[02:03] <sysfailure0x5a> Can someone help me find some information.  I am sure it is documented somewhere but cant find anything.
[02:05] <illunatic> !info info
[03:11] <bernardoct> Hi everyone
[03:11] <bernardoct> I'm having a problem with the twinview and wasn't able to find an answer to the problem on foruns
[03:11] <bernardoct> Can someone give me a help on this?
[03:33] <wea0> What's the reason for having dramatically decreased game performance in wine after updating karmic->lucid?
[03:38] <bernardoct> Is someone there? :)
[03:42] <illunatic> !info tty
[03:49] <kwok> ?
[03:49] <kwok> hi,here
[04:10] <wea0> What's the reason for having dramatically decreased game performance in wine after updating karmic->lucid? (I am using the same wine version as before)
[04:25] <harmandeep__> guys need help with using SSH without PASSWORD authentication ,  as described here http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch17_:_Secure_Remote_Logins_and_File_Copying#Using_SSH_and_SCP_without_a_password     .... but i am confused , whatif USERNAME on client SYSTEM ( who generated key pair ) is different than the USERNAME @ server machine
[05:20] <yudongx>  llkjlkjlkj
[05:22] <Roasted> So, question. in kubuntu I can set up screen edges to show all active windows. Can that functionality happen in gnome
[05:22] <Roasted> ?
[05:25] <well_laid_lawn> maybe try in #ubuntu ?
[05:37] <Roasted> I installed kubuntu desktop and decided I didnt want it. I did a remove + purge and autoremove, yet I still have kde-isms hanging around in gnome land, such as the mouse cursor and the 2 spinning balls and the font style.
[05:37] <Roasted> how can I revert this back
[05:42] <Dan_L> Roasted, revert it back to KDE?  Or revert it back to gnome?
[05:42] <Dan_L> Because you really should stick with KDE.  :)
[05:43] <Roasted> revert back to gnome
[05:43] <Roasted> I'd love to use kde full time.
[05:43] <Roasted> but it does a lot of things I just cant handle on a work laptop
[05:43] <Roasted> such as not unmounting devices in dolphin (errors out no matter what usb drive I plug in)
[05:43] <Roasted> sound is funky at times
[05:43] <Dan_L> guilty as charged, all counts.  There's some quirkyness.
[05:43] <Roasted> no OS is fool proof
[05:44] <Roasted> but Ive had a more reliable experience on gnome
[05:44] <Roasted> dont get me wrong tho. I fricken love kde.
[05:44] <Roasted> but as a work laptop, sometimes requirements dictate certain DEs :P
[05:44] <Roasted> I think I found out how to do this now. Theres a link on ubuntus site about going "pure gnome"
[05:45] <Dan_L> tbh, my 'work" machine (I do some freelancing) runs KDE with winxp in a vbox.  So I'm hardly a purist.
[05:45] <Dan_L> I'm rereading the undo on the KDE stuff right now, it's been quite sometime since i"ve done so, because I am a total ktard.
[05:53] <well_laid_lawn> !puregnome
[05:56] <noaXess> good morning
[05:57] <noaXess> there is a command since karmic: add-apt-repository.. i have a karmic installation, but i can't found this command.. in which package is it integrated?
[05:58] <well_laid_lawn> I think the command is apt-add-repository
[06:05] <Roasted> so I got rid of kde on my ubuntu system and even used pure gnome, but I still have weird font in firefox and whatnot due to kde being installed
[06:05] <Roasted> Im seriously about to do a fresh install cause Im sick of this, but is there any way I can get ALL of KDE's changes out of my system
[06:05] <Roasted> its quite annoying
[06:06] <well_laid_lawn> if puregnome didn't do it I can't suggest anything else - there is for reinstalls
[06:06] <well_laid_lawn> !clone
[06:08] <Roasted> wow
[06:08] <Roasted> nice
[06:08] <Roasted> never installing kde again
[06:08] <Roasted> not even firefox preference changes with font makes a difference
[06:08] <Roasted> even purged firefox's settings completely
[06:11] <well_laid_lawn> tried renaming .mozilla?
[06:12] <Roasted> yep
[06:12] <Roasted> heck I even deleted .mozilla and created a new profile all together
[06:13] <Dan_L> I'm actually having a bizarre mozilla problem right now.  I made my dad switch to linux.  He had a problem with 'downloading codecs' if you know what I"m saying.
[06:13] <Roasted> just going to do a reinstall and chalk this up to a lesson learned
[06:13] <Roasted> leave kubuntu-desktop to a fresh kubuntu install and dont screw with crossing them over
[06:13] <well_laid_lawn> there might be a clue at #mozilla
[06:13] <noaXess> well_laid_lawn: which add-apt-repository /usr/bin/add-apt-repository
[06:13] <Dan_L> for whatever reason, he goes to the home depot site, searches for a product, search page renders without the results.  It works in konqureror and it works on my kubuntu
[06:14] <well_laid_lawn> noaXess: not add-apt but apt-add
[06:14] <well_laid_lawn> noaXess: apt is the package manager you are working with
[06:14] <noaXess> well_laid_lawn: ok.. also that.. but in which package is it.. cause i can't find it on that karmic machine
[06:14] <noaXess> well_laid_lawn: i really know ;)
[06:15] <well_laid_lawn> k
[06:16] <well_laid_lawn> !find apt-add-repository
[06:16] <well_laid_lawn> noaXess: ^^
[06:16] <noaXess> well_laid_lawn: ok,, thanks
[06:16] <well_laid_lawn> !info python-software-properties
[06:16] <well_laid_lawn> !info python-software-properties karmic
[06:17] <noaXess> well_laid_lawn: ok.. i see.. thanks again ;)
[06:17] <well_laid_lawn> np :]
[06:30] <noaXess> does anybody know the status of ch.archive.ubuntu.com? it's down.. yea.. but when will it come back
[06:32] <well_laid_lawn> Dan_L: here prob doesn't have flash
[06:32] <well_laid_lawn> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[06:36] <Dan_L> well_laid_lawn:  it doesn't seem to be a flash issue.  (http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?keyword=caulk+gun&langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053) the items in the center of the page do not show up.  At all.
[06:36] <Dan_L> The element is there---it's just empty.
[06:36] <Dan_L> As an aside:  Project Dad On Linux is otherwise working really well.
[06:38] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[06:38] <well_laid_lawn> it is a resource heavy site so could his connection speed play a part?
[06:39] <Dan_L> I don't believe so.  His cable modem seems to handle everything else fine.
[06:40] <Dan_L> it runs ok in Konqueror.
[06:40] <Dan_L> It's a mozilla specific problem, I just brought it up here ot out of frustration.
[06:40] <well_laid_lawn> that's a strange one - you could try renamimg .mozilla so firefox starts with the defaults again
[06:43] <Solow> How can I reset the taskbar?
[06:43] <Solow> Its mixing up all open applications
[06:44] <well_laid_lawn> I wonder if
[06:44] <well_laid_lawn> !resetpanel
[06:44] <well_laid_lawn> yep -it's for gnome
[06:45] <Solow> yeah but kubuntu is kde :/
[06:45] <Solow> I love kde but the taskbar is annoying
[06:46] <Dan_L> Solow:  you can pretty much make it do whatever you want
[06:46] <well_laid_lawn> how is it mixing up all open applications ?
[06:46] <Solow> Well, it starts nicely
[06:46] <Solow> [ app ] [ app ]
[06:46] <Solow> but after a while it starts to do this
[06:46] <Solow> [ ap[ app ]p ]
[06:47] <Solow> of
[06:47] <noaXess> Solow: have you enabled compositing?
[06:47] <noaXess> Solow: try to disable desktop effects and test
[06:47] <Solow> [ ap [ a p ] pp ]
[06:48] <Solow> compositing?
[06:48] <noaXess> Solow: system settings / desktop / effects..
[06:48] <Solow> Where are the desktop effects located at? I couldnt find the theme manager the other day
[06:48] <noaXess> Solow: ^^
[06:49] <Dan_L> Solow:  lemme share a lil tip.  Use the keystroke launcher for _everything_.  If you don't know where it is, it will just find it
[06:49] <Solow> compositing is disabled
[06:49] <Solow> Dan_L, keystrok launcher?
[06:49] <noaXess> Solow: also desktop effects.. hm..
[06:49] <harmandeep> guys, in what instances would i be prompted to enter GPG  KEY  PASSPHRASE ... ?     would i be asked everytime i use mine GPG PRIVATE key ???
[06:50] <Solow> no desktop effects is enabled
[06:50] <Solow> should I disable it?
