| RainCT | canesin: What makes it a bit more complicated right now is that Maverick is in "Feature Freeze", which means no new stuff is allowed in. If there is a good reason to have this new paraview version, you can file a bug and explain why it'd be good to have and how risky it might break as opposed to the current version (this is called a Feature Freeze Exception request) | 00:00 |
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| * zooko reads about backports | 00:07 | |
| zooko | Neat. | 00:08 |
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| micahg | bdrung: did I read somewhere about a new vlc PPA? | 01:11 |
| bdrung | micahg: not on my blog, but i have setup one | 01:12 |
| micahg | bdrung: stable releases? | 01:12 |
| bdrung | micahg: nope, bleeding edge (1.2.0~git) | 01:12 |
| micahg | bdrung: :(, any chance of a stable PPA? | 01:13 |
| micahg | or should I backport on my own? | 01:13 |
| bdrung | micahg: https://edge.launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/master-daily | 01:13 |
| bdrung | micahg: you can ask me nicely when i am back from my vacation and i will setup one | 01:14 |
| micahg | bdrung: I can help maintain if you want :) | 01:14 |
| bdrung | micahg: if you want to build your own one locally, grab the maverick git branch and use this patch: http://pastebin.com/E4eb2CSE | 01:16 |
| micahg | bdrung: is that for Lucid or maverick | 01:18 |
| bdrung | micahg: that is for lucid | 01:19 |
| micahg | bdrung: k, thanks | 01:19 |
| bdrung | micahg: for maverick you can just use the maverick branch :) | 01:19 |
| bdrung | micahg: but instead of a vlc ppa, we could backport vlc 1.1.3-1+exp1ubuntu1 with the posted patch | 01:19 |
| micahg | bdrung: do you want to backport for every release? | 01:20 |
| bdrung | micahg: no, for lucid | 01:20 |
| micahg | bdrung: I meant for Lucid for every release :) | 01:20 |
| bdrung | micahg: if it's not too much work. | 01:20 |
| bdrung | micahg: at least one backport would be nice (look at the 1.1.0-1 changelog) | 01:21 |
| micahg | bdrung: I'm not in a position to join backporters yet, but you could :) | 01:21 |
| bdrung | micahg: i want to try to backport something. for self consumption i have a backports PPA: https://launchpad.net/~bdrung/+archive/backports | 01:24 |
| micahg | bdrung: I have one as well :) | 01:24 |
| micahg | bdrung: the only problem with sending vlc to backports is to keep it updated if there's a security vulnerability | 01:25 |
| bdrung | micahg: if we backport the same version that will end up in maverick the workload will not be increased that much | 01:26 |
| micahg | bdrung: well, I think with backports, tis better to update than patch, but I could be wrong | 01:27 |
| micahg | can we even patch stuff in backports? | 01:27 |
| bdrung | micahg: dunno. backporting the fixed version is probably the way to go | 01:28 |
| micahg | bdrung: are you waiting to see if you can sync from expermental before uploading to maverick? | 01:30 |
| micahg | bdrung: nm, I remember the issue now | 01:30 |
| bdrung | micahg: i am waiting for siretart to upload the packages to sid and experimental | 01:31 |
| micahg | bdrung: ah, ok | 01:31 |
| bdrung | micahg: then i will upload the package to maverick | 01:31 |
| bdrung | micahg: i will sync the experimental package once x264 is accepted in debian | 01:32 |
| bdrung | micahg: if this needs as long as mplayer, it will be in one year ;) | 01:32 |
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| bdrung | micahg: time to say goodbye. i will be on vacation tomorrow | 02:06 |
| micahg | bdrung: enjoy your vacation, anything I can keep an eye on for you while you're goine? | 02:06 |
| bdrung | micahg: the sponsor queue :) | 02:07 |
| micahg | bdrung: I can't do much with it, but I'll watch my stuff :) | 02:07 |
| bdrung | micahg: everything that is listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BenjaminDrung | 02:07 |
| micahg | bdrung: vlc's the only think I can do anything with | 02:07 |
| micahg | oh, eclipse too | 02:07 |
| bdrung | micahg: you could talk with nthykier on #debian-java - we need to sync -6 (once released). and there are new reports that it doesn't work | 02:08 |
| micahg | bdrung: k, what tz is he in? | 02:09 |
| bdrung | micahg: mine - utc + 0200 | 02:10 |
| micahg | bdrung: will try him in the morning then | 02:11 |
