[01:02] <tntc> If I drop a simple kernel patch into launchpad, how long will it take to be commited?
[01:02] <penguin42> tntc: It depends....
[01:03] <tntc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gentoo/+bug/609234
[01:03] <tntc> shit, wrong bug
[01:03] <penguin42> tntc: I did that and was told to mail the ubuntu-kernel mailing list, they suggested also forwarding it upstream to the maintainer fo that subsystem, I already had and he said that it was good, and a few days later the ubuntu-kernel guys dropped it in
[01:03] <tntc> wait, no, right bug
[01:04] <penguin42> tntc: OK, the fact Matthew Garrett says he likes it is a good sign
[01:06] <tntc> penguin42: right, but that wasn't my submission.  Also, it was commited a month ago. http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff_plain;h=d5164dbf1f651d1e955b158fb70a9c844cc91cd1
[01:07] <penguin42> tntc: It looks like it's due for 2.6.36-rc1, however I think maverick has 2.6.35.1 - if you're sure it isn't in Mavericks kernel then mail the ubuntu-kernel mailing list, showing the bug, point them at the thread where it was described at Mat Garrett said OK and ask them to put it because it fixes your machine for you
[01:08] <tntc> okie dokie
[01:08] <tntc> thanks penguin42
[01:08] <penguin42> tntc: I can't guarantee what they'll say, but a patch I submitted they've put into the Maverick one after a little thinking about
[01:08] <tntc> penguin42: I think it's a regression as well. 2.6.32 works fine
[01:09] <penguin42> oh that's an even better argument :-)
[01:56] <lubun2> looks like bash completion is broken.  in a root terminal, cant' cd ~user anymore
[01:58] <jcole> lubun2: cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~
[01:58] <jcole> lubun2: make a backup of your current ﻿~﻿/.bashrc
[01:59] <lubun2> jcole, what's that gonna do?
[02:09] <jcole> ﻿lubun2: restore your original bash settings
[02:12] <lubun2> jcole, sorry but there's nothing wrong in my bash settings
[02:15] <lubun2> jcole, it was working until very recently
[02:15] <jcole> lubun2: are you sourcing /etc/bash_completion in your current bash config
[02:16] <jcole> lubun2: . /etc/bash_completion
[02:18] <lubun2> jcole, it's set in /etc/bash.bashrc
[02:25] <jcole> lubun2: i would try to source ﻿/etc/bash_completion manually and see if that solves you problem... and if it does, then its how you are invoking your shell (gnome-terminal, xterm) or something is messed up in ﻿~﻿/.bashrc
[02:42] <h00k> So, I just had a kernel issue and it is asking me to install the upstream version. I did this once before, but I don't remember what I installed.
[02:43] <h00k> is it just 2.6.35-16-generic? because that's what I already have installed
[02:43] <h00k> ooh mainline
[02:44] <h00k> Got it: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.35-rc6-maverick/
[02:45] <bbordwell> h00k, your problem was not "BUG: scheduling while atomic was it?
[02:51] <h00k> turns out it was. But you left
[02:53]  * h00k scours launchpad
[03:00] <h00k> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16588
[03:00] <h00k> Oh look. There it is.
[04:45] <ripps> The latest kernel keeps giving kernel oops
[05:36] <Jordan_U> ripps: "Schedualing while atomic"?
[06:57] <MarkusT> I'm missing my middle mouse click to open links and close tabs in Chromium (and Fx). Any ideas on how to get it back?
[07:05] <ripps> Jordan_U: sorry I was out. Yeah, that's what I'm getting
[07:05] <Jordan_U> ripps: I'm getting it as well, can't report it currently as apport is hanging though.
[08:35] <[diablo]> morning all... I have 10.10 (all up to date) as a KVM guest. I notice that the mouse pointer is vanishing when stationary for more than 2 seconds... anyone else encountered this please?
[08:58] <DanaG> [diablo]: it's a "feature".  "unclutter".
[08:58] <DanaG> The timeout is obnoxiously short, though.
[08:59]  * DanaG goes over to whoever thought 2 seconds would be good, and makes his mouse disappear from his desk every 2 seconds.
