=== fauconoeil is now known as eeg0hz [00:46] what is the command to upgrade my system? [00:46] I have 10.04 but I want to upgrade to kde 4.5 [00:46] I have backports enabled [00:50] ?? === Ginbuntu__ is now known as ginbuntu === root is now known as Guest95077 [01:09] i found my Kubuntu 10.04 disc, if i use that can i upggrade to kde 4.5 or do i have to take all the steps. [01:25] can anybody hell; [01:26] *help [01:26] Im trying to associate activities with virtual desktops [01:26] Im using KDE 4.5 [01:26] It doesn't make any sense at all [01:39] Problem: Dialogs which require elevated privileges no longer respect the widget style; it looks like this: http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/7374/nooxygen.png (lucid KDE 4.5) [01:43] so i've got a bunch of ebooks in epub format. i've upgraded from 4.4.5 to 4.5 and now okular won't open these files. is this just me or is it an okular problem? === xenthral_ is now known as xenthral [04:15] whats this? [05:10] saludos terricolas [05:11] -------------------------------------------- [05:11] ------------------------------------------ [05:11] nova: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:11] ok [05:18] why is firefox so slow? [05:20] Its not. [05:24] . [05:24] . [05:24] . [05:24] HERPADERP: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:28] what are we comparing to? [05:31] Nothing. [05:31] nothing is the slowest man [05:31] no wonder you think firefox is fast :P [05:32] What are you smoking? Firefox and chrome are the only browsers i use. [05:33] Both are reasonably fast, with chrome having a SLIGHT advantage [05:35] cough [05:36] I think the start up difference is huge [05:36] and also javascript on webkit is much faster [05:36] other then that, for regular browsing, the difference is not that big IMHO [05:36] How long does yours take? For chrome its about 3 sec firefox is about 4 [05:36] But browsing is about the same [05:37] real 0m2.771s [05:37] What? Chrome? [05:37] real 0m10.039s [05:37] chrome, firefox [05:38] Wow i can understand now. Whats your specs? [05:38] dual core E2200 [05:39] RAM? [05:39] 3gb [05:39] Hmmm [05:40] Graphics card? or is it onboard? [05:42] GF8800GT [05:43] Well .....Don't know what to tell you ha [05:43] I'm not sure what you're arguing [05:44] I think you'll find massive consensus that chrome is indeed faster than firefox [05:44] how much that actually matters though, up for debate [05:44] My laptop runs fine with kubuntu, its an old toshiba with 3 GB of RAM, and a AMD turion x2 processor [05:44] it all runs fine here for me :) [05:44] Or, not kubuntu specifically, just firefox [05:45] it runs fine, but, chrome runs finer :) [05:45] eh, debatable. [05:45] but hey, firefox or chrome, pick what you're comfortable with [05:45] I still like firebug in firefox [05:45] speed is only one measure of how useful the browser is to you [05:45] yep [05:45] True [05:45] I use it from time to time still [05:46] the dev tools on chrome are pretty good too [05:46] Like for what? HTML editing? [05:47] yeah inspecting the CSS and markup [05:47] firebug I'm more used to when i'm doing any javascript poking around [05:48] Ill give chrome the speed, but firefox IMO has more addons and is more customizable, which might explain why its slow [05:48] But chrome looks nice and simple, i'll give it that [05:50] yeah I dont use addons much [05:50] why I just transitioned to chrome quite easily [05:51] Ever used Opera? Im not to crazy about it. [05:52] *too [05:52] years ago [05:52] before firefox 2.0 was out [05:52] loved the thing but firefox lured me away [05:53] I only ever see it on a friend's computer now, its oddly nostalgic [05:53] haha I've heard its pretty fast === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero [06:16] hello everyone [06:17] i want to change my desktop to look like the desktop of a kubuntu netbook desktop, how to do it [06:17] i like the search and launch functionality [06:56] hola gente [06:59] good morning all. I need a simple way of fusing together a string of photos, with a fade to black, fade in from black changeover from each one. any suggestions on a program that could help? === zhang is now known as Guest26701 === zhang is now known as Guest63257 [07:33] What's this [07:34] !irc [07:34] A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines [07:35] It's an Internet Relay Chat where you can get "direct" help to solve your problems or chat with other kubuntu users. Not every question van be answered within a minute. [07:37] So nice. I just installed KDE on Ubuntu, then find it. [09:02] !netsplit [09:02] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [09:02] !clone [09:02] To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate [09:03] !info mondo [09:03] mondo (source: mondo): powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.2.7-2.1 (lucid), package size 449 kB, installed size 1252 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 all) [09:03] !info mindi [09:03] mindi (source: mindi): creates boot/root disks based on your system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.0.4-1ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 148 kB, installed size 604 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 ia64) [09:04] ^_^ thanks [09:05] they work together to replicate your present install - even let you repartition etc === aperson is now known as APERSON === LjL-Temp` is now known as LjL-Temp === Tm_Tr_ is now known as Tm_Tr === Unksi_ is now known as Unksi === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest69350 === Guest69350 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest45937 === seawolf is now known as Guest59228 === tomsku_ is now known as tomsku === Orion is now known as Guest92157 === Guest45937 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest6059 [11:45] Is there a way to configure panels and widgets with commands instead of GUI? Each boot when changing resolution my panel (1) is too short, and I need to maximize it each time. Can I do this with terminal? [11:45] restart FloodBotK2 === tuos_ is now known as tuos === ryanakca_ is now known as ryanakca === Guest6059 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest3433 === peter___ is now known as polis [12:57] weeweee [12:57] ciao [12:58] hi [12:58] on boot kubuntu [12:58] say to me [12:59] hello everyone [12:59] an error while monuting /media/cdrom0 [12:59] why [13:00] polis: is the cd present in the cd drive [13:01] yes [13:01] op no on bbot [13:01] ops no of boot [13:02] MAY BE THE WRONG fstab [13:02] or point mount [13:02] polis: did you edit the fstab [13:02] no [13:03] !pastebin [13:03] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [13:05] http://paste.ubuntu.com/480392/ [13:05] phoenix__: [13:06] polis: one sec [13:06] ok [13:07] polis: do you have two cd roms [13:07] yes [13:07] sr1 sr0 [13:07] polis: which one is not getting mounted [13:08] do no know [13:08] either [13:08] says me error booth [13:08] an error while monuting /media/cdrom0 [13:08] polis: you enabled the setting to mount the cdroms on startup? [13:09] yesi [13:09] in syetem setting [13:09] polis: ok, wait [13:09] polis: did it ask for the password [13:09] no [13:10] yes passwor [13:10] of the system [13:10] on aplsh screen [13:10] polis: did you enter [13:10] splash* [13:10] yes on splash screen [13:10] polis: the one after logging in [13:10] esxcuse [13:10] me [13:10] do no put [13:11] access automatic [13:11] is set automatically [13:11] escuse me === Mike is now known as Guest82092 [13:12] even in the repo, I failed to mount cd rom error [13:12] polis:can you paste the snapshot of your removable devices setting dialog [13:12] on shell [13:13] where [13:13] ? [13:14] polis: i will tell you something, can you do it [13:14] on software sources? [13:14] polis: goto settings->user management [13:14] ok [13:15] polis: in the user accounts tab select your user name. [13:15] polis: then click modify button [13:15] ok [13:16] polis: goto previliges and groups tab [13:16] ok [13:16] on the groups panel see whether the cdrom is clicked [13:17] polis: on the groups panel see whether the cdrom is checked [13:17] is there [13:18] polis: is it selected [13:18] is marked [13:18] yes [13:19] polis: on the previleges tab is "use CD-ROM and DVD devices " marked [13:19] in marked [13:20] polis: on the previleges tab is "access external devices automatically" marked [13:20] is marked [13:20] polis: also the administer the system [13:21] yes [13:23] all done [13:24] polis: wait [13:25] is that sr0 sr1 is the mount point / media/cdrom0 or / media /cdrom [13:26] polis: run this command "sudo fdisk -l" and paste the output here [13:26] ok [13:26] polis: wait [13:26] ok [13:27] please dont paste it here [13:27] http://paste.ubuntu.com/480401/ [13:27] use pastebin [13:27] ok gnomefreak [13:27] thanks [13:28] ok [13:28] not at all [13:29] polis: backup your fstab file [13:29] ok [13:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/480403/ [13:31] polis: sudo kate /etc/fstab [13:31] ok [13:32] polis: remove the first two lines [13:32] polis: save it [13:32] ok [13:32] do it [13:34] did it [13:36] ok now? [13:38] polis: restart and see if this works [13:38] ok