[01:12] <doctormo> pleia2: Did you see the correction posted to the blog?
[01:12] <doctormo> "accessable user support" -> "accessible user support"
[01:12] <pleia2> doctormo: yeah, I didn't get to the copy shop yet so it's all good
[01:12]  * pleia2 stuck at work saving a server :\
[01:13] <doctormo> pleia2: Server Heroine away!
[01:16]  * pleia2 eyeroll at "omg linux picnic" guy
[01:16] <pleia2> and commented
[01:16] <doctormo> pleia2: linky?
[01:16] <doctormo> Oh on my blog
[01:16] <pleia2> yeah
[01:16] <pleia2> Linux Picnic is slightly older than Ubuntu ;)
[01:16] <doctormo> Heh, I wasn't quite sure what he was going on about since I didn't mention it.
[01:19] <doctormo> He was referencing something that wasn't even there I guess.
[01:19] <doctormo> pleia2: It's next week right?
[01:20] <pleia2> this saturday
[01:20] <pleia2> he was referencing "linux picnic" in my comment
[01:21] <doctormo> pleia2: OK, can you let me know how the highly ubuntu branded flyer/poster I made goes down with the fedora table? I want to see if this is just an east coast thing.
[01:21] <pleia2> doctormo: I'm buddies with the local Fedora guys, but I'll ask them for their worst :)
[01:24] <doctormo> pleia2: thanks :-)
[01:32] <duanedesign> \5
[01:32] <duanedesign> ugh
[02:09] <nigelb> nhandler: thanks :)
[02:52] <jcastro> OWEEEEEEE
[02:53] <nigelb> jc
[02:53] <jcastro> woo new tattoo!
[02:53] <nigelb> jcastro: photo?
[02:53] <jcastro> working on it
[02:53]  * nigelb didn't think jcastro was the tattoo kinda guy :p
[02:57] <nhandler> jcastro: What is it of?
[02:57] <jcastro> a dinosaur
[02:58] <nigelb> pleia2: what where?
[02:58] <pleia2> hm?
[02:58] <nigelb> the comment....
[03:02] <pleia2> oh, I said I was printing out doctormo's flier for the linux picnic, a commenter complained that it was called "linux picnic" rather than "ubuntu picnic"
[03:02] <pleia2> didn't realize that linuxpicnic.org was a Famous Thing, I guess
[03:03] <nigelb> AH.
[03:03] <jcastro> http://picasaweb.google.com/jorge.castro/Archaeopteryx
[03:03] <jcastro> tada!
[03:04] <nigelb> jcastro: SWEET!
[03:04] <nigelb> jcastro: some day we'll have aching archeopteryx ;)
[03:06] <nhandler> jcastro: Very nice
[05:26]  * nigelb does happy dance
[05:26] <nigelb> I might get my passport on time after all.
[05:38] <Pendulum> nigelb: oh?
[05:55] <nigelb> Pendulum: the police called me
[05:55] <nigelb> which means things are moving fast.
[05:55] <nigelb> once I go and verify things and um..err bribe them...
[05:55] <nigelb> Just had great fun.
[05:55] <nigelb> I called mom and told her "the police called me"
[05:56] <nigelb> the malyalam for "called me" is very similar sounding to "caught me"
[05:56] <nigelb> She got worried and a bit scared at first.
[07:45] <dholbach> good morning
[07:58] <dholbach> hey kim0
[07:58] <kim0> dholbach: hey there
[07:58] <kim0> howdy all
[07:59] <nigelb> morning kim0 :)
[08:00] <kim0> morning nigelb ... how's it going
[08:01] <nigelb> Today is marginally better than yesterday.  My passport renewal application is proceeding fast :)
[08:01] <kim0> Yaay :)
[08:28] <nigelb> morning dpm :)
[08:29] <dpm> good morning nigelb :)
[08:29] <dpm> good morning all
[09:38] <dholbach> hey popey
[09:41] <nigelb> good morning popey :)
[09:49] <popey> hullooo!
