[00:47] yo. when is the jaegertrace merger planned for the 4.0 builds? [00:55] era: sept 1 , but I haven't checked this weeks meeting notes yet === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.8 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 (Now in Mozilla Daily PPA) Coming to Maverick and Stable PPA Soon | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA coming soon | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPMLv | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW [01:04] micahg, will the arewefastyet score skyrocket? [01:05] era: idk what that is [01:05] http://arewefastyet.com/ [01:05] * micahg is still using 3.6 until the beta PPA is ready [01:06] era: idk [01:41] hmm about the 32bit oopp flash in 64bit https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559142 [01:41] Mozilla bug 559142 in Plug-ins "64-bit Firefox for Mac OS X can't use 32-bit plugins" [Normal,New] [01:49] Dimmuxx: chrisccoulson said he'd work on that [01:49] yeah I was here :) [01:50] I just happend to find that ticket when I was looking for something else [01:50] Dimmuxx: beta PPA will have to wait until chrisccoulson fixes up FF4 build [01:51] yes he said something about some bug [01:51] Dimmuxx: well, there's the omnijar issue [01:52] ah that's the one he mentioned [01:54] it seems to be worth waiting for [02:16] don't we already have a 4.0 ppa? [02:16] <__< [02:17] the daily is good enough [02:17] era: no, first was all in one build which chrisccoulson fixed, now omnijar which he's working on [02:18] omnijar? [02:18] era: some people like stability in their browser so the milestone betas are more appropriate <-- I'm in this group [02:18] era: all the branding and .js files are in one super .jar to speed up load time [02:18] whoa, like an xpi? [02:19] idk, xpi is like a zip file [06:48] asac: ping [07:45] micahg: ? [07:45] asac: hi [07:46] asac: Can I drop the TB2 migration stuff from tb.head now? [07:46] since there's no migration path from TB2 to maverick [07:47] the only thing would be the PPA, but there, the .mozilla-thunderbird folder will just be ignored as it probably should be [07:55] micahg: i would apply the same backporting reasoning i had yesterday. dont drop it from head if head might get backported to a distro that has a tb2 migration path at some point [07:56] asac: well, we will be pushing 3.1 to Lucid I think probably later this year [07:58] asac: the thing is, that code is messy and hackish w/the symlink and whatnot [08:00] * asac on a call for 1h [08:00] * micahg thinks this should be picked up in the morning [08:01] heh [08:01] micahg: it must be too early for you [08:01] go to bed ;) [08:01] asac: 2AM, but I said I'd upload tonight :( [08:02] asac: also enigmail is ready, but we have no branch for it in Ubuntu/maverick so I didn't do it in a vcs [08:06] asac: I'm going to sleep soon, please let chrisccoulson know what happened and I'll be back in about 6.5 hrs [08:07] micahg: yeah. go to bed [08:07] ;) [08:07] asac: thanks === fta_ is now known as fta [09:08] jdstrand, mdeslaur: fyi, http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/08/stable-channel-update_19.html === fta_ is now known as fta === fta_ is now known as fta === era is now known as LLStarks === fta_ is now known as fta === yofel_ is now known as yofel === fta_ is now known as fta === fta_ is now known as fta [12:32] seems tb31 daily is not working at all [12:35] gnomefreak, whats wrong with it? [12:35] chrisccoulson: it doesnt start [12:35] eeek [12:35] i'm not using the daily atm, as i'm running what will be uploaded to maverick instead [12:35] chrisccoulson: micahg's PPA version works [12:35] yeah, that's what i'm using now [12:36] i'll have a look in a bit, but i'm busy trying to get ff4 builds working again [12:36] i dont really feel like adding each email address to it atm, still a bit early [12:36] thanks [12:53] chrisccoulson, http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/08/stable-channel-update_19.html [13:11] chrisccoulson: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559142 [13:11] Mozilla bug 559142 in Plug-ins "64-bit Firefox for Mac OS X can't use 32-bit plugins" [Normal,New] === fta_ is now known as fta === fta_ is now known as fta === fta_ is now known as fta [14:54] gnomefreak: The symlink patch is missing from the maverick build [14:54] I have it here locally [14:54] micahg: the daily? [14:54] both daily and my PPA [14:54] * gnomefreak on Lucid and it isnt working [14:55] hmm [14:55] I updated the lucid build in my PPA with it [14:55] your PPA in Lucid works i just dont feel like adding 10 accounts [14:55] gnomefreak: oh...but you added them to the daily? [14:55] gnomefreak: I forgot about the migrator which is why I didn't upload last night [14:55] micahg: i had them added to daily [14:55] chrisccoulson: ^^ [14:56] gnomefreak: the upload to maverick will be able to migrate that/the new thunderbird.head