[00:07] <Raugturi> bazhang: I'm not sure actually why I'm in here.  I joined #ubuntu and it put me here instead.
[00:07] <bazhang> Raugturi, you were ban forwarded here
[00:08] <Raugturi> Weird, any idea why?
[00:08] <bazhang> let me check, hold on a moment please
[00:10] <bazhang> *** Raugturi (Raugturi!chris@cpe-174-109-215-070.nc.res.rr.com) has quit IRC (Quit: :(){ :|:& };:)
[00:10] <bazhang> the quit message
[00:11] <Raugturi> That's funny.  I forgot I'd even set that.  If I change it can I get back in?  (Although admittedly anyone randomly executing other people's quit messages would deserve it. :-))
[00:11] <bazhang> not funny at all
[00:12] <bazhang> and no one deserves it, particularly new users who know no better
[00:14] <Raugturi> How on earth is putting something like that as a quit message taken as intent to get others to run it?
[00:14] <bazhang> why on earth put it there at all
[00:15] <Raugturi> The concept of forkbombs amuses me.
[00:16] <bazhang> okay then
[00:17] <Raugturi> Shouldn't moderation come from a standpoint of "why not?" vs "why?" in which case the argument you're using is that by having it new users may execute it and crash their machine.  If that's really a threat then I'll change it.  The idea of someone randomly executing my /quit message never crossed my mind.
[00:18] <bazhang> you asked the reason for the ban. that is it. it's not funny, nor does anyone deserve it.
[00:18] <Raugturi> Alright, well how do I go about getting unbanned?
[00:19] <bazhang> I see no reason to unban you at the moment as you think it's quite humorous and/or okay
[00:28] <Raugturi> Ok, so do you not believe that it was an honest mistake?
[00:29] <Raugturi> I'm just trying to understand how I can get you to see that I never expected anyone to run it.
[00:29] <Raugturi> So I wan't being malicious.
[00:30] <Raugturi> And it doesn't even seem like a careless mistake to me because the concept of someone randomly executing various /quit messages seems so bizare.
[00:30] <Raugturi> Even so, I'm not arguing to keep it.
[00:31] <Raugturi> It's your channel and if you dislike it that's fine.  But it seems harsh to permanently ban someone for an honest mistake.
[00:36] <bazhang> almost never are there permanent bans. just wanted you to see/understand how that is not appropriate, especially in a channel with many new users
[00:39] <KB1JWQ> You'll find that most channels on freenode will take a similarly dim view of such things.
[00:40] <Raugturi> Haven't been banned from any so far, but like I said I changed it.  I just thought it was funny to give a forkbomb as the reason I quit.  Right, like "haha, my computer died" not like "hey, try this!"  if that makes sense.
[00:41] <Raugturi> But if it seems potential malicious, like I said now it says "the hamster died" which I doubt will cause any harm so long as I avoid #peta
[00:41] <Raugturi> I debated "forkbombs aren't funny" but htought you might ban me even longer for being a smartass. :-)
[00:46] <Raugturi> So how long exactly does the ban last so I can take the channel out of my autojoin list?  Or I can keep getting redirected here I suppose.
[00:49]  * funkyHat pokes bazhang 
[00:50] <bazhang> Raugturi, you can speak with the operator that banned you , if he is around.
[00:50] <Raugturi> Alright, I've got to step out for a bit just now.  Who is the operator and I will follow up later?
[00:51] <funkyHat> ikonia
[00:51] <Raugturi> Thank you.
[01:16] <andrew_708476> Is anyone here good with Ubuntu
[01:17] <bazhang> andrew_708476, this is not a support channel
[01:17] <andrew_708476> does Ubuntu have a Support chanel
[01:18] <bazhang> #ubuntu
[01:18] <andrew_708476> I've tryed
[01:37] <maco> argh @ edbian
[05:25] <bazhang> he said he'd change the quit message yet did not
[06:08]  * Flannel sets mode +b on *!*@ubottu/bot/ubottu
[06:11] <elky> oh please, can we?