[10:28] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:29] <nigelb> morning czajkowski :)
[11:29] <czajkowski> any wiki experts around
[11:29] <czajkowski> trying to create a table with 3 columns
[11:29] <dholbach> || A || B || C ||
[11:29] <czajkowski> and in the first row I want to add content across all 3 columns as it's to fill that whole row, but it keeps thinking it's just one cell
[11:30] <dholbach> ||<-3> content across 3 rows ||
[11:30] <dholbach> (at least I think that's how it works)
[11:30] <dholbach> I always look it up on the release schedule pages
[11:30] <czajkowski> ahhh was looking for an example
[11:30] <czajkowski> thanks dholbach
[11:31]  * czajkowski hugs dholbach 
[11:31] <dholbach> yep
[11:31] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule?action=raw
[11:31]  * dholbach hugs czajkowski back
[11:31] <dholbach> time to take the dog for a walk - see you later :)
[11:31] <czajkowski> toodles
[11:31] <dholbach> czajkowski, and thanks for the cleansweep blog entry
[11:31] <dholbach> :)
[11:32] <czajkowski> np
[11:38] <popey> \o/ toodles
[11:40] <czajkowski> gah doku wiki syntax is confusing
[11:40] <_doctormo> czajkowski: Yea
[11:40] <_doctormo> Morning Aloha and Salam czajkowski
[11:41] <czajkowski> ^ Time ^ Room 1 ^ Room 2 ^ Room 3 ^
[11:41] <czajkowski> ^ 10:00 am ^ Welcome to OSSBarcamp  ^
[11:41] <czajkowski> ^10:15am ^ Stefano Zacchiroli Debain derivatives        ^
[11:41] <czajkowski> so I want the 2nd and 3rd  lines to span across under the 1st under a table
[11:43] <nigelb> | 10:00 am | Welcome to OSSBarcamp  |||
[11:44] <nigelb> czajkowski: try ^^
[11:47] <_doctormo> Wflr, that's one hell of a design gone bad.
[11:48] <nigelb> wflr?
[11:49] <czajkowski> nigelb: got it thanks it's still ^^
[11:49] <czajkowski> but great :)
[11:51] <nigelb> \o/
[11:51] <nigelb> linky?
[11:57] <czajkowski> http://ossbarcamp.com/timetable
[11:58] <nigelb> Nice :)
[12:03] <czajkowski> yup
[12:03] <czajkowski> it;s the 4th one, so less nervous,
[12:03] <nigelb> heh :)
[12:04] <czajkowski> less, not totally, there is still always the panic of will people talk, I know folks turn up, there is promise of beer and food, but I want them talking :)
[12:04] <nigelb> haha
[13:44] <paultag> We should come up with an Ubuntu hand signal. Sometimes, I see people I think use Ubuntu, and I never say anything
[13:51] <ara> paultag, do you have a uradar?
[13:52] <paultag> ara: hehe, yup. I've never been too far off yet
[14:46] <_doctormo> paultag: Shouldn't that be: "An Ubuntu fist bump"?
[14:46] <paultag> _doctormo: no clue, we need to figure something out
[14:56] <jcastro> http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/977240439/developers-with-feet-in-debian-and-ubuntu
[14:56] <jcastro> !
[14:56] <jcastro> _62_!
[14:59] <paultag> jcastro: I don't count :(
[14:59] <jcastro> not yet anyway
[14:59] <paultag> :P
[15:00] <jcastro> JFo: hey kernel bug man
[15:01] <jcastro> JFo: do you specifically look at bugs which are resolved upstream in kernel bugzilla but still open in ubuntu?
[15:01] <jcastro> (assuming remote watches are working)
[15:01] <jcastro> (and that there is a bugzilla bug to begin with)
[15:02] <JFo> jcastro, I have not been but I do plan/need to
[15:03] <jcastro> JFo: let me know how useful that becomes
[15:03] <JFo> that is on the list of things I need to start doing religiously
[15:03] <JFo> I certainly will
[15:03] <JFo> right now I am working up the plan for dealing with bugs with patches
[15:03] <jcastro> I am wondering if they will indeed be low hanging fruit or just a dream
[15:03] <JFo> I'm thinking in their current state most will not be terribly useful
[15:04] <JFo> I suspect a cross section will be useful
[15:04] <JFo> but the overall majority may just be bugs that are stagnant
[15:04] <JFo> rather upstream stagnant bugs
[15:05] <JFo> I still see tons of bugs in the unknown state
[15:05] <jcastro> I am more interested in "bugs fixed before our freeze" that we know for sure we're not shipping
[15:05] <jcastro> maybe
[15:05] <JFo> ah, I see
[15:05] <jcastro> yeah, stupid broken tracker
[15:05] <jcastro> ideally you'd be able to just search for "fixed upstream and not in ubuntu"
[15:05] <JFo> yeah. I'm sure I can build a search
[15:05] <jcastro> you don't need to
[15:05] <JFo> I'll put it in the wiki too once I get the work I'm on now done
[15:06] <jcastro> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+upstreamreport
[15:06] <jcastro> hmm, maybe we need a new column
[15:06] <jcastro> dude I can't believe you're almost down to 4000!
