[01:36] <bbordwell> What is with all the BUG: scheduling while atomic bugs?
[01:39] <penguin42> kernel bug somewhere
[01:40] <bbordwell> should they all be marked as duplicates?
[01:40] <penguin42> no
[01:41] <penguin42> bbordwell: I don't think kernel bugs get merged unless someone who is familiar with the exact problem knows it's not related to a bunch of different pieces of hardware
[01:42] <penguin42> bbordwell: A bunch of them seem to be related to wifi
[01:44] <bbordwell> penguin42, I think this is the problem: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16588
[01:44] <ubot2> bugzilla.kernel.org bug 16588 in Other "Regression introduced in 2.6.35.2 causes freezing, crashing, oopsing" [Normal,Resolved: code_fix]
[01:45] <bbordwell> ahh that was a dup here: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16589
[01:45] <ubot2> bugzilla.kernel.org bug 16589 in Scheduler "BUG: scheduling while atomic: udevd/960/0x10000001" [High,New]
[01:47] <penguin42> bbordwell: It looks like it's still being worked on there; it looks to me like it's the fix for the X exploit
[01:48] <bbordwell> ya it was
[01:48] <bbordwell> linux patched it himself nice
[01:48] <bbordwell> oops linux/linus
[01:50] <penguin42> anyway, yet another case where X really shouldn't be running as root
[01:50] <bbordwell> penguin42, The fix for that exploit is in the new lucid kernel as well right?
[01:50] <penguin42> I don't know; I've not been following Lucid
[01:51]  * penguin42 goes to bed
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[06:28] <ansgar> Hi, I have a question about the first response from <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Fixed in Development release while still existing in a previous release>
[06:29] <ansgar> Does Ubuntu really require the bug submitter to find out how the bug was fixed and to prepare a patch when asking for a bug to be fixed in a stable release as well?
[06:29] <micahg> ansgar: someone has to do it
[06:30] <micahg> ansgar: so the idea is if the person wants it, they can do the steps
[06:32] <ansgar> Well, if they are able to.  But I am fine with that, I just don't want to prepare an upload for old releases myself (I only use Debian myself).
[06:33] <micahg> ansgar: that's the idea, the person might have already migrated off the release and no longer care
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[09:06] <jibel> nigelb, Hey, I cannot reproduce the bug 533369 in lucid (but was able in karmic). How did you reproduce it or could you confirm that the version in -proposed fixes the issue ?
[09:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 533369 in debootstrap (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 2 other projects) "Fails to debootstrap squeeze chroot due to missing apt-get (affects: 1) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533369
[09:14] <nigelb> jibel: can you give me a few hours?
[09:14] <nigelb> I ran karmic on my system and I can test it in the evening.
[09:15] <jibel> nigelb, no emergency, I was just wondering if you were able to reproduce it in lucid because I'm not. In karmic I can reproduce and the fix is fine.
[09:16] <jibel> nigelb, just add a comment on the report if you can test the fix in lucid-proposed. Thank you.
[09:16] <nigelb> jibel: oh, wait, you want me to reproduce in lucid.
[09:16] <jibel> nigelb, yes, that would be great
[09:17] <nigelb> jibel: I'm on lucid now.  Let me test it.
[09:25] <njin> hellofolks
[09:25] <njin> can someone help with this ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/432024
[09:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 432024 in ubuntu "Keyboard layout initialization (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New]
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[10:40] <trinikrono> wow goodjob on the hugday, you totally nailed it lol
[10:41] <trinikrono> *hugs for everybody
[12:38] <hggdh> <yawn/>
[12:39] <penguin42> <yawn>
[12:39] <penguin42> mornin hggdh
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[12:57] <hggdh> morn penguin42
[13:08] <nigelb> hggdh: TGIF :D
[13:21] <hggdh> nigelb: heh
[13:21] <nigelb> hggdh: And yes, in 40 more minutes, I'll be out partying :D
[13:23] <hggdh> :-)
[13:24] <hggdh> in 40 more minutes I will still be working
[13:38] <abhijit> hi
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[14:05] <stanley_robertso> h iall
[14:10] <zeroseven0183> Is it OK to advertise here?
[14:10] <zeroseven0183> I mean, advertise open source?
[14:14] <kklimonda> zeroseven0183: no, this channel is for triaging bugs
[14:15] <zeroseven0183> Ok. I was thinking of promoting Firefox beta
[14:16] <zeroseven0183> ...ooopppsss anyway, I just did
[14:17] <devildante> pedro_: here?