[07:43] <ikonia> it's not getting funny about the bot now
[07:44] <ikonia> I'm starting to find it a little rude that it's still here after it was asked to stop doing it while solutions where looked at
[07:44] <ikonia> jussi: can you please disable the bot messaging the channel
[08:31] <bazhang> jungli banned in -ot?
[08:35] <topyli> bazhang: yeah
[08:35] <bazhang> topyli, okay, thanks
[08:42] <topyli> bazhang: specifically, banned by the jungli ident
[08:55] <John-Smith> hehehe
[08:56] <bazhang> John-Smith, you have some issue?
[08:56] <John-Smith> i say sorry at channel but agian i am banned :@
[09:00] <bazhang> John-Smith, as there seems to be nothing you wish resolved, please part the channel
[09:01] <rww> How does #ubuntu-unregged work? Is FloodBot1 supposed to issue "Please register to join #ubuntu - Instructions at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup - Type !why to know why" itself periodicially, or is there some command to prompt it?
[09:02] <bazhang> thought it was test me
[09:02] <rww> that's #ubuntu-read-topic, isn't it?
[09:02] <bazhang> whoops proxy users
[09:03] <John-Smith> topyli: why you banned me there ?
[09:03] <topyli> John-Smith: you were already banned
[09:04] <bazhang> John-Smith, no need to play games you know why
[09:04] <John-Smith> topyli: how much banned i have ?
[09:04] <John-Smith> ok tommorrow cut my banned :)
[09:05] <bazhang> !appeals | John-Smith
[09:05] <topyli> John-Smith: it's enough to know you are banned. i also won't remove the bans in the near future, so you might as well /part
[09:05] <John-Smith> topyli: where is ikonia ?
[09:06] <topyli> that's nobody's business but his
[09:06] <bazhang> John-Smith, you got that appeals message before. no need to join here
[09:06] <John-Smith> ok i talk with ikonia g\for unbanning me :)
[09:06] <bazhang> John-Smith, that's not going to happen
[09:07] <John-Smith> :)))
[09:07] <John-Smith> bye
[10:13]  * ikonia watches jungli attempt to get a shellium account
[10:52] <bazhang> ikonia, that fellow with the forkbomb in his quit message was here earlier raugturi
[10:52] <Tm_T> bazhang: as long as staff doesn't react, leave him be without the attention
[10:53] <bazhang> Tm_T, jungli trying to get cloak in #freenode you are referring to?
[10:53] <bazhang> he already lost two, no doubt they remember him
[10:53] <Tm_T> yes
[11:01] <bazhang> floodbots in -unregged are not giving the correct info
[11:11] <bazhang> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup <--- used to say this, now just tell users to register without it
[11:30] <bazhang> wish the floodbot in -unregged gave out the !register factoid instead
[11:56] <bazhang> floodbot back to normal now giving out the pertinent info on -unregged
[12:21] <bazhang> ugh. recommending dist-upgrade to change versions
[12:25] <gnomefreak> seems ubottu coughed in +1, is he getting sick?
[13:10] <ikonia> bazhang: thanks for the heads up, I messaged him but he was offline
[13:21] <jungli> hey unbanned me :(
[13:21] <jungli> i'm missing ubuntu-offtopic :@
[13:21] <ikonia> jungli: I'm sorry no
[13:22] <jungli> plz i don't create any conflict :#
[13:22] <ikonia> jungli: you have had the process for appealing your ban explained to you multiple times, it will not be progressed in here
[13:22] <jungli> hey i like the ppl of ooftopic they are crazy :))
[13:23] <ikonia> jungli: it's not going to happen. Please leave the channel and follow the appeals process
[13:24] <jungli> hey if you don't want my presence there but atleast give back my cloks :2
[13:24] <ikonia> jungli: we do not control cloaks as you know, that is #freenodes issue
[13:24] <ikonia> jungli: now please leave the channel
[13:27] <gnomefreak> you think by now he would have learned. we should really have someone from staff that knows why we removed his cloaks to be there so they just dont add one back
[13:27] <ikonia> staff are well aware
[13:28]  * gnomefreak thought it is easier to dodge bans without a cloak
[13:28] <gnomefreak> cool so no worries :)
[13:32] <bazhang> alabd back at it
[13:32] <gnomefreak> he needs to join the iran channel as they would know the legal rights
[13:33] <bazhang> he's writing a book he claims
[13:34] <gnomefreak> doesnt change my mind, but #u is IMHo no tthe place for it
[13:34] <bazhang> asking for the 128bit jre package
[13:34] <gnomefreak> there is one?