phoenix [13:38] is there a way to search in ppa for specific package ? [13:38] it seems the search page searches only the names of ppa repos [13:39] and descriptions, but not the packages inside === Guest3433 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest93778 === peter____ is now known as polis [13:41] hi [13:41] phoeni x ok [13:42] phonix [13:42] in add repo cd rom [13:42] says me E:Failed to mount the cdrom. [13:43] Howdy [13:44] in software sources [13:44] i want o add cd how repo [13:44] says me E:Failed to mount the cdrom. [13:45] polis: do you have a password [13:45] no [13:45] in synaptic [13:45] yes [13:45] kapachege kit no [13:45] polis: a system wide password [13:46] do not understand [13:46] how passowrd of access is go in auto [13:46] but there is [13:47] in synaptic he asks me passowrd [13:47] polis: when you installed kubuntu, did you set and password [13:47] yes [13:48] with auto access [13:48] howdy, all. After updating to KDE 4.5 I am no longer able to toggle audio between the digital output (speakers) and analog (headphones). Any tips on where I should start to fix this? [13:49] In fact the boot is not asking password [13:49] phoenix__: [13:50] polis: sorry polis, i am not able to help you [13:51] ok [13:51] tnks a lot [13:58] <[mors]> hi folks === cartman is now known as Guest94144 [13:58] <[mors]> how do I disable/hide tray icons ? [13:59] [mors]: hi [13:59] [mors]: you can remove them [14:22] hi..anyone know of a krusader 2.2 deb for 64 bit? i cant seem to find it online anywhere..wierd [14:23] zeltak, nope........ whats that ? [14:24] its a file manager [14:25] the best one for kde imho [14:25] http://www.krusader.org/ [14:26] zeltak: if it's that great then how come no one knows? [14:26] but you? [14:26] :) [14:27] hmmm its pretty famous...u guys really never heard of krusader? [14:27] I use Krusader every day [14:28] zeltak, there is a krusader.org site [14:29] alvin..you use it in kubuntu? did u compile it yourself or used a deb? [14:29] aptitude install krusader [14:29] poseidon2010: see above link to site [14:29] sorry [14:29] It's version 2.0 [14:29] alvin: but thats the 2.0 version which is pretty old by now (ver 2.2 is out) [14:30] btw in an unrelated but very annoying issue..i just swithced back to kubuntu after a year using arch..really impressed with kubuntu but.. [14:30] I try to keep to the default repositories as much as possible, except for the kubuntu backports ppa (and that one gives enough trouble as it is) [14:31] But I might be happy with Krusader 2.2. Let me see if there's already a request to package it. [14:31] my wireless connection is really flaky..keeps loosing connection every 5 minutes [14:31] Kubuntu is quite good with this KDE.... much better than Gnome in Ubuntu [14:32] wired connection works well and i didnt have any issues with wirelss under arch..is that a known issue with 10.04? [14:33] Ah, but Krusader 2.2 is the beta branch. That'll be the reason it's not packaged yet. [14:33] alvin: it been in "beta" for ages...lol..been using it for a few months now and its pretty damm stable :) [14:34] but i see your point [14:34] still its weird i cant find a deb file for it...i hate compiling..lol : [14:34] :) [14:34] alvin: what trouble does the backports repo give you? Just curious [14:36] alvin: apparently krusader 2.2 is available in the debian sid and squeeze repo's [14:36] you could probably get one from there? [14:36] tranquilwaters_: The upgrade itself was flaky (bug 615902), klipper is unusable (bug 616370) and krdc suffers from a bug in QT (bug 614699) Other than that, krunner crashes sometimes out of the blue. [14:36] Launchpad bug 615902 in Kubuntu PPA "Upgrade to KDE SC 4.5 blocked" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615902 [14:36] Launchpad bug 616370 in Kubuntu PPA "Klipper shortcut and usage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616370 [14:36] Launchpad bug 614699 in Kubuntu PPA "Qt 4.7.0 breaks QX11EmbedWidget" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614699 [14:36] not sure about dependencies etc though [14:37] (Akregator and the NFS kioslave are still broken, but that was already the case in all previous versions of KDE4) [14:37] alvin: ok I agree upgrade to 4.5 wasn't perfect. And I still think the klipper icon is wrong [14:37] filed that as minor bug as wel [14:38] klipper has a scissors-icon now, and some other tool 'snippets' has a clipboard icon [14:38] The icon doesn't bother me :-) Its the fact that left-clicking it to select something from the clipboard just doesn't work. Klipper lost its functionality. [14:38] ok [14:38] tranquilwaters_: ive never tried installing debs from debian..wont it frak my system? [14:38] i actually don't use klipper that much [14:38] And krdc is something I use constantly, with several tabs open... [14:39] zeltak: I have no idea XD I never tried either, I just googled for krusader 2.2 x64 deb === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez [14:39] zeltak: and since ubuntu is based on debian... [14:39] zeltak: but I really don't know... maybe someone else knows more about installing debian packages in ubuntu? [14:39] zeltak: It'll probably work well in this case, but debian warns against it in a FAQ. [14:40] yeah i remember once doing that a few years ago and that didnt end welll [14:40] krdc... :S *googles* [14:40] zeltak: http://linuxappfinder.com/package/krusader === Guest93778 is now known as LjL-Temp [14:40] remote desktop, ok yeah I don't use that [14:40] :) === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest63498 [14:41] We warn against it as well, there may or may not be issues in installing packages that were designed for Debian. It all depends on (no pun intended) the package's dependencies, version, install location, etc. [14:41] but i can imagine that might be annoying if you do [14:41] Pici: ok that makes sense, I just looked for deb packages, and only those popped up [14:41] zeltak: you can just install from source I guess? [14:42] zeltak: that is, if you _must_ use 2.2 [14:42] yeah i guess ill do that (from source) [14:42] hey this krusader looks like a remake of MC ...... interesting [14:42] so anyone having issues with wireless in 10.04? i keep loosing my connection every 5 minutes...annoying as hell [14:43] i need to manually press connect again in network manager to get reconnected..anyone have any idea? [14:43] poseidon2010: yeah its like mc (which i also use) but with tons of extra funcionality [14:43] I haven't had any problems with wireless in kubuntu lucid or ubuntu lucid, tried it on two different laptops [14:43] I actually have never experienced wireless problems in Kubuntu, but I don't use wireless that much. There are a lot of messages on the mailing list though. The consensus there is that you should replace network-manager by wicd. (never done that myself) [14:44] I don't like wicd myself [14:44] hmm yeah used wiced a few times [14:44] i preffer netowork manager but i may have no choice here.. [14:44] On the other hand, bug 524454 still exists [14:44] Launchpad bug 524454 in network-manager (Ubuntu Lucid) "Networking is disabled on boot (usually after suspend/hibernate)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524454 === zhang is now known as Guest84904 [14:44] I do have trouble that the network-manager service sometimes dies after a hibernation or empty battery, but that's fixed easily enough [14:45] alvin: yeah that's exactly what I mean [14:45] it's mighty irritating, but not a kde bug. [14:45] but you can get it going again easily enough [14:46] :-( not me. I have to use rescue mode for that. My /home is mounted on NFS... [14:46] although for me in kde only the stop/start service (option 1) works, rebooting does not help, and rightclicking has no options [14:47] hmmm [14:47] has any one used.....FAI with Ubuntu ???? [14:47] k thx guys [14:47] FAI? [14:47] alvin, NM worls much better on lucid than in previous release [14:47] err works [14:48] yes.....I used it in Debian.... allows u to install multiple machines at once.....build clusters and things like that...... say... 80 machines from scratch in 2 mins ... :) [14:48] Might be, but NM didn't give me issues on previous releases and makes my system unbootable on Lucid, so I have another opinion about that. [14:48] alvin, ok , which chip ? [14:49] chip? [14:49] wifi chip, like broadcom or atheros or....? [14:50] Oh, no, it's a wired network. Intel NIC. [14:50] It's just the suspend. pc gets suspended -> NM is disabled at next boot -> /home doesn't get mounted -> time to get into rescue mode [14:51] ok, most ppl nowadays just buse NM or /etc/network/interfaces settings [14:51] !pastebin [14:51] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [14:51] Doesn't trouble me that much /etc/network/interfaces is a good solution here. Upstart is much more irritating during boot. [14:51] buse=use [14:55] zeltak: I see krusader 2.2 (beta) will be in Maverick! (see bug 616392). Maybe you can try that package. [14:55] Launchpad bug 616392 in krusader (Ubuntu) "[Maverick] Krusader_2.2.0-beta1 will sometimes not corectly end" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616392 [14:56] the new kde and gnome