[06:50] <Dan_L> Solow:  Krunner.  Alt+f2 by default, I believe.
[06:51] <Solow> ah crap
[06:51] <Solow> seriously, what is compositing?
[06:52] <Solow> it said it was suspended by another application
[06:52] <Solow> and now my taskbar is gone
[06:53] <Solow> all it does, is change the color of my taskbar.
[06:53] <Solow> it just came back
[06:53] <Solow> Dan_L, Thanks, cool :)
[06:57] <Solow> I seriously want to know wth is wrong with my taskbar :/
[06:58] <well_laid_lawn> I'm thinking hardware issue if it starts ok then goes bad - what driver you using for the graphics card?
[06:59] <Solow> hardware issues?
[06:59] <Solow> I went here from ubuntu, didnt have a single problem with ubuntu
[06:59] <hoober> Kubuntu is KDE ontop of Ubuntu, yes or no?
[06:59] <Solow> besides, its not a hardware problem, its a software problem
[06:59] <Solow> yes
[07:00] <hoober> Why has my computer been slow since the install of KDE
[07:00] <Solow> well, a bit mote
[07:00] <Solow> but basically
[07:00] <hoober> my specs are enormous. KDE should not be a problem
[07:00] <Solow> Mine is starting to become slow as well
[07:00] <Solow> It started off perfectly
[07:00] <hoober> is this because of a recent update?
[07:00] <hoober> yeah
[07:00] <hoober> i will uninstall it immediately
[07:01] <poseidon2010> Slow ???? well my comp was Slow woth Ubuntu (Gnome).... now with Kubuntu it flyes..... like having XFCE  or something  similar
[07:02] <Solow> Well it is true that gnome is a tad faster that kde but, it makes no sense
[07:02] <Solow> Overall, ubuntu is very lightweight compared to windows
[07:03] <Solow> Windows runs smoothly, and kubuntu does all this weird shit
[07:03] <poseidon2010> I THINK I THINK..... the Gnome in the lates Ubuntu... is sort of broken.... and that is why KDE is faster now....
[07:03] <poseidon2010> I have here both.... Windows 7 and Kubuntu.... and Kubuntu is good as Windows 7
[07:03] <Solow> poseidon2010, Gnome aint broken, its working perfectly fine.
[07:04] <poseidon2010> well....... it was slower for me.... than Kde
[07:04] <Solow> I've installed kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu 10.04 though
[07:04] <Solow> All I know, is that the KDE session is killing me
[07:05] <Solow> and that this is a software issue
[07:05] <Solow> I wish I had the time.....
[07:05] <poseidon2010> I had Ubuntu...... and then I just wiped out everything and installed Kubuntu.... I am  happy with this KDE
[07:05] <wea0> Solow: Have you tried removing and re-adding the task manager widget? If you want to mess with the config file: All settings regarding panel applets are stored in plasma-desktop-appletsrc
[07:05] <Solow> wea0, I've done that, multiple times
[07:06] <wea0> I had Kubuntu karmic and everything was fine. Then I upgraded to lucid and everything is slow...
[07:06] <poseidon2010> Solow, maybe maybe u should just install Kubuntu from sctrach.....and save headaches...
[07:06] <Solow> poseidon2010, why? ubuntu 10.04 was running just fine, all i did was give it a new shell
[07:07] <Solow> so the headache aint because of the new shell
[07:07] <poseidon2010> Dunno my friend
[07:07] <Solow> So re-installing is pointless
[07:07] <poseidon2010> I just headed in the safest direction.... Install Kubuntu.....
[07:07] <hoober> I took a screenshot of my system monitor. Why has KDE slowed down my computer since the install? http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/3957/kdeslowness.png
[07:07] <Solow> This IS kubuntu
[07:08] <hoober> this Spubuntu. Sparta? no
[07:08] <hoober> can you help :(
[07:08] <hoober> KDE is Kubuntu. or KDe on Ubuntu == KUBuntu
[07:09] <poseidon2010> :(  I was slow with Ubuntu (Gnome) and now with Kubuntu  I am fine... I am runnning like 7 VMachines.....
[07:10] <hoober> could this be related to canceling a system test ? i had to like reboot because it never stopped gathering data
[07:10] <poseidon2010> no idea hoober
[07:11] <Solow> poseidon2010, stop the freakin promoting m8
[07:11] <Solow> We're already using kubuntu
[07:11] <well_laid_lawn> hoober: what was the test you cacelled ?
[07:11] <Solow> so unless you have something useful, please shut it.
[07:11] <poseidon2010> yes sir
[07:12] <well_laid_lawn> play nice everyone pls
[07:12] <Solow> I'm just freaking out because of this :p
[07:12] <hoober> i will look
[07:12] <Solow> I love kubuntu, I do, It's just starting to get annoying
[07:12] <hoober> on KDE the name is just System Testing
[07:12] <wea0> hoober: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/checkbox/+bug/556636 ?
[07:13] <hoober> cool
[07:13] <hoober> i am not alone :)
[07:14] <wea0> try "sudo killall -9 backend" and see whether it helps.
[07:14] <Solow> wow
[07:14] <Solow> that's a kill
[07:15] <Solow> without a new launch, or reset even it will kill the backend applications right?
[07:16] <poseidon2010> Anyone...... has tried FAI with Ubuntu ? Thanks...
[07:19] <bryan_r59> hello
[07:19] <bryan_r59> i just realized i see no process stealing 90% of my cpu
[07:19] <bryan_r59> so what else could cause the slowdown
[07:20] <bryan_r59> or do you have that launchpad link again
[07:20] <wea0> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/checkbox/+bug/556636
[07:21] <bryan_r59> ty
[07:21] <poseidon2010> Ummmmmm....Flash-plugin is a KILLER
[07:21] <poseidon2010> it eats CPU like crazy
[07:21] <wea0> I don't have that problem either, still... my system feels much slower than before the upgrade.
[07:22] <bryan_r59> wea0, did you see my screenshot? i can't find the backend program name
[07:22] <Solow> I cant enable desktop effects anymore
[07:23] <bryan_r59> is it normal for root to have 1% cpu and all others be asleep
[07:24] <well_laid_lawn> alot of services run under root
[07:24] <poseidon2010> lets say..... that u should have like an uptime smaller than 1 ......
[07:24] <bryan_r59> so
[07:24] <bryan_r59> i need to reboot once a day
[07:24] <bryan_r59> ?
[07:25] <poseidon2010> unless u are running some background program.... or listening to music... etc etc
[07:25] <bryan_r59> xorg and ksoftirq have been up longest
[07:25] <wea0> I think he means the load average displayed by uptime?
[07:26] <bryan_r59> i will try runnign a system clean
[07:26] <bryan_r59> then doing system test
[07:26] <bryan_r59> and reboot
[07:26] <poseidon2010> u can even try to kill the KDE desktop.... and  just from console see ur  uptime...
[07:28] <wea0> Anyway, my whole system feels sluggish since lucid.
[07:28] <solow> Ok kubuntu has some serious issues...
[07:28] <wea0> Is it normal that simple things like repeatedly min/maximizing a window causes ~50% CPU usage? Could anyone running kubuntu lucid on recent hardware check this out for me?
[07:28] <solow> it just signed me out
[07:28] <bryan_r59> solow, what issues?
[07:28] <bryan_r59> oh
[07:29] <solow> and now it runs smooth again
[07:29] <solow> Which is great, except for the fact I just lost 2 hours of work
[07:29] <bryan_r59> you scare me solow. i might go back to gnome until people say KDE is safe
[07:29] <poseidon2010> wea0, recente hardware here.... 5 VM ...... nothing  bigger than 10% CPU
[07:30] <solow> bryan_r59, I've gone to KDE 3 days ago. I like it, but it looks a bit unstable
[07:30] <poseidon2010> Im not scared :)
[07:31] <solow> no, you're a god.
[07:31] <bryan_r59> KDE seems like it has very useful utilities and the GUI looks nice. but from Gnome to it, I have really lost production speed
[07:32] <solow> It seems to have a lot of windows functionality
[07:32] <solow> like becoming slower after a while :p
[07:33] <poseidon2010> well.... true.... it  gets slower.... after I do HIbernate or make Sleep the machine.....
[07:33] <solow> poseidon2010, doesnt that seem weird to you?
[07:33] <solow> Thats something microshit windoze does
[07:33] <poseidon2010> Sort of......
[07:34] <solow> it goes against all laws of linux
[07:34] <poseidon2010> In my case
[07:34] <solow> linux should be lightweight, yet kick ass.
[07:34] <poseidon2010> I blame the Virtual Machines...... I was running Windows 7 insde one of them.......
