/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/08/20/#ubuntu-beginners.txt

aveilleuxharridon_: No00:00
aveilleuxharrison_*00:00
harrison_what is up with #ubuntu?00:01
smeag0lyes just maniged to get a system malfunction device shutdown in 10 secs on my nokia n900 :-(00:01
harrison_did you do that or did it do it itself?00:01
smeag0li did it00:02
harrison_did you want that to happen?00:03
smeag0lno an error ocured i reset to system default rebooted fine and wan't recover my safety backup00:05
smeag0lso now i'm googleing like a mad man00:06
smeag0l*wanted to restore my backup00:07
Cl1FFI am currently running Ubuntu Lucid 64bit, can I install ArchLinux desktop environment and choose between them at startup without damaging my Ubuntu? If yes, How?01:21
zkriesseYou should be able to do a dual boot with arch and Ubuntu01:21
seidosyeah, and I've never done it, so I couldn't say.  You could try searching the web to see if anyone out there has done it successfully, Cl1FF01:22
seidosCl1FF, would running archlinux in a virtual desktop work for you?01:22
Cl1FFzkriesse, not installing it in separate partition, im talkin about having them both in the same partition and choosing them at the login screen01:23
Cl1FFseidos, does virtual desktop work well? How is it?01:24
seidosCl1FF, I liked it when I used to be able to use it, heh.  But when it was working on my system, I thought it was awesome.01:24
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dan9818I bought a western digital hard drive, 1 TB, and there is some nonsense WD Smartware software on it as a CD some how, and i just want to erase the drive entirely, including the "CD" (i think it is a virtual cd?) and format it as one big partition to FAT32, i tried using disk utility, but it said the virtual CD was "read-only" and i was wondering if there was any software i could download, or anything i could do to just over-ride02:31
harrisonCan you use gparted02:34
aveilleuxdan9818: Judging that you used "Disk Utility" I assume you're on a Mac..?02:34
dan9818um, I have Ubuntu on an IBM02:36
dan9818but I do own Macs02:36
harrisoncool02:36
aveilleuxdan9818: Ubuntu comes with a Disk Utility? I've never seen it02:36
harrisondan9818 have you ever used gparted?02:37
dan9818no02:37
dan9818but I can if you need me to02:37
dan9818but yes, mine does have disk utility02:37
harrisonOpen a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install gparted"02:37
aveilleuxdan9818: The easiest way to edit partition information would be GParted02:37
dan9818ok02:37
phillw!gparted02:38
ubot2gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php02:38
aveilleuxOut of curiosity, what program does Ubuntu use and call "Disk Utility"?02:38
phillwaveilleux: it is psypalmset from memory, let me go look it up02:39
phillwaveilleux: palimpsest02:40
aveilleuxInteresting. I've never seen it before.02:41
harrisondan9818: do you have it installed?02:41
phillwI've used that to 'nuke' a hard drive :p02:41
harrisonphillw: ever heard of DBAN?02:41
dan9818yes, it just finished02:42
harrisondan9818: good02:42
harrisonFrom the terminal type sudo gparted02:42
aveilleuxharrison, dan9818: No, use gksudo gparted02:43
phillwharrison I try to stick with what we have, life is hard enough for my brain cells. I have a gparted CD, but a standard ubuntu LiveCD has always worked for me, I only use the disk utilities for usb mounted hard drives.02:43
aveilleuxharrison, dan9818: gksudo is a different version of sudo that's designed for graphical applications02:43
harrisonphillw please repeat please.02:44
harrisondan9818: is gparted open?02:46
dan9818how do i use gksudo gparted?02:46
harrisontype it in the terminal02:46
phillwharrison disk utilities will format / partition a drive that is not in use. If you wish to make alterations to your 'live running' Hard Dive, you need to use gparted from either a ubuntu CD or the gparted one.02:46
harrisonpillw: I think dan9818 has an external hard drive not an internal one.02:47
phillwharrison for the difference between sudo and gksudo, please have a quick read of http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo getting it wrong "can" mess things up.02:47
harrisonoh, I didn't know that I always thought they were the same.02:48
dan9818gparted is open02:48
JoeMaverickSettwhy does one 'nuke' a hard drive?how?02:49
phillwthe disk utilities under administration menu, will be able to take of an external hard drive. although if you are at all unsure, I'd really suggest reading up on it. formatted hard drives are nearly impossible to recover.02:49
harrisonin the uper right corner there is a dropdown list, click it and select your hard drive02:49
harrisonphillw I now understand Thanks02:52
phillwJoeMaverickSett: it resets the disk, similar to "fresh out of the factory"; there are varying degrees to do that depending if you wish all data to removed and scambled, or just wish to start from scratch.02:52
harrisondan9818 did you get it?02:52
JoeMaverickSettphillw: if i wanted my disk to be "fresh out of the factory" or start from scratch, how do i do that? any wiki/guides would you recommend me to read?02:55
harrisonJoeMaverickSett: sorry if you asked phillw and got me but try DBAN (I will find the link in a moment)02:57
harrisonJoeMaverickSett: here it is http://www.dban.org/02:57
harrisonIt wippes the hard drive with the DoD algorithyms.02:58
Mohan_chmlJoeMaverickSett, what I can say is, Work on it, Learn the basics and when you have doubt, ping us and when you are ready to blow, start with bash scripts if you are interested in working out with kernels. If you wanna have knowledge practically, remain here and try helping people at your best. You will get a great exposure :)02:59
JoeMaverickSettMohan_chml: alrighty, dude. i'll surely do that. :)02:59
JoeMaverickSettharrison: thanks for the help. appreciate it. :D03:00
Mohan_chmlwb paultag03:00
paultagty, second03:02
harrisondan9818 still there?03:02
