[00:00] harridon_: No [00:00] harrison_* [00:01] what is up with #ubuntu? [00:01] yes just maniged to get a system malfunction device shutdown in 10 secs on my nokia n900 :-( [00:01] did you do that or did it do it itself? [00:02] i did it [00:03] did you want that to happen? [00:05] no an error ocured i reset to system default rebooted fine and wan't recover my safety backup [00:06] so now i'm googleing like a mad man [00:07] *wanted to restore my backup [01:21] I am currently running Ubuntu Lucid 64bit, can I install ArchLinux desktop environment and choose between them at startup without damaging my Ubuntu? If yes, How? [01:21] You should be able to do a dual boot with arch and Ubuntu [01:22] yeah, and I've never done it, so I couldn't say. You could try searching the web to see if anyone out there has done it successfully, Cl1FF [01:22] Cl1FF, would running archlinux in a virtual desktop work for you? [01:23] zkriesse, not installing it in separate partition, im talkin about having them both in the same partition and choosing them at the login screen [01:24] seidos, does virtual desktop work well? How is it? [01:24] Cl1FF, I liked it when I used to be able to use it, heh. But when it was working on my system, I thought it was awesome. === bgs101 is now known as bgs100 === theXpert1 is now known as theXpert [02:31] I bought a western digital hard drive, 1 TB, and there is some nonsense WD Smartware software on it as a CD some how, and i just want to erase the drive entirely, including the "CD" (i think it is a virtual cd?) and format it as one big partition to FAT32, i tried using disk utility, but it said the virtual CD was "read-only" and i was wondering if there was any software i could download, or anything i could do to just over-ride [02:34] Can you use gparted [02:34] dan9818: Judging that you used "Disk Utility" I assume you're on a Mac..? [02:36] um, I have Ubuntu on an IBM [02:36] but I do own Macs [02:36] cool [02:36] dan9818: Ubuntu comes with a Disk Utility? I've never seen it [02:37] dan9818 have you ever used gparted? [02:37] no [02:37] but I can if you need me to [02:37] but yes, mine does have disk utility [02:37] Open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install gparted" [02:37] dan9818: The easiest way to edit partition information would be GParted [02:37] ok [02:38] !gparted [02:38] gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php [02:38] Out of curiosity, what program does Ubuntu use and call "Disk Utility"? [02:39] aveilleux: it is psypalmset from memory, let me go look it up [02:40] aveilleux: palimpsest [02:41] Interesting. I've never seen it before. [02:41] dan9818: do you have it installed? [02:41] I've used that to 'nuke' a hard drive :p [02:41] phillw: ever heard of DBAN? [02:42] yes, it just finished [02:42] dan9818: good [02:42] From the terminal type sudo gparted [02:43] harrison, dan9818: No, use gksudo gparted [02:43] harrison I try to stick with what we have, life is hard enough for my brain cells. I have a gparted CD, but a standard ubuntu LiveCD has always worked for me, I only use the disk utilities for usb mounted hard drives. [02:43] harrison, dan9818: gksudo is a different version of sudo that's designed for graphical applications [02:44] phillw please repeat please. [02:46] dan9818: is gparted open? [02:46] how do i use gksudo gparted? [02:46] type it in the terminal [02:46] harrison disk utilities will format / partition a drive that is not in use. If you wish to make alterations to your 'live running' Hard Dive, you need to use gparted from either a ubuntu CD or the gparted one. [02:47] pillw: I think dan9818 has an external hard drive not an internal one. [02:47] harrison for the difference between sudo and gksudo, please have a quick read of http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo getting it wrong "can" mess things up. [02:48] oh, I didn't know that I always thought they were the same. [02:48] gparted is open [02:49] why does one 'nuke' a hard drive?how? [02:49] the disk utilities under administration menu, will be able to take of an external hard drive. although if you are at all unsure, I'd really suggest reading up on it. formatted hard drives are nearly impossible to recover. [02:49] in the uper right corner there is a dropdown list, click it and select your hard drive [02:52] phillw I now understand Thanks [02:52] JoeMaverickSett: it resets the disk, similar to "fresh out of the factory"; there are varying degrees to do that depending if you wish all data