[00:00] <kish> might want to ask in ##linux
[00:00] <Aliselyn> kthomas_vh: nope :) barely even edge
[00:00] <kthomas_vh> ack
[00:00] <kish> Aliselyn, you know im getting a yagi wifi antennna
[00:00] <kthomas_vh> :)
[00:00] <kish> if you get a sat dish antenna you may be able to leech wifi miles away
[00:00] <kthomas_vh> how far can you pick up the ...
[00:00] <Aliselyn> kish: what is that?
[00:00]  * kthomas_vh goes to look
[00:01] <Aliselyn> kish: miles away would have to be dozens, because everyone around here has either dialup or sattelite
[00:02] <kish> Aliselyn, well these point to point links have been known to work over 100 miles
[00:02] <kthomas_vh> dozens is possible with dishes on each side
[00:02] <kermit> whats an .ogg decompressor that supports writing 24 bit PCM?
[00:02] <kthomas_vh> plus there's WiMax in Orlando
[00:02] <Maser> i made one with a metal colander and a wireless-n cisco adapter
[00:02] <Maser> got interents from a highschool that was 4 blocks away
[00:03] <Aliselyn> kish: I'd rather not leech someone else's internet ( and kthomas_vh: my ISP is in Orlando, not me)
[00:03] <kthomas_vh> ah,  but how far?
[00:03] <ZykoticK9> !ot
[00:03] <kthomas_vh> I didn't geolocate :)
[00:04] <Aliselyn> kthomas: from Orlando? a days drive
[00:04] <kthomas_vh> and I don't know what the ...
[00:04] <kthomas_vh> ooh
[00:04] <kthomas_vh> ok
[00:04] <kthomas_vh> :)
[00:04] <FloodBot1> kthomas_vh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:04] <blackswan> !kernel|blackswan
[00:05] <kish> Aliselyn, good god where is this place!
[00:05] <Aliselyn> kish: just NW Florida, in the panhandle
[00:05] <ZykoticK9> kish, can you please drop Aliselyn's location issue - it's offtopic
[00:05] <MichealH> Go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:06] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, I can sympathize, we have no cable or phone service where I live, it's Wireless Inet, or nothing.
[00:06] <KE1HA> Opps, true, we're way OT :-)
[00:07] <kish> the peruvians have created a country wide network of wifi dish antennas that connect a lot of villages
[00:07] <kthomas_vh> hmmm.... connectivity is off-topic for Ubuntu?
[00:07] <bazhang> kish, lets get back on topic please
[00:07] <mastercactapus> i have a strange issue; as soon as i get past grub the screen gets wierd eventually fading to white; the system responds normaly but the display is just white; it is a notebook pc; just installed 10.04.1 i386 with alternate cd (livecd had same display issue)
[00:08] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: I guess talking about my connection area issues is off-topic, so if you want to, I don't mind continuing in off-topic
[00:08] <MichealH> Mastercatapus: Could the MD5sums be different or something?
[00:08] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: I mean in off-topic area
[00:08] <KE1HA> LOL.. Im ok, i'd rather see if we can get you modem working properly.
[00:08] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: thank you
[00:09] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: umm, I don't know how to unpack the tar.bz2
[00:09] <erUSUL> Aliselyn: tar xf file.tar.bz2
[00:09] <MichealH> !lol | ke1ha
[00:09] <kish> LOL
[00:09] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL, you need to add something to extract the bz2 part
[00:10] <mastercactapus> MichealH: the images verified ok; i had this problem with older versions on other laptops but could at least get to the console (ctrl+alt+f1) but although it responds normaly the console does not display either (stays white)
[00:10] <erUSUL> ZykoticK9: no; tar is smart enough this days
[00:10] <MichealH> !lol > kish
[00:10] <thune3> mastercactapus: i'm not clear, does the white go away at some point?
[00:10] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL, excellent - thanks then :)
[00:11] <MichealH> Mastercatapus: Probably a XServer issue
[00:11] <KE1HA> MichealH, Im aware this is IRC, I spend allot of time here.
[00:11] <mikebeecham> errrm guys...I have lost opacity on everything within ubuntu somehow
[00:11] <mastercactapus> thune3: no it does not; i recorded a video of it that i could upload; as im not sure how to describe it
[00:11] <mikebeecham> my mouse is there, etc
[00:11] <mikebeecham> I cant see anything apart from my wallpaper and the mouse
[00:11] <mikebeecham> Is there a way i can get this back?
[00:12] <MichealH> Try logging off and on?
[00:12] <mikebeecham> MichealH: just did...it remained
[00:13] <olskolirc> vlc can't open my input and its set on alsa the one i want how do i get my vlc sound back please?  I cant hear music or the tvtuner
[00:13] <KE1HA> Aliselyn,  just do: [  tar -xjvf example.tar.bz2 ]
[00:13] <itsux2bu> dispite being a longtime dos/windows user..  i do have to admit that linux does have some kickass features.. ctrl-z/bg
[00:13] <dogmatic69> hi all
[00:13] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: I'm getting some errors when I run the install
[00:13] <rooks> itsux2bu, its just the tip of the iceberg :)
[00:14] <dogmatic69> im kinda new to linux, got ubuntu10 going but cant seem to edit any files
[00:14] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: should I run with sudo?
[00:14] <valbaca> !lol>valbaca
[00:14] <ZykoticK9> dogmatic69, what are you trying to edit?
[00:14] <KE1HA> yes on the install portion.
[00:14] <MichealH> Dogmatic69: Which
[00:15] <ZykoticK9> !tab > MichealH much faster then typing nics ;)
[00:15] <ridin> !lol > valbaca
[00:15] <ridin> oh, oops
[00:15] <ridin> !lol > ridin
[00:15] <dogmatic69> ZykoticK9: i installed php5 and want to fiddle the php.ini, the one i found i cant edit, and then i tried to edit the default .html in /var/www and cant either
[00:15] <MichealH> !botabuse
[00:15] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: never mind, I ran with sudo and it worked
[00:16] <ZykoticK9> dogmatic69, when editing "system" files you need to use "sudo" or "gksu" to get elevated (root) privildges
[00:16] <valbaca> MichaelH, sorry, just trying to learn
[00:16] <dogmatic69> ZykoticK9: i did sudo edit php.ini
[00:16] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, sis you do: sudo hfsconfig ?
[00:16] <ZykoticK9> dogmatic69, for example "gksu gedit /path/to/php.ini"
[00:16] <KE1HA> did you do ?
[00:16] <MichealH> Zykotick9, Not on a iPod I ain't
[00:17] <ZykoticK9> MichealH, ahh i see ;)
[00:17] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: I ran it, and it's asking "where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel?"
[00:18] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, sounds like Aliselyn need kernel source/header files
[00:18] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, you need build-essentials and kernel-headers
[00:18] <hiexpo> KE1HA,  anysuggestions on a good channel for programming ?
[00:18] <dogmatic69> ZykoticK9: thanks, that does the trick
[00:18] <ZykoticK9> dogmatic69, :)
[00:18] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: I have no idea what to do for that. I'm basically new at this
[00:19] <dogmatic69> ZykoticK9: why would sudo edit php.ini not work btw?
[00:19] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, sudo apt-get install build-essential && linuxk-headers-$(uname -r)
[00:19] <matt2> Hello, I would like to hear my microphone through my headphones (with no delay). I have unmuted and turned everything up in alsamixer. I can record and playback the input but can't hear it in real time. I used to be able to do this but it has mysteriously stopped working. Using 'pactl load-module module-loopback' gives too large a delay. Thanks  (running 9.10)
[00:19] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: kinda hard when I can't connect to the internet on it
[00:19] <KE1HA> correctionn: sudo apt-get install build-essential && linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[00:19] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, lol - Aliselyn good point!
[00:20] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Indeed !!
[00:20] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: sorry, I'm running 10.04 on my laptop, and talking on my desktop
[00:20] <thune3> mastercactapus: i think your issue might qualify as http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[00:20] <LukaszTarkowski> Hi people how is everyone?
[00:21] <ZykoticK9> !hi | LukaszTarkowski
[00:21] <osmosis> not sure why there is no longer a target line. wondering where I can get this info now.  http://dpaste.com/231386/
[00:21] <LukaszTarkowski> What is the best audio player that playsback pls radio stattions like shoutcast
[00:21] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: it's funny how to download things to get your internet working, you actually have to be on the internet
[00:21] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Well, now Im stuck, as without getting the buid tools, ya can't comple tha driver fer the kernel
[00:21] <LukaszTarkowski> If possible a list please
[00:21] <LukaszTarkowski> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 tls
[00:22] <xangua> !best | LukaszTarkowski
[00:22] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: might there be a package I can download and install?
[00:22] <xangua> i like rythmbox, is default
[00:22] <mastercactapus> thune3: ill try that though i believe its an ati card in this one
[00:22] <LukaszTarkowski> hmm
[00:22] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, You need a bucnh for build-essential .. if you ahve the LiveCD you did the install with, you can use that.
[00:23] <KE1HA> In the package Manager, uncheck everythign apart from the CD-Rom
[00:23] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: I have the live CD, how would I do it?
[00:23] <mastercactapus> oh to whom it may concern heres a video of startup/reboot; blanks about 15 seconds in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_HVcvPHqz8
[00:23] <Nilos> Having trouble with my wireless connection.I did a "iwconfig" and I see the interface, also it does see the wireless adapter, but whenecver I try to connect I get the message NO DHCPOFFERS RECEIVED
[00:24] <itsux2bu> when push a foreground task to the background with.. ctrl-z/bg   where does the output go?  do i have to redirect output to a file to view later? or does the fg command bring background output to the foreground?
[00:24] <olskolirc> !codecs
[00:24] <olskolirc> !kernel
[00:25] <thune3> mastercactapus: i'm not confident. the recommendation is to try xforcevesa, and then install fglrx using System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[00:25] <ZykoticK9> !nox | mastercactapus
[00:25] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Go to the Package Manager, and settings & repositories and select only the CD-Rom, I think that should pull from the CD only, anyone Else know if that's true ?
[00:26] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, probably - IF build-essentials is on the CD (i don't know if it is or isn't)
[00:26] <KE1HA> I dont know fer sure, But I think it should be.
[00:26] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: umm, Package Manager? where would that be? I don't see it in Places or System
[00:26] <KE1HA> If it's not, we're stuck fer sure.
[00:26] <KE1HA> System Administration, Synaptic Package manager
[00:27] <mastercactapus> thune3: that did allow me to use my screen :) ill try installing the hardware drivers and any updates; thank you wish me luck
[00:27] <MichealH> Aliseluyn: it's "Synaptic Package Manager"
[00:27] <KE1HA> I shgoudl say, System >> Administration ...
[00:27] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, Aliselyn - system / admin / software sources would work as well
[00:27] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: heh, I've already downloaded dozens of packages, a few more won't faze me. Thanks for helping
[00:28] <olskolirc> whats wrong with my vlc please here is my dmesg: vlc[5128]: segfault at 4 ip 0690ebc6 sp bfb92640 error 4 in libQtDBus.so.4.6.2[68cc000+77000]
[00:28] <KE1HA> But you need to Edit the Repositories to Select the CD-Rom
[00:29] <KE1HA> After you Select The CD-Rom and Unselect the others, then oprn the terminal, and do the following:
[00:29] <KE1HA> sudo apt-get install build-essential && linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[00:29] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: ok, so I need to uncheck everything but the CD-Rom, and edit the Repositories?
[00:30] <KE1HA> Yes
[00:30] <LukaszTarkowski> brb
[00:30] <KE1HA> Just for this One Install
[00:30] <KE1HA> After we're done, reverse what you checked
[00:30] <Aliselyn> of course
[00:31] <SuperMiguel> whats the lightest desktop enviroment for a netbook??
[00:31] <KE1HA> Otherwise you wil be back here shouting at me :)
[00:31] <KE1HA> SuperMiguel, what do you mean ENV ?
[00:31] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: it would be my idiot fault if I didn't recheck them when I should have, not yours :)
[00:32] <SuperMiguel> KE1HA, manager
[00:32] <Divecks> hey guys, for some reason, this one partition on my external HD has been given a gibberish name (like 30-40 characters, random). How can I change it's "label", the way the system can see it?
[00:32] <ZykoticK9> SuperMiguel, one of the *box would be the lightest - but lxde is more of an environment then just a windows manager
[00:32] <itsux2bu> when push a foreground task to the background with.. ctrl-z/bg   where does the output go?  do i have to redirect output to a file to view later? or does the fg command bring background output to the foreground?
[00:32] <KE1HA> SuperMiguel, if it's ubuntu-netbook then it's Gnme, if it's kubuntu-netbook its KDE
[00:32] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: umm, I don't see anything for the CD-Rom, and everything is already unchecked, so far as I can tell....
[00:33] <Gimped> SuperMiguel: lightest DE = lxde or xfce
[00:33] <jessebye> Any thoughts on Ubuntu vs. Xubuntu?
[00:34] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, http://imagebin.org/110465
[00:34] <Divecks> Upon further investigation, it seems as it has no label, and is instead given its UUID as it's label..
[00:34] <KE1HA> In the Package Manager Got to: Settings >. Repositories and you should see that screen.
[00:35] <Gimped> jessebye: plenty of resources on that topic if you use google search
[00:35] <Oer> Divecks, that is normal for ext3/ext4, there is no use of disklabel.
[00:35] <Nilos> Having trouble with my wireless connection.I did a "iwconfig" and I see the interface, also it does see the wireless adapter, but whenecver I try to connect I get the message NO DHCPOFFERS RECEIVED
[00:35] <jessebye> Gimped: just wondering whether anyone here had some personal experience to share
[00:36] <ZykoticK9> jessebye, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=1 (Gimped you also might want to check out xfce, not too light after all)
[00:36] <thune3> itsux2bu: stdout is normally still connected to the terminal for background processes, unless you redirected it.
[00:36] <LukaszTarkowski> I am back ;)
[00:36] <Divecks> Oer: Well, it's HFS+. But it shouldn't matter, I have other HFS+ partitions on the same drive, that have their labels read correctly. I also have an ext4 partition, again, on the same drive, that has a label. Hmm
[00:36] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: the image appears as broken for me, but I see the screen that I should (I think) umm, what should be checked ot unchecked?
[00:36] <LukaszTarkowski> I just found the latest version of xchat ;)
[00:36] <uRock> jessebye, xubuntu is just as heavy on the system as ubuntu
[00:37] <KE1HA> Under Settings >> Repositories, uncheck everything, and check CD-Rom for Lucid
[00:37] <jessebye> uRock: then why even use it?
[00:37] <Gimped> ZykoticK9: Openbox user here, this is more than light for me  =) and gets my job done, ty I will check that link out
[00:37] <uRock> jessebye, I don't Ubuntu does everything I need and then some
[00:37] <ZykoticK9> Gimped, ya *box is light all right ;)
[00:37] <metalfan_> hi
[00:37] <uRock> !hi
[00:38] <Aliselyn> I don't see a check for the CD-Rom.... let me reinsert the cd and see if that works
[00:38] <Oer> Divecks e2label can change it > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/e2label.8.html
[00:38] <ZykoticK9> Aliselyn, you might need to use System / Admin / Software Sources then - it has checkbox for CDrom for sure
[00:38] <Divecks> Oer, Thanks for the link, but I'm not having trouble with an ext4 system. It's HFS+.
[00:38] <metalfan_> lspci | grep VGA      says:  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series]              but System ▸ Administration ▸ Hardware Drivers   says that there are no properi... drivers in use and i cant choose one to install..why is that?
[00:38] <Gimped> jessebye: if you really want the bare minimum, lxde is the way to go, imho
[00:38] <BluesKaj> I just installed kubuntu-desktop after trying xubuntu for a while , not my cuppa tea ...need dolphin for networking as just one example
[00:39] <SuperMiguel> whats the difference between a desktop manager and a windows manager?
[00:39] <jessebye> ZykoticK9: thanks for the Phoronix link, very informative
[00:39] <Gimped> jessebye: lxde + openbox/fluxbox WM  will give you all the lightness you need
[00:39] <ZykoticK9> metalfan_, ATI may have removed support for your card :(  - don't take my work though - i'm not an ATI guy
[00:39] <ZykoticK9> jessebye, glad to help
[00:39] <jessebye> Gimped: yeah, I used lxde for a while but it felt clunky
[00:39] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: so just uncheck everything in that tab, or in all tabs?
[00:39] <LukaszTarkowski> brb need to reboot
[00:39] <ZykoticK9> metalfan_, s/work/word
[00:39] <metalfan_> ZykoticK9, i cant even play a simple dvdrip.....
[00:40] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, just that one TAB
[00:40] <jessebye> Gimped: then, so does xfce. it just doesn't have the level of polish that GNOME has. But then, GNOME is too heavy for my computer
[00:40] <Aliselyn> ok
[00:40] <metalfan_> ZykoticK9, the card is quite old. but they usually provided an older driver package that supported all the old models. the driver was working in ubuntu 9.04
[00:40] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, the Ubuntu Software TAB
[00:40] <ZykoticK9> metalfan_, ATI removed support for A LOT of their cards
[00:40] <uRock> jessebye, why do you say ubuntu is too heavy?
[00:41] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: I tried to close, and it says that I need an internet connection to continue
[00:41] <jessebye> uRock: I notice when I use it that my CPU is doing a lot more work, uses more RAM, and it just goes slower. I have an old Thinkpad T42
[00:41] <aeon-ltd> uRock: stock ubuntu is pretty bloated to be truthful
[00:42] <Gimped> jessebye: polishness comes from WM (openbox/fluxbox/enlightment/etc), NOT DE (KDE/GNOME/xfce/lxde)
[00:42] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Define Irony, Need software to build drivers to access the Inet, but need Inet to allow selecting the CD-Rom for the binaries :-)
[00:42] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Im stick on this one.
[00:42] <KE1HA> Opps Stuck
[00:42] <jessebye> aeon-ltd: yeah, I agree. after installing I have to spend a few hours getting rid of all the junk I don't want
[00:42] <uRock> aeon-ltd, I use it without problems and I have a really old Lenovo also
[00:42] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: yeah, Catch 22. ok, it did close, and looks like it might work
[00:43] <uRock> jessebye, use the minmal installer and install what you need
[00:43] <uRock> it is faster that way
[00:43] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, ok: sudo apt-get install build-essential && linux-headers-$(uname-r)
[00:43] <aeon-ltd> uRock: but the thing is over the years gnome has gotten heavier adding a few mbs of ram as requirements every big release/update
[00:43] <jessebye> uRock: then I have to spend hours getting everything I need installed :-) either way, I can't get to work right away without a lot of setup
[00:44] <aeon-ltd> ahh if only there was a definitive ubuntu lite instead of others creating random spin offs
[00:44] <uRock> jessebye, you pretty much have to do that with any form of Linux
[00:44] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, there is or should be a space between (uname -r )
[00:44] <aeon-ltd> uRock: maybe not mint linux
[00:44] <edbian> aeon-ltd, There is.  Ubuntu with lxde or xfce as the DE
[00:44] <Aliselyn> thanks, messed that up
[00:45] <Gimped> aeon-ltd: DSL (Damn Small Linux) is quite lite =)
[00:45] <BluesKaj> aeon-ltd, i wouldn't call it bloated somuch as more demanding on the hardware and not compatible some older graphics cards
[00:45] <uRock> aeon-ltd, have you tried ubuntu ultimate edition, now that is bloat
[00:45] <KE1HA> copy & paste: sudo apt-get install build-essential && linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[00:46] <aeon-ltd> edbian: not light enough i'm talking about multitasking (with minimal delays on X) with <256mb ram, integrated gpu, and goin back as far as pentium 3
[00:46] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: hard to copy-paste across computers
[00:46] <jessebye> uRock: that's the unfortunate part, I wish I could just use the OS without spending so much time tweaking it. Ubuntu's too heavy, Xubuntu's too clunky, etc. etc. To tell the truth, I miss my Mac (except the whole closed-source thing and nasty Apple practices)
[00:46] <KE1HA> Ahh, SRI
[00:46] <uRock> I am happy with Ubuntu, it is much easier to install than Windows, Debian or Arch, not to say better than
[00:46] <aeon-ltd> uRock: yeah i saw the ultimate edition, it was a vista ubuntu and more
[00:47] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: ok, it's wanting to install them. Let it?
[00:47] <Gimped> jessebye: there are several flavors of linux (you should check them all out)
[00:47] <KE1HA> Yes
[00:47] <uRock> aeon-ltd, when I tested it, it required more than 10GB just to install
[00:47] <tensorpudding> Why do you need to tweak it?
[00:47] <Aliselyn> installing
[00:47] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, it's going to install several items.
[00:47] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: many many errors
[00:48] <jessebye> Gimped: Oh, I have! I've used everything from Debian, Arch, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, to Gentoo, Fedora, SUSE, FreeBSD, NetBSD... the list is endless.
[00:48] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, so far so good ;)  [nice job btw]
[00:48] <BluesKaj> I have an older pc with ati x200m onboard graphics and even flash isn't running well on some browsers
[00:48] <jessebye> Gimped: None of them really make me very happy.
[00:48] <uRock> jessebye, I'd say build one big command that removes everything you don't want and then adds what you do want
[00:48] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, what are the errors ?
[00:49] <Aliselyn> files not found, KE1HA :\ umm, should I look for them to download, now?
[00:49] <aeon-ltd> uRock: it was insane, obviously the guy who made it had several pcs with 500gb hdd+, a c2d cpu, and 4gb of ram. ridiculous! - the iso builder prob knew nothing about linx's kindness to old  hardware
[00:49] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, i spoke too soon obviously ;)
[00:49] <KE1HA> Yeah,
[00:49] <aeon-ltd> jessebye: +1 to arch
[00:49] <uRock> aeon-ltd, I dumped it as soon as I seen it, just too much stuff that I would never use
[00:50] <aeon-ltd> uRock: exactly, complete reverse of unix philosophy
[00:50] <Gimped> jessebye: i like Mandriva/BT, i'm thinking trying out gentoo/slackware soon =)
[00:51] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, you can try, you need lib6-dev " lib6c-dev g++ 4.4.3.1 or better, make, dpkg-dev that's jsut fer build-essential
[00:51] <uRock> yup
[00:51] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: that's Greek to me
[00:51] <jessebye> Gimped: I haven't tried Mandriva since the days it was Mandrake :-0
[00:51] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Does this other computer, can it connect to the internet in any  way at all ?
[00:51] <lov255> hello
[00:52] <ConnorCimowsky> hi there
[00:52] <uRock> !hello
[00:52] <edbian> ConnorCimowsky, hello
[00:52] <oka> hi ConnorCimowsky
[00:52] <ConnorCimowsky> is there a way to get support for a powerpc mac in here? :)
[00:52] <uRock> drop a brick on it
[00:52] <uRock> just kidding
[00:52] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: the laptop with the troubles? No. But my computer now, yes (very obviously, else I wouldn't be on IRC)
[00:53] <dagny_taggart> the clock in my panel has stopped.  time is correctly displayed in irssi and firefox.  can i restart the clock applet somehow?
[00:53] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, I understand that one,  how are you connected now, though wireless or wired connection ?
[00:53] <jessebye> aeon-ltd: I really did like Arch, but I felt like I spent way too much time configuring everything. That, and I was getting random hard lockups, which didn't help
[00:53] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: dialup
[00:53] <KE1HA> Your on a Modem Now as well ?
[00:53] <Aliselyn> yes
[00:53] <Oer> there is a unsupported PPC port > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.04/release/
[00:54] <ConnorCimowsky> i don't have a functional optical drive
[00:54] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Oh man, ok, nothing liek a challage ey :-)
[00:54] <ConnorCimowsky> is there any way to get aruond that?
[00:54] <Gimped> ConnorCimowsky: does it deal with linux? if not, doubt it
[00:54] <k5220> well, where i can get appletes for ubuntu 10.04?
[00:54] <Aliselyn> true, true
[00:54] <ConnorCimowsky> i just did a netboot install
[00:54] <ConnorCimowsky> only to find that it installed the server edition
[00:54] <digitalfiz> anyone know of a good program to set timers for like work ours or work sprints?
[00:54] <metalfan_> a proprie... driver from amd is only useable with a specific kernel version? are there any other requirements?
[00:55] <metalfan_> ati i meant
[00:55] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: like I said earlier, I've downloaded dozens of packages, debs, and dependencies to get where I am now, a few more won't hurt too much
[00:55] <Gimped> ConnorCimowsky: ubuntu on a usb might work =D
[00:55] <ConnorCimowsky> powerpc macs don't boot USB :(
[00:55] <ConnorCimowsky> and i even cloned the install ISO to a firewire hard drive
[00:55] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Agreed, But these are big packages
[00:55] <ConnorCimowsky> with no luck
[00:56] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: how big are we talking?
[00:56] <KE1HA> 50/60 megs at least
[00:56] <Aliselyn> oh no
[00:56] <KE1HA> Linux headers are the problem
[00:56] <edbian> ConnorCimowsky, Ever hear of unetbootin?
[00:56] <Oer> ConnorCimowsky, netboot install again >  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.04/release/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-powerpc.iso
[00:57] <Aliselyn> hmm.... might an older version run what I need?
[00:57] <ConnorCimowsky> how do i install that iso through netboot?
[00:57] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, I can tell you what you need to download, pkg per pkg
[00:57] <Oer> ConnorCimowsky, same way you install ubuntu server, as you told us.
[00:58] <ConnorCimowsky> but for ubuntu server, i didn't even have an iso
[00:58] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: ready
[00:58] <ConnorCimowsky> i just put yaboot, yaboo.conf, vmlinux, and initrd.gz on the hard drive
[00:58] <ConnorCimowsky> and then went into openfirmware
[00:58] <ConnorCimowsky> and did boot hd:3, yaboot
[00:58] <ConnorCimowsky> then went through that
[00:58] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, build-essential, libc6-dev, libc-dev, g++, make, dpkg-dev
[00:59] <demonspork> I have an HP ProLiant DL380 G3 server with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and I am trying to check the status of the hardware raid array. How can I do this
[01:00] <Gimped> jessebye: i sent you a link in pm's, check if you are interested
[01:00] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, This aint gonna work, I for got there's Dependencies for all those packages as well.
[01:00] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, like, libc-bin, debconf, and and and
[01:00] <jessebye> Gimped: thanks
[01:00] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: I can just run those and see what dependencies they need and figure it out from there
[01:01] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Yes, you can look at each one in Package Manager, and see the deps.
[01:01] <KE1HA> It's allot.
[01:01] <TiK> jsut do it overnight :P
[01:01] <TiK> hopefully you can stay connected
[01:02] <Gimped> Bbl
[01:02] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, the Download time isn't the issue, it's making sure you've got all the deps that you need, and installed in the right order.
[01:02] <Aliselyn> TiK: my internet will stop downloading it after a while, and I'll be eft with a partial file. Besides, 12Mb takes about an hour and a half to load
[01:02] <Aliselyn> ok
[01:02] <Aliselyn> where do I need to start?
[01:03] <TiK> why would it stop
[01:03] <KE1HA> Start with build-essential and pull all those, then for each of those deps, pull there deps.
[01:03] <Aliselyn> TiK: just my ISP being stupid, and the connection running down to a few hundred bits per second
[01:04] <TiK> I use to leave my dialup on for weeks
[01:04] <TiK> time for a new ISP
[01:04] <Aliselyn> TiK: we have, this is the most dependable. also the phone line isn't even 56k, but that's another issue entirely
[01:05] <KE1HA> for linux-headers, your gonna need: coreutils & fileutils + the headers them self for the kernel you ahve.
[01:05] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, if this all works, you get an honorary PhD in Computer Science :-)
[01:05] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: so get build-essential, and get all the dependencies and all their dependencies and so on and so forth until it works?
[01:06] <KE1HA> yes, the two top packages is build-essential and linuk-headers
[01:06] <Aliselyn> KE1HA, no you would :) I'm just observing, you actually understand this
[01:06] <KE1HA> you need to do: unmae -r to find out which linux-headers you need.
[01:06]  * MacAnthony[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes
[01:06] <Aliselyn> now, or later?
[01:06] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, for example, nu uname -r prints this out:
[01:07] <TiK> KE1HA: won't the computer auto.download the right one?
[01:07] <KE1HA> 2.6.32-24-generic
[01:07] <KE1HA> Tik, no she has not conneciton
[01:07] <TiK> o
[01:07] <Jordan_U> !away > MacAnthony[A]
[01:07] <KE1HA> so the headers you need woudl be linux-headers-2.6.32-24
[01:08] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, did you get that ?
[01:08] <TiK> KE1HA: is there any benefit performance wise. compiling your own kernel?
[01:08] <blackMatrix_NY> hi everyone. do you know where I can find the log file for the rhythmbox music player application ?
[01:08] <Aliselyn> hang on
[01:08] <KE1HA> TiK, all this we're doing, is so she can compile the Modem Drver / Kernel Mod so she can get online.
[01:09] <TiK> yes I know
[01:09] <TiK> im asking f I do it
[01:09] <TiK> for y CPU arch. will it increase performance
[01:09] <TiK> my*
[01:09] <KE1HA> jsut do uname -r and add that output to: linux-headers-{uname -r}
[01:09] <Nilos> Having trouble with my wireless connection.I did a "iwconfig" and I see the interface, also it does see the wireless adapter, but whenecver I try to connect I get the message NO DHCPOFFERS RECEIVED
[01:10] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, thats the linux headers you'll need to down load.
[01:10] <MattWB> root      4357 59.7  0.0  26864   520 ?        Rs   Aug14 4356:07 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/checkbox/backend /tmp/checkbox7nNcnZ/input /tmp/checkbox7nNcnZ/output
[01:10] <MattWB>  <--- what is that and why is it using so much cpu?
[01:10] <Aliselyn> I got 2.6.32-21-generic
[01:10] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, so you need linux-headers-2.6.32-21-generic
[01:10] <gasull> Hi.  How do I check what IPs is my computer connecting to?  Thanks.
[01:10] <maco> MattWB: checkbox is the hardware testing program
[01:10] <TiK> MattWB: do you have any other users on your box? what are you running?
[01:11] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, and for Linu-headers, you need Coreutils & Fileutils
[01:11] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: so search for that and download it?
[01:11] <KE1HA> Yes
[01:11] <__ich__> sorry, muss grad mal afk sein 309 mins
[01:11] <MattWB> TiK, no, I don't. And all I'm running is firefox, xchat and pidgin
[01:11] <TiK> kill -9 it and see what happens :P I have no idea
[01:12] <Aliselyn> ok, so also download Coreutils and Fileutils?
[01:12] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, this is why apt-get Install is such a nice thing :-)
[01:12] <MattWB> ok lol
[01:12] <KE1HA> Yes on core + file
[01:12] <KE1HA> then check theirn deps also
[01:12] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: I totally agree, once you can actually get your internet working
[01:12] <Jordan_U> !offline | Aliselyn
[01:12] <Felix00> hi. im using eclipse 3.5 for linux. im trying to install RIM Blackberry API, a popup window is expected to prompt for user and password but instead of that a error says "Unable to read repository at https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads/auth/contactFormPreload.do?code=DC727151E5D55DDE1E950767CF861CA5&dl=C9731C89FBE87985618D78406AE1A89B". It cannot retrieve because it needs authentication. PLEASE help
[01:13] <KE1HA> Jordan_U, Can you help her with that ?? I've not done that before.
[01:13] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: do I also need to dl all the other files you mentioned?
[01:13] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Jordan_U sen you a mesage, that should help
[01:14] <KE1HA> !offline > Aliselyn
[01:14] <KE1HA> read that PM
[01:14] <Aliselyn> there is none
[01:14] <vitaly> how can i install Intel's graphic accelerated drivers on ubuntu?
[01:14] <vitaly> or enable OpenGL
[01:14] <KE1HA> I need to go for about 30 Minutes, I'll be back in a few.
[01:14] <vitaly> with the intel video card
[01:14] <Aliselyn> ok, thank you KE1HA
[01:14] <KE1HA> !offline > ke1ha
[01:14] <Jordan_U> vitaly: They are installed by default, what problem are you having?
[01:15] <vitaly> no opengl
[01:15] <vitaly> how can i test it?
[01:15] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Check out that download script, that will save you checking all these packages.
[01:15] <Felix00> vitaly press ALT + F1, login, /etc/init.d/gdm stop ; Xorg -configure;
[01:15] <Jordan_U> vitaly: What is the output of "glxinfo | grep direct"?
[01:15] <KE1HA> Be back in a few.
[01:15] <Felix00> then move your new xorg.conf to /etc/X
[01:16] <Nilos> my wireless adapter cannot detect my wireless network
[01:16] <Felix00> hi. im using eclipse 3.5 for linux. im trying to install RIM Blackberry API, a popup window is expected to prompt for user and password but instead of that a error says "Unable to read repository at https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads/auth/contactFormPreload.do?code=DC727151E5D55DDE1E950767CF861CA5&dl=C9731C89FBE87985618D78406AE1A89B". It cannot retrieve because it needs authentication. PLEASE help
[01:16] <vitaly> ah i don't have glxinfo installed
[01:16] <Jordan_U> Felix00: I doubt that the problem is with X trying to use the wrong driver.
[01:16] <vitaly> ok
[01:17] <Felix00> intel driver comes by default installing Xorg
[01:17] <vitaly> root@luna:~# glxinfo | grep direct
[01:17] <vitaly> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[01:17] <Felix00> have you got DRI enabled in xorg.conf?
[01:17] <Felix00> and check "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"
[01:17] <Jordan_U> Felix00: I doubt that anything in the xorg.conf will help, Xorg is pretty good at self configuration these days.
[01:18] <Aliselyn>  !offline > Aliselyn
[01:18] <Felix00> not with intel cards
[01:18] <Felix00> since 8.10
[01:18] <Felix00> or 9.04
[01:18] <Felix00> i dont remember
[01:18] <vitaly> hmm
[01:18] <vitaly> nothing with EE in Xorg.0.log
[01:18] <Jordan_U> vitaly: Run that command from a graphical terminal as your normal user, not as root.
[01:18] <vitaly> i can't even find xorg.conf
[01:19] <edbian> vitaly, You don't have one by default.
[01:19] <Jordan_U> vitaly: "glxinfo | grep direct" that is.
[01:19] <Felix00> by default it no exists
[01:19] <edbian> vitaly, It's safe to create one.
[01:19] <vitaly> hm
[01:19] <Felix00> no one can help me with eclipse?
[01:19] <Felix00> hi. im using eclipse 3.5 for linux. im trying to install RIM Blackberry API, a popup window is expected to prompt for user and password but instead of that a error says "Unable to read repository at https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads/auth/contactFormPreload.do?code=DC727151E5D55DDE1E950767CF861CA5&dl=C9731C89FBE87985618D78406AE1A89B". It cannot retrieve because it needs authentication. PLEASE help
[01:19] <FloodBot1> Felix00: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:20] <vitaly> ok
[01:20] <vitaly> loged out
[01:20] <vitaly> loged in
[01:20] <vitaly> works
[01:20] <vitaly> thanks guys
[01:20] <FloodBot1> vitaly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:20] <Felix00> not at all
[01:20] <vitaly> :)
[01:20] <edbian> vitaly, Excellent! :D
[01:20] <Felix00> now
[01:20] <Felix00> you can tweak your xorg.conf
[01:21] <linux_is_my_hero> good evening everyone
[01:21] <linux_is_my_hero> im having trouble with my usb printer...linux doesnt see it.  but my other ubuntu computers do.
[01:21] <Felix00> enable AIGLX
[01:21] <chkdsk> Is there a difference between ubuntu and xubuntu besides the DE?
[01:21] <Felix00> and DRI and change accelmethod to EXA
[01:22] <edbian> chkdsk, No
[01:22] <git__> anyone here currently using Spice?
[01:22] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: when using the package manager, I can't check some of the packages I need to update.... and idea on what to do?
[01:22] <aeon-ltd> chkdsk: gnome apps changed to xfce apps maybe? nautilus > thunar
[01:22] <SuperMiguel> is there a big difference speed wise between openbox and gnome?? (for a netbook)
[01:22] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: What happens when you try to check them?
[01:22] <aeon-ltd> SuperMiguel: openbox is lighter on ram and gpu
[01:23] <SuperMiguel> aeon-ltd, is there something lighter than openbox?
[01:23] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: the only options that aren't greyed out are Mark for Removal and Mark for Complete Removal
[01:23] <chkdsk> Out of GNOME/Fluxbox/XFCE/KDE/OpenBox/etc what's the lightest DE you know of?
