[00:03] Hi [00:03] I cant boot in run level 1 fro ubuntu 10.04 [00:04] actually its directly going to GUI [00:04] is there any way .. by which I can boot in grub and then change the runlevel === RudyValencia- is now known as RudyValencia === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [00:15] how do i see a list of all the apt-get installations? I think i installed two mail servers, exim and postfix, and i want to remove postfix. [00:16] Sonja: a list or a log? [00:17] Guys how to log in automaticly from a server? [00:17] Sonja: I would recomend aptitude [00:18] thanks. aptitude looks neat [00:21] wow a gui and everything [00:22] :) [00:22] clickable putty [00:22] you can do "aptitude search mail | grep ^i" to list installed mail-related packages [00:36] New bug: #620174 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.6.5-3 failed to install/upgrade:" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620174 [00:37] i'm trying to set up a mail server at 69.165.245.9 [00:37] i think i configured my firewall proprely [00:37] one sec [00:51] New bug: #246190 in nmap (main) "nmap reports wrong service for port 9102" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246190 [01:02] is there a good way to lock your session in a headless install without logging out? [01:06] nevermind... found it (away or vlock) [01:24] hi there [01:24] I had to reboot my ubuntu server this morning, because the process table was flooded with root process running: /USR/BIN/CRON (all caps); does anyone know a possible reason? or has anyone seen that? [01:26] hmm seems a bit odd [01:41] hey [01:42] how the hell does one move NTFS and EXT4 partitions around with sizes specified in sectors and not MBs [01:42] parted does not support NTFS and asks me to flush the journal by hand before for ext4 [01:42] and gparted is stuck in MB [01:59] hallyn: /win 3 [01:59] ups sry [02:08] Hi all ! [02:09] could someone assist a stupid guy (not me ;) ) who has remove apt & aptitude from his server ? [02:10] guest9876543210: that does sound awfully fun. do you still have dpkg? [02:10] :D can you do apt-get remove --purge apt ? [02:10] this is fun :D [02:10] yeap, I think he still has dpkg installed (thanks for the answer shauno) [02:11] RoAkSoAx: hate when i do that :) [02:12] shauno : I'm looking for a .deb for apt, but I haven't find it yet [02:12] guest9876543210: try aptitude [02:12] Of sure, it is a remove server and he doesn't have access to a physical CD-ROM [02:13] pmatulis : he has removed aptitude too :( [02:13] guest9876543210: no, d/l aptitude package [02:13] a remote server .. sorry for mistype [02:13] guest9876543210: and install it with dpkg [02:13] guest9876543210: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/ 0.7.25.3 appears to be current on 10.04 [02:14] guest9876543210: not sure about any dependencies that may be missing [02:14] shauno & pmatulis : thanks for the help, I'll let him know the deb place :) [02:15] guest9876543210: I might advise duct-taping his fingers together so he doesn't do that again :) [02:15] guest9876543210: tell your "friend" to think twice and act once :D [02:16] Yeap, I'm pretty sure he has type a long command and didn't take care ... [02:17] apt should throw up a warning demanding that he types "Yes, do as I say!". That's usually a big red flag. [02:17] (assuming he used apt to remove apt ..) [02:18] shauno : I don't know the exact command he typed, but for sure, it was crazy [02:19] if he's managed to nuke dpkg as well, you may be interested to know that .deb are just archives that can be peeled apart with the 'ar' command. you can piece things back together by hand, it's just not fun [02:20] shauno : I don't hink he removed dpkg has he has already tried to reinstall using it [02:20] I didn't want to second-guess just how crazy crazy is :) [02:21] arg .. he just told me he's using Lenny and not Ubuntu .. [02:22] you should be able to track it down with packages.debian.org and do the same thing [02:23] shauno : thanks, that's the URL I was looking for :) [02:29] Is someone here a bit used to vmbuilder ? (Virtual Machine) [02:29] (this is a question from me, this time) [02:32] So, in resume, I have installed a minimal Lucid server to run as a VM server [02:33] I have installed successfully the first VM (a Lucid i386) and I can start it [02:33] (I'm using a brdge network on the server) [02:34] but once, the VM Lucid is launched, I can't access anymore to the VM server using SSH [02:35] I have changed the SSH port of the LucidVM to 23, but I still