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erayo. when is the jaegertrace merger planned for the 4.0 builds?00:47
micahgera: sept 1 , but I haven't checked this weeks meeting notes yet00:55
=== micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.8 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 (Now in Mozilla Daily PPA) Coming to Maverick and Stable PPA Soon | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA coming soon | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPMLv | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW
eramicahg, will the arewefastyet score skyrocket?01:04
micahgera: idk what that is01:05
erahttp://arewefastyet.com/01:05
* micahg is still using 3.6 until the beta PPA is ready01:05
micahgera: idk01:06
Dimmuxxhmm about the 32bit oopp flash in 64bit https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55914201:41
ubot2Mozilla bug 559142 in Plug-ins "64-bit Firefox for Mac OS X can't use 32-bit plugins" [Normal,New]01:41
micahgDimmuxx: chrisccoulson said he'd work on that01:49
Dimmuxxyeah I was here :)01:49
DimmuxxI just happend to find that ticket when I was looking for something else01:50
micahgDimmuxx: beta PPA will have to wait until chrisccoulson fixes up FF4 build01:50
Dimmuxxyes he said something about some bug01:51
micahgDimmuxx: well, there's the omnijar issue01:51
Dimmuxxah that's the one he mentioned01:52
Dimmuxxit seems to be worth waiting for01:54
eradon't we already have a 4.0 ppa?02:16
era<__<02:16
erathe daily is good enough02:17
micahgera: no, first was all in one build which chrisccoulson fixed, now omnijar which he's working on02:17
eraomnijar?02:18
micahgera: some people like stability in their browser so the milestone betas are more appropriate <-- I'm in this group02:18
micahgera: all the branding and .js files are in one super .jar to speed up load time02:18
erawhoa, like an xpi?02:18
micahgidk, xpi is like a zip file02:19
micahgasac: ping06:48
asacmicahg: ?07:45
micahgasac: hi07:45
micahgasac: Can I drop the TB2 migration stuff from tb.head now?07:46
micahgsince there's no migration path from TB2 to maverick07:46
micahgthe only thing would be the PPA, but there, the .mozilla-thunderbird folder will just be ignored as it probably should be07:47
asacmicahg: i would apply the same backporting reasoning i had yesterday. dont drop it from head if head might get backported to a distro that has a tb2 migration path at some point07:55
micahgasac: well, we will be pushing 3.1 to Lucid I think probably later this year07:56
micahgasac: the thing is, that code is messy and hackish w/the symlink and whatnot07:58
* asac on a call for 1h08:00
* micahg thinks this should be picked up in the morning08:00
asacheh08:01
asacmicahg: it must be too early for you08:01
asacgo to bed ;)08:01
micahgasac: 2AM, but I said I'd upload tonight :(08:01
micahgasac: also enigmail is ready, but we have no branch for it in Ubuntu/maverick so I didn't do it in a vcs08:02
micahgasac: I'm going to sleep soon, please let chrisccoulson know what happened and I'll be back in about 6.5 hrs08:06
asacmicahg: yeah. go to bed08:07
asac;)08:07
micahgasac: thanks08:07
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ftajdstrand, mdeslaur: fyi, http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/08/stable-channel-update_19.html09:08
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gnomefreakseems tb31 daily is not working at all12:32
chrisccoulsongnomefreak, whats wrong with it?12:35
gnomefreakchrisccoulson: it doesnt start12:35
chrisccoulsoneeek12:35
chrisccoulsoni'm not using the daily atm, as i'm running what will be uploaded to maverick instead12:35
gnomefreakchrisccoulson: micahg's PPA version works12:35
chrisccoulsonyeah, that's what i'm using now12:35
chrisccoulsoni'll have a look in a bit, but i'm busy trying to get ff4 builds working again12:36
gnomefreaki dont really feel like adding each email address to it atm, still a bit early12:36
gnomefreakthanks12:36