[01:23] <aeon-ltd> SuperMiguel: some tiling WMs, other *boxes, not using Xorg
[01:23] <edbian> chkdsk, Openbox is the lightest.
[01:23] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Is it already installed?
[01:24] <aeon-ltd> chkdsk: ob is not a de though
[01:24] <edbian> chkdsk, But technically it's not a DE.  It's just a window manager.
[01:24] <chkdsk> Is it not?
[01:24] <chkdsk> oh, okay
[01:24] <chkdsk> I've only ever encountered KDE/xfce/GNOME
[01:24] <craigbass1976> I'm about to attempt cloning a drive.  Is dd if=dev/sdxx of=dev/sdyy what I'm looking at?  The new drive is 320g, old one is 300g
[01:24] <Felix00> hi. im using eclipse 3.5 for linux. im trying to install RIM Blackberry API, a popup window is expected to prompt for user and password but instead of that a error says "Unable to read repository at https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads/auth/contactFormPreload.do?code=DC727151E5D55DDE1E950767CF861CA5&dl=C9731C89FBE87985618D78406AE1A89B". It cannot retrieve because it needs authentication. PLEASE help
[01:24] <hylian> every time i log on nickserve still tells me that my nick has been registered, and eveytime i have to give it /msg NickServ identify <password> even though i added that info in xchat, i yiy yiy
[01:25] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: I guess? I'm trying to get them updated (I think) so that I can help get my modem workinf
[01:25] <edbian> chkdsk, Those are all DEs.  You'll find a lot appears to be missing with a window manager.  You have to configure them extensively
[01:25] <aeon-ltd> chkdsk: lxde is a de that uses openbox though
[01:25] <linux_is_my_hero> hylian: is your password right? :-D
[01:25] <aeon-ltd> chkdsk: adding on from edbian you really just need (though not neccessarily) a panel and WM
[01:25] <edbian> chkdsk, True
[01:26] <linux_is_my_hero> chkdsk: have u tried ubuntu themes?
[01:26] <edbian> chkdsk, Technically you don't even need a panel.  But then you rely on key-board shotcuts
[01:26] <craigbass1976> hylian, lemme check my own conf.  I might have the answer
[01:26] <hylian> yes it is, my password is correct, i put it under the nickserve password in xchat, still nothing?
[01:27] <chkdsk> To be honest, I prefer xfce+whatever xubuntu uses for wm
[01:27] <edbian> chkdsk, xfce is a DE so it includes a window manager and a panel.
[01:27] <aeon-ltd> edbian: yeah in ob you can just centre click in empty space to get a list of windows
[01:27] <edbian> chkdsk, I think it uses open box though.  Someone said that?
[01:27] <linux_is_my_hero> hylian: i registered my name in irc then use the same irc nick on all my computers
[01:27] <aeon-ltd> edbian: no lxde uses openbox
[01:27] <edbian> aeon-ltd, Thanks
[01:27] <linux_is_my_hero> hylian: never tried xchat, sorry :-(
[01:27] <chkdsk> xchat is lovely
[01:28] <chkdsk> Using it as we speak
[01:28] <hylian> ok ill figure it out, thanx guys, might be on off a lot, ugh
[01:28] <edbian> chkdsk, as am I
[01:28] <linux_is_my_hero> chkdsk: better than pidgin?
[01:28] <chkdsk> Far better
[01:28] <chkdsk> I hated pidgin for IRC
[01:28] <SuperMiguel> is lubuntu faster than xubuntu???
[01:28] <edbian> SuperMiguel, It'd be a very close call.
[01:28] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Can you give a quick overview of your initial problem?
[01:28] <aeon-ltd> SuperMiguel: should be, given its lighter(-ness)
[01:29] <aeon-ltd> SuperMiguel: if you want max speed for ubuntu start with a minimal install and build up from there
[01:29] <edbian> SuperMiguel, If you want max speed from linux try arch or gentoo.
[01:30] <Mogga> what package is idmapd part of?
[01:30] <SuperMiguel> edbian, i hate gentoo
[01:30] <SuperMiguel> edbian, arch faster than ubuntu/debian?
[01:30] <bastid_raZor> !find idmapd
[01:30] <aeon-ltd> SuperMiguel: should be, since its i686 and 64bit only
[01:31] <edbian> SuperMiguel, yeah.  Arch is really fast because you're only running the things you installed and therefore the things you actually use.  Nothing extra.
[01:31] <linux_is_my_hero> what is arch?
[01:31] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: a quick overview might be long, so here it goes: I'm trying to get my modem to work on 10.04. I had to download and unpack and install a lot of different things to get gnome-ppp to work. I have that working, but it doesn't recognize my modem. I need the header files to get my driver's hsfconfig to run. I think that's everything
[01:31] <edbian> aeon-ltd, I don't think arch is 64 bit only.
[01:31] <linux_is_my_hero> <-noob
[01:31] <edbian> linux_is_my_hero, Are you calling yourself a noob?
[01:31] <aeon-ltd> edbian: i686.= 32bit
[01:31] <seekwill> I'm calling linux_is_my_hero a n00b
[01:32] <linux_is_my_hero> edbian: not a chance. but ive heard of so many distros that i just picked one.
[01:32] <edbian> linux_is_my_hero, Arch is a linux distribution.  It's a "roll your own" style distro.  It gives you the linux kernel and a package manager and you build on top of that.
[01:32] <linux_is_my_hero> pickiing a distro of linux is like, picking an assault rifle. they're all good. in their own way.
[01:32] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: You don't want to update any pacakges then, leave that untill after you have an internet connection. Just install the header packages for the kernel you have installed right now.]
[01:32] <smw> linux_is_my_hero, arch is a non user friendly distro.
[01:32] <linux_is_my_hero> edbian: ill definately try archlinux...:-)
[01:32] <edbian> aeon-ltd, You told Miguel it should be fast because it's i686 and 64 bit only.  That doesn't make sense.
[01:33] <seekwill> i686 vs i386
[01:33] <linux_is_my_hero> edbian: is it faster than ubuntu?
[01:33] <smw> linux_is_my_hero, are you comfortable with the commandline? If not, don't use arch
[01:33] <edbian> linux_is_my_hero, It is faster because you're only running the software you are using.
[01:33] <aeon-ltd> seekwill: thanks
[01:33] <seekwill> edbian: i686 can refer to things like MMX support...
[01:33] <seekwill> :D
[01:33] <edbian> linux_is_my_hero, You could make it slower but installing a million things.
[01:33] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: that's one of the files that the kernel needs, I think..... I'm actually kind of lost on this. too much information at once.
[01:34] <smw> edbian, if he is a self proclaimed n00b, why are you encouraging him to use arch?
[01:34] <linux_is_my_hero> seekwill: what is MMX? i heard of it on the pentium 2 and 3 but i had amd's at the time
[01:34] <linux_is_my_hero> smw: im not a noob.  just not an expert either.
[01:34] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Where did you get the drivers you're trying to install?
[01:34] <seekwill> linux_is_my_hero: It makes your computer really fast!!!!
[01:34] <linux_is_my_hero> and i dont have a lot of time, im training a puppy, and i have a time-intensive job, also
[01:34] <edbian> smw, Because a noob should learn?
[01:34] <smw> linux_is_my_hero, are you comfortable with the command line?
[01:35] <linux_is_my_hero> smw: yeah
[01:35] <smw> linux_is_my_hero, go for it :-)
[01:35] <edbian> smw, Why does being a self-proclaimed noob forfeit the right to learn?
[01:35] <maco> !noob
[01:35] <smw> edbian, because I have a different option of what a n00b is than he does apparently :-)
[01:35] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone wanna help me with my printer that ubuntu suddenly wont recognize?
[01:36] <edbian> linux_is_my_hero, arch demands time.  It can be frustrating if you don't know what you're doing.  It's a great way to learn linux though.
[01:36] <edbian> smw,  :)
[01:36] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: I first tried Sony for the drivers to no avail. Then linuxant, then straight from the ubuntu site
[01:36] <linux_is_my_hero> I'm in the navy, so "noob" or "nub" is someone who is brand new.
[01:36] <maco> edbian: if you want to discuss other distros, do it elsewhere. it's not on-topic here, and if people want to learn they will seek knowledge not have it thrust upon them
[01:36] <linux_is_my_hero> im not new to linux, i was kidding.
[01:36] <linux_is_my_hero> edbian: I
[01:36] <linux_is_my_hero> edbian: I
[01:36] <linux_is_my_hero> 'edbian: I'll bet :-)
[01:36] <smw> linux_is_my_hero, go to #archlinux if you want more info.
[01:36] <edbian> maco, noted.
[01:37] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: the one currently being used is from ubuntu directly
[01:37] <linux_is_my_hero> smw: outstanding 8-)
[01:37] <edbian> SuperMiguel, Are you here?
[01:37] <smw> linux_is_my_hero, and for god sakes, use a different name XD
[01:37] <linux_is_my_hero> MARCO!
[01:37] <SuperMiguel> edbian, Yes sir
[01:38] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Have you tried going to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[01:38] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: no, I have not, but am now
[01:38] <exbm> hello, Is there a line for for who need help ;P
[01:38] <edbian> SuperMiguel, l-ubuntu or x-ubuntu is not more lightweight for any reason other than what software they're running.  x-ubuntu uses xfce instead of gnome so it is lighter and thus faster.  Ubuntu becomes x-buntu simply by installing and running xfce.
[01:39] <smw> exbm, nope
[01:39] <edbian> SuperMiguel, If you want your system to be fast and lightweight than it doesn't matter what distro you start with nearly as much as what software you run on that computer.
[01:39] <edbian> SuperMiguel, Does this make sense?
[01:39] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[01:40] <edbian> !ask | exbm
[01:40] <ARcan> hi, it seems ubuntu is kernel panicing when i try to connect to my schools wireless, 1) how do i disable wireless n (this has previously solved issues) and 2) how do i debug/get more logs on this?
[01:40] <exbm> well in that case I will just come out with my problem! ubuntu installs and works except it will randomly crash and the screen goes white with diagonal snow stripes
[01:40] <SuperMiguel> edbian, yup
[01:41] <vol7ron> anyone familiar with Eclipse?
[01:41] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Ok. I doubt that the jaunty driver will compile in lucid.
[01:42] <smw> vol7ron, there is prob a better place to ask about Eclipse
[01:42] <itsux2bu> ubuntu comes with a C compiler?
[01:43] <TiK> yes dcc
[01:43] <TiK> er
[01:43] <vol7ron> smw: ahh, i'm there
[01:43] <TiK> gcc
[01:43] <FloodBot1> TiK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: what do you suggest?
[01:43] <edbian> itsux2bu, the gnu c compiler
[01:43] <vol7ron> smw: thx, for some reason I thought it wasn't active
[01:43] <smw> vol7ron, cool :-).
[01:43] <itsux2bu> so i could write c programs?
[01:43] <edbian> itsux2bu, yes
[01:43] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: I'm not sure. Do you know the exact model of the modem?
[01:43] <Moon_Doggy> i'm trying to transfer a file through ssh but i get thi error ssh: connect to host server port 22: Connection timed out
[01:43] <Moon_Doggy>   i'm not on port 22
[01:44] <SuperMiguel> edbian, is openbox as lights as it gets before console?
[01:44] <smw> itsux2bu, I think you may want to install build-essential
[01:44] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: yes, it's a CXT AC-Link Modem
[01:44] <edbian> SuperMiguel, "before console? "??
[01:44] <exbm> does anyone know about why ubuntu will crash randomly to a white screen that has diagonal snow accross it?
[01:44] <Jordan_U> Moon_Doggy: What command/options are you using?
[01:45] <Moon_Doggy> Jordan_U, ssh server file > file
[01:45] <TiK> exbm: are you trying to run anything before the crash?
[01:45] <Moon_Doggy> no option
[01:45] <edbian> exbm, I've experienced that problem as well.  That's called instability.  I was never able to narrow it down to one piece of software crashing or something.  Basically the X server is crashing for some reason.
[01:45] <snowrichard> scp is file copy over ssh
[01:45] <Jordan_U> Moon_Doggy: port 22 is used by default, and you probably want to use scp or sftp.
[01:46] <Moon_Doggy> kk i'll look them up
[01:46] <exbm> I am usually running something most of the time is a web browser but also when installing software.. It doesn't seem to crash if you just leave it on the desktop
[01:46] <edbian> exbm, Something is going wrong and causing the X server to crash.  The X server draws the graphical user interface on Ubuntu.
[01:46] <SuperMiguel> edbian, u know what i meant
[01:47] <edbian> SuperMiguel, openbox is very light.  I don't know if there is anything lighter. There are a lot of window managers.  Nothing is lighter than the console alone.
[01:47] <exbm> Could it be a driver isssue? I am not using the proprietary drivers
[01:47] <exbm> This is a fresh install
[01:47] <edbian> exbm, It could be a driver issue.  However the open source drivers are likely to be much more stable.
[01:47] <vol7ron> smw: I was right, no one there is talking
[01:48] <itsux2bu> are there other (open source = free) programming languages i can program.. on the PC side i've done basic, vbasic, '86 assembly, pascal, delphi..
[01:48] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Could you pastebin the output of "lspci"? (save it to a file and copy it to another computer if needed).
[01:48] <smw> itsux2bu, go and python
[01:48] <itsux2bu> go is a language?
[01:48] <exbm> Is there anyway to figure out whats going on because I would love to use ubuntu.. but I cant if it is going to be this unstable! I think I should mention I installed the netbook version on a desktop
[01:48] <Jordan_U> itsux2bu: Too many to list.
[01:48] <edbian> itsux2bu, python ftw!
[01:49] <smw> itsux2bu, yeah. It was made by google. golang.org
[01:49] <TiK> exbm: why did you do that?
[01:50] <edbian> exbm, The netbook edition on the desktop really should not be an issue.
[01:50] <itsux2bu> oh.. google huh.. so it must lend itself to searches and ad placements..  lol
[01:50] <rsvp> go is in it's infancy... so from his background stated, it seems Python is the best fit for itsux2bu
[01:50] <edbian> exbm, It's possible that the ubuntu-netbook software is crashing though.  It is rather new.  Perhaps you'd have better success with normal Ubuntu?
[01:50] <TiK> I do java
[01:50] <smw> itsux2bu, no, it lends its self to server programming
[01:50] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: just type that in terminal?
[01:50] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Yes.
[01:50] <smw> TiK, java is not "open source as in free" this week :-P
[01:51] <edbian> itsux2bu, ha
[01:51] <ARcan> hi, it seems ubuntu is kernel panicing when i try to connect to my schools wireless, how do i debug/get more logs on this?
[01:51] <TiK> smw: this week?
[01:51] <TiK> huh?
[01:51] <getoo> how do i stop wl driver for loadin instead i want to use b43 , if i modprobe -r wl and modprobe 43 works okay
[01:51] <smw> TiK, lol. People are saying it is not open because oracle is suing google over their use of it
[01:52] <TiK> oh ok
[01:52] <rsvp> Oracle Java is doing evil... taking down fanboys even in OpenJava
[01:52] <Jordan_U> getoo: Disable it in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[01:52] <getoo> Jordan_U: thank u
[01:52] <Jordan_U> getoo: You're welcome.
[01:52] <smw> TiK, I actually kind of agree with that :-\
[01:52] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: how do I copy text from terminal?
[01:52] <smw> TiK, I would not use java at this point...
[01:52] <TiK> works for me
[01:52] <TiK> :D
[01:53] <TiK> its what my school offers.. that and crap vb.net
[01:53] <exbm> TiK, I installed the netbook because I liked the simplified desktop
[01:53] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: scratch that, never mind
[01:53] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: You can run "lspci > Desktop/lspci.txt" to save the output to a file on your desktop. Unfortunately I'm going to need to leave for about an hour.
[01:54] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: I actually have to leave as well, for a bit.... an hour you say? how long will you be on after that?
[01:54] <TiK> exbm: just install a different desktop manager ;)
[01:54] <ARcan> hi, it seems ubuntu lucid is kernel panicing when i try to connect to my schools wireless, how do i debug/get more logs on this? using iwlagn driver on a 4965agn card
[01:54] <ARcan> i have backprots installed
[01:54] <itsux2bu> i'm also does the LAMP thing.. heavy on the PHP, light on the MySQL
[01:55] <RBecker> hey guys, can someone help me out?
[01:55] <RBecker> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/589465
[01:55] <itsux2bu> s/does/done
[01:56] <itsux2bu> are flash cookies evil?
[01:57] <phragg> Any wubi users here?
[01:58] <allquixotic> Hi, how do I create an LXC container using libvirt?
[01:58] <smw> itsux2bu, yes flash cookies are evil. Not that anyone knows about them :-)
[01:58] <sammarks14> hi, i have a question about my ubuntu installation
[01:58] <smw> phragg, ask your question and see if anyone knows the answer
[01:59] <smw> !ask | phragg
[01:59] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: are you still here?
[01:59] <phragg> Ah, well my question is already posted on Ubuntu.StackExchange but what I essentially did was install wubi, when I boot it up it says no wubildr.
[02:00] <phragg> except, there is a wubildr in c:/
[02:00] <smw> sammarks14, the ask applies to you too
[02:00] <sammarks14> so i installed ubuntu earlier today (10.04 64 bit), and when i boot it, it randomly freezes after a couple minutes of usage. X Server is not running.
[02:01] <smw> sammarks14, have you tried updating and restarting?
[02:01] <phragg> http://ubuntu.stackexchange.com/questions/2677/partition-windows-7-and-ubuntu-no-wubildr Stack Exchange Question if you are interested.
[02:01] <sammarks14> smw: i can't because it freezes before i can get my wireless adapter working
[02:01] <xaviermdc> start in text mode
[02:01] <smw> sammarks14, can you find a way to plug it in?
[02:02] <smw> sammarks14, I can walk you through text mode if you have internet
[02:02] <sammarks14> okay, i'll start it in text mode and follow the instructions
[02:02] <sammarks14> well, its dual booted on this same computer
[02:02] <sammarks14> let me see if i can find a laptop or something
[02:02] <phragg> Sam, maybe you're having the same issues as me.
[02:02] <sammarks14> phragg: what's your issue?
[02:03] <smw> sammarks14, phrag is having issues with wubi. I don't see the connection :-\.
[02:03] <phragg> I've dual booted ubuntu and windows 7 via wubi. When I installed it, it had gone through fine and told me to restart. When I start up and select ubuntu.
[02:03] <phragg> It's both 64 bit 10.04
[02:03] <sammarks14> no, mine installed fine with wubi
[02:03] <phragg> bah
[02:03] <sammarks14> it just freezes about 3 minutes after startup
[02:03] <sammarks14> even in failsafe GNOME
[02:03] <phragg> Would it do me harm to install the 32 bit version?
[02:04] <smw> phragg, nope
[02:04] <sammarks14> smw: do you think the 32 bit version would make a difference?
[02:04] <smw> sammarks14, 32bit would not help X problems
[02:04] <sammarks14> well, i don't think it's an X problem
[02:04] <sammarks14> does X-server come installed on ubuntu?
[02:05] <sammarks14> i saw some x files, but no config files
[02:05] <smw> sammarks14, yes
[02:05] <sammarks14> hmm
[02:05] <smw> sammarks14, ubuntu does not have X config files
[02:05] <sammarks14> hm, that's not what i wanted to hear...
[02:05] <smw> sammarks14, I believe you can put them in if you want :-)
[02:05] <sammarks14> how would i do that?
[02:05] <sammarks14> by adding xorg.conf?
[02:06] <smw> sammarks14, I really think updating would help
[02:06] <smw> yeah
[02:06] <smw> sammarks14, but I have never done it
[02:06] <phragg> smw, how do you update if you can't get to the update
[02:06] <sammarks14> okay, ill update later, but first, i found this solution online. it says that i need to add: Option "NvAGP" "1" to the bottom of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:07] <git__> anyone has a kvm version of zimbra?
[02:07] <smw> phragg, text only mode. Assuming it is an X problem
[02:07] <sammarks14> should i try that?
[02:07] <sammarks14> smw: in text mode, it ran fine.
[02:07] <root52> Hey all. So man sshd_config says... "After the chroot, sshd(8) changes the working directory to the user's home directory." well that is not what I am seeing. When I did adduser --home /sftp/dropbox/ When I log in to sftp I get put into /sftp not /sftp/dropbox like the man page says. Any thought?
[02:07] <smw> sammarks14, I am explaining it to phragg
[02:07] <sammarks14> okay
[02:09] <babyeater> sammarks14: you can have X probe your video configuration and output a (probably fairly generic) config file by running Xorg -configure
[02:09] <phragg> there's no way through wubi to specify the version you want to install? it automatically gets it based on your CPU?
[02:09] <smw> !X
[02:09] <smw> useless...
[02:09] <sammarks14> smw: okay, i will do as you suggested and report if that worked or not
[02:09] <ARcan> uninstalling backports seem to do the trick
[02:10] <smw> sammarks14, thanks :-)
[02:10] <ARcan> weird thing was i had to install backports to get it to work on my home wireless
[02:10] <ARcan> ubuntu + wireless = :/
[02:10] <ARcan> night
[02:10] <smw> sammarks14, or you can use babyeater's idea
[02:10] <sammarks14> what's that?
[02:10] <smw> ARcan, ubuntu
[02:10] <babyeater>  babyeater: sammarks14: you can have X probe your video configuration and output a (probably fairly generic) config file by running Xorg -configure
[02:10] <phragg> ARcan, i think I spent a whole weekend trying to get ndiswrapper worked properly
[02:10] <sammarks14> oh, yeah
[02:10] <sammarks14> i was going to use that idea
[02:10] <sammarks14> lol
[02:11] <smw> ARcan, ubuntu + wireless = awesome compared to most distros
[02:11] <ARcan> i tend to never use ndiswrapper because once you mention it people say 'i cant help you'
[02:11] <ARcan> *shrug*
[02:11] <Nilos> Wicd won't see my wireless network, but I can see my wireless network when I do an iwlist in terminal.However, it fails to connect
[02:11] <smw> ARcan, I found it strait forward...
[02:12] <Kage> I have a question.  The kubuntu site lead me to on-disk.com as a place to buy the OS on disk.  However I ordered and paid for a DVD over 2 weeks ago, I have not got my disk though the mail, and I am unable to contact them by phone.   Has anyone else had bad dealings with this site?  If so is there a chance they can get black listed so others do not waste money.
[02:12] <smw> Kage, post on the ubuntu forums
[02:13] <ARcan> well, thanks anyways all
[02:13] <Gimped> Kage: sorry to hear; generally, it is safer & easier to download directly from distro sites
[02:14] <smw> Kage, is there a reason you can't download the cd version?
[02:15] <phragg> is there a reason when in grub i'll try to do boot (hd0,0) but says no kernel loaded?
[02:15] <Kage> smw: I have already downloaded it... after it didn't show up for a week I started to download (4 days straight :'( to download).  And I have it now
[02:15] <Kage> smw: I wanted to avoid having to download it due my Internet connection's poor speed
[02:16] <smw> Kage, fair enough. I suggest posting in the forums. The issue is that most people who would check there download the iso :-\
[02:16] <Gimped> Kage: you can usually find a torrent versions online that accommodates internet abnormalities
[02:17] <Kage> Gimped: yes, but again, 4 days of my Internet lagging out I figured it would be faster to have it shipped
[02:17] <Gimped> Kage: you can run the torrent while you sleep and pause it while you work during day
[02:18] <Gimped> Kage: just for future ref =)
[02:18] <Gimped> phragg: sorry not familiar with wubi =/
[02:19] <hylian> how do i put somehting in xchat's status window, since thats the only way nickserve can accept it... this is really dumb, there are already nick and password fields for both server and nickserve in the options... sorry, just mui mui frusttated
[02:19] <phragg> Does wubi generally Stay at 1/3rd download near 40hrs wait..? I could have sworn it was much quicker downloading it the first time >.> perhaps that's why it wno't work.
[02:19] <MaRk-I> hylian: if you mean to "identify" with xchat just edit it in your server configuration
[02:20] <hylian> mark guess what, that doesnt work. nickserve says ooh, um, that nick is already registered. then i type /msg NickServ identify (password) and then it says im identified.
[02:20] <sammarks14> okay, im on another computer
[02:20] <hylian> !nickserve
[02:20] <MaRk-I> hylian: hmm works here
[02:20] <sammarks14> when i typed xorg -config, it told me xorg was not a command
[02:21] <hylian> ubottu can't help me either lol
[02:21] <Gimped> sammarks14: you might have to run it as sudo or root
[02:21] <hylian> !nickserv
[02:21] <sammarks14> i did that too
[02:21] <sammarks14> still didnt work
[02:21] <Zed_> sammarks14: i think its X --configure
[02:22] <gio_gt> hylian: you don't have to set up a password for the IRC server, that's just for FreeNode staff
[02:22] <sammarks14> Zed_ let me try that
[02:22] <MaRk-I> hylian: where do you add the password?
[02:22] <Gimped> sammarks14: sudo X -configure <<< do that
[02:22] <sammarks14> Gimped: will do
[02:22] <hylian> gio i dont know if you are aware of this, but currently if you dont have a password, you cant connect to #ubuntu. it sends you instead to #ubuntu-unregistered or something like that
[02:23] <sammarks14> Fatal Server Error: Server is already active for display 0
[02:23] <babyeater> Xorg
[02:23] <babyeater> case sensitive
[02:23] <babyeater> sammarks14
[02:23] <sammarks14> okay
[02:23] <gio_gt> hylian: what I wanted to say is that you don't have to set a "server" password, you just have to identify using NickServ. I don't remember how you do it in XChat, though. But it's not the server password anyways
[02:23] <sammarks14> babyeater: same error.
[02:24] <sammarks14> Fatal Server error: server is already active for display 0
[02:24] <gio_gt> hylian: I mean, I don't know how you do it automatically on start using XChat, I don't use XChat, but I am searching now
[02:24] <sammarks14> and great
[02:24] <sammarks14> my computer just restarted again
[02:24] <babyeater> sammarks14: ctrl-alt-f7
[02:24] <sammarks14> let me try that
[02:24] <hylian> gio but i identified using xchat's "nickserv password" spot. so what am i doing wrong?
[02:24] <sammarks14> as soon as it gets booted again
[02:24] <babyeater> sammarks14... its telling you that X is running
[02:25] <hylian> i appreciate it gio, but i have searched for an hour.
[02:25] <sammarks14> babyeater: on the xterm screen?
[02:25] <babyeater> sounds like somehow you got to a virtual terminal
[02:25] <gio_gt> hylian: it's the NickServ password, that should be it
[02:25] <hylian> is my problem with xchat and nickserv possibly related to the ubuntu irc problem right now?
[02:25] <hylian> gio tried that, didnt work.
[02:25] <sammarks14> aha
[02:26] <sammarks14> ctrl-alt-f7 brought me to a screen
[02:26] <sammarks14> altough
[02:26] <hylian> gio_gt what do i put in the nickserv password section, just my password right? (i did that, doesnt work)
[02:26] <sammarks14> i didnt wait long enough for the terminal to start apparently
[02:27] <Gimped> sammarks14: thats a TTY screen, run that same command again (sudo X -configure)
[02:27] <sammarks14> well, okay
[02:27] <sammarks14> im sitting at the ubuntu desktop
[02:27] <sammarks14> in a GNOME session
[02:27] <sammarks14> i just pressed ctrl-alt-f7
[02:27] <sammarks14> and nothing happened
[02:28] <gio_gt> hylian: uhmmm strange. I used XChat years ago so unfortunately I don't remember how it works exactly, but it's the nickserv password. Maybe XChat tries to join the channel too soon, when you are not yet registered?
[02:28] <babyeater> sammarks: thats where that would bring you
[02:28] <sammarks14> however, i pressed ctrl-alt-f8 and it brought me to a black screen.
[02:28] <babyeater> exactly
[02:28] <babyeater> do ctrl-alt-f7 and it will bring you back
[02:28] <sammarks14> okay, start over. sorry.
[02:28] <gio_gt> hylian: normally the NickServ identification takes some seconds, and if your IRC client does not wait some seconds before joining the channels it can be a problem.
[02:28] <sammarks14> once i get to the GNOME desktop, i do what?
[02:29] <phragg> waiting for this wubi thing will not do... What do you guys recommend for a Bootable Disc burning software? PowerISO?
[02:29] <gio_gt> hylian: I suggest you try to ask in #xchat
[02:29] <phragg> hylian: what's the issue?
[02:29] <Gimped> phragg: brasero =)
[02:29] <babyeater> sammarks14: if you want to make an x config file, open a terminal and run sudo Xorg -configure
[02:29] <phragg> Gimped: for the Windows environment?
[02:29] <babyeater> or X, whatever
[02:29] <Gimped> phragg: nero =)
[02:30] <sammarks14> okay
[02:30] <phragg> Gimped: a lightweight software
[02:30] <sammarks14> okay, i got x-server turned off
[02:30] <sammarks14> instead
[02:30] <sammarks14> i pressed ctrl+alt+f6
[02:30] <sammarks14> and it brought me to a terminal
[02:30] <Gimped> phragg: hm...sorry lightweight and windows dont work in my vocab =/
[02:30] <hylian> for some reason i have to manually identify myself with nickserv even though that info was already given to xchat.
[02:30] <babyeater> sammarks14 if you're just trying to generate a config file, that's all you should have to do
[02:30] <babyeater> it doesnt matter where you do it
[02:31] <sammarks14> i typed "sudo Xorg -configure"
[02:31] <sammarks14> it came back saying the server is running
[02:31] <hylian> im going to try something, i will be right back
[02:31] <sammarks14> whats the delete command again?
[02:31] <sammarks14> yes, okay, new error
[02:31] <babyeater> sammarks14 ok, go to a terminal (not in gnome) and run sudo stop gdm
[02:32] <sammarks14> okay
[02:32] <sammarks14> it replied with "gdm stop/waiting"
[02:32] <sammarks14> excellent
[02:32] <sammarks14> that worked
[02:32] <sammarks14> it generated a config file now
[02:33] <mastercactapus> i have a quick question: are the repo servers (archive.ubuntu.com) under load or throttling downloads lately? ive been getting 50-150 kb/sec on a 10mbit connection :(
[02:34] <sammarks14> babyeater: it tells me my conf file is at /home/sammarks/xorg.conf.new, should i copy that file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[02:35] <sammarks14> and.. my computer has completely frozen again
[02:36] <sammarks14> that leads me to believe its not the graphics
[02:36] <allquixotic> Isn't there any tool I can use (preferably, graphical or web based) that will make bridged networking slightly less of a messy hassle for KVM guests? I hate playing around with brctl blah blah and breaking my host's networking etc.. it's a real pain.
[02:36] <sammarks14> btw, it works with windows 7 without issue
[02:37] <babyeater> sammarks14: sorry, missed the beginning of your problem
[02:37] <sammarks14> okay, so i got it to create a config file
[02:38] <sammarks14> it says its located at /home/sammarks/xorg.conf.new
[02:38] <sammarks14> do i move that to /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[02:38] <sammarks14> and second, when i was working in the terminal, my computer froze
[02:38] <sammarks14> i was not in GNOME
[02:39] <babyeater> sammarks 1: yes 2: are you sure X wasn't running?
[02:40] <sammarks14> #babyeater: well, i stopped the service...
[02:40] <sammarks14> i think
[02:41] <sammarks14> i said "sudo stop gdm"
[02:41] <babyeater> sammarks that should have been enough
[02:41] <sammarks14> it replied with "gdm stop/waiting"
[02:41] <sammarks14> it said "stop/waiting", was there any issue with the "waiting" part?
[02:42] <sammarks14> shouldnt it have just said stop?
[02:42] <babyeater> maybe
[02:42] <coz_> sammarks14,  if you want to be sure try   sudo  /etc/init.d/gdm  stop
[02:42] <sammarks14> okay
[02:42] <sammarks14> it redirected me to sudo service gdm stop
[02:42] <sammarks14> and that said the service was not running
[02:43] <TiK> question: should I recompile my kernel.. will it increase performance?
[02:43] <sammarks14> or really, "stop: unknown instance:"
[02:43] <coz_> sammarks14,  ok then you were successful :)
[02:43] <Gimped> TiK: only recompile if you know what you are absolutely doing, otherwise stick to the defaults
[02:43] <Nilos> I tried to connect using wicd and terminal, and my wireless adapter still cannot get an ip address
[02:44] <TiK> I can recompile a kernel...
[02:44] <sammarks14> well i got a whole bunch of errors when i closed the xorg.conf.new file, so i restarted :P
[02:44] <TiK> that doesnt answer my question thogh
[02:44] <TiK> :(
[02:44] <babyeater> sammarks14 what kind of errors?
[02:45] <sammarks14> something about a restart being required
[02:45] <Gimped> TiK: compiling a kernel may or may not improve performance; it depends on well aligned the kernel is to your hardware
[02:45] <sammarks14> i didnt really pay attention
[02:45] <coz_> sammarks14,  I came in late...what is it that you were trying to do originally/
[02:45] <babyeater> sammarks if you're troubleshooting something, paying attention is usually helpful
[02:45] <babyeater> :)
[02:45] <KE1HA> TiK, short answer yes, but, I would highly suggest doing so in a VM a few times first, and see how that systems reacts until your sure you have what you need  / want.
[02:46] <TiK> why would I do it in a vm?
[02:46] <sammarks14> yeah, lol
[02:46] <TiK> that doesnt make sense to me
[02:46] <sammarks14> well
[02:46] <sammarks14> it saved it this time
[02:46] <babyeater> sammarks i still don't know what your original issue waseither
[02:46] <TiK> KE1HA: doesnt a vm emulate all hardware?
[02:46] <sammarks14> my origional issue was that my ubuntu installation freezes randomly, about 2 minutes after logon
[02:46] <KE1HA> Tik, cuz if it crashes, you have a recovery path that's easy to manage.
[02:46] <TiK> ill just backup my files
[02:46] <sammarks14> the screen does not go black, however, there is no mouse response, no keyboard response, nothing.
[02:47] <TiK> and if it crashes ill copy themback or make anothr grub entery
[02:47] <coz_> sammarks14,   is this a laptop or desktop
[02:47] <TiK> im just chaing 1 option
[02:47] <sammarks14> desktop
[02:47] <TiK> the CPU
[02:47] <sammarks14> 64 bit 10.04 distro of ubuntu
[02:47] <coz_> sammarks14,  ok and you installed ubuntu lucid on this
[02:47] <coz_> sammarks14,  ok
[02:47] <sammarks14> or
[02:47] <sammarks14> it will act as if i hit a reset button sometimes
[02:47] <KE1HA> TiK, :-) ok, there ya go: http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[02:48] <sammarks14> the screen goes black, computer restarts
[02:48] <coz_> sammarks14,  first thing I would try is to insert the cd you burned and when the menu appaears...after choosing your languagle....choose the check cd for errors opton
[02:48] <coz_> language
[02:48] <sammarks14> i used wubi
[02:48] <coz_> sammarks14,  oh
[02:48] <coz_> sammarks14,   do you have windows installed on this system right now?
[02:48] <sammarks14> yes
[02:48] <KE1HA> TiK, grub has also changed in 10.04 as well.
[02:48] <coz_> sammarks14,  ok and is there a reason you didnt want to install ubuntu on its own partition?
[02:48] <sammarks14> windows 7 64 bit, functions just fine
[02:49] <sammarks14> would that make a difference?
[02:49] <sammarks14> the same issue happens even when i use a CD i believe
[02:49] <sammarks14> if i can remember correctly
[02:49] <sammarks14> wait
[02:49] <coz_> sammarks14,    well  several things to try first...download and burn the live cd for you system... make sure you burn it at 1x  or as close as possible
[02:49] <sammarks14> the errors came up again
[02:50] <sammarks14> its not really readable
[02:50] <sammarks14> just a bunch of codes
[02:50] <sammarks14> looks like a log
[02:50] <hylian> how very strange, all i had to do was type /server Freenode in the talk box below, and all of a sudden it worked. don't ask me why.
[02:50] <sammarks14> coz_ should i download the 32 bit or 64 bit version?
[02:50] <coz_> sammarks14,  eigher would work
[02:51] <coz_> sammarks14, either
[02:51] <hylian> thanks for the help.