[15:06] <JFo> :-)
[15:06]  * JFo is a demon
[15:09] <jcastro> I was thinking "hoss"
[15:10] <JFo> heh
[15:14] <czajkowski> jcastro: deadly ink
[15:14] <jcastro> ta
[15:14] <jcastro> I am not even bleeding all over the place!
[15:14] <paultag> 'tis a flesh wound!
[15:15] <czajkowski> jcastro: take long?
[15:16] <jcastro> 3.5 h
[15:17] <czajkowski> not bad
[15:41] <doctormo> Man, drawing faces that resemble people is hard
[15:42] <doctormo> I think I'm going to try measuring.
[15:45] <cjohnston> doctormo: are you trying to draw me?
[15:46] <doctormo> cjohnston: I just can't get your chest right, too many anime girls infecting my art.
[15:46] <cjohnston> lol
[15:47] <doctormo> cjohnston: What are you working on today?
[15:48] <cjohnston> prolly a nap and some ld stuff
[15:48] <cjohnston> which reminds me
[15:48] <cjohnston> i had another gc issue
[15:48] <cjohnston> didnt check to see if theres a bug tho
[15:48] <cjohnston> lol
[15:54] <cjohnston> doctormo: fetch branch > merge in (after changing branch.conf) > revert changes > update: Bazaar Error Working tree /path/ has uncommitted changes.
[15:54] <doctormo> cjohnston: Sounds like the revert didn't work, can you check on the command line?
[15:55] <cjohnston> youll have to tell me how again
[15:55] <cjohnston> :-/
[16:03] <paultag> Hey, jcastro, do we have a MIA team for Ubuntu?
[16:03] <jcastro> I think LP handles that
[16:04] <paultag> Humm
[16:04] <paultag> yeah, guess it does
[16:05] <paultag> Wonder if we could do something nifty with ubot2 / loco bots, and create a DB of "heartbeat"
[16:05] <paultag> MLs too
[16:06] <paultag> just snag any nick that matches ubuntu/member/$1, and log it as activity for lp:~$1
[16:06] <paultag> or $1@ubuntu.com
[16:16] <doctormo> cjohnston: bzr status
[16:16] <jono> hi all
[16:17] <doctormo> jono: Hey welcome to the Ubuntu community ;-)
[16:23] <jcastro> hey jono
[16:23] <jcastro> now that you are here
[16:23] <jcastro> I can announce something I've wanted to say my whole life that I will finally be able to realize today.
[16:24] <jcastro> a dream.
[16:24] <jcastro> <--- Off to lunch to go hang out with Dave Mustaine, be back in a bit.
[16:24] <jono> doctormo, ?
[16:25] <jono> jcastro, haha, enjoy!
[16:25] <akgraner> jcastro, have fun!  that's awesome...
[16:25] <doctormo> jono: Are you out from under your crunch?
[16:27] <jono> doctormo, nearly :-)
[16:30] <doctormo> jono: Thoughts on poster?
[16:31]  * czajkowski goes back to banging her head with inkscape stuid vecotors
[16:31] <jono> doctormo, you mailed me about this right?
[16:32] <doctormo> jono: Nope, on the planet and in here only.
[16:32] <paultag> +1 czajkowski
[16:33] <doctormo> czajkowski: what are you trying trying to do and can I help at all?
[16:33] <jono> doctormo, didnt see it
[16:34] <doctormo> jono: http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/en/material/poster/reasons-love-ubuntu
[16:35] <jono> doctormo, looks awesome :)
[16:36] <nigelb> jcastro: hahaha
[16:36] <pleia2> doctormo: oops, got it printed with the "intergration typo" - no one will notice :)
[16:36] <pleia2> fixed accessible though
[16:37] <pleia2> jono: you coming down to the big linux picnic on saturday? (19th year!)
[16:38] <doctormo> pleia2: Did you get my email with the leafy design of ubuntu women?
[16:38] <pleia2> doctormo: yeah, thanks :)
[16:38] <pleia2> doctormo: when we get them printed, do you need us to retain the copyright notice?
[16:39] <jono> pleia2, this sat?
[16:39] <pleia2> and we haven't gotten t-shirt quotes yet, time seems to be lacking
[16:39] <pleia2> jono: yep http://www.linuxpicnic.org/twiki/bin/view/Picnix19/
[16:40] <pleia2> ubuntu has two tables
[16:40] <jono> pleia2, ahhh bummer I will be in Vegas this weekend
[16:40] <jono> have fun though!