[13:35] <bazhang> don't think so, no
[13:35] <gnomefreak> this guy is working on my last nerve.
[13:35] <gnomefreak> win 5
[13:37] <gnomefreak> but he is not doing anything but bothering me so i have to deal with it :\
[13:40] <topyli> i think it's safe to say we will never see this book
[13:40] <topyli> he's been asking basic questions on our channels for ages
[13:43] <ikonia> bazhang: he now says he's not writing a book
[13:43] <popey> is this humble?
[13:44] <topyli> popey: yes
[13:44] <ikonia> bazhang: that was one of the arguments he made when he was banned from all the wikipedia channels
[13:44] <popey> humble == jungli?
[13:44] <ikonia> no
[13:44] <popey> oh, sorry.
[13:44] <ikonia> alabd = humble
[13:44] <ikonia> jungli = time waster troll
[13:44] <gnomefreak> tell him to buy ubuntus book
[13:45] <bazhang> or just dl the free and excellent manual
[13:45] <ikonia> we all know it's nothing to do with a book, he's trying to do suspect stuff
[13:45] <bazhang> seems so
[13:46] <ikonia> eg: he was caught using the comments in wikipedia to claim work as his own
[13:46] <ikonia> (one of the reasons he was banned)
[13:46] <ikonia> that was for an educational assigment
[14:27] <Pici> Have we been set +r for long?
[14:27] <ikonia> I didn't know we'd set it
[14:28] <bazhang> around 12 hrs
[14:29] <ikonia> lets remove it
[14:30] <bazhang> great
[14:30] <ikonia> pici already did it
[14:30] <bazhang> the floodbots in -unregged are not doing it
[14:30] <ikonia> sorry, too slow
[14:30] <ikonia> Hmmmm IRCAnswersBot I never like that nick
[14:31] <Pici> bazhang: not doing what?
[14:31] <bazhang> Pici, not giving out info on how to register, and at times not even telling users they need to register
[14:32] <Pici> bazhang: they only do that for a few rounds, you need to tell them to 'nag' in #ubuntu-ops-monitor.
[14:32] <bazhang> Pici, okay thanks
[14:32] <ikonia> nag pici
[14:32] <Pici> Becuse the bots don't think that +r should be set for that long.
[15:03] <bazhang> time to reset +r ?
[15:04] <Pici> yep ;(
[15:04] <bazhang> just brings out the worst commenters, a la vect et al
[15:07] <popey> YOU WILL IGNORE THE SPAM! :D
[15:08] <Pici> I expected someone to tell me to stop spamming for even saying.
[15:08] <Pici> that.
[15:45]  * popey hugs Pici 
[15:57] <ikonia> meowbuntu/its-me-again is in the mint channel asking for help on his mint system
[15:58] <ikonia> he has done this before and been told to stop, so now he's banned
[16:06] <ikonia> hello sonny_jim
[16:06] <sonny_jim> I cannot join ubuntu due to my hostname
[16:07] <sonny_jim> This makes me a sad panda
[16:07] <ikonia> hello bacta
[16:08] <ikonia> sonny_jim: there are no bans in place for you in #ubuntu so you can join
[16:08] <sonny_jim> ubuntu on efnet this is
[16:08] <sonny_jim> Which is the main channel, efnet or freenode?
[16:08] <ikonia> freenode is the official channel
[16:08] <sonny_jim> right
[16:09] <sonny_jim> The efnet one autobans people with mail.xxx.xxx
[16:09] <sonny_jim> Freenode doesn't
[16:09] <sonny_jim> Thanks
[16:09] <IdleOne> it is going to be an interesting release season
[16:10] <bazhang> cant wait!