daily will also soon [14:56] as long as i get to keep both profiles in tact [14:57] gnomefreak: well, thunderbird in daily will be 3.1 soon [14:57] but will offer to migrate the profile from tb-3.1 [14:57] yeah my profile is .thunderbird-3.1 where asa the PPa profile is .thunderbird [15:05] chrisccoulson: around? [15:06] micahg - yeah, sorry was just grabbing a bit of late lunch [15:06] * gnomefreak dreams of lunch [15:07] chrisccoulson: k, np, so did you read the irc log from around 17:00 UTC [15:07] oops [15:07] I meant 7:00 UTC [15:07] micahg - no, i've not read them [15:07] chrisccoulson: k, well, he's the issue [15:07] I forgot about the migrator for the TB 3.1 update [15:08] I'm subsequently worked on it, but I'm not sure I chose the right path, so I didn't upload [15:08] chrisccoulson: I was thinking to drop the TB2 specific code in the shell wrapper [15:08] but asac suggested keeping it since we'll backport to Lucid [15:09] possibly, but we don't have to backport all changes to lucid [15:10] chrisccoulson: right, that's what I figured, we could not backport the shell wrapper changes or just the TB3.1 reference changes [15:10] I originally did it as one commit, but I can break it out still since I didn't push yet [15:13] i don't mind either way really. i probably would have just dropped it from maverick [15:14] chrisccoulson: glad to know I was on the right path :) [15:15] chrisccoulson: k, so should I break it out to 1 change for 3.0 to 3.1 and one change to drop 2.0 stuff? [15:15] micahg - yeah, that seems sensible [15:16] chrisccoulson: k, how much testing do I need before uploading this? and should I still push today? [15:17] yeah, i'd upload today :) [15:18] micahg - did you say the maverick version was missing another change to the shell script? [15:18] chrisccoulson: the beta profile migrator, that's it [15:21] chrisccoulson: I'm also just changing to tb-3.0 beta pariticipation stuff to 3.1 since we dropped 3.0 6 months ago [15:25] chrisccoulson: and the dailies not having an upgrade from 2.0 to 3.1 will be ok? Should make both parallel installable now since it doesn't munge the old dir anymore [15:26] micahg - yeah, that should be ok. we have the same issue with firefox since we cleaned the package [15:26] ok, let's see if my adsl is more stable now.. [15:26] (there's no upgrade path to the dailies from old releases) [15:26] hi fta [15:27] hi [15:27] chrisccoulson: k [15:30] chrisccoulson: also, there's no current VCS for enigmail, am I ok with that as well [15:32] micahg - yeah, that's ok [15:32] so far so good with the new migrator [15:32] cool [15:32] this firefox stuff is a PITA [15:33] even defaults/ is shipped in omni.jar, making it impossible to have system-wide preferences [15:33] grrr [15:34] \o/ all three options work this time :) [15:36] k, I'm uploading then... [15:43] * micahg hopes there's no fiasco this time since the TB2 shell code is gone [15:48] excellent :) [15:49] I'll upload tb-locales and enigmail in an hour, have to run out, tb is uploading now [15:50] thanks [15:50] jdstrand - would you mind sponsoring nss and nspr to maverick? [16:49] chrisccoulson: ok. do you have signed source packages somewhere? [16:50] jdstrand, not yet - they're just in bzr (lp:~mozillateam/nss/nss.head and lp:~mozillateam/nspr/nspr.head) [16:51] chrisccoulson: feel free to upload to chinstrap and ping me, and I will sponsor them [16:51] jdstrand, cool, thanks. i'll do that in a minute === fta_ is now known as fta [17:07] chrisccoulson: thunderbird-locales should be native i.e. 3.1.2ubuntu1, right since there's no upstream tarball? [17:08] micahg - was it native before? [17:08] chrisccoulson: no, but I was told it should've been, just making sure before I upload [17:08] chrisccoulson: well, it was just the versioning wasn't [17:09] micahg - oh, i see. so we had native packaging before and a non-native number? [17:09] chrisccoulson: yes [17:09] * micahg needs to clean up lintian and standards stuff, but can do later before Final Freeze [17:09] yeah, that version number looks ok then === fta_ is now known as fta === fta_ is now known as fta [17:48] micahg - i added a TODO file in lp:firefox with a list of things which don't work now ;) [17:48] so we don't forget.... [17:49] chrisccoulson: ok :) [17:49] chrisccoulson: I uploaded tb-locales and am about to upload enigmail [17:49] excellent \o/ [17:49] * micahg hopes all the changes are in teh changelog [17:50] here it goes [17:51] * micahg has to hurry up and get ready for $WORK now :)( === fta_ is now known as fta [18:38] damn hes not here [18:41] !info pidgin maverick [18:42] gnomefreak: pidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.6.6-1ubuntu4 (maverick), package size 563 kB, installed size 1792 kB [18:42] we should really update that. so now more than 1 bug report [18:59] ok done with Pidgin bugs for today i think [19:04] micahg: you help with pidgin builds? [19:07] gnomefreak: I backported teh last version since the devs were running behind [19:07] micahg: we are a bunch of releases out of date [19:08] gnomefreak: huh? maverick has 2.7.3 [19:08] latest upstream is 2.7.3 [19:08] !info pidgin maverick [19:08] gnomefreak: pidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.6.6-1ubuntu4 (maverick), package size 563 kB, installed size 1792 kB [19:08] ^^^ [19:08] is there at least a PPA? [19:08] gnomefreak: try rmadison http://pastebin.com/W8ZeKb9G [19:09] i dopnt have a maverick box at this time [19:09] gnomefreak: pidgin dev PPA is out of date [19:09] oh ok [19:09] gnomefreak: ppa:micahg/ppa should have 2.7.3 [19:09] thanks ill look [19:15] maybe it will fix my bug but some how i doubt it === fta_ is now known as fta [20:09] chrisccoulson, i want to do my own app menu, something like the app indicator (a menu, with some actions and a status icon), where should i start? any recommendation? [20:11] that's just a gtk menu more or less === fta_ is now known as fta === fta_ is now known as fta === fta_ is now known as fta === gavin__ is now known as gavin === fta_ is now known as fta [22:15] chrisccoulson: pyxpcom in Debian NEW thanks to glandium :) [22:15] micahg - yeah, it's not going to work for us though ;) [22:15] chrisccoulson: why not? [22:15] AFAICT it installs things in to components/ [22:15] (which relies on a stable directory) [22:16] chrisccoulson: k, I'll try to grab it over the weekend and see if we can tweak it, it would be nice if we could sync/tweak [22:16] we would need to redo it and build it like an extension most likely [22:16] chrisccoulson: are you willing to pull into maverick with its future unknown (FF40+) [22:17] else we'll be rebuilding it every time we do a firefox update ;) [22:17] yeah, i'm not too sure about maverick just yet [22:17] chrisccoulson: well, that's the issue, pyxpcom offers more interfaces than extensions provide that's why people were screaming for it and probably why upstream gave up on it [22:19] i'll have a look at it in a bit [22:19] i'm hoping to try and get ff4 builds working again tonight [22:21] i'm really tempted to start using make package. it would mean we get a en-US xpi language pack for free [22:21] which we seem to be manually creating in quite a complex way atm [22:21] (which no longer works) [22:21] oh, that's a plus too [22:22] chrisccoulson: do you know how to pull packages from Debian NEW, glandium offered preview access to it [22:24] chrisccoulson: http://people.debian.org/~glandium/pyxpcom_0.0~hg20100212-1.dsc [22:27] micahg - you can use dget for that [22:27] chrisccoulson: I know :), he uploaded there special for us :) [22:27] oh, i thought you were asking me how to get it ;) [22:27] chrisccoulson: no, I was asking if you knew how to pull from NEW :) === BUGabundo is now known as BUGaNaruto === fta_ is now known as fta [23:03] fta: the thunderbird umd upload will be broke tonight since I pushed 3.1 [23:03] it needs a patch from the other branch to work, I'll fix sat night [23:16] k === fta_ is now known as fta [23:28] hi fta. were you trying to create an app using an app-indicator, or write a whole new indicator? [23:28] micahg - ff4 built \o/ [23:29] chrisccoulson, write a new one, i guess [23:29] i mean, i need a dedicated menu, like the sound one [23:30] i need to listen to various events [23:30] fta - oh, i'm not too sure about that. i'm not sure if that's well documented or not [23:31] might be worth talking to tedg ;) [23:31] i fetched lp:indicator-applet, seems to just be a wrapper to lots of .so [23:32] libindicate-doc might be interesting for you [23:32] yeah, the indicator-applet doesn't have much interesting in it. i would have a look at the individual indicators instead [23:32] micahg - ff4 loads faster :) [23:33] time to make the beta ppa then ;) [23:33] Dimmuxx, i'm resting now ;) [23:34] will it be called ubuntu-mozilla-beta btw? [23:34] ch 5.0.375.127~r55887 is building the stable ppa, i'd appreciate some tests before i submit it to maverick and lucid-security [23:35] dear compiz, when i open an app in docky, i usually want it to appear focused :) [23:35] fta - when will the build finish? [23:35] less than 1h [23:36] i'll probably still be awake then ;) [23:36] but with lp, who knows for sure :P [23:36] heh [23:38] grrr, i wanted to buy a kindle 3, but $129 of taxes for a $139 device, no way [23:39] ouch! [23:43] eek, the breakpad symbols for ff4.0 are 115MB ;/ [23:43] damn, it's available in the uk, but not in fr [23:43] and uk won't ship to fr :( [23:46] micahg - what do you think about bug 520049? [23:46] Launchpad bug 520049 in gecko-mediaplayer (Ubuntu) "general.useragent.override in firefox spontaneously switches to quicktime 7 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520049 [23:46] i think it's pretty bad that a plugin changes the user agent string [23:46] and then crashes [23:46] so it never resets again