers out into a -wallpapers package, since our artwork package is already quite big and it's a lot to update for what's usually just a few text changes in the file
[20:12] <highvoltage> I also uploaded Gnome Nanny last week
[20:12] <highvoltage> some more information on Gnome Nanny here: http://www.tectonic.co.za/2010/06/gnome-nanny/
[20:13] <highvoltage> stgraber added it to the seeds so it's included in the current edubuntu builds
[20:14] <highvoltage> I'll try to get the gnome-nanny-data package uploaded too, it includes lists of sites and stuff that kids shouldn't be able to visit
[20:14] <mhall119> is gnome nanny Gnome dependent, or just GDM dependent?
[20:15] <highvoltage> mhall119: not sure. it uses gconf for some stuff so it's certainly somewhat gnome dependent
[20:15] <alkisg> highvoltage: so gnome-nanny is in the maverick repositories? /me can't find it...
[20:15] <mhall119> ok
[20:16] <highvoltage> mhall119: talking of which, mgariepy (hrm I should get him to join these meetings) showed me some cool stuff he does with gconf paths with the desktop-profiles package, from what I've seen it might be possible to fix the qimo-gnome-desktop dillemma with that
[20:16] <highvoltage> alkisg: package name is just 'nanny'
[20:17] <mhall119> highvoltage: I think that's what I've been learning about on my own, so getting some guidance from someone who knows the "right way" would be fantastic
[20:17] <alkisg> highvoltage: cool, thanks!
[20:17] <alkisg> (nanny wasn't on packages.ubuntu.com yet but it's there)
[20:18] <highvoltage> alkisg: ah yes, maverick is currently broken on packages.ubuntu.com :(
[20:18] <alkisg> Ah
[20:19] <highvoltage> bug I'm going to work on this week still includ: bug 619888, 614045, 588890, 613797, and 615162
[20:19] <highvoltage> ubottu: thanks
[20:19] <highvoltage> anyone else have any bugs or technical work to mention before we move on?
[20:20] <dinda> what's the status of the edubuntu-docs?  is that just updating the artwork?
[20:20] <highvoltage> good question, we should actually have a section for docs for each meeting
[20:20] <highvoltage> it will certainly need some updating but personally I haven't had any time to make any plans for it
[20:21] <dinda> yes, always a tough task to find people to update docs
[20:22] <highvoltage> dgroos started this so that we can put together a basic selection of instructions and tips for Edubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/BasicSetup
[20:22] <dinda> anything considered critical for maverick other than artwork?
[20:22] <highvoltage> so that would be quite useful. the built-in help system (yelp) in edubuntu would still need some further update though
[20:24] <highvoltage> I don't think we have anything strictly marked critical at this stage. if I don't finish the ltsp and desktop integration plugins for ubiquity, we'd have a regression from lucid since we at least had some crude working version of that in there
[20:24] <highvoltage> so I guess that's #1 on my todo list
[20:24] <highvoltage> and that's probably going to take most of my edubuntu time over the next 2 weeks
[20:24] <dinda> :)
[20:25] <highvoltage> we should perhaps try to get the ubuntu-doc team involved a bit more
[20:26] <dinda> highvoltage: there are always new people coming offering to help with docs but most cannot get through the download this branch from Bzr and then use docbook to edit stage
[20:26] <dinda> minor patching stuff is fine and even better if they can just edit wiki pages
[20:27] <highvoltage> dinda: *nod* imho if someone just even wants to write a blog entry or put their documentation into an MS Word document that's fine with me
[20:27] <dinda> me too
[20:27] <highvoltage> getting it wiki-ized or up on a webpage is something lots of us can do :)
[20:28] <dinda> highvoltage: quick question o the wiki since it's come up. . .
[20:28] <dinda> is the edubuntu wiki site completely separate from the main ubuntu wiki site?
[20:28] <highvoltage> and someone in the ubuntu-doc team can then convert it into other formats from there
[20:28] <highvoltage> dinda: that question comes up often. the edubuntu wiki and the ubuntu wiki is in fact the exact same wiki, with different skins
[20:29] <dinda> ok, good
[20:29] <highvoltage> dinda: this confuses many users, and even search engines
[20:30] <highvoltage> so with the last release cycle we actually decided to drop the edubuntu theme, and just use the ubuntu wiki (redirecting links from the edubuntu.org domain)
[20:30] <highvoltage> the same with the kubuntu wiki too.
[20:30] <dinda> makes sense as most folks will start on the ubuntu wiki and search there
[20:31] <highvoltage> I need to still create an RT ticket about that...
[20:32] <highvoltage> ah! and more good news, canonical IS fixed the last permissions I needed on the webserver this morning
[20:32] <highvoltage> I said before that I actually bought a new theme for the site
[20:33] <highvoltage> we've had lots of tries on redesigns but people either lost the momentum or enthusiasm to complete it
[20:33] <highvoltage> so I'm just going to adapt an existing great theme to our use
[20:33] <mhall119> highvoltage: what platform does the website use?