[16:10] <bazhang> someone claimed that maverick was rc3 yesterday
[16:10] <IdleOne> bazhang: me either, I'm already bored with maverick I want to upgrade to natty :)
[16:10] <bazhang> IdleOne, hehe
[16:23] <Pici> bazhang: I corrected them.
[16:24] <bazhang> Pici, yes I saw.
[16:27] <jussi> meh... maverick is very poor here
[16:29] <gord> jussi, how so?
[16:29] <IdleOne> jussi: I have been running maverick since day 3 of +1 opening and have no issues except for having to startx to get gui loaded
[16:30] <IdleOne> it's a pain but I don't reboot very often so
[16:30] <Pici> I've had no issues at all.
[16:30] <jussi> gord: well I havent had nvidia drivers for so darn long, I begin to wonder if Illever get them. then there are all the other little issues, like occaisionally just freezing on boot, requiring hard reset etc
[16:30] <IdleOne> Pici: my issue has to do with nvidia
[16:30] <gord> jussi, you don't have nvidia drivers? wuh?
[16:31] <IdleOne> jussi: install nvidia-current ?
[16:31] <jussi> gord: proprietry drivers dont work, nviidia-current, yes
[16:31] <jussi> tried the adding no abi to the xorg, works for one or 2 boots then goes away
[16:31] <jussi> very frustrating
[16:32] <IdleOne> from what I understand it has to do with dkms not building the modules properly or somesuch
[16:32] <gord> so you do have drivers then, they work. its just that something is reseting your xorg.conf
[16:43] <topyli> lucid works pretty well!
[16:47] <gord> maverick is going through hicups right now because everyone is getting things in for freezes, but honestly its been a very nice stable place to be all dev cycle
[16:47] <gord> i upgraded about a week or two after uds because i'm crazy ;)
[17:11] <ikonia> hi Raugturi
[17:12] <ikonia> Raugturi: sorry I missed you earlier, if you're free now we can resolve your ban
[17:14] <Raugturi> Yeah, I'm here.
[17:14] <ikonia> great,
[17:14] <Raugturi> I talked to bazhang about it yesterday and was advised to talk to you instead.
[17:14] <ikonia> I read the conversation earlier, so as long as you can change your quit message we are all happy
[17:14] <Raugturi> Ok cool.
[17:14] <Raugturi> Yeah, it should be changed already.
[17:14] <ikonia> no problem, I read that conversation, so if you can change your quit message, no more problems
[17:14] <ikonia> really ? it wasn't when you left here yesterday, can you check please
[17:15] <Raugturi> maybe i forgot /save
[17:15] <Raugturi> i'll test it now, 1 sec
[17:15] <ikonia> thanks
[17:15] <ikonia> still there
[17:16] <Raugturi> ok that's bizarre, let me go ask in #irssi
[17:16] <ikonia> no problem
[17:19] <ikonia> that's looking better
[17:19] <Raugturi> Alright, what that time?
[17:19] <IdleOne> Raugturi has quit (Client Quit)
[17:19] <Raugturi> works for me
[17:19] <IdleOne> that is good :)
[17:19] <ikonia> give me 1 minute
[17:19] <Raugturi> Thank you.
[17:20] <ikonia> Raugturi: ban all fixed
[17:20] <ikonia> Raugturi: you're welcome to rejoin ubuntu
[17:20] <Raugturi> Thanks again, and sorry for causing issues.
[18:58] <Tm_T> hi LimaBrain, how can we help you?
[18:58] <Pici> ugh]
[18:58] <delac> hello! It seems that webchat is banned from #ubuntu again.
[19:00] <IdleOne> delac: are you being sent to #ubuntu-proxy-users ?
[19:00] <IdleOne> if not join there and the bot will give you permission to join #ubuntu
[19:00] <Pici> I'm looking at it
[19:01] <Pici> ITs working now.
[19:02] <IdleOne> probably needs to be reset in #k also
[19:02] <delac> yes. now it is working. thanks!