| bdrung | micahg: he lives in Denmark | 02:11 |
| micahg | bdrung: k, well, enjoy, I'll keep an eye on vlc and eclipse then, if siretart doesn't get to it until tomorrow, can I assume you're gone and do the merge? Do we need an FFe? | 02:13 |
| bdrung | micahg: i probably check my mails in between. otherwise i will have ~2000 mail when i come home | 02:13 |
| micahg | nm, you did the merge, I mean upload :) | 02:13 |
| micahg | bdrung: k, I won't worry about that one then | 02:13 |
| micahg | but will try to get 3.5.2-6 for eclipse in | 02:14 |
| bdrung | micahg: if i am gone, you can ask siretart to do the maverick upload (it's prepared in the maverick branch) | 02:14 |
| bdrung | micahg: i talked with the release team. we don't need a FFe for vlc | 02:15 |
| micahg | bdrung: k, you know I have upload rights for it, right? | 02:15 |
| bdrung | micahg: have you access to the git repository? | 02:15 |
| micahg | bdrung: pkg-multimedia? | 02:16 |
| bdrung | micahg: yes | 02:16 |
| micahg | bdrung: yes, I'm a junior dev | 02:16 |
| bdrung | micahg: k, then you could do it, too | 02:18 |
| micahg | bdrung: k, if I have any questions, I'll ask siretart | 02:19 |
| bdrung | yes | 02:19 |
| micahg | bdrung: I"ll be back in about an hour, you can always send email to my nick at ubuntu dot com if you need something | 02:26 |
| micahg | bdrung: once again, enjoy your vacation :) | 02:26 |
| lfaraone | How can I figure out why a package that was in Lucid and is in Sid is not in maverick? searching for "packagename remove from maverick" does not give me antyhing usesul. | 03:11 |
| lfaraone | *anything useful | 03:11 |
| bdrung | lfaraone: which package? | 03:15 |
| lfaraone | bdrung: libunicode-map8-perl-dfsg was formally in main. | 03:15 |
| lfaraone | bdrung: now it's not shipped. libunicode-map8-perl (which is in sid) was in dapper but no other release after that. | 03:16 |
| bdrung | lfaraone: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libunicode-map8-perl-dfsg/+publishinghistory | 03:16 |
| bdrung | (From Debian) [auto-cruft] obsolete source package | 03:16 |
| lfaraone | makes sense, there's no libunicode-map8-perl-dfsg in debian, because it's libunicode-map8-perl. But libunicode-map8-perl isn't there either <_<; | 03:16 |
| bdrung | lfaraone: then request a sync of libunicode-map8-perl and provide all information for a FFe | 03:17 |
| lfaraone | bdrung: working on it. | 03:18 |
| bdrung | good night | 03:18 |
| lfaraone | bdrung: thanks | 03:18 |
| bdrung | you're welcome | 03:18 |
| LucidFox | I wonder if it's possible to have the same package version in Debian and Ubuntu while building with indicator libraries only on Ubuntu | 05:00 |
| LucidFox | Something like, Build-Depends: libappindicator-dev | not-ubuntu | 05:01 |
| micahg | LucidFox: worth a simple delta | 05:05 |
| LucidFox | micahg> Even when I'm the maintainer in both? -_- | 05:07 |
| micahg | LucidFox: yes :), unless there's already a convention for what you're proposing :) | 05:08 |
| micahg | LucidFox: maybe ask in #debian-ubuntu | 05:08 |
| wgrant | Or push indicators into Debian :) | 05:15 |
| wgrant | Although I get the feeling that anybody trying that would not survive for long. | 05:15 |
| * micahg thinks someone was working on that | 05:15 | |
| micahg | wgrant: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/06/msg00293.html | 05:16 |
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| nigelb | LucidFox: might want to talk to kartik and evgeni @ debian end of things | 05:50 |
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| Zhenech | lucidfox, huh? (I'm evgeni) | 07:36 |
| lucidfox | Zhenech> Well, I just had an idea, to avoid introducing deltas, to have the same source package build with Ubuntu-specific libraries under Ubuntu and without them under Debian | 07:41 |
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| Zhenech | lucidfox, from what I've observed, the deltas are usually only the thing that ubuntu ships the packages as -0ubuntu1 earlier as we ship the -1 | 07:42 |
| lucidfox | Zhenech> Erm | 07:43 |
| Zhenech | from the packaging point of view the deltas are zero | 07:43 |
| micahg | Zhenech: depends on the package | 07:43 |
| lucidfox | Thing is, suppose I'm the maintainer of a package in both Debian and Ubuntu, and I want -1 sync as is from Debian, but build with indicator libraries | 07:43 |
