[00:01] <RAOF> Woo!  Gem!
[01:31] <soreau> about ppa-purge, is it a tool to purge any repo for ubuntu? but ppa-purge itself is provided by xorg-edgers?
[01:37] <RAOF> It'll purge any PPA; it's also in Universe as of Maverick.
[03:20] <soreau> oh cool, thanks
[04:04] <virtuald> i tried running x as user and it put my password on irc
[04:05] <virtuald> everything i typed at tty1 got onto irc somehow
[15:33] <gord> FYI guys, all the sluggish nvidia 2d performance is solved if you turn off subpixel font rendering in gnome-appearance-properties 
[18:50] <Sarvatt> well ditching compiz slowed down the memory leak on intel at least, 370MB after 24 hours instead of 2gb+ and it was 300MB or so when I disabled compiz. haven't figured out whats causing the leak yet :(
[18:55] <bryceh> heya Sarvatt
[18:55] <Sarvatt> heyo bryce!
[21:10] <cnd> bryceh, do you have a moment to chat about ABI dependencies between evdev and xserver-xorg-core?
[21:10] <cnd> I'd like to figure out what the best way to handle it is
[21:11] <bryceh> cnd, sure
[21:12] <bryceh> cnd, tjaalton or jcristau probably are the best people to give advice here
[21:14] <cnd> ok
[21:14] <bryceh> cnd, the xorg package has files in debian/scripts/vars.* which set up dependencies on the drivers
[21:14] <bryceh> e.g.
[21:14] <bryceh> XSERVER_XORG_INPUT_DEPENDS="xserver-xorg-input-evdev, \
[21:14] <bryceh> 	xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, \
[21:14] <bryceh> ...
[21:15] <jg> bryceh: I'm finally back to trying to get this HP 2540p going (eDP display); I have a maverick install running; but screen is flashing at a couple hertz; any prayer of xorg-edgers working this instant?
[21:15] <bryceh> so that's sort of where my concern about a circular dependency is
[21:15] <cnd> bryceh, would it be better to just assume that things will work?
[21:15] <bryceh> jg, no idea I haven't been keeping up on it; Sarvatt would be better to ask
[21:16] <cnd> there's api/abi changes that x goes through all the time
[21:16] <bryceh> cnd, probably... could you explain particularly what motivated it?
[21:16] <jg> bryceh: I would have asked him, but he wasn't around....
[21:17] <cnd> bryceh: the new evdev module will require the server to have gesture support, and that support landed in the *-1ubuntu2 version of the server
[21:17] <cnd> that version has been there for a week now
[21:17] <jcristau> cnd: the server installs files in /usr/share/xserver-xorg/ that driver packaging uses to set up dependencies.
[21:17] <cnd> jcristau, thanks, I'll take a look
[21:17] <jcristau> cnd: so if you bump that in the server, drivers built against it will get the bumped dependency
[21:17] <jcristau> or should, anyway
[21:17] <bryceh> jcristau, thanks
[21:18] <cnd> jcristau, bryceh, so the input abi/api hasn't changed, but I see that the file also has xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.8.99.904)
[21:18] <cnd> should I bump that to xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.8.99.904-1ubuntu2)?
[21:19] <cnd> it's not really an issue for anything other than evdev
[21:20] <jcristau> cnd: debian/serverminver in the server package
[21:20] <nigelb> Anyone heard of an issue where the screen's flickr after about 30 minutes of switching on?
[21:20] <nigelb> they just flickr like a barcode :(
[21:22] <cnd> jcristau, ok, so you would recommend bumping that up to *-1ubuntu2?
[21:22] <jcristau> cnd: yep
[21:22] <cnd> jcristau, ok, thanks!
[21:22] <jcristau> np
[21:26] <cnd> jcristau, should I add a build-deps in evdev against the new version of xorg-server?
[21:26] <jcristau> probably, yes
[21:26] <cnd> so that we're sure the right serverminveris picked up
[21:26] <cnd> ok
[21:29] <cnd> bryceh, if I upload a new server package with just the bump in debian/serverminver to people.canonical.com, can you upload that to the archive for me?
[21:29] <cnd> it's the only change I'll make
[21:29] <bryceh> cnd, certainly
[21:29] <cnd> k, thanks
[21:40] <fester> hi, i'm trying to get kernel 2.6.35 to work with fglrx 
[21:41] <fester> i run aticonfig --initial=dual-head and it writes a new xorg conf, but it always errors out on a rebot
[21:41] <fester> reboot
[21:41] <fester> anyone have any experience with this?
[21:42] <fester> am i in the wrong place?
[21:43] <cnd> bryceh, I've got a new source package pushed to http://people.canonical.com/~cndougla/x/
[21:43] <cnd> that's for xorg-server
[21:51] <cnd> bryceh, actually, I should do a quick build test with that just to be sure
[21:51] <cnd> I'd feel bad if I somehow screwed up something so small :)
[21:51] <bryceh> heh, ok
[21:53] <bryceh> and one day we'll have a test suite to run too ;-)
[21:57] <bryceh> cnd, I've gone ahead and committed this change to our git tree
[21:58] <bryceh> (and pushed)
[21:59] <cnd> bryceh, to the git tree but not the archive, right?
[21:59] <bryceh> correct
[21:59] <cnd> k
[22:04] <cnd> bryceh, looks good for me
[22:04] <cnd> please upload to the archive
[22:04] <cnd> I'll send out a new email with my updates to evdev
[22:05] <bryceh> cnd, done, uploaded to maverick
[22:05] <cnd> thanks!
[22:08] <cnd> bryceh, I just updated the evdev git repo and sent a reply to your review
[22:08] <bryceh> ok