can't access the VM-server ... [02:35] Has anyone a track, or I am missing completely something about VMs ? === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless [04:12] New bug: #620243 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package libmysqlclient16 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.16.0.0', which is also in package mysql-cluster-client-5.1 0:7.0.9-1ubuntu7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620243 [04:12] Question about DNS: I've set up DNS according the Ubuntu server guide. Do I need to do anything so that it propagates? === EvilTrek is now known as EvilPhoenix [04:48] Need to tell your domain name registrar where the DNS server is. [05:02] I have a Ubuntu server that I have configured to have a static IP - but every few hours, it gets an IP over DHCP. My /etc/network/interfaces looks like this: http://dpaste.com/230918/ [05:02] Any ideas? [05:17] monokrome: did you install this server using the Ubuntu Server CD, or by some other means? [05:19] #quit [05:21] monokrome, have you run `sudo service networking restart` or rebooted the system since configuring it static? [05:38] qman__: It's been doing this for 2 months now. [05:38] And yes. [05:38] twb: I used the official installer. [05:38] and an official cd [05:39] You installed a server using the "desktop" or "alternate" CD? [05:39] Why would I install a server using a desktop CD? [05:39] Because you're an idiot [05:39] Well, I didn't. [05:40] If you didn't do something stupid, that's great, but I have to check for stupid things first [05:40] I used the Ubuntu Server distribution [05:40] Good-o. [05:40] Is there a dhclient process running right now? [05:40] Is Network Manager installed? [05:41] Just a second. It kicked me off because it changed it's IP again. [05:41] okay. Found it again. [05:43] Network manager isn't installed - unless that's a default. [05:44] There is a dhclient process running - which is weird since I uninstalled it :| [05:44] OK, so I guess the problem is that you changed it to static, then bounced the network -- but the network bounce script saw a static configuration, so didn't try to kill off the original dhclient process [05:45] bounced the network? [05:45] If I'm right, killing off dhclient, or rebooting the box, should be a permanent fix. [05:45] I've rebooted and it didn't fix it [05:45] "bounce the network" as in "sudo restart networking" or so. [05:45] after uninstalling dhclient [05:45] which means it's still there :| [05:45] Then how the hell did the process start [05:45] Unless you issued "shutdown -r now" but it didn't actually do so [05:50] I rebooted the server a few minutes after "remove --purge" completed [05:51] Proof: [05:51] http://dpaste.com/230938/ [05:52] And did you try "which dhclient" after your spurious attempt to purge it? [05:52] I did that about 2 minutes ago. [05:53] I removed dhclient weeks ago. [05:53] and yes, I've rebooted since. [05:53] Because "dhclient" isn't a package. [05:53] it's either "isc-dhcp-client" or "dhcp3-client", depending on vintage [05:54] ugh. why were they both set to manually installed? :| [05:54] Because ALL packages in the base install are marked as manually installed, for hysterical reasons. [05:55] lol [05:55] Here is a dance I do to make most things markauto'd, immediately after install: [05:55] aptitude --schedule-only markauto ~E '~i!~M(~Rdepends:~i|~Rrecommends:~i)' && aptitude --schedule-only keep ~aremove && aptitude install [05:56] hmm [06:34] Is this the right place to ask questions about Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud? [06:34] morning guys.. [06:36] MatthewM: #ubuntu-cloud [06:36] as you can see from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [06:36] alex88: thanks [06:36] np [06:53] hey quick question, reading the server docs for installing postfix [06:53] when it asks for a Root and postmaster mail recipient, does that have to be the username for an account on the system? [06:53] or what what should i set that to? [07:01] hey, anyone rent a vps from thrustvps.com or damnvps.com? [07:02] anyone at all? [07:10] hey, anyone rent a vps from thrustvps.com or damnvps.com? [07:11] * Pupeno is a happy Linode costumer. [07:11] Pupeno, what virtualizaton do they use? [07:11] xen or openvz? [07:12] No idea, but I think they use xen. === Q_Continuum_ is now known as Q_Continuum [07:12] is it hvm or pv [07:30] * mase_wk also uses Linode and is happy [07:31] Linode is a bit out of my price range [07:32] im happy with a less stable vps for cheaper [07:32] im just having trouble with downloading the server edition to my vps [07:32] i found out that the server i was downloading it from has a corrupt file [07:51] hi [07:51] is there a way to know from OS which Hardware RAID level has been configured on Ubuntu Server ? [07:53] depends on raid controller [07:53] mdadm -D /dev/md0 ? [07:53] alex88: hardware raid [07:53] how can i exclude a directory, say /var/log from aide? [07:53] oh right...sorry :) [08:04] hey in the postfix configuration screen when asks for the limit on mailbox files, what should i put? what does it mean when it says "The upstream default is 51200000" [08:07] glick it means that postfix shipped from postfix.org servers has a default value of 51200000 [08:08] whats a good default for a website mase_wk [08:08] website ? i thought you were installing postfix [08:09] postfix is an SMTP server [08:09] mase_wk, yeah i am, its the mail end for a website, for sending confirmation emails, and getting contact emails, etc [08:09] for a django frontend [08:09] alex88: its a hardware raid controller and not a software controller [08:10] kaushal: ivoks already told me :) [08:10] so i don't know :) [08:10] 03:00.0 RAID bus controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic MegaRAID SAS 1078 (rev 04) [08:10] ivoks: 03:00.0 RAID bus controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic MegaRAID SAS 1078 (rev 04) [08:10] what should i set for a mailbox size limit? [08:10] ive never set up a postfix install before [08:10] glick: well since i don't know anything about the amount of mail traffic for your site anything i give you is probably pointless [08:11] you don't have to set a limit [08:11] you can have unlimited [08:11] if in doubt just accept upstream default [08:11] glick: set something..when the disk is full erase all mailboxes and set lower limit :) [08:12] i guess ill set it to half a gig [08:12] ivoks: do you need more info ? [08:12] it doesnt save sent email does it? [08:12] or sent email doesnt contribute to the mailbox size [08:12] only recieved email right? [08:12] depends if you save sent mails [08:13] if yes, yes... [08:13] alex88, oh, thats a config option? [08:22] kaushal: no :) [08:23] kaushal: there's megamgr management tool for those raid controllers [08:23] do i need to define a character for local adress extension? [08:23] im not even sure what that is [08:23] at least there was couple of years ago when i decided not to use LSI chips any more :) [08:24] kaushal: http://blog.irwan.name/?p=1440 [08:32] ivoks: so i need to install it to get to know the RAID Controller ? [08:32] Raid Level ? [08:35] kaushal: yes [08:35] glick: no, it's not a config..just user decide to save sent mails or not..it goes to mailbox too so the space is shared.. [08:35] maybe it's possible to get this from the driver itself [08:35] i don't have LSI anywhere anymore, so I can't check [08:40] when it asks to specify the network blocks for which the host should relay mail, should i enter the ip address of the host? [08:41] leave default [08:42] btw https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html [08:42] yeah thats what im reading alex88 [08:43] alex88, wouldnt the network block by my ip/32? [08:43] by = be [08:44] dunno.. i've left default [08:46] and it worked [08:46] do you relay mail for others? [08:47] don't think he needs that...btw, community docs are better https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto [08:48] courier? [08:48] doh... [08:48] stick with official docs :) [09:01] well, the start was about postfix... :) [09:05] yeah :) [09:05] someone knows how can i put ubuntu iso into /boot and boot via grub for restore? [09:39] hey guys how can i find out what type of ram i have in my server with out taking it offline [09:41] eagles0513875: use dmidecode or lshw === Nicke is now known as 18VABDTK5 === skoef is now known as 84XAATDCT === geneticx is now known as 94SAAGLLG [10:22] New bug: #620330 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620330 === maxb_ is now known as Guest7510 === jmarsden is now known as Guest11851 [10:42] Oh. What a netsplit. === 14WAA3OEI is now known as baccenfutter === baccenfutter is now known as baccenfutte [10:45] should my CSR have a passphrase or no? === baccenfutte is now known as baccenfutter [10:49] glick: csr? [10:50] certificate signing request [10:52] well...you should have a pass for everything :) [10:52] for more security [10:52] Adding passwords doesn't necessarily improve security [10:52] e.g. if has four passwords instead