[00:50] wow.. gluster.. really sucks in per-char io mode [00:57] Will a *.domain.com dns record catch www.domain.com as well? I noticed my old host automatically added a dns record for www.domain.com on top of the *.domain.com was curious if any reason for it [00:59] * should include www [00:59] smw: I figured as much just unsure why host added it as a seperate entry.. [00:59] thx :) [01:06] New bug: #620792 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 2.4.2-1ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus post-installation script a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620792 === ccheney` is now known as ccheney === jjohansen is now known as jj-afk [01:56] hello [01:57] !hi | kakis [01:57] kakis: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-server! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [01:57] lol [02:04] hggdh: i'm merging 1232 now [02:07] hggdh: make that 1233 [02:16] kirkland: I tried, but got stuck on how to create the package from the bzr [02:17] how can i find out what package created a specific group? [02:17] the group is 'ssl-cert' [02:18] ssl-cert package? [02:19] hggdh: let me show you ... [02:21] pmatulis: how to find a group... I do not know, it is probably being created on a post-install. But ssl-cert as a package is a nice bet [02:21] hggdh: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-virt/ubuntu/maverick/eucalyptus/2.0/annotate/head:/debian/README.ubuntu-merging [02:21] hggdh: that doc tells you everything you need to know :-) [02:22] hggdh: you can copy and paste those commands almost verbatim [02:22] kirkland: thanks. Next time I hope I will be able to gwt it done on my own, and free you folks [02:22] hggdh: and I have uploaded ../eucalyptus_2.0~bzr1233-0ubuntu1_source.changes now [02:22] hggdh: heh, we're here to help one another [02:23] kirkland: exactly. I need to do my part of 'helping one another' ;-) [02:23] hggdh: oh, BS ... you're kicking butt and taking names [02:23] * hggdh blushes [02:27] hggdh: anything else you need from me? [02:27] hggdh: i'm about to call it an evening [02:28] kirkland: go for it [02:39] Is there any tool I can use (preferably, graphical or web based) that will make bridged networking slightly less of a messy hassle for KVM guests? I always end up breaking my host's networking whenever I mess with brctl etc, and that's a royal pain because I don't have physical access to the box (it's hosted). [03:29] ScottK: Finally got a CD image that a) existed and b) worked. It's installed, I'll tinker with Kolab tomorrow night or Saturday. [03:59] ryanakca: Great. I'll be offline most of the weekend, so we'll probably need to catch up next week. dovecot-metadata-plugin is the plugin that's supposed to be all you need to get it working with dovecot. [04:19] zul: hey [04:20] zul: is there a list of bugs related to the upstart conversion? [04:20] zul: the spec status says that it's currently blocked on review === corpse is now known as fross [05:09] guy's do you know a program that will help. defragment my hard drive. it is a ntfs. pls guys help me. [05:15] anthony_: I believe Windows can do that. [05:16] anthony_: run chkdsk on windows [05:19] ogex: you mean we dont have the tool to deframent a ntfs partition. [05:19] run chkdsk first n then we see next [05:21] ogex: how will i run that on linux or windows. i don't have an idea. pls help. [05:21] ? [05:22] u use dual boot with grub linux boot loader / [05:22] ? [05:22] yap [05:23] can u use windows now ? [05:24] yes i can. do just that. so how will i run. chkdsk [05:25] open command prompt [05:25] u must join other channel :D [05:25] this in ubuntuers channel right ? [05:25] xixixi [05:28] i don't have an idea. === Guest11851 is now known as jmarsden [05:54] This channel is for discussion of Ubuntu server issues. [06:16] i get this error running supybot [06:16] OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/logs' [06:17] Sounds like you've managed to set its working directory to the empty string [06:18] erm? [06:18] hey why does lucid use such an old version of mod_wsgi [06:18] 2.8 [06:18] when 3.3 is out [06:18] so what do i do? [06:19] twb, [06:20] sailerboy: talk to the supybot people, I guess [06:20] it's in /home/sailerboy/RainBot [06:21] glick: because Lucid is released. That means it's stable; it doesn't change. [06:21] twb, it seems that supybot is trying to edit messages.log but isnt allowed to [06:21] how do i allow access? [06:22] glick: if you want new features (and the concommittant new bugs), migrate to the unreleased version of Ubuntu (currently maverick). [06:22] sailerboy: I don't know, nor care. [06:22] sailerboy: ask #supybot [06:33] morning [06:50] !brain [06:50] Hi! I'm #ubuntu-server's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [06:58] Hey, i just got a wireless card working on my server, but for some reason my speeds are incredibly slow. downloading from an outside server i am getting 10kbps when if wired i get 1.6mb. any ideas? === corpse is now known as fross [07:04] <\sh> fross: bad signal quality of your wifi? [07:26] Hey guys. When I input text to the tty (even at the local system), the text starts typing over itself and text appears to append to the prompt but if I hit CTRL+L its fine again but not for long [07:26] Is this a known issue? [07:27] never heard about that [07:28] Not tried last nights kernel update yet but will be tonight [07:40] <\sh> people, does anyone have a solution to the problem I blogged about on http://www.shermann.name/2010/08/openldap-passwd-and-crypt-passwords.html it would be interesting to hear your opinions and thoughts on this [08:04] Moin \sh [08:06] <\sh> moins binBASH === unreal_ is now known as unreal [08:07] strange issue what you wrote in your blog === unreal_ is now known as unreal [08:14] <\sh> binBASH: yes. [08:27] New bug: #620942 in openldap (main) "Failed to install java (for running applets): package slapd 2.4.21-0ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620942 [08:32] excuse me, whats the deifference between postfix and dovecroft? [08:33] glick: You mean dovecot? [08:33] yeah thats it, lol dovecroft is a soap [08:33] postfix is an smtp server. dovecot is a pop3/imap server. [08:35] so postfix sends and recieves email, and dovcot allows you to retrieve it and send it with clients, and to create mailboxes, and folders and such? [08:38] dovecot only does the retrieval to clients [08:38] smtp does all sending, and receiving from other mail servers [08:38] i see [08:39] in my postfix config i have myhostname = mail.something.com [08:40] and then mydestination = something.com, localhost [08:40] but the actual machine its on is the same as my www server [08:40] www.something.com [08:40] i want emails to be sent and recieved from someone@something.com [08:40] not someone@mail.something.com [08:41] then the mailname should be something.com [08:41] qman__, you mean the hostname? [08:44] not exactly [08:44] but changing that will cause it [08:45] mail configuration can be very complicated, and that's just one example of how [09:06] how should i set this up, my postfix install, basically i want it to be able to send email to anywhere, but only recieve email from the localhost(i have a webapp that generates the emails from a contact form) [09:07] New bug: #620959 in dovecot (main) "Please compile --with-solr" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620959 [09:27] does postfix run chrooted by default? [09:28] on buntu [09:32] ps aux only shows started processes correct? [09:43] hey guys [09:43] i'm having a permissions problem [09:43] i'm trying to create a folder in whic ha user could read, write but not delete [09:43] any help? [09:45] uhh [09:46] that they own? === RudyValencia- is now known as RudyValencia [09:46] or is it ok if it's owned by root and group is set to them? [09:46] it's just chmod stuff [09:48] How can I view all user installed applications? [09:49] I'm going to move from 32 bit to 64 buty [09:49] bit* [10:01] a_ok: you mean dpkg -l ? [10:01] g0rd0n: no, that shows all installed packages [10:02] I don't want the deps [10:02] and not the base packages either if I can help it === lavish_ is now known as lavish [10:32] do all scripts inside /etc/init.d get run on start if they are chmod 755? [10:33] hmmm I would think so [10:34] hmm having problems with one of them starting up :( [10:34] you made this initscript yourself? [10:35] yeah copied nginx's as reference didn't change much [10:35] it works from command line [10:38] real strange then [10:38] ghostlines: yeah :( [10:39] robertpayne: the scripts need to be symlinked to the appropriate rcn.d dir [10:39] where n is the runlevel [10:39] normally 2 [10:40] RoyK: thx [10:40] ls -l /etc/rc2.d [10:41] RoyK: is the rc# the order it boots the scripts? I'm a little confused about that [10:41] RoyK: like I see nginx in all of the rcX.d folders in /etc [10:42] robertpayne: no, rc2.d means 'run this when entereing runlevel 2' [10:43] S* means start - K* means kill [10:43] RoyK: ahhh [10:43] so just add a symlink to rc2.d [10:43] given you're on runlevel 2 [10:43] which is the normal in ubuntu [10:44] RoyK: ok any information about the other runlevels? Just curious as to the technical details of different run levels [10:45] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel [10:45] RoyK: thanks a ton [10:50] RoyK: works beautifully! thx again [10:51] np [11:13] enabling ssl on apache with a2enmod ssl, should be enough to allow ssl to