[08:59] <DanaG> =þ
[09:00] <SwedeMike> my securecrt makes the mouse pointer go away as soon as I type in the window (this is on windows though)
[09:00] <SwedeMike> that could be a good compromise
[09:01] <SwedeMike> 2 seconds seems fine for me though, I usually don't need to see the mouse pointer unless I'm actgually moving it
[09:05] <[diablo]> DanaG, sorry back now
[09:06] <[diablo]> DanaG, your kidding me right?
[09:06] <DanaG> I'd say 5 seconds would be better.
[09:09] <[diablo]> DanaG, I mean that it vanishes ...
[09:31] <DanaG> [ Fail ] - Video initialization failed: No available video device.    GLES initialization failed: SDL_gles is incompatible with this SDL version.    GLES create context: EGL failed to find any valid config with required attributes: EGL_BAD_DISPLAY
[10:05] <nocturn> I installed Maverick yesterday, but there's no power-management/battery icon any more, can I get it back somehow or is this a bug?
[10:11] <DanaG> Try starting gnome-power-manager in console.
[10:11] <DanaG> Ah, seen 35 times in rapid sucession earlier today:
[10:11] <DanaG> "Report a problem... closed unexpectedly."
[10:20] <nocturn> Ok, it's broken
[10:20] <nocturn> No prob
[10:21] <nocturn> The Empathy settings thing is more annoying...
[10:33] <nocturn> Gnome-power-management issue reported
[10:34] <yofel_> btw, packages.ubuntu.com seems fixed
[10:34] <nocturn> If I log in, my sound is always muted, even though it was normal on shutdown, anyone else experiencing this?
[10:35] <yofel> not here (KDE) but I did hear others talking about that
[10:35] <nocturn> Ok, than it's not a setting problem here
[10:36] <DanaG> nocturn: is yours giving BadAtom on G-P-M?
[10:37] <nocturn> DanaG: Yes  (The error was 'BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter)'.)
[10:40] <DanaG> Mind linking me to your report?  I'l confirm it.  Happens only with "radeon", for me.
[10:45] <nocturn> DanaG: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/621006
[10:45] <nocturn> Nvidia for me
[10:46] <nocturn> Maybe compiz related
[10:49] <DanaG> Okay, confirmed.
[12:00] <gnomefreak> nocturn: bug 455420 sound bug
[12:00] <gnomefreak> nocturn: bug 455420 sound bug
[12:54] <Fudge> ooh alpha3
[13:59] <ZykoticK9> Trouble trying to create screencast on Maverick.  Using ffmpeg getting "Unknown input 'x11grab', http://paste.ubuntu.com/480934/  Using xvidcap getting, error loading shared libraries: libavutil.so.49 http://paste.ubuntu.com/480937/  Anyone have solution to either of these errors, or suggestions on another screencast option?
[14:02] <penguin42> ZykoticK9: libavutil.so.49 looks like it's in the libavutil49 package
[14:02]  * penguin42 hugs apt-file
[14:04] <ZykoticK9> penguin42, thank you!  xvidcap is now starting.  guess i'm guilty of not checking the obvious on that one ;)
[14:08] <penguin42> hi
[14:09] <penguin42> ZykoticK9: no problem
[14:11] <gnomefreak> i thought that was bumped to 50 or 51
[14:12] <gnomefreak> 49 and 50 are in marverick
[14:12] <ZykoticK9> gnomefreak, libavutil.so.50.15.1 is the actual maverick default version
[14:14] <gnomefreak> n/win 4
[14:28] <Sbioko> hi
[14:28] <Sbioko> 10.10 does not want to start up
[14:28] <Sbioko> I see(on boot) debug log
[14:28] <Sbioko> Call trace
[14:28] <Sbioko> something like that
[14:28] <Sbioko> and it stops on "waiting_zombie_task"
[14:29] <Sbioko> and my Caps Lock is blinking
[14:29] <Sbioko> how can I fix it?
[14:29] <penguin42> Sbioko: Can you take a picture with a digital camera?
[14:29] <penguin42> then we can see more of the trace
[14:29] <Sbioko> sorry, but no
[14:30] <Sbioko> I dont have it at the moment
[14:30] <penguin42> ok, what graphics card do you have?
