[00:06] It's gonna be an easy one. 5 bugs turns out to be two [00:07] heh [00:07] hmm, probably should have just kept quiet. wrong spirit again [00:08] always the best way round though; 2 turning into 5 is much worse [00:08] true [00:46] has anyone noticed that suspend stopped working after a recent software update? === tremmons is now known as iflema [00:48] can anyone give any advice on this issue? [00:56] anyone here? [00:57] paul__: Is this on lucid? [00:58] yes [00:58] have you any idea which update broke it? [00:59] no, i don't. it was something recent, though. is there any way that i can find that out? [00:59] /var/log/dpkg.log has a list of all package installs/updates [01:01] i am thinking something from around 13 August. [01:02] paul__: Personally I've only got one machine installing Lucid and it was installed in the last few days and suspend still seems OK; however that doesn't help you [01:03] do you think that may have been a kernel update? [01:04] maybe a fresh install is in order then [01:06] if it was a kernel upgrade it sohuld have left the previous one on the grub menu and you should try that [01:07] okay... i will give it a go... thanks for the help, penguin [01:07] no problem [01:12] @penguin42 i booted into the older version of the kernel and suspend is working just fine [01:12] paul_: OK, well that's pretty clear cut [01:12] paul_: Boot back into the failing one and then report the bug using ubuntu-bug [01:13] do it from the failing one because it will collect a load of logs and please make it clear it's a regression in Lucid [01:13] okay... i will do that... thanks again for the assistance [01:15] no prob [01:15] where are you in the UK? [01:16] Manchester [01:16] which kernel version is it that breaks for you? [01:17] 2.6.32-24-generic [01:18] what's the hardware and how exactly does it fail? [01:19] compaq f730us laptop... i shut the lid and it suspends normally, but upon resume it looks to start up but the screen will not turn on and then it power cycles over and over again [01:20] when i did a shut down, it did the same thing [01:21] it's one for the guys who know the suspend code and what changed in the kernel'; 2.6.32-24 is suspend/resuming my eeepc (just tried it) [01:22] okay... then it is something with my specific hardware. [01:22] how can i use ubuntu-bug with no specific package name? [01:22] i am new to bug reporting [01:24] I think if you don't give it a name it will give you a choice of symptoms; however since you know it's the kernel you could do ubuntu-bug linux [01:24] okay... i will try that [01:25] thanks, again === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless === awalton is now known as awalton__ [04:29] Hello everybody, how should I classify a need-packaging bug report that include a repo/PPA for application needing packaging??? [04:29] Example: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/618892 [04:29] Ubuntu bug 618892 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] paramsearch (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [04:31] alucardni: huh? [04:32] alucardni: it's fine, we use source pacakges [04:32] micahg: the bug report says need-packaging, but the package already exists in a repository external to Ubuntu/Debian [04:33] alucardni: right, it needs to be packaged in Ubuntu/Debian [04:34] micahg: ok, but that repo already offer packages for both Ubuntu and Debian. [04:35] alucardni: right, but like I said, we use source packages so everyone has access to the code that made the binaries [04:37] micahg: What is the "protocol" for triaging this kind of bugs?? ;) [04:37] alucardni: same as any other needs packaging [04:40] micahg: in the particular case a mentioned, just add the needs-packaging tag and that's it? [04:40] alucardni: sounds right bdmurray's script will do the rest [04:41] thanks for your help micahg [04:41] alucardni: np [05:57] micahg: how do I know if the work I'm doing with bugs counts for my 5-a-day? :D [05:57] alucardni: any time you touch a bug it counts [05:58] alucardni: you just need an e-mail address visible on launchpad if you want it to show up on the report [06:00] I'm not sure what "an e-mail address visible on launchpad" means :-s I have 3 e-mail addresses on LP right now [06:00] alucardni: you should be ok then [06:02] micahg: ok, thanks again. I was curious about the 5-a-day 'cause I don't see myself on yesterday's report [06:07] alucardni: another thing that sometimes causes confusion