work with the default snake oil certifcate right? But can't seem to get it working [11:22] how do i set locales? [11:23] hello to all. i need help with restarting mysql on my ubuntu server. i hod some mysql attack becouse i host simple mashine forum on the server and now the mysql server cant restart. [11:23] syslog has this lines here [11:23] Aug 20 11:30:41 /etc/init.d/mysql[7758]: 0 processes alive and '/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping' resulted in [11:23] Aug 20 11:30:41 /etc/init.d/mysql[7758]: ^G/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed [11:23] Looks like the demon cant start. [11:23] Have reinstalled mysql and still nothing helps [11:26] New bug: #621038 in apache2 (main) "package apache2.2-common 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.2 failed to install/upgrade when using mpm-itk" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/621038 [12:14] Hi all, we are having a debate in the office, what should the swap space be on a 16 gig of memory box? I went with atleast 4 gig. [12:20] it depends on which applications you run and how much ram they take [12:21] simple: If all your apps take the ram system will swap. If there's no swap left you will be introduced to the OOM killer :) [12:22] Its a large database server, running on Postgres [12:23] I wanted to make it 4 gig swap, but at the moment its set at 2 gig, but we are flatening it this afternoon to start fresh with a 64bit os [12:24] and what is current swap usage? [12:24] and which value shows cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness ? [12:25] at load I have seen it eating 1 gig of swap but the system has 4 gig of mem at the moment I was putting in 16 gig this afternoon [12:25] ok [12:25] at the moment with 4 gig I get a swappiness of 60 [12:25] have you really seen swap used? i've 2gb ram and it's always at 0 [12:25] alex88: you are lucky :D [12:25] is it a bad policy to keep swap 1.5 times as big as physical? [12:25] yes I see it regually [12:26] but in this case should we increase the swap? [12:26] at load we get a swapiness of 40 [12:27] how you measured swappiness of 40? [12:27] that's why i've removed. :) [12:28] sorry its set at 40 [12:28] :) [12:28] long day! [12:28] so it means 40% will be os cache [12:28] if i've set lang=it_it, how can i use apt-get in english for 1 time? [12:28] here I set swappiness to 0 [12:28] mysql at least doesn't like swap usage at all [12:29] for safety I have swap partition which is same size as the server ram [12:29] binBASH, in our case there are arguments for increasing it and decreasing it, should we jsut go with 4 gig as I recomended or keep it at 2 gig? [12:29] I mean whats the harm of increasing swap? I cannot see any [12:29] adhorden: There is no harm [12:29] The system should not swap at all. [12:30] Is there any aregument for removing it? [12:30] I do not want to end up in the relaims of OOM killer [12:30] :) [12:31] I think there is no reason to remove it. If it doesn't get used at all there is no harm. [12:31] * Patrickdk is lazy :) [12:31] Patrickdk news? [12:32] :) [12:32] these days I say screw it and just setup a 25gig swap [12:32] Well, diskspace is inexpensive [12:32] I mainly do that for hibernation [12:32] incase I loose power here at home [12:32] thanks guys this is an argument that has been going around the office for two days now [12:33] no one seems to be able to put in a good technical argument [12:33] my servers in datacenters, I vary swap size, many systems I just do 512megs [12:33] adhorden: Using no swap is like driving car without airbag ;) [12:33] this is a production server postgres running in a datacenter [12:34] binbash, dunno about airbags, but maybe seatbelts [12:34] you normally fine without it, but sometimes :) [12:34] yup [12:34] :) [12:34] Never say never [12:35] So if there is no swap we are basically in the shit, with 2 gig we should be ok, but 4 - 8 gig would be ideal and to be safe 16 gig so it matches system memory? [12:35] If you don't have problem with server downtimes you can disable swap surely :) [12:35] adhorden, system swap = mem size is normally not needed [12:35] you just need as much swap, as you want protection :) [12:35] binBASH a few people might get angry with downtime, we have lots of it at the moment as we keep running out of memory hence why I am off to stick in 16 gigs later [12:35] if a program goes nuts [12:35] 2swap might be fine, 4might, or 16might [12:36] it depends on the program and how it goes nuts [12:36] hell, you might need 100gigs to protect it [12:36] but normally at some point, the disk i/o is going way out weigh any swap size you give it [12:36] cause it will become unusable anyways [12:37] its a postgres server running on