[02:33] <_pg_> hello everyone! I'm wanting to make a media center on a weaker computer, can someone recommend the lightest/best way to go? It runs boxee on ubuntu decently as long as the content is local. Can anyone tell me how to make it run GREAT? 2.2 single core amd, 1gb ram, geforece 5200 (svideo)
[03:43] <rhpot1991> _pg_: SD or HD content?
[06:04] <tobi-wan> hi all! i am using mythbuntu 10.04 (64bit) and have problems playing dvds. for some dvds, the front-end terminates, for others, it hangs in the menu (i am able to select an item, but when i start playback, nothing happens), and for some i get "video frame buffering failed too many times". as of yet, i did not find a dvd that plays back correctly. note: vlc plays these dvds without problem on the same system. any help is much
[06:04] <tobi-wan> appreciated!
[07:13] <tgm4883> tobi-wan, could be that you need to get on auto-builds, could be you need to install dvd support
[07:13] <tgm4883> !auto%
[07:13] <Zinn> Auto builds contain more recent bug fixes than the normal Ubuntu repository contains.  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[14:52] <henkpoley> Would it be possible with a default mythbuntu install to let the frontend wait a liiiitle longer after startup so it doesn't go into the "No UPnP" mode ?
[14:53] <henkpoley> There's apparently a race between my network and the (external) frontend
[15:00] <henkpoley> Now trying with mythwelcome=TRUE in /etc/mythtv/session-settings
[15:09] <henkpoley> Hmm, might solve it.. suboptimal since it somehow takes 20s after you quit mythfrontend to show the 'welcome .. next recording ..' data
[15:38] <henkpoley> Put a 1 second sleep in that same file, hope that helps
[15:39] <henkpoley> ..removed the mythwelcome autostart. Does not seem to be made for external frontends.
[16:44] <corigo> Good morning. On my second boot of my newly installed mythbuntu all I get is a black cursor in the top left corner that becomes a black screen with nothing on it at all
[16:45] <corigo> (white cursor, not black)
[16:46] <rhpot1991> corigo: sounds like it hasn't actually booted and is waiting post bios
[16:46] <corigo> I do occassionally see a little screen flicker and some amberish lines when the hard drive light flickers on the front of the machines
[16:46] <rhpot1991> try the power it down and back on?
[16:47] <corigo> rhpot1991: I think your right, but I've already done that to no effect
[16:47] <rhpot1991> corigo: check your bios settings to make sure you are setup to boot the correct hard drive and so on
[16:48] <corigo> whoops silly me, forgot there was a windows driver CD in the drive... ok now on to the real question... can't seem to get networking to work
[16:51] <henkpoley> corigo: what kind of networking ? and why don't you try to find your answer on #ubuntu or http://ubuntuforums.org/ ?
[16:51] <Zinn> [ubuntuforums.org] Ubuntu Forums
[16:51] <corigo> hmm... holdon still not booting, or more details would have followed
[16:51] <henkpoley> unless it's mythtv networking
[16:52] <corigo> henkpoley: because it's so much nicer talking to people
[16:52] <henkpoley> #ubuntu us usually kind of crowded yes
[16:52] <corigo> crazy crowded over there
[16:53] <henkpoley> Not today, at least not from what I can see
[16:56] <corigo> Yeah, it boots... mostly
[17:00] <corigo> Is MythBuntu an appropriate measure of the speed of XFCE? My KDE desktop seems much faster than this
[17:04] <corigo> So with MythBuntu can I play a movie over my wireless network from its storage location on my file server ?
[17:09] <rhpot1991> corigo: if you setup a share correctly then yes
[17:09] <rhpot1991> you would need to get it mounted on your mythbuntu box, with something like nfs or ciffs
[17:10] <rhpot1991> and then you would need to point the video storage group at that location in mythtv-setup
[17:10] <rhpot1991> provided your wifi can handle it
[17:15] <corigo> wunderbar
[17:23] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, alternatively, couldn't he put a secondary backend on the machine and use the mythtv protocol?
[17:26] <corigo> tgm4883, do you mean on the file server?
[17:26] <tgm4883> corigo, yea
[17:26] <corigo> So the mythtv protocol will stream the media, then?
[17:26] <tgm4883> corigo, are they ISO's?
[17:27] <tgm4883> or VOBs?
[17:27] <corigo> all sorts of formats
[17:27] <tgm4883> corigo, basically it would be using mythvideo storage groups, but there are a few limitations http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo#Disadvantages
[17:28] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] MythVideo - MythTV
[17:29] <corigo> Sounds a bit like they're duplicating a cloud, eh?
[17:30] <tgm4883> I guess?
[17:30] <corigo> Thanks for the pointer
[17:30] <tgm4883> although "cloud" would indicate that it's on the webernets
[17:30] <tgm4883> where this is just your local network
[17:31] <corigo> and further the cloud wouldn't indicate the availability of media stream server either, just storage
[17:32] <corigo> This is by far the slowest booting system I have ever played with
[17:41] <mrand> corigo: how slow and what HD and CPU do you have?  What part takes the longest?