[07:34] <solow> windows 7 is actually pretty stable
[07:34] <solow> And the fact it slows down, is just wrong
[07:34] <poseidon2010> and it was fine..... but after the SLEEP it woke up like a DRINK machine :P
[07:35] <poseidon2010> drunk*
[07:35] <solow> My machine is a pc on steroids
[07:35] <solow> this shouldnt be happening
[07:35] <solow> kde has some issues
[07:35] <poseidon2010> do u have as well W 7 in that machine ?
[07:35] <solow> it has great potential, but some serious issues
[07:35] <solow> poseidon2010, on a vm yes
[07:35] <solow> I need photoshit
[07:35] <poseidon2010> hehehe
[07:36] <poseidon2010> but I mean.... as the real OS.... Windows 7 .... Dual system ?
[07:36] <solow> no
[07:36] <solow> I dont do dual boot
[07:36] <solow> I hate dual boot.
[07:36] <poseidon2010> fine
[07:36] <solow> I only need linux. And photoshop, so I'm using a stripped down version of windows
[07:37] <poseidon2010> hold on.....
[07:37] <solow> and please, why all the dots?
[07:37] <solow> where's pacman when you need him
[07:37] <poseidon2010> I noticed a great deal of improvement after I upgraded to the LATEST kernel....
[07:37] <solow> (<
[07:38] <bryan_r59> How many hours do I have to wait before System Testing finishes?
[07:38] <jussi> !enter | solow
[07:38] <jussi> bryan_r59: system testing?
[07:38] <solow> jussi, seriously? where did I go overboard.
[07:39] <bryan_r59> Jussi, i found it on KDE
[07:39] <solow> I'm trying to function normally on 1.5 hours of sleep, it's really not that easy :p
[07:40] <poseidon2010> well.... a pint of beer will always help..... or not... :P
[07:41] <solow> maybe.......not.....becau...se.......beer.............makes....me...............sloooow........         .......
[07:41] <poseidon2010> :)
[07:42] <solow> ( < . . . . . . . . . . .
[07:45] <bryan_r59> em, hi
[07:45] <bryan_r59> em, how long should i wait for system testing? KDE has this application, i want to see waht it does. but so far it just gathers info for a very long time
[07:46] <bryan_r59> i am feeling uneasy
[07:46] <bryan_r59> please answer me
[07:47] <poseidon2010> dont understand..... how did you  get into that system testing ?
[07:49] <poseidon2010> bryan , are u still with us ?
[07:49] <wea0> !checkbox
[07:50] <wea0> https://launchpad.net/checkbox
[07:50] <wea0> poseidon2010: I think that's what he's running.
[07:52] <poseidon2010> weao, ok...... but well hes not with us any more....
[08:01] <buckfast> Hello
[08:02] <poseidon2010> yello
[08:02] <buckfast> I'm trying to do a software update and for some reason it shows me I have 141 blocked updates
[08:02] <buckfast> what should I do?
[08:03] <buckfast> the new kde version is also blocked there
[08:05] <poseidon2010> Good Night People....
[08:06] <wea0> buckfast: You might need to do a dist-upgrade instead of a normal upgrade?
[08:06] <buckfast> wea0: but I already have the newest version of the kubuntu distro
[08:06] <well_laid_lawn> A "blocked update" is often reported by the apt update system used (mostly) by distributions in the Debian family, and usually means that the (proposed) update would install a newer version of a library that's used by a program you've already installed, and that the installed program has not been tested with the newer version of the library. So the update is "blocked" 'til the testing is finished. (The "block" can also go the o
[08:06] <well_laid_lawn> ther way: a new version of a program may require a newer library, and the library may still be in the "testing" repository, so the update is "blocked" 'till the library is available.)
[08:07] <well_laid_lawn> a quote from http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/blocked-updates-733914/
[08:09] <buckfast> so updating in this case is not recommended?
[08:10] <well_laid_lawn> it means you can update stuff if it won't wreck something else
[08:11] <well_laid_lawn> else an update will be blocked 'till it won't wreck other things
[08:12] <well_laid_lawn> it would be nice if apt said at the end the apps were blocked because of version conflicts
[08:14] <wea0> buckfast: What exactly are you trying to update anyway? Are you trying to install kde4.5 on kubuntu lucid?
[08:16] <ezra_> Dolphin isent remembering preview settings for some folders? :(
[08:19] <well_laid_lawn> ezra_: some folders? - which ones?
[08:19] <wea0> ezra_: Might that be related to you not having write access in those directories?
[08:19] <ezra_> any now, a few worked but I dont think it saves anymore now. Such as the sub folders of home>documents
[08:20] <ezra_> well.. its my home dir... so.. if I dont have acces... then something weirds going on...
[08:23] <well_laid_lawn> ezra_: to check if you own all the files in your home dir you could run in konsole   ls -l ~ | grep -v <your_user_name>
[08:23] <wea0> ezra_: Dolphin uses a hidden file named ".directory" to store those settings. Navigate to a folder where it doesn't work and examine whether that file exists, whether you have write access and whether it has a "ViewMode=" line inside.
[08:23] <buckfast> wea0: yes, the kde update is blocked, but there could be other packages
[08:24] <wea0> buckfast: In that case you will most likely need apt-get dist-upgrade for it to succeed; however be careful as you might run into bug 615865.
[08:25] <buckfast> damn bugs
[08:25] <well_laid_lawn> you know that you use 4.5 at your own risk don't you - not for production machines
[08:25] <well_laid_lawn> !ppa
[08:26] <buckfast> it's my desktop comp, but I still don't want to mess it up
[08:27] <well_laid_lawn> you should be aware that using the latest and greatist comes with a risk is all
[08:28] <buckfast> the kde version in the stable lucid still crashed for me sometimes
[08:28] <buckfast> and seemed buggy
[08:28] <buckfast> so that's why I updated
[08:28] <wea0> I would think that you will be fine as long as you make sure to reinstall the kubuntu-desktop package, if it gets removed by the dist-upgrade. I would not vouch for that however.
[08:28] <wea0> That worked for me though.
[08:28] <alvin> Nepomuk zombies are fixed in KDE 4.5
[08:29] <alvin> For blocked update to KDE 4.5, see bug 615902
[08:29] <well_laid_lawn> buckfast: you were worried about the blocked updates - that's 'cause you installed 4.5 and there are lib versions clashes between it and 4.4
[08:30] <buckfast> okay, maybe I'll just wait until they fix their mishap
[08:30] <buckfast> well_laid_lawn: I didn't install 4.5 yet
[08:30] <buckfast> it's blocked
[08:30] <ezra_> wea0: .directory exists, but ViewMode= is not in it
[08:30] <well_laid_lawn> buckfast: sorry - don't know why I thought that then... :]
[08:31] <ezra_> instlling 4.5 dosent indeed break kubuntu
[08:31] <ezra_> does*
[08:32] <buckfast> ok, good to know =)
[08:32] <well_laid_lawn> it doesn't - just needs some extra maintenance and not alot of 4.4 apps to conflict with
[08:33] <ezra_> true
[08:33] <alvin> Some bugs are fixed, some new ones are introduces, but it's installable.
[08:34] <buckfast> I think I'll stick with the old ppa version at the moment
[08:34] <ezra_> for some reason i thought 4.5 was stable. 95% of the way though installing I noticed the "In development trunk" uh oh....
[08:34] <alvin> Bye, bye printer applet
[08:34] <alvin> KDE 4.5 is declared stable, but it uses Qt 4.7 beta
[08:35] <well_laid_lawn> where's it declared stable?
[08:35] <wea0> ezra_: Try adding a [Dolphin] section (if that doesn't exist yet) and under that add ViewMode=1
[08:35] <alvin> http://www.kde.org
[08:35] <well_laid_lawn> k
[08:35] <wea0> Thats for detail viev. ViewMode=2 is comumns view
[08:36] <ezra_> wea0: sigh, i'll try that next time.. unless theres a way to restore the system to before i installed 4.5, I need to reinstall again. Dolphin is unusable
[08:36] <well_laid_lawn> While focus within this release cycle lay on stability...
[08:37] <alvin> ezra: I don't notice any problems with Dolphin. Are you sure you have all packages? To check: $ sudo aptitude install
[08:38] <alvin> well_laid_lawn: That's a common mistake. LTS means ' longer support', not 'more stable'.