[14:30] <Sbioko> Nvidia
[14:30] <Sbioko> Nvidia GeForce 7120M
[14:30] <Sbioko> laptop
[14:31] <penguin42> ok
[14:31] <Sbioko> 7150M
[14:31] <gnomefreak> Sbioko: are you able to get a TTY?
[14:31] <Sbioko> get what?
[14:31] <Sbioko> :-))
[14:31] <gnomefreak> Sbioko: a terminal
[14:31] <Sbioko> in recovery console?
[14:31] <penguin42> can you read a bit more of the backtrace perhaps - it's a bit difficult to know from just the wait_zombie_task - a few lines before might give more idea
[14:31] <Sbioko> oops
[14:31] <gnomefreak> ctrl+alt+F2
[14:31] <Sbioko> recovery mode
[14:31] <gnomefreak> Sbioko: recovery is good
[14:31] <gnomefreak> i think
[14:32] <penguin42> gnomefreak: if it's blinking the keyboard lights that's normally an oops bad enough that console switching etc won't work
[14:32] <gnomefreak> Sbioko: remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf  that might help at least get  a GUI
[14:33] <gnomefreak> penguin42: i thought too but if he is in recovery and we cant see the log we cant help
[14:33] <penguin42> yeh
[14:33] <Sbioko> so
[14:33] <gnomefreak> if he is able to get a GUi he can post the log somewhere
[14:33] <Sbioko> I need to reboot and send you a part of those log?
[14:33] <Sbioko> I have dual-boot Win-Ubuntu
[14:33] <Sbioko> now I'm on Win
[14:33] <penguin42> Sbioko: If you can get recovery to work that would be good
[14:33] <gnomefreak> either that or install pastebinit and post it that way. i dont recall if it works in recovery
[14:33] <penguin42> Sbioko: Is this fresh install or an upgrade?
[14:34] <Sbioko> upgrade
[14:34] <Sbioko> from 10.04
[14:34] <penguin42> ok
[15:28] <DanaG> say, the manpages for mount don't say anything about btrfs/
[15:28] <DanaG> So, is it expected for errors=remount-ro to fail (make it not mount)?
[15:29] <DanaG> It seems to not be a valid mount option.
[15:29] <DanaG> And what about noatime / relatime?
[15:58] <DanaG> ext2fs_open: Unknown code ext2 19
[15:58] <DanaG> unable to open the Ext2fs
[16:14] <DanaG> Though, I do have backups for exactly that reason: in case things break.
[16:19] <DanaG> "failed to zero device end -5"
[16:22] <sinurge> today when i booted inot my system xorg.conf was not ther in X11 folder. how could that occur/
[16:26] <ZykoticK9> sinurge, it's not there by default.  Had you created one?
[16:29] <sinurge> no i did not i had problems with nvidia
[16:29] <sinurge> so i removed the nividia drivers
[16:29] <sinurge> defaulted to nouveau but today when i boot up ..the nouveau driver isnt working and display is all screwed up
[16:31] <ZykoticK9> sinurge, FYI i was able to get nvidia-current working again in Maverick two days ago, by installing nvidia-current (256 version) and adding the ignoreABI to xorg see bug 616023 for details
[16:35] <sinurge> ZykoticK9, thanks, will check up the same again. but now that i removed all of them i cannot see any in hardware drivers
[16:35] <IdleOne> sound icon displays as muted but sound is working properly
[16:35] <DanaG> You need modaliases to let Jockey see the things.
[16:35] <ZykoticK9> sinurge, sorry - i'm not sure about that one...
[16:36] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, not experiencing that issue here?
[16:36] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, doh - sorry i'm on my Lucid install :(
[16:40] <sinurge> DanaG, guess that was for me...got that and installing the again
[16:40] <sinurge> ZykoticK9, did u add ignoreABI again?
[16:41] <ZykoticK9> sinurge, i didn't have it before i added it?
[16:41] <DanaG> er, note to self: start putting names on messages.