ftachrisccoulson, http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/08/stable-channel-update_19.html12:53
Dimmuxxchrisccoulson: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55914213:11
ubot2Mozilla bug 559142 in Plug-ins "64-bit Firefox for Mac OS X can't use 32-bit plugins" [Normal,New]13:11
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micahggnomefreak: The symlink patch is missing from the maverick build14:54
micahgI have it here locally14:54
gnomefreakmicahg: the daily?14:54
micahgboth daily and my PPA14:54
* gnomefreak on Lucid and it isnt working14:54
micahghmm14:55
micahgI updated the lucid build in my PPA with it14:55
gnomefreakyour PPA in Lucid works i just dont feel like adding 10 accounts14:55
micahggnomefreak: oh...but you added them to the daily?14:55
micahggnomefreak: I forgot about the migrator which is why I didn't upload last night14:55
gnomefreakmicahg: i had them added to daily14:55
micahgchrisccoulson: ^^14:55
micahggnomefreak: the upload to maverick will be able to migrate that/the new thunderbird.head daily will also soon14:56
gnomefreakas long as i get to keep both profiles in tact14:56
micahggnomefreak: well, thunderbird in daily will be 3.1 soon14:57
micahgbut will offer to migrate the profile from tb-3.114:57
gnomefreakyeah my profile is .thunderbird-3.1 where asa the PPa profile is .thunderbird14:57
micahgchrisccoulson: around?15:05
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, sorry was just grabbing a bit of late lunch15:06
* gnomefreak dreams of lunch15:06
micahgchrisccoulson: k, np, so did you read the irc log from around 17:00 UTC15:07
micahgoops15:07
micahgI meant 7:00 UTC15:07
chrisccoulsonmicahg - no, i've not read them15:07
micahgchrisccoulson: k, well, he's the issue15:07
micahgI forgot about the migrator for the TB 3.1 update15:07
micahgI'm subsequently worked on it, but I'm not sure I chose the right path, so I didn't upload15:08
micahgchrisccoulson: I was thinking to drop the TB2 specific code in the shell wrapper15:08
micahgbut asac suggested keeping it since we'll backport to Lucid15:08
chrisccoulsonpossibly, but  we don't have to backport all changes to lucid15:09
micahgchrisccoulson: right, that's what I figured, we could not backport the shell wrapper changes or just the TB3.1 reference changes15:10
micahgI originally did it as one commit, but I can break it out still since I didn't push yet15:10
chrisccoulsoni don't mind either way really. i probably would have just dropped it from maverick15:13
micahgchrisccoulson: glad to know I was on the right path :)15:14
micahgchrisccoulson: k, so should I break it out to 1 change for 3.0 to 3.1 and one change to drop 2.0 stuff?15:15
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, that seems sensible15:15
micahgchrisccoulson: k, how much testing do I need before uploading this?  and should I still push today?15:16
chrisccoulsonyeah, i'd upload today :)15:17
chrisccoulsonmicahg - did you say the maverick version was missing another change to the shell script?15:18
micahgchrisccoulson: the beta profile migrator, that's it15:18
micahgchrisccoulson: I'm also just changing to tb-3.0 beta pariticipation stuff to 3.1 since we dropped 3.0 6 months ago15:21
micahgchrisccoulson: and the dailies not having an upgrade from 2.0 to 3.1 will be ok?  Should make both parallel installable now since it doesn't munge the old dir anymore15:25
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, that should be ok. we have the same issue with firefox since we cleaned the package15:26
ftaok, let's see if my adsl is more stable now..15:26
chrisccoulson(there's no upgrade path to the dailies from old releases)15:26
chrisccoulsonhi fta15:26
ftahi15:27
micahgchrisccoulson: k15:27
micahgchrisccoulson: also, there's no current VCS for enigmail, am I ok with that as well15:30
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, that's ok15:32
micahgso far so good with the new migrator15:32
chrisccoulsoncool15:32
chrisccoulsonthis firefox stuff is a PITA15:32