[02:51] <ridin> how much ram
[02:51] <sammarks14> wait
[02:51] <coz_> sammarks14,  but tell me what you have as system memory ....the amount
[02:51] <sammarks14> "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 61s! [rsyslogd:884]"
[02:51] <sammarks14> 4GB DDR2
[02:52] <hylian> where are programs installed? in windows it's relatively easy, because they almost all in c:/program files/(name of program or manufacturer)
[02:52] <coz_> sammarks14,  ok with 32 bit cd and install ubuntu will only see 3.5 gigs of that memory...with 64 bit it will see and use it all
[02:52] <tensorpudding> hylian: /usr/bin is where most executables are
[02:52] <sammarks14> yeah, i knew that from windows
[02:52] <sammarks14> so i should go with 64 bit
[02:52] <coz_> sammarks14,  the functionality will not be diminished if you use 32 bit however
[02:52] <KE1HA> hylian, normally /usr/bin  or /usr/sbin
[02:53] <coz_> sammarks14,  I use 32 bit on my 64 bit system  here
[02:53] <tensorpudding> hylian: Linux filesytem hierarchy is much different than Windows, check out http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html say
[02:53] <sammarks14> alright
[02:53] <hylian> hey tens, i read once there is a command to tell you where, i think it was an apt command, anyone know what that was? (and thanks for the general infor, that does help a ton)
[02:53] <sammarks14> im going to boot windows and download the 64 bit version
[02:53] <gio_gt> hylian: as the people in #xchat told you, you should really consider using "xchat" instead of "xchat-gnome", they are two different applications, similars but not the same. "xchat" is better than "xchat-gnome".
[02:53] <coz_> sammarks14,  its your choice ... I personally didnt want to deal with any 64 bit issues that might arrise
[02:53] <KE1HA> hylian, use locate, which, whereis etc etc
[02:53] <sammarks14> well, thats true
[02:53] <tensorpudding> hylian: if you want to know where a file with "foo" in the naem is, you can use « locate foo »
[02:53] <gio_gt> hylian: you can check which one you have in Synaptic or in Ubuntu Software Center (or what it was called, anyways)
[02:54] <sammarks14> nvm, ill get 32 bit
[02:54] <turt1e> hylian:  and if for some reason you can't find it there, you can always go to Synaptics package manager,  do a search on the installed program you are looking for and then checking the "properties" on the it.
[02:54] <coz_> sammarks14,   I would be sure the windows install is completely defragged first  if you intend on installing this
[02:54] <hylian> gio_gt i assumed that since i am running gnome, that "xchat gnome" is the front end, am i wrong?
[02:54] <coz_> hylian, gnome xchat essentially sucks
[02:54] <sammarks14> i just defragged last night
[02:54] <coz_> hylian,   regular xchat is far superior
[02:54] <gio_gt> hylian: xchat is better. I never understood why they did xchat-gnome. Just use xchat, it works great in gnome, too.
[02:54] <hylian> ok will do, brb
[02:54] <Gimped> hylian: nope, xchat is a gui in and of itself
[02:54] <turt1e> hylian:  do you mean  the "which" command?
[02:56] <KE1HA> cchat is the original gtk and Gnome_Xchat is the port
[02:56] <KE1HA> xchat
[02:57] <gio_gt> well, I don't use xchat nor xchat-gnome, but that's another story
[02:57] <chkdsk> I tried to install the proprietary nvidia drivers for my graphics card and upon restarting I got a driver error. What should I do, I'm new-ish to linux
[02:57] <sammarks14> coz_ i don't have an option of the speed with the burner i have, but i can verify after burning.
[02:57] <coz_> sammarks14,  ok
[02:57] <coz_> sammarks14,  but when you actuallly run the live cd  choose check cd for errors before doing anything
[02:57] <sammarks14> okay
[02:59] <Nilos> I tried to connect using wicd and terminal, and my wireless adapter still cannot get an ip address
[02:59] <sammarks14> coz_ im also going to uninstall the wubi version.
[03:00] <coz_> sammarks14,  that is a wise decision
[03:00] <sammarks14> lol yeah
[03:00] <coz_> sammarks14,  then defrag  windows  and then start the live cd
[03:00] <sammarks14> coz_ but i just defragged, like, 8 hours ago...
[03:00] <Jordan_U> coz_: Defrag is not required before resizing ntfs.
[03:00] <coz_> sammarks14,  understood
[03:00] <sammarks14> okay
[03:00] <coz_> Jordan_U,  I understand
[03:01] <sammarks14> it is currently verifying the disc
[03:01] <KE1HA> chkdsk, how did you install the NV driver ?
[03:01] <sammarks14> thanks you guys, you're a whole lot of help
[03:01] <chkdsk> When I look into the nvidia X server settings it tells me to use `nvidia-xconfig` as root
[03:02] <coz_> sammarks14,  ok good luck with this ...if after the  check cd for errors on the ubuntu disk passes  you can either play around in the live cd or install it
[03:02] <chkdsk> KE1HA: xubuntu alerted me to a proprietary driver available, so I just installed it after I updated everything else then restarted
[03:02] <sammarks14> okay
[03:02] <sammarks14> coz_ will do
[03:03] <chkdsk> should I just do sudo nvidia-xconfig?
[03:03] <KE1HA> chkdsk, well the current drv is 195.36 which is probably what you installed w/restricted/
[03:04] <KE1HA> but ya need to find whihc was installed previous.
[03:04] <chkdsk> when I booted I was greeted by a black screen with a menu dead centre and a cross shaped curser
[03:04] <chkdsk> How do I find out?
[03:04] <hylian> i am registered, why am i in the unregged channel?
[03:05] <Izinucs> hylian: you're not
[03:05] <sammarks14> coz_ it didn't offer an option to verify contents
[03:05] <chkdsk> KE1HA: How do I find out what I installed previously?
[03:05] <sammarks14> it just jumped straight into the install
[03:05] <KE1HA> Im looking fer that
[03:06] <coz_> sammarks14,  really??  mm thats odd...did you download the live cd or minimal cd
[03:06] <chkdsk> Ah, okay sorry
[03:06] <sammarks14> uh
[03:06] <sammarks14> possibly the minimal cd
[03:06] <sammarks14> no
[03:06] <sammarks14> the live cd
[03:06] <sammarks14> because it offered me the option to try it
[03:06] <hylian> im not, thats what it says on top of xchat, hmm
[03:06] <coz_> sammarks14,   mm what options were avialable on the menu?
[03:06] <TiK> you can verify cd before boot
[03:07] <sammarks14> coz_ it looked like it was going to log me in, but then it showed the install
[03:07] <sammarks14> booted normally
[03:07] <coz_> sammarks14,  when this started did it ask you to choose a language?
[03:07] <sammarks14> yes
[03:07] <coz_> sammarks14, ok and the menu that followed   ...there were no choices?
[03:08] <sammarks14> on the languages menu, there were two choices - try and install.
[03:08] <sammarks14> i clicked install and it proceeded like the normal install
[03:08] <coz_> sammarks14,  ok
[03:08] <hylian> thanks izinucs
[03:09] <KE1HA> chkdsk, you can try to restore the defaults with: sudo update-rc.d -f nvidia-defaults
[03:09] <coz_> sammarks14,  well let it get through this  and see what happens...if the install is successful I think you will be happier...you will eventually come to the partitioning dialog... you want to install it along side window
[03:09] <KE1HA> correction:
[03:09] <KE1HA> sudp update-rc.d nvidia-kernel defaults
[03:09] <sammarks14> alright
[03:10] <KE1HA> or remove it completely with: sudo update-rc.d -f nvidia-kernel remove
[03:10] <chkdsk> "update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/nvidia-kernal: file does not exist"
[03:10] <itsux2bu> i got a background task running.. does ubuntu keep track how long its been running?
[03:10] <sammarks14> yeah, if i can get through the installer without it crashing
[03:10] <sammarks14> hopefully it wont overwrite my windows partition :P
[03:10] <sammarks14> i selected the install side by side feature
[03:10] <sammarks14> it had to resize the windows partition
[03:10] <coz_> sammarks14,  ok then it shouldnt overwrite windows
[03:10] <sammarks14> gives me 51GB, good enough
[03:11] <WillPittenger> Is there a good fstab editor that can add network connections?
[03:11] <Izinucs> WillPittenger: editor? you have to edit fstab by hand.. use gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[03:12] <Izinucs> !mount > WillPittenger
[03:12] <chkdsk> KE1HA: What should I do if I lack the nvidia-kernal files?
[03:13] <hylian> is there an ubuntu appreciation channel, or a like a ubuntu cafe, i can't seem to find it...
[03:13] <coz_> I am going to have to download the live cd to see what has changed :(
[03:13] <coz_> hylian,  mm  there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:14] <coz_> hylian,  let me check
[03:14] <sammarks14> coz_ good lord the resizing of the partition takes forever
[03:14] <sammarks14> it's not even at 1% yet.
[03:14] <coz_> sammarks14,  mm  how large is the hard drive?
[03:14] <sammarks14> 320GB
[03:14] <KE1HA> chkdsk, you need to get back to the nouveau driver as that's the defualt I dont use it so Im look'en up how to get you back there.
[03:15] <coz_> sammarks14,  well give it time
[03:15] <sammarks14> yeah, i won't dare touch this lol
[03:15] <Izinucs> hylian: on ubuntuforums.org there's a "cafe" channel or similar
[03:15] <sammarks14> i just move the mouse every so often to make sure it hasnt frozen on me
[03:15] <hylian> Izinucs for the point, thanx man
[03:16] <Izinucs> hylian: np :)
[03:16] <thune3> itsux2bu: start-time and used-processor-time are kept for each process
[03:16] <KE1HA> chkdsk, here's the how-too, it's too much to do line by line here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/NouveauEvaluation
[03:16] <coz_> hylian,  there is #club-ubuntu ... not sure what tha tis
[03:16] <hylian> thanx for looking coz_
[03:17] <hylian> ima check it out
[03:18] <sammarks14> coz_ computer restarted.
[03:18] <coz_> hylian,  are you using xchat?
[03:18] <KE1HA> chkdsk, and acording to this site, to use the NV drivers, you needed ot remove the nou driver first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:18] <coz_> sammarks14,  it restarted?  by itself?
[03:18] <sammarks14> yers.
[03:18] <sammarks14> yes.
[03:18] <sammarks14> in the middle of partitioning
[03:18] <coz_> sammarks14,  mmm that does not sound good   run the live cd again
[03:18] <coz_> sammarks14,   this time choose try
[03:18] <sammarks14> alright
[03:18] <hylian> coz_ yes, but not the xchat-gnome variety
[03:19] <coz_> sammarks14,  then click  the install icon on the desktop
[03:19] <sammarks14> okay
[03:19] <coz_> hylian,  just regular xchat?
[03:20] <coz_> hylian,  if this is regular xcaht ...go to   "Sever" menu    List of channels   type in  ubuntu and search
[03:20] <sammarks14> coz_ okay, im running the installer
[03:20] <sammarks14> from the desktop
[03:20] <sammarks14> nevermind
[03:20] <sammarks14> it restarted again
[03:21] <sammarks14> screen goes black, everyting stops, turns back on.
[03:21] <coz_> ok
[03:21] <hylian> coz- thanks man, and by the way club ubuntu is what i was looking for, thanks
[03:21] <coz_> hylian,  cool
[03:22] <sammarks14> im restarting again, but im beginning to notice a pattern.
[03:22] <coz_> sammarks14,  this should not be restarting just to go to the live cd Desktop
[03:22] <sammarks14> coz_ okay, its booting.
[03:23] <sammarks14> coz_ do you just want me to sit at the desktop?
[03:23] <WillPittenger> Izinucs: Does mount need the directory to already exist?  Or does it want the opposite.
[03:23] <coz_> sammarks14,  well I want to see if it does indeed actually get to the Desktop
[03:23] <sammarks14> okay
[03:23] <sammarks14> i just clicked the try button
[03:23] <coz_> sammarks14,  then you can use the  Install  Icon  that should be there on the desktop
[03:23] <sammarks14> alright
[03:23] <sammarks14> made the startup sound
[03:23] <sammarks14> screen still black
[03:24] <sammarks14> mouse shown
[03:24] <FloodBot1> sammarks14: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:24] <Izinucs> WillPittenger: when you mount something you typically mount it to a location.. create a directory in /media to mount your share to
[03:24] <sammarks14> desktop shown
[03:24] <sammarks14> toolbars shown
[03:24] <coz_> sammarks14,  ok
[03:24] <coz_> ahhhhh
[03:24] <sammarks14> ah
[03:24] <sammarks14> stupid flood
[03:24] <sammarks14> alright, im sitting at the desktop.
[03:24] <coz_> sammarks14,  yeah dont use  enter ...just type long sentences
[03:24] <sammarks14> yeah, lol ill remember that
[03:25] <coz_> sammarks14,  ok there should be an  "Install"  icon there
[03:25] <sammarks14> yes, there is.
[03:25] <sammarks14> computer froze.
[03:25] <coz_> sammarks14,  oooo
[03:25] <sammarks14> randomly. i'm telling you, its completely random.
[03:25] <sammarks14> i didn't even do anything
[03:25] <sammarks14> keyboard and mouse are unresponsive
[03:25] <bastid_raZor> sammarks14: it sounds like you have bad RAM
[03:25] <sammarks14> so should i do a memory check?
[03:26] <sammarks14> i did one in windows and it didn't find any errors.
[03:26] <coz_> sammarks14,  was there a test memory  option in the menu at all?
[03:26] <sammarks14> no
[03:26] <coz_> sammarks14,  where did you download the cd from do you h ave the link?
[03:26] <sammarks14> the main ubuntu.com site.
[03:27] <coz_> ok hold on sammarks14
[03:27] <sammarks14> i agree with bastid_raZor
[03:27] <sammarks14> i think it's my RAM.
[03:27] <bcbc2> sammarks14: when the cd first boots, you'll see a little keyboard icon appear at the bottom. Press any key and you'll get more options to check memory and the CD
[03:27] <sammarks14> okay
[03:27] <bastid_raZor> sammarks14: the fastest way to test is remove a stick then boot. if still havnig issues switch sticks then boot.
[03:27] <Izinucs> sammarks14: if you have two sticks of ram in your computer remove one and see if the problem persists.. if it does swap them and try again
[03:28] <bastid_raZor> the memtesk takes a fair bit of time and just pulling RAM out is much faster
[03:28] <coz_> sammarks14,  ah yes I forgot about that little keyboard icon
[03:28] <coz_> sammarks14,  please hit a key when you reboot to get menu options
[03:28] <sammarks14> okay
[03:28] <sammarks14> im selecting the test memory option
[03:28] <KE1HA> could be temps too.
[03:28] <coz_> sammarks14,  that would first choice  after that choose check cd
[03:29] <sammarks14> id ratherlet the computer test my memory than have to pull it out and unplug all that crap
[03:29] <the_file> hi I am traying to install aircrack
[03:29] <coz_> sammarks14,  well it could me memory... even cpu    I cant tell from this end...but alteast you have the test memory and check cd options to rule these out
[03:29] <the_file> Im trying to install iw-0.9.11
[03:30] <the_file> I get errors
[03:30] <sammarks14> yeah
[03:30] <the_file> http://pastebin.com/SrBiKj0U
[03:30] <sammarks14> it may be the CPU
[03:30] <sammarks14> i have a strong feeling it's the CPU
[03:30] <sammarks14> because when i put in the new CPU, i rubbed thermal paste from the old one onto it
[03:30] <KE1HA> sammarks14, does this problem happen if you sittign in a console screen also ?
[03:30] <coz_> sammarks14,  first thing;'s  first  see what memory test reports
[03:30] <sammarks14> it runs at 74 degrees, even at 100%
[03:30] <sammarks14> so i don't see a problem with it
[03:30] <sammarks14> im currently running the memory test
[03:30] <Aliselyn> KE1HA and Jordan_U: I'm back
[03:31] <KE1HA> Hello Aliselyn
[03:31] <WillPittenger> Izinucs: I thought that md would create a blank directory.  But it can't find any such command.  Is there a way to run a file explorer as root?
[03:31] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Do you have the output from lspci?
[03:31] <Aliselyn> yes
[03:31] <sammarks14> oh my
[03:31] <sammarks14> how many tests are there?
[03:32] <headkase314> WillPittenger, use "mkdir" to make a directory in the console.  Use "sudo" in front of it it you need permissions.
[03:32] <KE1HA> a bunch
[03:32] <Izinucs> WillPittenger: in /media you can .. sudo mkdir <your_choice>
[03:32] <sammarks14> joy...
[03:32] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: just post it here?
[03:32] <sammarks14> this'll be an all-nighter
[03:32] <WillPittenger> Never mind.  I thought of sudo dolphin.
[03:32] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: No.
[03:32] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Aliselyn
[03:32] <coz_> sammarks14,  well if you mean the memory test ...let it complete
[03:32] <sammarks14> coz_ should i make a forum post?
[03:32] <Aliselyn> how then?
[03:32] <sammarks14> so i can post on it tomorrow morning when it's complete.
[03:32] <coz_> sammarks14,  about what?
[03:32] <sammarks14> this issue
[03:33] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: See the message from ubottu.
[03:33] <Aliselyn> I meant the url
[03:33] <coz_> sammarks14,  we are not sure what the  issue is yet
[03:33] <sammarks14> okay
[03:33] <sammarks14> nevermind then
[03:33] <thune3> sammarks14: each test in memtest checks all of memory, and the tests get progressively more esoteric as you go along. Any errors will be listed in the blank area. You don't have to let it run all the way, but confidence increases if you do.
[03:33] <sammarks14> okay
[03:33] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/rvWMTcx1
[03:34] <sammarks14> coz_ im just saying, if i have to go, how are we going to continue troubleshooting the problem?
[03:34] <bastid_raZor> sammarks14: so far you have determined nothing. :|
[03:34] <sammarks14> yeah
[03:34] <sammarks14> ive tried multiple things, but really determined nothing
[03:34] <coz_> sammarks14, well  there will be many here who can help  and I know I will most likely be here  tomorrow as will many that are here now :)
[03:34] <sammarks14> okay
[03:35] <sammarks14> this is my first time using this IRC, so im not too sure
[03:35] <sammarks14> i was planning on taking it to geek squad :P
[03:35] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: I don't see any dial up modem in that output, is this a USB modem?
[03:35] <coz_> sammarks14,  right....well... until we have some idea what the problem is  there is nothing to report :)
[03:35] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: no, there really is a dialup modem
[03:35] <sammarks14> well, i know the symptoms of the problem
[03:36] <coz_> sammarks14,  yes  .... did you search google or the forum for similar reports?
[03:36] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: it's built-in
[03:36] <sammarks14> yes
[03:36] <sammarks14> for 2 days
[03:36] <sammarks14> absolutely nothing.
[03:36] <coz_> sammarks14,  oh !
[03:36] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, what laptpo model is this
[03:36] <KE1HA> laptop
[03:37] <WillPittenger> Izinucs: It works.  Thanks.  One problem: su doesn't work.  I think it might be a password issue.  Is there a default password?
[03:37] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: Sony Vaio Model number PCG-7K1L
[03:37] <Jordan_U> !root | WillPittenger
[03:37] <Izinucs> WillPittenger: su isn't used.. sudo is.. password is the one you log in with.  sudo gives temporary root privilidges for the command you want to initiate
[03:37] <coz_> WillPittenger,  well you can create a root password... with   sudo passwd root    <<, I will get great flack for saying that :)
[03:38] <Random832> WillPittenger: just use sudo, and ignore coz_
[03:38] <coz_> :)
[03:38] <Random832> sudo -s or sudo -i on the off chance you really need a root shell session
[03:38] <Izinucs> coz_: that's the wrong way to do it anyway
[03:39] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: it's an old laptop
[03:39] <itsux2bu> the diff between  sudo -s and sudo -i?
[03:39] <coz_> Izinucs,  mm always worked for me  but  fine   I wont bring it up in the future
[03:39] <Random832> itsux2bu: if you don't know, use -s
[03:39] <sammarks14> coz_ do you think if it was the CPU, it would freeze the memory test as weel?
[03:39] <sammarks14> well*
[03:39] <Izinucs> itsux2bu: the diff is .. jklmnopqr
[03:40] <itsux2bu> oh that was lame
[03:40] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, that's fine, Im just looking for the Modem Options
[03:41] <Izinucs> itsux2bu: but kinda fun :)
[03:41] <sammarks14> coz_ well, im going to go for the night while this works
[03:41] <sammarks14> goodnight all
[03:41] <Izinucs> bb
[03:42] <KE1HA> Jordan_U, Here's the Modem Info: http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu-download.pl?mdl=PCGTR3AP1&upd_id=1387&os_id=7
[03:44] <Nilos> I tried to connect using wicd and terminal, and my wireless adapter still cannot get an ip address
[03:47] <lord_mezry> the flash player installed cannot access my webcam
[03:47] <lord_mezry> how do i update my flash player
[03:47] <syn-ack> it may not be the webcam
[03:47] <syn-ack> rather the flash player
[03:48] <lord_mezry> syn-ack: how do i update the flash player
[03:48] <syn-ack> ok, be that way
[03:48] <syn-ack> lord_mezry: go to Adobe's site.
[03:48] <xangua> how did you install it¿
[03:48] <xangua> lord_mezry*
[03:48] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, I think I found what You need.
[03:48] <lord_mezry> xangua: from my local repo
[03:48] <syn-ack> Then there you go
[03:49] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, what was the output from uname -r again ?
[03:49] <syn-ack> Now, are you going to listen to me, lord_mezry?
[03:49] <lord_mezry> syn-ack: okay
[03:49] <xangua> lord_mezry: are you using a 64bit OS¿
[03:50] <syn-ack> lord_mezry: There'res times, baring what xangua is getting at that something in your distro... a security framework gets a little too happy to lock down somethings
[03:50] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: 2.6.32-21-generic
[03:50] <Nilos> I tried to connect using wicd and terminal, and my wireless adapter still cannot get an ip address
[03:51] <xangua> Nilos: what's wrong with network-manager¿
[03:51] <syn-ack> lord_mezry: can you access your webcam from another app, like Cheese?
[03:51] <xangua> i mean, does it work with it¿ there was some reason to change to wicd¿
[03:52] <lord_mezry> syn-ack: actually i wanted use it for video chat. i have cheese and it works fine
[03:52] <syn-ack> Good good
[03:52] <wea0> What's the reason for having dramatically decreased game performance in wine after updating karmic->lucid?
[03:52] <syn-ack> So we know that apparmors not getting in the way of the device it's self
[03:53] <lord_mezry> syn-ack: actually pidgin does not support video chats in msn
[03:53] <syn-ack> lord_mezry: Have you changed any default apparmor settings?
[03:53] <tucemiux> ok guys so im wondering if there's any utilities that will allow you to monitor the temperature on all sensors available on your machine??
[03:53] <lord_mezry> syn-ack: no i have changed nothing
[03:53] <syn-ack> Good
[03:53] <xangua> tucemiux: lm-sensors ¿
[03:53] <rooks> how to setup default qt colors?
[03:54] <tucemiux> xangua, have you tried in your machine?  does it work? last time I tried i had no success
[03:54] <syn-ack> lord_mezry: now, as xangua asked, are you running the 64 bit release of Ubuntu or the 32 bit?
[03:54] <xangua> rooks: have you tried asking in #kubuntu ¿
[03:54] <lord_mezry> syn-ack: 64 bit
[03:54] <xangua> lord_mezry: that's the problem :S
[03:54] <syn-ack> yep
[03:54] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: may I ask what your solution is?
[03:54] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Well, the hight the binary compiled modules go is 2.6.31.17 so you can try that module, or have a go at compiling it.
[03:54] <lord_mezry> xangua: ??
[03:55] <rooks> xangua, nope, i run ubuntu with some apps that use qt
[03:55] <KE1HA> whopps highest
[03:55] <Aliselyn> oh
[03:55] <lord_mezry> syn-ack:  why??
[03:55] <syn-ack> lord_mezry: I'm going to have to suggest that you downgrade to the 32 bit version since adobe pulled the 64 bit Flashplayer
[03:55] <lord_mezry> syn-ack:  ohh
[03:55] <xangua> rooks: install qt4-qtconfig to make qt apps use your gtk theme or to custom it
[03:55] <syn-ack> and really the 32 bit flash player barely works in the 64 bit release
[03:56] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: where did you find this?
[03:56] <rooks> xangua, thanks
[03:56] <lord_mezry> syn-ack: hmm
[03:56] <lord_mezry> syn-ack: maybe  i will downgrade
[03:56] <syn-ack> lord_mezry: and again really, the opensource flashplayers such beyond belief
[03:56] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/archive/hsfmodem-7.80.02.06full/hsfmodem_7.80.02.06full_k2.6.31_17_generic_ubuntu_i386.deb.zip
[03:56] <oxidkor> Hello - I have a question - where should I look in the file system where I could find my mozilla firefox's bookmarks?
[03:56] <lord_mezry> syn-ack: xangua thnx
[03:57] <syn-ack> KE1HA: is that still killing PulseAudio like it was?
[03:57] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, then: $ sudo dpkg -i hsfmodem*.deb
[03:57] <KE1HA> syn-ack, no idea, this is a modem issue.
[03:57] <thune3> wea0: you have proprietary drivers installed? did you have wine ppa in karmic but not lucid? (just guessing)
[03:57] <thune3> wea0: ^video drivers
[03:58] <syn-ack> KE1HA: yeah, I know. When I had installed that driver a while back it killed pulse bad
[03:58] <phragg> [Q] Would anyone be able to point me in a direction to locate the module for an HP Pavillion dv6 Wireless driver? Or at least a repository of Modules on Ubuntu 10.04
[03:58] <xangua> oxidkor: /home/youruser/.mozilla/firefox/yourprofile/places.sqlite
[03:58] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, then to check it's installed:  sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf
[03:58] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: Thanks, hope this works
[03:58] <oxidkor> xangua: so thanks
[03:58] <KE1HA> I dont know syn-ack were just trying to get the modem to go, at the moment.
[03:59] <syn-ack> ah
[03:59] <syn-ack> KE1HA: be aware then, that that's something to look for
[03:59] <KE1HA> rr
[03:59] <syn-ack> KE1HA: wont be hard to miss. heh
[03:59] <Aliselyn> will do
[03:59] <wea0> thune3: I have latest nvidia.com drivers (256.44), I have wine 1.3 compiled from source, exact same revision I used before the update.
[03:59] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, if it failes, this its compile time
[04:00] <KE1HA> then it's compile ..
[04:00] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: I hope it doesn't come to that :)
[04:00] <Aliselyn> no worries, I understood you
[04:00] <KE1HA> wea0, 1.3 is Dev right ?
[04:01] <wea0> KE1HA: Yes it is.
[04:01] <KE1HA> 1.1.42 is the latest stable (I think)
[04:01] <oxidkor> xangua: how could I open .sqlite extension?
[04:06] <iluminator101> problem: could not update authority there is a problem with the configuration server there is a problem with the configuration server /usr/lib/libcconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256
[04:06] <oxidkor> does anyone know how I could open .sqlite extension file?
[04:07] <forester> Hi how can I add to sudo's $PATH? I have the icc compiler installed and put it in the user's path, but I need to do a "sudo make install" and the compiler can not be found. Thanks!
[04:08] <iluminator101> what the short key to logout in ubuntu
[04:09] <KE1HA> iluminator101, try: chmod 775 /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.system
[04:09] <nimbiotics> hello everyone. I'm having issues trying to share a couple of folders with samba in ubuntu 10.04: It just doesnt work. I cant even see myself in the network. Can I please get some help? TIA!
[04:10] <wea0> What's the reason for having dramatically decreased game performance in wine after updating karmic->lucid? (I am using the same wine version as before)
[04:10] <Jordan_U> forester: Easiest way is to run: sudo PATH="/whatever/bin/:$PATH" make install
[04:11] <xangua> !appdb | wea0
[04:12] <xangua> oxidkor: witu OO base¿ why do you need to open fx places¿
[04:12] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: when I ran sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf it said command not found
[04:13] <oxidkor> zangua: I need to backup my firefox bookmarks - that's why...
[04:13] <oxidkor> sorry *xangua
[04:13] <forester> Jordan_U: thanks. Do you know of a more permanent fix?
[04:13] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, was that after: sudo dpkg -i hsfmodem*.deb
[04:13] <Aliselyn> yes
[04:13] <xangua> oxidkor: then just use the bookmarks manager in fx
[04:13] <Aliselyn> oh
[04:14] <oxidkor> xangua: what do you mean by fx?
[04:14] <oxidkor> firefox?
[04:14] <xangua> firefox
[04:14] <oxidkor> oh ok
[04:14] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, try to reboot the system then: sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf    again.
[04:14] <oxidkor> thanks alot
[04:15] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, but first, you did nzip the deb file and iit installed wiht/out errors ?
[04:15] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: it says at the end of running sudo dpkg -i hsfmodem*.deb that "please obtain the appropriate variant of this package for your system or try the generic DEB or tar version
[04:15] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Ok.
[04:15] <KE1HA> That the Kernel diffrence problem. lets try the generic, then worst case :-) compile.
[04:16] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, heres the generic: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/archive/hsfmodem-7.80.02.06full/hsfmodem_7.80.02.06full_k2.6.31_17_generic_ubuntu_i386.deb.zip
[04:17] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: that's the one you sent me before
[04:17] <KE1HA> The TAR version is what we'll have to compile if the generic.deb fails.
[04:17] <Aliselyn> I don't mind compiling
[04:18] <KE1HA> Oh, I sent the generic, Hmmm, I'd recmend the compile, SRI, abt that.
[04:18] <KE1HA> here's the Comiple instructions.: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/install.php
[04:19] <KE1HA> Method C is the probably the best, but you could try the DEB methind is you want.
[04:20] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, and here's the tar.gz file download: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/archive/hsfmodem-7.80.02.06full/hsfmodem-7.80.02.06full.tar.gz
[04:21] <Aliselyn> thanks
[04:21] <Aliselyn> sorry I'm so helpless :)
[04:21] <iluminator101> KE1HA, i was able log in gnome using chown -R to user:user but not home folder was encrypted i cant open it
[04:21] <Tobarja> i'm having a brain fart... what's the cmdline app that runs a command based on stdin plus your format string?
[04:22] <Jordan_U> KE1HA: Aliselyn: Instead of "make install" you probably want to run "make debprecomp" to make a .deb package for your current kernel. .deb packages are easier to remove afterward.
[04:22] <iluminator101> KE1HA,  all this happened b/z apt update did a kernel update and it didnt finish the memory test it stopped in the middle of it....
[04:22] <bastid_raZor> you could even replace make debprecomp with checkinstall
[04:22] <bastid_raZor> !checkinstall
[04:23] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, there's another issue with this also, to get faster than 14.4 speeds, you ahve to buy a License .. :-(
[04:24] <nimbiotics> hello everyone. I'm having issues trying to share a couple of folders with samba in ubuntu 10.04: It just doesnt work. I cant even see myself in the network. Can I please get some help? TIA!
[04:24] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: really? hmm....
[04:24] <Jordan_U> KE1HA: Any idea why the modem isn't showing up in lspci? I think any driver is doomed to fail if the hardware isn't even listed in lspci.
[04:25] <Tobarja> ah ha! xargs
[04:25] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: that might not be a problem so much.... I'm only really connecting at 24k, and it's not even running that fast
[04:26] <KE1HA> iluminator101, Apparently a Bug on this issue, several things have corrected it for different folks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf/+bug/269215
[04:26] <syn-ack> Jordan_U: because it's part of the sound card.
[04:27] <KE1HA> Jordan_U, No, I dont and it is a worry Aliselyn Are you sure the modem is enabled in the BIOS ?
[04:27] <fross> Hey, I got a netgear WNDA3100v2 I have been trying to get it running for a few hours now. I have installed the drivers via ndiswrapper but the device is still not seed in ifconfig. It does show up however when i lsmod
[04:27] <Jordan_U> syn-ack: Ahh, that makes sense.
[04:27] <KE1HA> syn-ack, Ahh, that would be a good reason why.
[04:27] <syn-ack> Jordan_U: you're probably gonna need the same driver Aliselyn had to get if it's a laptop
[04:28] <Jordan_U> syn-ack: I was asking since it didn't show up in what Aliselyn pastebin'd, I don't have the hardware myself.
[04:28] <syn-ack> ah yeah
[04:28] <syn-ack> That's why tho
[04:28] <Aliselyn> KE1HA, it should be
[04:28] <KE1HA> syn-ack, here's her pastebin: http://pastebin.com/rvWMTcx1
[04:28] <Jordan_U> syn-ack: ack :)
[04:28] <Aliselyn> it was working fine on XP
[04:28] <KE1HA> rr
[04:29] <Aliselyn> how do I check in the BIOS?
[04:29] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: I don't think it's actually a problem. syn-ack explained that it's not showing up in lspci as a modem because it's part of the sound card.
[04:30] <KE1HA> If it was working in Windows, it's enabled Aliselyn
[04:30] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: I think I remember seeing that somewhere, but passed over it
[04:30] <iluminator101> KE1HA, i was able to log back in to gnome but home directory is empy?
[04:30] <iluminator101> empty?
[04:30] <syn-ack> yeah, mine and 99% of the modems in laptops are like that
[04:31] <KE1HA> iluminator101, did you see the link I sent, there's a bug surrounding this issue.
[04:31] <iluminator101> yea i am looking into it
[04:31] <syn-ack> Aliselyn: Do you really *need* the modem?
[04:31] <KE1HA> iluminator101, that's about the extent of my knowledge to fix it.
[04:31] <Aliselyn> syn-ack: it's my only way of connecting
[04:31] <syn-ack> ah
[04:32] <syn-ack> Then I guess you do
[04:32] <KE1HA> syn-ack, abd before anyone askes, I have no!! Idea how to internet Connection Share w/Modems :-)
[04:32] <Aliselyn> syn-ack: the only other way would be waiting until college starts back up and somehow getting it connected to the shoddy wireless
[04:33] <shawnboy> anybody here ever get Empathy working with audio and video? I'm trying. Have video but no audio.
[04:33] <syn-ack> Aliselyn: Did you use the Scanmodem script they have on their site first?
[04:33] <malfeas> Hello.
[04:34] <malfeas> Is there a PPA for vim 7.3?
[04:34] <Aliselyn> syn-ack: I have
[04:34] <syn-ack> Aliselyn: And it found your chipset?
[04:34] <Aliselyn> I can't remember, let me run it again
[04:35] <k0d3g3ar> ok
[04:35] <Aliselyn> syn-ack: what do I need to look for?
[04:35] <sensae> Hello, I just compiled a shared library corona, and I've  verified it's at /usr/local/lib/libcorona-1.0.2.so. When I try  to run an application depending on this shared library, it  complains it can't find it.
[04:37] <KE1HA> syn-ack, Jst saw this on the site too: ote to Ubuntu Jaunty (9.04), Hardy (8.04) and SUSE (11.0, 11.1) users with HDA modems: Installing the alsa-driver-linuxant package is necessary before installing this driver.
[04:37] <syn-ack> yep
[04:38] <KE1HA> syn-ack, And there's patched for 2.6.29 Kernels !! may, opandora's box this one is.
[04:38] <doctorZeus> If I'm looking at the installation documentation for a piece of software and it doesn't list ubunut or an apt-get, am I safe using the debian package?
[04:39] <gonzolively>  hello all, i have a small favor, i've been looking all over the internet and I've yet to find a way to sucessfully mount my ftp drive (ntfs) with read/write permissions, any advise?
[04:39] <syn-ack> KE1HA: hold on, I'm going to install it myself
[04:40] <doctorZeus> gonzolively: I used this and I had an ntfs drive mounted in no time flat https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:40] <KE1HA> doctorZeus, In most cases yes, but not all. Ubuntu is based on Debian so using .deb usually does not cause to much trouble. Updates can be a problem though.
[04:41] <nimbiotics> hello everyone. I'm having issues trying to share a couple of folders with samba in ubuntu 10.04: It just doesnt work. I cant even see myself in the network. Can I please get some help? TIA!
[04:41] <gonzolively> doctorZeus: thanks bro
[04:41] <doctorZeus> np..and thanks ke1ha
[04:43] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: tar -xzf hsfmodem-{version}.tar.gz didn't do anything
[04:44] <Aliselyn> syn-ack: according to the modem data info from scanmodem, what would my chipset info look like?
[04:44] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, what's the actual file name?