| Zhenech | debian has indicator libraries | 07:43 |
| Zhenech | so you could build on both systems with indicator? | 07:44 |
| Zhenech | (or is it something that needs your patched gtk to work with?) | 07:44 |
| lucidfox | libindicate, yes, libappindicator, no | 07:44 |
| Zhenech | ah, gimme a sec | 07:45 |
| Zhenech | do you mean https://launchpad.net/indicator-application ? | 07:45 |
| lucidfox | yep | 07:46 |
| lucidfox | Well, I suppose I could cheat and write something like libappindicator-dev | build-essential | 07:46 |
| Zhenech | thats ugly :) | 07:46 |
| lucidfox | to make it, essentially, a "soft build-dependency" | 07:46 |
| Zhenech | mh, maybe we should just pull appindicator to debian :) | 07:47 |
| micahg | Zhenech: there was a thread on debian devel a couple months ago about it | 07:48 |
| Zhenech | i added it to our wiki page as to be worked on :) | 07:49 |
| micahg | dholbach: good morning | 07:51 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:51 |
| dholbach | hi micahg | 07:52 |
| micahg | dholbach: is there anywhere to track the progress of the new harvest? | 07:52 |
| dholbach | micahg, "bzr branch lp:harvest; less harvest/INSTALL" I'm afraid | 07:52 |
| micahg | dholbach: oh, is there a working copy up somewhere? can I set up my own copy somewhere? | 07:53 |
| dholbach | we want to fix https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/harvest/+bugs?field.importance=Critical and then get it deployed | 07:53 |
| micahg | dholbach: ooh, so soon? | 07:54 |
| dholbach | the new harvest has been in the making for quite lon | 07:54 |
| dholbach | g | 07:54 |
| dholbach | we can always get up new improvements later on | 07:54 |
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| Zhenech | trying to build indicator-application | 08:07 |
| Zhenech | Couldn't find include 'Gtk-2.0.gir' (search path: ['.', '/usr/share/gir-1.0', '/usr/share/gir-1.0', '/usr/share/gir-1.0']) | 08:10 |
| Zhenech | meh | 08:10 |
| Zhenech | gtk gir is in gir-repository-dev in debian | 08:12 |
| Zhenech | ok it at least built | 08:15 |
| and471 | if I file a merge request for a package in ubuntu, do I subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to the bug report, or set ubuntu-sponsors as the reviewer of the merge request? | 08:44 |
| geser | I'd do both (if a bug exists but don't file a new one) | 08:45 |
| and471 | ok | 08:45 |
| and471 | vish, looks like geser agrees with you :) | 08:45 |
| vish | :) | 08:46 |
| vish | and471: iirc, only the bugs show-up in the sponsors list.. | 08:46 |
| geser | vish: depends on which list you look: only the bug gets shown on LP but both get listed on http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ | 08:49 |
| vish | geser: ah, neat..! that list is what is in the topic.. hence i had told him to do both :) | 08:50 |
| vish | wasnt sure which they might look at.. | 08:50 |
| geser | probably depends on each sponsor | 08:51 |
| AnAnt | Hello | 08:58 |
| bilalakhtar | geser: but, for branch merges, I have always been told to set reviewer but never sponsor. | 08:59 |
| bilalakhtar | sorry | 09:00 |
| bilalakhtar | I have always been told to set reviewer but never subscribe to bugs | 09:00 |
| bilalakhtar | in case of branch merges ^^ | 09:00 |
| geser | have you been told any reason? | 09:00 |
| geser | perhaps it changed in the last couple of months, but when I did my last branch merging, I also subscribed the sponsors team to the bug because of the poor visibility of merge requests at that time | 09:02 |
| vish | i dont see why doing both is gonna harm though.. | 09:03 |
| vish | if some one reviews the bug they'd also be checking the merge of the list | 09:03 |
| vish | s/reviews/sponsors | 09:03 |
| geser | I wouldn't file a new bug but if a bug already exists, I see no reason why not subscribe the sponsors | 09:03 |
| vish | yeah , not a new bug | 09:03 |
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| coolbhavi | geser, another thing after a sync request some update will be there say a ftbfs fix and I test that bug and update saying that this is a ftbfs fix for the present version reported in the sync will a sync always be uploaded in the original reporters name? | 09:06 |
| geser | I'm not sure | 09:09 |
