era | yo. when is the jaegertrace merger planned for the 4.0 builds? | 00:47 |
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micahg | era: sept 1 , but I haven't checked this weeks meeting notes yet | 00:55 |
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era | micahg, will the arewefastyet score skyrocket? | 01:04 |
micahg | era: idk what that is | 01:05 |
era | http://arewefastyet.com/ | 01:05 |
* micahg is still using 3.6 until the beta PPA is ready | 01:05 | |
micahg | era: idk | 01:06 |
Dimmuxx | hmm about the 32bit oopp flash in 64bit https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559142 | 01:41 |
ubot2 | Mozilla bug 559142 in Plug-ins "64-bit Firefox for Mac OS X can't use 32-bit plugins" [Normal,New] | 01:41 |
micahg | Dimmuxx: chrisccoulson said he'd work on that | 01:49 |
Dimmuxx | yeah I was here :) | 01:49 |
Dimmuxx | I just happend to find that ticket when I was looking for something else | 01:50 |
micahg | Dimmuxx: beta PPA will have to wait until chrisccoulson fixes up FF4 build | 01:50 |
Dimmuxx | yes he said something about some bug | 01:51 |
micahg | Dimmuxx: well, there's the omnijar issue | 01:51 |
Dimmuxx | ah that's the one he mentioned | 01:52 |
Dimmuxx | it seems to be worth waiting for | 01:54 |
era | don't we already have a 4.0 ppa? | 02:16 |
era | <__< | 02:16 |
era | the daily is good enough | 02:17 |
micahg | era: no, first was all in one build which chrisccoulson fixed, now omnijar which he's working on | 02:17 |
era | omnijar? | 02:18 |
micahg | era: some people like stability in their browser so the milestone betas are more appropriate <-- I'm in this group | 02:18 |
micahg | era: all the branding and .js files are in one super .jar to speed up load time | 02:18 |
era | whoa, like an xpi? | 02:18 |
micahg | idk, xpi is like a zip file | 02:19 |
micahg | asac: ping | 06:48 |
asac | micahg: ? | 07:45 |
micahg | asac: hi | 07:45 |
micahg | asac: Can I drop the TB2 migration stuff from tb.head now? | 07:46 |
micahg | since there's no migration path from TB2 to maverick | 07:46 |
micahg | the only thing would be the PPA, but there, the .mozilla-thunderbird folder will just be ignored as it probably should be | 07:47 |
asac | micahg: i would apply the same backporting reasoning i had yesterday. dont drop it from head if head might get backported to a distro that has a tb2 migration path at some point | 07:55 |
micahg | asac: well, we will be pushing 3.1 to Lucid I think probably later this year | 07:56 |
micahg | asac: the thing is, that code is messy and hackish w/the symlink and whatnot | 07:58 |
* asac on a call for 1h | 08:00 | |
* micahg thinks this should be picked up in the morning | 08:00 | |
asac | heh | 08:01 |
asac | micahg: it must be too early for you | 08:01 |
asac | go to bed ;) | 08:01 |
micahg | asac: 2AM, but I said I'd upload tonight :( | 08:01 |
micahg | asac: also enigmail is ready, but we have no branch for it in Ubuntu/maverick so I didn't do it in a vcs | 08:02 |
micahg | asac: I'm going to sleep soon, please let chrisccoulson know what happened and I'll be back in about 6.5 hrs | 08:06 |
asac | micahg: yeah. go to bed | 08:07 |
asac | ;) | 08:07 |
micahg | asac: thanks | 08:07 |
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fta | jdstrand, mdeslaur: fyi, http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/08/stable-channel-update_19.html | 09:08 |
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gnomefreak | seems tb31 daily is not working at all | 12:32 |
chrisccoulson | gnomefreak, whats wrong with it? | 12:35 |
gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: it doesnt start | 12:35 |
chrisccoulson | eeek | 12:35 |
chrisccoulson | i'm not using the daily atm, as i'm running what will be uploaded to maverick instead | 12:35 |
gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: micahg's PPA version works | 12:35 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, that's what i'm using now | 12:35 |
chrisccoulson | i'll have a look in a bit, but i'm busy trying to get ff4 builds working again | 12:36 |
gnomefreak | i dont really feel like adding each email address to it atm, still a bit early | 12:36 |
gnomefreak | thanks | 12:36 |
fta | chrisccoulson, http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/08/stable-channel-update_19.html | 12:53 |
Dimmuxx | chrisccoulson: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559142 | 13:11 |
ubot2 | Mozilla bug 559142 in Plug-ins "64-bit Firefox for Mac OS X can't use 32-bit plugins" [Normal,New] | 13:11 |
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micahg | gnomefreak: The symlink patch is missing from the maverick build | 14:54 |
