[00:47] <era> yo. when is the jaegertrace merger planned for the 4.0 builds?
[00:55] <micahg> era: sept 1 , but I haven't checked this weeks meeting notes yet
[01:04] <era> micahg, will the arewefastyet score skyrocket?
[01:05] <micahg> era: idk what that is
[01:05] <era> http://arewefastyet.com/
[01:05]  * micahg is still using 3.6 until the beta PPA is ready
[01:06] <micahg> era: idk
[01:41] <Dimmuxx> hmm about the 32bit oopp flash in 64bit https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559142
[01:41] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 559142 in Plug-ins "64-bit Firefox for Mac OS X can't use 32-bit plugins" [Normal,New]
[01:49] <micahg> Dimmuxx: chrisccoulson said he'd work on that
[01:49] <Dimmuxx> yeah I was here :)
[01:50] <Dimmuxx> I just happend to find that ticket when I was looking for something else
[01:50] <micahg> Dimmuxx: beta PPA will have to wait until chrisccoulson fixes up FF4 build
[01:51] <Dimmuxx> yes he said something about some bug
[01:51] <micahg> Dimmuxx: well, there's the omnijar issue
[01:52] <Dimmuxx> ah that's the one he mentioned
[01:54] <Dimmuxx> it seems to be worth waiting for
[02:16] <era> don't we already have a 4.0 ppa?
[02:16] <era> <__<
[02:17] <era> the daily is good enough
[02:17] <micahg> era: no, first was all in one build which chrisccoulson fixed, now omnijar which he's working on
[02:18] <era> omnijar?
[02:18] <micahg> era: some people like stability in their browser so the milestone betas are more appropriate <-- I'm in this group
[02:18] <micahg> era: all the branding and .js files are in one super .jar to speed up load time
[02:18] <era> whoa, like an xpi?
[02:19] <micahg> idk, xpi is like a zip file
[06:48] <micahg> asac: ping
[07:45] <asac> micahg: ?
[07:45] <micahg> asac: hi
[07:46] <micahg> asac: Can I drop the TB2 migration stuff from tb.head now?
[07:46] <micahg> since there's no migration path from TB2 to maverick
[07:47] <micahg> the only thing would be the PPA, but there, the .mozilla-thunderbird folder will just be ignored as it probably should be
[07:55] <asac> micahg: i would apply the same backporting reasoning i had yesterday. dont drop it from head if head might get backported to a distro that has a tb2 migration path at some point
[07:56] <micahg> asac: well, we will be pushing 3.1 to Lucid I think probably later this year
[07:58] <micahg> asac: the thing is, that code is messy and hackish w/the symlink and whatnot
[08:00]  * asac on a call for 1h
[08:00]  * micahg thinks this should be picked up in the morning
[08:01] <asac> heh
[08:01] <asac> micahg: it must be too early for you
[08:01] <asac> go to bed ;)
[08:01] <micahg> asac: 2AM, but I said I'd upload tonight :(
[08:02] <micahg> asac: also enigmail is ready, but we have no branch for it in Ubuntu/maverick so I didn't do it in a vcs
[08:06] <micahg> asac: I'm going to sleep soon, please let chrisccoulson know what happened and I'll be back in about 6.5 hrs
[08:07] <asac> micahg: yeah. go to bed
[08:07] <asac> ;)
[08:07] <micahg> asac: thanks
[09:08] <fta> jdstrand, mdeslaur: fyi, http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/08/stable-channel-update_19.html
[12:32] <gnomefreak> seems tb31 daily is not working at all
[12:35] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, whats wrong with it?
[12:35] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: it doesnt start
[12:35] <chrisccoulson> eeek
[12:35] <chrisccoulson> i'm not using the daily atm, as i'm running what will be uploaded to maverick instead
[12:35] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: micahg's PPA version works
[12:35] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that's what i'm using now
[12:36] <chrisccoulson> i'll have a look in a bit, but i'm busy trying to get ff4 builds working again
[12:36] <gnomefreak> i dont really feel like adding each email address to it atm, still a bit early
[12:36] <gnomefreak> thanks
[12:53] <fta> chrisccoulson, http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/08/stable-channel-update_19.html
[13:11] <Dimmuxx> chrisccoulson: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559142
[13:11] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 559142 in Plug-ins "64-bit Firefox for Mac OS X can't use 32-bit plugins" [Normal,New]
[14:54] <micahg> gnomefreak: The symlink patch is missing from the maverick build
[14:54] <micahg> I have it here locally
[14:54] <gnomefreak> micahg: the daily?