ubuntu-server at the moment [12:37] the only thing running is postgres [12:37] I personally would say, if you sould never use swap, and you don't plan to ever hibernate, 2-4gigs should be enough [12:37] hibernate, swap=mem, has to be [12:37] this is a server so I doubt we are going to be hybernating it [12:38] well, lets say this [12:38] at 4gigs swap, and disk write speed of 100mb/s [12:38] that says the system will be unusable for 40seconds if it goes nuts [12:38] 8gigs would be up to 80seconds [12:39] at what point do you not care if it's unusable? [12:39] Unusable? :D [12:39] system is too busy swapping to do anything else, like ssh [12:39] have it happen several times [12:40] hmm ok, never had this :D [12:40] here it had things like, oom killer killed sshd or mysqld [12:40] I haven't had that [12:41] but generally I will reboot the system if it gets bad [12:41] when I can't get into it for >5min [12:41] sure ;) [12:41] and at 512megs swap, that happened several times [12:41] cause the disk was busy doing many other things that just swap at the time [12:41] Here I look at KVM console first [12:41] if there is no chance -> reboot [12:42] mine are normally related to forkbombs [12:42] adhorden: I would btw. never go higher than 8GB swap [12:43] oh, and if your on 32bit, you can't go over 4gig anyways [12:43] If you need 8 GB swap at all, there is something seriously wrong [12:43] oh, maybe you can now [12:43] heh [12:43] :) [12:44] Filename Type Size Used Priority [12:44] /dev/mapper/crypt640a-swap partition 25165816 245208 -1 [12:44] it used to only use 4gigs of that 25gigs [12:44] thanks guys I am going to get lunch [12:44] I will when out there set it to 4 gig [12:45] this system hibernates, with 4gigs currently [12:45] upgrading to 12gigs next month [12:45] or more, if I can [12:46] this system = your desktop? ;) === ivoks-away is now known as ivoks [12:58] if i've set lang=it_it, how can i use apt-get in english for 1 time? [13:00] morning [13:06] alex88: just put LANG=C at the start of the command. so "LANG=C apt-get install foo". that'll set the LANG env, but only for that single command [13:07] shauno: thank you very much [13:15] binbash, this system = desktop/home server [13:31] hi is this the ubuntu server help chat? [13:31] That's what it says in the topic. [13:33] what is the best graphical interface to use with ubuntu server? [13:33] putty [13:33] :D [13:34] heh, nice one [13:34] is it easy to install and use? [13:34] samoangunner: putty is an graphical SSH client [13:34] how is it used? [13:34] samoangunner: you know what ssh is? [13:35] nope [13:35] so, ubuntu doesn't have GUI [13:35] it only has CLI [13:35] command line interface can be utilized remotly [13:35] best way to do that is via ssh protocol [13:36] oh ok [13:36] putty is popular GUI ssh client on windows [13:36] so everything is done in a command line only [13:36] it has a window bar [13:36] yes [13:36] crap [13:36] sorry [13:36] !ebox [13:36] ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox [13:37] ebox ah [13:37] I will tri it [13:37] http://www.ebox-platform.com/ [13:37] do I install it on the server or on a different computer and login [13:38] on server [13:38] ok I'm downloading it now on my server [13:39] time to go... [13:39] take care [13:39] hey thanx for your help === ivoks is now known as ivoks_away [13:50] not crap [13:51] who crapped in the channel? [13:52] patdk-wk: 20 mins ago :D [13:52] iphone4gs crapped [13:52] just downloaded and installed ebox in my server [13:53] how do I use it? [13:53] ewhat? [13:53] how do I open it [13:53] ebox [13:53] eboxen was my friends company [13:53] samoangunner: http://trac.ebox-platform.com/wiki/Document/Documentation/InstallationGuide [13:54] maybe read here? [13:54] thanx [13:54] google skillz........ [13:55] binbash google up how to install and setup an android dev enviroment :) [13:55] I plan on doing that this weekend :) [13:56] I'm completely annoyed with android email and k9 mail, so going *fix* it [13:56] patdk-wk: http://tinyurl.com/289wn3p [13:57] hehe [13:57] :) [13:58] blackberry email is so freaking nice :( [13:59] I need atleast, message/rfc822 support, and better html support (but I think a, view as plain text button will be better) [14:02] New bug: #617731 in clamav (main) "package clamav-daemon 0.96.2 dfsg-3ubuntu5~lucid1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/617731 [14:07] New bug: #619170 in openldap (main) "package libldap-2.4-2 2.4.18-0ubuntu1.1 failed to install/upgrade: Paket libldap-2.4-2 ist schon installiert und konfiguriert" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619170 [14:11] I just install ebox on my server and its asking me to type in the Distinguished name of the search base? what is