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dan2038hey, this is the person who was previously dan9818, sorry, my computer froze03:02
Mohan_chmlharrison, I thin you got the answer :)03:02
harrisonunderstandable03:02
Mohan_chmlthink*03:02
Mohan_chmlhey dan203803:03
harrisondan2038 is gparted going?03:03
dan2038it is03:03
harrisonin the uper right corner there is a dropdown list, click it and select your hard drive03:03
Mohan_chmlharrison, are you working in GNOME environment?03:03
harrisonyes03:04
Mohan_chmlcool03:04
harrisonI am actualy doing this on memory03:04
dan2038it is searching /dev/sdb partitions03:04
harrisondid you say it was 2 TB?03:04
dan20381TB03:05
* Mohan_chml scrolls up to see the issue type03:05
harrisonif it is it will be a while03:05
harrisoneven 1 TB drives03:05
dan2038ok, and I have a fairly slow computer, or the one I have on Ubuntu is03:05
dan2038ok03:06
dan2038its is done searching03:06
harrisonMohan_chml how do you make those comments?03:06
Mohan_chmlharrison, /me scrolls up to see the issue type03:06
Mohan_chmlthats it :)03:06
harrisonDan2038: look in the top right corner03:06
harrisonThanks03:06
dan2038ok03:07
harrisonthere should be a dropdown menu03:07
dan2038yes03:07
harrisonselect your 1 TB drive03:07
dan2038ok03:07
harrisonMost likely /dev/sdb03:07
dan2038it is, and it only shows one partition03:07
harrisonwhat does the bar in the top look like?03:08
harrisonSorry didn't look up03:08
Mohan_chmlharrison, gimme a sec03:08
harrisonyou doing this as well?03:08
Mohan_chmldan2038, open up terminal, type sudo fdis -l and copy paste the response to paste.ubuntu.com03:09
Mohan_chmlharrison, LOL no :P03:09
Mohan_chmlerr sudo fdisk -l03:09
Mohan_chmlhey dan2038 ^03:09
Mohan_chmlI made a typo03:09
dan2038ok03:09
dan2038is that a - and the letter I?03:10
Mohan_chmlharrison, that makes work simple :D03:10
Mohan_chmlL03:10
Mohan_chmldan2038, "L"03:10
harrisonwhat work?03:10
harrisonthis is fun not work03:10
harrisonmost of the time03:10
Mohan_chmlharrison, :o but for him its not fun :P03:10
harrisonI see now03:11
dan2038ok, just a second03:12
JoeMaverickSetti got i/o errors when i installed Ubuntu on my laptop, and one guy suggested that i might try 'nuking' my disk, should i do that or not? photo is here: http://twitpic.com/2c2rba03:12
Mohan_chmldan2038, save it in paste.ubuntu.com and give us the link here. You cant copy by pressing ctrl+c, use your mouse to select and right click03:12
Mohan_chmlJoeMaverickSett, It is not booting up even you restart?03:13
dan2038Disk /dev/sda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylindersUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytesSector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytesDisk identifier: 0x2990bc4403:14
dan2038   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System/dev/sda1   *           1        7109    57103011   83  Linux /dev/sda2            7110        7296     1502077+   5  Extended/dev/sda5            7110        7296     1502046   82  Linux swap / Solaris03:14
dan2038Disk /dev/sdb: 999.5 GB, 999501594624 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121515 cylindersUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytesSector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytesI/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0001c8b003:14
dan2038   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System/dev/sdb1   *           1      121515   976069206    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)03:14
pedro3005!paste | dan203803:14
ubot2dan2038: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:14
Mohan_chmlty pedro3005 :)03:14
Mohan_chmldan2038, don't use the channel to paste. Use paste.ubuntu.com03:14
JoeMaverickSettafter it shows the I/O erros and reboots, nothing seems to be wrong. the whole OS works....03:15
dan2038what do i put where it says poster?03:15
dan2038nevermind03:15
Mohan_chmlyou have to copy paste there and click save03:16
Mohan_chmldan2038, well you set it to lba??03:16
Mohan_chmlFAT32 (LBA)03:16
dan2038where is save?  download as text?03:16
Mohan_chmlsorry you pasted it03:17
dan2038ok03:17
Mohan_chmlnow copy the url and paste it here03:17
Mohan_chmlthats the procedure to show to people03:17
dan2038http://paste.ubuntu.com/480729/03:17
Mohan_chmldan2038, good03:17
dan2038ok, i got it03:17
Mohan_chmland you set it as lba???03:17
Jabadehutgotta love pastebin03:18
dan2038um, not intentionally, i don't know what that means03:18
Mohan_chmlharrison, you still there?03:18
Mohan_chmldan2038, just goto gparted and look at the last tab, right click on lba and deselect it03:19
JoeMaverickSettMohan_chml: after it shows the I/O erros and reboots, nothing seems to be wrong. the whole OS works....it's weird though.03:19
Mohan_chmlJoeMaverickSett, it may be soem particular process that died03:20
Mohan_chmlI fourgot the command of process status03:20
dan2038ok03:20
Mohan_chmllemme look I think its "ps"03:20
Mohan_chmlpedro3005, any idea of making the boot logs displayed??03:21
* Mohan_chml is tired of googling03:21
JoeMaverickSettMohan_chml: eh, nvm. that laptop is the one i'm using now! =D just wanted to know.03:22
Mohan_chmlJoeMaverickSett, but its good to know why :)03:23
harrisonMohan_chml yes I am back03:23
Mohan_chmlharrison, (:03:24
harrisonyes.03:24
Mohan_chmlJoeMaverickSett, your nick is BIG 0_003:24
Mohan_chmldan2038, you did that?03:24
JoeMaverickSettMohan_chml: hehe! yeah! :D03:24
dan2038i did03:24
tempossMohan_chml: you need an app that will google for you03:25
temposs:-)03:25
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Mohan_chmltemposs, my bot has that. But I need pedro3005 here :D03:25
pedro3005what?03:25
Mohan_chmldan2038, now you want to format it to FAT32 right!!!03:25
dan2038yes03:26
dan2038did we take away that virtual CD thing that was on there?03:26
Mohan_chmldan2038, now, right click on /dev/sdb1 and i think there will be an option called "format to" i think03:26