of one, they're more likely to write ALL FOUR on a postit note [10:53] well..that's an example [10:53] a windows logon without password has not more security [10:54] I've actually argued that making root's password the empty string is MORE secure than giving it a fixed password that nobody bothers to change [10:54] Since the null string can only be used from secure TTYs [10:54] right. [10:55] but if only one person remember a password is secure [10:55] Any password can be brute-forced in enough time [10:55] right..but no one has years to brute-force a pass [10:56] if it isn't a 4-char pass... [10:56] that's not the case for most pass.. [10:57] There's a nonzero probability that the any password can be brute-forced in O(1) time. [10:57] Since it could guess it right the very first try [10:57] Do you want to be that an attacker is never going to get lucky? [10:57] *to bet [10:57] I need help, I just received warning from my hosting provider that an attack had been executed from my server. They sent a log of portscanning some IP addresses on port 21. I've asked my users if they did something like that and also ran rkhunter and chkrootkit, all of which came up wihout result. And there's not even nmap installed on the server. The hosting provider expects me to "solve the problem" and "report what countermeasures were taken" ... [10:58] twb: well.. i've never been so lucky.. :) [10:58] and also brute-force is the last way [10:58] twb: That's a rather silly argument, really. Any security protocol could be broken by a really lucky guess, most of the good ones make that sufficiently unlikely though. [10:59] rapha: O.o Lol [10:59] maswan: I suppose that's true, when you consider that multi-factor authentication has to be digitized at some point, and the attacker could inject their brute-force guesses after that point [10:59] that said, I only allow ssh key logins instead of passwords to the servers I run [11:00] alex88: you find that funny? [11:00] because those are way harder to guess than a password someone can remember [11:00] Right. [11:00] rapha: really not.. [11:00] maswan: true [11:01] (and it has the bonus that you get two-factor auth to get root access with a password to sudo) [11:01] because i could really use a helping hand here ... I've no idea about how computer forensics work [11:01] rapha: check on user logins at that time [11:01] alex88: how? i only know how to check who's logged in right now... [11:01] rapha: key-based auth is already two-factor -- the passphrase (something you know) and the private key (something you have). [11:02] twb: i'm sorry? [11:02] Sorry, bad completion [11:02] oh k [11:02] ask on these 2 guys talking in the background :) btw i think /var/log has it [11:02] in some logs :) [11:03] there's auth.log [11:03] maybe that helps me [11:03] but why would www-data be opening an closing sessions? [11:04] A good introduction to forensics is Venema's book [11:04] http://www.porcupine.org/forensics/forensic-discovery/ [11:04] www-data? maybe you've got hacked by web.. [11:04] *been [11:05] hmmm [11:05] EVERY attack I've seen in the last decade has been via an insecure web app [11:05] my own account and the "admin" account are opening and closing sessions all the time, too [11:05] even though I don't rly use my own account at all [11:05] They might use a kernel vulnerability to escalate from www-data to root, but it's PHP they use to get their foot in the door. [11:06] there's just a cron job running in it checking the response time of a website every 5 minutes [11:06] that's yours? [11:06] alex88: mine is called "rapha" [11:06] the cron job.. [11:06] yes [11:07] there's rly not much in /var/log/auth.log besides all the "opening session" and "closing session" chatter. not even failed login attempts. [11:07] the root passwords of the accounts are the same? [11:07] the root password is disabled; you can't log in as root - only through sudo. [11:08] and only user "admin" is allowed to do so. [11:08] and you never go into it? [11:08] oh yes, i mostly use the "admin" account, and also use "sudo" quite regularly, e.g. to install updates [11:08] Hei all. Ive a small issue, I have a mail server that is not in use anymore, except for archival purposes. on the same machine is bugzilla. now bugzilla's mail is being sent with the mail server on that machine, not the external one I need it to. how do I fix thsi? [11:09] twb: thx for the book ... i need some quick way though to find out who or what did those portscans yesterday evening, or the hosting provider