micahg | I have it here locally | 14:54 |
gnomefreak | micahg: the daily? | 14:54 |
micahg | both daily and my PPA | 14:54 |
* gnomefreak on Lucid and it isnt working | 14:54 | |
micahg | hmm | 14:55 |
micahg | I updated the lucid build in my PPA with it | 14:55 |
gnomefreak | your PPA in Lucid works i just dont feel like adding 10 accounts | 14:55 |
micahg | gnomefreak: oh...but you added them to the daily? | 14:55 |
micahg | gnomefreak: I forgot about the migrator which is why I didn't upload last night | 14:55 |
gnomefreak | micahg: i had them added to daily | 14:55 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: ^^ | 14:55 |
micahg | gnomefreak: the upload to maverick will be able to migrate that/the new thunderbird.head daily will also soon | 14:56 |
gnomefreak | as long as i get to keep both profiles in tact | 14:56 |
micahg | gnomefreak: well, thunderbird in daily will be 3.1 soon | 14:57 |
micahg | but will offer to migrate the profile from tb-3.1 | 14:57 |
gnomefreak | yeah my profile is .thunderbird-3.1 where asa the PPa profile is .thunderbird | 14:57 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: around? | 15:05 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, sorry was just grabbing a bit of late lunch | 15:06 |
* gnomefreak dreams of lunch | 15:06 | |
micahg | chrisccoulson: k, np, so did you read the irc log from around 17:00 UTC | 15:07 |
micahg | oops | 15:07 |
micahg | I meant 7:00 UTC | 15:07 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - no, i've not read them | 15:07 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: k, well, he's the issue | 15:07 |
micahg | I forgot about the migrator for the TB 3.1 update | 15:07 |
micahg | I'm subsequently worked on it, but I'm not sure I chose the right path, so I didn't upload | 15:08 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: I was thinking to drop the TB2 specific code in the shell wrapper | 15:08 |
micahg | but asac suggested keeping it since we'll backport to Lucid | 15:08 |
chrisccoulson | possibly, but we don't have to backport all changes to lucid | 15:09 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: right, that's what I figured, we could not backport the shell wrapper changes or just the TB3.1 reference changes | 15:10 |
micahg | I originally did it as one commit, but I can break it out still since I didn't push yet | 15:10 |
chrisccoulson | i don't mind either way really. i probably would have just dropped it from maverick | 15:13 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: glad to know I was on the right path :) | 15:14 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: k, so should I break it out to 1 change for 3.0 to 3.1 and one change to drop 2.0 stuff? | 15:15 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, that seems sensible | 15:15 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: k, how much testing do I need before uploading this? and should I still push today? | 15:16 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, i'd upload today :) | 15:17 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - did you say the maverick version was missing another change to the shell script? | 15:18 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: the beta profile migrator, that's it | 15:18 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: I'm also just changing to tb-3.0 beta pariticipation stuff to 3.1 since we dropped 3.0 6 months ago | 15:21 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: and the dailies not having an upgrade from 2.0 to 3.1 will be ok? Should make both parallel installable now since it doesn't munge the old dir anymore | 15:25 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, that should be ok. we have the same issue with firefox since we cleaned the package | 15:26 |
fta | ok, let's see if my adsl is more stable now.. | 15:26 |
chrisccoulson | (there's no upgrade path to the dailies from old releases) | 15:26 |
chrisccoulson | hi fta | 15:26 |
fta | hi | 15:27 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: k | 15:27 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: also, there's no current VCS for enigmail, am I ok with that as well | 15:30 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, that's ok | 15:32 |
micahg | so far so good with the new migrator | 15:32 |
chrisccoulson | cool | 15:32 |
chrisccoulson | this firefox stuff is a PITA | 15:32 |
chrisccoulson | even defaults/ is shipped in omni.jar, making it impossible to have system-wide preferences | 15:33 |
fta | grrr | 15:33 |