dan2038ok03:27
Mohan_chmlargh! virtual CD.!03:27
Mohan_chmldan2038, In that you can see FAT33 and all other formats. You can use any. Even NTFS03:27
Mohan_chmlpedro3005, I told you to find a way to save and display the logs of boot process03:28
dan2038alright03:28
Mohan_chmlpedro3005, JoeMaverickSett is having an Issue. Please do that =]03:28
Mohan_chmltemposs, Your name is andrew!!!03:29
tempossMohan_chml: that's true!03:29
* Mohan_chml thinks about our old friend andrew46 :'( We really miss him :'(03:30
temposs:o03:30
pedro3005Mohan_chml, /var/logs ?03:30
harrisonMohan_chml DO you need my help?03:30
harrison*do03:30
tempossMohan_chml: did he just stop coming?03:30
Mohan_chmlharrison, if you can, I ll be happy. Coz you are following him from the head to tail :)03:31
Mohan_chmltemposs, he got some personal issues and he left the team :(03:31
harrisondan2038 were are you?03:31
dan2038it is formatting the drive03:31
harrisonwhat do you need help with?03:32
dan2038i don't think i need help with anything any more, i think this should work03:33
dan2038thank you guys03:33
harrisonyour welcome03:34
harrisonNext03:34
Mohan_chmlrest03:34
Mohan_chml:D03:34
tempossMohan_chml: herbal tea helps03:34
Mohan_chmltemposs, that will :)03:35
harrisonyea I guess I should its 10:34 in eastren Canada, I like orange peco better.03:35
Mohan_chmlits 8 AM here (:03:35
harrisonWhere is here?03:35
Mohan_chmlharrison, India03:35
harrisonI was talking to a guy from sudi arabia yesterday.03:36
tempossMohan_chml: which province?03:36
harrisonQuebec03:36
temposs>_>03:36
harrisonRight on the border with the US03:36
Mohan_chmltemposs, Tamil Nadu. You can see https://launchpad.net/~mohanchml03:37
Mohan_chmltemposs, it has the map :)03:37
Mohan_chmlharrison, nice03:37
Mohan_chmlpedro3005, I need a terminal code to display the boot logs03:37
harrisonMohan_chml have you ever setup a server?03:38
pedro3005Mohan_chml, cat /var/log/boot ?03:38
Mohan_chmlNo. I am going to do it in about a week03:38
tempossMohan_chml: doesn't have map :-(03:38
tempossMohan_chml: but it's in the east, right?03:39
Mohan_chmlpedro3005, we have to enable logging first. So explain me from the scratch03:39
Mohan_chmlsouth tip03:39
Mohan_chmltemposs, ^03:39
pedro3005Mohan_chml, I don't know :x03:39
Mohan_chmlpedro3005, thats why I said GOOGLE03:39
seidosyou don't have to enable logging03:39
seidoslogging is just enabled03:39
seidoswell, what kind of logging are you talking about?03:40
Mohan_chmlseidos, no its not displaying for me03:40
Mohan_chmlseidos, good question03:40
seidosMohan_chml, well, I have no idea what logs you are trying to look at03:40
Mohan_chmldevil@devil-laptop:~$ cat /var/log/boot03:40
Mohan_chml(Nothing has been logged yet.)03:40
JoeMaverickSettsame here.03:40
Mohan_chmlseidos, boot logging up all the process03:40
seidosMohan_chml, I see your problem.  You don't need technical advice...you need an exorcism on your computer03:40
seidoshar har03:40
pedro3005Mohan_chml, http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8525746&postcount=903:41
Mohan_chmllol03:41
seidosMohan_chml, syslog?03:41
JoeMaverickSettguess i need exorcism also. =P03:41
seidosI *think* boot events are recorded in syslog03:41
Mohan_chmlseidos, :o03:41
seidosmy brain and heart need an exorcism.  I'm possessed!  \o/.  I mean O_o03:41
Mohan_chmlpedro3005, I know all the stuff that we have to enable and have to look. But idk where to enable and I AM TIRED OF GOOGLING:d03:42
pedro3005Mohan_chml, it's explained in there03:42
* Mohan_chml smacks seidos 03:42
Mohan_chmlpedro3005, I saw that and thank you (:03:42
Mohan_chmlJoeMaverickSett, you saw that?03:43
Mohan_chmlJonathanD, hello03:43
seidosman, I'm tired of googling too.  someone google for me03:43
JoeMaverickSettMohan_chml: yup. thanks.03:43
* Mohan_chml giggles at seidos 03:43
seidosboot logging isn't enabled...hmmm.  so what the heck is in syslog?03:43
tempossI think there could be some good money in auto-googling03:44
Mohan_chmlseidos, its syslog03:44
seidosMohan_chml, tautology?03:44
Mohan_chmlseidos, may be 0_o03:44
seidostemposs, yeah, didn't some companies try that?03:44
JoeMaverickSettso will that show why i got I/O errors, the first time i install Ubuntu?03:44
tempossseldos, need some neural interface, though03:44
seidosMohan_chml, semantic tautology is like when you say the same thing more than once.03:45
seidos!tab | temposs03:45
ubot2temposs: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.03:45
Mohan_chmlseidos, x_003:45
seidos\o/ for the bot03:45
seidosMohan_chml, me someday -> x_x03:46
Mohan_chmllol seidos03:46
* Mohan_chml stares at seidos 03:46
tempossseidos, thx03:46
seidostemposs, don't thank me, thank the person who programmed ubot203:47
Mohan_chmlJoeMaverickSett, is that at the first time you logged in??03:47
seidostemposs, actually, just thank me, I have no idea who programmed ubot203:47
Mohan_chmlPabloRubianes_, you are multiplying??03:48
JoeMaverickSettMohan_chml: nope. that happened when i install Ubuntu. but the OS came back ok after the reboot.03:48
tempossseidos, semantic tautology is when you say that one proposition is equivalent to another logically equivalent proposition03:49
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Mohan_chmltemposs, okay. offtopic to #ubuntu-beginners-team03:49
seidostemposs, link?03:49
seidosMohan_chml is right.03:50
dan2038i did all that, and i reformatted it, but the virtual CD is still on the drive, is there any way to take it off?03:54
jim2022i recently bought a 1 TB external hard drive, and it has some "virtual cd" on it, with western digital software, and i can't figure out how to remove it, because it is interfering with my using it, and will only let it be set up on a mac or a pc, and not both, so I wanted to wipe the drive clean and somehow take off the virtual cd, can i do that?04:01
jim2022am i in the wrong place?04:05