[20:33] <highvoltage> (I'll get a screenshot so long)
[20:33] <highvoltage> mhall119: drupal
[20:34] <mhall119> highvoltage: there is currently work on a Drupal theme to match the new ubuntu.com theme
[20:34] <mhall119> it'll be based on the ubuntu-website project
[20:35] <mhall119> just like the one we use for loco.ubuntu.com
[20:35] <highvoltage> mhall119: when I'm done with our site, it's going to look better than the ubuntu.com site ;)
[20:35] <mhall119> even better
[20:35] <mhall119> just wanted to put that knowledge out there
[20:36] <highvoltage> here's a sreenshot of the vanilla theme: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/maverick/website/mynx-theme.jpg
[20:36] <highvoltage> and here's a link to a live demo, although you might have to choose the specific variation in the variation chooser: http://demo.rockettheme.com/drupal/?theme=mynxx
[20:36] <mhall119> shiny
[20:37] <highvoltage> what I like about that theme is, it's very functional, but also very basic, so it's easy to customize
[20:37] <highvoltage> it will probably not be very recognisable as that theme when I'm done with it, but I think it can work as a very good base for the edubuntu site
[20:38] <highvoltage> ah, if you choose the light-orange variation form the variation chooser, it will look like the one in the screenshot
[20:38] <alkisg> Nice, it feel light... (/me hates heavy webpages like launchpad :D)
[20:39] <highvoltage> dinda mentioned grassroot movements on the lists earlier
[20:39] <highvoltage> I want the website to be welcomming and let people know that it's a grassroot-kind of movement
[20:39] <dgroos> highvoltage: I agree, clean and nice balance of white space/content
[20:40] <highvoltage> and I want to make it inviting so that people would actually want to get involved on all sorts of levels
[20:40] <highvoltage> I want lots of stories of what people out there are doing with ubuntu in schools, at home
[20:40] <highvoltage> and also stories of people who contribute, how they contribue and why they do it
[20:41] <dgroos> very cool.
[20:41] <dinda> highvoltage: I'll tell you what it was great to go to that Moodle conference and see educators inviting Dell to come see their LTSP and Ubuntu labs!
[20:41] <highvoltage> edubuntu has been way too boring for too long and we need to change that :)
[20:41] <highvoltage> dinda: awesome :)
[20:41]  * mhall119 needs to attempt an LTSP lab one of these days
[20:42] <highvoltage> dinda: it would be so cool if you could write a blog entry for the site some time when you go to such a conference again!
[20:42] <highvoltage> well, when we actually have a blog up and running :)
[20:42] <dinda> highvoltage: was just thinking it would be a nice time ask people to either post to the list or maybe we can create a wiki page of schools using Ubuntu - is there such a page now?
[20:42] <highvoltage> dinda: I'm not sure. I think there used to be. would you perhaps have time to check?
[20:43] <dinda> highvoltage: yip, searching now
[20:46] <dinda> back to school time in north america might be a good time to ask folks to let us know if they are going back to school with ubuntu
[20:46] <highvoltage> Anything else for this meeting? I think I pretty much covered everything on my list :)
[20:46] <dinda> all good here
[20:46] <dgroos> Back to school... tomorrow!
[20:47] <highvoltage> dinda: the company I work for also does linux support and implementation for a bunch of school districts. I can probably get some people to do interviews with some schools when they go out there
[20:47] <dinda> highvoltage: the article in T.H.E about Open source quoted folks from Revolution Linux
[20:48] <highvoltage> cool :)
[20:48] <dinda> T.H.E is an education magazine
[20:48] <dinda> let me see if I can find the online link, I get the print edition
[20:49] <highvoltage> great.
[20:49] <pleia2> if someone creates a "school using ubuntu" page, please give me a nudge, I have a few to add
[20:49] <dinda> http://thejournal.com/Home.aspx
[20:49] <highvoltage> pleia2: great! will do!
[20:49] <highvoltage> I guess that's it for this meeting?
[20:50] <highvoltage> I'll post the logs to the list.
[20:50] <highvoltage> Next week's meeting is the same time, same place
[20:50] <alkisg> Thanks highvoltage
[20:50] <dinda> thanks
[20:51] <highvoltage> and thanks for joining in so that it's just not me blabbering for 30 minutes! :)
[20:52] <highvoltage> meeting adjourned! *GONG*
[22:24] <andrew_708476> Im after a bit of advicee here ? I downloaded clamAV and Im trying to install it but its not booting of my computer how do I get it to boot
[22:34] <Seveas> andrew_708476, try #ubuntu
[22:56] <angelabad> cjwatson? Or somebody who was yesterday in the DMB meeting?
[23:08] <cody-somerville> angelabad, yes?
[23:09] <angelabad> Hi cody-somerville, my application was pending, and
[23:10] <angelabad> cjwatson told me to write to developer-membership-board@lists.ubuntu.com
[23:10] <angelabad> yesterday I sent the email to the list, but it is in hold because
[23:11] <angelabad> "Post by non-developer to moderated list.
[23:11] <angelabad> "
[23:22] <angelabad> cody-somerville? now I see in the wiki that my application has been re-scheduled for next
[23:22] <angelabad> meeting, but August 31st is a very bad day for me.
[23:22] <cody-somerville> angelabad, I'm sure a ML moderator will approve your message soon.
[23:22] <cody-somerville> angelabad, And its no problem if you can't make the next meeting.
[23:23] <angelabad> cody-somerville, ok thanks a lot!