[14:54] <micahg> both daily and my PPA
[14:54]  * gnomefreak on Lucid and it isnt working
[14:55] <micahg> hmm
[14:55] <micahg> I updated the lucid build in my PPA with it
[14:55] <gnomefreak> your PPA in Lucid works i just dont feel like adding 10 accounts
[14:55] <micahg> gnomefreak: oh...but you added them to the daily?
[14:55] <micahg> gnomefreak: I forgot about the migrator which is why I didn't upload last night
[14:55] <gnomefreak> micahg: i had them added to daily
[14:55] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ^^
[14:56] <micahg> gnomefreak: the upload to maverick will be able to migrate that/the new thunderbird.head daily will also soon
[14:56] <gnomefreak> as long as i get to keep both profiles in tact
[14:57] <micahg> gnomefreak: well, thunderbird in daily will be 3.1 soon
[14:57] <micahg> but will offer to migrate the profile from tb-3.1
[14:57] <gnomefreak> yeah my profile is .thunderbird-3.1 where asa the PPa profile is .thunderbird
[15:05] <micahg> chrisccoulson: around?
[15:06] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, sorry was just grabbing a bit of late lunch
[15:06]  * gnomefreak dreams of lunch
[15:07] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, np, so did you read the irc log from around 17:00 UTC
[15:07] <micahg> oops
[15:07] <micahg> I meant 7:00 UTC
[15:07] <chrisccoulson> micahg - no, i've not read them
[15:07] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, well, he's the issue
[15:07] <micahg> I forgot about the migrator for the TB 3.1 update
[15:08] <micahg> I'm subsequently worked on it, but I'm not sure I chose the right path, so I didn't upload
[15:08] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I was thinking to drop the TB2 specific code in the shell wrapper
[15:08] <micahg> but asac suggested keeping it since we'll backport to Lucid
[15:09] <chrisccoulson> possibly, but  we don't have to backport all changes to lucid
[15:10] <micahg> chrisccoulson: right, that's what I figured, we could not backport the shell wrapper changes or just the TB3.1 reference changes
[15:10] <micahg> I originally did it as one commit, but I can break it out still since I didn't push yet
[15:13] <chrisccoulson> i don't mind either way really. i probably would have just dropped it from maverick
[15:14] <micahg> chrisccoulson: glad to know I was on the right path :)
[15:15] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, so should I break it out to 1 change for 3.0 to 3.1 and one change to drop 2.0 stuff?
[15:15] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, that seems sensible
[15:16] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, how much testing do I need before uploading this?  and should I still push today?
[15:17] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'd upload today :)
[15:18] <chrisccoulson> micahg - did you say the maverick version was missing another change to the shell script?
[15:18] <micahg> chrisccoulson: the beta profile migrator, that's it
[15:21] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'm also just changing to tb-3.0 beta pariticipation stuff to 3.1 since we dropped 3.0 6 months ago
[15:25] <micahg> chrisccoulson: and the dailies not having an upgrade from 2.0 to 3.1 will be ok?  Should make both parallel installable now since it doesn't munge the old dir anymore
[15:26] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, that should be ok. we have the same issue with firefox since we cleaned the package
[15:26] <fta> ok, let's see if my adsl is more stable now..
[15:26] <chrisccoulson> (there's no upgrade path to the dailies from old releases)
[15:26] <chrisccoulson> hi fta
[15:27] <fta> hi
[15:27] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k
[15:30] <micahg> chrisccoulson: also, there's no current VCS for enigmail, am I ok with that as well
[15:32] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, that's ok
[15:32] <micahg> so far so good with the new migrator
[15:32] <chrisccoulson> cool
[15:32] <chrisccoulson> this firefox stuff is a PITA
[15:33] <chrisccoulson> even defaults/ is shipped in omni.jar, making it impossible to have system-wide preferences
[15:33] <fta> grrr
[15:34] <micahg> \o/ all three options work this time :)
[15:36] <micahg> k, I'm uploading then...