chrisccoulsoneven defaults/ is shipped in omni.jar, making it impossible to have system-wide preferences15:33
ftagrrr15:33
micahg\o/ all three options work this time :)15:34
micahgk, I'm uploading then...15:36
* micahg hopes there's no fiasco this time since the TB2 shell code is gone15:43
chrisccoulsonexcellent :)15:48
micahgI'll upload tb-locales and enigmail in an hour, have to run out, tb is uploading now15:49
chrisccoulsonthanks15:50
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - would you mind sponsoring nss and nspr to maverick?15:50
jdstrandchrisccoulson: ok. do you have signed source packages somewhere?16:49
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, not yet - they're just in bzr (lp:~mozillateam/nss/nss.head and lp:~mozillateam/nspr/nspr.head)16:50
jdstrandchrisccoulson: feel free to upload to chinstrap and ping me, and I will sponsor them16:51
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, cool, thanks. i'll do that in a minute16:51
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micahgchrisccoulson: thunderbird-locales should be native i.e. 3.1.2ubuntu1, right since there's no upstream tarball?17:07
chrisccoulsonmicahg - was it native before?17:08
micahgchrisccoulson: no, but I was told it should've been, just making sure before I upload17:08
micahgchrisccoulson: well, it was just the versioning wasn't17:08
chrisccoulsonmicahg - oh, i see. so we had native packaging before and a non-native number?17:09
micahgchrisccoulson: yes17:09
* micahg needs to clean up lintian and standards stuff, but can do later before Final Freeze17:09
chrisccoulsonyeah, that version number looks ok then17:09
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chrisccoulsonmicahg - i added a TODO file in lp:firefox with a list of things which don't work now ;)17:48
chrisccoulsonso we don't forget....17:48
micahgchrisccoulson: ok :)17:49
micahgchrisccoulson: I uploaded tb-locales and am about to upload enigmail17:49
chrisccoulsonexcellent \o/17:49
* micahg hopes all the changes are in teh changelog17:49
micahghere it goes17:50
* micahg has to hurry up and get ready for $WORK now :)(17:51
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gnomefreakdamn hes not here18:38
gnomefreak!info pidgin maverick18:41
ubot2gnomefreak: pidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.6.6-1ubuntu4 (maverick), package size 563 kB, installed size 1792 kB18:42
gnomefreakwe should really update that. so now more than 1 bug report18:42
gnomefreakok done with Pidgin bugs for today i think18:59
gnomefreakmicahg: you help with pidgin builds?19:04
micahggnomefreak: I backported teh last version since the devs were running behind19:07
gnomefreakmicahg: we are a bunch of releases out of date19:07
micahggnomefreak: huh? maverick has 2.7.319:08
gnomefreaklatest upstream is 2.7.319:08
gnomefreak!info pidgin maverick19:08
ubot2gnomefreak: pidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.6.6-1ubuntu4 (maverick), package size 563 kB, installed size 1792 kB19:08
gnomefreak^^^19:08
gnomefreakis there at least a PPA?19:08
micahggnomefreak: try rmadison http://pastebin.com/W8ZeKb9G19:08
gnomefreaki dopnt have a maverick box at this time19:09
micahggnomefreak: pidgin dev PPA is out of date19:09
gnomefreakoh ok19:09
micahggnomefreak: ppa:micahg/ppa should have 2.7.319:09
gnomefreakthanks ill look19:09
gnomefreakmaybe it will fix my bug but some how i doubt it19:15
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ftachrisccoulson, i want to do my own app menu, something like the app indicator (a menu, with some actions and a status icon), where should i start? any recommendation?20:09
Dimmuxxthat's just a gtk menu more or less20:11
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micahgchrisccoulson: pyxpcom in Debian NEW thanks to glandium :)22:15
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, it's not going to work for us though ;)22:15
micahgchrisccoulson: why not?22:15