dan2038i recently bought a 1 TB external hard drive, and it has some "virtual cd" on it, with western digital software, and i can't figure out how to remove it, because it is interfering with my using it, and will only let it be set up on a mac or a pc, and not both, so I wanted to wipe the drive clean and somehow take off the virtual cd, can i do that?04:07
tempossdan2038, There is often a piece of software that the maker of the device will have on their website04:09
tempossdan2038, what you should do is look for such a piece of software to remove the virtualpc04:09
tempossdan2038, "virtual cd"04:09
dan2038ok04:10
tempossdan2038, I have encountered something similar in SanDisk Cruzer Titanium flash drives04:10
tempossdan2038, whatever you try, you can't get rid of it, because it's actually buried in the firmware of the device, not the general storage04:10
dan2038ok04:11
dan2038so i'm sort of stuck with it?04:11
tempossdan2038, well, like with sandisk, they had an app that you could run to remove the firmware bit and turn it into a plain storage device04:12
tempossdan2038, so I found that on their site04:12
tempossdan2038, so, try and see if Western Digital has something like that for your device04:13
dan2038ok, they don't have anything like that on their website04:13
tempossI guess you're stuck with it04:13
tempossbut, I think this is what the problem is04:13
tempossyou might google around and see if anyone's hacked it or see if there's a third party app that will remove it04:14
seidosdan2038, maybe you can return it?04:14
dan2038alright, thank you very much, like a third party app from the ubuntu software place?04:15
dan2038I may try that, but i threw away the box already...04:15
kosaidpohello guys04:15
kosaidpoi need some help on C++ anyone ?04:15
temposskosaidpo, go ahead04:16
pedro3005kosaidpo, if it's simple, sure04:16
kosaidpook well i have CGG installed i have 3 files person.cpp and person.h and main.cpp04:16
kosaidpoi try to compile like this04:17
kosaidpog++ -c person.cpp -o person but it doesnt work i get nly a file04:17
kosaidpoidk how to execute it04:17
pedro3005./file04:17
kosaidpoyeh it says not found04:18
kosaidpolet me test it again to tel you the right output04:18
temposskosaidpo, he means ./person04:18
pedro3005I'm not sure how you compile several files like that. So far, all my programs are one huge file :P04:19
kosaidpoyeh well i found that -c option it means combine but doesnt link i guess that the issue04:20
seidoskosaidpo, you are trying to compile multiple files?04:22
kosaidpoyehh04:22
kosaidpowell its jst one but seperated tho04:22
kosaidpoi have file.cpp and file.h and main.cpp04:23
seidoskosaidpo, I would ask in #c++04:23
seidosthe only way I know how to compile multiple files is ./configure make make install04:23
seidosheh04:23
kosaidposeidos: how im new i jst started today : )04:24
kosaidpoi barely kno few option of CGG04:24
seidoskosaidpo, well, why are you trying to compile multiple files?04:25
seidoskosaidpo, why not use one file?04:25
pedro3005seidos, well, imagine if the entire OS was one file04:26
pedro3005heh04:26
pedro3005linux.c04:26
seidospedro3005, he said he was just starting.  Just starting and splitting up the program in multiple files?04:26
pedro3005kosaidpo, you just started C++ today?04:27
seidospedro3005, but that is an interesting idea.  why not? we have search capabilities in text editors :P04:27
kosaidpoyou kno i guess havin em seperated it help n i wont get lost easily04:27
pedro3005you should worry about that stuff later on04:28
kosaidpo1hello im bk i got disconnected04:30
pedro3005seidos, it'd take an ungodly amount of scrolling :p04:30
pedro3005Separating things makes it nice and neat04:30
seidospedro3005, not if you used goto line commands in your editor04:31
pedro3005but then you'd need to keep track of lines and such04:31
kosaidpo1yeh but get stucked on how to cimpile its pretty funny and frustrating too04:31
seidospedro3005, not necessarily, you could estimate, and you could put comment flags in the code04:33
Mohan_chmlkosaidpo, you can ghost your older nick if you get joined with another nick like kosaidpo1 and you canchange the nick04:34
kosaidpoim using pidigin so idk how to do it on it04:34
pedro3005seidos, and sometimes you need to be able to analyze the whole code. if you constantly need to move thousands of lines, it gets annoying04:34
kosaidpocan u help me04:34
seidospedro3005, that's a good point04:35
Mohan_chmlkosaidpo, when you logged in as kosaidpo1, check whether the nick kosaidpo still remains. If so, type /msg nickserv ghost kosaidpo "your password"04:35
pedro3005Mohan_chml, or simply /ghost04:35
Mohan_chmlthat will disconnect your old nick and now type /nick kosaidpo04:35
Mohan_chmlpedro3005, oh!!04:36
kosaidpouhm04:36
kosaidpowho changed it for me you ?04:36
kosaidpowell tnx tho04:37
Mohan_chmlno Its done automatically04:37
kosaidpooh how so ?04:37
seidosis there a place to type irc commands in pidgin?04:40
seidosI never used pidgin for irc04:40
kosaidposeidos: yes04:45
kosaidpothats how i join to rooms tho04:45
kosaidpobut i kno only that cmmd  : D04:46
seidoskosaidpo, oh04:47
kosaidpoyeh well pidgin its all in one software tho04:47
kosaidpoall protocals in one small prog04:48
seidosI don't really know anybody on any other protocols04:50
seidosand pidgin felt claustrophobic for irc04:50
Mohan_chmlkosaidpo, freenode always checks whether your connection is available or not by pinging you. kosaidpo1 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) means that your nick does not respond for 272 seconds and they disconnected your nick name04:51
Mohan_chmlwhen you do /ghost, it will show as "disconnected by services"04:52
kosaidpoMohan_chml: but me i didnt did it04:53
Mohan_chmlits freenode who did disconnected your nick04:53
kosaidpoah okies tnx04:54
Mohan_chml(:04:54
kosaidpouhm can you help me with some C++ noobie problem ?04:54