[08:38] <ezra_> i dont, the blocked updates still remain uninstalled
[08:38] <wea0> Overall I have to say I like 4.5 much better than 4.4, because it no longer has stupid bugs like the mouse wheel scrolling in the wrong direction on the taskmanager, and activities are actually useful now, and oxygen-settings
[08:38] <alvin> ezra_: In that case, see the workaround in bug 615902 (keep running $ sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade until done
[08:39] <ezra_> alvin: ok
[08:39] <ezra_> alvin: konquera also broken.. anything to be launched is broken lol
[08:40] <Erthe> Hey folks.
[08:40]  * ezra_ passes the cookies to Erthe
[08:40] <buckfast> definitely a failure update then
[08:40] <buckfast> does more harm than good
[08:40] <alvin> Afterwards, you can clean your system with aptitude in a few steps: [# aptitude install] to see the conflicts. Now for every package that says [not installed], uninstall it! [# aptitude purge freespacenotifier] and so on. Do this until [#aptitude install] doesn't complain anymore. Make sure you keep kubuntu-desktop
[08:40] <Erthe> I just added the source for backports for KDE 4.5 and all the updates were blocked.
[08:40] <well_laid_lawn> alvin: that was a quote from the website
[08:41] <wea0> ezra_: Yeah, I'd try to go through with te update; and when you're done make asolutely sure that kubuntu-desktop is installed, or you won't be able to ligin next time.
[08:41] <Erthe> Running 10.04
[08:41] <alvin> well_laid_lawn: What website?
[08:41] <buckfast> Erthe: Yes.
[08:41] <wea0> Erthe: yeah we're just discussing that
[08:41] <ezra_> wea0: okie dokie
[08:41] <Erthe> Oh.
[08:41] <buckfast> Erthe: kDE 4.5 is a failure
[08:41] <buckfast> Erthe: It will mess up your system
[08:41] <Erthe> buckfast: Well, the packaging maybe, I'm sure KDE 4.5 is fine  :D
[08:41] <wea0> Erthe: bug 615902, bug 615865
[08:41] <alvin> no, just the packages. There are several valid reasons.
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[08:43] <alvin> well_laid_lawn: Ah, now I see. I thought you meant Lucid.
[08:44] <alvin> I actually find KDE 4.5 more stable. Some things are broken because of Qt beta (krdc) and python (printer-applet), but nepomuk doesn't want to eat brains anymore.
[08:44] <Erthe> alvin: How'd you get it to install?
[08:44] <alvin> Erthe: See above bug
[08:44] <Erthe> How'd you get beyond the KDm issue?
[08:45] <alvin> Now, if only they'd fix the NFS kioslave in such a 'focus on stability release'.
[08:45] <alvin> Erthe: What kdm issue? (I know there are issues, but which one are you referring to)
[08:45] <Erthe> Everyone's reporting that after doing full-upgrade KDM is blank
[08:45] <alvin> That's because their upgrade is not complete
[08:46] <alvin> You have to do dist-upgrade --force several times until completed
[08:46] <Erthe> So full-upgrade will work?
[08:46] <Erthe> Oh
[08:46] <alvin> no, aptitude will notice too much dependency problems
[08:46] <alvin> I prefer aptitude myself, but you have to go woth apt-get this time
[08:47] <Erthe> --force is not an option to apt-get
[08:47] <alvin> -f then
[08:47] <ezra_> alvin: so despite what aptitude install says, ONLY uninstall the ones that say [not installed] ?
[08:47] <alvin> (note that aptitude will be removed in the next version of Ubuntu)
[08:47] <alvin> ezra_: Ah, that's after the upgrade itself.
[08:47] <alvin> And yes. I think it's freespacenotifier and another
[08:47] <alvin> do them one by one
[08:47] <ezra_> alvin: yes, upgrade complete
[08:48] <ezra_> Keep the following packages at their current version:
[08:48] <ezra_> kdebase-plasma [Not Installed]
[08:48] <Erthe> upgrading, bbiab
[08:48] <alvin> $ sudo aptitude purge kdebase-plasma
[08:49] <alvin> It's not installed and KDE 4.5 doesn't use it
[08:50] <ezra_> grrr i need paste bin
[08:50] <ezra_> but browser broken
[08:51] <ezra_> alvin: it want to remove kdebase-workspace etc, and leave plassma-dekstop etc, Score is 126??
[08:51] <ezra_> accept solution?
[08:51] <alvin> Hmm, no
[08:51] <alvin> Better to do things by hand first
[08:51] <alvin> What does aptitude show kdebase-wokspace say about the package?
[08:52] <alvin> ok, you need it
[08:53] <alvin> You also need plasma-desktop. Strange. Try another apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:53] <ezra_> alvin: well it dosent show anymore [not installed] .. ok
[08:53] <alvin> ah, ok, in that case, you can safely remove the package with [not installed] first
[08:53] <alvin> and retry aptitude install
[08:54] <ezra_> i have
[08:54] <alvin> other packages with 'not installed'?
[08:54] <ezra_> upgrade shows nothing to upgrade
[08:54] <ezra_> none
[08:54] <alvin> and just 'aptitude install'
[08:54] <alvin> it should also show you that nothing should be done
[08:55] <ezra_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:55] <ezra_>   kdebase-workspace-bin: Conflicts: freespacenotifier but 0.0svn1061317-0ubuntu1 is to be installed.
[08:55] <ezra_>   kdebase-workspace-data: Conflicts: freespacenotifier but 0.0svn1061317-0ubuntu1 is to be installed.
[08:55] <alvin> $ sudo aptitude purge freespacenotifier
[08:55] <ezra_> ok install returns clean now
[08:56] <alvin> Tadaam :-) Your system is clean after the upgrade. You're good now. Enjoy KDE 4.5.
[08:57] <alvin> (and learn the cups command line. printer-applet breaks after each upgrade anyway)
[08:57]  * ezra_ looks around at the GTK window decorations and broken shortcuts... mmmm this is blisss
[08:58] <ezra_> alvin: im assuimng some kind of restart now?
[08:58] <alvin> I suppose so. I always upgrade stuff like that from the console, with X down
[08:58] <ezra_> true...
[08:59] <ezra_> eeks, i forgot something!!!! 0_o
[08:59] <alvin> What?
[09:00] <ezra_> alvin: hmm nvm,.. dident seemt to make any difference...
[09:00] <ezra_> the backports repo was disabled when i ran that upgrade on konsole
[09:03] <sobczyk> hi, anyone testing kde 4.5 backports repository?
[09:04] <sobczyk> the question is, is it stable
[09:04] <wea0> lol, there seems to be only one question today
[09:05] <sobczyk> someone asked it before? :)
[09:05] <sobczyk> I need to upgrade to either 4.4.5 or directly 4.5 so I'm asking
[09:05] <wea0> I personally would deem the packages reasonably stable for testing use, however there are bugs with installing the packages themselves, namely bug 615902 and bug 615865
[09:07] <ezra_> alvin: wow.... looking good 4.5 =D
[09:09] <ezra_> alvin: <3 Thnkx =D
[09:11] <wea0> I know. Definitive inprovment over 4.4. If only I could have the looks and features of my 4.5 running lucid with the speed of my karmic ;)
[09:17] <alvin> ezra_: You're welcome.
[09:17]  * alvin is off to buy a nettop and try out kubuntu-netbook 
[09:22] <ezra_> uh oh...
[09:37] <ezra_> is "air" the default KDE theme? or is it Kubuntu's?
[10:43] <ypubuntu6> man all i have is 256k of ramon this old guy
[10:43] <ypubuntu6> nothing speeds it up.. any help
[10:43] <ypubuntu6> 256mb of ram
[10:43] <ypubuntu6> on this
[10:50] <buckfast> ypubuntu6: try a lightweight window manager like fluxbox
[11:27] <nebulas> !emulator
[11:27] <nebulas> emulator for psx one  for ubuntu
[11:30] <manolopm>  Hi, I'm trying to personalize my livecd based on kubuntu one. There is any documentation to change the content of the home directory of the default user?
[11:40] <Peace-> manolopm: ok ... lets start
[11:40] <Peace-> manolopm: every stuff you need to change is on $HOME/.kde
[11:40] <Peace-> that contains every configuration file
[11:40] <Peace-> but...
[11:40] <Peace-> if you delete it you will get the standard configuration
[11:41] <Peace-> te standard configuration is stored i think in a another folder
[11:42] <Peace-> manolopm: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/
[11:42] <Peace-> that is the folder where you will find kubuntu default settings
[11:44] <manolopm> Peace-:  Mmm yes ok, I think I explain it wrong. I got the squash uncompressed and I want to add another folder to the home user of the default user for the livecd. In the squash the home user don't exists so I supposed that someone create the home in the boot process
[11:45] <Peace-> mmm
[11:45] <Peace-> i have created my own live cd some time ago
[11:45] <Peace-> and it used my own home my own settings to create the home
[11:46] <Peace-> just install kubuntu
[11:46] <Peace-> make every change youi like
[11:46] <Peace-> in your home and in the default settings folder
[11:46] <Peace-> and it will create the copy as you want
[11:48] <manolopm> Peace-: mmm ok, its look like that you use another way that I'm trying to use... You build your fresh live from your installation (it seems) but I'm trying to modify the current live...
