[00:06] dakar: Thanks for that script. It looks quite simple. [00:16] ChrisWoollard, you are welcome [00:22] Where you commented out the username. Is that to make it apply to whoever has been assigned the bug rather than just the specified user? [00:22] yes [00:22] I thought so. I am not an expert python programmer [00:23] if you to mark all the bugs assigned to godbyk or someone else [00:23] just uncomment those lignes [00:24] and in line 51 change "launchpad.me" to "me" [00:25] Ok. I understand. Thanks for your help. [00:26] How does it authenticate with launchpad? [00:27] you need to be authenticate [00:27] d [00:27] so lp need to know how is making the changes [00:30] Does the script prompt? or do you just need to login via the web interface? [00:32] if you are not login the script will open a new window in your browser [00:33] Ok. That is good. Thanks for the info. [00:33] nop [00:33] I am going to bed now. See you around tomorrow. [00:33] good night === ZachK_ is now known as zkriesse [05:00] Who's around? [05:03] no one [05:03] okay [05:08] Hey, humphreybc. I'm halfway here. :) [05:08] What's up? [05:08] just writing up the announcement [05:09] cool [05:09] saw that the links were changed over [05:09] everything appears to be up and running now. [05:15] okay [05:15] should hit planet ubuntu soon, it's on omg ubuntu, sent to some lists [05:16] cool [05:16] btw, are you able to make an ubuntu manual meeting on Sunday at 2000 UTC? [05:17] (I think that's the date and time it's currently scheduled for.) [05:17] that would be monday morning for me [05:17] I think I should be okay [05:17] 'kay. [05:18] We need to make up the list of things to do for Maverick and also translations for lucid-e1 and -e2. [05:18] yeah [05:18] have you talked to daker recently? [05:18] how's he going on the new sites? [05:19] I'm not sure what the status of the new sites is. [05:19] my avatar is broken on http://planet.ubuntu-manual.org/ :( [05:19] I had him help fix up our current site to handle e2 this week, though. [05:22] i'm still not happy with who's getting the manual. it's the wrong people [05:22] we need to be pushing to loco teams [05:22] everyone who is downloading it already knows how to use ubuntu and they're just downloading it because they can [05:23] that's something we need to talk about [05:23] how to get it out there more [05:25] agreed [05:26] I think the ultimate "out there" would be if it could get into the example content. [05:26] yeah [05:26] anyone have any idea as to what's involved in that? [05:26] Jorge [05:26] I just pinged him [05:26] I think it's no problem, except the timing thing [05:26] It will have to be the Maverick one [05:26] yeah, that'll be nearly impossible. [05:27] I mean they're changing things up until the last moment. [05:27] We can drop in our RC when they have their RC [05:27] so any docs we put on the cd will likely be out of date and invalid. [05:27] you guys know that 10.04.1 was just released the other day? [05:27] nisshh: yes [05:27] godbyk they've been better this time [05:27] yea [05:27] humphreybc: have they? [05:27] they didn't land the theme 6 hours before beta freeze this time :P [05:27] yeah [05:27] heh [05:27] well feature freeze has passed [05:27] I think [05:27] humphreybc: maybe you could get it in the example content for 10.04.2? [05:28] nisshh: no, point releases are just bug fixes. [05:28] im sure 1 pdf would be allowed [05:28] we're looking at maverick [05:28] godbyk, also PDF size [05:28] ah right [05:28] it's too big at the moment [05:28] we need to cut down screenshots and the length and compress it [05:28] right now it's 4.5 MB. [05:28] they use every single kilobyte for the CD [05:29] It's still 4.2 MB compressed. [05:29] yeah I mean it will have to be less than 3 I reckon, and even then it will take a lot of convincing [05:29] humphreybc: do the screenshots currently get compressed with an image compressor? [05:29] nisshh: no idea [05:29] also [05:29] I want thorwil to do a more prominent title page design [05:29] a bolder one [05:29] darker [05:30] and the colour scheme in the PDF can change too [05:30] I'd like to see that. [05:30] purples and oranges, not brick reds [05:30] yeah, thorwil and I are discussing new design stuff for maverick. [05:30] this is all for maverick [05:34] btw, I love how the only 'feature' you mention in your email is the file system pic you did. :-P [05:34] there aren't any other features though :P [05:35] yeah, but that's not worth mentioning either. :) [05:35] lol [05:41] godbyk: http://twitter.com/humphreybc/status/21550288801 [05:41] Basically just got the word out to potentially 13,000 people :P [05:42] Nice. :) [05:46] great, thorwil fixed the circle of friends in the second edition [05:47] (the "bodies" lost weight in the new branding) [05:48] yeah [05:49] have you got last.fm ? [05:49] yeah [05:49] I don't do anything with it, though. [05:49] http://www.last.fm/user/humphreybc1 [05:49] oh [05:49] you should turn on scrobbling [05:49] it's really simple [05:49] it probably just tracks whatever random stuff I listen to. :) [05:49] and you just leave it :P [05:49] fill me in. [05:49] what music player do you use? [05:50] sometimes rhythmbox, sometimes mplayer. [05:50] rhythmbox has a plugin [05:50] so does banshee [05:50] there's also a neat android app [05:50] you just install it, tell it your username / password and it runs whenever music is playing [05:52] I've done that before. [05:52] But what's the benefit? [05:53] you get to see stats [05:53] and other people [05:53] can see what you like [05:54] do you know how to add this (http://twitpic.com/widgets/designer) to my wordpress blog sidebar? [05:54] that link didn't take me anywhere useful. [05:54] oh [05:54] well it's some js code [05:54] you know, to paste on your site [05:55] but i can't find a wordpress widget that lets me paste in js code? [05:55] but typically, you go to the /wp-admin/ dir, and there will be a Sidebar link under the Appearance tab (or whatever). You can select widgets or paste code for a new one. [05:55] (I made up the names of the links.. but that's the general idea of how to find it.. I think.) [05:55] yeah i'm here [05:55] http://humphreybc.wordpress.com/wp-admin/widgets.php [05:55] but [05:55] can't make a new widget [05:55] no idea how to install plugins either [05:56] i think it's because i'm using wordpress.com instead of downloading the wordpress software? [05:56] on mine, there's a Plugins block on the left with 'Add New' link. [05:56] I think the Appearance > Widgets is what you want. [05:56] but you downloaded and installed wordpress on your server [05:56] i'm just running off the wordpress.com server [05:56] yeah [05:56] i'm there [05:56] I can't do it on mine because my current theme doesn't have a sidebar. [05:56] but [05:56] no plugins [05:57] ah, gotcha. [05:57] there are things [05:57] but they're not what i want [05:57] they may not allow it. I'm not sure. [05:57] grr [05:58] i am hungry [06:00] brb [06:00] godbyk, start looking into ways to get the PDF file size down [06:00] I've been doing that. [06:00] I just ran the screenshots through pngcrush and it reduced their size a lot. [06:00] but the pdf was the same size in the end. [06:00] now I'm trying to find a program that'll tell me what part of the pdf is taking all the space: text, screenshots, fonts, etc. [06:00] if you find one, let me know. [06:00] brb [06:01] ok [06:13] humphreybc: heya! [06:13] got a minute? [06:14] yar [06:14] can you make a note to mail in plaintext? [06:14] (just to the lists) [06:14] what do you mean? [06:14] most of turn off html formatting since lists prefer not to have it. [06:15] No big deal :) [06:15] oh [06:15] the announcement [06:15] it doesn't really matter because it's all over the place anyway [06:15] Yeah. No big deal. But if you can, great :) [06:16] I should add this channel to my auto-join list :) [06:18] back now. [06:18] nigelb: you should, we're pretty cool [06:20] some of us are way cooler than others, though. :-P [06:20] haha [06:20] my irssi has too many windows! Need to kill some. [06:26] i have to go to the supermarket and get some chicken for dinner but it's raining :( [06:26] order delivery instead. [06:27] don't really have that in NZ [06:27] ah, bummer [08:06] good morning! === dutchie_ is now known as dutchie === zkriesse is now known as Guest13344 === Guest13344 is now known as zkriesse [12:17] godbyk: ping [13:13] Hello, ubuntu-manual! [13:14] as before, I am also hosting the next Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04 Second Edition as a second(or third, or hundredth) mirror [13:15] Feel free to use the link as needed: http://anthonyrhook.com/Getting%20Started%20with%20Ubuntu%2010.04%20Second%20Edition.pdf [13:15] That is all, cheears :) [13:17] s/cheears/cheers [13:17] My Printed copy of e2 just arrived :) [13:21] I lied, something is strange with my hosting. [13:30] There we go, http://anthonyrhook.com/ubuntu/Getting%20Started%20with%20Ubuntu%2010.04%20-%20Second%20Edition.pdf or alternatively http://bit.ly/9VWjyY [15:58] Do we need more mirrors? [15:58] If so, I can offer one. [15:59] flan, not for now === daker_ is now known as daker [19:17] evening al [19:17] l [19:17] Evening. It's been a bit quite on here tonight. [19:18] hey thymox, allot of us now have real jobs :( [19:18] * jenkins starts quickshot for the evening [19:19] Hey Jenkins - I never said anyone didn't have a real job. :p [19:19] ooo uupc is out [19:20] yea I am in here all day if I am at uni [19:21] * flan claims that all jobs are fake. [19:21] I'm planning on hanging out in various #ubuntu-* IRC channels a bit more... so long as I can get it to work through my work's proxy. [19:23] for i in jobs: assert isinstance(i, fake) [19:26] my work it policy is very strict I would no way be allowed to be on irc, also I would get