[15:43]  * micahg hopes there's no fiasco this time since the TB2 shell code is gone
[15:48] <chrisccoulson> excellent :)
[15:49] <micahg> I'll upload tb-locales and enigmail in an hour, have to run out, tb is uploading now
[15:50] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[15:50] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand - would you mind sponsoring nss and nspr to maverick?
[16:49] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: ok. do you have signed source packages somewhere?
[16:50] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, not yet - they're just in bzr (lp:~mozillateam/nss/nss.head and lp:~mozillateam/nspr/nspr.head)
[16:51] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: feel free to upload to chinstrap and ping me, and I will sponsor them
[16:51] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, cool, thanks. i'll do that in a minute
[17:07] <micahg> chrisccoulson: thunderbird-locales should be native i.e. 3.1.2ubuntu1, right since there's no upstream tarball?
[17:08] <chrisccoulson> micahg - was it native before?
[17:08] <micahg> chrisccoulson: no, but I was told it should've been, just making sure before I upload
[17:08] <micahg> chrisccoulson: well, it was just the versioning wasn't
[17:09] <chrisccoulson> micahg - oh, i see. so we had native packaging before and a non-native number?
[17:09] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yes
[17:09]  * micahg needs to clean up lintian and standards stuff, but can do later before Final Freeze
[17:09] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that version number looks ok then
[17:48] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i added a TODO file in lp:firefox with a list of things which don't work now ;)
[17:48] <chrisccoulson> so we don't forget....
[17:49] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ok :)
[17:49] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I uploaded tb-locales and am about to upload enigmail
[17:49] <chrisccoulson> excellent \o/
[17:49]  * micahg hopes all the changes are in teh changelog
[17:50] <micahg> here it goes
[17:51]  * micahg has to hurry up and get ready for $WORK now :)(
[18:38] <gnomefreak> damn hes not here
[18:41] <gnomefreak> !info pidgin maverick
[18:42] <ubot2> gnomefreak: pidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.6.6-1ubuntu4 (maverick), package size 563 kB, installed size 1792 kB
[18:42] <gnomefreak> we should really update that. so now more than 1 bug report
[18:59] <gnomefreak> ok done with Pidgin bugs for today i think
[19:04] <gnomefreak> micahg: you help with pidgin builds?
[19:07] <micahg> gnomefreak: I backported teh last version since the devs were running behind
[19:07] <gnomefreak> micahg: we are a bunch of releases out of date
[19:08] <micahg> gnomefreak: huh? maverick has 2.7.3
[19:08] <gnomefreak> latest upstream is 2.7.3
[19:08] <gnomefreak> !info pidgin maverick
[19:08] <ubot2> gnomefreak: pidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.6.6-1ubuntu4 (maverick), package size 563 kB, installed size 1792 kB
[19:08] <gnomefreak> ^^^
[19:08] <gnomefreak> is there at least a PPA?
[19:08] <micahg> gnomefreak: try rmadison http://pastebin.com/W8ZeKb9G
[19:09] <gnomefreak> i dopnt have a maverick box at this time
[19:09] <micahg> gnomefreak: pidgin dev PPA is out of date
[19:09] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[19:09] <micahg> gnomefreak: ppa:micahg/ppa should have 2.7.3
[19:09] <gnomefreak> thanks ill look
[19:15] <gnomefreak> maybe it will fix my bug but some how i doubt it
[20:09] <fta> chrisccoulson, i want to do my own app menu, something like the app indicator (a menu, with some actions and a status icon), where should i start? any recommendation?
[20:11] <Dimmuxx> that's just a gtk menu more or less
[22:15] <micahg> chrisccoulson: pyxpcom in Debian NEW thanks to glandium :)
[22:15] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, it's not going to work for us though ;)
[22:15] <micahg> chrisccoulson: why not?