to removed and scambled, or just wish to start from scratch. [02:52] dan9818 did you get it? [02:55] phillw: if i wanted my disk to be "fresh out of the factory" or start from scratch, how do i do that? any wiki/guides would you recommend me to read? [02:57] JoeMaverickSett: sorry if you asked phillw and got me but try DBAN (I will find the link in a moment) [02:57] JoeMaverickSett: here it is http://www.dban.org/ [02:58] It wippes the hard drive with the DoD algorithyms. [02:59] JoeMaverickSett, what I can say is, Work on it, Learn the basics and when you have doubt, ping us and when you are ready to blow, start with bash scripts if you are interested in working out with kernels. If you wanna have knowledge practically, remain here and try helping people at your best. You will get a great exposure :) [02:59] Mohan_chml: alrighty, dude. i'll surely do that. :) [03:00] harrison: thanks for the help. appreciate it. :D [03:00] wb paultag [03:02] ty, second [03:02] dan9818 still there? === phillw is now known as phillw_away [03:02] hey, this is the person who was previously dan9818, sorry, my computer froze [03:02] harrison, I thin you got the answer :) [03:02] understandable [03:02] think* [03:03] hey dan2038 [03:03] dan2038 is gparted going? [03:03] it is [03:03] in the uper right corner there is a dropdown list, click it and select your hard drive [03:03] harrison, are you working in GNOME environment? [03:04] yes [03:04] cool [03:04] I am actualy doing this on memory [03:04] it is searching /dev/sdb partitions [03:04] did you say it was 2 TB? [03:05] 1TB [03:05] * Mohan_chml scrolls up to see the issue type [03:05] if it is it will be a while [03:05] even 1 TB drives [03:05] ok, and I have a fairly slow computer, or the one I have on Ubuntu is [03:06] ok [03:06] its is done searching [03:06] Mohan_chml how do you make those comments? [03:06] harrison, /me scrolls up to see the issue type [03:06] thats it :) [03:06] Dan2038: look in the top right corner [03:06] Thanks [03:07] ok [03:07] there should be a dropdown menu [03:07] yes [03:07] select your 1 TB drive [03:07] ok [03:07] Most likely /dev/sdb [03:07] it is, and it only shows one partition [03:08] what does the bar in the top look like? [03:08] Sorry didn't look up [03:08] harrison, gimme a sec [03:08] you doing this as well? [03:09] dan2038, open up terminal, type sudo fdis -l and copy paste the response to paste.ubuntu.com [03:09] harrison, LOL no :P [03:09] err sudo fdisk -l [03:09] hey dan2038 ^ [03:09] I made a typo [03:09] ok [03:10] is that a - and the letter I? [03:10] harrison, that makes work simple :D [03:10] L [03:10] dan2038, "L" [03:10] what work? [03:10] this is fun not work [03:10] most of the time [03:10] harrison, :o but for him its not fun :P [03:11] I see now [03:12] ok, just a second [03:12] i got i/o errors when i installed Ubuntu on my laptop, and one guy suggested that i might try 'nuking' my disk, should i do that or not? photo is here: http://twitpic.com/2c2rba [03:12] dan2038, save it in paste.ubuntu.com and give us the link here. You cant copy by pressing ctrl+c, use your mouse to select and right click [03:13] JoeMaverickSett, It is not booting up even you restart? [03:14] Disk /dev/sda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylindersUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytesSector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytesDisk identifier: 0x2990bc44 [03:14] Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System/dev/sda1 * 1 7109 57103011 83 Linux /dev/sda2 7110 7296 1502077+ 5 Extended/dev/sda5 7110 7296 1502046 82 Linux swap / Solaris [03:14] Disk /dev/sdb: 999.5 GB, 999501594624 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121515 cylindersUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytesSector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytesI/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0001c8b0 [03:14] Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System/dev/sdb1 * 1 121515 976069206 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) [03:14] !paste | dan2038 [03:14] dan2038: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [03:14] ty pedro3005 :) [03:14] dan2038, don't use the channel to paste. Use paste.ubuntu.com [03:15] after it shows the I/O erros and reboots, nothing seems to be wrong. the whole OS works.... [03:15] what do i put where it says poster? [03:15] nevermind [03:16] you have to copy paste there and click save [03:16] dan2038, well you set it to lba?? [03:16] FAT32 (LBA) [03:16] where is save? download as text? [03:17] sorry you pasted it [03:17] ok [03:17] now copy the url and paste it here [03:17] thats the procedure to show to people [03:17] http://paste.ubuntu.com/480729/ [03:17] dan2038, good [03:17] ok, i got it [03:17] and you set it as lba??? [03:18] gotta love pastebin [03:18] um, not intentionally, i don't know what that means [03:18] harrison, you still there? [03:19] dan2038, just goto gparted and look at the last tab, right click on lba and deselect it [03:19] Mohan_chml: after it shows the I/O erros and reboots, nothing seems to be wrong. the whole OS works....it's weird though. [03:20] JoeMaverickSett, it may be soem particular process that died [03:20] I fourgot the command of process status [03:20] ok [03:20] lemme look I think its "ps" [03:21] pedro3005, any idea of making the boot logs displayed?? [03:21] * Mohan_chml is tired of googling [03:22] Mohan_chml: eh, nvm. that laptop is the one i'm using now! =D just wanted to know. [03:23] JoeMaverickSett, but its good to know why :) [03:23] Mohan_chml yes I am back [03:24] harrison, (: [03:24] yes. [03:24] JoeMaverickSett, your nick is BIG 0_0 [03:24] dan2038, you did that? [03:24] Mohan_chml: hehe! yeah! :D [03:24] i did [03:25] Mohan_chml: you need an app that will google for you [03:25] :-) === theXpert1 is now known as theXpert [03:25] temposs, my bot has that. But I need pedro3005 here :D [03:25] what? [03:25] dan2038, now you want to format it to FAT32 right!!! [03:26] yes [03:26] did we take away that virtual CD thing that was on there? [03:26] dan2038, now, right click on /dev/sdb1 and i think there will be an option called "format to" i think [03:27] ok [03:27] argh! virtual CD.! [03:27] dan2038, In that you can see FAT33 and all other formats. You can use any. Even NTFS [03:28] pedro3005, I told you to find a way to save and display the logs of boot process [03:28] alright [03:28] pedro3005, JoeMaverickSett is having an Issue. Please do that =] [03:29] temposs, Your name is andrew!!! [03:29] Mohan_chml: that's true! [03:30] * Mohan_chml thinks about our old friend andrew46 :'( We really miss him :'( [03:30] :o [03:30] Mohan_chml, /var/logs ? [03:30] Mohan_chml DO you need my help? [03:30] *do [03:30] Mohan_chml: did he just stop coming? [03:31] harrison, if you can, I ll be happy. Coz you are following him from the head to tail :) [03:31] temposs, he got some personal issues and he left the team :( [03:31] dan2038 were are you? [03:31] it is formatting the drive [03:32] what do you need help with? [03:33] i don't think i need help with anything any more, i think this should work [03:33] thank you guys [03:34] your welcome [03:34] Next [03:34] rest [03:34] :D [03:34] Mohan_chml: herbal tea helps [03:35] temposs, that will :) [03:35] yea I guess I should its 10:34 in eastren Canada, I like orange peco better. [03:35] its 8 AM here (: [03:35] Where is here? [03:35] harrison, India [03:36] I was talking to a guy from sudi arabia yesterday. [03:36] Mohan_chml: which province? [03:36] Quebec [03:36] >_> [03:36] Right on the border with the US [03:37] temposs, Tamil Nadu. You can see https://launchpad.net/~mohanchml [03:37] temposs, it has the map :) [03:37] harrison, nice [03:37] pedro3005, I need a terminal code to display the boot logs [03:38] Mohan_chml have you ever setup a server? [03:38] Mohan_chml, cat /var/log/boot ? [03:38] No. I am going to do it in about a week [03:38] Mohan_chml: doesn't have map :-( [03:39] Mohan_chml: but it's in the east, right? [03:39] pedro3005, we have to enable logging first. So explain me from the scratch [03:39] south tip [03:39] temposs, ^ [03:39] Mohan_chml, I don't know :x [03:39] pedro3005, thats why I said GOOGLE [03:39] you don't have to enable logging [03:39] logging is just enabled [03:40] well, what kind of logging are you talking about? [03:40] seidos, no its not displaying for me [03:40] seidos, good question [03:40] Mohan_chml, well, I have no idea what logs you are trying to look at [03:40] devil@devil-laptop:~$ cat /var/log/boot [03:40] (Nothing has been logged yet.) [03:40] same here. [03:40] seidos, boot logging up all the process [03:40] Mohan_chml, I see your problem. You don't need technical advice...you need an exorcism on your computer [03:40] har har [03:41] Mohan_chml, http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8525746&postcount=9 [03:41] lol [03:41] Mohan_chml, syslog? [03:41] guess i need exorcism also. =P [03:41] I *think* boot events are recorded in syslog [03:41] seidos, :o [03:41] my brain and heart need an exorcism. I'm possessed! \o/. I mean O_o [03:42] pedro3005, I know all the stuff that we have to enable and have to look. But idk where to enable and I AM TIRED OF GOOGLING:d [03:42] Mohan_chml, it's explained in there [03:42] * Mohan_chml smacks seidos [03:42] pedro3005, I saw that and thank you (: [03:43] JoeMaverickSett, you saw that? [03:43] JonathanD, hello [03:43] man, I'm tired of googling too. someone google for me [03:43] Mohan_chml: yup. thanks. [03:43] * Mohan_chml giggles at seidos [03:43] boot logging isn't enabled...hmmm. so what the heck is in syslog? [03:44] I think there could be some good money in auto-googling [03:44] seidos, its syslog [03:44] Mohan_chml, tautology? [03:44] seidos, may be 0_o [03:44] temposs, yeah, didn't some companies try that? [03:44] so will that show why i got I/O errors, the first time i install Ubuntu? [03:44] seldos, need some neural interface, though [03:45] Mohan_chml, semantic tautology is like when you say the same thing more than once. [03:45] !tab | temposs [03:45] temposs: You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [03:45] seidos, x_0 [03:45] \o/ for the bot [03:46] Mohan_chml, me someday -> x_x [03:46] lol seidos [03:46] * Mohan_chml stares at seidos [03:46] seidos, thx [03:47] temposs, don't thank me, thank the person who programmed ubot2 [03:47] JoeMaverickSett, is that at the first time you logged in?? [03:47] temposs, actually, just thank me, I have no idea who programmed ubot2 [03:48] PabloRubianes_, you are multiplying?? [03:48] Mohan_chml: nope. that happened when i install Ubuntu. but the OS came back ok after the reboot. [03:49] seidos, semantic tautology is when you say that one proposition is equivalent to another logically equivalent proposition === PabloRubianes_ is now known as PabloRubianes [03:49] temposs, okay. offtopic to #ubuntu-beginners-team [03:49] temposs, link? [03:50] Mohan_chml is right. [03:54] i did all that, and i reformatted it, but the virtual CD is still on the drive, is there any way to take it off? [04:01] i recently bought a 1 TB external hard drive, and it has some "virtual cd" on it, with western digital software, and i can't figure out how to remove it, because it is interfering with my using it, and will only let it be set up on a mac or a pc, and not both, so I wanted to wipe the drive clean and somehow take off the virtual cd, can i do that? [04:05] am i in the wrong place? [04:07] i recently bought a 1 TB external hard drive, and it has some "virtual cd" on it, with western digital software, and i can't figure out how to remove it, because it is interfering with my using it, and will only let it be set up on a mac or a pc, and not both, so I wanted to wipe the drive clean and somehow take off the virtual cd, can i do that? [04:09] dan2038, There is often a piece of software that the maker of the device will have on their website [04:09] dan2038, what you should do is look for such a piece of software to remove the virtualpc [04:09] dan2038, "virtual cd" [04:10] ok [04:10] dan2038, I have encountered something similar in SanDisk Cruzer Titanium flash drives [04:10] dan2038, whatever you try, you can't get rid of it, because it's actually buried in the firmware of the device, not the general storage [04:11] ok [04:11] so i'm sort of stuck with it? [04:12] dan2038, well, like with sandisk, they had an app that you could run to remove the firmware bit and turn it into a plain storage device [04:12] dan2038, so I found that on their site [04:13] dan2038, so, try and see if Western Digital has something like that for your device [04:13] ok, they don't have anything like that on their website [04:13] I guess you're stuck with it [04:13] but, I think this is what the problem is [04:14] you might google around and see if anyone's hacked it or see if there's a third party app that will remove it [04:14] dan2038, maybe you can return it? [04:15] alright, thank you very much, like a third party app from the ubuntu software place? [04:15] I may try that, but i threw away the box already... [04:15] hello guys [04:15] i need some help on C++ anyone ? [04:16] kosaidpo, go ahead [04:16] kosaidpo, if it's simple, sure [04:16] ok well i have CGG installed i have 3 files person.cpp and person.h and main.cpp [04:17] i try to compile like this [04:17] g++ -c person.cpp -o person but it doesnt work i get nly a file [04:17] idk how to execute it [04:17] ./file [04:18] yeh it says not found [04:18] let me test it again