none of my work done :P [19:28] My work have a filtered proxy - but some things only get filtered if you're on certain networks. F'rinstance, facebook is not allowed if you're getting to t'Internet via their student-access wifi; if you're on a workstation that's got an Ethernet connection, or if you connect via the locked-down-by-MAC-addresses staff-access wifi, then facebook is not blocked. [19:29] Set up an SSH tunnel at home./ [19:29] Though Facebook is terrible and should be blocked everywhere. [19:29] flan: ben put a september 10th as a quickshot release date how likely do you think it will be to make it? I am unsure as it depends how much time it takes for me to learn the stuff i need [19:30] Uh... doable. [19:30] But we'll have very little time for testing. [19:30] @flan: I agree WRT facebook; I did have an SSH tunnel set up to my home before I moved house and job... I am now looking for a cheap, low-power device to have on 24/7 at home so I can do it again. :) [19:30] thymox: Error: "flan:" is not a valid command. [19:30] yea thats my thought flan [19:31] thymox, have you considered a VPS or VPS-like solution? [19:31] I do have a week off from 28 [19:31] I can't take time off before the 18th of September. :( [19:31] Big project. [19:31] Unless I get that done super-fast. [19:32] I really only need about fifteent o twenty good hours to get the server operational, though. [19:33] I'll find some way to self-host the UMP instance if we're pressed for time. [19:33] cool I need to learn a few bits and then need the server interacting stuff, I am playing with the old stuff atm [19:33] hey Muscovy [19:33] I could just park a server at my parents' place and serve it through my ISP if I can't host it under uguu.ca and we encounter any snags in getting it running on Dreamhost's limited WSGI platform. [19:34] The server-interface code will be much better than before. [19:34] That'll only take a couple of hours to write. [19:34] If their absence is holding you back, I could write a prototype now. [19:35] Just without any actual functionality. [19:36] Oh. I could probably also host it at work, under my domain, if we get really desperate. I've got plenty of servers that could easily handle the load. [19:36] (That only I ever see) [19:41] Hello jenkins. [19:42] flan: no rush it is not holding me back at all [19:43] What are you guys working on? [19:43] Quickshot. [19:43] I'll be +Internet in about 42 hours. [19:43] Which makes me $EMOTION. [19:44] what day do you get it? [19:44] I'm reading the post, that looks cool. [19:44] Saturday, UTC-6. [19:44] Early on Saturday. [19:45] Like, around 10:00. [19:45] cool on monday I get unlimited download limit \o/ . I will try and be on then on sat as I will not be around on sunday [19:45] Muscovy: do you know any python? [19:45] Some. [19:45] Pfft. Download limits. [19:46] * flan doesn't handle enough traffic to make them meaningful. [19:46] do you know pygtk? or any thing about packaging for other distros. [19:46] Though my PS3 probably uses a fair chunk, the few times I actually play stuff online. [19:46] Neither, I'm afraid. [19:46] you could learn :P [19:47] Though technically I suppose I know a little about packaging for Debian. :P [19:47] debhelper? [19:47] Yeah. [19:48] I have been learning that, I have pretty much learnt how to write a debian rules files. [19:48] Because you're crazy. =P [19:48] * jenkins remebers to ask Muscovy if he needs some help on the week end [19:48] What about the weekend? [19:49] help with packaging I have a few odds and ends to finish [19:50] if you don't mind :) [19:50] I should be able to help. [19:50] I know very little about the rules file though. [19:51] Most of my packages have been drop-in graphics and Python and stuff. [19:52] ChrisWoollard: pong. [19:52] ChrisWoollard: your printed copy of e2 arrived already?! Wow! [19:53] * jenkins needs to order a copy [19:53] * Muscovy also needs one. [19:55] * flan has moving expenses and will likely have to wait for Maverick to order one. :( [19:55] Or perhaps, ChrisWoollard_: pong? :) [20:11] Hello [20:11] Yes. And it looks great [20:12] It seems that it was printed local to the uk. [20:14] godbyk: Have you seen those new bug reports that we have got? [20:14] ChrisWoollard_: Yeah, they have printers around the world. [20:15] ChrisWoollard_: I've seen a couple of 'em and agree with the ones I've seen. [20:15] s/Unix-based/Linux-based/, I hope. [20:16] when we ordered lucid-e1 mine came first :) [20:17] So, Are we going to do a lucid-e3? [20:18] That seems kinda pointless, with Maverick so close. [20:18] I know. [20:18] Just fix the bugs going forward. [20:18] I felt a little sad about popey's comments. [20:19] what was popey' comments where? [20:19] Yeah, you Brits don't have to ship things very far. :) [20:19] Took forever for mine to arrive. [20:20] Nah, we'll just deal with it all in maverick. [20:20] What was said