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| bilalakhtar | Rhonda: I forgot to ping you yesterday! | 11:35 |
| Rhonda | Oh, right! | 11:35 |
| bilalakhtar | Rhonda: np, give me another time to ping! | 11:36 |
| Rhonda | Will be offline the next week? :) | 11:42 |
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| AnAnt | Hello | 14:14 |
| canesin | Hi all | 14:26 |
| canesin | =) .. here I'm again.. | 14:26 |
| AnAnt | Hello | 14:26 |
| canesin | I have run the: grab-merge command and get : | 14:27 |
| canesin | *** WARNING *** | 14:27 |
| canesin | It looks like this package is maintained in revision control: | 14:28 |
| canesin | than i trow some git and svn adress | 14:28 |
| canesin | You almost certainly don't want to continue without investigating. | 14:28 |
| canesin | ??? | 14:29 |
| canesin | Can some one help to merge that package ?? it is paraview.. | 14:29 |
| tumbleweed | canesin: you *probably* don't need to worry about it. Many Debian Developers maintain their packages in version control systems, and ubuntu packages we've forked can be maintained in bzr branches on lp | 14:33 |
| canesin | tumbleweed: okay.. so I want to merge that package .. what should I do now ?? | 14:35 |
| canesin | tumbleweed: I have run the grab-merge tool... | 14:35 |
| tumbleweed | canesin: if the Vcs URLs mentioned are *.debian.org you can ignore it (esp if it's a universe package) | 14:36 |
| canesin | tumbleweed: they are .debian.org | 14:37 |
| canesin | tumbleweed: so what now ?? | 14:37 |
| tumbleweed | canesin: carry on with the merge | 14:37 |
| tumbleweed | canesin: you are aware that we are in feature freeze? (and so you'll need a freeze exception for merges that aren't purely for bug fixes) | 14:38 |
| canesin | tumbleweed: this is a major scientific application.. it is in 3.8.1 in Debian unstable.. and in years old 3.4.0 in Ubuntu | 14:39 |
| canesin | tumbleweed: to be true.. I believe all changes in the ubuntu one do not apply anymore to the current version | 14:39 |
| tumbleweed | you'll probably get your exception then, but you still need to file for it in your merge bug https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess | 14:39 |
| tumbleweed | yes, your merge should be for maverick. If a newever version is necessary in lucid too, follow the backporting process (once it's in maverick) | 14:40 |
| canesin | I have to wait for maverick launch ?? | 14:41 |
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| tumbleweed | canesin: no, you have to merge the new version of whatever this is into maverick, then you can get it backported to lucid (if it's needed there too) | 14:47 |
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| AnAnt | Hello | 15:18 |
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| * fabrice_sp has just seen that p.u.c knows about maverick packages now! Hurrahhh | 17:14 | |
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| ari-tczew | packages.ubuntu.com fixed \o/ | 18:22 |
| ChogyDan | ari-tczew: yay! | 18:23 |
| ari-tczew | it's a pity, that scarcely now. I always use packages.ubuntu.com during stricte development cycle (till FeatureFreeze) | 18:26 |
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| micahg | siretart: since bdrung is afk, I was going to try to update vlc this weekend in maverick, he finished everything in the git repo, but I have to reversion it since you changed the upload to experimental to be -2, will you be around this weekend at all if I run into any issues? | 21:02 |
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| micahg | sistpoty: sorry thunderbird took so long, I was sick half the week | 22:34 |
| sistpoty | micahg: no worries (I mainly wanted it to not being dragged after beta), and big thanks for working on it! | 22:35 |
| micahg | sistpoty: np, do you need any help with release stuff for mozilla related apps this time around? | 22:35 |
| sistpoty | micahg: looks like noone cared about delegates yet :/ | 22:36 |
| sistpoty | micahg: however if there's mozilla releated stuff to approve, I assume you'll offer to help, right? | 22:36 |
| micahg | sistpoty: I still want to try to get a few packages updated before beta if I can | 22:36 |
| micahg | sistpoty: sure, I'm a dev this time around as well :) | 22:37 |
| sistpoty | micahg: great, thanks! | 22:37 |
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