[04:45] <Aliselyn> hsfmodem-7.80.02.06full1.tar.gz (I ran it as that, and just copied what I showed you from linuxant)
[04:46] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, tar -xzf hsfmodem-7.80.02.06full.tar.gz
[04:46] <nimbiotics> guys, in ubuntu I can switch  between users using ctrl-alt-F7/F8, how can I do this in xubuntu?
[04:46] <syn-ack> Aliselyn: that's probably it then
[04:46] <syn-ack> or
[04:46] <syn-ack> gunzip
[04:46] <syn-ack> ;)
[04:46] <KE1HA> then cd to ./hsf.. .. ..
[04:46] <Aliselyn> gunzip by....
[04:46] <Aliselyn> ?
[04:46] <KE1HA> gunzip works too :-)
[04:46] <syn-ack> KE1HA: you know they have an installer for this?
[04:46] <KE1HA> Yeah, we tried it, and it failed.
[04:47] <KE1HA> but it's not for the Kernel version she has.
[04:47] <fross> Does anyone know a specific dual band N adapter that works well under ubuntu?
[04:47] <KE1HA> its for 31.17
[04:47] <syn-ack> KE1HA: I'm giving that a shot real quick
[04:48] <KE1HA> fross, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[04:48] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: That should work in Xubuntu as well.
[04:48] <sacarlson> aliselyn:  wow I think I used to use that modem.  I even had a licence for it I paid $14 for the licence.  The only paid software ever on linux.
[04:48] <Aliselyn> sacarlson: seriously?
[04:48] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: thanks
[04:48] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: You're welcome.
[04:48] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: I think so
[04:49] <Aliselyn> lucky me
[04:49] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: it was so long ago I wonder how you get the number again.
[04:50] <syn-ack> hrm
[04:50] <KE1HA> sacarlson, Aliselyn Lics: https://www.linuxant.com/store/index.php
[04:50] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: i dnt use xubuntu, im asking it for someone who doesnt speak english
[04:50] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: I still have the modem in the closet not used anymore
[04:50] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: yes that's the place
[04:50] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: There are IRC channels for most major languages.
[04:50] <syn-ack> Aliselyn: Did the web installer hang for you too?
[04:50] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: since I no longer use my license I guess I could give it to you.
[04:51] <Jordan_U> !english | nimbiotics
[04:51] <KE1HA> 20 bucks, ontop f all this pain :-)
[04:51] <Aliselyn> sacarlson: you're an angel if you still have it
[04:51] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: last time I used it I think it was hooked to my email address
[04:52] <Aliselyn> and no way of changing the email address?
[04:52] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, send syn-ack a PM, he may be able to help too.
[04:52] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: it required a compile to get it to work.  it also has fax
[04:53] <Aliselyn> syn-ack: web installer? do you mean the deb?
[04:54] <KE1HA> that's where we are at now, the dreaded "compile" stage.
[04:54] <Izinucs> Aliselyn: if you're feeling like something new that "just works" check out http://www.usr.com/products/modem/modem-product.asp?sku=USR5637
[04:54] <Aliselyn> Izinucs: I can't afford that kind of modem, otherwise I'd use one
[04:55] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: wow they have more stuff now I'm not sure how to get the license key for what I already have.
[04:55] <Izinucs> Aliselyn: they use to be $50 but I've seen them on the web for $36
[04:55] <Aliselyn> still more money than I have
[04:56] <nimbiotics> hello everyone. I'm having issues trying to share a couple of folders with samba in ubuntu 10.04: It just doesnt work. I cant even see myself in the network. Can I please get some help? TIA!
[04:56] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: no with the email address they send you a new key file
[04:56] <KE1HA> nimbiotics, what have you tried thus far ?
[04:56] <dexi> Hey all. I turned my computer on today and my theming in metacity (i think) the "appearance" under prefs... It was all reset. As soon as I opened up the settings, most of everything changed back, but some windows are still on the basic blocky grey theme
[04:57] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: why buy when you already have
[04:57] <oxidkor> hello - I was studying the LinuxCBT videos and they are all rpm based - so for instance when I give the command rpm -q man like the instructor says in the video, my lucid box does not give me the correct outcome - what should I do? I dont wanna switch to fedora or red hat just because of that...
[04:58] <KE1HA> install alien
[04:58] <nimbiotics> KE1HA: Honestly, everything I've been told and ive read on the net. Im going nuts already
[04:58] <KE1HA> oxidkor, NVM, tha'ts a converter pkg, that wont emulate RPM sri.
[04:58] <abhijit> Good Motning!
[04:59] <abhijit> ahh
[04:59] <abhijit> Morning*
[04:59] <KE1HA> nimbiotics, so you have Samba sn smbfs installed and running then yes ?
[04:59] <Izinucs> nimbiotics: I had samba working great on 9.10 but 10.04 is giving me headaches
[04:59] <KE1HA> Samba and smbfs
[05:00] <oxidkor> KE1HA: so which command should I give instead rpm -q man for instance in ubuntu?
[05:00] <Izinucs> oxidkor: what is that command suppose to do?
[05:00] <bindi> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1PykOXo2c5I/TGoDeyJ20bI/AAAAAAAAAaA/5Ms5WBZHzv8/s1600/ryan-desktop.png <- what is the name of these widgets?
[05:00] <KE1HA> oxidkor, nvm, it wont wotk, Alien is an RPM package converter.
[05:00] <laptopfreek0> hay guys quick question. When I am at the login screen my mouse works, but as soon as i login it quits working... Any ideas?
[05:00] <chkdsk> Gonna copypaste something from the unregged channel
[05:01] <chkdsk> I'm attempting to run Steam on xfce/wine. Earlier I attempted this and steam worked absolutely perfectly. I didn't have space (using a wubi-install on 10.04) for any of the games (didn't know of symbolic links at the time) so I backed up my files and deleted my install. I then reinstalled ubuntu, reinstalled xfce and worked out wine etc. Now when I try out steam it's incredibly slow and text takes 5 seconds or so to register
[05:01] <oxidkor> KE1HA: so I should install it like sudo apt-get Alien?
[05:02] <KE1HA> oxidkor, if you want to convert RPM packages to .deb, yes that will do it.
[05:02] <laptopfreek0> oxidkor: sudo apt-get install ...
[05:02] <oxidkor> ok
[05:02] <doctorZeus> oxidkor: apt-get and rpm are similar in operation but far different in syntax.. if I were you I would load fedora in a VM
[05:02] <nimbiotics> KE1HA: I think I do, but ive also been having the samba service being stoped And Ive read about windows 7 (my client) stopping the service if not prperoly configured. I've followed the instructions to avoid that too but as of this moment and being a noob as I am, I dont know whats working and whats not. Im very, very, very close to giving up, and going back to xp
[05:02] <doctorZeus> today it's rpm doesn't work tomorrow the directory doesn't exist..etc
[05:02] <doctorZeus> use what the instructor is using
[05:02] <KE1HA> oxidkor, but it's not an RPM emulator, meaning, RPM commands dont translate to .deb commands
[05:02] <oxidkor> doctorZeus: hmmm ok
[05:03] <oxidkor> KE1HA: so you mean that in order to continue learning LinuxCBT based on red-hat , I should install fedora?
[05:03] <Izinucs> oxidkor: easy enough to load up the OS the instructor is using in virtualbox
[05:03] <KE1HA> nimbiotics, have a read of this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1468498
[05:04] <red2kic> bindi: Conky
[05:04] <KE1HA> oxidkor, If you have a Class on a specific Linux Distribution, you should use that distribution, however, you can install VirtualBox in Ubuntu, then use it to install whatever Fedora Distro you need.
[05:04] <nimbiotics> KE1HA: checking it out...
[05:05] <ortsvorsteher> i still have a problem to run sound an my laptop with an hda intel soundcard. is it possible to use the proprietaery driver?
[05:05] <chkdsk> Can anyone help me with my wine/steam problem?
[05:05] <IdleOne> chkdsk: #winehq
[05:06] <oxidkor> KE1HA: thanks alot
[05:06] <KE1HA> welcome
[05:06] <slidinghorn> I have a quick question...if I'm setting up a USB as instructed on the Netbook Edition download page, do I have to use a blank USB stick, or will it work as long as it has 2gb free?
[05:06] <bindi> now what are those addons for Firefox that make it minimalistic
[05:07] <hiku> slidinghorn: blank would be better. so you don't loose any data that may be on the usb stick
[05:07] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: I found my license key I was able to login to linuxant to get it.  not sure if it will work with what you have but if you want to try it pm me.  also try it at 14k first to see if it works to start.
[05:07] <red2kic> slidinghorn: Blank -- It'll use all resources on your USB, I think. 2GB is fine. -- Just make backups first.
[05:07] <Izinucs> slidinghorn: depends.. do those instructions include formatting the usb.. if so then of course the data will go by by
[05:07] <KE1HA> bindi, http://nicht.untergeord.net/wordpress/index.php/2008/04/22/minimalists-firefox-%E2%80%93-gui-tweaks/
[05:07] <Aliselyn> sacarlson: if I get it working on 14k, then I'll pm you about it
[05:07] <slidinghorn> hiku:  red2kic & Izinucs ok...I backed it all up anyway, so I can just clear the stick & put everything back when I'm done
[05:07] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: good plan
[05:08] <KE1HA> +1 on the Aliselyn pna to get it workign first, then pay :-)
[05:08] <Aliselyn> :) thanks, and thanks for offering
[05:08] <KE1HA> Have you compiled the DVR yet ?
[05:08] <bindi> KE1HA: not minifox not available for 3.6.6
[05:09] <ortsvorsteher> i still have a problem to run sound an my laptop with an hda intel soundcard. is it possible to use the proprietaery driver?
[05:09] <KE1HA> bindi, maybe this one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/215443/
[05:10] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: was the DVR comment directed at me or another?
[05:10] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Yes, have you compiloed the driver yet ?
[05:10] <KE1HA> *compiled
[05:11] <Aliselyn> umm, how would I used gzip for it, since tar -xzf didn't work?
[05:11] <Aliselyn> *use
[05:12] <KE1HA> gunzip
[05:12] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: wasn't a deb file an option?
[05:12] <Aliselyn> it didn't work
[05:12] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: oh ok didn't see that
[05:12] <KE1HA> sacarlson, no, wrong kernel ver .. it's for 31.17. she's on a later Kernel
[05:12] <sacarlson> KE1HA: oh I thought even the deb compiled
[05:13] <KE1HA> or tar -xzf hsfmodem-7.80.02.06full.tar.gz should work Aliselyn
[05:14] <KE1HA> either way, it's a compile.
[05:14] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: the tar -xzf hsfmodem-7.80.02.06full.tar.gz  didn't work
[05:14] <KE1HA> ok, gunzip the file then
[05:15] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: I guess you tried just using nautilus?
[05:15] <KE1HA> If all eles fails, from the file browser, right click, then Extraxt Here :-)
[05:16] <KE1HA> e.g. as sacarlson said, Nautilis :-)
[05:16] <thune3> ortsvorsteher: proprietary drive?. It would help if you described your problem and maybe linked to the output of this script (collects good data about alsa setup and function):  http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh (using "bash alsa-info.sh"), and upload directly or pastebin.
[05:16] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: cannot open, file exists
[05:16] <Aliselyn> sacarlson: nautilus?
[05:17] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: yes as KE1HA said the file browser it name is nautulis in gnome
[05:17] <KE1HA> Places >> Home Folders >> then wherever the file id downloaded too.
[05:18] <KE1HA> is*
[05:18] <KE1HA> Right-Click >> then Extract Here
[05:18] <ldlework> Hi I'm trying to figure out how to use QTile which is a tiling WM. It doesn't work well with gnome really at all. Would anyone have any idea how to use it, and have gnome not startup?
[05:18] <KE1HA> if it complains isn already there, then you've extraxted it alreast
[05:18] <sacarlson> KE1HA: Aliselyn  did she install her kernel header files before she tried the deb file?
[05:18] <KE1HA> already*
[05:18] <ortsvorsteher> thune3, i try to pastebin the whole output from the script
[05:19] <KE1HA> sacarlson, no, we haven't got that far, we we went down that route earlier, but she has to download a buch of stuff.
[05:19] <sacarlson> KE1HA: ok
[05:19] <KE1HA> we need to set up an offline download script for build-essentials and linux-headers for her.
[05:20] <thune3> ortsvorsteher: if you choose Y during running, it will upload it automatically, or it creates a file in /tmp (it tells you at the end). You could pastebin that file.
[05:20] <KE1HA> Earlier, I'd forgotten we could do that and was walking her through checking the Deps :-)
[05:20] <sacarlson> KE1HA: oh ya no network wow.  maybe that's on a cd?
[05:20] <KE1HA> Nope, tried that already too :-)
[05:21] <Aliselyn> hah, classic example of a Catch 22
[05:21] <sacarlson> KE1HA: wow bummer good luck with that then.
[05:21] <KE1HA> But creating the DL scritp is easy, I tested it earlier
[05:21] <KE1HA> Synaptic package Manager dioes it automatically.
[05:22] <ortsvorsteher> thune3, http://paste.ubuntu.com/480770/
[05:22] <sacarlson> KE1HA: well she is talking here maybe on windows send her a tar of what you collect?
[05:22] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Once your done unpackaing the TAR.GZ file, we'll do the Download Script, it's real easy.
[05:22] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: I'm sorry, how do I use gzip?
[05:23] <stercor> What's the package that puts gcc and a bunch of utilities on Desktop?
[05:23] <KE1HA> sacarlson, Open the Package manager, and select a couple packages, make for install, then Edit >> Generate Download Script, dead easy.
[05:23] <KE1HA> Mark for*
[05:24] <ortsvorsteher> thune3, i ran the script newly , here is the whole output: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=13cb3380907ba9afa27a15bdbc9a62703edb0269
[05:24] <thune3> ldlework: i think you can create an appropriate .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/ and it will become an option to select in gdm.
[05:24] <stercor> KE1HA: Amateur radio call sign?
[05:24] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, Places >> Home Folder then browse to the file. Right-Click the File and select Extract here.
[05:24] <thune3> ortsvorsteher: i'm looking it over...
[05:24] <KE1HA> stercor, Yes :-)
[05:24] <wea0> stercor: You mean build-essential?
[05:24] <ldlework> thune3: what if I have gdm autolog me in?
[05:24] <ortsvorsteher> thank you
[05:24] <ldlework> thune3: well I could jst log out
[05:25] <stercor> wea0: I'll check that out.  Thanks.
[05:25] <stercor> KE1HA: W7JIS here.
[05:25] <KE1HA> Im actually KI7MT now :-)
[05:25] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: unzipped
[05:26] <stercor> I was K6AGW  Kissing 6 Absolutely Gorgeous Women.
[05:26] <KE1HA> Ok, On the Machine you need to get the modem working on.
[05:26] <thune3> ldlework: right log out or turn it off.
[05:26] <KE1HA> Open the Package Manager, System >> Administration, Synaptic Package manager
[05:26] <Aliselyn> ok
[05:26] <KE1HA> stercor, That's a Good one.
[05:27] <KE1HA> When you get the PGK MGR program open let me know.
[05:27] <Aliselyn> it's open
[05:27] <KE1HA> Ok, in the search box, type build-essential
[05:28] <thune3> ortsvorsteher: it looks fine. what's the problem? You may have to change Profile in Hardware tab of System->Preferences->Sound.
[05:28] <stercor> wea0:  that's it.
[05:28] <KE1HA> the right click on the package, and mark for installation.
[05:28] <KE1HA> then*
[05:28] <Aliselyn> got that
[05:28] <ortsvorsteher> thune3, yes, all looks well after i installed the latest driver with the script. but, still no sound.
[05:28] <KE1HA> Then, back in the search box, type in linux-headers-2.6.32
[05:29] <stercor> KE1HA: It's installing.
[05:29] <KE1HA> and pick the Linux-Headers you got when you did uname -r
[05:29] <KE1HA> No, we dont want to install.
[05:29] <Gryllida> How do I install Wine? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine says to type 'wine' in software center, then install 'wine'. But I don't see just 'wine' in the search results.
[05:29] <KE1HA> stercor, sri, though you was Aliselyn :-) saying we're installing, we dont wanna do that :-)
[05:29] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: it won't let me select it
[05:30] <KE1HA> which one, the linux headers ?
[05:30] <Aliselyn> yes
[05:30] <stercor> Gryllida: I just sudo apt-get install wine1.2 and it works.
[05:30] <xangua> Gryllida: sudo apt-get install wine
[05:30] <KE1HA> you just right click it, then mark for install.
[05:30] <thune3> ortsvorsteher: do you get sound with this command "speaker-test -c 2 -t wav" ?
[05:31] <KE1HA> I think it should be linux-headers-2.6.32-21-generic
[05:31] <Aliselyn> the only options are Mark for Removal and Mark for Complete Removal
[05:31] <Aliselyn> the others are greyed out
[05:31] <KE1HA> Ok, headers are already installed then, that good.
[05:31] <Aliselyn> what next, then?
[05:32] <KE1HA> Is there a Green Box on the 2.6.32-21
[05:32] <Aliselyn> yes
[05:32] <KE1HA> Ok, there installed.
[05:32] <Aliselyn> both it and the generic
[05:32] <KE1HA> Ok
[05:32] <Gryllida> stercor: xangua: is the package name including '1.2' or not?
[05:32] <Gryllida> !info wine
[05:33] <Gryllida> what is 'dummy package'?
[05:33] <KE1HA> Got to File >> Generate Download Package Script, and save it to your home folder.
[05:33] <ortsvorsteher> thune3, i tried now all profiles under hardware tab, no success... also i tried to play a wav file with aplay, no sound. the speaker-test command is running now... but till now, no sound
[05:33] <stercor> Gryllida: I did wine1.2  I don't know about wine,.
[05:33] <KE1HA> name it somethign You'll remember.
[05:34] <Aliselyn> ok, done
[05:34] <KE1HA> Ok, you need to copy that file to you other computer.
[05:35] <Aliselyn> what do I need to do with it?
[05:35] <thune3> ortsvorsteher: i'm thinking either IEC958 setting in alsamixer/gnome-alsamixer or trying different audio ports. What jack/output are you attempting to get sound from?
[05:35] <KE1HA> on the computer with the Internet correction, make a directory called Modem files or somethign in your home folder, and but that file / script in there.
[05:36] <Aliselyn> done.... not listed as a script though, just as a file
[05:37] <KE1HA> That's ok. now, maks sure it's in a folder by itself.
[05:37] <Aliselyn> all by its lonesome, check
[05:37] <KE1HA> then chmod +x {name_of_file}
[05:37] <KE1HA> name_of_file is whatever you called it.
[05:38] <stercor> Gryllida: I just used wine to install Winamp.
[05:38] <Aliselyn> umm, KE1HA, my computer now is vista, not ubuntu....
[05:38] <KE1HA> The LOL
[05:38] <ortsvorsteher> thune3, in gnome-alsamixer it shows me a realtek ALC1200, the IEC958 is also selected. but the tab names ALC1200
[05:39] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, bummer.
[05:39] <Aliselyn> yeah
[05:39] <KE1HA> I thought this was a Ubuntu system you were on.
[05:39] <Aliselyn> nope
[05:39] <Aliselyn> just the laptop is
[05:39] <KE1HA> Ok, well you'll ahve to fo it manually.
[05:40] <sacarlson> KE1HA:  I was wondering when you would figure that out?
[05:40] <KE1HA> open that file and pastebin it for me real quick.
[05:40] <Aliselyn> I would if I could read it..... but let me get it from the other computer
[05:40] <ortsvorsteher> thune3, ALC1200 is the codec which i found as i tried to figure out which card i really have.
[05:41] <Gryllida> ok, I installed Wine, but it doesn't take .msi file, says 'wine: Bad EXE format'. How can I install this application, if its installer is .msi ?
[05:41] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, then down load this file ( the Binary Zip) and installit.
[05:41] <KE1HA> http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/wget.htm
[05:41] <stercor> ortsvorsteher: ALC.  Ah, the memories.  Assembler Language Code for the S/370 mainframe...
[05:41] <thune3> ortsvorsteher: the option there was to de-select IEC958, and try speakertest
[05:42] <Aliselyn> KE1HA, for my desktop?
[05:43] <KE1HA> For your windows box, it's a wget program.
[05:43] <KE1HA> Actually, wate on that.
[05:43] <Aliselyn> hang on, getting the pastebin
[05:43] <KE1HA> Can you pastebin that file for me real quick ?
[05:43] <KE1HA> Ok
[05:43] <ortsvorsteher> thune3, i deselected the IEC in gnome alsamixer and now i try speakertest newly. but still nothing to hear from the speakers
[05:44] <Aliselyn> http://pastebin.com/1UcvVJTP
[05:45] <thune3> ortsvorsteher: how are your speakers connected? which port? sometimes the ports are mangled and you have to use the port called "Front"
[05:45] <pinPoint> I am getting authetication failed when I try to login on sftp with a new user I just created. What could be causing this?
[05:45] <Gryllida> hello?
[05:45] <pinPoint> they have a home dir, they are also at nologin
[05:45] <ortsvorsteher> thune3, the speakers are built in, it is a laptop...
[05:45] <pinPoint> what is causing this issue?
[05:45] <thune3> ortsvorsteher: checking something...
[05:45] <ortsvorsteher> ok
[05:47] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, well we can try this, as it looks like you've got the files you need on the CD.
[05:47] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: it couldn't find the files on the cd
[05:47] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, yo got errors when it made the script ?
[05:48] <Aliselyn> no
[05:48] <Aliselyn> just earlier I tried to get the files off the cd, and it couldn't find them
[05:48] <KE1HA> Ok, no worries, hold one.
[05:49] <koushik> Anyone used WD My Passport Essential 2.5" (ultra portable) HDD on ubuntu ? Does re-formatting it have any impact on the associate "virtual cd partition" ?
[05:52] <oneman> hi
[05:52] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, I think we're stuck.
[05:52] <Aliselyn> ouch
[05:52] <Roasted> I made the mistake of installing KDE on an Ubuntu system. I used puregnome to get rid of it but firefox still has a weird font that KDE switched. any way to change it back?
[05:52] <oneman> How do I make udisks mount everything with noatime ?
[05:52] <KE1HA> Hold On a second, your on a wondows Box right now ?
[05:52] <Aliselyn> yes
[05:52] <KE1HA> using the modem cable ?
[05:53] <pinPoint> found the issue, thanks.
[05:53] <Aliselyn> modem cable?
[05:53] <Aliselyn> oh, do you mean cable internet?
[05:53] <Aliselyn> I only have dialup
[05:54] <KE1HA> We need to get that onther box connected, cux the CD doesnt' ahve all the Deps for build-essentials.
[05:54] <Aliselyn> heh, and we can't connect without them
[05:54] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Try actually installing the packages you selected with synaptic, with the Ubuntu install CD in the drive.
[05:54] <KE1HA> and we can't get it connected cuz the modem dont work. So Im stuck on how to get you the build packages at the moment.
[05:55] <Aliselyn> I'll try that, Jordan_U
[05:55] <sacarlson> KE1HA:  maybe the system that Aliselyn is using now to chat on can share the internet connection with the ubuntu system she's working on?
[05:55] <KE1HA> Jordan_U, It doenst ahve the Deps, that what I jsut checked wiht the Build script.
[05:56] <KE1HA> Yeah, she needs either a Xrossover cablke, or a NC cable and a Hub, then it will work for that.
[05:56] <Roasted> why does firefox have a weird font? I installed kde and it changed it, and I got rid of kde but it still looks weird.
[05:56] <Jordan_U> KE1HA: The CD has build-essential and all its dependancies, I just checked.
[05:56] <sacarlson> KE1HA:  does she have that if not they cost about $1 to get one.
[05:57] <KE1HA> Look at the Pastenin, it didn't pull them, but we can try it.
[05:57] <KE1HA> Jordan_U, You want to wlak her though that part then ?
[05:57] <Jordan_U> KE1HA: Sure.
[05:58] <sacarlson> KE1HA:  or if it has wifi then they can adhoc network and share that way
[05:58] <reflectivedev> hi, does anyone know how to get the ubuntu library paths?
[05:58] <KE1HA> She's on Dial-Up only for Inet, dont knwo abt the rest.
[05:59] <Gryllida> 'install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables' :: how do I install it?
[05:59] <sacarlson> KE1HA: yes she would have to also have wifi on the two computers to share the dialup connection.
[06:00] <Aliselyn> the only way I have of connecting them both would be via usb, which I'm sure isn't even remotely possible
[06:00] <KE1HA> Man, I've not had one this tricky ina  long time :-)
[06:00] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: I only hope it's fun and interesting
[06:01] <KE1HA> Its a challange fer sure :-)
[06:01] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: ya I've never don't usb network before.  not in my book of tricks
[06:01] <sacarlson> KE1HA: Aliselyn: but I'm sure they both have an ethernet port so crosscable would be the cheapist.
[06:01] <Niglop> why did all of my configuration files reset -.-?
[06:01] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: it's taken me.... total hours, 8 last night, and minus an hour or so today, from 1 until now, so about 18 hours
[06:02] <KE1HA> Ok, Jordan_U is gonna get you though the Package install.
[06:03] <Aliselyn> sacarlson: I might have to look really hard for an ethernet cable.... why would we have one when we only have dialup?
[06:03] <KE1HA> sacarlson, ak on the xover cable that would be nice about now.
[06:03] <sacarlson> Jordan_U:  Aliselyn:  I don't think you will need it from the sound of what jordan_U said.  the needed files are on the cd
[06:05] <Aliselyn> well, gimme a sec to get some food, so I don't fall asleep here and can actually be useful
[06:05] <sacarlson> Jordan_U:  I thought they build files were on the cd but I guess she put an upgraded kernel on it?  maybe just have to downgrade to the one that the file set is on the cd?
[06:05] <KE1HA> 32.21 I think
[06:05] <KE1HA> but that came from the CD so she must have 10.04.1
[06:06] <KE1HA> Hmm 32-21 or 24 can't rem now
[06:07] <b3nw> help please, can't seem to get flash installed - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/cvMW1N7D
[06:08] <Niglop> why did all my configuration files reset -.-?
[06:08] <Niglop> i can't even right click folder> open as root anymore..?
[06:09] <Aliselyn> ok, I'm back
[06:09] <sacarlson> KE1HA: I have 32.21-generic  on my 10.04 as my smalist number in the list of kernel I now have from a fresh install.
[06:09] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, when dod you get your Ubuntu Install CD?
[06:09] <KE1HA> did*
[06:10] <Aliselyn> a few weeks ago?
[06:10] <Aliselyn> after they respun the isos
[06:10] <KE1HA> Ok
[06:10] <Jordan_U> KE1HA: Try installing the build-essential package while the install CD is in the drive.
[06:10] <Aliselyn> the 29th
[06:11] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, follow Jordan_U for this build tools install
[06:11] <Niglop> somebody please him me... :(
[06:11] <Aliselyn> ok, ready when you are Jordan_U
[06:12] <ElTimo> where do i go for help with the unity shell?
[06:12] <sacarlson> Niglop: maybe you didn't login as root?
[06:12] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Try installing the build-essential package while the install CD is in the drive.
[06:13] <KE1HA> ElTimo, do u mane the unity install shell ?
[06:13] <KE1HA> mean*
[06:13] <Jordan_U> Niglop: Was your computer recently shut down improperly (like from a power outage)?
[06:13] <Suit_Of_Sables> does anyone know of a Dock application that can auto hide but does not require compsiting? :o
[06:13] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: "Some of the packages could not be retrieved from the server(s)"
[06:14] <ElTimo> KE1HA, i mean the netbook shell. sorry should have been more specfic
[06:14] <ElTimo> *specific
[06:14] <ortsvorsteher> thune3, i was disconnected...
[06:14] <abhijit>  Suit_Of_Sables tried cairo dock?
[06:14] <KE1HA> Oh, ok, Im not up to speed n netbook
[06:14] <ElTimo> well, i'm having a problem getting it to run from gdm
[06:14] <glick> hey whats the command to find info about a package?
[06:15] <glick> like the version number?
[06:15] <ElTimo> glick, apt-cache show or apt-cache showpkg, depending on what you want to know about it
[06:15] <ElTimo> apt-cache showpkg then
[06:15] <pgpkeys> apt-cache show or dpkg --info
[06:15] <sailerboy> hey, when i try to run supybot, i get this: OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/logs'
[06:15] <sailerboy> on ubuntu server edition
[06:15] <abhijit> glick,  apt-cache policy <package>
[06:15] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Can you run "sudo apt-get install build-essential"? I don't expect any better results, but it will give error messages I'm more familiar with.
[06:16] <Niglop> jo
[06:16] <KE1HA> apt-policy {package_name}
[06:16] <abhijit> sailerboy, try in #ubuntu-server
[06:16] <Niglop> Jordan_U» nop
[06:16] <abhijit> KE1HA, apt-cache policy <package>
[06:16] <sailerboy> there's pratically no one on it
[06:16] <KE1HA> yeah that is .. it's late, Im knackered by a modem :-)
[06:17] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: what error should I start with?
[06:17] <Aliselyn> the first?
[06:17] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Yes.
[06:17] <glick> how can i install the lastes mod_wsgi 3.3 over the 2.8 installed in ubuntu 10.04?
[06:17] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: maybe look at the source.list to see that Aliselyn has cdrom in the list and that apt-get update was ran at some point with the cd in the drive.
[06:17] <glick> i wonder why ubuntu uses such an old version
[06:18] <Niglop> Jordan_U» nop it didnt
[06:19] <sacarlson> glick: you can look at details of a deb in synaptic.  I guess you can also open the deb with a text editor,  I think its human readable to some extent.
[06:20] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: Err cdrom://Ubuntu 10.04 LTS _Lucid Lynx_ -Release 1386 (20100429)/ lucid/main g++-4.4 4.3-4ubuntu5 File not found
[06:20] <Aliselyn> first line
[06:21] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: And the Install CD is in the drive?
[06:21] <Aliselyn> yes
[06:21] <Aliselyn> I already had issues dealing with it, not being able to dual-boot, and it messing up the hardware configs for windows
[06:22] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: It's not really possible for Ubuntu to mess up the hardware configs for windows.
[06:22] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: Jordan_U: you think it's an apt-get update problem?  or check the source.list to make sure cdrom is in the list.
[06:23] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: when I tried to get to the boot menu and boot windows, it errored, saying that the hardware configs would not let it start
[06:23] <Aliselyn> but that's another issue
[06:23] <Aliselyn> not relating to now
[06:24] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Try running "sudo apt-get update" then try apt-get install build-essential again
[06:24] <KE1HA> now that she as only the CD selected in Synaptic you could try to do an apt-get update to refresh the source list from CD
[06:24] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: If that doesn't work I can walk you through installing the .deb files manually.
[06:25] <Aliselyn> the "sudo apt-get update" has all sorts of errors through it
[06:25] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: That's expected as it will be trying to grab new info from the internet.
[06:25] <Aliselyn> ok
[06:25] <Aliselyn> same errors as before
[06:26] <Niglop> why did all my configuration files reset -.-?
[06:26] <Niglop> i can't even right click folder> open as root anymore..?
[06:26] <KE1HA> well, sounds like .deb file build then
[06:26] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Ok, open a terminal and CD to the directory where the CD is mounted. In about a minute I'll give you a command that should install the .deb files from there.
[06:27] <KE1HA> Jordan_U, dont you need the build tools for that to buold the lernel modules though ?
[06:27] <KE1HA> kernel*
[06:27] <Jordan_U> KE1HA: You need at the very least a C compiler and the kernel headers.
[06:27] <Jordan_U> And it can't hurt to grab the rest.
[06:27] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: I'm not sure how to get to the directory via CD
[06:27] <KE1HA> She's got the 2.6 headers, there there.
[06:28] <KE1HA> they're there*
[06:30] <ortsvorsteher> !cookie | thune3
[06:30] <KE1HA> check gcc --version then doubt it's installed.
[06:31] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: OK, run "sudo umount -a" then "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/". That will make it so that I know the path to the .deb files from the terminal.
[06:31] <KE1HA> Aliselyn, type in a terminal: gcc --version
[06:31] <KE1HA> sri
[06:32] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: The first command will give you errors about some things being busy, that's fine. As long as the second command gives no output it worked.
[06:32] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U"
[06:32] <Niglop> can somebody please help me.. sigh
[06:33] <abhijit> bye.
[06:33] <sandr1x> Niglop, wzp
[06:33] <thune3> Niglop: right click folder "open as root", where did that come from? what file got reset to reset that?
[06:33] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: "can't find /dev/cdrom/mnt/ in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:33] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: You need a space after "/dev/cdrom"
[06:34] <Aliselyn> oh, didn't see that
[06:34] <Niglop> thun3 well i used to be able to right click folder and open as root, and i cant anymore
[06:34] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: does /dev/sr0 sound right?
[06:35] <thune3> Niglop: i've never been able to do that, so I don't have any clue where that came from
[06:35] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Yes, /dev/sr0 is what /dev/cdrom normally points to.
[06:35] <Aliselyn> ok
[06:36] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: I messed up the first command, it actually found the cd
[06:36] <bcbc2> Niglop: isn't that from ubuntu tweak
[06:37] <Niglop> thune3» its an xfce option
[06:39] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: "Block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only"
[06:39] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: That's normal ( I know I said there should be no output, I was wrong :)
[06:39] <Aliselyn> ok, what next?
[06:41] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: I'll have the command to run in a second, it's a long one so you'll want to save it to a file to copy over.
[06:41] <lahwran> whoops wrong channel :D
[06:43] <Aliselyn> ok, can do Jordan_U
[06:43] <seekwill> Hello. I'm trying to install WinXP under a KVM instance, but after a successful install and I boot it up, all I see is a black window. Anyone run into this before?
[06:45] <thune3> Niglop: i'm going to take a left field wild guess that some config file has been set to root ownership somehow. "find ~/ -user root -print"
[06:45] <Niglop> ok sec
[06:46] <Niglop> thune3 [adam@tux ~]$ find ~/ -user root -print
[06:46] <Niglop> [adam@tux ~]$
[06:46] <b3nw> help please, can't seem to get flash installed - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/cvMW1N7D
[06:47] <thune3> that's a negative! This was an option you added like http://www.xpmediacentre.com.au/community/linux-tutorials-guides/40692-add-open-root-thunar-xfce-4-6-arch-ubuntu.html ? did anything else get blown away?
[06:47] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: http://pastebin.com/EqRWGXuk
[06:48] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U, you weren't kidding!
[06:48] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: :)
[06:50] <Niglop> thne3 was that link for me?
[06:50] <Niglop> thune3*
[06:50] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: quite a few errors again
[06:51] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: some are listed as dependency issues, some as no such file or directory
[06:52] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Have you installed any other packages before these?
[06:52] <Aliselyn> a few, related to wvdial and gnome-ppp
[06:52] <Aliselyn> those were downloaded from windows, then installed
[06:53] <Aliselyn> I can tell you what they are, if you need it
[06:53] <thune3> Niglop: seems thunar shortcut/action are stored in ~/.config/Thunar/uca.xml
[06:54] <Niglop> thune3 what about the solve to all my config files reseting -.-?
[06:54] <Niglop> is there a way I can roll back my system
[06:54] <modsaid> Greetings guys..
[06:55] <uRock> why does the floodbot seem to be flooding?
[06:55] <modsaid> anyone using Ubuntu lucid on a dv6 HP laptop ??
[06:55] <modsaid> the latest kernel upgarde just crashed my system once and for all
[06:55] <uRock> !flood | floodbot1
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: For the no such file or directory errors, it may be because the image I'm using is actually a daily iso. It's from around the time of release but not quite the same.
[06:57] <patcito> hi
[06:57] <shrubbery> oh good. xchat automatically joined ubuntu. just where i wanted to be!
[06:57] <uRock> !hi
[06:58] <patcito> anyone know if a Dlink n150 pci wifi card is supposed to work out of the box with free drivers on ubuntu?
[06:58] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Let me give you a shorter, more complicated, command that I used to create the command I pastebined. It should find the correct files from the CD.
[06:58] <Aliselyn> ok
[06:58] <shrubbery> so i upgraded my ubuntu 10.04 netbook install, and now my trackpad doesn't seem to be a trackpad anymore
[06:58] <fross> Hey, i just got a wireless card working on my server, but for some reason my speeds are incredibly slow. downloading from an outside server i am getting 10kbps when if wired i get 1.6mb. any ideas?
[06:58] <shrubbery> as in, i can't disable tap to click. looks like a generic mouse. worked before the upgrade. help?