micahg | \o/ all three options work this time :) | 15:34 |
micahg | k, I'm uploading then... | 15:36 |
* micahg hopes there's no fiasco this time since the TB2 shell code is gone | 15:43 | |
chrisccoulson | excellent :) | 15:48 |
micahg | I'll upload tb-locales and enigmail in an hour, have to run out, tb is uploading now | 15:49 |
chrisccoulson | thanks | 15:50 |
chrisccoulson | jdstrand - would you mind sponsoring nss and nspr to maverick? | 15:50 |
jdstrand | chrisccoulson: ok. do you have signed source packages somewhere? | 16:49 |
chrisccoulson | jdstrand, not yet - they're just in bzr (lp:~mozillateam/nss/nss.head and lp:~mozillateam/nspr/nspr.head) | 16:50 |
jdstrand | chrisccoulson: feel free to upload to chinstrap and ping me, and I will sponsor them | 16:51 |
chrisccoulson | jdstrand, cool, thanks. i'll do that in a minute | 16:51 |
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micahg | chrisccoulson: thunderbird-locales should be native i.e. 3.1.2ubuntu1, right since there's no upstream tarball? | 17:07 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - was it native before? | 17:08 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: no, but I was told it should've been, just making sure before I upload | 17:08 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: well, it was just the versioning wasn't | 17:08 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - oh, i see. so we had native packaging before and a non-native number? | 17:09 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: yes | 17:09 |
* micahg needs to clean up lintian and standards stuff, but can do later before Final Freeze | 17:09 | |
chrisccoulson | yeah, that version number looks ok then | 17:09 |
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chrisccoulson | micahg - i added a TODO file in lp:firefox with a list of things which don't work now ;) | 17:48 |
chrisccoulson | so we don't forget.... | 17:48 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: ok :) | 17:49 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: I uploaded tb-locales and am about to upload enigmail | 17:49 |
chrisccoulson | excellent \o/ | 17:49 |
* micahg hopes all the changes are in teh changelog | 17:49 | |
micahg | here it goes | 17:50 |
* micahg has to hurry up and get ready for $WORK now :)( | 17:51 | |
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gnomefreak | damn hes not here | 18:38 |
gnomefreak | !info pidgin maverick | 18:41 |
ubot2 | gnomefreak: pidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.6.6-1ubuntu4 (maverick), package size 563 kB, installed size 1792 kB | 18:42 |
gnomefreak | we should really update that. so now more than 1 bug report | 18:42 |
gnomefreak | ok done with Pidgin bugs for today i think | 18:59 |
gnomefreak | micahg: you help with pidgin builds? | 19:04 |
micahg | gnomefreak: I backported teh last version since the devs were running behind | 19:07 |
gnomefreak | micahg: we are a bunch of releases out of date | 19:07 |
micahg | gnomefreak: huh? maverick has 2.7.3 | 19:08 |
gnomefreak | latest upstream is 2.7.3 | 19:08 |
gnomefreak | !info pidgin maverick | 19:08 |
ubot2 | gnomefreak: pidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.6.6-1ubuntu4 (maverick), package size 563 kB, installed size 1792 kB | 19:08 |
gnomefreak | ^^^ | 19:08 |
gnomefreak | is there at least a PPA? | 19:08 |
micahg | gnomefreak: try rmadison http://pastebin.com/W8ZeKb9G | 19:08 |
gnomefreak | i dopnt have a maverick box at this time | 19:09 |
micahg | gnomefreak: pidgin dev PPA is out of date | 19:09 |
gnomefreak | oh ok | 19:09 |
micahg | gnomefreak: ppa:micahg/ppa should have 2.7.3 | 19:09 |
gnomefreak | thanks ill look | 19:09 |
gnomefreak | maybe it will fix my bug but some how i doubt it | 19:15 |
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fta | chrisccoulson, i want to do my own app menu, something like the app indicator (a menu, with some actions and a status icon), where should i start? any recommendation? | 20:09 |
Dimmuxx | that's just a gtk menu more or less | 20:11 |
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micahg | chrisccoulson: pyxpcom in Debian NEW thanks to glandium :) | 22:15 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, it's not going to work for us though ;) | 22:15 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: why not? | 22:15 |
chrisccoulson | AFAICT it installs things in to components/ | 22:15 |
chrisccoulson | (which relies on a stable directory) | 22:15 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: k, I'll try to grab it over the weekend and see if we can tweak it, it would be nice if we could sync/tweak | 22:16 |