will shut down the machine :( [11:09] rapha: check the apache log for hack attempts [11:10] alex88: not running apache but lighttpd ... let me check the logs anyway [11:10] same thing [11:10] search for some system commands like cd, ls, /tmp [11:11] If a machine is compromised, you should offline it anyway [11:11] make a backup of logs, save on your pc and investigate there [11:11] twb: i'm not sure it is compromised. both rootkit scanners came up empty. [11:11] the backup is prolly a good idea tho. [11:12] going to backup /etc and /home as well in case it needs setting up again [11:14] rapha: also /var/lock/ [11:14] */var/log [11:15] alex88: already backed that up when you first suggested it :) [11:15] :) if you want give me apache logs and i make a qucik search [11:16] for the time being maybe it would be a good idea to install a firewall that blocks everything from the inside to the outside except for the services that need to run [11:16] *quick [11:16] rapha: csf is a very good choise for me [11:16] it's no prob, i can do the work if somebody tells me what to do :) [11:16] why not ufw alex88? any specific reason? [11:16] also has a intrusion detector.. [11:17] rapha: more advanced features, also checks for suspicious process and send mail warnings [11:17] k [11:17] * rapha 'll check it out [11:18] hmmm backup of the home dirs will naturally take some time ... couple hundred gigs [11:22] rapha: which web apps do you have on? [11:23] rapha: http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/logging/detecting-attacks-web-applications-log-files_2074 [11:23] jussi: Check the bugzilla "administration" pages (log in as a user with "admin" rights). There's an "email" page, with a setting for "smtpserver". [11:24] sherr: thanks a lot, Ill go look there. [11:24] alex88: one custom-built site that is in the process of being replaced by a Contao based one. One Joomla-based site, that will also switch to Contao in the near future. Loads of Redaxo sites. Postfix-Admin. RoundCubeMail. Those should be about it. [11:25] well...custom-built maybe [11:25] can you give me address? [11:25] alex88: yeah its pretty badly made thats why we're replacing it [11:26] i'll take as a no :) [11:27] oh ofc sry missed that .., www.overcross.de [11:28] uh..nice site :) [11:28] well, yeah, the design. the rest - not so much. [11:28] hi [11:29] if i provide access to a server and there if i want to block access to the internal lan machines ? [11:30] how can it be done using ufw ? [11:30] I mean block the user to access all the hosts in the internal LAN [11:31] rapha: it's sql vulnerable [11:36] hey [11:36] hi [11:36] what do i set the host name of the postfix, when its on the same machine as the webserver? [11:37] set it to anything? [11:37] or the actual hostname? [11:38] it's better to a fqdn [11:38] you set it to what you want to receive mail for [11:38] alex88: i was afraid so :-( ... can you /msg me where? [11:38] soo....made_up_name.fqdn [11:39] even if the phsyical host its on is named 43o5u7 [11:55] UFW isn't ideal for servers like that [11:55] it's a great easy-setup tool for desktops and low profile servers, but you're really missing a lot of things by using it [11:55] for example, the outgoing port scans could have been prevented entirely by a well-written firewall [12:01] New bug: #620382 in samba (main) "smbmount allows mounting the same ressource multiple times on the same mountpoint" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620382 [12:16] root@localhost:/etc/postgresql/8.4/main# service restart postgresql-8.4 [12:16] restart: unrecognized service [12:17] isnt that correct name for postgresql? === Guest7510 is now known as maxb === maxb is now known as Guest10006 [12:23] glick: It is, but the command is # service postgresql-8.4 restart [12:24] riiiiight [12:24] im an idio === ryanakca_ is now known as ryanakca === maxb_ is now known as maxb === lamont` is now known as lamont [12:33] rapha: check pm === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [13:21] hmm it says i cant put aliases into httpd.conf [13:21] where should i put them then? === zul_ is now known as zul [13:23] hey anyone knows if there is a way to install ubuntu on a pgpdesktop encrypted harddrive? === g0rd0n_ is now known as g0rd0n [13:27] so I just installed 10.04.1 server edition and googled a way to add a gui ( sudo aptitude install x-window-system-core gnome + sudo aptitude install gdm). However, the instructions there as to actually running the gui won't work. Help? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [13:28] gui? on a server? [13:28] just a little home server experiment [13:29] Ose: have you tried via tasksel? [13:29] run tasksel and select "Ubuntu desktop" [13:29] it should install everything you need and get the gui going [13:30] i've got a question about ubuntu server, sometimes it doesn't respond for a minute or so.. i can't find anything about it in the log files. what should I check next? [13:30] Actually it worked after a revoot [13:31] Reboot* [13:31] g0rd0n: and after having desktop? remote connect to desktop? [13:31] hj: faulty network driver? [13:32] did you try adifferent network adaptor? [13:32] i've got a question about ubuntu server, sometimes it doesn't respond for a minute or so.. i can't find anything about it in the log files. what should I check next? [13:32] Graps. [13:32] Graphs* [13:32] hj: try a diffferent network adaptor? [13:33] do you mean replacing the NIC? [13:35] alex88: i never tried remote connecting to a desktop, i just use headless servers :P [13:36] hj: could be an hd issue as well, although you should see errors about that [13:37] no, it's a virtual machine, and the ubuntu host server doesn't give any errors either [13:38] the 'downtime' is very random, so it's hard to test something. [13:41] downtime is like a minute max, at the moment i don't know if other VM's aren't reachable too [13:42] gi there [13:42] gi [13:45] g0rd0n: me too...but i've just asked what you can do then [13:52] alex88: well via rdp or similar you surely can take complete control over the gui remotely [13:52] btw i seem to be having some problems respawning the console to my ttyS0 via upstart, the login prompt doesn't show up in the serial console [13:52] right.. but i prefer command line :) [13:52] yeh me too [13:53] btw, have you heard that on semptember will be released lots of 0day? i think it's gonna be a hot september :) [13:53] in my /etc/event.d/tty file i have respawn exec /sbin/getty 57600 ttyS0 [13:53] alex88: oh well, will just bit a little bit of aptitude commands then :) [13:55] update every 3 hours? :) btw, i've seen they release microsoft, apple, adobe stuff.. [13:56] excel, ie, microsoft codecs and cpan will be exploited.. [13:58] argh [13:58] so may evil words on one pile insid a linux channel [13:58] shame on you [13:58] *g* [13:59] sorry :) [14:00] :P [14:00] i hate apple, adobe and oracle way more than microsoft nowadays [14:01] me too..maybe adobe is safe..but apple...bleah.. [14:01] * wastl recently banned his Mac from his office desk...now there is only a linux box left [14:02] * alex88 likes wastl office [14:08] ufw supports egress filtering btw [14:09] now there is just one winsucks pc in out office and the rest is linux [14:09] not to mention, you can add any rules you want with the ufw framework, so if you are iptables aware, just edit /etc/ufw/*rules [14:10] unfortunately we need that one for rdesktopping to it to use some business related apps that won't run in wine :/ [14:10] qman__: ^ if there are issues running ufw in production environments for bastion hosts, please file bugs [14:11] New bug: #620428 in unixodbc (main) "unixodbc-dev: 64bit typedefs don't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620428 [14:15] if i put a new upstart job in /etc/event.d on hardy, how do i make initctl recognize it? [14:15] initctl list does not show it === dantalizing_ is now known as dantalizing [14:19] anybody, at all? === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [14:36] New bug: #620441 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "MySQL upstart stop job does not cleanly shutdown mysql" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620441 [14:37] * zul shakes his fist at mysql and upstart === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez [14:41] I need to use a static IP for my ppp0 interface, and can't seem to find any howto's. I'm using Ubuntu Server 10.04 [14:44] anybody else think replacing init in -server was a stupid idea? [14:45] To be honest, I do [14:48] Does anyone have any pointers on using a static ip with ppp0 using pppoeconf? [14:49] joe-mac1: replacing init? [14:49] g0rd0n: yes, with upstart [14:49] oh you mean this upstart thing [14:49] for my sub ten secfond boot times on servers i reboot once a quarter [14:49] real awesome [14:49] heh i am having trouble getting my freakin serial console to work with upstart [14:49] duide [14:49] same here [14:49] in 10.04 i can [14:49] in 8.04, having no luck [14:49] i need this to work for the VPS on HP boxes [14:50]