[06:59] <uRock> fross, have you installed backports?
[06:59] <fross> uRock: I do not belive so
[06:59] <fross> uRock: This has kinnd of been my learning server, so im not entirely sure what all i have done
[07:00] <uRock> the backport modules for the kernel may fix your issue
[07:01] <uRock> I am not sure the exact command for installing the right package for backports, you'd have to search through Synaptic in a desktop install
[07:01] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: http://pastebin.com/EHwdWGbf
[07:01] <fross> uRock: is it just sudo apt-get install linux-backport-modules?
[07:01] <uRock> I think it will have to have the kernel number in it
[07:01] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: so just paste that whole mess in?
[07:02] <fross> ahh thanks much ill look around and try it out
[07:02] <gewt> there's a backported modules package?
[07:02] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Yes.
[07:02] <gewt> o_O
[07:02] <nimbiotics> KE1HA: u still there?
[07:02] <gewt> didn't know that.
[07:03] <nimbiotics> Can some please tell me what do I need to install in order to allow nautilus to handle network locations?
[07:03] <uRock> gewt, check it out in USC
[07:03] <itsux2bu> when i put a task into the background with ctrl-z/bg what happens to the screen output? do i have to pipe the outpout to a file?
[07:03] <syn-ack> Jordan_U: That's not going to pull build-essential off the installer CD
[07:03] <uRock> nimbiotics, samba?
[07:04] <Taravel> hi, can anyone help me to set up a desktop ubuntu installation to be a server for a lan installation of ubuntu on another pc?
[07:04] <syn-ack> Jordan_U: Rather, said packages from the Metapackage
[07:04] <nimbiotics> uRock: yes, been having trouble with samba, uninstalled it, reinstalled and now nautilus cant "handle network locations"
[07:04] <uRock> that is odd
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> Taravel: do you mean like a PXE server?
[07:04] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: looks like that worked
[07:05] <uRock> Taravel, search on google for ubuntu PXE install
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Taravel: or do you mean to use the cache of debs on the current system to update a new install?
[07:05] <nimbiotics> uRock: tell me about odd. After 5 nites trying I feel like the only person in the wolrd who cant use samba...
[07:06] <Jordan_U> syn-ack: That list of packages included all the needed dependencies.
[07:06] <uRock> nimbiotics, I have never completely set it up
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: if you are around in 30 mins. I can give you my smb.conf if you like.
[07:06] <uRock> I just do open sharing without adding accounts
[07:06] <syn-ack> Jordan_U: and all that was included on the installer?
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: you can then simply change the share names and paths and it'll work
[07:06] <Visine> hey guys whats the equivalent to ctrl alt del for ubuntu?
[07:07] <Jordan_U> KE1HA: She now has build-essential installed. Handing off back to you :)
[07:07] <Aliselyn> syn-ack: it says setting up build-essential
[07:07] <syn-ack> Jordan_U: I was under the impression that stuff was only included on the DVD image..
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Visine: do you mean to bring up task manager?
[07:07] <Taravel> the problem is this: I tried to install ubuntu on an old pc but the CD driver was broken and didn't install GRUB. Because this pc can't boot from USB but can boot from network I would want to reinstall ubuntu and grub. is this a correct solution?
[07:07] <itsux2bu> bisine, try..   sudo reboot
[07:07] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: I've tried almost everything except black magic & exorcism ... what have i got to lose? :D please do post it
[07:07] <uRock> Visine, there isn't one, go to system> administration> system monitor and you will be able to kill programs
[07:07] <syn-ack> Aliselyn: that's rather interesting
[07:08] <Aliselyn> syn-ack: interesting how?
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Taravel: sounds like you want a pxe server. If you can boot floppy there are floppy images on pendrivelinux to then boot from usb
[07:08] <lahwran> this is a ubuntu one question, but is also to do with the rest of the ubuntu desktop, so I'll ask it here too. what could be causing these dbus errors: http://www.pasteall.org/15081 ?
[07:08] <Jordan_U> syn-ack: The DVD image includes all of main, the CD image contains just a select few packages that aren't installed by default but are often needed (for instance all of the proprietary drivers require build-essential since they use DKMS, but that's a recent change).
[07:08] <syn-ack> Aliselyn: I wasnt aware those programs were included on the installer. Learn something new everyday...
[07:09] <syn-ack> Jordan_U: I'm aware of that. I didn't know they were on the disc to begin with
[07:09] <syn-ack> otherwise I'd have had her just install all the apps seperately
[07:09] <Aliselyn> KE1HA: ready to get back to work when you are
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: if you want accounts to auth with (needed if you are sharing users $HOMEs then you will need to run: sudo smbpasswd -a name ,replace name with an actual username. When you connect you can authenticate as name and get the right access level
[07:09] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: thank you again
[07:09] <Taravel> ActionParsnip: can you explain me better about this way? where is this floppy image (I mean the direct URL)?
[07:10] <nimbiotics> uRock, as I said before, Ive tried e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g ive been told in this and 2 other forums, pluse followed the instructions in who knows how many online articles and manuals: nothing has workind, and if it does itd be for SECONDS
[07:10] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: You're welcome.
[07:10] <syn-ack> Aliselyn: the rest of the process will literally go in about two to three mins. install the deb with the web installer
[07:10] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: im doing that
[07:10] <Aliselyn> so just install the deb now? or at least try?
[07:10] <uRock> nimbiotics, I haven't played with it enough to be helpful
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Taravel: http://www.google.com/m/url?client=ms-android-tmobile&ei=TBxuTNikBoanjAf00N4X&gl=gb&hl=en&q=http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/&source=android-browser-key&ved=0CBAQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNGAYsup0XQrxDwaFmf89PBoSyvSxg
[07:11] <nimbiotics> uRock: np
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Sorry for stupid link. Google insists on poisoning my links
[07:11] <syn-ack> Aliselyn: yeah like you did the first time. There are hooks in the .deb control file that will call the compiler and such
[07:11] <uRock> lol
[07:11] <Jordan_U> Taravel: What do you mean by "didn't install GRUB"? Was there an error message or did it just fail to boot after install?
[07:11] <itsux2bu> while using ubuntu server, when i put a task into the background with ctrl-z/bg, what happens to the screen output? do i have to pipe the outpout to a file?   is this such a hard question?
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Taravel: top link. Looks like my browser didn't copy the url I copied
[07:12] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: I see you use an android phone on tmobile :)
[07:12] <uRock> itsux2bu, ctrl+z tells it to sleep
[07:12] <itsux2bu> yes
[07:12] <uRock> I forgot the command to bring it bacl
[07:12] <lahwran> fg
[07:13] <itsux2bu> and bg restarts it in background
[07:13] <Aliselyn> sny-ack: I think it installed correctly.... how can I be sure?
[07:13] <uRock> fg, that's it
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: I do. Isn't it exciting :)
[07:13] <syn-ack> Aliselyn: initialise it with wvdial or gnome-ppp
[07:13] <shrubbery> ok, so kernel 2.6.32-24, which i just installed today (was it released just today?) breaks my touchpad. anyone else?
[07:13] <itsux2bu> so while in background, where does output go?
[07:13] <shrubbery> going back to 2.6.32-21 fixes it
[07:13] <syn-ack> Was there a kernel drop today?
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> shrubbery: log a bug
[07:13] <Aliselyn> syn-ack: by trying to connect, or what?
[07:14] <itsux2bu> just gets lost?
[07:14] <Taravel> Ok I opened the link now I'll try
[07:14] <syn-ack> Aliselyn: yeppers
[07:14] <shrubbery> ActionParsnip, ok, will do
[07:14] <lahwran> itsux2bu, no.
[07:14] <Aliselyn> syn-ack: gnome-ppp "can not open modem"
[07:14]  * uRock says good night all
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> shrubbery: try a combination of these 3 boot options: irqpoll, i8024.reset, i8024.nomux=0
[07:14] <lahwran> itsux2bu, it goes the same place it does in the foreground
[07:14] <itsux2bu> the screen?
[07:14] <Taravel> Jordan_U: When the alternate installation ended when I reboot Grup doesn't start and I can't run neither win and nor ubuntu
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> shrubbery: they are pretty good at fixing touchpads
[07:15] <Jordan_U> Taravel: What happens when you try to boot?
[07:15] <syn-ack> Aliselyn: hrm
[07:16] <shrubbery> ActionParsnip, how do i set boot options? sorry for being a noob.
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> shrubbery: add them in /etc/default/grub in the "s after quiet splash, you will need: gksudo gedit ,to get write access. Try different combinations
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> shrubbery: ater each change you must run: sudo update-grub ,to apply the change
[07:18] <Taravel> Jordan_U: I can see: grub rescue>
[07:18] <Taravel> or something of similar....now I don't have the pc in front of me because my friend with this PC will come to my home at 9:30
[07:19] <Jordan_U> Taravel: Does "ls" at the rescue prompt list all of your hard drives / partitions? Do you have more than one hard drive?
[07:19]  * ActionParsnip is glad Jordan_U understands grub
[07:20] <Taravel> When he will come I cane tell you about Is.   About HD he has 1HD and 5 partition:   1 with Win, 1logical with data and 3 logical for ubuntu
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> Does anyone know a fix for lucid server where the inputted text goes awry and inputted characters appearing over the top of others, not being able to delete all text (so it seems but it is) and so on?
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> I've not tested it with last nights kernel but its doing it currently. Wondering if I was alone on this one
[07:24] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: u still there?
[07:26] <gary_inNYC> my system just went crazy when i tried to do a quick switch on the user
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: yeah, blackspot in my bus trip, sup
[07:27] <gary_inNYC> i hit the power menu, then selected the user's picture and everything just went unresponsive
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> gary_inNYC: is you system relatively new?
[07:28] <gary_inNYC> ActionParsnip: pretty new install on a T40 laptop
[07:28] <gary_inNYC> I can log out ok, but switching is like a bomb my system button :(
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> gary_inNYC: as long as it not some old thing, that may have been the issue but you have enough grunt
[07:29] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: just waiting for you to give me your smb.conf ... BTW, messing up with the "interfases = " line I just could make my nimbuctu pc visible on the windows 7 pc, but i cannot see the shares ... yet
[07:29] <Jordan_U> Taravel: Are there any error messages before the "rescue> " prompt, possibly "out of disk"?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: nearly there dude. I keep mine on my dropbox as a backup. I'll pastebin it from there for you. Not long now. Bus is being slow
[07:30] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: np
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: let me see if I can do it from my phone. I gots a client here too
[07:31] <gary_inNYC> does that happen to anyone else or am i just unlucky?
[07:32] <bryan_r59> How many hours should System Testing be taking?
[07:32] <gary_inNYC> If you click the power menu in top right, then select another user account directly (not switching) crashes my computer
[07:32] <valio> Hi I want to ask you for some phrase, if you could tell me is it right :D
[07:32] <valio>  I suggest to arrange a meeting half hour later 17:00 or at 31 August.
[07:32] <Jordan_U> gary_inNYC: What graphics card?
[07:32] <bryan_r59> Let me rephrase,: My problem is, how long should i let System Testing gather information before being worried?
[07:33] <gary_inNYC> Jordan_U: i believe it's the radeon mobility 7500m that came with the Thinkpad T40
[07:33] <Jordan_U> gary_inNYC: Using the proprietary driver?
[07:33] <gary_inNYC> Jordan_U: I'm using the driver that came with a fresh install
[07:34] <itsux2bu> how can i search for multiple words inside files?  is there an "and" in grep?   grep -i -n -r 'setterm' "and" 'powersave' "and" 'powerdown' * > filelist &
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: my phone has a pastebin client, sec
[07:34] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: no rush man ... :)
[07:35] <Jordan_U> gary_inNYC: Is the Ubuntu logo on the purple backround during boot in your full native resolution? (if it is then I know you're using Kernel Mode Setting)
[07:35] <Meshezabeel> anyone have any problems with youtube-dl?
[07:36] <gary_inNYC> Jordan_U: i think so
[07:37] <Taravel> Jordan_U: can I contact you at 9:30? because I don't have the pc under my hands
[07:38] <Jordan_U> Meshezabeel: Youtube recently changed things up and broke most (all?) of the youtube downloaders.
[07:38] <lahwran> itsux2bu, grep 'word1.*word2' #and
[07:38] <Aliselyn> syn-ack: still there?
[07:38] <Jordan_U> Taravel: What time zone?
[07:38] <lahwran> egrep '(word1|word2)' #or
[07:38] <gary_inNYC> Jordan_U: I did enable compiz effects though.  does that affect what driver I use?
[07:39] <Jordan_U> gary_inNYC: No.
[07:39] <Taravel> d'oh it's true now here are 8.38
[07:39] <Jordan_U> gary_inNYC: Well, not unless it prompted you to change drivers (which it will in some cases).
[07:40] <gary_inNYC> Jordan_U: ok, so I'm going to google some things.  are you suggesting i use "kernel mode settings" for video driver?
[07:48] <Taravel> ActionParsnip: I'll try that floppy thanks very much :)
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Taravel: np man
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: ready?
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: all I added were the lines at the bottom, fairly readable: http://pastie.org/1103665
[07:50] <cyberjunk502> how to disable cpu frequency scaling in ubuntu 10.4
[07:52] <cyberjunk502> whenever i play a movie it freezes for a second
[07:52] <Jordan_U> Taravel: You might also want to try Super GRUB2 Disk: http://prdownload.berlios.de/supergrub/super_grub_disk_hybrid-1.98s1.iso even though it has a .iso extention it is also a valid floppy image as well.
[07:53] <cyberjunk502> anyone help
[07:53] <Gryllida> cyberjunk502: with?
[07:53] <Gryllida> oh
[07:53] <cyberjunk502> Gryllida: with any player
[07:54] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot, fell asleep, guess its time for me 2 give for tonight, will copy & check your file tomorrow. Again; MUCHAS GRACIAS
[07:54] <Taravel> Jordan_U: this image can let me to restore grub?
[07:54] <cyberjunk502> Gryllida: Vlc, mplayer
[07:54] <Taravel> sorry for the wrong sentence :(
[07:55] <Jordan_U> Taravel: It doesn't restore grub directly but it will let you boot Ubuntu. It also makes troubleshooting grub problems a lot easier.
[07:56] <Taravel> good
[07:56] <Taravel> now I can only wait my friend :) thanks...see you in 1h
[07:58] <Meshezabeel> Jordan_U: okay thanks, any youtube downloaders that you know that may still work?
[07:59] <Jordan_U> Meshezabeel: The classic trick of grabbing the video from /tmp/ when it's playing in flash still works. You can also browse most youtube videos without flash using google chrome and html5 .
[08:01] <bazhang> Meshezabeel, video download helper a firefox addon
[08:01] <ldlework> Wtf is wrong with xmodmap in Lucid?!
[08:01] <bazhang> ldlework, watch the language please
[08:01] <ldlework> ...
[08:02] <ldlework> Has anyone else had issues with assigning Keysyms to modifiers with Xmodmap, BadValue errors?
[08:02] <ldlework> There are bug reports that don't seem to have any clue
[08:06] <acidflash> hello people, something very strange is happening with my ubuntu 10.04 x64 server edition install
[08:06] <acidflash> whenever i restart my system, all the formatting and mounting and chown'ning that i do is reset :S
[08:07] <Karen_m> is there a way to get winkey+left and winkey+right to work like it does in win7 under gnome?
[08:07] <Morten_> how do they work under win7?
[08:09] <Karen_m> it takes the window, divides the width of the desktop in 1/2 and places the application on the left or right ... so you can grab a window, winkey+left, and it divides it exactly in half on the left.   Grab another window, winkey+right, exactly 1/2 on the right... 2 application windows side by side without messing about
[08:11] <wea0> Don't know about gnome, but if you're running KDE this is easy: System settings->global keyboard shortcuts->kwin->quick tile window to the left/right.
[08:12] <Karen_m> yeah i tried that with KDE< but i prefer gnome :(
[08:13] <atof> hello everyone, can anyone tell me where I can find the "xorg.conf" file in ubuntu 10.04 LTS ? its not in /etc/X11 directory
[08:13] <bazhang> Karen_m, might want to investigate compiz for that
[08:13] <Karen_m> atof, find / -name "xorg.conf"
[08:14] <Karen_m> or ,   "xorg.conf*"
[08:16] <Meshezabeel> thanks Jordan_U, I did not realize that they were in /tmp :)
[08:16] <Jordan_U> Meshezabeel: You're welcome.
[08:17] <red2kic> Karen_m: Install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra and enable Grid plugin. Now, customize keyboard shortcuts to your likings.
[08:17] <_raven> hi
[08:18] <_raven> what was the last version with the latest 2.4 kernel?
[08:18] <ilovefairuz> atof: Xorg doesn't  automatically generate one by default because it does auto-configuration, if you want to change that, switch to a virtual terminal (alt + f2), then sudo service gdm stop , and finally: sudo Xorg -configire
[08:19] <ilovefairuz> atof: correction: Xorg -configure
[08:20] <Jordan_U> _raven: Ubuntu has never used a 2.4 kernel.
[08:21] <Jordan_U> _raven: Why do you ask?
[08:21] <_raven> Jordan_U, i need to use ubuntu as openmosix host
[08:24] <Jordan_U> _raven: LinuxPMI is avaialable for 2.6 kernels: http://linuxpmi.org/trac/
[08:24] <BiggFREE> Why editor do I need for seeing Xorg.conf file ?
[08:24] <MichaelSOG> hi
[08:25] <hmansner> I'd assume you can do it with nano
[08:25] <MichaelSOG> what's is going on whit this channel, it ask me to register my nick to keep here logged
[08:25] <hmansner> just type sudo nano [file]
[08:25] <BiggFREE> ty :)
[08:25] <hmansner> then you'll be able to save with admin rights
[08:25] <hmansner> np
[08:26] <hmansner> just read the faq link
[08:26] <hmansner> (MichaelS0G:)
[08:26] <itsux2bu> ctrl-z halts the foreground job.. after that what kills it.. kill   or   kill  job_no   or  kill pid  ?
[08:27] <Gunni> can i enter a simple command on ubuntu server to turn the screen off, screen power saving mode
[08:27] <_jesse_> itsux2bu: kill pid
[08:27] <hmansner> does anyone know if there's a quick and convenient place to drop improvement suggestions? (I don't consider any forum one)
[08:28] <itsux2bu> Gunni, try    http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-disable-screen-blanking-screen-going-blank.html
[08:28] <bazhang> !brainstorm | hmansner
[08:28] <Gunni> no see i want to trigger it oncommand
[08:28] <Gunni> turn screen off with command on demand
[08:28] <MichaelSOG> hmansner: what is tha faq link?
[08:28] <hmansner> hmm...let me see
[08:29] <hmansner> i thought it was in the "intro texts" when you connect to the server
[08:29] <hmansner> but just a moment
[08:29] <hmansner> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[08:29] <Karen_m> red2kic, wow if that works, i appreciate it so much!!
[08:30] <ilovefairuz> !enter | hmansner
[08:30] <hmansner> yeah ok, suppose i get the point
[08:30] <rp2> itsux2bu: the usual idiom is grep 'regex1' input | grep 'regex2'
[08:30] <itsux2bu> Gunni,   try  setterm -blank now ?
[08:31] <ilovefairuz> itsux2bu: any of the kill commands, as long as  provided with the right process id, type: ps, to list them
[08:31] <Karen_m> red2kic, how do I enable the grid plugin?  I have it installed, but I cannot find out how to pull it up?
[08:31] <Gunni> doesn't do anything itsux2bu
[08:31] <itsux2bu> so ilovefairuz, kill is pid based
[08:32] <ilovefairuz> itsux2bu: yes, but you can normally kill a process by just pressing ctrl + c, without having to suspend it first, but it might be needed in some cases
[08:33] <finemann> hi, xchat is taking a lot of time to connect to freenode. please help. (other clients like irssi does it fast)
[08:36] <_jesse_> finemann: use irssi ;)
[08:36] <ilovefairuz> itsux2bu: check the man pages of: kill, pkill and killall
[08:38] <shawnboy> Does anyone encrypt files? I've used PGP or GPG for years, but it apparently is becoming extinct, at least for how I was using it. Recommendations?
[08:38] <Karen_m> red2kic,thank you it works great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:39] <ilovefairuz> shawnboy: extinct? that's a baseless argument, it's very much alive and almost the universal standard for email encryption
[08:40] <rallias> Does anyone know of a program of some sort where I can input a tracker and a hash key and it outputs a list of IP addresses of those downloading that file?
[08:40] <Karen_m> damn that is amazing!
[08:40] <shawnboy> ilovefairuz: I search forums and find almost no activity on topic. Seems like very small percentage use it for email. And now support is dwindling (gedit used to have plugin, can't encrypt/decrypt clipboard or files).
[08:41] <shawnboy> ilovefairuz: I also used to keep private keyring on flash drive but can't figure that out on Linux either.
[08:42] <ilovefairuz> shawnboy: that's probably because most people (sadly) don't care about encryption
[08:42] <shawnboy> ilovefairuz: It seems that way, and I agree about the sadly. I don't understand it.
[08:42] <red2kic> Karen_m: Sorry. I was playing video games. :P   You could enable Grid plugin and use default settings -- More flexible than split. Useful on my big 24" screen. :o
[08:43] <SwedeMike> rallias: you can telnet to the tracker port and just give the command needed, but no, I don't know of any such program.
[08:43] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: are you still awake?
[08:43] <rww> shawnboy: seahorse-plugins adds the gedit plugin, iirc
[08:43] <shawnboy> rww: oh. I didn't know that. thanks.
[08:43] <Karen_m> red2kic, , which video game are you playing?
[08:43] <Karen_m> any good games under ubuntu for free?
[08:43] <rww> shawnboy: it used to be installed by default; there was some reason for changing that that I forget
[08:43] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: Yes
[08:44] <rww> ubottu: games
[08:44] <ilovefairuz> shawnboy: there are usable graphical tools to manage your keys (many kinds, not just pgp) the most well known of which are seahorse and kgpg
[08:44] <red2kic> Karen_m: Halo3 (on Xbox360)
[08:44] <itsux2bu> don't you know *nix is a game in itself
[08:45] <shawnboy> ilovefairuz: I've been trying to figure out seahorse lately and have been frustrated by it.
[08:45] <Karen_m> i recently went to ubuntu and i love it!
[08:45] <itsux2bu> some higher being created to see how many subjevts it could get to run around making it useful..
[08:45] <Karen_m> so much better than windows
[08:45] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: syn-ack left for the night, might you be able to help me out a bit more, or should I ask the rest of the channel?
[08:45] <shawnboy> ilovefairuz: maybe the seahorse-plugins will help that.
[08:45] <BiggFREE> Why editor do I need for seeing Xorg.conf file ? I cannot find this file anywhere.
[08:46] <Karen_m> i am trying this flightgear just to see if it works
[08:46] <BiggFREE> I am in VBOX
[08:46] <ilovefairuz> BiggFREE: have you generated an xorg.conf first? sudo Xorg -configure
[08:46] <iluminator101> i upgraded kernel i cant access encrypted /home partition how do i open Access-Your-Private-Date-desktop to open /home encrypted to open automatically
[08:47] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: I did not
[08:47] <ilovefairuz> !games > Karen_m
[08:47] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: It is not created by default ?
[08:48] <derechtejohannes> hi, I installed powertop on my fileserver, it suggests to set dirty writeback time from 5 sec to 15 sec, does this only affect writes to my system hdd or does it also affect writes to my storage hdds ( network access, etc)?
[08:48] <ilovefairuz> BiggFREE: no, Xorg  now auto-configures devices
[08:48] <iluminator101> i upgraded kernel i cant access encrypted /home partition how do i open Access-Your-Private-Date-desktop to open /home encrypted to open automatically
[08:48] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: Thanks a lot
[08:48] <Taravel> Jordan_U: My friend had some troubles...will you be here tomorrow at this time?
[08:49] <SwedeMike> derechtejohannes: it affects all writes.
[08:50] <Jordan_U> Taravel: Maybe, but you're more likely to catch me earlier (it's 1:00 AM where I am).
[08:50] <ilovefairuz> derechtejohannes: networking subsystems have nothing to do with storage
[08:51] <derechtejohannes> SwedeMike thanks for the answer, without ups it probably isnt a good idea to set it higher because of the risc of data loss, right?
[08:51] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: I've never worked with dial up modems in Linux unfortunately.
[08:51] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: ok, thanks for helping me out with what you have
[08:52] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: You're welcome, and good luck.
[08:52] <derechtejohannes> ilovefairuz I hoped this command would affect kernel writes only
[08:53] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U: thank you... do you know of anyone, on this channel, that might have knowledge? just so I can ask directly
[08:53] <SwedeMike> derechtejohannes: well, applications that care about data should fsync() more often than 5s, but generally it's a good idea to keep it low on systems without battery
[08:53] <Suit_Of_Sables> if a partitions label has a space in the name, what do I do in fstab to mount it by the label? LABEL='Label Name' doesn't seem to work
[08:54] <Jordan_U> Aliselyn: No.
[08:54] <RiverLaptop> Aliselyn: What is your issue w/ dialup?
[08:55] <derechtejohannes> SwedeMike powertop says my cpu wakes up about 20 times per sec, I thought I could even better that, but data consistency is more important
[08:55] <Aliselyn> RiverLaptop: trying to set up my connection, and having trouble with the drivers
[08:55] <RiverLaptop> I've only ever used external dialup modems so it was straight serial port stuff.
[08:56] <Taravel> ok I'll be here earlyer Thnaks very much Jordan_U!!!
[08:56] <RiverLaptop> those are easy drivers
[08:56] <Aliselyn> it's built in on my laptop
[08:56] <ilovefairuz> derechtejohannes: i double-checked, the dirty_writeback_centisecs control the pdflush daemon, which is ONLY concerned with writing change/dirty memory pages back to the disk
[08:56] <iluminator101> how do enable user to open Access-your-private data?
[08:56] <Jordan_U> Taravel: You're welcome.
[08:57] <RiverLaptop> Aliselyn: Well there is a wrapper thing for windows drivers I know people used but I never had to.  Sorry.
[08:57] <Aliselyn> RiverLaptop: a wrapper thing? what do you mean?
[08:58] <SwedeMike> derechtejohannes: 20 times / s seems nice and low, my laptop wakes up hundreds of times per second.
[08:58] <RiverLaptop> Aliselyn: There was a wrapper that you could install a winblows driver in and then load into the kernel but I never had to do that.
[08:58] <Aliselyn> RiverLaptop: thank you
[08:59] <RiverLaptop> I do remember hearing about it though.
[08:59] <shawnboy> rww: just installed seahorse-plugins. That added encrypt/decrypt to file context menu in nautilus. Thanks again! I needed that.
[09:00] <rww> glad to help :)
[09:00] <ilovefairuz> derechtejohannes:  SwedeMike: what makes you think the dirty writeback threshold of pdflush  controls network buffers ?
[09:01] <SwedeMike> ilovefairuz: I never thought that. I said it affects all writes, and I don't really think of network access as "write"; unless it's for iSCSI or AoE, and then it's affected by the timeout.
[09:01] <derechtejohannes> ilovefairuz thats my question, I am searching google right now, although I found several pages I still dont get the concept of pdflush
[09:02] <SwedeMike> derechtejohannes: there is a write cache in the system which it uses to write things efficiently in nice order, that's what flushing is all about.
[09:03] <scompt> any suggestions for updating to PHP 5.3.3 on a lucid install?
[09:03] <ilovefairuz> derechtejohannes:  SwedeMike: "all writes" include networking buffers too (which was in the original question) and that's not true for htop's suggestion because it only concerns writes to the disk
[09:04] <SwedeMike> scompt: check if it's available in backports, otherwise you probably should create a package for it and install.
[09:04] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: so what's the status on your modem now?  seems the driver is installed from what I see in your posts of past.
[09:04] <Aliselyn> sacarlson: it's actually not quite installed right
[09:05] <RiverLaptop> Aliselyn: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Conexant+Rockwell-modem-HOWTO.html
[09:05] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: not installed right?  did the deb file load?
[09:05] <DasEi> scompt: 5.3.2 is in the repos, so you would have to compile it your own
[09:05] <derechtejohannes> ilovefairuz changes are first written into ram, sorted and then written to hdd? and dirty writeback time defines, when data will be written to disk?
[09:05] <shawnboy> rww: Awesome, it enables me to add the "Clipboard Text Encryption" applet to the list of applets I can put on the panel, also. I really wanted that but thought it disappeared after jaunty.
[09:05] <GhostWolf> hi all, i need help, im trying to use remote desktop viewer to connect to my windows comp, i have set everything right least i believe i did, but not sure how to exactly connect to my windows come from ubuntu using the remote desktop viewer
[09:06] <scompt> SwedeMike, http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid-backports/ says it can't read the index file. any other place I can look for backports?
[09:06] <ilovefairuz> derechtejohannes: yeap (but an application can request the data to be flushed to disk immediately)
[09:06] <Aliselyn> sacarlson: yeah, but it wanted to download another file, and when I downloaded it then installed it, the deb file didn't load right
[09:07] <DasEi> scompt: Dotdeb.org  has a deb for it
[09:07] <sacarlson> Aliselyn: oh not good.
[09:08] <Aliselyn> RiverLaptop: looking into that right now, thank you
[09:08] <DasEi> scompt: sudo echo "deb http://php53.dotdeb.org stable all" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:08] <derechtejohannes> ilovefairuz netatalk samba and nfs, would be of interest for me, do you know a catch phrase I can use to find out more about it with google?
[09:08] <DasEi> scompt: sudo echo "deb-src http://php53.dotdeb.org stable all" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:08] <DasEi> scompt: sudo apt-get update
[09:08] <rww> DasEi, scompt: That won't work; try echo "deb http://php53.dotdeb.org stable all" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:09] <DasEi> rww: yes, thanks
[09:09] <rww> no problem. I make that mistake frequently :)
[09:09] <ilovefairuz> derechtejohannes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Network_file_systems
[09:09] <DasEi> scompt: got it ?
[09:09] <scompt> DasEi, yup, I'll give it a shot
[09:10] <scompt> do I need the deb-src repo also?
[09:10] <DasEi> scompt: yes, and : sudo apt-get upgrade --dry-run to see if problems occur
[09:10] <derechtejohannes> ilovefairuz I look it up thanks for the advice
[09:11] <DasEi> scompt: if no complains,  cut the --dry-run and be done
[09:11] <jatt> hi, how do I list hidden files only with ls?
[09:11] <jatt> in the current directory.
[09:13] <RiverLaptop> Aliselyn: No problem, I needed something to do while I sort out my udev issues on my gentoo desktop.  (loot's of compile, reboot, rinse, repeat :)
[09:13] <iluminator101>  i just mounted my encrypted /home livecd how do i make it permanent so when i boot up it load it automatically
[09:14] <scompt> DasEi, is it expected behavior that the public key for php53.dotdeb.org isn't available?
[09:16] <DasEi> scompt: lets try, it should give you two numbers , add these to : sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
[09:16] <DasEi> just behind, the string like 1BD3A65C 1BD3A65C
[09:16] <Jordan_U> jatt: ls -d .*
[09:17] <GhostWolf> can anyone here help me with remote desktop viewer?
[09:17] <scompt> DasEi, that worked, thanks
[09:17] <DasEi> scompt: I'm not sure if the server holds these keys, great
[09:17] <jatt> Jordan_U: thanks!
[09:17] <DasEi> sompt: does apt-cache show php5 show correct version ?
[09:17] <Jordan_U> jatt: You're welcome.
[09:19] <jhattara> if a dvd disk doesn't show anything in ubuntu, is there a way to diagnose why it doesn't show its contents?
[09:19] <DasEi> scompt: does apt-cache show php5 show correct version ?
[09:19] <scompt> DasEi, the first package it lists is 5.3.3... there are also 5.3.2 packages
[09:20] <DasEi> scompt: so if no comlains from apt, should be fine then, can try to remove 5.3.2 to not get mixed up (again first --dry-run)
[09:21] <CruelCoke> eek
[09:21] <CruelCoke> there's a major bug in buntus when unetbootined
[09:22] <ssbpls> how to study Ruby?
[09:22] <bazhang> CruelCoke, so file a bug report
[09:22] <DasEi> jhattara: mount it from trml, try to open with k3b, shall tell you if it's empty
[09:22] <CruelCoke> idk how or where, it's a bug with ubuntu 810 and ubuntu-based puppy 431
[09:22] <DasEi> !bug
[09:23] <bazhang> CruelCoke, considering neither of those are supported not sure how filing a bug will help
[09:23] <CruelCoke> ubuntu 810 - 8.10
[09:23] <bazhang> CruelCoke, its end of life
[09:23] <ssbpls> what is the different between Perl,Ruby and Python?
[09:24] <ssbpls> which is nicest?
[09:24] <bazhang> ssbpls, this is ubuntu support try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:24] <CruelCoke> sab, go to #perl, #ruby and #python
[09:24] <DasEi> ssbpls: different programming languages, but got to use google, too
[09:24] <ssbpls> ok
[09:24] <DasEi> ssbpls: and look at c++, too
[09:25] <industrial> I have issues with removing vim. I have compiled and installed the new vim 7.3 to ~/Applications/vim-7.3. When I want to remove vim from my system it wants to remove ubuntu-minimal. I do not know what else is in ubuntu-minimal but I just want vim gone so I can use my own from mercurial.
[09:25] <scompt> DasEi, there are dependencies on libicu38 & libkrb53 that aren't installable
[09:26] <CruelCoke> i'm unsure if this bug exists in 904, 910 or 104. network config keeps resetting netmask. the bug only occurs when the distro has been made into a bootable pendrive.
[09:26] <bazhang> CruelCoke, unetbootin has worked admirably in the still supported versions here
[09:27] <jhattara> DasEi, disk just broken? http://pastebin.com/5YEY9nt5
[09:27] <CruelCoke> kubuntu 10 failed to boot totally
[09:27] <bazhang> CruelCoke, using unetbootin?
[09:27] <CruelCoke> yes
[09:27] <Aliselyn> Jordan_U, RiverLaptop, sacarlson, thank all of y'all for all the help you've given me. my issue still isn't solved, so you will be seeing me again soon. Have a good night
[09:27] <bazhang> CruelCoke, sounds like a corrupt iso, or a bad 'burn' ; at times I've had to do it twice to get it working properly
[09:27] <CruelCoke> i have 810 burned to a cd, network works there. i unetbootined it (to escape the CD bottleneck), and network keeps resetting
[09:28] <DasEi> jhattara: seems so , read errors,  dirty / scratches ?
[09:28] <bazhang> CruelCoke, live usb?
[09:28] <CruelCoke> yes, used unetbootin to pull it on a pendrive
[09:28] <bazhang> CruelCoke, or you tried to install it
[09:29] <DasEi> scompt: there is a workaround for debian which I haven't tried myself, on your own risk we can try it
[09:29] <mihu> Hello everybody. I'm running 10.04.1 and today I noticed odd problems wrt. media playback. All media playback (flash in Firefox, mplayer, audacious2) is way too fast. It only takes about 1 second to playback 5 seconds of media.
[09:29] <mihu>  I did an update this morning. First I thought it might be related to the kernel update, so I booted an old kernel. But the problem persists. Any ideas?
[09:30] <CruelCoke> i put it to a pendrive with unetbootin. the ONLY issue is this unavoidable bug.
[09:30] <bazhang> CruelCoke, I suggest you get a supported version of Ubuntu then and try it with that
[09:30] <solow> I just connected my xbox 360 output via hdmi cabel to my pc, how can I 'see' what it's getting from the xbox
[09:30] <CruelCoke> sadly i lost the iso of 1004
[09:31] <solow> like, with what application
[09:31] <CruelCoke> mihu, try checking the clocking module
[09:31] <bazhang> CruelCoke, there are others available for download
[09:31] <jhattara> DasEi, the surface of the disc looks perfect and i can see something has been written there, but probably just corrupted
[09:31] <industrial> I have issues with removing vim. I have compiled and installed the new vim 7.3 to ~/Applications/vim-7.3. When I want to remove vim from my system it wants to remove ubuntu-minimal. I do not know what else is in ubuntu-minimal but I just want vim gone so I can use my own from mercurial.
[09:31] <scompt> DasEi, let's give it a shot
[09:31] <CruelCoke> relative clock might have been reset.
[09:32] <ajsie> what is the latest ubuntu called?