[11:49] <Peace-> i think remastersys is very handy
[11:49] <Peace-> install modify you installation and :) remastersys
[11:49] <Peace-> that's all
[11:50] <manolopm> ok I'll try that thanks
[12:09] <nobarking> should i defragment an NTFS partition that's shared by my gnu/linux partition?
[12:37] <solow> Where is the 'share' option in kubuntu o.0
[12:37] <solow> I want to share a folder on my lan, but i cant find the share button
[12:38] <replman> Hi! I installed 10.04 on my pc with an intel p4 cpu. I wanted to see the current cpu frequency, but the /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufrequ directory doesn't contain any files
[12:39] <replman> powernowd -v prints 8 speed steps
[13:21] <wilhart> wwhat is MEDIBUNTU and where do i get latest mplayer smplayer says that my mplayer is outdated
[13:22] <gnomefreak> wilhart: here http://www.medibuntu.org/
[13:22] <gnomefreak> its got nonfree apps in it apps we may not provide
[13:23] <wilhart> gnomefreak: what apps exaplevise?
[13:23] <gnomefreak> googleearth is one of many
[13:23] <gnomefreak> wilhart: you would have to look to see the other apps
[13:23]  * gnomefreak doesnt use it alot
[13:24] <wilhart> gnome i need mplayer from there? Adding the Repository <- this i must do?
[13:25] <wilhart> this is outdated: w64codecs
[13:25] <gnomefreak> wilhart: i dont know if they provide it. you can ask in #medibuntu
[13:26] <gnomefreak> wilhart: http://packages.medibuntu.org/ will also list them for you
[13:26] <rethus> i have removed a package (yabs) but in the menue, the entry still exist. if i click to the menu-entry, nothing happend.
[13:26] <rethus> how can i clean the whole kmenu?
[13:29] <wilhart> gnomefreak: i made repo and upgrade no mplayer that has to be upgradeeeed?
[13:29] <gnomefreak> wilhart: ask in #medibuntu as they would know
[13:29] <gnomefreak> i can not give you info on the repo and all its packages
[13:30] <wilhart> gnomefreak: check out packages, all says 404 error
[13:30] <wilhart> gnomefreak:
[13:30] <gnomefreak> http://packages.medibuntu.org/lucid/index.html
[13:30] <gnomefreak> diddnt look all that far. what version of ubuntu are you using
[13:30] <gnomefreak> if lucid use the link i gave you or join #medibuntu since ubuntu does not support it
[13:31] <gnomefreak> wilhart: yeah it is 404
[13:31] <gnomefreak> see them for more info
[13:32] <wilhart> gnomefreak: i made new mirror so now i got mplayer :D
[13:32] <gnomefreak> good
[13:32] <wilhart> gnomefreak: it upgraded mplayer but it has same version ? hmm
[13:33] <wilhart> gnomefreak: do you know any repos where the latest mplayer is?
[13:33] <gnomefreak> no
[13:33] <starslights> wilhart:  i has same as you and to update i have needed to use the ppa repo but that's not a offical update, if you want i give you the link
[13:34] <wilhart> starslights: just giev! :D
[13:34] <starslights> it was the only way to have i.e VDPAU working
[13:34] <starslights> oky 1 min
[13:34] <starslights> https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/smplayer
[13:34] <starslights> https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/mplayer
[13:35] <solow> I want to share a folder on my lan, but i cant find the share button.
[13:35] <starslights> so keep up to date with both :D
[13:35] <wilhart> gnomefreak: what is this: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:36] <gnomefreak> wilhart: that has extra packages. same ones we have in repos just as a meta package. (so you dont have to install each package)
[13:36] <wilhart> gnomefreak: i should apt-get it?
[13:37] <gnomefreak> wilhart: yes if you want but mplayer is not in it
[13:37] <gnomefreak> it has java flash and such
[13:37] <gnomefreak> starslights: care to help wilhart so i can go back to work?
[13:38] <starslights> yes sure gnomefreak, no problem, have a great day :)
[13:38] <gnomefreak> starslights: thanks
[13:38] <wilhart> gnomefreak: are they codecs orseomthing?
[13:39] <starslights> wilhart: you mosty don't need it, when you install smplayer, it will install most useful plugins
[13:40] <starslights> or just look what you need for codecs if not in the infoormation menu about codecs in smplayer
[13:41] <kish> hey, what calendar app that lets you take notes can you suggest
[13:42] <solow> I want to share a folder on my lan, but i cant find the share button.
[13:42] <wilhart> starslights: ok btw, what is mencoder?
[13:42] <kish> buttin?
[13:42] <kish> trying evolution
[13:42] <starslights> wilhart:  mencoder are to can encoding and depends of mplayer if i am right
[13:43] <wilhart> starslights: is it for playback or ripping?
[13:43] <starslights> ripping
[13:43] <wilhart> starslights: btw, what lib was it to apt-get vpdau ?
[13:43] <wilhart> so i can -vo vpdau
[13:43] <wilhart> i forgot.
[13:44] <starslights> humm , better don't install like that, if you have Nvidia Card who support it, it come with the "Nvidia current driver"
[13:44] <wilhart> libvdpau1 ?
[13:44] <wilhart> starslights: oh .....
[13:45] <wilhart> The version of MPlayer (SVN r1) installed on your system is obsolete. SMPlayer can't work well with it: some options won't work, subtitle selection may fail...
[13:45] <wilhart> Please, update your MPlayer.
[13:45] <starslights> i am not enough sure to answer you.... i think that must be as a dependance
[13:46] <starslights> what kubuntu version are you running ?
[13:46] <starslights> that's my smplayer : Version : 0.6.9 (SVN r3447)
[13:47] <starslights> from the repo i gave you before
[13:47] <wilhart> starslights: 4.5.0
[13:47] <wilhart> starslights: 10.04
[13:47] <wilhart> starslights: vpdau dosent work and gl doent work
[13:47] <wilhart> starslights: with smplayer
[13:47] <wilhart> starslights: i'm using xv now
[13:48] <starslights> yeah i know with the old version, that's why you need to update ;)
[13:48] <slow-motion> hi
[13:48] <wilhart> update mplayer ?
[13:48] <wilhart> or smplayer?
[13:48] <starslights> but maybe miss somthing as librrary, a devs will better to help you
[13:48] <solow> I want to share a folder on my lan, but i cant find the share button.
[13:48] <starslights> both, smplayer are a gui for mplayer
[13:49] <wilhart> yep.
[13:49] <wilhart> can you help with it?
[13:49] <wilhart> This is SMPlayer v. 0.6.8 (SVN r3213) running on Linux
[13:49] <wilhart> MPlayer SVN-r1.0~rc3+svn20090426-4.4.3 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
[13:49] <wilhart> there!
[13:50] <wilhart> brb
[13:51] <starslights> i run same version as you for OS , so i don't know why you don't get the same version, sorry i don't see why you still on older version ...
[13:51] <solow> ahw come on I just want to share a folder, how hard can that be :(
[13:53] <Roasted> How can I restore my GTK font settings in Firefox and Thunderbird? I had KDE installed alongside Ubuntu and I have removed KDE, ran PureGnome, but I still have the weird fonts in Thunderbird and Firefox. I even nuked the Firefox profile... still there. There has to be a way to reverti t.
[13:54] <starslights> wilhart:  i have libdvau1 and current nvidia installed about graphic libary
[13:59] <wilhart> starslights: is taht a typo ?
[13:59] <starslights> sorry i don't understand ? i don't speak English very well ,  what do you mean ?
[14:00] <wilhart> starslights: it's libvdpau1 not libdvau1
[14:01] <starslights> ah yeah sorry
[14:01] <wilhart> starslights: ok now vpaud works.
[14:01] <wilhart> starslights: do you know what gl2 and gl are? for ati cards?
[14:01] <starslights> ah good, be happy for you
[14:02] <wilhart> starslights: i'm getting flickering!!
[14:02] <wilhart> starslights: do you have glx removed in xorg.conf
[14:02] <wilhart> ?
[14:03] <wilhart> can you paste your .mplaer/config and /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[14:03] <wilhart> ?