[16:43] <DanaG> Great, now I'm getting "unknown size descriptor t"
[16:43] <sinurge> hmm laright lets see ....hope it works now
[16:50] <DanaG> say, where can I go for btrfs help?
[16:58] <sinurge> how to know what driver is being used
[16:58] <Pici> sinurge: your xorg logs
[18:35] <gnomefreak> well at least next nvidia upload most issues should be fixed :)
[18:43] <IdleOne> gnomefreak: you promise
[18:43] <IdleOne> ?
[18:43] <kblin> hi folks
[18:44] <IdleOne> heya kblin
[18:44] <kblin> if I bump into a broken dependency (-dev package not matching the library package), which package do I file the bug against?
[18:46] <IdleOne> hmm, I would file against the package that is calling for the missing/broken depends
[18:46] <IdleOne> but that is me, maybe ask in #ubuntu-bugs
[18:55] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: from what one of the bug reports said
[18:55] <IdleOne> So I won't need to start in text mode and then startx anymore?
[18:55] <gnomefreak> i hope not
[18:55] <IdleOne> because it is a little annoying
[18:55] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: see bug 616023
[18:59] <IdleOne> hmm well that was 8 days ago
[18:59] <IdleOne> will see what happens I guess
[18:59] <gnomefreak> im sure it will be a few days -> a week at least
[19:00]  * gnomefreak done filing pidgin bugs for today
[19:00] <gnomefreak> be back smoke
[19:25] <ishan> My maverick got hanged and i force shutdown. But after restarting it shows crosses on screen and when i try to log in shows two process running.
[19:25] <ishan> i am using virtual box
[19:28] <ishan> Please suggest some method to correct it
[19:28] <penguin42> what do you mean 'shows crosses' ?
[19:28] <gnomefreak> looks like font is trying to load but gets generic display
[19:29]  * gnomefreak guessing
[19:29] <gnomefreak> i think i saw it the other day here but it went away when i left it long enough
[19:30] <MarkusT> Does anyone besides me have problems with the mouse middle click in Maverick? I just can't open and close tabs with the mouse any longer, neither in Fx, nor in Chromium. Any ideas? (works with Lucid on the same machine)
[19:30] <gnomefreak> i had a total of maybe 7 from one side of screen to other but only on that one line
[19:30] <ishan> gnomefreak, may be you are correct as it displays waiting for processes to respond
[19:31] <gnomefreak> ishan: it only happened once for me and im on Lucid the past few days
[19:31]  * gnomefreak trying to find cheap mem for my maverick box
[19:31] <gnomefreak> and they just dont make it
[19:32]  * gnomefreak smoke i think
[19:36] <penguin42> what's so odd about the box?
[19:39] <gnomefreak> penguin42: its got some damn memory i have to replace 2 at a time
[19:39] <gnomefreak> 256 well over $100 but i have to find some before i can price it. rather not get it online but looks like i have to
[19:40] <gnomefreak> maybe ill upgrade this box when nvidia upload
[19:40] <penguin42> tried crucial.com?
[19:40] <gnomefreak> both boxes have same nvidia card in them
[19:40] <gnomefreak> no i have not. let me look
[19:45]  * ishan is still waiting for the application to end
[19:45] <penguin42> ishan: Which application?
[19:45] <ishan> penguin42, the one which is not responding
[19:45] <penguin42> which one is that?
[19:46] <gnomefreak> maybe i was doubling price when i shouldnt have?
[19:46] <ishan> penguin42, unknown is what it displays
[19:46] <gnomefreak> 1 gig $170.
[19:46] <penguin42> gnomefreak: Is it an old machine?
[19:46] <gnomefreak> yep its a dell optiplex gx400
[19:46] <penguin42> ishan: Displays using what?
[19:47] <penguin42> gnomefreak: ddr1 or something?