[09:32] <bazhang> !lucid
[09:32] <mihu> CruelCoke: I'd love to, but I don't know what to check exactly.
[09:32] <DasEi> scompt: lucid ?
[09:33] <scompt> DasEi, jo
[09:33] <CruelCoke> check the relative clocker in non-kernel modules
[09:33] <CruelCoke> refer to development wiki for how to check this.
[09:34] <mihu> CruelCoke: If I disable sound in mplayer via -ao none for example, playback is fine. So it seems that something is wrong with my audio clock or audio playback in general.
[09:34] <mihu> Hm, I can see "pulseaudio[4076]: ratelimit.c: 54 events suppressed" messages in the syslog.
[09:35] <CruelCoke> find audio clockers not in kernel, or find what software pumps the clocker"
[09:35] <DasEi> scompt: echo "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-proposed "| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:35] <DasEi> scompt: echo "deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-proposed"| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:36] <mihu> CruelCoke: Hm, if I use "mplayer -ao oss" then I have audio again.
[09:36] <DasEi> scompt: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:36] <industrial> How do I remove vim from my system? I need to update it with self compiled vim 7.3. I do not want to remove ubuntu-minimal.
[09:37] <CruelCoke> haha, if sound playback is fast, first thing to look at is audio clockers
[09:37] <scompt> DasEi, do I need 'main' at the end of those lines? otherwise I get a malformed line error
[09:37] <CruelCoke> if not that, sndcard overcooling
[09:37] <rww> scompt: yes
[09:37] <CruelCoke> try resetting BIOS to fall-safe defaults
[09:38] <CruelCoke> ugh, even a NOOB like me knows the ways of this bug...
[09:39] <Q_Continuum> So XChat, Tomboy Notes, and the Network Manager applet have all moved to the right of the power menu icon on my top bar.  (10.04) How do I get them to move back?  No right-click menu to move them with :-/
[09:39] <solow> Is there support for streaming media with xbox360?
[09:39] <DasEi> scompt: yes, needed, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:40] <DasEi> scompt: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-proposed
[09:40] <DasEi> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-proposed
[09:40] <scompt> DasEi, it wants to upgrade 70 packages, none of which are libicu38 or php5, is that right?
[09:41] <DasEi> scompt: strange, better stop it then, I don't want to break your system, or try a vm first
[09:41] <ajsie> ubottu: thanks
[09:41] <industrial> I have issues with removing vim. I have compiled and installed the new vim 7.3 to ~/Applications/vim-7.3. When I want to remove vim from my system it wants to remove ubuntu-minimal. I do not know what else is in ubuntu-minimal but I just want vim gone so I can use my own from mercurial.
[09:41] <LLStarks> how do i log a kernel panic?
[09:42] <scompt> DasEi, k, I'll try compiling it myself... thanks for the help
[09:43] <DasEi> scompt: as said, it's from a tutorial I haven't tried, so things could mess up, better try in a vm, which such massive changes
[09:46] <scompt> xampp beta has php 5.3.3... I might try using that to test
[09:46] <CruelCoke> ubottu, google netmask reset ubuntu
[09:47] <CruelCoke> it's not even doing "first found on Google"...
[09:47] <DasEi> scompt: that looks safer : https://launchpad.net/~zulcss/+archive/php5.3-lucid
[09:47] <derechtejohannes> hi is there a way to power down idle pci /pcie cards automatically?
[09:47] <DasEi> CruelCoke: /etc/network/interfaces let's you set the netmask
[09:48] <CruelCoke> i did the network wizard, it keeps resetting the netmask
[09:48] <scompt> DasEi, that's an older version of php, right? or can it be used to install any version?
[09:48] <DasEi> scompt: as you wanted, 5.3.1
[09:49] <CruelCoke> the bug ONLY occurs in UNETBOOTINed ubuntu 8.10 and Puppy 4.31
[09:49] <bazhang> CruelCoke, and those are not supported.
[09:49] <scompt> DasEi, I need 5.3.3... 5.3.2 is the current in lucid
[09:49] <rww> wow, dejavu all up in here
[09:49] <bazhang> indeed
[09:49] <CruelCoke> ubottu, ubuntu 8.10 network FAQ
[09:50] <bazhang> CruelCoke, please stop asking.
[09:50] <figure002> hello. i've just found out how to implement Ubuntu's applicationindicators in my python applications. the app. indicators support fallback, so if the user does not have it, it will fallback to the regular systray icon. i'm worried about on thing though, i need to call for the a module with "import appindicator". won't that pose a problem for people not on ubuntu?
[09:52] <CruelCoke> i'm not a coder
[09:52] <bazhang> CruelCoke, no matter. get a supported version. one is end of life (and thus no longer supported), the other is a derivative and never supported.
[09:52] <scompt> figure002, wrap it in a try-catch and catch the ImportError
[09:54] <figure002> scompt: allright, but that means i need extra code for the regular systray icon
[09:54] <figure002> scompt: correct?
[09:55] <scompt> figure002, I guess so
[09:55] <figure002> scompt: ok, thanks
[09:58] <domfliss> hi room, can I ask a question about dual booting?
[09:59] <ThinkTank> sure
[10:00] <Altreus> Apparently there's an option not to screenshot the cursor when pressing print screen. Where is that?
[10:00] <domfliss> thanks.  Can I remove xp in a dual boot setup?
[10:00] <ThinkTank> yeah sure
[10:01] <mihu> CruelCoke: The BIOS reset did not help. But removing  /var/lib/alsa/asound.state and/or ~/.pulse did the trick. After restarting with "pulseaudio -k" the sound is now fine again. It seems a strange sound card state was saved somehow.
[10:01] <ThinkTank> you wanna wipe the xp installation ?
[10:01] <domfliss> yes.  I don't use it that much
[10:01] <domfliss> gets slower as time goes on
[10:01] <domfliss> lol
[10:01] <ThinkTank> domfliss: indeed
[10:01] <Yud_Zroc> Is it posible to install/update a bios in ubuntu even though its only a .exe file (or do I need to reinstall windows to do so)
[10:02] <ThinkTank> there are two things you have to do
[10:02] <ThinkTank> first you have to edit your bootloader
[10:02] <ThinkTank> have you been messing with grub earlier ?
[10:02] <domfliss> grub?
[10:02] <ThinkTank> thats your bootloader
[10:02] <domfliss> no, I'm scared of it, lol
[10:02] <ThinkTank> hehe
[10:02] <ThinkTank> open a terminal
[10:03] <domfliss> ok
[10:03] <ThinkTank> then cd to /boot/grub
[10:03] <ThinkTank> and then ls
[10:03] <domfliss> I'm on a netbook, with external dvd
[10:03] <domfliss> lol
[10:04] <figure002> hello. is there a ubuntu channel specific for programming?
[10:04] <domfliss> what does ls do?
[10:04] <ThinkTank> do you have ubuntu on the external harddrive?
[10:04] <ThinkTank> ls lists the directory
[10:04] <domfliss> internal drive
[10:04] <well_laid_lawn> Yud_Zroc: normally there's an option to update the bios from a floppy
[10:04] <ThinkTank> its like dir on windoze
[10:04] <domfliss> lol, oh yeah.  Do I need to be in root?
[10:05] <ThinkTank> well if you have ubuntu you dont really use root you use something called sudo
[10:05] <Yud_Zroc> Well_laid its a laptop (and the bios is a zipped .exe file)
[10:05] <ThinkTank> then you act as if you were root
[10:05] <crekarasu> I accidentally closed sshd. how can I restart it?
[10:05] <ThinkTank> your terminal should say something like: ***@***:/boot/grub am i right ?
[10:06] <domfliss> let me try, lol, slow here
[10:06] <ThinkTank> where *** and *** are your username and computer name respectevly
[10:06] <ThinkTank> np :P
[10:06] <ixh> crekarasu: /etc/init.d/ssh start (as root)
[10:07] <mikebeecham> can someone remind me how to get rid of the password box when the screen goes to sleep?
[10:07] <ThinkTank> to summarize: cd /boot/grub (then hit enter), and then write ls then hit enter again
[10:07] <domfliss> dominic@dominic-laptop:~$ ls
[10:07] <domfliss> Desktop    Downloads         hardinfo_report.html  Pictures  Templates   Videos
[10:07] <domfliss> Documents  examples.desktop  Music                 Public    Ubuntu One
[10:07] <domfliss> it did that
[10:07] <ThinkTank> well you should write cd /boot/grub first
[10:07] <ThinkTank> and dont paste what you get
[10:07] <ThinkTank> its way to much
[10:08] <domfliss> ok, lol.  It's notgoing to delete nything?
[10:08] <ThinkTank> nope
[10:08] <ThinkTank> cd means change directory
[10:08] <crekarasu> ixh I came home but refused connection on port 22 everything I see
[10:09] <domfliss> wow
[10:09] <domfliss> loads of stuff
[10:09] <ThinkTank> domfliss: everytime you are unsure about a command somone tells you to use, you can do the following. Write man <command name> ex. man cd and it tells you what cd does
[10:09] <ThinkTank> yep
[10:10] <ThinkTank> you should now see alot of something somthing .mod right ?
[10:10] <ixh> crekarasu: what do you mean with "I came home"?
[10:10] <domfliss> thanks.  I'm really starting to love linux
[10:10] <ThinkTank> linux is the only choice for an os :P
[10:10] <domfliss> I have mac too.....cough cough
[10:10] <ThinkTank> me too
[10:10] <crekarasu> ixh start sshd but I made all my connection is refused on port 22
[10:10] <ThinkTank> with linux :P
[10:10] <ixh> crekarasu: maybe your sshd doesn't listen to your port or it isn't running
[10:11] <domfliss> lol, vmware or virtualbox?
[10:11] <ThinkTank> pure linux
[10:11] <ixh> crekarasu: have you once changed the sshd settings?
[10:11] <domfliss> lol, just like the case?
[10:11] <ThinkTank> yep
[10:11] <crekarasu> ixh and what can I do?
[10:11] <ThinkTank> anyways lets get back to the good stuff
[10:11] <domfliss> ok
[10:12] <ThinkTank> try and do a "sudo nano grub.cfg"
[10:12] <ThinkTank> without the ""
[10:12] <ThinkTank> nano is a text editor
[10:12] <ixh> crekarasu: in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, you should see what port sshd is listening to
[10:12] <ThinkTank> you will be prompted for your password
[10:12] <ThinkTank> you need that to be able to act as root
[10:12] <ixh> crekarasu: somewhere on line 5...
[10:13] <crekarasu> ixh tank you ! i can change it ?
[10:13] <ixh> crekarasu: as root, yes
[10:13] <ThinkTank> dont be scared of all the bullcrap in this file
[10:13] <ixh> crekarasu: what number was there?
[10:13] <domfliss> ok I am in.  says not to edit, lol
[10:13] <crekarasu> 32109
[10:14] <ixh> crekarasu: ^^ yeah, well then it was obvious it wouldn't work
[10:14] <ThinkTank> yep
[10:14] <ixh> crekarasu: after editing and saving, you'll have to restart the daemon
[10:14] <ThinkTank> gimme one sec here
[10:14] <crekarasu> ixh reboot linux ? or what restart ?
[10:14] <domfliss> ok
[10:14] <ixh> crekarasu: nonono -> /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[10:15] <crekarasu> ixh oh .. tanks
[10:15] <ixh> does it work now?
[10:15] <crekarasu> ixh now I try to change
[10:16] <ixh> crekarasu: change what?
[10:16] <crekarasu> ixh modify the port
[10:17] <ixh> crekarasu: ah, ok - you will have to edit the file as root
[10:17] <ThinkTank> domfliss: in the old days this is what you used to do. They changed it thought using scripts that generate this file. press CTRL + X to exit nano
[10:17] <ThinkTank> they made it even easier
[10:17] <domfliss> ok
[10:18] <ThinkTank> cd /etc/grub.d/
[10:18] <Duckling> Hey there, Im currently deciding what distro to use, I was wondering, how much work is it to get rid of all the unneccesary stuff installed when doing a fresh ubuntu install?
[10:18] <ThinkTank> one thing i have to tip you about using terminal. use tab as much as possible
[10:18] <ThinkTank> tab is autocompletion
[10:19] <ThinkTank> so if you start writing /et and hit tab it will autocomplete, and when you have /etc/ you write gru and then tab and its gonna autocomplete grub
[10:19] <ThinkTank> you should play around a little with that
[10:19] <ThinkTank> its gonna save you a lot of time in the future
[10:19] <ixh> Duckling: depending on what you see as "unneccesary" :-)
[10:19] <domfliss> ok, just typing it
[10:19] <Jordan_U> domfliss: Add a line containing "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true" to /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub"
[10:19] <loutasker> Duckling: are you new to linux? what do you deem as unneccesary, and what is this system for?
[10:20] <Duckling> the system is a desktop computer, for day-to-day stuff, and Im not "new" to linux, I just havent taken the full step over yet
[10:20] <domfliss> ok
[10:20] <loutasker> if its merely a desktop on modern hardware, then slimming down of the distro shouldn't be neccesary.
[10:21] <loutasker> then Duckling, you needn't worry about "slimming" down
[10:21] <Duckling> also, I dont really like to have all these programs I never use on my menus
[10:21] <loutasker> however, i would stick to single CD installers, rather than DVDs or multiple CDs
[10:22] <loutasker> Ubuntu is reasonably small
[10:22] <loutasker> it has the essentials
[10:22] <Oer> Duckling, uninstall it, should that be any problem ?
[10:22] <domfliss> If I have a live cd, could I just install over it?
[10:22] <loutasker> easy to add or remove applications through synaptic should they be an issue
[10:22] <Duckling> Oer, I dont know, you tell me  ;)
[10:22] <domfliss> I mean assign all the space to ubuntu?
[10:22] <ixh> Duckling: by using the package manager, it's only a thing of one command ^^
[10:22] <Duckling> ok
[10:23] <Duckling> thank you
[10:23] <loutasker> no worries
[10:23] <ThinkTank> domfliss: yeah sure if you dont wanna tinker with the system. And if you wanna do the hassle with doing backup
[10:23] <domfliss> oh
[10:23] <domfliss> lol
[10:23] <ixh> Duckling: you know how to use apt-get or Synaptic?
[10:23] <Duckling> ya
[10:23] <domfliss> typical windoze user, lol
[10:23] <ThinkTank> hehe
[10:24] <Duckling> Ive been using debian some in the past
[10:24] <domfliss> let me plug charger in
[10:24] <ThinkTank> do you have anything on ubuntu that you need to backup
[10:24] <mneisen> Hi, I run a server on 9.10 and have noticed that atd is now started using upstart. Problem is, that the config in /etc/default/atd does not seem to be included so atd runs with the standard parameters (only start batch jobs when load is < 1.5; start batch jobs 60 secs apart) which are not quite satisfying on a big SMP machine. Is there any way to get the upstart-script to read the config in /etc/default/atd? Is there any other way to configure 
[10:24] <mneisen> when using upstart ? Thanks in advance!
[10:25] <domfliss> on ubuntu yeah, lol
[10:26] <domfliss> guess I should have backed up and then asked for help, lol
[10:26] <ThinkTank> well its not a problem really
[10:26] <domfliss> it's like using dos again#
[10:26] <ThinkTank> you can fix the dualboot and then remove windows and resize your partition
[10:27] <domfliss> yeah
[10:28] <ThinkTank> ok lets do what Jordan_U told you
[10:28] <mikebeecham> why oh why oh why is the Banshee icon stil a problem in 10.04?  Does anyone know if there's a fix for it?
[10:29] <domfliss> oh I didn't see that.  Thanks Jordon_U
[10:29] <Jordan_U> domfliss: You're welcome.
[10:29] <ThinkTank> write sudo echo "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true" >> /etc/default/grub
[10:29] <ThinkTank> and then sudo update-grub
[10:29] <ThinkTank> as he said
[10:30] <domfliss> this will remove my xp boot option?
[10:30] <ThinkTank> yeah
[10:30] <ThinkTank> but will not remove xp itsealf
[10:30] <ThinkTank> itself
[10:30] <domfliss> ok,damn, better get my files off xp with my usb stick.  I'm doing this the wrong way round
[10:30] <domfliss> sorrry
[10:30] <ThinkTank> np
[10:31] <ThinkTank> just remember the command i sent you
[10:31] <ThinkTank> the two commands
[10:31] <ThinkTank> sudo echo one and sudo update-grub
[10:31] <ThinkTank> in that order
[10:31] <ThinkTank> then its gone from boot
[10:31] <ThinkTank> and do that after you have backed up xp
[10:31] <crekarasu> ixh work's! tank you !
[10:32] <Quilz> Does anyone have any experience with a Toshiba Satellite A30 (laptop)? I have the Xubuntu 10.04 live CD but none of the boot options seem to work.
[10:32] <ThinkTank> Quilz: whats the error messagE?
[10:32] <Jordan_U> ThinkTank: Running echo as root won't change the fact that the shell, which would be writing to /etc/default/grub in your command, is running as your regular user. You want something like: echo "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true" | sudo tee -a /etc/default/grub
[10:32] <shawnboy> How do I list what updates are available using aptitude and CLI?
[10:32] <ghostlines> enabling ssl on apache with a2enmod ssl, should be enough to allow ssl to work with the default snake oil certifcate right? But can't seem to get it working
[10:32] <spajderix> hi
[10:32] <domfliss> I can copy my files from xp to linux, wow
[10:33] <domfliss> doing it now, will take it a while, sorry again
[10:33] <ThinkTank> Jordan_U: I stand corrected
[10:33] <Quilz> Ah, there is no error message, I just get a blank screen forever and the CPU runs hot.
[10:33] <Jordan_U> ThinkTank: But especially for newer users I think it's safer to just use an editor with "gksudo gedit" or "sudo nano".
[10:34] <Bauldrick> how do i get a media server (firefly or mediatomb) to show up in rythmbox?
[10:34] <ThinkTank> Jordan_U: Propably, just thinking if you could give them a full command that does the trick is gonna remove the chance of misstyping or touching something in the file that shouldnt be touched
[10:34] <spajderix> I have Asus X50N Notebook, Turion 2x1.8 64Bit, 3GB RAM, Nvidia 7000 with wlan and bluetooth, but bluetooth doesn't work. System>preferences>Bluetooth shows no bluetooth adapters. Is there a way to fix this?
[10:36] <Oer> spajderix, does that asus have a FN key for enable disable blue tooth ?
[10:36] <Quilz> Okay, I got it to boot by ticking noapic.
[10:36] <domfliss> transfering 9gigs
[10:36] <ixh> crekarasu: you're welcome ^^
[10:37] <spajderix> Oer: it has a siwtch on left side, to on/off wireless devices
[10:37] <domfliss> is it my imagination or does xp make my netbook run hotter?
[10:37] <spajderix> Oer: it is on by the way :P
[10:37] <Oer> spajderix, just checking
[10:37] <ThinkTank> domfliss: shouldnt but wouldnt be suprised
[10:38] <shawnboy> Anybody know how to use CLI and aptitude to list available updates?
[10:38] <domfliss> I gave up on linux a while back, because I installed it and hen removed it wrongly. I then couldn't install xp or linux even after doing fdisk
[10:40] <spajderix> shawnboy: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will show you packages before proceeding
[10:40] <ljsoftnet> sudo apt-get remove msttcorefonts xdg-utils if i execute this command will this break ubuntu?
[10:40] <shawnboy> spajderix: ok. thanks.
[10:40] <Oer> spajderix, paste the output of:  lspci | grep -i bluetooth
[10:41] <acidflash> hello people, i am running ubuntu 10.04 x64 server.. whenever i format & mount my filesystem, and do a bunch of chown'ning, after i restart the computer everything is reset to default.. how come ?
[10:41] <domfliss> 4 gigs done
[10:42] <spajderix> Oer: no output :/
[10:42] <tensorpudding> acidflash: what filesystem is it? what do you mean my "format and mount"
[10:43] <Oer> spajderix, odd, it shoud be lspci, not usb, but you can give it a try ?
[10:44] <spajderix> Oer: lsusb gives nothing as well
[10:44] <spajderix> Oer: I don't know if it has something to do with it but cat /sys/devices/platform/asus_laptop/bluetooth gives 1
[10:45] <domfliss> 2 mins left
[10:45] <spajderix> Oer: another interesting thing; before upgrading to 10.04 i had 8.04 and lspci showed something with bluetooth, but there were no drivers for 64 bit at that time
[10:45] <Renski> Hey all. Im trying to install ubunutu-netbook onto a netbook, which works fine after a little messing around with the wireless card. However, id like to have full disk encryption but all the guide ive read say 'use the alternative install disk'. However thats only for server and desktop ubuntu. How can I get LVM encryption with netbook-ubuntu?
[10:46] <Niglop> is there a way to roll back my system?
[10:47] <spajderix> Renski: I would recommend only homedir encryption because when you encrypt all binary files that need to be fired every boot, you will slow down your OS. Tested it.
[10:47] <ljsoftnet> sudo apt-get remove msttcorefonts xdg-utils if i execute this command will this break ubuntu?
[10:47] <erUSUL> acidflash: what type of filesystem ?
[10:47] <DasEi> Renski: you can do it by hand, but that's quite a complicated think, I'd rather use the alternate and then re-set the repos afterward to get the x for netbooks back
[10:47] <acidflash> ext 4
[10:47] <DasEi> thing*
[10:47] <Renski> spajderix: I would love that, but it's a requirement for the kind of work I do to have full disk, swap included
[10:48] <acidflash> tensorpudding: sorry, its ext 4
[10:48] <acidflash> erUSUL: its ext 4
[10:49] <erUSUL> acidflash: you will have to be more precise on what you actually do. becouse ext4 will "remember" chown operations
[10:49] <Renski> DasEi: yeah, that sounds easier
[10:49] <domfliss> ok all done
[10:49] <DasEi> Renski: if you want to do it by hand, half to do install ubu on one half of disk, then crypt the other half, then copy it over... not worth the work, and also tell grub to use the mapper then, real no quick walk
[10:51] <spajderix> acidflash: it depends on what you chown, because there are a few dirs that are created on bootup, like /proc/ /sys/ or /var/run/, mount should show you these
[10:51] <DasEi> Renski: just for a try, didi you try to boot the regular desktop cd (concerning usability of your screen ) ?
[10:51] <Renski> no
[10:51] <Renski> Can I try that with the alternate cd?
[10:51] <Niglop> is there a way to roll back my system?
[10:51] <Renski> or will I need to burn that as well?
[10:51] <spajderix> acidflash: that's why it migh seem to you as it is reseting
[10:51] <Niglop> %?
[10:51] <DasEi> Renski: so check that out first, if you can still get by with scrolling on it, try the textinstaller
[10:52] <Renski> kk
[10:52] <Renski> thanks DasEi
[10:52] <acidflash> spajderix: what i am doing is chown /var/logs/squid3
[10:52] <DasEi> Renski: and if your book supports boot from usb, save some disks
[10:52] <DasEi> !unetbootin
[10:52] <Renski> DasEi: my flat is full of old CD-Rs
[10:52] <DasEi> :)
[10:52] <Renski> I need to get rid of some :)
[10:52] <stetho> I've got a cheap USB to 9-pin serial converter from Maplin for my Ubuntu laptop. When I plug it in, dmesg reports it's "now available as /dev/ttyUSB0" but I can't talk to any devices I connect to it. Anyone have any experience with this - should I try a different terminal app (I've tried a few I've found with apt-cache search terminal/tty/serial etc)?
[10:53] <acidflash> erUSUL: What i am doing is i am mounting sda, sdc etc... to certain folders: ie /cache/squida
[10:53] <spajderix> acidflash: squid might chown as well when starting, plus there is a logrotate, which backups your log files and create new ones. Anyway you shouldn't chown log files
[10:54] <acidflash> spajderix: I have to.. otherwise i have to change the log dir...
[10:54] <[mu]keiserr> hi i followed this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo i still can't mount my nfs shared folder
[10:54] <domfliss> hi think, I am done copying,lol
[10:54] <KnightStalker> Hello,while trying to install Ubuntu 9.1 it will tell me There is no disk in the drive.Please insert a disk into drive \Device\Harddisk2\DR2,any reasons? :(,I had the same problem on anothpr VAIO Laptop
[10:54] <[mu]keiserr> error mount.nfs: mount system call failed
[10:54] <erUSUL> stetho: i only know of two serial com programs in the repos. minicom and cu
[10:54] <erUSUL> !info minicom | stetho
[10:54] <erUSUL> !info cu
[10:55] <[mu]keiserr> 111 and 2049 are runnign and listening globally
[10:55] <KnightStalker> !info vaio
[10:55] <KnightStalker> !vaio
[10:55] <antagomir> hmm
[10:57] <stetho> Thanks - haven't tried cu
[10:58] <spitzi> Hi guys. I'm trying to follow instructions on http://gparted.sourceforge.net/docs/help-manual/C/gparted.html#gparted-fix-grub-boot-problem , but I don't understand how I can invoke grub so that it referes to my other harddisk, where gparted moved  a partition.
[10:58] <erUSUL> stetho: minicom failed ?
[10:59] <erUSUL> spitzi: follow the intruction on the grub2 wiki page
[10:59] <erUSUL> !grub2 | spitzi
[11:00] <ljsoftnet> im stuck at Silkroad Guard when starting silkroad, can anybody help me?
[11:01] <spitzi> erUSUL - ok ... that's long ...
[11:01] <cyq> ow crap, am i the only one whos network scripts are borked after the latest kern update?
[11:01] <erUSUL> spitzi: is the point 11 reinstalling grub
[11:02] <DasEi> still around ? Renski:
[11:02] <erUSUL> spitzi: there are three diff methods choose one
[11:02] <hramrach> Hello
[11:02] <Renski> DasEi: yeah, just working across the room on the netbook
[11:02] <hramrach> what is the ubuntu from M?
[11:03] <DasEi> Renski: lucky day, I just do an install by alternate and saw it's got option netbook !!
[11:03] <bazhang> !maverick | hramrach
[11:03] <hramrach> Lucid has ancient Mesa
[11:03] <Renski> DasEi: Sweet
[11:03] <hramrach> thanks
[11:03] <Renski> DasEi: I figured it only had desktop
[11:03] <acidflash> i am going to paste my steps etc, so that i can benefit to the max from your knowledge.
[11:04] <DasEi> Renski: lates 10.04.1, just d/l  it today.. expert install lets you set just the soft you want, and netbook is a possible option :)
[11:04] <Renski> yeah, thats the one im burning right now
[11:05] <Renski> I guess they've got more room on the CD for extra packages and more options without the fancy install gui
[11:06] <Jordan_U> Renski: No, anything other than the standard Ubuntu desktop packages are installed from the internet.
[11:06] <spitzi> erUSUL - I'm currently running 9.04 from one harddisk, the problematic partition /dev/sdb5 is 9.10 installed on another harddisk. Should I be able to fix grub2 on the other harddisk by invoking "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb5" from 9.04 ?
[11:06] <Renski> Jordan_U: Ah, better  digging out an ethernet cable then
[11:08] <erUSUL> spitzi: 9.04 still used grub1 maybe it will lack the tools.
[11:08] <Jordan_U> spitzi: You almost never want to install grub to a partition.
[11:08] <domedagen> How do I add an application from the application menu to one of its sub folder
[11:09] <spitzi> erUSUL, Jordan_U - then my best bet would be to run a 9.10 livecd and from it invoke some simple "grub-fix" command ?
[11:09] <domedagen> Edit menus then?
[11:09] <acidflash> erUSUL: hrmm, not putting the info in fstab, that wouldl cause it not to showup on restart right?
[11:09] <Jordan_U> spitzi: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[11:10] <acidflash> erUSUL: would it change ownership of directories that really have nothing to do with the fdisk/ mount work
[11:10] <erUSUL> acidflash: correct. for a partition to be mounted on boot you have to add an entry for it in fstab
[11:10] <Jordan_U> spitzi: You can follow that guide from 9.04, since it uses chroot it will be using the grub utilities from 9.10.
[11:10] <erUSUL> !fstab
[11:10] <Bauldrick> how do you purge packages that are no longer installed
[11:11] <erUSUL> Bauldrick: you can not afaik
[11:11] <spitzi> Jordan_U - too tired to read all this ... maybe I'll just reinstall Ubuntu 9.10. Was hoping there was some quick command I can run.
[11:11] <Jordan_U> spitzi: And make sure you install to "/dev/sdb" and *not* "/dev/sdb5".
[11:11] <Renski> encrypted LVM  is fully disk encryption, correct?
[11:11] <ljsoftnet> im stuck at Silkroad Guard when starting silkroad
[11:12] <Renski> *full
[11:12] <Renski> as in nothing except the boot loader is left in clear?
[11:14] <spitzi> Jordan_U - ok, that's what I just did. I'll rebot now, see if it worked ... thanks, BRB.
[11:14] <DasEi> !who| Renski
[11:14] <DasEi> Renski : yes, /boot remains plain, rest is crypted and done by lvm
[11:14] <Renski> that was an open question
[11:14] <ljsoftnet> how do i run .exe file, when i have wine installed?
[11:14] <erUSUL> ljsoftnet: double click on it
[11:15] <Renski> DasEi: Do you know what form of encryption it uses?
[11:15] <DasEi> ljsoftnet: wine blah.exe, if supported, latest wine ? checked winedb ?
[11:15] <DasEi> Renski: yes, luks, aes256 in default
[11:15] <Renski> DasEi: ah cool, same as true crypt then
[11:15] <DasEi> !winedb | ljsoftnet
[11:16] <erUSUL> !appdb > ljsoftnet
[11:16] <DasEi> Renski: the aes, yes, but a different way to open partitions (luksopen, whereas tc has it's own syntax)
[11:18] <plaisthos> hey
[11:18] <njbair> is anybody using shotwell yet?
[11:18] <plaisthos> when I log in into a server it says
[11:18] <plaisthos> "*** System restart required ***
[11:18] <plaisthos> does anyone which script is used to generate this warning?
[11:19] <plaisthos> and if there is nagios plugin that could check if a reboot is needed?
[11:19] <erUSUL> plaisthos: kernel upgrade today. probably the postinst scripts of the kernel package
[11:21] <plaisthos> erUSUL: ah thanks
[11:21] <spitzi> Jordan_U, well, it only copied the grub info from the active disk to the non-active disk :-) Not quite what I wanted. Can I just somehow remove grub from the other disk, so that when botting from it, the Linux parition will boot automatically ?
[11:21] <plaisthos> erUSUL: did not notice that this was in the /etc/motd :(
[11:24] <white_magic> is installing ubuntu off a usb drive a needlessly painful process?
[11:24] <bazhang> white_magic, no
[11:24] <white_magic> good to hear
[11:24] <abhijit> hi
[11:24] <bazhang> white_magic, try unetbootin
[11:25] <white_magic> ok
[11:25] <bazhang> white_magic, current OS?
[11:25] <bazhang> ie windows, ubuntu, etc
[11:26] <white_magic> current main os is win7 x64 ultimate
[11:26] <white_magic> i plan to dual boot
[11:26] <white_magic> i dont want to waste one of my rewritable discis
[11:26] <white_magic> discs
[11:26] <bazhang> unetbootin.sourceforge.net has a windows version
[11:26] <white_magic> i dont have just recordables
[11:26] <white_magic> what do you mean windows version?
[11:26] <abhijit> is second life is in repo?
[11:26] <bazhang> can create a usb pendrive from windows
[11:27] <white_magic> aha
[11:27] <white_magic> nice
[11:27] <spitzi> Anyway, my problem now is that I have a Linux partition on /dev/sdb5 which is bootable, but grub on /dev/sdb is "bad", so I just want to remove grub from there and let linux boto directly from that partition. Yes can do ?
[11:28] <manolopm> Hi, I'm trying to personalize my livecd based on ubuntu one. There is any documentation to change the content of the home directory of the default user?
[11:30] <abhijit> hello
[11:30] <abhijit> i was disconnected
[11:30] <abhijit> is second life is in repo?
[11:30] <bazhang> abhijit, apt-cache search second
[11:34] <domfliss> hi guys, trying to remove my xp safely from my dual boot setup, I did have some help, but I couldn't finish, any change of some help
[11:36] <domfliss>  Add a line containing "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true" to /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub that was my last command to do
[11:36] <sacarlson> isn't there something like Universal USB Installer for ubuntu or at least something that will enable me to create a persistant bootable usb flash drive install?  every link I find on google is pointing me to Universal USB Installer that is an exe file that runs in windows.
[11:36] <spitzi> domflissh - thanks, will try
[11:36] <abhijit> !usb | sacarlson
[11:36] <domfliss> nooo
[11:37] <bazhang> sacarlson, check that last link
[11:37] <domfliss> that wasn't for you, lol
[11:37] <abhijit> !who | domfliss
[11:37] <sacarlson> bazhang: and the rest of you thanks I'll check the last one.
[11:37] <domfliss> oops sorry ubotto
[11:38] <Renski> :0
[11:38] <spitzi> So, ah, any other advice for me ? :-)
[11:38] <domfliss> ubotto can you help me in removing xp from my dual boot system?
[11:38] <Renski> lol
[11:38] <abhijit> domfliss, ubottu is bot
[11:39] <domfliss> damn.  They grow up so fast!!
[11:39] <domfliss> Renski, could you help me?
[11:40] <Renski> I could try, though im not much of a guru. What is it you're trying to do?
[11:40] <abhijit> !details | domfliss
[11:40] <domfliss> remove xp from my dual boot system
[11:40] <Renski> domfliss: ok, so you just want ubuntu?
[11:41] <domfliss> yeah.  I had XP on first and then install Ubuntu, but now I use Ubuntu all the time, lol
[11:41] <JonathanEllis> I am trying to add a PPA repository to my software sources. I have downloaded the key to a folder but I cant import it. From the software sources window I have clicked on the Authentication tab and clicked Import Key File. However, when I navigate to the folder, the key is not visible. The key has been saved as ~/Desktop/key.txt and I am trying to install a more recent version of openoffice into hardy using the instructions at http://news.softpedia.com/
[11:41] <white_magic> hey guys, i currently had a 320, 640, and 1TB hard drive in my desktop. currently my win7 lives in on the 320gb. to be perfectly safe, I was thinking I'd move the windows to the 640gb drive, install ubuntu on the 320 and use both the 1TB and the 640gb for storage (since I probably couldnt use ubuntu's ext3/4 for storage from within windows). is this a good plan?
[11:41] <Renski> domfliss: Well, the easiest way would be to copy all your important data onto a usb stick, and then do a fresh reinstall
[11:41] <abhijit> Renski, no
[11:42] <white_magic> also, i could avoid the whole bootloader issue by just specifying which HDD to boot from (and disconnect other HDDs while installing ubuntu)
[11:42] <abhijit> domfliss, do you have any imp data on xp partition?
[11:42] <domfliss> no, I copied it over to linux
[11:42] <Bergcube> Where are the configuration files for Empathy in Ubuntu 10.04?  Seeing as there is no .empathy folder...
[11:43] <abhijit> domfliss, then why dont you just go go gparted, umnount xp and delte it and create new partitin there? or you can extend your current linux partition to that free space?
[11:43] <JonathanEllis> white_magic: DO you already have ubuntu installed?
[11:43] <domfliss> oh ok, but I will still get grub asking me which to install?
[11:43] <white_magic> i do not
[11:43] <abhijit> domfliss, you currently have both xp and ubuntu installed ? right?
[11:44] <domfliss> yeah, xp was installed first
[11:44] <domfliss> then I went to ubuntu
[11:44] <JonathanEllis> white_magic: OK. In that case, when ubuntu installs it will detect your windows installation and add a line into the bootloader for it. So when you boot you will have the choice of loading windows or ubuntu
[11:44] <abhijit> domfliss, wait
[11:44] <JonathanEllis> white_magic: so dont bother disconnecting the drives. Grub will sort all that out for you automatically
[11:45] <abhijit> domfliss, see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=485514
[11:45] <JonathanEllis> white_magic: As to moving windows onto a different hard drive - why not? But also why bother?
[11:45] <domfliss> abhijit sudo echo "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true" >> /etc/default/grub that was a command I was given
[11:45] <abhijit> domfliss, as i guess you may only need to update grub or reinstall grub nothing else. its so simple just delete xp from gparted
[11:45] <white_magic> jonathan: the moving part is to allocate more space for the windows drive since linux can access ntfs, but windows cant access ext, right?