[14:17] <pedro_> devildante, yeah
[14:18] <pedro_> morning kamusin
[14:18] <devildante> pedro_: you should write on the QA blog about the bug day results, just like you did after operation cleansweep bug day ;)
[14:19] <pedro_> devildante, yeap that's on my todo tasks for today ;-)
[14:19] <devildante> pedro_: thank you :) we need more publicity :p
[14:20] <pedro_> you're welcome, I'll let you guys know as soon as i send the post
[14:20] <pedro_> so you can twitt, digg, send it to identi.ca etc
[14:20] <pedro_> the more buzz the better ;-)
[14:22] <kamusin> morning pedro_ , devildante
[14:22] <devildante> hi kamusin :)
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[15:34] <pedro_> devildante, http://blogs.gnome.org/pvillavi/2010/08/20/banshee-bug-day-rocked-the-house-show-me-some-green-fields/
[15:35] <pedro_> devildante, somehow the qa blog doesn't allow me to add images so blogged it there, which is added to the planet ubuntu as well
[15:35] <devildante> pedro_: thank you ;)
[15:36] <pedro_> devildante, thank *you* for the hard work ;-)
[15:36] <pedro_> can't wait for next week bug day :-)
[15:36] <devildante> pedro_: np ;)
[15:36] <pedro_> i'm sure its going to be great
[15:38] <devildante> pedro_: yeah :) and thank you for the 50+ bugs you triaged :)
[15:40] <pedro_> i enjoy so much to work with you guys that i can't resist to squash some bugs ;-)
[15:40] <pedro_> morning fabio
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[16:27] <ashams> hello all
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[17:29] <simar> ashams ???
[17:50] <stanley_robertso> hi all
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[18:17] <simar> stanley_robertso: hi
[18:17] <simar> stanley_robertso: have you got my email?
[18:18] <simar> stanley_robertso: I'm you mentor for bugsquad..
[18:27] <njin> pedro_: arounnd ?
[18:35] <simar> stanley_robertso: there?
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[18:44] <simar> stanley_robertso: are you there??
[18:47] <njin> pedro_: launch ?
[18:47] <vish> thekorn: hehe , you retraced that unity-applications bug yourself :)
[18:47] <vish> thekorn: i have a similar bug waiting for retracers :s
[18:47] <vish> it seems a dup btw..
[18:48] <thekorn> vish: yes, do you know if the retracer are running at all?
[18:49] <vish> thekorn: they seem stuck , seb128 was looking at them yesterday i think, but he has been swamped/overloaded with all stuff ;)
[18:49] <thekorn> vish:as always ;)
[18:49] <seb128> vish, thekorn: they are broken by a launchpad bug
[18:50] <vish> bad launchpad!
[18:50] <kblin> hi folks
[18:50] <seb128> the launchpadlib api breaks while trying to download a file in a private bug now
[18:50] <kblin> if I bump into a broken dependency (-dev package not matching the library package), which package do I file the bug against?
[18:51] <thekorn> seb128: oh? apport-retracer works fine when I run it locally (on maverick)
[18:53] <Pici> kblin: Presumably, they both have the same source package, which is how lp separates packages out, so file it against that.
[18:53] <Pici> Or I'm misunderstanding the question.
[18:54] <kblin> Pici: dunno, the source package I can get with apt-get source is a completely different version as well
[18:55] <Pici> kblin: What packages are we talking about?
[18:55] <kblin> libgoogle-perftools0 and libgoogle-perftools-dev
[18:56] <kblin> libgoogle-perftools0 claims version 0.8-5.1, libgoogle-perftools-dev claims version 0.98-1ubuntu1
[18:56] <Pici> kblin: Which version of Ubuntu?
[18:57] <kblin> maverick, updated today
[18:57] <kblin> I just did a dpkg-buildpackage on the source tree "apt-get source google-perftools" gave me, and those packages claim version 1.5-1
[18:58] <kblin> I don't care much either way, that's just a dep I need to build ceph packages, just wanted to report the broken packages
[19:05] <Pici> kblin: Sorry, I got distracted.  I'd file it against google-perftools and explain the issue.
[19:05] <kblin> ok
[19:06] <kblin> "Package google-perftools does not exist" :)
[19:07] <hggdh> kblin: libgoogle-perftools0 is an older package, -perftools-dev is build against the current one in maverick (google-perftools)
[19:08] <hggdh> and google-perftools did not make it yet in the archives... hum
[19:09] <kblin> well, whatever. I'm trying to build a package that depends on -perfools-dev and that won't install :)
[19:09] <kblin> and launchpad won't let me file a bug against the source package
[19:13] <kblin> and of course I can't file it against the package I just built myself, because that's not an official ubuntu package
[19:13] <kblin> the bug report will have to wait until my other build is finished then
[19:17] <yofel> well, that's interesting too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/481074/ amd64 and i386 have different versions o.O?