Mohan_chmlI am not that much good with C++. sorry04:54
kosaidpouhm and do you kno how to compile a programe that has files seperated ?04:55
kosaidpocus thats my problem04:55
Mohan_chmlI will try googling it04:56
kosaidpoMohan_chml: okiestnx cus ive googlin lbut no luck04:56
pedro3005kosaidpo, ask in #c++04:57
kosaidpoi've already tried04:58
kosaidpoit tells me i need an invite to post on the room04:58
Mohan_chmlkosaidpo, http://www.haverford.edu/cmsc/course-pages/usingMake.html04:59
kosaidpobut i do see people tlk tho04:59
Mohan_chmlkosaidpo, is there any sense in what I gave??04:59
kosaidpoi have to read first05:00
kosaidpobut i assume its another compiler05:00
kosaidpoi have CGG05:00
kosaidpoim not sure05:00
kosaidpoif its the same or not05:00
kosaidpoit is05:00
kosaidpotnx : )05:01
fayezhelo all12:42
fayezI am a linux newbe with a laptop problem12:43
fayezany one available to help me12:43
paultagfayez: at work :( -- hang around12:43
paultagfayez: someone'll be here12:44
Mohan_chmlfayez, yes c'mon12:44
fayezhelo there mohan12:44
fayezhere goes my problem12:44
Mohan_chmlhey fayez, what is the issue?12:44
fayezI have a hp laptop elitebook 2530 running ubuntu 10.4 LTS\12:45
Mohan_chmlokay12:45
fayezafter the last update12:45
fayezwireless is not working12:45
Mohan_chmlahha!!12:46
fayezalso the whole hardware controll pannel on the laptop is not working12:46
Mohan_chmlhardware control panel?12:46
fayezya12:46
fayezits like the function keys, volume keys12:46
fayezyou know hardware buttons to control wireless enable/disable12:47
Mohan_chmlis yes12:47
fayezvolume enable/disable12:47
fayezit is just dead12:47
fayezit used to work before12:47
Mohan_chmlokay goto system-> administration-> hardware drivers12:48
Mohan_chmlcheck whether its working!!12:48
fayezya I went there and there is no proprietory driver12:48
Mohan_chmlI ll search some more information12:48
fayeznot just now12:48
fayezbut from the clean installation12:48
Mohan_chmlfayez, can you do one thing??12:48
fayezsue12:48
fayezsure12:48
Mohan_chmlget back to the previous version while logging in. you understand what I mean?12:49
fayezpls explain12:49
philinuxfayez: At the grub prompt try the previous kernel12:49
fayezcool12:49
fayezhow do I do that12:49
Mohan_chmlfayez, you understand?? the boot screen will have "ubuntu generic *.21" and  and others12:50
fayezwhere do I change that12:50
fayezis it at the log in screen12:50
fayezor I interrupt the boot process with some function key12:51
Mohan_chmlwhen you start your machine, you will have some options displayed right!12:51
fayezand choose a different kernal12:51
fayezright12:51
Mohan_chmlin that you will see some ubuntu and memtest and other text before getting into ubuntu right!!12:51
fayezright12:51
Mohan_chmlthis is the first time you updated??12:52
fayezno12:52
Mohan_chmlokay12:52
fayezlots of updates every 2 to 3 days12:52
fayezsome times a week12:52
Mohan_chmlhmm you will see a line at the first as "ubuntu generic 23.0.1.24" or some similar numbers right!12:53
fayezright12:53
fayezaha12:53
fayezokay12:53
fayezI remember that12:53
fayezI selected a previous version of the kernal12:53
Mohan_chmlhmmm thats cool12:54
Mohan_chmlyou understood right!12:54
fayezright12:54
fayez:)12:54
fayezokay so if every thing works right12:54
fayezlet me try that12:55
Mohan_chmlthen you have to report a bug. If the hardware is still not working, Then report back here12:55
fayezI will log in from a different machine12:55
fayezI can do that12:55
Mohan_chmlokay12:55
fayezthanks for your help,12:55
Mohan_chmlheya philinux :)12:55
fayezreally appreciate it12:55
philinuxo/12:56
Mohan_chmlsup philinux ?12:56
philinuxSound is bugging me. I can get mic to record using sound recorder but not otherwise12:56
philinuxubuntustudio channle got no response all mia12:57
Mohan_chmlaww. Thats evil!12:57
philinuxAh someone got me brb12:57
Mohan_chmlokies12:58
fayez_mohan13:07
Mohan_chmlhey fayez_13:07
fayez_I didn't see the page you were talking about13:07
fayez_I saw it before on different versions13:08
Mohan_chmlno boot screen?13:08
fayez_but now I don't13:08
Mohan_chmlargh!13:08
fayez_strange ha13:08
Mohan_chmlyeah!13:09
Mohan_chmlokay do one thing. goto terminal and type sudo update-grub13:09
fayez_I dont see any grub messages13:09
Mohan_chml!grub2 | fayez_13:09
ubot2fayez_: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub213:09
Mohan_chmlfayez_, open up terminal now13:10
Mohan_chmland you did sudo update-grub?13:10
fayez_yes13:10
fayez_it is updating13:10
Mohan_chmlokay13:11
Mohan_chmlnow try restarting13:11
fayez_okay13:11
fayez_first let me join in from a different machine.13:11
Mohan_chmlokay13:11
harrisonMohan_chml still there?13:11
Mohan_chmlharrison, no :P13:12
harrisonwhat time it it in india?13:12
Mohan_chml17:4513:12
harrisonWhats up for discution?13:13
fayeziam restarting13:13
fayezno I don't see that page13:14
fayezagain13:14
Mohan_chmlawww13:14
harrisonGrub2?13:14
Mohan_chmlharrison, yep13:14
fayezit boot into "press esc of a list of menu"13:15
fayezand then to ubuntu13:15
Mohan_chmlbefore getting into first ubuntu, get to the third one13:15
fayezhelo13:16
philinuxWith grub2 you need to press shift qickly after post to get the menu13:16
fayezokay13:17
philinuxThen down arrow key to get to previous kernel13:17
fayezits is working13:17
fayezbut the problem presists13:18
Mohan_chmlin the older version too?13:19
fayezyes with the previous release too13:19
fayezwhile booting a screen comes for 2 sec13:19
fayezthe says fsck linux .......13:20
Mohan_chmlthen I dont its linuxs' issue13:21
fayezsome thing like file check or something13:22
fayezany ideas13:23
Mohan_chmlfayez, last try. you have a Lice CD or USB?13:24
Mohan_chmllive*13:24
fayezi ilive13:24
fayezlive13:24
Mohan_chmlokay boot from that and check whether the hardware is working13:24
fayezokay13:25
fayezhelo13:33
fayeznot working too13:33
Mohan_chmlhmmm then I am sure its not the Operating system Issue13:34