[19:02] <IdleOne> delac: good to know. Please part this channel if there is nothing else.
[19:05]  * gnomefreak feels stupid but what is webchat?
[19:05] <Pici> gnomefreak: http://webchat.freenode.net
[19:05] <IdleOne> @gateway/web/freenode
[19:05] <gnomefreak> oh damn that ok
[19:05] <IdleOne> lol
[19:06]  * Tm_T huggles gnomefreak
[19:06] <gnomefreak> delac: can we help you with anything else this sunny afternoon?
[19:06] <gnomefreak> i dont even let my wife huggle me but why not
[19:06]  * gnomefreak huggles Tm_T 
[19:06] <IdleOne> wondering if Bryanstein jcastro LimaBrain persia all need to be idle here
[19:07] <jcastro> oh sorry I am left over from the other day
[19:07] <IdleOne> 2 down
[19:07] <gnomefreak> :)
[19:07] <IdleOne> 3 to go
[19:07] <IdleOne> 4
[19:07] <IdleOne> errr few more to go*
[19:08] <Pici> heh, ubuntulo1.
[19:08] <IdleOne> canonical bot?
[19:08] <Pici> Its ubuntulog, but I read it as ubuntulol
[19:09] <IdleOne> oh haha yeah i did that also
[19:09] <IdleOne> 3
[19:10] <Pici> persìa isn't identified, he gets voiced here.
[19:10] <IdleOne> ahh ok
[19:10] <IdleOne> wasn't sure about persia
[19:10] <Pici> davìey too.
[19:11] <IdleOne> yup and Mamarok
[19:11] <IdleOne> so if the shellium issue is resolved?
[19:11] <IdleOne> if/is
[19:11] <Pici> Lets wait for the next ircc meeting to go through first.
[19:12] <IdleOne> okie dokie
[19:16] <gnomefreak> let me guess next meeting is 1st weekend in Sept?
[19:24] <mneptok> IdleOne: Bryanstein works with shellium, and is here in case we have problems with them again.
[19:31] <Mamarok> IdleOne: ?
[19:32] <Mamarok> hm, I guess I have to log out and in again
[19:32] <Pici> meh, I was using other unicode characters to avoid hilighting people.
[19:44] <IdleOne> sorry didn't mean to highlight Mamarok
[19:44] <Pici> did you just do it again?
[19:44] <IdleOne> haha I did but with intention
[19:45] <IdleOne> I don't see why people get all bothered about highlights
[19:56] <gnomefreak> it bothers people if they are working or sleeping at desk
[20:24] <Pici> le sigh
[20:24] <maco> O_o
[20:25] <jpds> Pici: That's my line.
[20:26] <marienz> and vect is really starting to get a little bothersome
[20:26] <Pici> s/starting/continuing/
[20:35] <jpds> Wow; DrGrov was rude in -kernel
[20:37] <Pici> oh?
[20:38]  * Pici isn't in there.
[20:38] <gnomefreak> he was impatient waited 3 minutes than said something like no help, nevermind
[20:38] <gnomefreak> something like that
[20:39] <gnomefreak> its not that much of a support channel anyway
[20:39] <maco> its not a support channel at all
[20:40] <gnomefreak> i have gotten help in there 1 or 2 times but i dont look at it as a support channel as it is a dev channel
[20:40] <Pici> I warn people that its not a support channel if I forward them there.
[20:41] <gnomefreak> i have sent people to -motu without thinking (once or twice) but never -devel -desktop -kenrel ect..
[20:41] <gnomefreak> kernel
[20:44] <gnomefreak> !info pidgin maverick
[20:44] <gnomefreak> ^^ is wrong
[20:44] <gnomefreak> no it isnt
[20:44] <gnomefreak> the bot updated
[20:46]  * Pici pats gnomefreak 
[20:46] <gnomefreak> an hour ago it was wrong
[20:49] <Pici> If anyone is having access problems in -ops-monitor, please poke me or another irccer.
[20:50] <gnomefreak> not sure if im in there
[20:50] <Pici> you're on the access list anyway
[20:50] <gnomefreak> ah im htere too