[11:46] <domfliss> is it safe?lol
[11:46] <JonathanEllis> white_magic: There is an ext2 driver for windows if you want windows to be able to see your ext2 or ext3 partitions but I dont think it will work with ext4. You might want to stick with ext3 for your shared data
[11:47] <abhijit> domfliss,yes
[11:47] <domfliss> thanks, let me try, Gulp!!
[11:49] <white_magic> what does ext4 offer over ext3?
[11:49] <white_magic> i think i can dedicate 320gigs to linux
[11:49] <jatt> corruption
[11:49] <white_magic> jatt: i take it you had a bad experience?
[11:49] <jatt> yes
[11:49] <white_magic> is that a common one?
[11:49] <abhijit> white_magic, no
[11:50] <white_magic> what would cause it becoem corrupted?
[11:50] <white_magic> to become corrupted, i mean
[11:50] <Bergcube> I have experienced noticeably better speed, and no problems with ext4...
[11:50] <elbatico1> hy, everyone
[11:50] <JonathanEllis> white_magic: I suggest you make separate root, home and swap partitions for ubuntu. If you want windows to be able to see your home partition you could format home as ntfs or install the ext2 driver into windows. I dont know what advantages ext4 has over ext3. Sorry but you will need to google that. I think ext4 is pretty new so I am not trusting it yet. Also it is not readable by some older linux distributions.
[11:50] <geemee> OK folks. I have an ubuntu 10.04 fresh desktop install and it is connected by VPN. SSH is fine but remote desktop doesnt prompt for password set and gives black screen. Using SSH how can I fix this to setup VNC on the machine to access remotely?
[11:50] <abhijit> JonathanEllis, you had asked some question about gpg key authentication?
[11:51] <white_magic> apparently ext4 can be read in windows, according to this page: http://www.soluvas.com/read-browse-explore-open-ext2-ext3-ext4-partition-filesystem-from-windows-7/
[11:51] <JonathanEllis> abhijit: Yes. I need to import a key (key.txt) but the sources window doesnt see the file
[11:52] <abhijit> JonathanEllis, see this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1221323.html
[11:52] <Bergcube> Where are the configuration files for Empathy in Ubuntu 10.04?  (Apologies for repeating myself.)
[11:52] <JonathanEllis> white_magic: Well thats news to me. Of course my knowledge of windows is rather out of date. I stopped with winxp
[11:53] <white_magic> yea the biggest driving factor for me is that my university has this annoying cisco clean network app that they force windows users to have before they can use the internet
[11:53] <white_magic> this stupid app works half the time and even when it does, it takes a few minutes every time to inspect everything..
[11:53] <white_magic> apparently linx & mac users dont have to deal with it
[11:53] <white_magic> *linux
[11:55] <JonathanEllis> white_magic: Well, try Ubuntu. You might like it. I've been using it for a couple of years and I hate windows now: It seems so clunky and hard to use in some respects now that I use Ubuntu
[11:55] <elbatico1> I have an issue about my radeon driver: i use ubuntu 10.4, i want to enable 3D accelleration but i can't find i right way. The xorg.conf it's setup correctly, i'm sure, when i try to check if 3D accelleration it's working the command glxinfo answer "name display 0.0   segmentation fault" I really don't get it. Can anyone help me out??
[11:55] <domfliss> abhijit, my mount point is in windows media on gparted.  If I remove it will I still be able to boot up?
[11:56] <white_magic> jonathan: i've used ubuntu before. its just gaming that stopped me. but now i sold my uber video card, so that is not a factor
[11:56] <abhijit> domfliss, i am not sure. i dont konw. you ask someone else.
[11:56] <abhijit> domfliss, have you seen the forum link i have given to you?
[11:56] <domfliss> thanks. abhijit
[11:56] <white_magic> im not sure how my creative x-fi card will do, though. last time i had to recompile the kernel to make it work halfway
[11:56] <white_magic> that was about 2 years ago
[11:57] <domfliss> yeah, but I don't know if ubuntu was installed and then xp or te other way around
[11:57] <JonathanEllis> abhijit: Thanks. That deals with downloading a key from a key server. Thats not my issue. The key I need is not on a keyserver. I just downloaded the key direct from a webpage, so the key is in a file on my desktop. The file is called key.txt. Perhaps the issue is that the key does not have the right filename extension. Any idea what it should be?
[11:57] <Gnea> domfliss: check timestamps
[11:57] <abhijit> JonathanEllis, why dont you just type the key manualy?
[11:58] <domfliss> thanks Gnea, new stuff, timestamps?
[11:58] <JonathanEllis> white_magic: You may find that by now that card works ok with current versions of ubuntu. You might be able to search for the card
[11:58] <white_magic> yea im working on it
[11:58] <JonathanEllis> abhijit: I didnt know you could do that. How?
[11:58] <Gnea> domfliss: open a terminal, type ls -l  it shows creation date and time for each and every file/directory.
[11:58] <Gnea> domfliss: I would just do a ls -l /
[11:59] <JonathanEllis> white_magic: So what do you need to know?
[11:59] <abhijit> JonathanEllis, i also forget that now. but i remember typing the key manual in terminal you just go thru  that link
[11:59] <domfliss> gnea oh, on mine it was xp first then ubuntu dev/sda2
[11:59] <white_magic> nothing, im just venting. i apparently ALSA doesn't work properly
[11:59] <white_magic> still
[12:00] <elbatico1> sorry.. can anyone help me out with an issue about my graphic card?? Please
[12:00] <Gnea> domfliss: there ya go
[12:00] <Zed_> !ask
[12:01] <elbatico1>  I have an issue about my radeon driver: i use ubuntu 10.4, i want to enable 3D accelleration but i can't find i right way. The xorg.conf it's setup correctly, i'm sure, when i try to check if 3D accelleration it's working the command glxinfo answer "name display 0.0   segmentation fault" I really don't get it. Can anyone help me out??
[12:01] <abhijit> any good video and file/software download manager for linux/
[12:01] <abhijit> ?
[12:01] <domfliss> gnea so I can delete sda1, then move the slider on gparted to get the space?
[12:02] <abhijit> domfliss, just for you info that resizing a partition take a looooooooooot time depend on the size of the resizing partition.
[12:02] <white_magic> abhijit: try jdownloader, since it written in java
[12:02] <white_magic> http://jdownloader.org/download/index
[12:02] <Gnea> domfliss: I wouldn't do it unless sda2 is backed up first
[12:02] <white_magic> also, uTorrent works great with WINE and linux has other great torrent clients like Deluge
[12:03] <white_magic> for FTP, check out filezilla
[12:03] <zphinx> Hey folks, for some reason i cant connect to my wp2 wireless network, even tho my network card shows up with lshw
[12:03] <frogzoo> gnochm: Depends: python-gtkhtml2 but it is not installable - booo....
[12:03] <Gnea> !ftp
[12:03] <domfliss> gnea I wish this was easy
[12:03] <domfliss> lol
[12:03] <Gnea> domfliss: it *IS* easy LOL
[12:03] <frogzoo> zphinx: broadcom?
[12:04] <domfliss> gnea, ok I don't backup, can I do it? lol
[12:04] <abhijit> white_magic, ok
[12:04] <Gnea> domfliss: you can do it, but you risk deleting *everything*
[12:04] <zphinx> rt2860 RaLink according to lshw -C network
[12:04] <abhijit> brb
[12:04] <white_magic> too bad foobar2000 isn't ported to linux
[12:05] <white_magic> that app is to die for
[12:05] <domfliss> gea but if I delete just that extension, surely the other is safe?
[12:05] <Gnea> domfliss: only if you do it right.
[12:05] <zphinx> any idea frogzoo?
[12:06] <domfliss> gnea, lol, that's what my wife says!
[12:06] <Gnea> hahaha
[12:06] <domfliss> gnea, still no kids, lolol
[12:06] <andre_pl> is anyone using the PS3-Eye camera under ubuntu? I justplugged mine in and to my surprise it works wonders except that dmesg shows it finding a USB audio device (the microphone) but i can't seem to get any sound out of it, lil help?
[12:07] <Gnea> domfliss: well, it's eaiser to backup a partition than it is, ah, something else ;)
[12:07] <Gnea> *easier
[12:07] <domfliss> gnea, yeah at least I can do this sitting down!
[12:07] <Gnea> we're on the border of TMI lol
[12:08] <crekarasu> how I can install curl please ?
[12:08] <domfliss> gnea, yeah you're right.  Well I'm kinda chickening out.  Last time I did this I was left with a system which couldn't install anything
[12:08] <Gnea> crekarasu: sudo apt-get install curl  in a terminal
[12:08] <crekarasu> Gnea Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/curl/curl_7.15.5-1etch2_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 35.9.37.225 80]
[12:08] <crekarasu> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[12:09] <Gnea> crekarasu: run sudo apt-get update, try again
[12:09] <crekarasu> Gnea W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[12:09] <crekarasu> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:09] <Gnea> amazing.
[12:10] <crekarasu> Gnea what can I do ?
[12:10] <nobarking> should i defragment an NTFS partition that Ubuntu reads and writes to?
[12:10] <Gnea> crekarasu: did you see what I said?
[12:10] <iElectric> how can I remove/purge a package that fails to do so?
[12:10] <crekarasu> apt-get update ? Gnea ?
[12:10] <iElectric> status in aptitude is Cd
[12:10] <Gnea> crekarasu: yes.
[12:10] <dalela> Hi
[12:11] <zphinx> Hey folks, for some reason i cant connect to my wp2 wireless network, even tho my network card shows up with lshw?
[12:11] <crekarasu> Gnea i tried and don't work
[12:11] <Gnea> crekarasu: with sudo?
[12:11] <crekarasu> Gnea yes
[12:11] <Gnea> crekarasu: please use pastebin to show me the error, do not paste in the channel again.
[12:11] <Gnea> !pastebin
[12:11] <crekarasu> Gnea oke
[12:12] <crekarasu> Gnea http://paste.ubuntu.com/480903/
[12:12] <dalela> If I am running a server and want to keep the sever up to date (e.g. to prevent securtiy holes etc.) does a "apt get update && apt-get upgrade" is enough?
[12:13] <tarzeau> dalela: yes but you'll have to monitor it's output
[12:13] <Gnea> crekarasu: please to be asking this in #debian, we only support Ubuntu here. thanks.
[12:14] <dalela> tarzeau: What should I look for? if there occur errors?
[12:14] <crekarasu> Gnea oke, tank you
[12:14] <tarzeau> dalela: fix the errors...
[12:16] <dalela> tarzeau: okay
[12:16] <dalela> yes if there are errors I fix them, but currently there are no errors ;)
[12:16] <dalela> thans
[12:16] <dalela> *thanks
[12:16] <tarzeau> perfect, you're welcome
[12:17] <dalela> tarzeau: when do I need a apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:17] <andre_pl> anyone have any tips on getting a usb mic to work under ubuntu? the one built into my cam doesn't appear to work
[12:17] <tarzeau> dalela: when you want to upgrade between distribution releases
[12:18] <tarzeau> dalela: that's when lucid gets marvick, and you are sure you want to upgrade
[12:18] <bazhang> tarzeau, that wont move between versions
[12:18] <dalela> okay
[12:18] <tarzeau> bazhang: why do you tell ME?
[12:18] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade
[12:18] <dalela> but I heared "never change a running system"
[12:18] <Cryophile> andre_pl: What camera/model no. is it?
[12:18] <dalela> so normaly it's okay if I just do a update&upgrade, right?
[12:18] <tarzeau> dalela: after some time the support for security updates will end and you will have to upgrade
[12:18] <dalela> ah okay
[12:19] <bazhang> dalela, dist-upgrade does not change versions
[12:19] <tarzeau> dalela: "never change a running system" means don't fiddle around on a productive system
[12:19] <tarzeau> dalela: that's what i meant "when you are sure" as in, you have tested an upgrade on non-critical test machine
[12:19] <dalela> tarzeau: I just want to keep the productive system running
[12:19] <tarzeau> dalela: and the results are what you expected
[12:19] <dalela> and secure
[12:19] <andre_pl> Cryophile: its the PS3's Eye camera, dmesg shows it picking up a USB Audio device, but after that I can't find it in sound preferences or anything
[12:19] <tarzeau> dalela: where do you work?
[12:20] <tarzeau> dalela: and what does the server do?
[12:20] <dalela> in a small company
[12:20] <dalela> there is a small web software running on the server
[12:20] <tarzeau> dalela: so far, i don't know anyone running ubuntu on "servers"... but it's interesting that i meet one here...
[12:20] <dalela> huh?
[12:20] <tarzeau> funny! not with lighttpd but apache i guess?
[12:20] <dalela> wait
[12:21] <dalela> you dont know running ubuntu on a server?
[12:21] <tarzeau> because ubuntu badly broke lighttpd - personally i wouldn't use ubuntu on a server, but as a workstation it's great
[12:21] <dalela> it was preinstalled by the hoster
[12:21] <dalela> no its not lightttpd
[12:21] <tarzeau> dalela: of course i do, but i wouldn't do this
[12:21] <dalela> nginx witch fcgi ;)
[12:21] <dalela> Why?
[12:21] <tarzeau> dalela: nice, just make sure you have a backup, should any package upgrade break any software
[12:22] <tarzeau> dalela: because they broke lighttpd :) which sucked
[12:22] <dalela> okay
[12:22] <elbatico1> hy evryone, I have an issue with my driver ati: i running ubuntu 10.4 when i try to test if 3D accelleration is enabled the command glxinfo answer me " display 0.0 segmentation fault", can anyone lights me up??
[12:22] <Cryophile> andre_pl: Can you get the video feed running or is it just the audio?
[12:22] <dalela> but you could have compiled it for yourself
[12:22] <dalela> and dont rely on the ubuntu package
[12:22] <tarzeau> dalela: sure, but that's now how ubuntu or debian work
[12:22] <tarzeau> dalela: this is not freebsd
[12:22] <andre_pl> Cryophile: the camera part works great.
[12:22] <dalela> Yes
[12:22] <[Screamo]> does xfce really use less resources as gnome?
[12:22] <tarzeau> dalela: however i build/maintain my own compiled versions of packages
[12:22] <tarzeau> dalela: but that's extra work...
[12:22] <dalela> but I would not change to a different OS because of a broken package..
[12:23] <tarzeau> dalela: i wouldn't use ubuntu on a server
[12:23] <tarzeau> dalela: we've got ubuntu support
[12:23] <dalela> ok
[12:23] <dalela> I will think of it the next time
[12:23] <tarzeau> dalela: the paid one (pardon canonical support), and it's not fulfilling our needs
[12:23] <tarzeau> oh you're free to do what you want
[12:24] <atude> if I leave my netbooks charger in, will it kill the battery?
[12:24] <dalela> of course
[12:24] <dalela> we'll see if it will do a good/bad job ;)
[12:24] <Cryophile> andre_pl: Have you tryed playing with settings in alsa-mixer?
[12:24] <tarzeau> dalela: i'm curious about the results...
[12:24] <andre_pl> Cryophile: no not yet, good call.
[12:24] <atude> dalela: was that at me
[12:25] <sacarlson> i'm getting this error from portablelinux install on a usb flash drive http://paste.ubuntu.com/480910/  error in bootloader section i get error: if you really want blocklists, use --force.
[12:25] <dalela> atude, no ;)
[12:25] <dalela> tarzeau: In my opinion ubuntu server is relatily stable
[12:26] <andre_pl> Cryophile: it crashes as soon as I select "the "USB Camera" device.
[12:26] <dalela> the packages which does not work I compile for myself
[12:26] <andre_pl> looks like maybe the mic on this camera just doesn't work?
[12:26] <tarzeau> dalela: how many and which are those?
[12:27] <dalela> There is not much software on the server
[12:27] <tarzeau> dalela: and what exactly is not working?
[12:27] <dalela> the only thing I had to compile for myself was nginx
[12:27] <dalela> as I remember
[12:27] <dalela> the rest worked as it should
[12:27] <dalela> *the other packages worked as they should
[12:28] <replman> Hi! I installed ubuntu 10.04 on my p4 3.0GHz. I also installed powernowd for speedstepping, but if i do aa ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq, this folder doesn't contain any files
[12:28] <domfliss> do you ever need to defrag linux?
[12:28] <Cryophile> andre_pl: Was the camera plugged in before or after boot up?
[12:28] <bazhang> domfliss, no
[12:28] <domfliss> bazhang, thanks.  Like mac?
[12:28] <andre_pl> Cryophile: after
[12:28] <tarzeau> domfliss: linux not, but maybe a filesystem, usually not for ext*
[12:29] <philinux> replman: add the cpu freq scaling app to a panle
[12:29] <Cryophile> andre_pl: Try booting with the camera plugged in, im seeing reports of success if the camera is plugged in before boot, but not after.
[12:29] <replman> philinux: i don't have a gui on this machine...
[12:29] <domfliss> tarzeau, linux is ext 4
[12:29] <andre_pl> Cryophile: Strange, thanks, I'll try it.
[12:29] <philinux> replman: ok cant help then
[12:29] <kalib> How can I check my processor temperature on ubuntu?
[12:29] <tarzeau> domfliss: linux can also use ext3, ext2 and xfs, among others
[12:30] <kalib> is there a GUI application?
[12:30] <bazhang> !sensors | kalib
[12:30] <tarzeau> domfliss: and no, you don't need or should defragment a linux ext* filesystem
[12:30] <bazhang> kalib, you could put it in conky
[12:30] <domfliss> tarzeau, no I meant my linux extension is ex4
[12:30] <domfliss> lol
[12:30] <tarzeau> domfliss: that's fine, and no you don't need to defrag it
[12:31] <domfliss> tarzeau, how are you at helping me to remove my xp partion?  is a case of removing the entry from grub and then removing the partion in gparted?
[12:32] <tarzeau> domfliss: that's easy, but it's not paid and i have to move on doing things. sorry
[12:32] <domfliss> tarzeau, thanks.  Too much holiday here.  Teacher with 4 weeks, lol
[12:32] <tarzeau> domfliss: hint: try qtparted
[12:33] <tarzeau> domfliss: i've had 9 weeks, and still got another 3 :)
[12:33] <domfliss> tarzeau, how much do I owe you?
[12:33] <del_diablo> Nautilus seems unable to search for things. Example: I go to folder X, and then press ctrl+f before writing in "*.jpg". Why is it not showing up stuff that exists from the subfolders?
[12:33] <tarzeau> domfliss: depends where you live. a beer or a room to stay overnight :)
[12:33] <domfliss> tarzeau, sunny uk here, lol
[12:33] <tarzeau> there's no bridge for my car between europe and uk :)
[12:34] <Renski> theres a tunnel
[12:34] <tarzeau> Renski: for cars without train?
[12:34] <domfliss> tarzeau, where are you?
[12:34] <tarzeau> Renski: costs to drive through?
[12:34] <tarzeau> domfliss: switzerland, been to sweden/norway/denmark this summer
[12:34] <Renski> tarzeau: no idea how it works, never been through it
[12:34] <tarzeau> Renski: it's only for trains, and i don't think they load cars
[12:35] <tarzeau> but there's ferries
[12:35] <domfliss> tarzeau,  ahhh the land of watches, paintings and all things safe, hehe
[12:35] <tarzeau> domfliss: don't forget the cheese and chocolate
[12:35] <Renski> tarzeau: £44 a car, return
[12:35] <domfliss> tarzeau, and Where Eagles Dare
[12:36] <domfliss> tarzeau, why linux over xp?
[12:37] <tarzeau> domfliss: oh why do you ask? if you ask me all of them sucks and i want NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP back
[12:37] <domfliss> tarzeau, you tried osx?
[12:37] <tarzeau> domfliss: because the windows file selector sucks, however the one in gnome sucks even more
[12:37] <tarzeau> domfliss: sure, had it many years. sucks compared to NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP
[12:38] <tarzeau> domfliss: http://livecd.gnustep.org/ after the gnustep transition in debian, i'll make a new release
[12:38] <domfliss> tarzeau, the file manager is bad at copying and pasting
[12:38] <tarzeau> installing gimp plugins and compiling software on windows just plain sucks!
[12:38] <tarzeau> domfliss: it's selector is a disaster too!
[12:39] <domfliss> tarzeau, you use gimp too?
[12:39] <tarzeau> domfliss: and inkscape and scribus, sure
[12:39] <domfliss> tarzeau, what you do?
[12:39] <tarzeau> you need a web/graphics designer and photographer?
[12:39] <tarzeau> and IT, did security many years, consultancy
[12:40] <tarzeau> what about yourself?
[12:40] <domfliss> tarzeau, what you do? I used to be a g/designer, ll
[12:40] <domfliss> tarzeau, teach English
[12:40] <tarzeau> i do system administration, software development, and graphics design/photography for the web and print media
[12:41] <domfliss> oops
[12:41] <domfliss> tarzeau, you post on flickr?
[12:41] <tarzeau> domfliss: yes but not much
[12:42] <domfliss> tarzeau, I do a bit, but not anything special
[12:42] <domfliss> tarzeau, I love gimp
[12:43] <tarzeau> anything i can look at?
[12:43] <domfliss> waiting for the new one with docked windows
[12:43] <tarzeau> 2.8?
[12:43] <domfliss> tarzeau,  yeah
[12:43] <tarzeau> there's betas, i've tried it. maybe more comfortable in gnome/windows - at least if you have large enough displays
[12:44] <itsux2bu> anyway to limit grep to text files only?
[12:44] <tarzeau> but then, if you got wmaker, having it as it is, is just the right way
[12:44] <tarzeau> itsux2bu: strings * |grep ?
[12:44] <domfliss> tarzeau,  I have to wait for mac, lol
[12:44] <iromli> !bot
[12:46] <JonathanEllis> A few weeks ago a kernel upgrade failed. Now another software upgrade failed. The upgrade app recommended I do a partial upgrade. Now the Distribution Upgrade window is stuck on "Installing the upgrades" and has been for about 20 minutes. There is a progress indicator swiping left and right but the terminal just shows "ERROR:root:SystemError from cache.commit(): E:Couldn't configure pre-depend openoffice.org-common for openoffice.org-filter-binfilter, p
[12:46] <domfliss> tarzeau, http://www.flickr.com/photos/41736044@N07/
[12:46] <itsux2bu> grep -w -s -i -r -n '^setterm' * &      <<-- anyway to make that grep command only search text files?
[12:46] <[Screamo]> How would i run "/opt/teamviewer/teamviewer/5/bin/teamviewer" over SSH
[12:47] <[Screamo]> it doesnt like running in a terminal
[12:47] <domfliss> tarzeau, some of my pictures
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  ssh -X remotebox  and it should run and appear on the Local X display
[12:48] <[mu]keiserr> is there anything that should be done but isn't mentionned in here ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto ?? getting this on my /var/log/messages on the server svc: failed to register lockdv1 RPC service (errno 97) and on the client side i am getting 'reason given by server no such file or directory', any cklue ???
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> of course that may not send the audio and mic to the right machine.
[12:48] <tarzeau> domfliss: added you, nice messerschmitt photos :)
[12:48] <[Screamo]> ohai Dr_Willis sup
[12:48] <domfliss> I love those planes
[12:49] <domfliss> tarzeau, I use X-plane which is quite nice to simulate flying
[12:50] <richardcavell> The Ubuntu download page says that the 64-bit version is 'not recommended' for daily desktop use.  Is there a good reason for this?  I'm planning to run it in VirtualBox on a Mac under OS X.
[12:51] <[Screamo]> Dr_Willis, it isnt working :(
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  In a virt machine you may as well use 32bit.
[12:51] <richardcavell> Dr_Willis: Why do you say that?
[12:51] <mikebeecham> Abstract Question - on a new Ubuntu install, I see slight 'banding' on all gradient wallpapers.  Will this be the wallpapers, or a setting in Ubuntu?
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  you giving more then 4gb ram to the virtual machine?
[12:51] <richardcavell> My Mac will only recognize 3 Gigs.  I'm going to give only 1-2 Gigs
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> can the virtualmachine even do a 64bit cpu also..
[12:52] <richardcavell> Virtualbox will do 64 bits
[12:52] <richardcavell> As will my CPu
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  so no real gain by doing 64bit  ramwise. You Might gain a little preformance.
[12:52] <Brianum> Hi Guys, i've got a problem with a more than ten year old machine. its optical drive spins up, but get errors fast. i need to boot an live ubuntu on this machine. is there any way to boot a live system from an existing ntfs hard disk with any boot parameter?
[12:52] <domfliss> tarzeau, so if I delete the menu entry in grub and then delete the partition xp and drag the slider to allocate it to linux, will that be enough?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> if it was a 'real' machine. I would say go 64bit if you can.. in a virtual machine.. harder to tell.
[12:52] <richardcavell> alright
[12:53] <richardcavell> well I'm downloading 32 bits
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> Brianum:  thers that grub4dos. or grub2  for dos i think..  you could use.
[12:53] <richardcavell> I don't suppose I'll suffer in any way
[12:53] <Brianum> Virtual box under Mac OSX runs perfectly with an 64-bit
[12:53] <Brianum> you just have to choose 64 bit while setting up the machine.
[12:53] <domfliss> Dr_Willis, vbox is good for 64bit
[12:53] <alabd> Good day all ,  is there jre 128bit for ubuntu ?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> domfliss:  but is it any faster  then 32bit in that case. is the question..
[12:53] <Oer> mikebeecham, is that 'banding'a transparancy or border effect ?
[12:53] <abhijit> hello
[12:53] <domfliss> Dr_Willis, allocate two cpu's in the menu, yes it is
[12:54] <richardcavell> Well considering it's not really running on the metal, I don't think drivers are an issue
[12:54] <abhijit> any powerful quntaplus alternative for gnome?
[12:54] <domfliss> Dr_Willis, it is using both cores
[12:54] <richardcavell> alabd: There is no 128 bit ubuntu
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> 32bit could use 2 cores also I imagine.. I dont have a mac. so no idea on their hardware.
[12:54] <mikebeecham> Oer, I see it most on wallpapers with colour gradients...it's just not smooth.  I have checked my graphic driver settings and I'm using 24bit
[12:54] <alabd> java 128bit not ubuntu richardcavell
[12:54] <ilovefairuz> Brianum: are you trying to install ubuntu or just use a live system? you could do the same steps that are used to create a bootable live usb pendrive
[12:54] <richardcavell> alabd: okay my bad sorry didn't notice
[12:54]  * Dr_Willis wonders what Java 128bit even is..
[12:54] <alabd> nop
[12:55] <abhijit> no alternative?
[12:55] <domfliss> Dr_Willis, if you have 64 bit chips, then install the 64bit version
[12:55] <richardcavell> It's just like Java 32 bits, only every instruction is padded to 128 bits with NOP instructions
[12:55] <Brianum> the machine does not boot from usb devices, i just need a one time live-system
[12:55] <domfliss> Dr_Willis, is it a mac?
[12:55] <abhijit> :(
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> domfliss:  someone mention3ed  they were using vbox in a mac. and trying to decide 32 of 64bit for the vmachine.. with only 1-2 gb of ram..
[12:56] <ilovefairuz> Brianum: the same steps but applies to the hard disk partition, not a usb pendrive
[12:56] <hariom> has anybody succeeded installing pylucene?
[12:56] <domfliss> on a mac I would use 64 bit if the speed is over 2ghz.  Most chips over that are 64 bit
[12:56] <Oer> abhijit, sure, it is just a html editor. quantaplus could run under gnome ?
[12:56] <richardcavell> Dr_Willis: My Mac laptop has a hardware limitation.  It will only recognize 3 Gigs of RAM
[12:57] <ilovefairuz> !who | Brianum
[12:57] <domfliss> Dr_Willis, allocate 1.5 gigs and run the 64 bit and run a few benchmarks
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> domfliss:  go for it. :) Its not my mac.. irun linux natively :) and other os;s in vbox on ubuntu. not the other way around.
[12:58] <abhijit> Oer, yes i am using it on my ubuntu. but i was wondering if any gnome softwrae alternate for qunta
[12:58] <ilovefairuz> !usb > Brianum
[12:59] <phlak_user> !hi
[12:59] <domfliss> Dr_Willis, ,oh I thought it was for you, lol.  On my mac it's osx, lol
[13:00] <alabd> Dr_Willis, you know java is prohibited for us to be downloaded from sun.com
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> alabd:  Never noticed.. never cared. :)
[13:00] <mikebeecham> Can anyone help?  I seem to have colour banding issues on 10.04..is this a known issue, or can I change something?
[13:01] <alabd> Dr_Willis, someone said it cause of encryption issue and get 128 bit
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> alabd:  Cant say that ive ever heard it mentioned befor.. and cant say taht ive ever heard of 128bit java befor either..
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> Sun has done a great job at sending java to its doom it seems..
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> Oh wait.. sun isent sun any more.. :)
[13:03] <ilovefairuz> mikebeecham: try changing resolution from system > preferences > monitor ?
[13:03] <ThinkTank> Dr_Willis: Bad boy Oracle
[13:04] <ilovefairuz> alabd: are you referring to 128-bit encryption ?
[13:04] <itsux2bu> i have a background task runnning in a guest OS 32-bit ubuntu server. i want to stop the vm and add more cpu cores to it.  when i halt the guest os will my background have to be restarted from the begining?
[13:04] <itsux2bu> i'm using vbox
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> ilovefairuz:  Thats what i was wondering also.. but i care so little about java thse days.. I dident want to ask >:)
[13:05] <ThinkTank> itsux2bu: I guess you need a reboot to add more cpus/ram
[13:05] <alabd> ilovefairuz, yes
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> itsux2bu:  that would be a neat trick adding cpus  on the 'fly'
[13:05] <ThinkTank> indeed
[13:05] <ilovefairuz> alabd: are you talking about US export limitations for crypto software?
[13:05] <itsux2bu> i was think i could maybe "pause" a vm.. add cores.. restart it after
[13:06] <alabd> ilovefairuz, yes
[13:06] <itsux2bu> *thinking
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> alabd:  youve not been very clear on that then. :)
[13:06] <ThinkTank> itsux2bu, well you cant in vbox,xenserver or esxi
[13:06] <abhijit> any powerful quntaplus alternative for gnome?
[13:07] <alabd> Dr_Willis,  what do you mena
[13:07] <alabd> mean
[13:07] <ilovefairuz> alabd: and you've tried to install java on ubuntu but couldn't?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> alabd:  you ahve been talking about '128bit java' not '128bit encryption IN java' -   Then you say you cant download java.. but.. you can...
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> alabd:  so Is there an actual ubuntu issue going on here?
[13:08] <alabd> ilovefairuz, can , but don;t want use prohibited thing
[13:09] <alabd> Dr_Willis,  yes where to get 128 encryption jre for ubuntu ?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> alabd:  the default java in ubuntu is Not sun's java either.. its teh GPL 'icedtea' java
[13:09] <alabd> Dr_Willis, you mean openjdk ?
[13:09] <ThinkTank> alabd: are you talking about the java crypto extension ?
[13:10] <ilovefairuz> alabd: go read the java EULA
[13:10] <alabd> ilovefairuz, why ? read something before , is there any point ?
[13:11] <ilovefairuz> alabd: to understand what are you talking about because you clearly doesn't
[13:11] <ikonia> alabd: read it again - you don't understand it. This channel is for ubuntu support only. Please keep to it, this will be your only warning
[13:11] <spitzi> Jordan_U: well, I managed to regain my old Ubuntu 9.10 ... by installing another 9.10 adn asking it to configure grub by itself :-) But now the 9.10 I really want appears at the bottom of the grub2 menu. Is there some GUI for changing this ? I tried following the instructions in http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html to no avail.
[13:12] <alabd> ikonia, yes and told , where to get 128 encryption jre for ubuntu ? is it unrelated to ubuntu ?
[13:13] <ikonia> alabd: the package is not ecrypted, you specifict the encyption when you build an application.
[13:13] <ikonia> alabd: discussin in ##java
[13:13] <ThinkTank> im pretty sure its in openjdk
[13:13] <hariom> Has anybody tried pylucene on Ubuntu?
[13:13] <ThinkTank> sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[13:13] <itsux2bu> so in  ubuntu there's no way to pause a background task before doing a reboot and then when ubuntu comes back up, having the background task continue where it left off?
[13:14] <alabd> ThinkTank,  openjdk also is prohibited for us cause of USA export law
[13:14] <ikonia> alabd: then don't install it
[13:14] <domfliss> ThinkTank, you're back
[13:14] <ikonia> alabd: the fact that you are not in the USA makes it a null point
[13:14] <ThinkTank> aye
[13:14] <ikonia> itsux2bu: no, the task will be killed when you reboot
[13:15] <domfliss> ThinkTank, I finally copied over me files
[13:15] <ThinkTank> cool
[13:15] <spitzi> Can anyone suggest a quick and simple way to edit grub2 menu entries ?
[13:15] <abhijit> !grub2 | spitzi
[13:15] <alabd> ikonia,  so what should people (in countries that is prohibited by US export law) do ? which Java should they use in Ubuntu ? is not ubuntu for all world ?
[13:16] <ThinkTank> domfliss: then you can do the following: "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true" to /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub"
[13:16] <ikonia> alabd: ubuntu does not control the law, you install a package that meets your local countries law
[13:16] <domfliss> I was going to delete the grub entry windows and then delete the windows partition in gparted, is that right?
[13:16] <abhijit> !java | alabd
[13:16] <ThinkTank> domfliss: yes
[13:16] <domfliss> ThinkTank, is that the same as what you put there?
[13:17] <alabd> ikonia,  so free softwares also under force of US law like openjdk ..
[13:17] <ThinkTank> domfliss: just do a sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[13:17] <ikonia> alabd: I'll saw it one more time, Ubuntu does not make the law, it's up to the users to install packages that meet your countries laws
[13:17] <ThinkTank> domfliss: and then paste the following somewhere in the file: GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> alabd:  and what country are you in?
[13:18] <alabd> iran
[13:18] <c3l> I have a strange issue, no application can access alsa - I have no sound. BUT I do have sound in console. how do I fix this? recent system changes: removed kdm from autostart (update-rc.d)
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> alabd:  so.. you are not under us jursidiction.. so us export law dosent apply..   Unless theres some point we are missing here.
[13:18] <ilovefairuz> alabd: install and use openjdk
[13:19] <domfliss> ThinkTank, paste it in my grub cfg?
[13:19] <ThinkTank> alabd: it downloads from ubuntu servers, and i dont think they are gonna check your ip
[13:19] <ThinkTank> domfliss: not grub.cfg
[13:19] <ThinkTank> the other
[13:19] <ThinkTank> its a file called /etc/defaukt/grub
[13:19] <ThinkTank> default
[13:20] <gnomefreak> im betting the ubuntu iran channel would be of more help
[13:20] <spitzi> abhijit - I tried following this manual but I don't understand how I can change the internal order between different linux distros I have installed.
[13:21] <abhijit> !ir | alabd
[13:22] <domfliss> ThinkTank, GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true ? sorry getting confused
[13:23] <prodigel> hi all. Can I deactivate my laptop keyboard? I've spilled milk on it and now I use an external one, but from time to time the laptop keyboard send a bunch of keypresses that block my external one.
[13:23] <ThinkTank> first type this into the terminal: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[13:24] <alabd> ikonia,  Dr_Willis  ilovefairuz  ThinkTank  i(humble) know from here it is maybe offtopic but see this part http://pastebin.com/SqEracs3 in this link http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/programs/ascii/iran.txt so anyone anywhere can not export those things also ubuntu server yes ?
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> prodigel:  Hmm.. cant say that ive ever seen that done.   Its possible theres 2 or more /dev/input devices. one for each keyboard. you cold perhaps configure X to use One of them
[13:24] <ilovefairuz> prodigel: probably not unless there's an option in BIOS to do it but I doubt it
[13:25] <ikonia> alabd: it is offtopic, please stop discussing it
[13:25] <ThinkTank> prodigel: propably easier to just disconnect your keyboard from your laptop
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> alabd:  if you are not in the US you are not exporting.. You are 'importing'
[13:25] <prodigel> ThinkTank, I've tried that but I don't have the proper screwdriver to pop all screws
[13:26] <ThinkTank> prodigel: are you sure you need screws... most laptops just have clips above the keyboard
[13:26] <ThinkTank> prodigel: what laptop do you have?
[13:26] <prodigel> ThinkTank, asus x51rl
[13:27] <c3l> my sound works in console but not in X, what might the problem be?