is that only bugs with an Ubuntu task are counted towards 5-a-day [06:11] hi [06:12] micahg: wow, strong mail :) [06:12] nigelb: did it sound bad? [06:12] nigelb: maybe this is why I never respond to applications ;) [06:12] nigelb: I tried to keep to the facts [06:13] micahg: A bit strongly worded, yes. But I'm not sure if it was out of line. [06:13] Personally, I think it was fairly okay. [08:24] nigelb: you around mate? re bug 573124 [08:24] Launchpad bug 573124 in cheese (Ubuntu) "Make cheese debugging log attach as a .log file (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/573124 [08:25] kermiac: yep [08:25] hey nigel, how are you going mate? [08:26] kermiac: going good. About to stab google maps thought. [08:26] s/thought/though [08:26] nigelb: make sure you take a very sharp knife hehe [08:26] haha [08:26] anyway, re: the bug [08:26] nigelb: anyway, vish asked me to take a look at the cheese hook & I noticed your last comment to ping you or pitti on how we should best do it [08:27] can you contact pitti? tell him that the log is getting created as a tar automatically and you want to force it to be txt. [08:27] (I don't have the logs of the conversation pitti and I had when I had tried to do this last) [08:27] ok, no probs... I'll go hassle poor pitti ;) [08:27] heh [08:27] ok, thanks nigelb... have fun stabbing google maps mate [08:27] kermiac: heh, thanks for taking over :) [08:28] I'm glad you've become an expert :) [08:28] no probs, apport hooks are something I actually feel comfortable doing :) [08:28] Yeah, we'll slowly drag you to packaging and then you'll end up on the desktop team ;) [08:29] oh noes! don't drag me down nigel hahaha [08:29] haha [08:30] nigelb: but seriously though it's funny you should mention that... I've actually been playing around with packaging a little lately [08:30] kermiac: heh, thats sort of how I started, packing apport hooks and then got dragged on. [08:30] Now I hardly have time for packaging though. [08:31] * micahg needs to write a hook still [08:32] nigelb: it's ok.... if I get too involved I'm totally going to blame you for getting me all excited about writing apport hooks haha [08:42] kermiac: hahaha [08:49] nigelb: should I work on getting bug #395692 into Ubuntu and upstream? [08:49] Launchpad bug 395692 in alacarte (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Drag-and-Drop behavior in the menu editor is inconsistent and confusing (affects: 3) (heat: 29)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395692 [08:49] nigelb: sorry, wrong bug [08:49] hrm? [08:49] nigelb: bug #111939 [08:49] Launchpad bug 111939 in mutter (Ubuntu) (and 5 other projects) "Not possible to alt-tab during a drag-and-drop operation (affects: 15) (dups: 3) (heat: 104)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111939 [08:50] nigelb: your debdiff is waiting there [08:50] vish: what happened to this? I remember you poking didrocks about it... [08:50] nigelb: 'coz the debdiff is somewhat stale now since many new versions of metacity came [08:51] bilalakhtar: if you want to take over and push it, feel free ;) [08:51] vish tested it some time back (when I made it) and it did work [08:51] nigelb: and let you remain as uploader, right? [08:51] bilalakhtar: no, go ahead [08:51] BTW, we need to poke the upstream guys [08:51] (don't use my name, you're doing the work) [08:51] bilalakhtar: upstream seems to just have gotten stagnant on that bug. it probably just needs an update [08:51] bilalakhtar: we don't have uploaders in Ubuntu generally... [08:51] * nigelb hugs vish [08:52] nigelb: didrocks said it was on his list.. [08:52] vish: probably in the end :p [08:52] nigelb: but not sure how long his list is :D [08:52] vish: we're thinking on the same lines :p [08:52] I'm pretty sure his list has been emptied now that he's on vacation.... [08:53] nigelb: heh no! [08:54] nigelb: he still has a long list .. he wanted to get that for Unity as well.. and opened the mutter task, but it is not close to release yet.. [08:55] vish: yeah, its a nifty feature to have. [08:55] compiz doesn't have it either does it? [08:55] nigelb: nope.. [08:55] I do the Always on top thingie to drag-drop. [09:02] nigelb: it works with cairo-dock on compiz. [09:02] not sure how it does though... [09:03] nigelb: not alt+tab , but drag-n-drop [09:04] micahg: ggah! how many ways are there to change a password! :s [09:04] there is another one from "about me" [09:04] vish: that was the 