[17:42] <corigo> like 15-20 minutes I've been waiting
[17:43] <corigo> Samsung 40Gb, 2.2Ghz Celeron
[17:43] <corigo> (IDE)
[17:46] <corigo> Rebooted. Gets past POST/BIOS, displayed MythBuntu splash... and now waiting again
[17:47] <corigo> Finally got a background... lol
[17:52] <mrand> Sorry - celeron name has been reused a billion times for a bunch of different families... how old / what generation?
[17:54] <corigo> Intel Celeron 2.2GHz
[17:54] <corigo> 400 MHz Front side bus
[17:54] <corigo> Socket mPGA478
[17:57] <mrand> ok.  While it was fast for its time, I'm thinking it is probably not going to be a speed demon.  Wild guess: 2.2 GHz P4 is probably close to a 1.1 GHz in modern "core" processors.  BTW, how slow is slow?
[17:58] <rhpot1991> shouldn't boot that slow though
[18:00] <mrand> Sorry, I missed the time response above.  Yeah, 15-20 minute seems excessive.  You should be able to turn off splash and see what it is doing (hanging?)
[18:00] <corigo> Hmm, it booted into MythTV, now I guess I need to RTM, care to tell me how to exit MythTV and get to the standard desktop so I can troubleshoot the USB wireless card?
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[18:01] <mrand> Or stop button on your remote.
[18:06] <rhpot1991> "so I can troubleshoot the USB wireless card"
[18:06] <rhpot1991> assuming that may make you sad
[19:08] <corigo> any idea why shutting down does actually shut down the machine, only the OS?
[19:09] <corigo> not does, but does NOT shut down
[19:09] <rhpot1991> corigo: say agian
[19:09] <corigo> when I shut down, the OS closes, and video shuts off, but the machine remains powered up
[19:54] <assco> hi. i am having trouble getting torrentflux running on my system. i have mythbuntu 10.04 installed and i assume it comes with all the dependancies for torrentflux?
[19:56] <rhpot1991> assco: did you install it from apt?
[20:03] <assco> no
[20:03] <assco> downloaded the package etc
[20:03] <assco> its possible from apt?
[20:03] <assco> well i guess it is :D
[20:04] <rhpot1991> if its in there
[20:05] <rhpot1991> if not then you will need to deal with dependencies on your own most likely
[20:05] <assco> yeah got it running
[20:05] <rhpot1991> assco: could use one of the torrent clients that is in apt, like transmission or deluge(my choice)
[20:07] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, iirc, torrentflux has a web interface
[20:08] <rhpot1991> there is something in ubuntu that does too
[20:08] <rhpot1991> I forget what
[20:08] <rhpot1991> maybe it was that, its in apt
[20:09] <rhpot1991> assco: why didn't you isntall it from there?
[20:10] <assco> yeah i got it installed through apt
[20:16] <Azelphur> Daviey: what happened to that mythfrontend update :p
[20:17] <tgm4883> Azelphur, I did it, in the process of testing the packages
[20:17] <tgm4883> want to test them :)
[20:17] <Azelphur> sure I guess :p
[20:17] <Azelphur> I'm having problems with my mythtv frontend playback being a transparent window
[20:17] <Azelphur> so I'd like to update
[20:17] <tgm4883> Azelphur, you are currently on 0.23.0?
[20:18] <Azelphur> yup
[20:18] <tgm4883> ok, give me 5 minutes
[20:24] <tgm4883> Azelphur, ok, it's publishing on this ppa right now  https://edge.launchpad.net/~tgm4883/+archive/testing
[20:24] <Zinn> [edge.launchpad.net] testing : Thomas Mashos
[20:24] <tgm4883> so you may not see the update for a few more minutes
[20:24] <Azelphur> :)
[20:24] <tgm4883> I need to know 2 things
[20:24] <tgm4883> 1) Does it upgrade to these packages with just an "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
[20:25] <tgm4883> 2) what the protocol version the frontend/backend reports
[20:28] <Azelphur> not showing up yet methinks :)
[20:28]  * tgm4883 checks
[20:28] <tgm4883> yea still says it isn't published yet
[20:28] <tgm4883> you can see it here  https://edge.launchpad.net/~tgm4883/+archive/testing/+packages
[20:29] <Zinn> [edge.launchpad.net] Packages in “testing” : testing : Thomas Mashos
[20:29] <tgm4883> if it's published, then it would show in that column
[20:29] <Azelphur> hehe
[20:40] <tgm4883> Azelphur, looks like it published
[20:52] <Azelphur> tgm4883: upgrading :)
[20:56] <Azelphur> tgm4883: seems to work fine, I still have the transparent video problem though :(
[20:56] <Azelphur> anyone got any ideas on that?
[22:26] <tgm4883> Azelphur, you could try 0.23.1 for that
[22:26] <tgm4883> Azelphur, whats the protocol version that mythfrontend reports?
[23:51] <Azelphur> tgm4883: how do I do both? :P