[19:47] <gnomefreak> http://www.memorystock.com/memory/DellOptiPlexGX400.html
[19:47] <gnomefreak> rdram
[19:47] <penguin42> youch, RIMMs
[19:47] <gnomefreak> yep
[19:47] <penguin42> now that's obscure
[19:48] <ishan> penguin42, it displays a error box displaying unknown application not responding at the time of logging
[19:48] <gnomefreak> an expensive. i was thinking since i can get a dell for ~$400 its cheaper to go that way
[19:48] <penguin42> gnomefreak: Yeh, I mean I think I've only ever seen 2 machines that used RDIMMs
[19:48] <gnomefreak> ishan: reboot. if it has been like that for more than 3 minutes reboot
[19:48] <ishan> penguin42, okay let me try
[19:49] <penguin42> gnomefreak: But RAM for older machines is more expensive; in general it just doesn't get cheaper
[19:49] <gnomefreak> pc133 is fairly cheap and that is real old
[19:49] <gnomefreak> pc100/133
[19:50] <ishan> penguin42, still same problem
[19:50] <penguin42> ishan: Hold the power button down, after abotu 10seconds it'll switch itself off
[19:51] <gnomefreak> i am going to check with one the guys that rebuilds pcs to see what he has
[19:51] <gnomefreak> friend so i should get it at minamal to free
[19:51] <ishan> penguin42, it sometimes does not displays the power button as well
[19:52] <gnomefreak> ishan: does it ever load?
[19:52] <ishan> penguin42, i was some how able to log in but only the background is diplayed
[19:52] <gnomefreak> even if you have an intel or ati im still going to blame nvidia :)
[19:53] <ishan> penguin42, all the menus on the screen are missing
[19:53] <penguin42> ishan: What graphics card?
[19:53] <gnomefreak> no nvidia bugs that i am aware of have that symptom
[19:54] <MarkusT> Does anyone besides me have problems with the mouse middle click in Maverick? I just can't open and close tabs with the mouse any longer, neither in Fx, nor in Chromium. Any ideas? (works with Lucid on the same machine)
[19:54] <gnomefreak> MarkusT: not i
[19:54] <penguin42> MarkusT: Yeh
[19:54] <ishan> penguin42, mine is 1Gb ATI radeon
[19:54] <gnomefreak> and im using all kinds of browsers
[19:54] <penguin42> MarkusT: I was thinking it was my mouse going faulty; if I click it enough it does do it eventually
[19:54] <gnomefreak> ati == nvidia's fault :)
[19:55] <gnomefreak> there are only a few ati bugs but i dont remember them
[19:55] <penguin42> ishan: OK, when you boot, stop it in Grub and edit out the line that says set gfxmode=keep and see if that helps
[19:55] <ishan> penguin42, i am using a virtualbox
[19:56] <penguin42> ishan: OH, so it's an emulated graphics card
[19:56] <penguin42> ishan: Still, it's worth a try
[19:56] <ishan> penguin42, i dont think there is a problem with graphics
[19:56] <penguin42> hmm the RAM prices for my Dual Athlon have come down to something sensible; it might be worth getting it a Gig
[19:57] <gnomefreak> oh crap, i made a boo boo
[19:57] <ishan> penguin42, the problem is due to the forced shutdown which i did
[19:58] <gnomefreak> ishan: do a full shut down walk away for 20 minutes and start it up again
[19:58] <penguin42> ishan: OK, when you select the username as you are about to login can you select a failsafe session using the menu at the bottom?
[19:58] <gnomefreak> i didnt think it would help but it does
[19:59] <gnomefreak> ill be back i need food
[20:00] <ishan> penguin42, still the same error box being displayed for the safe mode as well
[20:01] <penguin42> ishan: Remeind me, what EXACTLY does the erro box say?
[20:03] <ishan> penguin42, it displays   waiting for the program to finish. Interrupting program may cause you to loose some work
[20:03] <penguin42> and this happens during boot?
[20:04] <penguin42> sorry, just after logon ?
[20:04] <ishan> penguin42, yes
[20:04] <penguin42> hmm odd
[20:04] <penguin42> ishan: OK, well probably the easiest thing would be to move all your dot files out of the way and see if that helps; are using Gnome or KDE?
[20:04] <ishan> penguin42, gnome
[20:05] <penguin42> ok, so can you get to a terminal (send it a ctrl-alt-f1)
[20:05] <ishan> penguin42, at the log on screen
[20:05] <penguin42> yeh
[20:06] <ishan> penguin42, no
[20:06] <penguin42> ishan: try ctrl-alt-f2 - note you'll have to figure out how to send ctrl-alt-f1 using virutalbox - I can't remember the magic
[20:12] <ishan> penguin42, check http://imagebin.org/110560
[20:12] <penguin42> oh, on the login screen - that's odd
[20:12] <penguin42> so what happens if you press logout anyway?
