[04:06] <Takyoji> *cough hint cough* http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=153190131361740
[04:20] <Takyoji> Anyone know of a decent subtitle format that isn't patent-encumbered or anything stupid?
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> alt="Some text here"
[04:40] <Takyoji> I'm talking about for video. :P
[04:45] <Takyoji> I suppose WebSRT is the only suitable thing for my case.
[22:02] <Takyoji> Random thought: wouldn't it be convenient if the window manager had like a "snap to grid" concept with resizing windows?
[22:03] <Takyoji> moving/resizing*
[22:09] <Takyoji> I remember some Windows Server elitist that said command line is only for the nostalgic. xP
[22:10] <Takyoji> of some overweight representative of a local company in Faribault, whom had issues trying to start up the desktop he did the presentation on, at a 'career exploration' day thing.
[22:12] <Obsidian1723> how does his being overweight relate to his closed-mindedness?
[22:12] <Takyoji> whom implied if you ever want to get into technology, people will only care about Microsoft certifications (and I'm not exaggerating)
[22:12] <Takyoji> Well, alright, that was off-topic
[22:12] <Obsidian1723> and that was rather judmental too.
[22:12] <Obsidian1723> You can't complain of closed-minds if you yourself haveo ne as well.
[22:27] <kermit> it totally relates, both are evidence of a long list of cognative biases, of which was the point.
[22:28] <Obsidian1723> No, it doesn't.
[22:29] <Obsidian1723> Weight has zero to do with closed-mindedness.
[22:29] <Takyoji> Again, I had no intent of mocking those with obesity.
[22:31] <Takyoji> By the way, do those whom sell Windows licenses typically get it cheaper, to have markup, to have it equate the common price?
[22:31] <Obsidian1723> A fair comparisson would be to say that the guy was judgemental in support of MS/Windows, ruling out other solutions; and Takyoji was judgmental towards overweight people. Not trying to start shyte, just saying kermit, if you are going to compare, do like vs like, that's all.
[22:31] <Takyoji> (random curiosity)
[22:31] <Obsidian1723> Anyway........... moving onward.
[22:32] <Obsidian1723> Tak, OEMs get it cheaper I know..
[22:32] <Obsidian1723> but do you mean does the average Best buy employee get a discount? no.
[22:32] <Obsidian1723> That's why there are VLKs, those also get a discount too.
[22:33] <Takyoji> I'm just curious as to why typical retailers of hardware avoiding Linux and cling to selling Microsoft-based platforms, even when the use case is as simple as a webserver that'll be seldom touched.
[22:34] <Takyoji> and wondering if it's based upon profit from selling Windows-based equipment
[22:34] <Takyoji> Specifically servers.
[22:35] <Obsidian1723> nah
[22:35] <Takyoji> There's a church ministry that has a static website that's hosted on IIS which also has Exchange.
[22:35] <Obsidian1723> old Bill hanings had OEM licensing since the begin
[22:35] <Takyoji> Nobody ever interacts with the actual server and just work via FTP
[22:35] <kermit> Takyoji: its becuase of about 15% of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
[22:35] <kermit> Takyoji: and, as you correctly identified, are also substantialy the set of biases that relate to obescity
[22:35] <Takyoji> Which kills really the point of a Windows Server; considering to my understanding people favor such due to the straightforward GUI for configuring IIS
[22:36] <kermit> hmm more like 50% of that list
[22:36] <Obsidian1723> In 75, when MS started, and shortly thereafter, Bill and MS bought QDOS, Quick and Dorty Operating System. They they converted it into MS-DOS, or Micro-Soft Disk Operating System, then did the OEM licensing with vendors at the time to secure their place as the OS provider as the de facto standard.
[22:37] <Obsidian1723> Dirty..correcting my typo
[22:38] <Takyoji> but if they're just poking at it via FTP, and paying the vendor that gave them the physical server a load of money for "maintaining" the server, whereas the details of what's "maintained" is undisclosed..
[22:38] <Takyoji> QDOS was their attempt at an OS, then they bought DOS from some random person and rebranded it as MS-DOS, right?
[22:38] <Takyoji> (just never heard of QDOS before)
[22:42] <Obsidian1723> No, they bought QDOS, added to it and re-branded it as MS-DOS after some cloding and cleanup work on it.
[22:43] <Obsidian1723> The future in software as far as licensing goes is SAaS.
[22:43] <Takyoji> Anyway, other point being, I find it awkward that they say it's "what the customer wants" even though many never really exclusively requested such, and also as to why there's so much "maintenance and servicing" they get paid for each server.
[22:44] <Takyoji> even when the case is as simple as a webserver
[22:44] <Obsidian1723> yeah
[22:46] <Takyoji> I don't mind if someone wants Windows, that's fine. But it seems like force-feeding when not specifically implied considering they seem to have a lot of overhead costs associated.
[22:47] <Takyoji> and I shall be leaving to go to the Steele County Fair
[22:47] <Obsidian1723> cools. have fun.