[16:41] <pleia2> woo Vegas :)
[16:41] <nigelb> (as though being in Vegas isn't fun enough)
[16:41] <akgraner> pleia2, do you want the contact for the people who print the shirts for Linux New Media?
[16:42] <pleia2> akgraner: I'm trying to get someone else on the team to take a lead, I'm pretty swamped
[16:43] <akgraner> pleia2, okie dokie just thought I would offer :-)
[17:01] <dholbach> ok my friends - I'm calling it a day - see you tomorrow!
[17:01]  * dholbach hugs you all
[17:01] <JFo> bye dholbach :)
[17:01] <dholbach> bye JFo! :)
[17:01]  * JFo hugs dholbach 
[17:02]  * dholbach hugs JFo back
[17:02] <dholbach> bye!
[19:21] <jcastro> akgraner: what topic should I do?
[19:22] <akgraner> maco, is doing the Ubuntu Development Process, David is doing Ubuntu on Arm QA the Ohio LoCo Team (someone) will do LoCo FAQ's and how to get involved...so - what fits in with all that you would like to talk about :-)
[19:23] <akgraner> jcastro, Ubuntu Community Team - our secret to herding cats. :-)
[19:23] <akgraner> catnip :-P
[19:24] <jcastro> akgraner: let's do "Low Hanging Fruit - Getting Started"
[19:24] <jcastro> and I'll put something together
[19:25] <jcastro> bugs, cleansweep, etc.
[19:25] <akgraner> jcastro, alrighty :-)  you had to say low hanging fruit...:-P
[19:25] <jcastro> I did!
[19:25] <akgraner> oh the mental images I am having  - thanks man
[19:25]  * paultag facepalm
[19:26] <akgraner> paultag, what???  I didn't say what the images were :-P
[19:26] <jcastro> ok fine fine
[19:26] <jcastro> do like "Getting involved in Ubuntu is Hard, and 34957345 other myths about contribution"
[19:26] <akgraner> jcastro, no it's cool I like the title
[19:26] <paultag> akgraner: :P
[19:26] <jcastro> or something
[19:27] <akgraner> I was just giving you a hard time
[19:28] <maco> jcastro: be careful we don't overlap too much :P
[19:28] <jcastro> maco: I'll do a bunch of low hanging fruit, like, as an intro to yours
[19:28] <maco> are you the 2-oclock-ish one?
[19:28] <jcastro> akgraner: actually, if you put me in the beginning I can help intro people to the different subjects
[19:29] <maco> cuz thatd work out really well...
[19:29] <akgraner> jcastro, I'll go with low hanging fruit b/c I am sure no one (thank goodness) thinks like I do
[19:29]  * nigelb yawns.
[19:29] <nigelb> What are you folks talking about?
[19:29] <maco> oh! good friday's speakers are up
[19:29] <maco> nigelb: olf
[19:29] <akgraner> jcastro, you are the second talk
[19:29] <akgraner> Bethlynn is 1st with Bug #1
[19:30] <nigelb> maco: Aha.  I thougght you were all gonna podcast with akgraner and JFo
[19:30] <nigelb> (which would be awesome IMHO)
[19:30] <akgraner> nigelb, oh good idea
[19:30] <jcastro> akgraner: perfect, I will act as a little intro to each area then
[19:30] <akgraner> jcastro, perfect!!!
[19:30]  * nigelb goes back to sleep
[19:30] <jcastro> go team!
[19:30] <akgraner> and Thank you!
[19:30] <akgraner> jcastro, was it an awesome lunch?
[19:31]  * maco does math and staggers
[19:31] <jcastro> yes it was
[19:31] <akgraner> did you take pictures?  are you going to blog about it?
[19:31] <jcastro> tacos and megadeth
[19:31] <maco> fully > 1/3 of speakers at olf this year are women
[19:31] <jcastro> I am uploading the pics as we speak!
[19:31] <akgraner> maco, :-)
[19:31] <nigelb> maco: w00t w00t.
[19:31] <akgraner> jcastro, awesome!!!
[19:31] <maco> (not counting panels, for which individual names arent listed)
[19:33] <maco> oh um thats not counting the ubucon either. im not sure if it should be included in the numbers...
[19:37] <jcastro> http://lucidfox.org/posts/view/607
[19:37] <jcastro> WOOT
[19:38] <jcastro> that new indicator is looking hot
[20:01] <jcastro> jono: http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/978281973/meeting-mustaine
[20:01] <jono> jcastro, sweeeet!