chrisccoulson | we would need to redo it and build it like an extension most likely | 22:16 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: are you willing to pull into maverick with its future unknown (FF40+) | 22:16 |
chrisccoulson | else we'll be rebuilding it every time we do a firefox update ;) | 22:17 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm not too sure about maverick just yet | 22:17 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: well, that's the issue, pyxpcom offers more interfaces than extensions provide that's why people were screaming for it and probably why upstream gave up on it | 22:17 |
chrisccoulson | i'll have a look at it in a bit | 22:19 |
chrisccoulson | i'm hoping to try and get ff4 builds working again tonight | 22:19 |
chrisccoulson | i'm really tempted to start using make package. it would mean we get a en-US xpi language pack for free | 22:21 |
chrisccoulson | which we seem to be manually creating in quite a complex way atm | 22:21 |
chrisccoulson | (which no longer works) | 22:21 |
micahg | oh, that's a plus too | 22:21 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: do you know how to pull packages from Debian NEW, glandium offered preview access to it | 22:22 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: http://people.debian.org/~glandium/pyxpcom_0.0~hg20100212-1.dsc | 22:24 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - you can use dget for that | 22:27 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: I know :), he uploaded there special for us :) | 22:27 |
chrisccoulson | oh, i thought you were asking me how to get it ;) | 22:27 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: no, I was asking if you knew how to pull from NEW :) | 22:27 |
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micahg | fta: the thunderbird umd upload will be broke tonight since I pushed 3.1 | 23:03 |
micahg | it needs a patch from the other branch to work, I'll fix sat night | 23:03 |
fta | k | 23:16 |
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chrisccoulson | hi fta. were you trying to create an app using an app-indicator, or write a whole new indicator? | 23:28 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - ff4 built \o/ | 23:28 |
fta | chrisccoulson, write a new one, i guess | 23:29 |
fta | i mean, i need a dedicated menu, like the sound one | 23:29 |
fta | i need to listen to various events | 23:30 |
chrisccoulson | fta - oh, i'm not too sure about that. i'm not sure if that's well documented or not | 23:30 |
chrisccoulson | might be worth talking to tedg ;) | 23:31 |
fta | i fetched lp:indicator-applet, seems to just be a wrapper to lots of .so | 23:31 |
Dimmuxx | libindicate-doc might be interesting for you | 23:32 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, the indicator-applet doesn't have much interesting in it. i would have a look at the individual indicators instead | 23:32 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - ff4 loads faster :) | 23:32 |
Dimmuxx | time to make the beta ppa then ;) | 23:33 |
chrisccoulson | Dimmuxx, i'm resting now ;) | 23:33 |
Dimmuxx | will it be called ubuntu-mozilla-beta btw? | 23:34 |
fta | ch 5.0.375.127~r55887 is building the stable ppa, i'd appreciate some tests before i submit it to maverick and lucid-security | 23:34 |
chrisccoulson | dear compiz, when i open an app in docky, i usually want it to appear focused :) | 23:35 |
chrisccoulson | fta - when will the build finish? | 23:35 |
fta | less than 1h | 23:35 |
chrisccoulson | i'll probably still be awake then ;) | 23:36 |
fta | but with lp, who knows for sure :P | 23:36 |
chrisccoulson | heh | 23:36 |
fta | grrr, i wanted to buy a kindle 3, but $129 of taxes for a $139 device, no way | 23:38 |
chrisccoulson | ouch! | 23:39 |
chrisccoulson | eek, the breakpad symbols for ff4.0 are 115MB ;/ | 23:43 |
fta | damn, it's available in the uk, but not in fr | 23:43 |
fta | and uk won't ship to fr :( | 23:43 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - what do you think about bug 520049? | 23:46 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 520049 in gecko-mediaplayer (Ubuntu) "general.useragent.override in firefox spontaneously switches to quicktime 7 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520049 | 23:46 |
chrisccoulson | i think it's pretty bad that a plugin changes the user agent string | 23:46 |
chrisccoulson | and then crashes | 23:46 |
chrisccoulson | so it never resets again | 23:46 |
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