[14:04] <starslights> it's  a library too, ATI and Nvidia handle both, but for more infos, you must see with people who have good knowlege with it.   Nope, i need to have glx  for gaming and use Opengl
[14:05] <starslights> well my xorg will not useful for you, it pretty bugged for the time, i wait the futur kernel to fix it
[14:08] <wilhart> starslights: ok
[14:10] <starslights> but if i am right xorg,conf need nothing anymore for a config, it must auto  detect your screen and peripherical, that's what it do for me
[14:10] <wilhart> i'm geting teraing!
[14:11] <wilhart> there is a mplayer-pdau
[14:12] <starslights> wilhart:  i must go to a rendez-vous, i am happy that you get smplayer working now, after their some options i don't tested, so have a good day and cya soon
[14:13] <dhq> i use kubuntu, my laptop has 3 front jack in which the mic port can be turned into a 5.1, but after an upgrade i dont have this option and am stuck with 4.0 sound
[14:13] <dhq> can anyone help
[14:14] <wilhart> starslights: do you find mplayer-pdau for me?
[14:15] <starslights> i don't know what's that , never hear
[14:15] <starslights> i am sorry ..
[14:16] <starslights> ok i am out , cya
[14:28] <glaucous> Is it safe to install the latest kernel from this ppa? http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/kernel-ppa
[14:31] <wilhart> btw
[14:31] <wilhart> i get tearing when twinview, when disableing desktop monitor and using projector only it doesnt tear? what to do?
[14:32] <wilhart> shuld i try X screen ?
[14:39] <wilhart> cant get x screen to work
[14:42] <solow> is there like windows has, some sort of application manager?
[14:42] <solow> So I can uninstall etc
[14:43] <solow> found it
[14:44] <solow> okay, I havent. Ubuntu software center crashes after I enter my password.
[14:49] <wilhart> got rid of teraing and flickering
[14:54] <wilhart> ok
[14:55] <wilhart> i got solution for teraing with nvidia and (S)mplayer
[14:59] <wilhart> can you use glx for twinview ?
[15:05] <glaucous> Anyone got a tip of a good QT MPD client?
[15:08] <solow> I just uninstalled gwibber, and my entire applications menu is empty
[15:08] <solow> what happend!
[15:10] <wilhart> ok
[15:10] <wilhart> anyone with nvidia and twinview?
[15:10] <wilhart> using mplayer?
[15:16] <wilhart> i lost my pbkacback/recording through the pulseaudio sound in phonon - sytem settings, how do i get this back?
[15:16] <wilhart> it's disabled (gray)
[15:16] <wilhart> under that is my soundcard
[15:25] <wilhart> my pulse volume control says: Connection failed: Connection refused
[15:25] <wilhart> how do i fix this?
[15:36] <alvin> Hmm, is there a bug in KDE 4.5: 'can't burn images with K3B anymore'?
[15:37] <alvin> I used K3B to erase a cd. That worked. The device notifier says it's a blank cd now, but I can't burn to it.
[15:41] <okapi14> hi all, I have this error that I can not fix. Anyone has an idea "Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/libswt-gtk-3.6-java_3.6-1~ppa4_i386.deb"
[15:45] <troopperi> okapi14: sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get update
[15:46] <Roasted> How can I restore my GTK font settings in Firefox and Thunderbird? I had KDE installed alongside Ubuntu and I have removed KDE, ran PureGnome, but I still have the weird fonts in Thunderbird and Firefox. I even nuked the Firefox profile... still there. There has to be a way to revert it.
[15:48] <okapi14> trooper: did that without chance
[15:49] <troopperi> okapi14: no errors?
[15:49] <okapi14> trooper: yes, still have my error
[15:53] <troopperi> Roasted: first backup your bookmarks and mails, then go to your home folder, change to see hidden folders (alt+.)and delete .mozilla folder. Its zero your settings to browser.
[15:57] <Roasted> troopperi, wanna know something funny
[15:58] <Roasted> I did that....
[15:58] <Roasted> I even uninstalled firefox, purged it, and reinstalled.
[15:58] <troopperi> Roasted: you restart your machine?
[15:58] <Roasted> troopperi, of course. I even reinstalled Ubuntu (but kept my home dir)
[15:59] <Roasted> I didnt uninstall, reboot, and reinstall tho
[15:59] <Roasted> if thats waht you mean
[16:03] <wilhart> anyone here? guru on soundblaster and pulse?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> hello folks
[16:12] <okapi14> troopper: do you have any other idea for me?
[16:13] <okapi14> troopperi: do you have any other idea for me?
[16:13] <troopperi> okapi14: Do you use newer version that program? My kpackagekit shows that version is 3.5.1
[16:15] <okapi14> troopperi: on my synaptics I have the version 3.6
[16:15] <wilhart> how do i get pulse server workin i get: E: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[16:15] <wilhart> i want pulseaudio in system settings -> sound
[16:28] <BluesKaj> wilhart, which kubuntu version are you running and which souyndcard ?
[16:29] <BluesKaj> soundcard
[16:30] <wilhart> BluesKaj: i got soundblatser f-xi audio
[16:31] <wilhart> BluesKaj: i want pulseaudio to go for the frist selected device but there is nothing just my soundblatser there
[16:31] <wilhart> BluesKaj: the thing is that i need to get an equalizer
[16:31] <wilhart> and pulse has en global equalizer
[16:34] <BluesKaj> wilhart, you can find an eq in your package manager, you don't need pulseaudio for that.
[16:34] <BluesKaj> wilhart, you can always install pulseaudio if you want
[16:35] <wilhart> BluesKaj: no i want equalizer dont need pulse if there is a eq manager?
[16:36] <BluesKaj> !pm |wilhart
[16:38] <wilhart> ok
[16:42] <wilhart> BluesKaj: ok i removed whole pulseaudio
[16:42] <wilhart> BluesKaj: how do i enable equzalizer now?
[16:42] <wilhart> BluesKaj: i have x-fi extreme audio SB0790) (ca0106
[16:43] <wilhart> BluesKaj: i need global equalizer for x-fi extreme
[16:46] <wilhart> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrSKOJg_e8M&p=E085FFA94C5265BD&playnext=1&index=71
[16:46] <wilhart> that' need pulse audio device drivers! i need one for soundblaster
[16:47] <BluesKaj> look in the package manager for sound equalizer, wilhart, Tom's Audio Processing LADSPA plugins
[16:48] <BluesKaj> wilhart, why did you remove pulseaudio , I didn't tell you to remove it
[16:49] <wilhart> BluesKaj: give me a url for lucid how toinstall pulseaudio, i've googled 50 times in google for a good site
[16:50] <BluesKaj> wilhart, in the terminal , sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[16:51] <wilhart> BluesKaj: ok then?
[16:51] <BluesKaj> wilhart, did it install ?
[16:51] <wilhart> BluesKaj: yep
[16:52] <BluesKaj> ok check system settings/multimedia
[16:52] <wilhart> phonon ?
[16:52] <wilhart> BluesKaj: yes there nothing there just x-fi extreme audio and ca0106 and jack audio
[16:54] <wilhart> BluesKaj: this is odd, why doesnt it work......
[16:55] <BluesKaj> phonon, yes
[16:55] <wilhart> yep
[16:56] <BluesKaj> ok wilhart, in the terminal type alsamixer ,
[16:56] <BluesKaj> make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[16:56] <BluesKaj> then turn those controls up to the max.
[16:57] <wilhart> BluesKaj: my sound works
[16:57] <wilhart> BluesKaj: but not pulseaudio
[16:57] <wilhart> wilhart@dragonfly:~$ pulseaudio -D
[16:57] <wilhart> E: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[17:01] <sergio> salve
[17:01] <sergio> !list
[17:03] <sergio> tutto bene
[17:05] <wilhart> blueskaj got any iidea?
[17:31] <hagabaka> anyone using radeon r300/r300g with x-edgers ppa, and cannot get KDE desktop effects to enable?
[18:01] <Scunizi> I goofed.. opened Akonadi Configuration > Clicked on "Local Folders" > clicked on Modify > clicked Cancel .... now Akonadi doesn't know where the "Outbox" is for kmail.. how do I remedy this?
[18:40] <Guest83563> Hi there, does anyone experiences problems with digikam after upgrading to 4.5? There is a dependency to libmarblewidget4, which is not fulfilled here.
[18:40] <buckfast> dependency hell...
[18:42] <Guest83563> So there is no digikam package in backports using the current libmarblewidget10?
[18:58] <sergio__> salve
[18:58] <sergio__> !list
[18:59] <sergio__> salve
[19:02] <nikitis> How do I make KDE connect to my router wirelessly without having to log in first?