3rd :) [09:04] * micahg really needs to go to sleep [09:06] micahg: http://weebls-stuff.com/songs/Narwhals/ to keep you awake ;p [09:06] vish: saw that about 12 hrs ago [09:07] micahg: now to to keep you awake :p [09:07] vish: I have to be up in less than 6 hrs [09:08] sleep... overrated! [09:08] * micahg thinks we need a override_dh_sleep :) [09:17] bye === dutchie_ is now known as dutchie === MichealH is now known as Guest25300 === maxb_ is now known as Guest7510 === jmarsden is now known as Guest11851 [11:04] I can not run Ubuntu because the system drive is full and there is no free space (version 10.04). I can not login, even with the use of the terminal. [11:17] hello folks, wich is the equivalent of palimpsest in kde ? === head_v is now known as head_victim [12:02] hi :) === tuos_ is now known as tuos [12:16] om26er, hello [12:18] abhijit, hi :) === Guest7510 is now known as maxb === maxb is now known as Guest10006 === ryanakca_ is now known as ryanakca === maxb_ is now known as maxb [13:24] pedro_: hello !! [13:25] njin, hi! [13:28] pedro_: we support backported packages? [13:36] njin, yes, have a look to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports for more info about those [13:37] pedro_: thanks === thekorn is now known as thekorn_ [13:58] anybody else experiecing something similar to bug 610287 on their netbook? [13:58] Launchpad bug 610287 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "[regression] hardware wifi switch kills eth0 as well (affects: 1) (heat: 169)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610287 === JayFo is now known as JFo === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [14:46] hi [15:16] where is omer? [15:16] :( === Guest25300 is now known as michealH === michealH is now known as MichealH [15:30] Hello. I have requested to be part of the Bug Control but I havent gotten a reply? [15:32] MichealH, one of the messages there stated this "I just received a user not found message from my reply for michealh@michealh.co.cc . " [15:32] MichealH, you need to provide a valid email [15:32] It should work. [15:32] * MichealH investigates [15:33] well if you're not getting any reply that's probably why, two members already answered your request [15:38] pedro_, What was the replied? === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] [16:00] MichealH: you should subscribe to the ML [16:00] I looked at the archives [16:00] hggdh: non-members can't subscribe to the bugcontrol ML [16:01] micahg, About the memtoring... [16:01] *mentoring [16:01] micahg: ugh! I forgot about that... [16:04] MichealH: we actually have a bugsquad mentoring team [16:04] * micahg is not running it [16:04] MichealH: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bugsquad-mentorship [16:15] pedro, kamusin: thank you guys, you've done an excellent job on the bug day :) [16:16] nigelb: actually that metacity bug was in a list of bugs i had to to seb128 to review/upload as well.. so would probably be taken care of this cycle [16:16] hey devildante , we have been waiting for you , hugday needs you! [16:16] there's still plenty of bugs waiting ;-) [16:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100819 <- come on folks let's make didrocks happy [16:17] Don't worry guys, I'm on a sweep muhaha :p [16:18] is there a way to test appmenu-gtk on desktop edition? [16:18] oh bug day! [16:19] been a month since i'v done that :( [16:19] * vish looks at banshee bugs :) [16:19] darn it! pedro_ left nothing for us ;p [16:20] vish, no no there's still a lot of white spots there :-) [16:21] \o/ [16:22] vish: kamusin also did a good job :) [16:23] hi devildante [16:24] abhijit: hi :) [16:24] haha pedro, bug eater [16:24] :) [16:24] sorry, i'm an addict :-P [16:32] vish: great :) === SpamapS_ is now known as SpamapS === dougt_ is now known as _6np_ [16:48] njin: hi, are you using bug day tools? === _6np_ is now known as _6np === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck [17:00] vish: no [17:00] vish i don't know this tool [17:01] njin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Tools , if you use that you can easily close bugs.. [17:01] ok, thanks [17:02] njin, as a test, you could close bug 423481, which you marked Incomplete ;) [17:02] Launchpad bug 423481 in banshee (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Banshee refuses to play internet radio stream (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423481 [17:02] devildante: ok [17:09] njin: I don't think bug 550426 is a feature request, since the behavior described also causes issues with syncing. [17:09] Launchpad bug 550426 in banshee (Ubuntu) "Banshee does not tell you when music is unavailable/unmounted (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/550426 [17:11] wow, there's a shot for a clean sweep this bug day [17:12] micahg: Operation Cleansweep, Banshee Edition? :p [17:13] hey [17:14] what we are supposed to do on bug day? :( [17:14] i forgot about today. i just remember [17:14] :( [17:15] devildante: well, we'd have to redefine operation cleansweep for that ;) [17:16] abhijit: triage bugs :) [17:16] micahg, ohh [17:16] abhijit: make the bugday page all green :) [17:16] micahg, but we do that daily? [17:16] abhijit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100819 [17:16] abhijit: each tuesday [17:16] devildante: Thursday :), when someone organizes it [17:17] i meant thursday [17:17] micahg: :p [17:17] devildante, no i mean we do triage bug daily. then whats the difference in bug day? [17:17] abhijit: its when we focus on a package. [17:17] abhijit: it let us concentrate on a specific package [17:17] * nigelb ^5 devildante :) [17:18] nigelb, devildante ohhhh okk [17:18] micahg: did you sleep in between or are you a bot (which we all fear :p) [17:18] to have a specific target (bugs w/out a package or with a patch are not packages) :) [17:18] argh, nigelb beat me to a pulp :p [17:18] * micahg answers questions randomly at all hours [17:18] devildante: haha [17:19] nigelb: about 5 hrs... [17:20] micahg: oh, that's good enough :) [17:20] * nigelb hugs micahg :) [17:20] * micahg learned from persia at UDS about not sleeping :) [17:24] micahg: persia not sleeping is a myth. [17:25] nigelb: I know :) [17:25] what is that myth? === easter_egg is now known as easter_egg|off [18:00] \o/ used my first double dup \o/ [18:01] wow, thats makes life so much more easier! [18:01] what is double dup? [18:02] vish, ? [18:02] abhijit: launchpad now allows marking a bug as a duplicate of another bug, which is a duplicate [18:02] abhijit: are you subscribed to the bugsquad mailing list? [18:02] or that ;-) [18:03] :) [18:03] vish, yes [18:04] abhijit: ah, see bd-murray's latest mail.. :) [18:04] vish, ok [18:14] devildante: damn you! i was just 50secs late :? [18:14] vish: muhaha :p bug 534079? [18:14] Launchpad bug 534079 in language-pack-gnome-it (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "volume applet options are not translated in italian (regression from 9.10) (affects: 1) (heat: 22)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/534079 [18:14] fail [18:14] bug 537940 [18:14] Launchpad bug 537940 in linux (Ubuntu) "[RESUME 16.288s] WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.32/kernel/power/suspend_test.c:53 suspend_test_finish+0x89/0x90() (affects: 11) (heat: 32)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/537940 [18:14] lol! [18:14] fail again :p [18:14] devildante: double fail! [18:15] bug 537049 [18:15] Launchpad bug 537049 in transmission (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Indicator menus should not use icons except for dynamic objects (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/537049 [18:15] VICTORY! [18:18] hello i receive just this (hugday init --user fabiomarconi --wiki-id FabioMarconi --cookie /proc/6210/fd/41/cookies.sqlite) You are not allowed to change the content of 'https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100708'. Plase run 'hugday init' and try again. [18:18] njin: wiki-id is supposed to be the contents of the MOIN_ID cookie [18:19] why 08/07 [18:19] njin: can you run "hugday current"? [18:19] ok [18:20] done [18:21] njin: what's the output? [18:21] devildante: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100819 [18:22] devildante: now i've to found the cookie in FF [18:22] njin; now, run "hugday current --remember" [18:23] devildante: done [18:24] njin: now run "hugday init --user fabiomarconi --cookie XXX", where XXX is the path to your mozilla cookies.sqlite [18:24] devildante: ok [18:25] njin: for me, it's ~/.mozilla/firefox/e8bqdtch.default/cookies.sqlite , but it will certainly be different for you, just search for it ;) [18:26] devildante: TypeError: Error while trying to read cookie in sql format, cannot handle format of '/proc/6210/fd/41/cookies.sqlite' [18:27] njin: what is the output of "~/.mozilla/firefox" for you? [18:27] ls ~/.mozilla/firefox, I mean [18:27] i haven't .mozilla [18:29] njin: do you run firefox? [18:30] devildante: yes, mozilla firefox [18:30] i use Lucid [18:33] devildante. using search tool for cookies.sqlite the only that found is in /proc [18:33] hmm [18:34] devildante and if i close the FF it delete, the path but it's not allowed to do [18:34] devildante: launch time, bbl [18:37] njin: open the firefox cookies window, and search for the wiki.ubuntu.com cookie [18:39] everyone: any reason why bug 410763 doesn't have an expiration countdown? [18:39] Launchpad bug 410763 in banshee (Ubuntu) "[karmic] Banshee freeze after some song playback (affects: 3) (heat: 22)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/410763 === astralja1a is now known as astraljava [18:47] Does incomplete us the countdown? [18:48] charlie-tca: yes, it triggers the countdown [18:48] * charlie-tca slaps head... I knew that [18:49] charlie-tca: well, "us" isn't very comprehensive, I think :p [18:49] Well, that was not the best question I have asked :-( [18:49] you are right! I did mean "use" [18:50] yes, it uses it, but this bug is not [18:56] hmm, I wonder if the remote bug watch has anything to do with that? [18:57] I don't really know, but that is one possibility [18:58] why doesn't it show at the top? [19:01] devildante: i found it, but no path associated in everyone of the 5 cookies [19:01] It was never added as an upstream bug. Launchpad will pick it up automatically from scanning the report. [19:01] njin: did you connect to the wiki? [19:01] devildante. yes, i'm logged [19:02] charlie-tca: I just removed it, and the countdown begun! ;) [19:02] Great. [19:02] njin: is there a MOIN_SESSION cookie? [19:02] charlie-tca: should I re-add it? [19:02] yes [19:02] Not unless someone verified it really is valid for this bug [19:03] Sense in his comments just asked for someone to check and see if it applied [19:04] njin: now, replace XXX with the MOIN_SESSION cookie contents [19:05] charlie-tca: so, it should be marked as Confirmed? [19:05] Is that upstream valid for it? [19:05] I didn't read through all the comments [19:06] I just looked for reasons there was no countdown [19:08] Looks to me like it should have been confirmed and that gnome bug is the upstream bug for it [19:08] comment #6 [19:10] http://people.canonical.com/~brian/complete-graphs/banshee/plots/banshee-1day-triaging.png <- OMG! [19:10] that's looking *amazing* thanks folks! [19:10] * pedro_ hugs the bugsquad [19:10] pedro_: that's why I said we have a chance at a clean sweep, the day is young still [19:11] micahg, indeed ;-) [19:12] thank you, pedro :) [19:12] charlie-tca: done :) [19:12] * devildante hugs everyone [19:13] Thank you, devildante [19:13] charlie-tca: np ;) [19:18] devildante: sorry, i try antother day. [19:18] pedro_: [19:18] pedro_: around [19:18] njin: can I close your bugs on the bug day list, then? [19:19] devildante: yes [19:19] devildante: the hugday tools let you close with someone else's nick [19:19] micahg: --user? [19:20] devildante: yeah, you can pass another name to put on the hugday page [19:20] micahg: okay, thx :) [19:21] help i don't know at wich package assign this https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/430505 [19:21] Launchpad bug 430505 in ubuntu "MCP61 (rev a2) Ethernet card with mirror-inverted Mac adress! (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] [19:21] network manager? [19:26] * penguin42 looks [19:27] njin: linux [19:27] njin: It's more likely a device driver screw up [19:27] njin: I also think it's linux [19:29] almost feels like a manufacturing screw up when they programmed the proms [19:31] penguin42, devildante : thanks [19:31] njin: np ;) === EricJ_ is now known as EricJ [19:35] only 10 new bugs remaining! keep it up, guys! :) === ivoks is now known as ivoks-away [19:37] devildante: more than 10 left [19:37] + 2 incomplete + 2 confirmed... That makes a total of only 14! [19:38] micahg: I meant bugs marked as "new" [19:38] devildante: 13 new bugs :) [19:39] 1's an MIR so that won't count [19:39] I'm counting 10 [19:39] devildante: I'm looking on LP :) [19:40] micahg: I'm looking on the bug day page [19:40] micahg: that's the main objective ;) [19:56] micahg: how do we change the pword from console? [19:56] vish: passwd [19:57] * vish tries [19:58] micahg: hmm , i dont get a prompt to run it as sudo? i just get "You must choose a longer password" [19:59] vish: That'll be changing your password [19:59] vish: for your own password? [19:59] yeah.. [19:59] vish: You don't need root [19:59] vish: anyone can change their own password [19:59] vish: yes, you just asked how to change your own password, not how to set any arbotrary passwd [19:59] vish: to set it to anything, sudo passwd USERNAME [20:00] micahg: i dont want to change.. :) i want to test where you got the prompt to run as sudo? :) [20:00] micahg: btw, how do i quit those continuous prompts? [20:00] vish: why should you be prompted to run as sudo? [20:01] vish: what continuous prompts? [20:01] micahg: hmm , wasnt that what you said yesterday? that it mentions to run as sudo? [20:01] vish: Ctrl-c [20:01] yeah, that doesnt do it.. [20:01] vish: to set any passwd, yes [20:01] vish: you need to ctrl-c a 2 or 3 times [20:02] bah, i broke something in my ctrl+c .. there is some problem there , i had same problem when doing a gdb :s [20:04] vish: Broke something? [20:05] yeah.. for some reason i thought having a consistent ctrl+c[copy] everywhere would be nice! [20:05] doh! [20:05] then when i reverted it does not allow me to quit always :/ [20:06] ah, blocking ctrl-c in a shell would be bad [20:06] vish: ctrl-d or period will sometimes stop continous prompts [20:07] ctrl-d is also logout though, so be careful ;-) [20:07] ooh! dint know that one.. for next time :) [20:07] vish: depends on the situation/app. [20:07] if my ctrl+c doesnt work, i just use the metacity close :D [20:08] charlie-tca: is bug 620399 dublicate of bug 620371 ? one is about if using xscreensaver other is if disabling xscreensaver [20:08] Launchpad bug 620399 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "xfce4-power manager Monitor doesnt go to sleep and off mode if Disabling xscreensaver (dup-of: 620371)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620399 [20:08] Launchpad bug 620371 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "xfce4-power manager Monitor doesnt go to sleep and off mode if Using xscreensaver (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620371 [20:08] mrand: ah ok .. will try to remember.. thanks :) [20:08] i have to format up my /home .. [and probably use btrfs] all these old crufts are killing me :/ [20:09] brave :-) [20:09] heh , they say its stable and meego uses it already by default? [20:12] micahg: re: the password bug .. i'm confused now.. i wanted to test the bug we saw yesterday. and wanted to see what prompt we get when we choose an insecure pword from a console and see if we are provided with info to run as root to change the password [20:13] micahg: i thought you mentioned we get prompted to run it as sudo , or were you just informing that we can run as sudo to change? [20:14] or to override that prompt.. [20:14] vish: informing [20:14] ah! [20:14] vish: root is all powerful :) [20:14] heh! :D [20:15] micahg: oh well , i dont see what/where we can make it better! i thought you said the console gives more info.. since the gui doesnt we could improve the prompt.. but :( [20:16] boo security! ;p [20:16] vish: the only place it might be appropriate to change is users and groups since that's run as root [20:17] but a user's own password, idk about that [20:17] vish: maybe a GUI to set PAM policy? [20:17] micahg: hasnt that been switched to policykit too? [20:17] vish: maybe, I never use it... [20:17] yeah , we get the policykit prompt for authentication.. [20:20] micahg: hehe , GUI for pam policy ;p [20:21] there is a bug about that somewhere though [20:36] I have a bug with gnome-themes (clearlooks and high contrast inverse) where some icons do not load in software center. Should I forward it upstream or are the icons used in software center Ubuntu specific and should be added by Ubuntu developers? [20:40] bbordwell: Bug #556335 [20:40] bdmurray, looks like your script tagged an screenshot as a patch, bug 620436 [20:40] Launchpad bug 556335 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Icons not displayed when using certain icon themes (affects: 6) (dups: 2) (heat: 61)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/556335 [20:40] Launchpad bug 620436 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "All title bars not properly show (with a white dot-line) when extra visual effects were selected (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620436 [20:41] pedro_: easy bug to review! :D [20:41] lol [20:42] vish, thanks [20:42] np.. [20:47] pedro_: its because the reporter said it was a patch ;-) [20:48]