[20:16] <ishan> penguin42, http://imagebin.org/110561
[20:16] <penguin42> ok, so, can you get a text console?
[20:17] <ishan> penguin42, do you mean terminal
[20:17] <penguin42> yes
[20:18] <penguin42> well, I mean outside of X - like if you hit ctrl-alt-f1
[20:18] <ishan> penguin42, no
[20:19] <ishan> a blank screen comes up
[20:19] <penguin42> completely black?
[20:19] <ishan> i am able to open my home folder if that could help
[20:19] <ishan> yes
[20:19] <ishan> on pressing ctrl+alt+F7 the screen reappears
[20:20] <penguin42> try ctrl+alt+f2
[20:20] <penguin42> and hit return - it should give you a login prompt
[20:21] <ishan> penguin42, no results
[20:21] <penguin42> you're going to need to boot off a CD image and fix up the filesystem
[20:21] <ishan> okay
[20:22] <gnomefreak> not as fun as it sounds
[20:23] <penguin42> not being able to get to the ctrl-alt-whatever consoles is odd
[20:23] <gnomefreak> kernel problem normally
[20:24] <penguin42> gnomefreak: Although that's odd for that to happen while still being able to get that type of GUI stuff
[20:25] <yofel> penguin42: actually I had that too a few days ago, X worked fine with nvidia, but ttys were blank
[20:26] <penguin42> yofel: Hmm then that's definitely a bug that needs seeing to!
[20:26] <yofel> well, It's working fine currently so I can't debug it, not sure how that happened
[20:28] <feydr> shutdown/reboot doesn't poweroff my laptop under maverick; what log file should I be looking at to see what the prob is?
[20:29] <penguin42> feydr: I'd look if there is anything in /var/log/meesages, dmesg or /var/log/kern.log
[20:29] <penguin42> feydr: After you've done the shutdown command - is it actually shutting everything down and just not powering off?
[20:30] <penguin42> interesting, I just tried ctrl-alt-f1 and back, and it worked but did trigger an oops
[20:30] <feydr> penguin42: yeh... I def. don't have access to any terms at that point and it looks like it gets to runlevel (whatever)
[20:30] <penguin42> what's the last thing on the display or is it black?
[20:30] <feydr> yeh.. ctrl-alt-f1 will display a login but I can't type or anything
[20:30] <feydr> it stops responding during the shutdown splash stuff...
[20:31] <penguin42> hmm but ctrl-alt-f1 still works?
[20:31] <penguin42> so that means it's not just the actual power off that's failing
[20:32] <feydr> penguin42: yeh... actually now that you bring that up ... I can switch to those I just can't login
[20:32] <gnomefreak> can log in?
[20:32] <gnomefreak> ^^^ is odd
[20:34] <ishan> penguin42, i am able to open terminal
[20:34] <ishan> can you tell me what to do next
[20:34] <penguin42> feydr: You could try alt-sysrq-t when at the text console, it should list all remaining running tasks
[20:35] <penguin42> ishan: Make a directory - lets say broken-dotfiles and then  mv .gnome* broken-dotfiles and do it for .gnome* .gconf* and .config*   then restart and see if it works
[20:35] <feydr> penguin42: I'll do that and report back in...
[20:35] <gnomefreak> penguin42: what key is sysrq-t?