in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bug/582361 [20:20] Launchpad bug 582361 in ubuntu-manual "apt-get doesn't mention dist-upgrade" [Medium,Confirmed] [20:20] RE: popey's bug: I think the problem is two-fold: 1. it required some thought/research to solve properly and no one spent the time on it, and 2. it may become a moot point if we're removing that chapter/section from the maverick edition. [20:21] I can start fixing them in maverick now can't I? [20:22] ChrisWoollard_: You might want to hold off just a bit. [20:22] I think the maverick branch is funky. [20:22] It's *really* big compared to the lucid-e2 branch. [20:22] (i.e., over twice as large.) [20:22] we should probably get that fixed first. [20:23] Why don't you just drop it and re-create it from lucid-e2 [20:23] I *think* to fix it for lucid-e2, I wiped out the whole branch, created a brand new empty one and copied over just the files we needed. [20:23] When do you think you can have the funkiness removed? [20:24] But I'll have to check my notes to be sure. [20:24] I'll try to take a look at it today. [20:24] can we not delete the screenshots and the .bzr file? [20:24] Unless someone else wants to handle it. [20:24] jenkins: I don't think so because launchpad still has all that history. [20:24] I think we have to kill the branch entirely and then copy over the files themselves (i.e., not create a branch from e2). [20:25] well if i delete the branch and use lucid-e2 but set up a new branch with it will that work? [20:25] Like a fresh copy [20:25] jenkins: that'll pull in the lucid-e2 history and we don't really care about that. [20:25] we just want the files themselves. [20:26] basically, we want maverick to be a completely fresh start. [20:26] well i would delete the .bzr stuff [20:26] we'll never revert to an older e2 revision. [20:26] I'm not following with the .bzr stuff. [20:26] if you delete the .bzr stuff locally, the history will still exist on launchpad and still take up space, right? [20:26] I have to go to the supermarket now. I look forward to seeing it when i get back ;) [20:26] brb [20:27] well there is a .bzr folder which I assume contains all the history if I also delete the mavrick branch in launchpad and recreate it will that work? [20:27] Also, have we got an agenda for the meeting on Sunday yet? [20:29] not as far as i know [20:31] ok well we can't delete mavrick as there is one branch that shares revisions, what does that mean? [20:31] back [20:31] well I know what it means but what do we do? [20:32] jenkins: hmm.. good question. [20:32] maybe ask the #launchpad guys what's best? [20:32] what we're trying to do is get a fresh start on the branch and jettison all the history/older revisions. [20:33] I will give them a shout [20:34] thanks [21:40] godbyk ping [21:48] godbyk I raised the issue in #launchpad and did not get much of an answer lifeless said (20:49:24) lifeless: jenkins: thats a pretty harmful thing to do [21:48] (20:49:33) lifeless: jenkins: you'll make it hard for everyone collaborating on it. I did reply and I have asked people to direct any other answers to you as I need to get some sleep [21:49] jenkins: How does it make it hard? [21:49] ok I can't ask them as you are not in the channel [21:49] what? [21:50] well everyone has to re start the branch as thy will diverge [21:51] I ment you are not in #launchpad === Zeike is now known as brandonj [22:25] godbyk: ping [22:25] ChrisWoollard_: pong [22:25] I have noticed that in the maverick branch there is a directory called Planet Stuff [22:26] That isn't in e2 [22:26] it isn't very big though [22:26] ChrisWoollard_: Yeah, I was just talking to jenkins about all that. [22:27] We should really delete the branch, make a new one, and copy over only the files we need. (So we don't drag in all the history we don't care about.) [22:27] But then jenkins said one of the #launchpad guys said that was a bad idea for some reason. [22:27] I saw that the #launchpad people scared Jenkins though [22:27] well everyone has to re start the branch as thy will diverge [22:27] they did not scare me :P [22:28] i scared them as they did not answer back :D [22:28] Sorry, That was just my interpretation [22:28] hehe lol np [22:28] I thought you were going to bed [22:29] to me it looks like the .bzr directory is huge in the maverick branch but not e2 [22:29] did I put the files in the maverick branch? where did they come from? [22:30] I put all the lucid-e2 stuff in yesterday [22:30] just revert the revision if need be, night all [22:30] how? [22:30] 118mb compared with 14mb [22:30] well, reverting it still leaves the history though, right? [22:31] he ran away.... === Zeike is now known as brandonj [23:46] Hi. The strings in lucid e1 are changing - our translation rate has dropped considerably. What's going on? [23:59] askhl_: I don't know why the strings would be changing. The translation template file (.pot file) hasn't been changed recently.