fayezyou're right13:34
fayezbut volume works fine13:34
Mohan_chmlhmmm...!13:34
fayezalthough the hardware control buttons are not functional13:35
fayezlan works too13:35
fayezon both os13:35
fayezthe live cd and the normal os13:35
Mohan_chmlcheck your laptop then13:35
fayezit is just wireless13:35
fayezwhen I do ifconfig wlan0 up13:36
fayezit gives this error13:36
fayezunkown error 13213:36
Mohan_chmlidk abou that error13:37
fayezidk?13:38
zeroseven0183Hi fayez, is the wireless of your machine not working?13:38
fayezyes13:38
zeroseven0183Have you tried checking if there is any drivers needed to download in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?13:38
Mohan_chmlhey zeroseven0183 (:13:39
zeroseven0183Sorry, I wasn't able to get the previous messages since I just logged in13:39
zeroseven0183What's up @Mohan_chml13:39
fayezthere is no propreitory drivers13:39
fayeznot now and not before. any ideas :(13:39
zeroseven0183What is your laptop's brand?13:40
Mohan_chmlzeroseven0183, nothing much!! you?13:40
fayezhp elitebook 2530p13:40
fayezthe main problem in my openion is :13:41
zeroseven0183So I'm guessing, you're dual booting? Right? Two operating systems?13:41
fayezno only ubuntu13:41
zeroseven0183I see13:41
zeroseven0183So while testing the LiveCD, did you encounter the same I error?13:42
fayezI cannot enable wireless because the wireless hardware control button is not working and it is disabled13:42
fayezit is over ridding the software command to enable wireless13:42
fayezhence LAN works and wireless not13:43
zeroseven0183Does it have any settings in the BIOS?13:43
fayezand voice works but i cant control it13:43
zeroseven0183Hmmmm... I do had some problems too with the controls on my HP Pavilion dv3 laptop13:43
fayezzero what do you think of what i said could that be the problem13:43
zeroseven0183Did you do an upgrade?13:45
fayezupgrade of?13:45
zeroseven0183Or was it a fresh install?13:45
fayezaha13:45
zeroseven0183Upgrade from old version to 10.04?13:45
fayezfresh install13:45
zeroseven0183I see. So it does not have an OS when you bought it?13:45
zeroseven0183I wonder13:45
fayezno it had xp13:45
fayezor vista13:46
fayezi don't know13:46
fayezbut windows for sure13:46
fayezevery thign used to work fine until recently13:46
zeroseven0183I see. So it used to work when it had XP13:47
zeroseven0183?13:47
fayezno it used to work when i installed 10.4 LTS13:47
fayezi didn't use the windows13:48
fayezi directly installed linuc13:48
zeroseven0183Ahhh13:48
fayezcheck this out13:48
fayezwhen i do ifconfig wlan0 up13:48
fayezresult is: SIOCSIFFLAGS: unkown error 13213:49
fayezi am guessing SIOCSIF - FLAG is the wireless hardware flag that is overridding the command to bring up the wireless13:50
zeroseven0183I see. Have you tried resetting to default your BIOS13:51
zeroseven0183?13:51
fayezdo you know how to do it13:52
zeroseven0183I'm looking at a similar problem in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011790. Although, the poster has a different model, resetting the BIOs to its default worked for him.. and another user13:52
fayezokay let me try13:52
zeroseven0183When you start your laptop, press F1013:52
zeroseven0183Then you should see at least a screen (blue in color)13:52
zeroseven0183with white bar on the top menu13:53
fayezokay done13:53
zeroseven0183the option to reset to default is usually on the first menu13:53
fayezi think it works13:53
philinuxMohan_chml: got my mic and guitar playing now13:54
zeroseven0183Alright, let's see once your Ubuntu boots13:54
fayezthe wireless hardware button is blue "functional "13:54
zeroseven0183good13:54
fayezyes13:54
Mohan_chmlWow philinux. Awesome13:54
fayezi can scan for wireless13:54
philinuxMohan_chml: Jack sound server13:54
fayez:)13:54
zeroseven0183I see13:55
fayezthx guys,13:55
zeroseven0183So that made it work?13:55
fayezyes13:55
zeroseven0183Alright. Good to know13:55
zeroseven0183Now, it's time for you to enjoy your laptop :-)13:55
fayezwireless button are working along with wireless connection13:55
Mohan_chmlzeroseven0183, I was not thinking about that O_O13:56
Mohan_chmlphilinux, oh thats the problem?13:56
fayezbut the volume control buttons are still dimmed13:56
Mohan_chml:(13:56
zeroseven0183@Mohan_chml I used to work as HP tech support13:56
fayezgood news13:57
zeroseven0183That was the first thing I thought when fayez told about the controls13:57
Mohan_chmlzeroseven0183, that cool13:57
philinuxMohan_chml: on a default install mic and linein inputs are not connected to any outputs. You can record albeit silently and playback. Jack is needed to connect the input to output.13:57
zeroseven0183Good to know I was able to help :-)13:58
zeroseven0183Makes me happy :-)13:58
Mohan_chmlphilinux, okay tell me how to enable it13:58
Mohan_chmlzeroseven0183, :)13:58
fayezthanks alot13:59
philinuxMohan_chml: install jack, also get qjackctl and optional patchage13:59
Mohan_chmlphilinux, apt-get -I jack?13:59
philinuxMohan_chml: I used synaptic, but I cant run jack unless I use gksu so I need to sort permissions. I've added an audio group but it still fials14:00
Mohan_chmlhmmm k14:00
serfushey mt-lith , do you need some help?14:01
mt-lithserfus: no, but thanks14:02
serfusokay :)14:03
philinuxMohan_chml: sorted now. Sys>Admin >users and groups added myself to audio now works fine14:09
Mohan_chmlphilinux, good to hear :)14:12
philinuxMohan_chml: this jack server settings are manic. Wow what a learning curve here.14:12
Mohan_chmlabhi, abhinav right!14:37
abhii have installed ubuntu 10.04 on my acer 5740 laptop but it is not showing the drivers list of the hardware14:38
abhiplease give answer14:38
Mohan_chmlabhi, you updated it/14:39
Mohan_chml?14:39
Mohan_chmlabhi, please you are still hanging out there?14:40
abhiyes i have updated it on 17/08/201014:40
Mohan_chmlthen it will automatically detect your hardware. If you want to list your hardware, goto terminal and type lspci14:41