[20:36] <penguin42> gnomefreak: alt + sysrq key (that's printscreen/sysrq) and t - all at the same time
[20:36] <gnomefreak> ah i do have it :) thanks
[20:39] <ishan> penguin42, still same result at log in screen
[20:39]  * penguin42 is out of suggestions
[20:41]  * ishan guess re installation is the only option left
[20:41] <gnomefreak> i have one more suggestion
[20:42] <gnomefreak> re-install :)
[20:42] <gnomefreak> ishan: i dont see it being any different at this time
[20:43] <gnomefreak> likely to have same issue, unless it was something you did but even than you/we dont know what that was so you may do it again
[20:43] <gnomefreak> this is why its normally better to wait until after beta release
[20:44]  * penguin42 is afk for a while
[20:44] <ishan> gnomefreak, penguin42: thanks
[20:44] <gnomefreak> np
[20:45]  * gnomefreak may go lay down before i cook
[20:45] <feydr> penguin42: http://tweetphoto.com/40251447 bunch of stuff scrolled like mad and then I got this -- is it stored in a log somewhere?
[20:45] <ishan> gnomefreak, is there anyway through which i can close the application which is not responding
[20:45] <ishan> i can access the terminal
[20:45] <gnomefreak> ishan: what app is it?
[20:46] <ishan> it shows unknown application
[20:46] <gnomefreak> ishan: does it give you a process #
[20:46] <ishan> gnomefreak, not sure
[20:46] <gnomefreak> ishan: if you knew what to look for ps aux would have given a process # than you can kill it
[20:47] <ishan> gnomefreak,  before shutdown i had firefox,updatemanger and a folder opened
[20:47] <gnomefreak> is they were open when you shut down or did you close them first?
[20:48] <ishan> gnomefreak, i tried closing but it got hang and so i forced shutdown
[20:48] <ishan> i was able to close one -two of them maybe
[20:48] <gnomefreak> ishan: if you type in terminal ps aux |grep firefox   what does it show
[20:49]  * gnomefreak wonders if you can stop and start gdm if that would work
[20:50] <ishan> gnomefreak, it displays a line
[20:51] <gnomefreak> what does it say on this line
[20:51] <gnomefreak> the grep command will be listed as a grep process so nomrally more than 1 will indicate of it is running
[20:52] <gnomefreak> ishan: in a terminal type the following without the "   "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"    and yes i know that is the old way, i cant recall the service command
[20:53] <ishan> ishan  1401 0.0 0.1   4008  768 pts/0 S+   01:20  0:00  grep  --colour=au to firefox
[20:53] <gnomefreak> tha tis the grep process
[20:53] <gnomefreak> once you run that command let me know what it says if anything
[20:54] <ishan> gnomefreak, didnt got your point
[20:54] <gnomefreak> ishan: in the terminal type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" without the "
[20:54] <gnomefreak> you are using gnome not kde right?
[20:55] <ishan> gnomefreak, gnome
[20:55] <ishan> screen just went black
[20:55] <gnomefreak> ishan: ok let me know after you run that command
[20:55] <gnomefreak> ishan: blank or black?
[20:56] <ishan> black
[20:56] <gnomefreak> blank will have a slight lighter color than black
[20:56] <ishan> gnomefreak, confused
[20:56] <gnomefreak> ok do you have a prompt or not?
[20:56] <ishan> no
[20:56] <gnomefreak> good. restart
[20:57] <gnomefreak> i had this bug using nvidia drivers i removed xorg.conf it fixed it but you are not using nvidia
[20:57] <ishan> still the same result
[20:58] <gnomefreak> ishan: what same result?
[20:58] <ishan> still displays the error box after log in
[20:58] <gnomefreak> what does the box say
[20:59] <ishan> waiting for the program to finish
[20:59] <gnomefreak> well crap
[20:59] <ishan> interupting may cause to loose work
[21:00] <gnomefreak> have you tried shutting it off for >20 minutes than starting it up. on a full shutdown it may takes somer time but it  should kill all process including kernel indexing
[21:00] <ishan> gnomefreak, not yet
[21:00] <ishan> what you mean is to shutdown machine for more that 20 mins and then restart
[21:01] <gnomefreak> ishan: try it. i normally let mine sit for 30 minutes or longer but 20 should be ok
[21:01] <ishan> okay
[21:01] <gnomefreak> ishan: i mean shut the power off and just start it as nomral 20-30 minutes later
[21:01] <ishan> gnomefreak, okay
[21:02] <gnomefreak> may have to hold power button in for a few seconds before it shuts down
[21:02] <gnomefreak> ill be in and out for the next hour or so
[21:02] <ishan> gnomefreak, sure
[21:02] <gnomefreak> like out for a few now
[21:17] <gnomefreak> song on a cd are not .wmp right?
