[02:28] <pleia2> updated with doctormo's new branding revision of maco's vines: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Ideas/TShirtDesigns
[02:28] <IdleOne> maco: :)
[02:29] <hypatia> ooh, lovely
[02:29] <IdleOne> could you please remove that I seem to have locked myself out lol
[02:29] <pleia2> twit :)
[02:30] <IdleOne> hahahha
[02:30] <IdleOne> btw if you +q yourself chanserv wont op you
[02:30] <pleia2> hehe
[02:30] <IdleOne> lol
[02:30] <IdleOne> so um if someone could remove that :/
[02:30] <maco> IdleOne: i already did
[02:31] <IdleOne> on the upside pleia2 called me a twit
[02:31] <IdleOne> :)
[02:40] <valorie> so, has anyone passed this along to zareason?
[02:41] <valorie> because she is starting a tshirt etc. company
[02:41]  * valorie wants one
[02:41] <hypatia> we should totally get her to print it :)
[02:44] <pleia2> valorie: last time I spoke with cathy about it she said she didn't have time to help right now
[02:44] <pleia2> going to need to find another supplier :(
[02:45] <pleia2> I haven't had the time, so if someone else wants to work on that - please do!
[02:45] <pleia2> not sure about zareason selling them directly TBH, trademark concerns and all
[02:46] <pleia2> MarkDude: o hi
[02:47] <MarkDude> What did ZA do pleia2 ?
[02:47] <pleia2> MarkDude: we have pretty http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Ideas/TShirtDesigns
[02:47] <pleia2> valorie suggested zareason print them up, with cathy's new t-shirt company
[02:48] <MarkDude> I'll hella wear one of those
[02:48] <MarkDude> Unless it has a v neck
[02:48] <valorie> but you can't, since we don't have Tshirts printed!
[02:48] <valorie> which is the problem....
[02:48] <valorie> :-)
[02:49] <pleia2> if someone wants to nudge canonical's trademark department and then follow up with zareason to suggest it that'd be great
[02:49]  * pleia2 drowning in work for the foreseeable future
[02:49] <MarkDude> Tell them that Fedora and Red Hat are very nice to ZA if need be :)
[02:50] <pleia2> zareason did sell the case badges for a while, presumably without being bothered
[02:50]  * MarkDude is going through some books to put on ZA site
[02:51] <MarkDude> That is true
[02:51] <MarkDude> Fedora offered to *give* us some so we could put those badges on machines we install with F13
[02:52] <MarkDude> We dont make $ on the Ubuntu badges, nor the books we have up.
[02:52] <MarkDude> Its more ZA being interested in community :)
[02:53] <pleia2> if ZA was willing to sell them at cost, that might help the trademark dept sleep easy
[02:53] <pleia2> I don't know though
[02:53] <MarkDude> I of course offer my help to talk to Canonical about the shirts, I am not the 1st choice of representatives for UW tho :)
[02:54] <MarkDude> I can get something from Cathy to be given to them
[02:54] <pleia2> someone needs to do it, you can Cc: me on the trademarks email if you want
[02:55] <MarkDude> Ok
[02:55] <MarkDude> What stage are the shirts at nw?
[02:56] <MarkDude> now?
[02:58] <maco> pleia2: didnt cathy give you the name of her printer so you could negotiate on behalf of UW?
[02:59] <pleia2> maco: I don't have a relationship with the printer like cathy does, and it's actually quite a trek from where I am (it's up in berkeley)
[02:59] <maco> pleia2: when they wanted to put something about ubuntu on the flash drives that have ubuntu pre-installed, cathy had to talk to the trademark people to get the precise wording that was allowed
[02:59] <maco> MarkDude: we have a svg
[03:00] <maco> and we have a request that it NOT be across the chest as on well-endowed women it enhances too much if you put big things there
[03:00] <nigelb> pleia2: whenn somone from india loco talked to canonical, they're okay as long as there is no profit margin involved.
[03:00] <pleia2> nigelb: good to know :)
[03:01] <maco> i think a little ubuntu-women °  on the breast pocket area or middle of chest with the svg thing on the back could work
[03:01] <nigelb> (i.e., it is printed for use by ubuntu enthusiasts and not for sale)
[03:01] <MarkDude> that and the placement limits what can be seen in front, it does move some images to the side
[03:01] <pleia2> well, maybe we can ask zareason if they'll do it and negociate the trademark waters
[03:02] <maco> or just the venus-buntu logo circle...
[03:02] <maco> but like, little thing front, big thing back
[03:03]  * MarkDude will let the women decide the details on the clothes, I am of the opinion that men should shut up on these matters. I can help with whatever UW wants :)
[03:04] <pleia2> maco: can you take the lead here and talk to zareason?
[03:04] <pleia2> I don't care what they look like, I'll buy whatever comes out :)
[03:05]  * nigelb hugs pleia2 
[03:05] <nigelb> heh
[03:05] <maco> last time i asked cathy about this she was like "well yes we could do UW shirts at cost...but hey you should be sending me designs i can put in my store!"
[03:05] <maco> however i dont have enough creativity to come up with two t shirt designs in one year!
[03:06] <maco> ok i did think of something that could go on a shirt for women who go to hacker cons, but its crude, and she said no crude
[03:06] <nigelb> maco: talk to doctormo then!
[03:06] <MarkDude> maco and crude, I am shocked ;)
[03:07] <maco> there's an oft-recurring bit of innuendo when it comes to hacking shirts
[03:07] <nigelb> innuendo?
[03:09] <MarkDude> Differing standards
[03:40] <elky> There's one thing quite wrong with the new vines... there's no yellow in it.
[03:41] <maco> hmm?
[03:42] <nigelb> elky: like yello? :)
[03:42] <elky> There's the red on the edubuntu flower, orange on the ubuntu and ubuntu-women flowers, but there's no gold anywhere.
[03:46] <maco> you need a rainbow?
[03:46] <maco> there's also pink on the little debian swirl
[04:10] <elky> maco, it's just a bit heavy without the yellow imho.
[14:56] <elky> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2010-August/002965.html
[16:14] <vish> elky: 'Narwhale' -> "Narwhal" :)
[16:14] <elky> I blame midnight.
[16:15] <elky> I'm the person who struggles to type 'usr' and keeps messaging chanserve, so :P
[16:17] <vish> elky: hehe, actually why i noticed it was because, i thought i had imagined the spelling wrong.. and had to check with google first ;)
[16:26] <maco> elky: i struggle more to type "user"
[16:26] <maco> never remember that darned e
[16:26]  * czajkowski hugs maco 
[16:27] <elky> maco, I struggle to use sms speak, always have.
[16:27] <maco> sms? i'm thinking of /usr/bin/...
[16:28] <elky> maco, same concept. I learned how to spell the words. Why do i need to leave stuff out of them?
[16:28] <maco> to avoid "no such file or directory" errors?
[16:29] <elky> explain that to my brain, it's stubborn.
[16:41] <maco> in that case:  sudo ln -s /usr /user
[16:41] <elky> heh
[16:42] <nigelb> haha
[16:42]  * nigelb likes the idea
[16:42] <elky> I think it's past my bed time
[16:42] <nigelb> nah, bunk work tomorrow. :p
[16:43] <nigelb> elky: oh, wait.  2 am.  It might be.