[19:18] <hggdh> yofel: perftools0 is still at 0.98, but perftools-dev is at 1.5-1. perftools 1.5-1 also depends on pertools0
[19:19] <hggdh> but perftools did not make it in the archives yet (for whatever reason)
[19:19] <vish> when was paste.ubuntu updated? it looks awesome now!
[19:20] <hggdh> kblin: you can directly download perftools from https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/amd64/google-perftools/1.5-1
[19:20] <hggdh> (for amd64)
[19:20] <Pici> vish: huh? paste.u.c looks the same that it always has to me.
[19:20] <kblin> hggdh: I've already built it myself
[19:20] <vish> Pici: new theme
[19:20] <micahg> hggdh: it's in maverick
[19:20] <vish> previously it was the drab brown..
[19:22] <hggdh> micahg: yes, it made it there in the last 15 minutes or so
[19:26] <kblin> ah, so if I update, it should work?
[19:27] <micahg> hggdh: maybe went through new
[19:28]  * micahg goes back to not paying attention
[19:29]  * hggdh does the same
[19:38] <kblin> thanks folks
[19:41] <shmengie> hello
[19:42] <penguin42> hi
[19:46] <shmengie> can you tell me?
[19:46] <chilicuil> I'm trying to upload a new debdiff to the bug #462193 , however my diff (http://pastebin.com/dHLELxfE ) looks different to one uploaded by the last person ( http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52823113/lp462193.debdiff ) , since it's a dumb change I'd not like to upload the wrong diff, I've make it with $ bzr diff --old ../previous_copy, do you think is it ok?
[19:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 462193 in djvulibre (Debian) (and 3 other projects) "djvulibre-bin produces garbage in the root (/man1/*) (affects: 18) (dups: 2) (heat: 109)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/462193
[19:46] <shmengie> how do you go about refreshing a package eg. rdesktop
[19:48] <shmengie> stock ubuntu rdesktop has keyboard issues
[19:48] <shmengie> rdesktop.sourceforge.net does not have the same issues.
[19:48] <hggdh> shmengie: have you opened a bug against it?
[19:49] <shmengie> What do I need to do to get the stock version of rdesktop.sourceforge.net embedded into ubuntu?
[19:49] <shmengie> Once, I think...
[19:49] <hggdh> once, when?
[19:51] <shmengie> http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1915955.html
[19:52] <shmengie> I have users and myself, that find this very frustrating
[19:52] <hggdh> ok, so this is bug 494311
[19:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 494311 in rdesktop (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu patch for rdesktop breaks keyboard handling. (affects: 1) (heat: 13)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494311
[19:53] <shmengie> I"ve built rdesktop a few times to avoid the issue...
[19:53] <shmengie> I would really like for rdesktop not to suffer
[19:53] <shmengie> or users that require it
[19:53] <shmengie> Ubuntu is wonderful, but this makes office implementation difficult.
[19:54] <shmengie> Everytime a win station gets infected, I choose ubuntu when possible.
[19:55] <hggdh> brb
[19:55] <shmengie> ok, sorry, don't mean to sound angry, just venting a little frustration.
[19:55] <shmengie> I want to do whatever I need to, to get rdesktop fixed in Ubuntu
[20:20] <yofel> chilicuil: not sure, usually we define the output of the 'debdiff' application as a debdiff (diff between two packages), if you're already using bzr, why not file a merge against the ubuntu package?
[20:21] <yofel> but it seems like your diff was accepted anyway
[20:21] <chilicuil> yofel: yep, but I had to rebuild the debdiff using $ debdiff
[20:22] <chilicuil> yofel: I've tried to merge some other patches, I just had that question
[20:24] <yofel> ah, well, your debdiff looks ok, the other diff wanted to add a few misc:Depends that were missing  too
[20:26] <chilicuil> yofel: ok, then I'll think I can use bzr diffs when needed, thx a lot! =)
[20:28] <hggdh> shmengie: yes, rdesktop needs some love
[20:29] <shmengie> How can I give it some luv?
[20:31] <bcurtiswx> is this appropriate discussion?? :P
[20:32] <hggdh> shmengie: directly affecting you: finding out which patch is the culprit in your case, and what this patch intends to do
[20:33] <hggdh> shmengie: generically -- looking at the bugs for rdesktop, triaging them, checking upstream
[20:34] <hggdh> shmengie: on the other hand, the project at SF seems to be dead
[20:40] <shmengie> The project at sourceforge has had very few changes.  But the keyboard support works much better in the stock.  What I don't know is what other packages would be affected by reverting to stock flavor.
[20:40] <shmengie> Which is, I suppose why it's been in need of luv.
[20:41] <MichealH> Anyone avalible to triage?
[20:41] <shmengie> But this has gone on long enough.  The Ubuntu version is not usable by anyone who needs Capslock and the Keybad.