that? [14:12] that sounds like ldap. not something I know anything about, but might get you searching in the right direction [14:17] how could I set up ubuntu server to be a packet shaper / bandwidth manager === mathiaz_ is now known as mathiaz === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:01] anyone have a few cycles available for review of https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/maverick/etherboot/e1000fix ? [15:02] zul: hi! [15:02] like maybe mathiaz :) [15:02] mathiaz: hey got the list for you winbind 612958 ntp 604717 dhcp 612975 [15:11] wouldn't that require a system with a e1000 to try it on? [15:18] anyone aware of kvm issues with cpu frequency scaling? i seem to have hit that. [15:21] * patdk-wk wonders why your kvm console would do anything to cpu scaling? unless it was stuck pressing keys :) [15:23] osmosis: more details? [15:23] I see some old bugs... [15:36] hallyn: looks good [15:40] zul: cool, thanks. [15:41] hallyn: want me to upload it for you? [15:41] zul: that'd be great, thanks. [15:42] (especially since there's another, separate bugfix against hte same pkg, so then maybe i can port the fix on top of this one tomorrow :) [15:58] I am tring to put my server online but not able to [15:58] plug it in? [15:58] I set the ip === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [15:58] yes its plugged in [15:58] I think I got the dns in [15:59] well, your going have to describe the issue [15:59] how do I check if the dns is set [15:59] dig google.com [15:59] I just install the server [15:59] new install [15:59] dig google.com @8.8.8.8 [15:59] I have been digging and found nothing [15:59] first one broken, second one works [15:59] it has internet, dns is screwed, fix /etc/resolv.conf [16:00] both broken, your internet is broken [16:01] the internet is working [16:01] should see something like: [16:01] ;; ANSWER SECTION: [16:01] google.com. 300 IN A 173.194.33.104 [16:01] mine says timed out [16:01] for both? [16:01] yes [16:02] then internet is broken [16:02] or your internet settings on that server are broken [16:02] I think its the eth0 settings [16:02] well, I dunno what those should be [16:02] as your isp should be telling you that [16:02] I know what they should be but I dont know if I did it correct [16:03] the ip should be 192.168.20.9 [16:03] <\sh> dhcp? [16:03] I don't know either :) [16:03] sub 255.255.255.0 [16:03] how do you set it to dhcp in the command line [16:04] <\sh> server or desktop? desktop should dhcp be the default (network manager) on the server you edit /etc/network/interfaces auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet dhcp and /etc/init.d/networking restart [16:06] ok I am in the ect/network/interface [16:06] how do I type in the command? [16:08] <\sh> with your favorite editor [16:09] yes i am using nano [16:09] what is the command [16:14] SpamapS: to be extra sure can you run the mysql testsuite with your /tmp change? === lamont` is now known as lamont [16:21] how can i restrict samba to only listen on LAN interface? [16:22] Error404NotFound: Look here http://samba.org/~tpot/articles/multiple-interfaces.html === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [16:25] kpettit, thanks :) [16:25] np [16:26] mathiaz: you spelled "Future" wrong on the statusreport for the release team :) [16:29] zul: oups [16:29] zul: you can fix it if you want [16:29] mathiaz: sure...luckily i know frenglish ;) [16:30] there was a tool just like tmpwatch in centos, i did find it and even try it, have forgotton its name... [16:31] tmpreaper... [16:31] yup === ]oestewart is now known as joestewart|afk [16:43] smoser: you're plugged in to the server docs right? [16:43] i dont know what that means. i dont have an outlet here :) === jj-afk is now known as jjohansen [16:44] smoser: you can get the server guide edited? [16:44] smoser: just noticed something in the lucid (at least) guide [16:44] i've never tried. [16:44] smoser: nothing major but if i don't say it now i never will :) [16:44] sommer is the owner (maybe you were confusing he and i). [16:44] but sure, what is it? [16:45] smoser: sigh, yes [16:45] smoser: looks like he's not in [16:46] but what is it man! [16:46] i'm on the edge of my seat [16:46] smoser: heh [16:46] smoser: it's just that the ssl-cert packaage needs to be installed in order to add a user to the ssl-cert group [16:46] smoser: as instructed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html [16:46] smoser: this package is not installed if you use the minimal install [16:47] smoser: that's all! [16:48] hallyn: it seems im having issues better ask someone else [16:48] i'm not sure what the proper mechanism for bringing that up would be. maybe zul or mathiaz know better. [16:48]