[20:03] <scott-work> jcastro: that's awesome!   the security guy behind dave looks a bit scary
[20:04] <jcastro> he was pretty huge
[20:04] <jcastro> I felt so dumb talking to him
[20:04] <czajkowski> think my arms are about to fall off me from the weights tonight, evil fitness instructor did re assessment and increased all of them ouches
[20:04] <jcastro> like, as soon as I said "I've been a fan for my entire adult life" he looked at me and I could sense him thinking "man, we're OLD."
[20:04] <jono> jcastro, hehe I know what you mean, meeting your hero is tough like that
[20:04] <jono> what do you say?
[20:05] <jono> hehe
[20:05] <jono> cool :)
[20:05] <jcastro> I tried not to sound like one of those drooling fan boys
[20:05] <jcastro> but it's tough, because it's like man when I was an awkward teenager this stuff guided me and all that
[20:05] <scott-work> lol, yeah like, "do you know how much you've meant to me in my life!?!?"
[20:05] <jcastro> hah
[20:06] <jcastro> I was expecting much less people, there were at least 200+ people there
[20:06] <jono> thats awesome
[20:06] <jcastro> I was hoping to like, chat with him about stuff, talk about SF and music, etc.
[20:06] <jcastro> I even had one of the SF stickers
[20:06] <jcastro> it's like, he would totally be on our side when it comes to the record industry right? :)
[20:10] <jono> jcastro, you are a dude
[20:10] <jono> I imagine he would think that the record industry sucks
[20:10] <jcastro> jono: I would have worn the shirt but you got trumped by megadeth
[20:10] <jono> particularly as he was screwed by Capitol
[20:10] <jono> jcastro, totally understand, dude
[20:10] <jono> it was *your* moment
[20:10] <jcastro> I was reading part of the book in line
[20:10] <jcastro> man, there is some SERIOUS craziness in there
[20:11] <jono> haha I can imagine
[20:21] <scott-work> i'm going to get his book this weekend, methinks
[20:30] <scott-work> jono: have you considered doing some metal drumming for other's music?
[20:30] <scott-work> just the one-off every now and then
[20:37] <jono> scott-work, not really, could be fun :)
[20:39] <jcastro> is sense on holiday?
[21:19] <jcastro> hey johhny depp!
[21:21] <doctormo> czajkowski: night!
[21:36] <jcastro> anyone know if forums mods are held to the leadership CoC?
[21:38] <jcastro> Technoviking: ^
[22:13] <czajkowski> jcastro: I'd assume so
[22:13] <czajkowski> the same way folks are on IRC or on mailing lists
[22:13] <jcastro> k
[22:14] <pleia2> jcastro: "We expect anybody who takes on a leadership role to meet this higher standard of conduct."
[22:14] <pleia2> leadership is not so scrictly defined
[22:14] <pleia2> pretty much anyone in leadership anywhere
[22:15] <pleia2> doesn't have to be on boards, councils, etc
[22:15] <czajkowski> aye the leadership is a bit iffy and does derterin if a leader or someone who leads an area within ina team.
[22:15] <czajkowski> so say a web admin or mailing list admin
[22:15]  * pleia2 nods
[22:16] <pleia2> but the first and second paragraph of the LCoC does set down some criteria
[22:16] <pleia2> er, second really
[22:16] <czajkowski> *nods*
[22:17] <nhandler> czajkowski: Well, most people "lead an area within a team".
[22:17] <czajkowski> nhandler: some do many dont
[22:17] <nhandler> czajkowski: True (especially in the loco communities)
[22:17] <czajkowski> yup
[22:18] <czajkowski> exactly
[22:18] <jcastro> I know one place I plan to lead right now
[22:18] <jcastro> to my car and to go see Megadeth and Slayer
[22:18] <jcastro> talk to you all tomorrow!
[22:19] <nhandler> Bye jcastro
[22:19] <nhandler> czajkowski: But I would definitely say that people who lead as part of a team are held to it. For instance, I would expect the CC to be held to it (even though they lead as part of that team)
[22:20] <czajkowski> jcastro: have fun
[22:21] <czajkowski> nhandler: oh I agree
[22:43] <akgraner> nhandler, hey just sent you an email about the plugin for wordpress...:-)  I have to step away for a few and go pick my daughters friend but should be back in like an hour ... no worries if you can't look at it today - just wanted you in the loop...
[22:44] <nhandler> :)