desktops/plasma are a bit much for my old desktop-pc , lots of crashes ....xubuntu seems to be the solution altho W7 aeros works fine on the old ati x200m onboard [14:59] otherwise there's also Lubuntu nowadays, and I'm not sure if the fluxbuntu project is still alive? [14:59] Oh, (KDE 4.5) krunner crashing while you type in it. That's annoying. [15:14] !info libata [15:14] Package libata does not exist in lucid [15:18] atalibs maybe, illunatic [15:19] http://paste.ubuntu.com/480444/ [15:19] :D [15:20] !info altalibs [15:20] Package altalibs does not exist in lucid [15:23] alvin: how do you "downgrade" a package from mavrick? [15:23] You can download the deb, and see if the install works :-) (from packages.ubuntu.com) [15:24] kk thx alvin [15:25] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu lucid main [15:26] is this kde 4.5.0 ? [15:29] i think i found the problem. apparently i just attempted to backup my external hdd heh [15:30] what! [15:37] why do I have no shut down options in kubuntu? [15:40] Roasted: Go to System Settings and search for 'session management'. There you can enable the option to offer shutdown options [15:41] alvin, is this a common side effect of installing kubuntu-desktop through ubuntu 10.04? === Guest63498 is now known as LjL-Temp [15:41] wilhart: No, you need the backports repository ($ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports (tip: read bug 615902 first) [15:41] Launchpad bug 615902 in Kubuntu PPA "Upgrade to KDE SC 4.5 blocked" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615902 === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest28122 [15:42] Roasted: Not as far as I know. By default it should be enabled [15:42] Guys, what is the difference b/w RELOAD and RESTART options with SERVICE command , is RELOAD equivalent to process SIGNAL 1 = SIGHUP ( which re-reads daemon config file , instead of restarting it completely ) ??? [15:42] alvin, okay. I'm in Gnome now but I'll write that down and swing over to KDE quick. [15:43] oh also, alvin... do you know how I can get 4.5 on there? [15:43] I tried the PPA but it didnt seem to upgrade it. [15:43] i think i m right ... answer in #UBUNTU [15:45] Roasted: See my answer to wilhart above [15:46] is there a way to --purge who KDE 4.5 install ? [15:46] whole [15:48] alvin, do you call the upgrade command offhand to get it upgraded once that repo is added? [15:49] what package/ppa is needed to make gtk programs use the global menu in KDE? [15:49] Roasted: $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (aptitude will not want to start) [15:49] wilhart: What happened? [15:50] alvin: menubordes are missing [15:51] menuborders? [15:51] wilhart: Are you sure the upgrade went well? [15:52] alvin: yea it went, but i had some kwin-aurorae insted of kde-window-manager ? [15:52] could that be it? [15:52] ok trying now again [15:53] Never heard of it. You can search for bugs here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bugs [16:02] With KDE and Gnome installed side by side, is there any way to prevent KDE-isms from floating over to the Gnome side? Example - Im in Gnome now and I have the KDE mouse cursor... [16:03] !kdebug [16:04] i like to know about kdebug [16:04] how to see the kdebug messags [16:04] *messages [16:08] hi [16:08] hi [16:22] Nice. I have shutdown options enabled in session management - yet they are not listed in my leave menu. Awesome. [16:29] Roasted_: try this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/reset-system-wide-cursor-theme.html [16:32] how do i totally remove kubuntu (kde4) and reinstall it again ? [16:33] wilhart: here I am [16:33] sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop [16:33] ? [16:34] wilhart: yes, but you should run it from a console login [16:34] gcala: i do all apt things in konsole [16:35] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php [16:36] wilhart: in this case isn't a good idea; you have to remove everything, kdm too [16:36] wilhart: he doesn't mean isn't konsole [16:36] wilhart: so netter is logout, from the kdm login screen press the option button and choose "console login" [16:37] gcala: oh [16:37] logout and then do ctrl+alt+f1 to get a tty [16:37] tranquilwaters: it's ok, too [16:38] login there, then do sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop, though maybe remove --purge is necessary, and of course reinstall kubuntu-desktop again [16:38] just be sure that source.list contains the right repos [16:38] and --purge is obbligatory, imho [16:39] yes you might want to check your sourceslists as well [16:40] gcala: ok am in ubuntu now [16:40]