[19:04] <Tm_T> nikitis: then it won't be KDE doing the job
[19:05] <Tm_T> nikitis: I wonder if there's commandline tools for networkmanager
[19:05] <nikitis> Tm_T: Okay, know how I can make init or whatever auto connect to my router?
[19:24] <jimmy51_> from a terminal, how can i partition a drive such that the last 5 GB are swap, and the rest is ext3?
[19:24] <jimmy51_> sdb
[19:26] <kurumin_> ola
[19:28] <BluesKaj> jimmy51_, best to burn a gparted live cd and use that to setup your partitions ...it's not possible edit partitions that you are running on.
[19:31] <jimmy51_> BluesKaj: i'm not running on it.
[19:36] <BluesKaj> jimmy51_, http://www.ehow.com/how_1000631_hard-drive-linux.html
[19:46] <toptop> g
[19:49] <ablyss> whats up w/ ksystemlog viewer asking permissions everytime?
[19:51] <leeb9972> gah! how do i list channels on this server? using Konversation
[19:52] <ablyss> try /list
[19:53] <leeb9972> lol thanks, i found the command :D
[19:54] <ablyss> u tried opera's built in irc ?
[19:54] <Pici> /msg alis help list
[19:54] <leeb9972> didnt know opera had a built in irc?
[19:54] <leeb9972> what irc client u guys reccomend?
[19:54] <leeb9972> i used mirc on wondows
[19:55] <ablyss> opera irc.  and i've tried them all
[19:55] <brad__> kvirc is pretty good
[19:56] <ablyss> mirc is fun for scripting but little buggy, non-free, and bloated
[19:57] <ablyss> when I used mirc I scripted the GUI to look like opera, lol
[20:10] <nikitis> Anyone know why When i mount a usb ntfs drive I cannot see the files?  I can create new files and it's mounted but I cannot see the previously made files
[20:13] <brad__> nikitis: are you looking at the files with konqueror or dolphin, or in something like openoffice?
[20:13] <nikitis> brad__, dolphin
[20:13] <nikitis> brad__, but i couldn't see them via commandline either
[20:14] <nikitis> brad__, i plugged it into a windows box and the files are there
[20:14] <brad__> ah, i see.  dunno if i have an answer, probably don't.  what version of kubuntu are you running?
[20:14] <nikitis> brad__, 10.04
[20:15] <brad__> yeah, i don't know, sorry bro
[20:15] <nikitis> brad__, i mounted it in fstab here are my options. ntfs  auto,rw,user,exec,sync   0       0
[20:21] <BluesKaj> nikitis, dolphin / places ?
[20:21] <nikitis> it's mounted to /home/<me>/Freeagent
[20:22] <hero> Hello
[20:22] <hero> I have 14e4:4357, please help my connect with wireless.
[20:22] <nikitis> the whole line is uuid="<uuid of blkid here for drive>"  /home/<user>/freeagent ntfs auto,rw,user,exec,sync 0 0
[20:23] <nikitis> BluesKaj, it seems to mount, but when i go into the drive, the current contents aren't listed.  I know the files are there as they show up on the windows box
[20:23] <nikitis> BluesKaj, do I have to set a UID or something?
[20:23] <BluesKaj> nikitis, are they encrypted?
[20:23] <nikitis> nope
[20:24] <nikitis> I didn't think so, i just now checked, and nope
[20:26] <hero> Can somebody help me? I have Broadcom 14e4:4357
[20:27] <hero> I can't use wireless :S
[20:35] <hero> Can somebody help me use wireless?
[20:36] <jlab> amarok isnt finding my itunes music. could somebody help?
[20:36] <odla> hero: what card?
[20:37] <odla> jlab: are you telling amarok to look in the correct directory?
[20:37] <odla> hero: no pm please
[20:37] <hero> kk
[20:37] <hero> sorry
[20:37] <hero> 14e4:4357
[20:37] <odla> what does it say from lspci (run that command in a terminal)
[20:38] <jlab> odla, yes. its in a seperate partition (obviously) but i selected it in the collection menu. Im also using Ubuntu
[20:39] <hero> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 01)
[20:39] <hero> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Device 4357 (rev 01)
[20:39] <odla> jlab: and the partition is mounted?
[20:39] <jlab> odla, yes because i share my windows profile so I have all the same bookmarks, and that works fine
[20:40] <odla> hero: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1539064
[20:40] <odla> hero: sounds you just need to install the drivers :)
[20:40] <odla> jlab: hrm ... so it isn't an easy fix :(
[20:40] <odla> i don't know then
[20:41] <hero> How can I install them?
[20:41] <hero> I have them downloaded in my desktop
[20:41] <odla> hero: kubuntu or ubuntu?
[20:41] <hero> kubuntu
[20:42] <odla> hero: kmenu -> Applications -> System -> hardware drivers
[20:42] <jlab> odla, have you heard of this problem?
[20:42] <odla> hero: see if kubuntu will automatically install it
[20:42] <odla> jlab: no i haven't :(
[20:42] <odla> jlab: you might ask in #amarok
[20:42] <odla> brb
[20:42] <hero> thanks, I am trying
[20:43] <hero> odla do you have msn?
[20:44] <jlab> odla quit
[20:46] <odla> hero: any luck?
[20:47] <jlab> odla, so i right click an mp3 and say open in amarok but it doesnt play
[20:47] <jlab> and it works in the default player
[20:47] <odla> jlab: oh ... do you have the codecs installed?
[20:48] <jlab> odla, i thought i did, but maybe not. how do i do that again?
[20:49] <odla> jlab: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:52] <jlab> odla i did that still does play also amarok never closes when i say close
[20:52] <odla> doesn't play?
[20:52] <odla> jlab: yeah when you 'close' amarok ... it really just hides in the indicator area
[20:53] <odla> jlab: you have to go and close it there :p
[20:53] <jlab> i do haha
[20:53] <jlab> and yes doesnt play
[20:54] <odla> hrm ... i don't know why it doesn't play though
[20:54] <jlab> odla no problem i'll figure it out later thanks for your help
[20:57] <hero> thank you very much odla
[20:57] <hero> it all worked
[20:57] <odla> glad to hear it
[20:57] <hero> <3
[20:57] <hero> do you have msn?
[20:58] <odla> nope
[21:01] <hero> skype?
[21:02] <brad__> hero: i'll bet he has irc ;)
[21:02] <hero> I doubt it ^^haha
[21:03] <odla> yes i bet he has irc too
[21:03] <odla> ;)
[21:04] <hero> ;O
[21:34] <Poker> hi , i have problem with hdmi resolution , i plug my labtop to the lcd screen via hdmi but the resolution is not correct , my laptop dell inspiron dell laptop and video card is intel Graphics Media , and my os kubuntu 10.4
[22:07] <korl> hi
[22:07] <korl> I can start KDE
[22:08] <korl> I can't start KDE It crash
[22:08] <korl> I use ATI Free driver
[22:11] <korl> any idea?
[22:20] <Guest77846> FloodBotK2: test
[22:46] <Poker>  hi , i have problem with hdmi resolution , i plug my labtop to the lcd screen via hdmi but the resolution is not correct my  taskbar out of sight! , my laptop dell inspiron dell laptop and video card is intel Graphics Media , and my os kubuntu 10.4
[22:47] <JuJuBee> I just did fresh install of 10.04 on a box that sits between my home network and my cable modem but cant get both ethernet interfaces up.
[22:47] <JuJuBee> My /etc/network/interfaces is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/481152/
[22:49] <olskolirc> ill take a look JuJuBee
[22:50] <JuJuBee> thanks
[22:53] <Poker>  hi , i have problem with hdmi resolution , i plug my labtop to the lcd screen via hdmi but the resolution is not correct my  taskbar out of sight! , my laptop dell inspiron dell laptop and video card is intel Graphics Media , and my os kubuntu 10.4
[22:57] <gio_gt> Poker: first thing I would try to do: with your lcd screen connected, open a terminal and execute command "xrandr --auto"
[22:58] <JuJuBee> olskolirc: did you see anything wrong?
[22:58] <olskolirc> oh snap JuJuBee i got side tracked
[22:58] <olskolirc> ok ill look now JuJuBee
[22:58] <Poker> gio_gt, i do it before
[22:59] <Poker> gio_gt, second thing ?
[22:59] <gio_gt> Poker: before? what do you mean? did you do it before connecting the screen?
[23:00] <gio_gt> Poker: you should do it after connecting the screen
[23:00] <Poker> no i mean i do that thing
[23:00] <Poker> yes after connecting the lcd i do it
[23:00] <Poker> that what i mean
[23:00] <gio_gt> Poker: oh, I see.. have you tried to go in System Settings => Display and Monitor and configure it from there?