[20:41] <shmengie> err..  Numberpad
[20:43] <hggdh> shmengie: it has been going long, indeed. But we need help. I, for example, do not have time to look at it
[20:43] <hggdh> (but then I do not use it anyway)
[20:44] <hggdh> MichealH: what do you mean?
[20:44] <shmengie> That's why I asked what can I do.
[20:44] <MichealH> Is anyone avalible to triage a bug?
[20:44] <shmengie> You gave me some hints, thatks.
[20:44] <MichealH> hggdh: ^^
[20:45] <hggdh> MichealH: we are all here to help.
[20:46] <MichealH> hggdh: Can you please triage Bug 619981
[20:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 619981 in banshee (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Banshee crashed while sitting idle on omap4 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619981
[20:46] <MichealH> I beleive it has the necessary information
[20:47] <MichealH> (having looked at the log)
[20:47] <MichealH> It seemes he has it on some sort of shuffle :/
[20:49] <MichealH> hggdh: ping
[20:50] <jpds> MichealH: You pinged him like 5 minutes ago. ;)
[20:51] <MichealH> Umm... Yes?
[20:52] <micahg> !patience is a virtue :)
[20:52] <micahg> oh, that did the wrong thing...
[20:52] <micahg> !patience
[20:52] <ubot2> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://ubuntu.stackexchange.com
[20:53] <micahg> jpds: how do I undo a factoid change request?
[20:53] <Pici> micahg: don't worry about the request notice, it'll be ignored.
[20:53] <micahg> Pici: good :)
[20:53] <micahg> thanks
[20:53] <Pici> Just like all our other factoid requests, mwhahaha.
[20:53] <MichealH> micahg: But Im not looking for triages not support :(
[20:53] <nigelb> Pici: haha
[20:53] <hggdh> MichealH: did you try to reproduce?
[20:53] <micahg> MichealH: you're still asking for help, give people a few minutes :)
[20:54] <MichealH> hggdh: I dont use Banshee
[20:54] <nigelb> Pici: but, micahg and I have changed factoids
[20:54] <nigelb> :D
[20:54] <hggdh> MichealH: so *what* did you do to confirm it?
[20:54] <MichealH> mggThere is enough infor for a developer to look at
[20:54] <MichealH> hggdh: ^^
[20:54] <hggdh> I do not think so. I am not even sure if the exceptions reported caused banshee to end
[20:54] <MichealH> I TabFaile'd
[20:55] <MichealH> But wont the devs pick that up?
[20:55] <MichealH> If its true.
[20:56] <hggdh> they might. They might just return it if it is *not* true. But the point is I am not sure why it failed.
[20:57] <hggdh> ogra: why did you mark bug 619981 confirmed? Do you also experience it?
[20:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 619981 in banshee (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Banshee crashed while sitting idle on omap4 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619981
[20:59] <MichealH> hggdh: It was me wasnt it?
[21:03] <hggdh> oh yes, ogra milestoned it
[21:04]  * MichealH hides
[21:04]  * MichealH avoids all the tomatos being thrown at him
[21:05] <hggdh> MichealH: anyway, you would have to be running Maverick to test
[21:05]  * hggdh goes on to install banshee
[21:07] <MichealH> hggdh: So you are trying to replicate?
[21:07] <hggdh> MichealH: yes
[21:22] <sense> good afternoon everyone!
[21:23] <yofel> hey sense°
[21:23] <yofel> er.. sense!
[21:23] <sense> hey yofel!
[21:24] <hggdh> MichealH: cannot reproduce...
[21:24] <MichealH> :/
[21:24] <hggdh> sense: long time, sir
[21:25] <hggdh> MichealH: this does not mean there is not a problem -- but I would like the OP to check on the errors in the debug log
[21:25] <sense> hggdh: Hey! Just came back from holiday.
[21:25] <hggdh> oh, this is why, I had a feeling you had not been online for a while :-)
[21:25] <nigelb> hggdh: he had announced his holiday
[21:26] <hggdh> nigelb: this would require me to really pay attention on this channel ;-)
[21:26] <nigelb> hggdh: or the planet
[21:26] <hggdh> :-)
[21:27] <nigelb> or to twitter
[21:27] <nigelb> or identi.ca
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[21:28] <sense> OMG! Pedro blogged!
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[22:08] <hggdh> nigelb: I do not follow (or have accounts) on indenti.ca, twitter, facebook, or other similar places...
[22:08] <nigelb> hggdh: In that case, we should kick you for not following planet :p
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[22:51] <nigelb> vish: poke me when you're awake.  Need your help with something :)
[23:41] <devildante> nigelb: vish is always asleep, talking by experience (though this experience was during 3 AM, so I'm not the best example :p)