Mohan_chmlthet will show the drivers installed for the software. If you have a particular issue, please point that abhi14:41
abhithank u for the help i14:42
Mohan_chmlhave a nice day abhi (:14:42
abhii want to ask some more question tomorrow , will u be online tomorrow? if yes  then at what time  you will enter the chat14:47
Mohan_chmlabhi, tomorrow means?14:48
Mohan_chmlabhi, where are you from??14:48
abhiplese reply mohan!!!!!!!!14:48
abhiim from mumbai14:48
Mohan_chmlabhi, I asked you some question and our team will always help you whenever you come, even in my absence14:48
Mohan_chmlabhi, tell you are from India (:14:48
Mohan_chmlI will be here till by tomorrow morning 10 AM IST14:49
Mohan_chmlabhi, got the answer?14:49
abhisorry !!!!!!!!  are u in india or abroad ?14:49
Mohan_chmlI am from India. No worries and why dont you ask the question by today??14:49
Mohan_chmllukjad, poke14:50
* Mohan_chml needs some cookies. Starving14:52
Mohan_chmlstarcraft, how is ya?15:26
starcrafthi Mohan_chml, goes well, playing sc2. Man this game rocks :)15:28
Mohan_chmlsc?15:28
malevhi guys! how is everything?15:29
Mohan_chmlstarcraft, sc?15:29
Mohan_chmlsoccer?15:29
Mohan_chmlheya malev. It goes fine :)15:29
starcraftMohan_chml: starcraft 2 of course :)15:29
Mohan_chml:o lol forgot that15:29
Puck`hey guys15:29
Mohan_chmlOMG Puck`15:30
starcraftlo puck and malev15:30
* Mohan_chml runs and hides15:30
Puck`how do i know from an Ubuntu CD which version it is?15:30
Puck`without booting it of course15:30
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Mohan_chmlPuck`, without even inserting it?15:30
Puck`Mohan_chml: it is inserted15:30
Puck`vbox doesn't boot it because it's an AMD64 version15:31
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Mohan_chmlokay it will show try or instal ubuntu 10.04 or something right!15:31
Mohan_chmloh you are asking in that way..!15:31
Puck`okay, i got it15:31
Mohan_chmlokies15:31
Puck`thx (:15:31
Mohan_chml(:15:31
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MordredHello. Looking for help.15:43
Mohan_chmlheya Mordred15:43
MordredHello. Thanks. I am currently doing an install on an MSI CR700 notebook using Ubuntu 10.04 32bit. On install, I selected "nomodeset" so that it could be installed. Otherwise, installation would hang. The laptop has an nVidia chipset and video card (8200m G)15:45
MordredThe installation went OK. But, it won't boot. It will stay in the purple screen.15:45
Mohan_chmlwhen the installation hanged, what error it showed up?15:46
MordredThere's a recovery Win7 partition (1), a WIn7 main partition (2), anoter partition for data in Win (3) and this partitions (4 and 5)15:47
MordredNone. No errors.15:47
Mordredit would not even install. It would load the purple screen and then hang with a white square.15:47
Mohan_chmlMordred, do one thing, get into live CD and look at the contents of grub.cfg file located in the partition where ubuntu is installed15:48
Mordredok, trying to go into live CD now.15:48
Mohan_chmlokay15:49
MordredThanks for the help. Nowadays, IRC is full of trolls and it's really hard to get help.15:50
Mordredstill loading liveCD15:50
Mohan_chmlMordred, all has their personal works and when we are free, we always help :)15:51
MordredOK, Checking now15:53
Mordredsorry, a bit of a newbie... where do I find the cfg file?15:54
Mohan_chmlfind the partition you install ubuntu. do not look inside the file system15:54
Mohan_chmlinstalled*15:54
MordredI am looking at the 4 partitions now. says (60gb filesystem)15:55
Mohan_chmlokay which partition has linux files like boot, opt, etc and other folders?15:56
Mordredthat one15:56
Mohan_chmlokay, get into boot->grub15:57
Mordreddone15:57
Mohan_chmland inside that you can find grub.cfg15:57
Mohan_chmlopen it15:57
MordredDOne15:57
MordredDOne, looking at it now.15:58
Mohan_chmlin that, is there and module that begins with menuentry "Ubuntu....." near to theend of that file?15:59
Mordredlooking. just a sec...16:01
Mohan_chmlokies16:01
Mordredfound them - normal and generic.16:01
Mohan_chmlhmmm16:01
Mordredfirst one and then "Recovery Mode"16:02
Mohan_chmljust copy the content inside that first module and copy paste it in paste.ubuntu.com16:02
MordredA sec16:03
Mohan_chmlokay16:04
Mordredhmm does not recognize my wireless. only my wired, and I have no access to that...16:04
Mordredgive me a sec.16:04
Mohan_chmlokay Mordred take you time :)16:05
Mordred### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###16:07
Mordredmenuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {16:07
Mordredrecordfail16:07
Mordredinsmod ext216:07
Mordredset root='(hd0,5)'16:07
Mordredsearch --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 69d9a34f-9961-4e6a-8505-b08bcc2c264a16:07
Mordredlinux/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic root=UUID=69d9a34f-9961-4e6a-8505-b08bcc2c264a ro   quiet splash16:07
Mordredinitrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic16:07
Mordred}16:07
Mohan_chmlaww Mordred not here16:07
Mohan_chml!pastebin | Mordred16:07
ubot2Mordred: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:07
MordredSorry16:07
MordredDone.16:08
Mordredhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/480995/16:08
Mohan_chmlMordred, http://paste.ubuntu.com/480997/16:10
Mohan_chmlcompare insmod options of your file and the link I gave16:10
Mohan_chmldo not change any others16:11
Mohan_chmlMordred, waIT16:12
Mordredok16:12
Mordredno changes yet16:12
Mohan_chmli found a solution that you need i think16:12
Mordredok16:12
Mohan_chmlMordred, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html16:12
Mohan_chmllook that16:12
Mordredgoing16:12
Mohan_chmlokay16:13
Mordredok, i am leaving the LiveCD and restarting. no changes to the grub cfg16:14
Mohan_chmlMordred, okay16:15
Mohan_chmlI totally forgot about the link between xorg and blank screen :/16:15