chrisccoulsonAFAICT it installs things in to components/22:15
chrisccoulson(which relies on a stable directory)22:15
micahgchrisccoulson: k, I'll try to grab it over the weekend and see if we can tweak it, it would be nice if we could sync/tweak22:16
chrisccoulsonwe would need to redo it and build it like an extension most likely22:16
micahgchrisccoulson: are you willing to pull into maverick with its future unknown (FF40+)22:16
chrisccoulsonelse we'll be rebuilding it every time we do a firefox update ;)22:17
chrisccoulsonyeah, i'm not too sure about maverick just yet22:17
micahgchrisccoulson: well, that's the issue, pyxpcom offers more interfaces than extensions provide that's why people were screaming for it and probably why upstream gave up on it22:17
chrisccoulsoni'll have a look at it in a bit22:19
chrisccoulsoni'm hoping to try and get ff4 builds working again tonight22:19
chrisccoulsoni'm really tempted to start using make package. it would mean we get a en-US xpi language pack for free22:21
chrisccoulsonwhich we seem to be manually creating in quite a complex way atm22:21
chrisccoulson(which no longer works)22:21
micahgoh, that's a plus too22:21
micahgchrisccoulson: do you know how to pull packages from Debian NEW, glandium offered preview access to it22:22
micahgchrisccoulson: http://people.debian.org/~glandium/pyxpcom_0.0~hg20100212-1.dsc22:24
chrisccoulsonmicahg - you can use dget for that22:27
micahgchrisccoulson: I know :), he uploaded there special for us :)22:27
chrisccoulsonoh, i thought you were asking me how to get it ;)22:27
micahgchrisccoulson: no, I was asking if you knew how to pull from NEW :)22:27
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micahgfta: the thunderbird umd upload will be broke tonight since I pushed 3.123:03
micahgit needs a patch from the other branch to work, I'll fix sat night23:03
ftak23:16
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chrisccoulsonhi fta. were you trying to create an app using an app-indicator, or write a whole new indicator?23:28
chrisccoulsonmicahg - ff4 built \o/23:28
ftachrisccoulson, write a new one, i guess23:29
ftai mean, i need a dedicated menu, like the sound one23:29
ftai need to listen to various events23:30
chrisccoulsonfta - oh, i'm not too sure about that. i'm not sure if that's well documented or not23:30
chrisccoulsonmight be worth talking to tedg ;)23:31
ftai fetched lp:indicator-applet, seems to just be a wrapper to lots of .so23:31
Dimmuxxlibindicate-doc might be interesting for you23:32
chrisccoulsonyeah, the indicator-applet doesn't have much interesting in it. i would have a look at the individual indicators instead23:32
chrisccoulsonmicahg - ff4 loads faster :)23:32
Dimmuxxtime to make the beta ppa then ;)23:33
chrisccoulsonDimmuxx, i'm resting now ;)23:33
Dimmuxxwill it be called ubuntu-mozilla-beta btw?23:34
ftach 5.0.375.127~r55887 is building the stable ppa, i'd appreciate some tests before i submit it to maverick and lucid-security23:34
chrisccoulsondear compiz, when i open an app in docky, i usually want it to appear focused :)23:35
chrisccoulsonfta - when will the build finish?23:35
ftaless than 1h23:35
chrisccoulsoni'll probably still be awake then ;)23:36
ftabut with lp, who knows for sure :P23:36
chrisccoulsonheh23:36
ftagrrr, i wanted to buy a kindle 3, but $129 of taxes for a $139 device, no way23:38
chrisccoulsonouch!23:39
chrisccoulsoneek, the breakpad symbols for ff4.0 are 115MB ;/23:43
ftadamn, it's available in the uk, but not in fr23:43
ftaand uk won't ship to fr :(23:43
chrisccoulsonmicahg - what do you think about bug 520049?23:46
ubot2Launchpad bug 520049 in gecko-mediaplayer (Ubuntu) "general.useragent.override in firefox spontaneously switches to quicktime 7 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52004923:46
chrisccoulsoni think it's pretty bad that a plugin changes the user agent string23:46
chrisccoulsonand then crashes23:46
chrisccoulsonso it never resets again23:46

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