[23:01] <Poker> gio_gt, yes
[23:01] <olskolirc> i don't know JuJuBee I don't have an /etc/iptables.up.rules
[23:01] <olskolirc> the problem might be in your iptables
[23:02] <gio_gt> Poker: have you tried to change the screen resolution to a lower one then set it again to the correct one?
[23:02] <Poker> gio_gt, yes
[23:02] <JuJuBee> I use iptables for firewall.
[23:02] <Poker> gio_gt, and i try to set new resolution for my lcd by xrandr --addmode etc ..
[23:03] <gio_gt> Poker: uh, you did try that, too. So unfortunately I am running out of ideas.
[23:03] <Poker> lol np
[23:03] <olskolirc> does ubuntu "need" a firewall?
[23:03] <gio_gt> Poker: I hope that someone more prepared than me on this subject could help you
[23:04] <JuJuBee> olskolirc: only if the box is between internal LAN and Internet.  I use it cause I have kids...
[23:04] <JuJuBee> Was working fine before fresh install
[23:05] <olskolirc> Poker, "sudo jockey-kde" and upgrade your video driver
[23:05] <Poker> gio_gt,  my laptop resolution is 1280x800 and i make new resolution for my lcd the 1280x800 , but when i try to refresh the new resolution i get no signal lol
[23:06] <Poker> olskolirc, ok
[23:06] <JuJuBee> olskolirc: Im just looking to get my eth0 to come up automatically on restart with the settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[23:06] <gio_gt> uh, actually that _is_ a good idea
[23:07] <Poker> olskolirc, there is no video card only wirless
[23:07] <gio_gt> Poker: no video card? impossible.
[23:07] <Poker> gio_gt, really !
[23:07] <Poker> lool
[23:07] <olskolirc> I don't understand that Poker no video card
[23:08] <Poker> olskolirc, wait i capture my screen
[23:08] <olskolirc> Poker on the machine that has no video card do: sudo ifup eth1
[23:09] <Poker> olskolirc, rsv
[23:10] <Poker> olskolirc, Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
[23:12] <Poker> lool
[23:12] <gio_gt> Poker: you said you have a laptop, right? So that laptop must have a video card inside, otherwise you would not see anything in laptop screen
[23:12] <olskolirc> Poker, dear, don't send files without permission
[23:12] <olskolirc> the best i can tell you is to install dongle support for wireless
[23:13] <Poker> olskolirc, to make u understand what i mean with no card video lol
[23:13] <Poker> olskolirc, i don`t need the wireless right now , i want to solve the problem with my screen
[23:13] <olskolirc> right Poker but ask anyway you just crashed my ms virtualbox, i don't have the cpu right now
[23:14] <Poker> olskolirc, :S How i do that ?
[23:14] <JuJuBee> olskolirc: how do I get eth0 to get the desired settings on restart?
[23:14] <olskolirc> sudo apt-get install orange: Poker
[23:15] <olskolirc> oh wait
[23:15] <olskolirc> that orange was for JuJuBee
[23:15] <olskolirc> Poker, it looks like you have no video support
[23:15] <JuJuBee> olskolirc: ?
[23:15] <Poker> olskolirc, ok then bring coffee please :P
[23:15] <Poker> olskolirc, how i support my video card ?
[23:16] <olskolirc> JuJu do "sudo apt-get install orange" for your wireless support and see if that helps
[23:16] <olskolirc> what card is it exactly Poker
[23:16] <JuJuBee> olskolirc: wireless?  Don't have wireless
[23:16] <JuJuBee> both are wired interfaces
[23:16] <Poker> olskolirc, what the command for video card ? i forget it
[23:17] <olskolirc> sudo jockey-kde Poker
[23:17] <olskolirc> everything is hard wired JuJuBee ?
[23:17] <Poker> olskolirc, there is nothing on jockey-kde , only wireless card not activated
[23:17] <JuJuBee> yes
[23:17] <JuJuBee> I have 2 Gig interfaces
[23:18] <Poker> olskolirc, anyway my video card is intel
[23:18] <olskolirc> sudo ifdown eth1 JuJuBee
[23:18] <olskolirc> or sudo ifconfig eth1 down JuJuBee
[23:18] <JuJuBee> I can't do that, I am ssh'ed into that box over that interface
[23:18] <olskolirc> and then up JuJuBee
[23:18] <JuJuBee> Besides, it is eth0 I am having trouble with.
[23:18] <olskolirc> i don't know then JuJuBee
[23:18] <olskolirc> eth0 it then
[23:19] <JuJuBee> ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[23:19] <Poker> olskolirc, btw the problem only on hdmi , on RGP there is no problem
[23:19] <olskolirc> i hate when that happens lmbo :-(
[23:19] <joiner> any idea?
[23:20] <erso> my pc is getting slow :(
[23:20] <joiner> I can't start kde from kubuntu or Live-cd
[23:20] <olskolirc> http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=ubuntu+hdmi+support+SOLVED&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=7db4f7af4a13aa89 have at it Poker
[23:21] <Poker> olskolirc, ok thanks wait i will try it
[23:21] <olskolirc> im going back to work now
[23:23] <JuJuBee> olskolirc: seems it is iptables causing the problem...  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/481172/
[23:25] <olskolirc> JuJuBee, look at line 47 of your iptables rules in your config file
[23:25] <olskolirc> line 47 is wrong JuJuBee
[23:26] <JuJuBee> olskolirc: there is no line 47 only goes to line 43
[23:26] <JuJuBee> weird...
[23:26] <Poker> olskolirc, not solved :(
[23:26] <solow> kubuntu isnt recognizing any of my usb flash drives... why?
[23:26] <olskolirc> yeah Poker your interface doesn't look supported
[23:26] <joiner> any idea?
[23:26] <solow> JuJuBee, Dont forget that includes also take up lines.
[23:27] <JuJuBee> solow: still, last line is line 43 according to nano ^c
[23:27] <Poker> olskolirc, :(
[23:27] <solow> JuJuBee, what is it, bash? sh?
[23:27] <JuJuBee> bash
[23:28] <solow> JuJuBee, any line saying: . ./some/path
[23:28] <solow> anything starting with a dot, ending in a path
[23:28] <JuJuBee> I did iptables-save > iptables.20100820.txt before doing upgrade then iptables-restore < iptables.20100820.txt after so the rules should be ok
[23:29] <solow> not if it gives you a non existing line
[23:29] <JuJuBee> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/481174/ = my iptables-save file
[23:29] <solow> So, any idea why it's not recognizing any of my flash drives?
[23:29] <olskolirc> whatever you do JuJuBee make sure you copy and .bak your file
[23:30] <JuJuBee> olskolirc: which file are you talking about?
[23:30] <olskolirc> your iptables JuJuBee
[23:30] <olskolirc> in case you cause a total disaster
[23:30] <solow> JuJuBee, I just joined, is it about an error?
[23:31] <JuJuBee> solow: kind of.  I am trying to figure out why eth0 doesn't come up.
[23:31] <olskolirc> this is his problem solow http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/481172/
[23:31] <solow> hmmm
[23:32] <JuJuBee> solow sudo ifup eth0 gives...
[23:32] <JuJuBee> SIOCADDRT: No such process
[23:32] <JuJuBee> Failed to bring up eth0.
[23:32] <solow> weird
[23:32] <solow> did you mess with it?
[23:33] <JuJuBee> I just did a fresh install
[23:33] <solow> ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[23:33] <solow> ah i see
[23:33] <solow> Configuring is a bitch
[23:33] <JuJuBee> in a new partition, so I still have previous install
[23:34] <olskolirc> how do I update my kernel to the current Lucid kernel folks?  I keep logging into 2.6.31-22-generic
[23:34] <olskolirc> on karmic
[23:34] <solow> Sorry I cant help you out, thats not my code, so i dont know what it does.
[23:35] <JuJuBee> solow these rules were working as of 9am this morning.
[23:35] <solow> JuJuBee, what did you change
[23:35] <JuJuBee> solow nothing in iptables
[23:36] <JuJuBee> if i comment out the pre-up statement in my interfaces file, it still won't come up.
[23:36] <joiner> help
[23:36] <solow> pebkac, if it stopped working, you did something wrong.
[23:36] <joiner> Could not open library ksmserver: Cannot load library /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_ksmserver.so: (libatiuki.so.1: no se puede abrír el archivo de objeto compartido: No existe el archivo o directorio)
[23:37] <joiner> sorry
[23:43] <joiner> I unninstalled fglrx
[23:50] <Poker> gio_gt, are u here ?