MordredI am in, able to login. Will activate the nvidia drivers now. After that, I should be done, right? According to the page im reading.16:19
MordredRG16:20
Mordredsorry wroing window. Working on this, Ubuntu and at work at the same time.16:20
theXperthello16:24
theXperti just had a call on my ubuntu system, i was unable to track in which application it was ringing, i currently hv firefox, pidgin n skype running, i chked all applications, but it didnt appear anywhr, how shud i track it16:24
Mohan_chmlhey hobgoblin ty for coming my saviour16:25
Mohan_chmlI ll PM you an issue16:25
* hobgoblin doubts that 16:25
Mohan_chmlI ll brb16:26
Mordredthanks. Trying to connect now.16:27
MordredMohan_chml, YOU HAVE BEEN MOST HELPFUL. tHANKS.16:27
theXpertya Mordred, i agree16:28
Mohan_chmlback16:30
Mohan_chmltheXpert, I am not sure about the sounds of pingin. But it might be skype. It will list the calls you missed at the middle. I am sure its not firefox!16:31
Mohan_chmlhobgoblin, whats up my friend?16:32
hobgoblin?16:32
Mohan_chmlhobgoblin, sup?16:32
Mohan_chml0_0 Wrong question??16:32
hobgoblinnot mucj - just came here to idle as though I was still a member ;)16:33
Mohan_chml;)16:33
hobgoblinso what issue?16:33
Mohan_chmlhobgoblin, Its not an issue at all :P. I just hurried up w/o reading what he typed :D16:34
hobgoblinoh - k16:34
Mohan_chmlits about a voice call missed in his machine16:34
Mohan_chmlMom Shouts. Brb dinner16:34
hobgoblinprobably skype then16:35
Mohan_chmlohai shredder1216:50
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Mohan_chmlill brb after an hour17:10
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FayrI'm having trouble setting up my VirtualHosts with apache2 and ubuntu8.04 lts server.  In /etc/apache2/sites-available I have files with the name of my domains and the contents are like this: http://pastie.org/private/dmdadjnk9ylr9xuafzqw18:53
abhijeethow to install drivers18:57
aveilleuxA little more detail is needed, abhijeet. What drivers are you trying to install>18:58
aveilleux?*18:58
abhijeetmy laptop is acer 574018:59
aveilleuxThat's not helpful, abhijeet. What hardware is not working?18:59
abhijeetsynaptics touchapad  acer web cam19:00
aveilleuxWell, for the webcam, I would suggest19:01
aveilleux!webcam |abhijeet19:01
ubot2abhijeet: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras19:01
abhijeetmy laptop has intel hd graphics how can i install drivers for the chipset19:02
aveilleuxAlso, it would appear that your touchpad is not supported by xserver-xorg-input-synaptics https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/54972719:03
ubot2Launchpad bug 549727 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Invisible item at beginning of software item screen's tab order (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]19:03
aveilleuxSilly ubot, that's not the right LP bug19:03
aveilleux!intelgraphics19:04
ubot2Factoid 'intelgraphics' not found19:04
aveilleuxabhijeet: Intel HD graphics should be supported out of the box in Lucid. What version of Ubuntu are you running?19:05
abhijeetubuntu 10.019:06
abhijeetubuntu 10.04 lts19:06
aveilleuxYeah, Intel HD graphics should work out of the box19:06
abhijeetwhat about the wifi , realtech hd audio graphics19:06
aveilleuxShould work without a hitch, I've installed Ubuntu on a simlar system without problems19:07
aveilleuxHave you tried the install yet, or are you still looking into Ubuntu>19:07
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abhijeeti have istalled ubuntu fro the live cd and recently ordered the ubuntu dvd and repositaries what is the difference in the ubuntu cd and ubuntu dvd19:08
aveilleuxabhijeet: You don't need the DVD unless you use a language that doesn't come with the typical Ubuntu CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd19:11
aveilleuxabhijeet: Most people *do not* need the DVD19:11
abhijeetare the dvd's only for language support i thought that it may have additional applications and plugins19:12
aveilleuxabhijeet: No. Read the description here: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd19:14
aveilleuxabhijeet: Any applications you could want are probably on the repository. There's no need to order anything for "additional software", since it's all free anyway and available online19:15
abhijeetsir can i use each and every applicaTION MADE FOR WINDOWS IN UBUNTU19:18
aveilleuxNo. You can't use any applications made for Windows natively in Ubuntu. There is a compatibility layer called WINE that can help, but it doesn't work for each and every piece of software written for Windows.19:19
abhijeeti have innstalled windwos xp windows 7 and ubuntu on my laptop both winows 7 is pirated i want to reinstall windows xp and ubuntu on my laptop and format the windows 7 can windows xp and ubuntu dual boot without any proble19:23
aveilleuxCan you rephrase that, abhijeet? Preferably using punctuation marks?19:25
abhijeetsorry sir. I have installed windows 7, windows xp and ubuntu on my acer 5740 .The windows 7 copy is pirated and i dont want to use it. Can i reinstall windows xp and ubuntu with dual boot without any problem ? and what sequence to be followed for the installation19:30
aveilleuxabhijeet: Install Windows XP first, taking up half the drive with the NTFS partition. Then install Ubuntu, taking the other half for ext4 and swap. Ubuntu will pick up the Windows installation and add it to GRUB (the bootloader) automatically19:31
abhijeetthanks for the help i will ask u some more questions after the installation has done . good night !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!19:34
aveilleuxGood night, you're welcome19:35
mistryniteshabhijeet: hope you have already referred to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot - if not, you would want to before actually doing anything. It also has links to other useful resources19:36
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