[22:15] <chrisccoulson> AFAICT it installs things in to components/
[22:15] <chrisccoulson> (which relies on a stable directory)
[22:16] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, I'll try to grab it over the weekend and see if we can tweak it, it would be nice if we could sync/tweak
[22:16] <chrisccoulson> we would need to redo it and build it like an extension most likely
[22:16] <micahg> chrisccoulson: are you willing to pull into maverick with its future unknown (FF40+)
[22:17] <chrisccoulson> else we'll be rebuilding it every time we do a firefox update ;)
[22:17] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'm not too sure about maverick just yet
[22:17] <micahg> chrisccoulson: well, that's the issue, pyxpcom offers more interfaces than extensions provide that's why people were screaming for it and probably why upstream gave up on it
[22:19] <chrisccoulson> i'll have a look at it in a bit
[22:19] <chrisccoulson> i'm hoping to try and get ff4 builds working again tonight
[22:21] <chrisccoulson> i'm really tempted to start using make package. it would mean we get a en-US xpi language pack for free
[22:21] <chrisccoulson> which we seem to be manually creating in quite a complex way atm
[22:21] <chrisccoulson> (which no longer works)
[22:21] <micahg> oh, that's a plus too
[22:22] <micahg> chrisccoulson: do you know how to pull packages from Debian NEW, glandium offered preview access to it
[22:24] <micahg> chrisccoulson: http://people.debian.org/~glandium/pyxpcom_0.0~hg20100212-1.dsc
[22:27] <chrisccoulson> micahg - you can use dget for that
[22:27] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I know :), he uploaded there special for us :)
[22:27] <chrisccoulson> oh, i thought you were asking me how to get it ;)
[22:27] <micahg> chrisccoulson: no, I was asking if you knew how to pull from NEW :)
[23:03] <micahg> fta: the thunderbird umd upload will be broke tonight since I pushed 3.1
[23:03] <micahg> it needs a patch from the other branch to work, I'll fix sat night
[23:16] <fta> k
[23:28] <chrisccoulson> hi fta. were you trying to create an app using an app-indicator, or write a whole new indicator?
[23:28] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ff4 built \o/
[23:29] <fta> chrisccoulson, write a new one, i guess
[23:29] <fta> i mean, i need a dedicated menu, like the sound one
[23:30] <fta> i need to listen to various events
[23:30] <chrisccoulson> fta - oh, i'm not too sure about that. i'm not sure if that's well documented or not
[23:31] <chrisccoulson> might be worth talking to tedg ;)
[23:31] <fta> i fetched lp:indicator-applet, seems to just be a wrapper to lots of .so
[23:32] <Dimmuxx> libindicate-doc might be interesting for you
[23:32] <chrisccoulson> yeah, the indicator-applet doesn't have much interesting in it. i would have a look at the individual indicators instead
[23:32] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ff4 loads faster :)
[23:33] <Dimmuxx> time to make the beta ppa then ;)
[23:33] <chrisccoulson> Dimmuxx, i'm resting now ;)
[23:34] <Dimmuxx> will it be called ubuntu-mozilla-beta btw?
[23:34] <fta> ch 5.0.375.127~r55887 is building the stable ppa, i'd appreciate some tests before i submit it to maverick and lucid-security
[23:35] <chrisccoulson> dear compiz, when i open an app in docky, i usually want it to appear focused :)
[23:35] <chrisccoulson> fta - when will the build finish?
[23:35] <fta> less than 1h
[23:36] <chrisccoulson> i'll probably still be awake then ;)
[23:36] <fta> but with lp, who knows for sure :P
[23:36] <chrisccoulson> heh
[23:38] <fta> grrr, i wanted to buy a kindle 3, but $129 of taxes for a $139 device, no way
[23:39] <chrisccoulson> ouch!
[23:43] <chrisccoulson> eek, the breakpad symbols for ff4.0 are 115MB ;/
[23:43] <fta> damn, it's available in the uk, but not in fr
[23:43] <fta> and uk won't ship to fr :(
[23:46] <chrisccoulson> micahg - what do you think about bug 520049?
[23:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 520049 in gecko-mediaplayer (Ubuntu) "general.useragent.override in firefox spontaneously switches to quicktime 7 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520049
[23:46] <chrisccoulson> i think it's pretty bad that a plugin changes the user agent string
[23:46] <chrisccoulson> and then crashes
[23:46] <chrisccoulson> so it never resets again