[21:18] <Andre_Gondim> I opened the oo writer and looks like with Qt, is it correct?
[21:18] <gnomefreak> it has a qt package IIRC
[21:19] <gnomefreak> or at least a kde one
[21:22] <gnomefreak> sorry that is .wma
[21:24] <DanaG> Base class package "Debconf::DbDriver::Cache" is empty.
[21:24] <DanaG> what?
[21:28] <DanaG> oops, looks like my backups excluded "*Cache*" too aggressively.
[22:41] <lamalex> Hey people, I'm having a problem getting maverick. When i boot my live usb key i get an error about an unknown configuration value and a prompt that just says boot:
[22:41] <lamalex> if I hit enter it hangs indefinitely
[22:42] <BUGabundo> anyone knows tha bug for the power button to shutdown instead of asking what I want to do?
[22:45] <lamalex> sha256sum checks out- is this possibly a bug in the ubuntu startup disk creator?
[22:45] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: you here? I've assumed you were dead ;)
[22:46] <BUGabundo> I'm here daily dude
[22:46] <BUGabundo> just not on work hours
[22:46] <kklimonda> well, I don't see you talking anymore :)
[22:46] <BUGabundo> at least a good evening I say everyday
[22:49] <yofel> lamalex: that sounds familiar, give me a sec
[22:50] <yofel> lamalex: bug 608382?
[22:56] <lamalex> yofel: thanks! im gonna reboot and see if this works now
[23:19] <redDEADresolve> anyone know if you can get a vanilla gnome in the new ubuntu 10.10 I really like my notification area
[23:26] <penguin42> redDEADresolve: I'm not aware of one
[23:26] <penguin42> redDEADresolve: I think you can run the standard gnome-volume-control for example
[23:27] <redDEADresolve> penguin42, thanks. I didnt want to leave ubuntu but i dont like indicator applets
[23:27] <penguin42> redDEADresolve: I have the same problem
[23:34] <redDEADresolve> penguin42, sucks to be old and set in yoru ways lol
[23:35] <penguin42> redDEADresolve: Hell yeh
[23:35]  * yofel isn't that old but doesn't the new ubuntu way either
[23:36] <yofel> then again, I like KDE, some people seem to find that odd
[23:37] <redDEADresolve> penguin42, you know it has to be in their somewhere. Xubuntu still uses the notification system in Alpha 3
[23:37] <yofel> the old notification system should be libnotify
[23:37] <penguin42> redDEADresolve: Yeh I think most stuff is in there one way or another - not sure everything is
[23:38] <redDEADresolve> penguin42, only one way to find out right? gonna hve to download an iso
[23:38] <penguin42> redDEADresolve: I did try xfce for a few days but found some things it didn't have that also annoyed me (I've got a patch to add the alt-space menu accelerators that Metacity uses to xfwm4)
[23:40] <yofel> what does alt+space do there?
[23:40]  * penguin42 isn't quite sure how to push the xfmw4 guys to take it - I've let it stew in their patch system
[23:40] <penguin42> yofel: alt+space brings up the window menu
[23:40] <redDEADresolve> penguin42, i love xfce on my netbook. and i just learned something new with the alt-space
[23:40] <penguin42> yofel: And then there are bunches of accelerators on that menu that are quite cute - e.g. t to keep stuck at the top
[23:41] <penguin42> yofel: So on gnome you can do   alt-space t  and the window wil stay at the top or   alt-space w2 would send the window to the second workspace
[23:41] <yofel> penguin42: the menu that you get when you klick on the window icon?
[23:41] <penguin42> yeh
[23:42] <yofel> opening the menu is alt+f3 in KDE, there isn't a shortcut for keep on top, but you can define one
[23:43] <penguin42> so does wireshark work for no one on m? i.e. does everyone else see bug 606063 that me and one other guy have seen?
[23:44] <Daekdroom> Btw, I loved the new indicators :3
[23:56] <yofel> we got thunderbird 3.1 o.O
[23:56] <yofel> and enigmail doesn't support it, great -.-