to tel you the right output [04:18] kosaidpo, he means ./person [04:19] I'm not sure how you compile several files like that. So far, all my programs are one huge file :P [04:20] yeh well i found that -c option it means combine but doesnt link i guess that the issue [04:22] kosaidpo, you are trying to compile multiple files? [04:22] yehh [04:22] well its jst one but seperated tho [04:23] i have file.cpp and file.h and main.cpp [04:23] kosaidpo, I would ask in #c++ [04:23] the only way I know how to compile multiple files is ./configure make make install [04:23] heh [04:24] seidos: how im new i jst started today : ) [04:24] i barely kno few option of CGG [04:25] kosaidpo, well, why are you trying to compile multiple files? [04:25] kosaidpo, why not use one file? [04:26] seidos, well, imagine if the entire OS was one file [04:26] heh [04:26] linux.c [04:26] pedro3005, he said he was just starting. Just starting and splitting up the program in multiple files? [04:27] kosaidpo, you just started C++ today? [04:27] pedro3005, but that is an interesting idea. why not? we have search capabilities in text editors :P [04:27] you kno i guess havin em seperated it help n i wont get lost easily [04:28] you should worry about that stuff later on [04:30] hello im bk i got disconnected [04:30] seidos, it'd take an ungodly amount of scrolling :p [04:30] Separating things makes it nice and neat [04:31] pedro3005, not if you used goto line commands in your editor [04:31] but then you'd need to keep track of lines and such [04:31] yeh but get stucked on how to cimpile its pretty funny and frustrating too [04:33] pedro3005, not necessarily, you could estimate, and you could put comment flags in the code [04:34] kosaidpo, you can ghost your older nick if you get joined with another nick like kosaidpo1 and you canchange the nick [04:34] im using pidigin so idk how to do it on it [04:34] seidos, and sometimes you need to be able to analyze the whole code. if you constantly need to move thousands of lines, it gets annoying [04:34] can u help me [04:35] pedro3005, that's a good point [04:35] kosaidpo, when you logged in as kosaidpo1, check whether the nick kosaidpo still remains. If so, type /msg nickserv ghost kosaidpo "your password" [04:35] Mohan_chml, or simply /ghost [04:35] that will disconnect your old nick and now type /nick kosaidpo [04:36] pedro3005, oh!! [04:36] uhm [04:36] who changed it for me you ? [04:37] well tnx tho [04:37] no Its done automatically [04:37] oh how so ? [04:40] is there a place to type irc commands in pidgin? [04:40] I never used pidgin for irc [04:45] seidos: yes [04:45] thats how i join to rooms tho [04:46] but i kno only that cmmd : D [04:47] kosaidpo, oh [04:47] yeh well pidgin its all in one software tho [04:48] all protocals in one small prog [04:50] I don't really know anybody on any other protocols [04:50] and pidgin felt claustrophobic for irc [04:51] kosaidpo, freenode always checks whether your connection is available or not by pinging you. kosaidpo1 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) means that your nick does not respond for 272 seconds and they disconnected your nick name [04:52] when you do /ghost, it will show as "disconnected by services" [04:53] Mohan_chml: but me i didnt did it [04:53] its freenode who did disconnected your nick [04:54] ah okies tnx [04:54] (: [04:54] uhm can you help me with some C++ noobie problem ? [04:54] I am not that much good with C++. sorry [04:55] uhm and do you kno how to compile a programe that has files seperated ? [04:55] cus thats my problem [04:56] I will try googling it [04:56] Mohan_chml: okiestnx cus ive googlin lbut no luck [04:57] kosaidpo, ask in #c++ [04:58] i've already tried [04:58] it tells me i need an invite to post on the room [04:59] kosaidpo, http://www.haverford.edu/cmsc/course-pages/usingMake.html [04:59] but i do see people tlk tho [04:59] kosaidpo, is there any sense in what I gave?? [05:00] i have to read first [05:00] but i assume its another compiler [05:00] i have CGG [05:00] im not sure [05:00] if its the same or not [05:00] it is [05:01] tnx : ) [12:42] helo all [12:43] I am a linux newbe with a laptop problem [12:43] any one available to help me [12:43] fayez: at work :( -- hang around [12:44] fayez: someone'll be here [12:44] fayez, yes c'mon [12:44] helo there mohan [12:44] here goes my problem [12:44] hey fayez, what is the issue? [12:45] I have a hp laptop elitebook 2530 running ubuntu 10.4 LTS\ [12:45] okay [12:45] after the last update [12:45]