[13:27] <prodigel> ThinkTank, it looks compact in the front, that's why I've tried opening it from the back
[13:27] <ThinkTank> if you look at the top edge of your keyboard
[13:27] <ThinkTank> there is a slight space between it and the chassis
[13:27] <ilovefairuz> alabd: this is merely of concern to US businesses, it shouldn't concern you in anyway, if sun/oracle knows that they will be in trouble for offering java to sanctioned countries, they would have blocked the download for these countries, but they don't block it, so it's fine, don't concern yourself with it
[13:28] <ikonia> guys - can we drop the java license chat now please
[13:28] <domfliss> ThinkTank, ok did that
[13:28] <abhijit> hey
[13:28] <[Screamo]> Im trying to set a keyboard shortcut for "sudo wvdial" and it isnt working.. any ideas?
[13:28] <prodigel> ThinkTank, were those for me?
[13:28] <JonathanEllis> A few weeks ago a kernel upgrade failed. Now another software upgrade failed. The upgrade app recommended I do a partial upgrade. Now the Distribution Upgrade window is stuck on "Installing the upgrades" and has been for about 20 minutes. There is a progress indicator swiping left and right but the terminal just shows "ERROR:root:SystemError from cache.commit(): E:Couldn't configure pre-depend openoffice.org-common for openoffice.org-filter-binfilter, p
[13:28] <ThinkTank> domfliss: then you go all the way down. with the down arrow
[13:28] <ThinkTank> ThinkTank: yeah
[13:28] <ThinkTank> lol
[13:28] <ThinkTank> prodigel: yes
[13:28] <abhijit> i used down them all add on firefox so i want its eaiuvalent software? anyone knows? i dnot want addons to firefox hep
[13:28] <ThinkTank> talking to myself here
[13:29] <abhijit> !enter | ThinkTank
[13:29] <prodigel> how do I pop those?
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  perhaps use the command line tools. and remove  Openoffice. update/upgrade. then reinstall openoffice
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> prodigel:  ive seen some sites that have 'how to disable a laptop..' tutorials/videos. :)
[13:29] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: Trouble is I cant close the Distribution Upgrade window
[13:29] <roccity_> morning all
[13:29] <ThinkTank> abhijit: =)
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> prodigel:  i mean dissasemble.
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  'xkill' perhaps.
[13:30] <razz1> I am after an alarm function that can wake the system from suspend and launch a music application. I tried banshee alarm plugin but it cannot wake the system from suspend. any other options?
[13:30] <ThinkTank> Dr_Willis: normally you dont need to disassemble the laptop to take out the keyboard
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> ThinkTank:  Dissasembliong is easy. reassmebling is harder. :)
[13:30] <prodigel> ThinkTank, yes! it worked :)
[13:30] <ThinkTank> prodigel: i googled it for you and found a article that there should be 4 clips on the top side
[13:30] <ThinkTank> prodigel: awsome!
[13:31] <erUSUL> razz1: only aa hardware event can wake up a system from suspend afaik
[13:31] <domfliss> ThinkTank, ok did that
[13:31] <prodigel> ThinkTank, they were small and I didn't noticed them. Thanks again!
[13:31] <ThinkTank> domfliss: and then you write GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true there
[13:31] <alabd> ilovefairuz, ofcourse download is blocked for us from java.com anyway ikonia  says we should not continue discussion
[13:31] <ThinkTank> Dr_Willis: Tell me about it
[13:32] <razz1> erUSUL: winamp had this functionality, trying to find something similar for ubuntu
[13:32] <domfliss> ThinkTank, do I need the hash at the front?
[13:32] <ThinkTank> no
[13:32] <domfliss> ThinkTank, ok done that, what does that do?
[13:32] <ThinkTank> domfliss: hash means that that line will be ignored
[13:33] <ThinkTank> domfliss: now you click ctrl + x
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> Winamp can wake a system from suspend? i wonder how anything can do that...
[13:33] <abhijit> i used down them all add on firefox so i want its eaiuvalent software? anyone knows? i dnot want addons to firefox hep
[13:33] <ThinkTank> domfliss: and Y to save
[13:33] <abhijit> what you people do use to download software?
[13:33] <domfliss> ThinkTank, ok, done that, what did line do?
[13:33] <ThinkTank> domfliss: nothing yet
[13:33] <antagomir> ok. it seems that HP Elitebook 2540p and Dell latitude E4310 are good choices for efficient linux-compatible light-weight laptops that are ok also for editing HD videos. Any comments before I buy one of these?
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  I use the ubuntu 'package manager' to install uybuntu software normally
[13:34] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, no not ubuntu software
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  then be more clear.. :)
[13:34] <ThinkTank> domfliss: when you now write sudo update-grub in the terminal its gonna forget all about windows and only have ubuntu in the boot menu
[13:34] <domfliss> ThinkTank, great.  what do I do with the windows partition?
[13:34] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, e.g. sourforge. now i am in firefox then  i used add on called down them all. so i dont want to use any addon on firefox now. so i want a software for that?
[13:34] <razz1> Dr_Willis: it has an alarm plugin, I think it created a task scheduler entry. I really miss it.
[13:34] <ThinkTank> domfliss: now you need some gparted action
[13:35] <domfliss> ThinkTank, ok got that open
[13:35] <ThinkTank> do you see your windows partition? it should say ntfs
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> razz1:  still. Ive never seen a way to schedule a 'wakup from suspend'  feature in any os..  Seen NIC's have a wakeup feature..
[13:36] <domfliss> ThinkTank, yes
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  why not use  a firefox addon? theres 'download managers' for linux  but ive not used any in years.. they are sort of pointless
[13:36] <ThinkTank> domfliss: right click it and delete
[13:36] <domfliss> ThinkTank, says mount on media
[13:37] <ThinkTank> domfliss: is it mounted?
[13:37] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, becuase addons are slowing down my firefox. so i want a solution other thatn add on. what do you use?
[13:37] <ThinkTank> domfliss: then you need to right click and select unmount first, and then click delete afterwards
[13:37] <alabd> Thanks a lot anyway
[13:37] <Ober7> alabd if i understand you correctly, encryption software is prohibited in Iran, thats alright, in many countries it is, u will have to go around ur country internet filtering system  to get it but remember that you are breaking the law, you will certainly find more info on how to get it in ##java or #ubuntu-ir
[13:37] <domfliss> ThinkTank, mountpoint /media/985......
[13:37] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: which packages should I remove?
[13:37] <kind_bud> I have question, is kmp installed in ubuntu's depositories, I had some kernal promblems with running virtual box with ubuntu
[13:38] <ThinkTank> domfliss: yeah, rightclick that and click unmount
[13:38] <eynie> hello
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  anything with OpenOffice in the names would be my guess.
[13:38] <alabd> Ober7, mayeb i(humble) don't want use those things because we know that law is made by Representatives of US people and that law is maybe want of us people and we should not use others Property without their satisfaction
[13:38] <domfliss> ThinkTank, unmounted
[13:38] <ThinkTank> domfliss: now try and click delete
[13:38] <eynie> does anybody successfully run glx on intel GMA 3100 afterupgrade to 10.04?
[13:38] <bazhang> alabd, please stop its offtopic
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  i dont use any of them.  I let the browser download stuff. and ive rareluy had ff addons slow stuff down. and i must have 50 of them installed.
[13:39] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, ohhhh
[13:39] <domfliss> ThinkTank, ok it's gone, unallocated
[13:39] <ThinkTank> ok
[13:39] <TiK> gm
[13:39] <Ober7> ok i tried to help but your are driffting offtopic again
[13:39] <ThinkTank> now you rightclick your main partition the one with mountpoint "/"
[13:39] <alabd> ok thanks God bless you bye
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> I need to track down a easy way to transfer all 'plugins/extensions/settings ' from one  ff setup to my other machines also. :)
[13:39] <ThinkTank> domfliss: and then you click resize
[13:39] <razz1> Dr_Willis: even media centre had that functionality, my system used to wakeup from suspend, record and go to sleep again. I am pretty sure mythtv has that function, though I haven't used it. I will try the forums
[13:40] <domfliss> ThinkTank, ext4?
[13:40] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, ;)
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> razz1:  my last experience with 'suspend' was lots of programs crashing. :)
[13:40] <ThinkTank> domfliss: yeah
[13:41] <domfliss> ThinkTank, resizing
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Google voice/chat/ talk video - now has linux support. :0 wee.
[13:41] <ThinkTank> domfliss: when this is done goto edit and click apply all operations
[13:41] <ThinkTank> domfliss: not sure if its necessary but give it a shot. When this is done you reboot and all should be fine
[13:42] <TiK> Dr_Willis: url?
[13:42] <domfliss> ThinkTank, thanks, but the allocated space won't move
[13:42] <ThinkTank> domfliss: how much unallocated space do you have?
[13:42] <domfliss> 67 gigs
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  it was on a news feed from OMG! Ubuntu site..  google info -> http://www.google.com/chat/video
[13:42] <razz1> Dr_Willis: try the FEBE addon that way it's easy to transfer all your addons. By the way suspend works fine on my system but hibernation has issues. I guess its because I created swap after installing the system. its in my home folder. Need to fix it
[13:42] <Humle91> hey anyone here that has experience with mkv merge ? i can get the program to starte, but it freeses after 2 seconds
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/google-talk-video-voice-chat-finally.html
[13:43] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, are you referring to an actual google-voice client (as the video feature has been supported with Empathy for a while now)
[13:43] <ThinkTank> domfliss: so when your in the resizing menu you cant move the bar?
[13:44] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, thanks for the link - bad timing on my end ;)
[13:44] <domfliss> ThinkTank, ooh, the resize menu, oops, let me see
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  no idea. :0 i rarely use the feature.   I do recall someone in here asking about it yesterday.  :)
[13:45] <ThinkTank> domfliss: you might need to use the livecd when resizing.
[13:45] <TiK> Dr_Willis: http://www.google.com/chat/video/ :O
[13:45] <razz1> what is the best way to have a voice chat in LAN. anything better and simpler than mumble?
[13:45] <domfliss> ThinkTank, not highlighted
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  in a DEB format even. :)
[13:46] <ThinkTank> domfliss: yeah you need to do it from the livecd. Can't resize a online partition
[13:46] <domfliss> damn.  On a netbook.  How do I mount it back again, lol
[13:46] <ThinkTank> domfliss: mount what?
[13:47] <domfliss> I unmounted the ntfs drive
[13:47] <ThinkTank> domfliss: you should make a usb livecd
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> domfliss:  you want it unmounted if you are going to resize it
[13:47] <ThinkTank> domfliss: i always have several of those laying around
[13:48] <slow-motion> hi
[13:48] <domfliss> can I go back to mounting it again
[13:48] <ThinkTank> why would you want that ?`
[13:48] <domfliss> ThinkTank, I don't have any usb sticks
[13:48] <ThinkTank> oh
[13:49] <ThinkTank> domfliss: and you installed ubuntu from the windows installer?
[13:49] <TiK> Dr_Willis: can I test on you?
[13:49] <TiK> Dr_Willis: I got te deb
[13:49] <WillWork4Foo> I am having a bit of a brainfail - I know there's a volume control GUI that allows me to control each side of a stereo mic input, called <something>mixer... can anyone help an absent-minded guy out?
[13:50] <domfliss> ThinkTank, I had a friends usb.  Let me check something, maybe I can find one.  Is that ok?
[13:50] <abhijit> !alsa | WillWork4Foo
[13:50] <ThinkTank> domfliss: sure
[13:50] <ThinkTank> Btw. anyone here that has tried online resizing of ext4 ?
[13:51] <hariom> Anybody with pylucene experience on ubuntu?
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  i got no mic or webcam on this box :)   I just set the stuff up on the other pc's for the wife to talk to the 4 yr old grandson. he thinks its 'cool'
[13:52] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: I removed all packages related to openoffice in synaptic (easiest way to find them all). Synaptic reports this error: "E: linux-image-2.6.24-28-generic: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1". I think this may be where all the problems began (the kernel upgrade that didnt work).
[13:52] <c3l> !ask | hariom
[13:52] <TiK> Dr_Willis: o damn
[13:52] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, just a ot question: how many boxes you have??? ;)
[13:53] <acovrig> dansguardian isnt working, I followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207008 exactly; I think tinyproxy is refusing connections or firehol is overactive
[13:53] <acovrig> how can I tell?
[13:53] <TiK> abhijit: I have 4 one runs windows 7 1 runs ubunu 1 fedora and 1 linuxmint
[13:54] <mikebeecham> guys..which is the better way to go.  Use the 'recommended' Nvidia drivers, or go to nvidia and download newer drivers?
[13:54] <abhijit> TiK, ohhhh :-o
[13:54] <hariom> c3l: I asked the question an hour ago but there is not reply. I thought more people have added in last one hour so asked the question again. Question: Error while doing make on pylucene.
[13:54] <WillWork4Foo> thanks abhijit but that's not really what I'm looking for. I know how to fix the problem I have, I just can't remember the app name. (and it's not on those pages)
[13:54] <TiK> abhijit: ones my ubuntu 2 are mine and 1 is my panrets.. can you guess which ones which?
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  proberly 6+ Pc's in this house..
[13:55] <abhijit> WillWork4Foo, its alsamixer
[13:55] <acovrig> also someone mentioned using FireFox autodetect, how do I do that?
[13:55] <mike_kay> guess what
[13:55] <abhijit> TiK, no :D :P
[13:55] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, :D good.
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  perhaps force a reinstall of that package.
[13:55] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: i always keep to recommended drivers. Its tested with the distribution and you get updates from the update manager. Only reason for me to use newest nvidia drivers is when i have some problems with graphical glitches and stuff
[13:56] <mikebeecham> ThinkTank, I'm getting colour banding on gradient wallpapers...I'm trying to resolve
[13:56] <TiK> abhijit: the win7 is my ucles the LinuxMint s my parents and the fedora/ubuntu is mine :O
[13:56] <abhijit> TiK, :D
[13:56] <sammarks14> is anyone here that helped me with my problem yesterday?
[13:56] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: are you using the recommended atm ?
[13:57] <TiK> sammarks14: I wa here but don't remember your program
[13:57] <TiK> er problem
[13:57] <mikebeecham> I was...I've downgraded just now to 173 to see if there's a difference, which there isnt
[13:58] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: then i would give the newest nvidia drivers a shot
[13:58] <mikebeecham> ThinkTank, from the nvidia website?
[13:58] <sammarks14> Tik: okay, so my problem is that my ubuntu install randomly freezes, or the screen goes black and the computer restarts. When I used the installation disc to install Ubuntu, it went black and restarted during the installation. I ran a memory test overnight to see if that was the problem, and the memory test passed.
[13:58] <SingAlong> hi all
[13:58] <chkdsk> I installed ubuntu and then installed xfce+kubuntu-desktop with it. When I last used Kubuntu desktop it used an identical layout to my gnome layout (bar at the top, bar at the bottom, applications in the same place). I had to reinstall ubuntu, and now kubuntu is using the xfce layout. Is it possible to revert to the gnome layout?
[13:58] <TiK> mikebeecham: i think 195 s the latest linux version
[13:58] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham, let me do some checking for you first
[13:58] <mikebeecham> thanks guys
[13:58] <TiK> sammarks14: ahh you are the netbook guy
[13:59] <sammarks14> Tik: my only possible problems I think I have now are that it's the X-Server or my processor. The same problem happens in windows, but less frequently.
[13:59] <TiK> sammarks14: netbook on a desktop?
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> chkdsk:  you can configure KDE to be how you want.. its  not using 'settinghs' from gnome or xfce..
[13:59] <sammarks14> TiK: no, I'm using a netbook to chat with you all while I work on my desktop :P
[13:59] <SingAlong> I have a windows7 pc and an ubuntu netbook. my ubuntu doesnt connect to the net properly. it sort of breaks the connection often while net on my windows7 still works fine
[13:59] <j0hnboy> can anyone maybe shed some light on my dockbarx install problem: ss + a few misc details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1557042
[13:59] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: Should I do "sudo apt-get --reinstall linux-image-2.6.24-28-generic"?
[13:59] <mikebeecham> ThinkTank, nvidia are advising 256.44?
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  you can try. Ive rarely had to fight with package breakage of this kind.
[13:59] <TiK> sammarks14: oh ok someone installed the netbook edition ona desktop and was compaining of crashes
[13:59] <itsux2bu> is the -r and the * redundant?   grep -w -r '^setterm' *
[13:59] <TiK> sammarks14: yesterday
[14:00] <sammarks14> ah, i see
[14:00] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: have you tried the 195 package?
[14:00] <TiK> sammarks14: if it happens in windos as well I would question your hardware
[14:00] <mikebeecham> is that the 'recommended' drivers within Hardware Drivers?
[14:00] <sammarks14> TiK: I've got a PNY nVidia GeForce 9800 GT 1GB GDDR3 graphics card.
[14:01] <sammarks14> if that makes a difference
[14:01] <TiK> sammarks14: nah I wouldn't think a videocard crashes your system per say
[14:01] <TiK> would*
[14:01] <sammarks14> But it could contribute to the freezing.
[14:01] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: im not sure, check what the dialog says
[14:02] <TiK> sammarks14: what driver version are you using?
[14:02] <TiK> nice card btw
[14:02] <sammarks14> however, yesterday, when i was sitting in a terminal, it printed a bunch of error messages, and one of them said something along the lines of my processor freezing for 61 seconds.
[14:02] <sammarks14> thanks
[14:02] <sammarks14> im using the default, because i can never get it running long enough to update the driver
[14:02] <sammarks14> on windows, im using the latest driver.
[14:03] <TiK> sammarks14: download the driver on the computer you are on now and transfer it over?
[14:03] <Tricks> I have just updated my system and now apache doesn't want to start
[14:03] <sammarks14> TiK: however, I do have integrated graphics as well. Should i plug my monitor into my integrated graphics and see if it solves the problem?
[14:03] <sammarks14> TiK: I still doubt I'd have enough time to even install the driver
[14:04] <Tricks> when I start it states that it cannot open the port (80) and it's unable to open logs?
[14:04] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: i would propably try out the driver from the nvidia webpage. its up to version 250 something
[14:04] <TiK> sammarks14: worth a try
[14:04] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: just remember to pick the correct version x86/x64
[14:05] <TiK> Tricks: re you running it as root?
[14:05] <sammarks14> TiK: well, as of now, I can't even install Ubuntu because I put in a disc, and the installation crashes. I'll try switching the monitors first, then if it doesn't crash, I'll get the drivers.
[14:05] <TiK> sammarks14: good luck i'll be here
[14:05] <eynie> has anyone successfuly run glx on intel GMA x3100 after upgrade to 10.04?
[14:06] <TiK> I think imma recompile my kernel today
[14:06] <TiK> brb reboot :O
[14:07] <Tricks> TiK, yup command sudo service apache2 start; also tried sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[14:07] <mikebeecham> ThinkTank, i have downloaded one, but when I try to run the .run file it tells me that I'm not root...but it's not giving me the opportunity to enter my root password?
[14:07] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: type sudo infront of the command
[14:08] <mikebeecham> ThinkTank, it opens the terminal but just begins to try to install...I dont get to do anything with it
[14:09] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: ah, you have to start it from the terminal. Not double click
[14:09] <saml> hey, in a company network, i notice i can access people's computers with alias instead of ip.  they are all using windows. but can an ubuntu machine be identified with alias too?
[14:09] <mikebeecham> ThinkTank, what would the command be for that mate?
[14:09] <Tricks> TiK, found it mate, crashed apache2 start process
[14:09] <saml> by setting up the ubuntu machine. or should i talk to system admin?
[14:09] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: open the terminal and then locate the folder where the .run file is in
[14:09] <mikebeecham> I'm there...?
[14:10] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: then the command should be sudo ./file
[14:10] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: if it dont work you need to do a chmod +x file first
[14:11] <mikebeecham> ThinkTank, arghhhh now it wont install because I'm running an x server
[14:13] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: hehe CTRL + ALT + F1 and then stop the X server. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  . Then you install the file. after that you type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[14:13] <TiK> Tricks: ok
[14:14] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: if your irc client is running on that machine it might get closed if its not irssi in a screen
[14:14] <sammarks14> TiK: okay, I have the computer open, and I am going to remove the graphics card in order to get the Integrated graphics to kick in.
[14:14] <j0hnboy> can anyone maybe shed some light on my dockbarx install problem: ss + a few misc details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1557042
[14:15] <TiK> sammarks14: oh ok
[14:16] <TiK> j0hnboy: looking...
[14:17] <j0hnboy> thx
[14:17] <TiK> j0hnboy: just match the repo's on both boxes and run an sud apt-get update ?
[14:17] <TiK> that weird...
[14:18] <TiK> sudo :O
[14:18] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: how is it working out for you ?
[14:18] <benovic> how can i redirect all outgoing traffic on port 8080 to localhost?
[14:18] <mikebeecham> ummm... ctrl-_alt+f1 before writing down the commands....I'm back to write them down :D
[14:18] <j0hnboy> TiK: ya they are. but i have a newer package installed on work pc b/c of past repo i enabled at one time
[14:18] <mikebeecham> now about to go try it!
[14:18] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: hehe
[14:18] <mikebeecham> brb
[14:19] <ThinkTank> benovic: you need to setup a iptable rule
[14:19] <j0hnboy> TiK: & it doesn't "uninstall" when disabling the old repo :(
[14:19] <TiK> j0hnboy: hmm
[14:19] <meditator> hello.. i'm trying a bit of scripting  - how to reference a file which has spaces in the filepath ? could anyone help please? thanks!
[14:20] <j0hnboy> it's a bummer. it's almost as i'm SOL on this. which really sucks. wish i could force install an old package hoping there were no repercussions
[14:20] <aeon-ltd> meditator: put it in quotes "
[14:20] <TiK> j0hnboy: I am suspect of your sources.list still though
[14:21] <TiK> lemme try to install it
[14:21] <meditator> aeon-ltd,  thanks
[14:21] <TiK> and see what it says
[14:21] <zphinx> Is there any way to change the login manager in 10.04? Trying to get entrance running instead of gdm
[14:21] <sammarks14> TiK: is it okay that I'm running my computer with the case open?
[14:21] <TiK> sammarks14: yea for now :O
[14:21] <j0hnboy> TiK: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/480915/ ... work boxes sources.list
[14:22] <sammarks14> okay, starting computer
[14:22] <TiK> j0hnboy: comment out all PPA's for now
[14:22] <TiK> and run a sudo apt-get update
[14:22] <ThinkTank> benovic: it should be something like this: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 8080 -i eth0 -j DNAT --to 127.0.0.1:8080
[14:22] <sammarks14> running on integrated graphics
[14:22] <j0hnboy> TiK: really? like everything in that sources.list i pasted?
[14:23] <aeon-ltd> zphinx: is entrance another display manager?
[14:23] <TiK> meditator: /home/tik/File\ With Spaces/test.txt ect.
[14:23] <niko> .Ev
[14:23] <zphinx> aeon-ltd: yes.
[14:23] <sammarks14> hm, my integrated graphics support 1440x900
[14:23] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: welcome back
[14:23] <sammarks14> im impressed
[14:23] <aeon-ltd> zphinx: sudo dpkg reconfigure gdm, it should let you choose
[14:23] <TiK> j0hnboy: id like to ee the sources.list on the system you are installing from
[14:23] <TiK> you said thy are identical?
[14:23] <mikebeecham> ThinkTank, thanksmate...installed, but made no difference to the colour banding....and I still have a VERY large plymouth :(
[14:23] <mikebeecham> grrrr
[14:23] <benovic> ThinkTank, wow thank you! i was just researching that. thanks alot!
[14:23] <zphinx> aeon-ltd: tried, i get a choice, but for some reason it goes back to gdm, both gdm and entrance are installed tho.
[14:23] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: you could try disabling compiz
[14:24] <mikebeecham> how?
[14:24] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: while you were away i was reading a bit on that
[14:24] <mikebeecham> ok
[14:24] <j0hnboy> TiK: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/480915/ ... work boxes sources.list (the box im having the problem on)
[14:24] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: system -->> preferences --> appearance
[14:24] <aeon-ltd> zphinx: to set it permanently http://linuxandfriends.com/2008/09/06/change-default-display-manager-ubuntu-linux/
[14:25] <TiK> j0hnboy: let me try to install it first what wa the package name?
[14:25] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: visual effects, then none
[14:25] <j0hnboy> TiK: dockbarx
[14:25] <TiK> j0hnboy: DockbarX ? ok
[14:25] <zphinx> aeon-ltd: ill have a look, thanks.
[14:25] <mikebeecham> ok..just tried that...no change
[14:25] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: damn
[14:25] <mikebeecham> yup
[14:26] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: there is one more thing we could try
[14:26] <TiK> j0hnboy: its not in my repos
[14:26] <mikebeecham> ThinkTank, ok mate...I'm putty in your hands :D
[14:26] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: give me a sec on this one
[14:26] <mikebeecham> ok...listen.  Can I leaveyou reading up?  I need to get to the dentist, but will be back in about an hour...will you still be here?
[14:27] <benovic> ThinkTank, is the interface in the iptables command mandatory? i use ath0(wlan0), but since it should not even leave the computer i am a bit confused
[14:27] <helloers> Hello, ubuntu dont support screen "Samsung SyncMaster 931BW"?
[14:27] <j0hnboy> TiK: ya, it needs a ppa. but that's not my problem. dockbarx requires a specific version of gcc-4.4-base, which i accidentally updated toa newer version a while ago i guess on my work pc. so now that i hav that newer version. i don't know how to get the old version back on w/o uninstalling 238989234 packages
[14:27] <Sbioko> hi
[14:27] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: propably not, but if your online im gonna whisper you the solution
[14:27] <Sbioko> Ubuntu 10.10 does not want to boot after 10.04 upgrade
[14:27] <ThinkTank> benovic: try without it
[14:27] <benovic> ThinkTank, k ty!
[14:27] <Sbioko> It stops on "waiting_zombie_task"
[14:27] <Sbioko> something like that
[14:27] <bazhang> Sbioko, #ubuntu+1 for that
[14:28] <Sbioko> and Caps Lock is blinking
[14:28] <mikebeecham> i'll stay online....if you use a messenger, you can have my details also if you wish?
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> helloers:   You using a DVI or VGA connector?  Most monitors shoudl work just fine these days
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> Sbioko:  thats a hard crash. :(
[14:28] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: i dont =(
[14:28] <TiK> hm
[14:28] <TiK> that was anoying
[14:28] <mikebeecham> no worries...I'll leave xchat open, so whisper away :D....and thanks for the help!
[14:28] <ThinkTank> mikebeecham: np
[14:29] <j0hnboy> TiK: oh well, thx for trying to help man :)
[14:29] <TiK> j0hnboy: are you compiling it
[14:29] <helloers> Dr_Willis dvi
[14:29] <Sbioko> Dr_Willis: and I cant do anything? (((
[14:29] <TiK> j0hnboy:  on't see why would would need gcc unless you are compiling
[14:30] <helloers> When i want install, resolution is very low. But when i want start ubuntu i have only black screen...
[14:30] <cyphase> what's the easiest way to split mp3 files on linux?
[14:30] <j0hnboy> TiK: u see that ss, http://i.imgur.com/YzAA3.png
[14:30] <j0hnboy> TiK: it's one of dockarx's depencies dependcies, heh
[14:31] <j0hnboy> TiK: (if i understand this whole thing right)
[14:31] <abhijit> hi
[14:31] <sammarks14> TiK: it's not graphics.
[14:31] <cyphase> and then i find the answer :). mp3split has an option to split every X minutes
[14:31] <sammarks14> TiK: during the install, it just restarted again.
[14:31] <sammarks14> TiK: should i put in my old processor?
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> helloers:  tell the channel what the monitor/os/pc is doing exactly.
[14:32] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: OK I removed the kernel using apt-get remove linux-image(and so on) but now I need to remove the entry in grub2s menu. With the old grub I knew how to edit menu.lst but alas everything has changed. I have googled and I cant find which file to edit. Also, unfortunately when I do sudo update-grub I get grub-probe: error: Cannot get the real path of `/dev/sde'
[14:32] <sammarks14> TiK: I'm gonna replace my processor.
[14:33] <TiK> sammarks14: still froze?
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  the update-grub command is supposed to automate that.. there shouldent bee much need for manual altering of the grub files these days
[14:33] <TiK> sammarks14: even without the nvidia?
[14:33] <meditator> i'm trying to start a system using vmware player through the terminal / script could anyone please guide me with the command or a manual wheich i could read for scripting? thanks
[14:33] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: Yes I know but update-grub fails with grub-probe: error: Cannot get the real path of `/dev/sde'
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  its wanting to put the bootloader on sde? is that a flash drive? was it a flash drive?
[14:34] <jimcooncat> my pxe install keeps failing on "select and install software". How can I tell what is the hangup?
[14:34] <TiK> Dr_Willis: you can put the bootloader anyhere you ant
[14:34] <TiK> wat
[14:34] <TiK> want
[14:34] <sammarks14> TiK: it didnt' freeze, just restarted. without nVidia
[14:34] <sammarks14> well, its still nVidia
[14:34] <sammarks14> but its integrated graphics
[14:34] <glaucous> What's special about maverick kernel versions? Was wondering if it's safe to install from this ppa: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/kernel-ppa
[14:34] <TiK> sammarks14: so test it out for a while
[14:34] <adminewb> I'm having trouble on ubuntu, emulating Windows ICS in order to share an ethernet connection to internet, over a local wireless LAN. Been told to try bridging, but I believe ICS is more like behaving as a router not a bridge. Help?
[14:35] <sammarks14> TiK: i couldn't even install it...
[14:35] <bazhang> glaucous, #ubuntu+1 for maverick
[14:35] <TiK> sammarks14: download the drivers put ncidia back in and install them :O
[14:35] <sammarks14> okay
[14:35] <TiK> sammarks14: what did it do?
[14:35] <glaucous> bazhang: Hm mkay, thanks
[14:35] <sammarks14> screen went black, computer restarted
[14:35] <EasygoingPanda> http://www.coryhardman.com/2010/07/nexus-one-support-in-ubuntu-10-04/
[14:35] <sammarks14> like i hit some sort of reset button
[14:35] <TiK> sammarks14: so it installed?
[14:35] <sammarks14> no
[14:35] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: Grub is installed on sda6. I only have two hard disks (sda and sdb) so I dont know why it wants to find sde
[14:35] <sammarks14> during the installation it did that
[14:35] <TiK> sammarks14: hmm
[14:36] <TiK> sammarks14: try a text mode install with an alternative cd?
[14:36] <sammarks14> i can do a disc check
[14:36] <sammarks14> and then a text install
[14:36] <TiK> sammarks14: trya text instal
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  you cant put the bootloader on a hd that dosent exist. :)
[14:37] <radi> guys, in open office when i try to enlarge a font size it somehow cuts off the top part of the letters, if i export the file to pdf it looks ok, but while editing the document it looks weird and makes it difficult to align. any ideas ?
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  actually grub would be installed to teh MBR of sda. Im not sure where the sde is comming from.
[14:37] <adminewb> Is there a better forum for help configuring TCP/IP networking?
[14:37] <TiK> sammarks14: that weird
[14:37] <bazhang> adminewb, ##networking
[14:37] <adminewb> bazhang thanks
[14:37] <sammarks14> checking disc
[14:37] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: So how do I correct the files so update-grub will work again?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  check the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' see if tehre is a sde for some reason
[14:38] <TiK> sammarks14: hmm. yeah you already tried the graphics card and then you have tested the ram so I guess the next logical step isprocessor
[14:38] <blink> how can i prevent Rhythmbox from maximizing on startup? i just want it as tray icon.
[14:38] <sammarks14> yup
[14:38] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: No there is no sde
[14:38] <sammarks14> well
[14:38] <EasygoingPanda> (used 10.04) i used nexus one, i hope android device connection, but this problem..> http://www.coryhardman.com/2010/07/nexus-one-support-in-ubuntu-10-04/
[14:38] <Professor_G> i need shockwave (or shockwave alternitive) for ubuntu?
[14:39] <sammarks14> here's what ill do, if the disc check passes, ill switch my processor out
[14:39] <bazhang> Professor_G, none exist
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  you may want to ask in the forums or search the forums for that exact error message. I cant imagine why its saying it.
[14:39] <Professor_G> bazhang, :(
[14:39] <sammarks14> if, with the switched processor, the problem still occurs, i know for 100% that it's my graphics
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  or why it would fail even if it cant find it.
[14:39] <solow> is it possible to have a list of installd applications?
[14:39] <solow> installed*
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> !clone | solow
[14:39] <bazhang> solow, dpkg -l
[14:39] <sammarks14> disc check complete - no errors
[14:39] <sammarks14> time to switch processors
[14:39] <meditator> hello, i'm trying to start a system using vmware player through the terminal / script. What command should i use? Thanks
[14:40] <dreamx> Hi everyone, I'm looking for help to recover an Ubuntu installation on a MacBook Pro with rEFIt after reinstalling Windows 7
[14:40] <solow> No I mean, like windows has, just a list and a uninstall button
[14:40] <bazhang> solow, in synaptic package manager?
[14:41] <sammarks14> uh
[14:41] <sammarks14> slight issue
[14:41] <sammarks14> the fan won't come off the processor.
[14:41] <sammarks14> is it possible for thermal paste to melt into an adhesive?
[14:41] <Professor_G> :( now how am i to play a shockwave game in ubuntu. in fact i'm not sure if the game is shockwave
[14:41] <dreamx> I've tried several "solutions" found on the internet, but none seemed to address the problems I have
[14:41] <Professor_G> :( now how am i to play a shockwave game in ubuntu. in fact i'm not sure if the game is shockwave
[14:42] <bazhang> sammarks14, this sounds like a hardware issue
[14:42] <bazhang> sammarks14, try ##hardware
[14:42] <TiK> sammarks14: not sure
[14:42] <sammarks14> alright
[14:42] <bazhang> Professor_G, flash? flash games?
[14:42] <Professor_G> can someone tell me if this game is shockwave or not?
[14:43] <Professor_G> bazhang,  not sure what the game is? i don't have it
[14:43] <rawiramdhan> Could someone help me with restoring my grub (i'm using a LVM)
[14:43] <bazhang> Professor_G, what game?
[14:43] <Professor_G> bazhang, http://www.nickelodeon.com.au/games/break-the-damn-game
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> what an odd name/url for a Game with nickelodeon....
[14:44] <Pici> Professor_G: Yes, thats a shockwave game.
[14:44] <Professor_G> Dr_Willis,  he he
[14:44] <Professor_G> heh heh
[14:45] <blink> i got Rhythmbox as a startup application. How can i keep it from being visible on screen in startup?
[14:45] <Professor_G> bazhang,  is there a way of getting it to work
[14:46] <juxta> NGEN
[14:46] <bazhang> Professor_G, its just flash. you need to be logged in though
[14:46] <Pici> bazhang: No, its shockwave.  Not flash.
[14:46] <bazhang> Pici, shockwave? the others are flash
[14:46] <zindel> hi, got an HP ProBook 4720s - suspend to RAM doesn't work, any clue?
[14:46] <solow> I just installed Kkubuntu-desktop, how do I remove everything ubuntu related, that's no longer in use?
[14:46] <Pici> bazhang: I'm on Windows here. I don't have shockwave installed and it wants me to.
[14:46] <erUSUL> !purekde
[14:46] <Professor_G> bazhang,  i am logged in same thing no game rest of page ok
[14:46] <dreamx> Any suggestion (apart from reinstalling Ubuntu :P)?
[14:47] <jimcooncat> my pxe install keeps failing on "select and install software". How can I tell what is the hangup?
[14:47] <bazhang> Professor_G, well that one game is apparently shockwave, the others like the race game are flash
[14:47] <solow> erUSUL, this goes till 9.04
[14:47] <solow> erUSUL, I have 10.04
[14:47] <Professor_G> bazhang,  can i get it to work?
[14:48] <Pici> Professor_G: As I told you the other day, there is no version of shockwave for Linux.  You might try running a browser in wine and installing shockwave there, but I have no idea if that is a viable alternative.
[14:48] <bazhang> Professor_G, that one game? no
[14:48] <sammarks14> well they were no help...
[14:48] <Professor_G> bazhang,  :(
[14:48] <sammarks14> TiK: would it help to say that ubuntu works just fine in a virtual machine on windows?
[14:48] <erUSUL> solow: should be pretty similar.
[14:49] <solow> erUSUL, this also removes applications I still use
[14:49] <solow> erUSUL, I just want to remove applications I cant and dont use anymor
[14:49] <erUSUL> solow: do not list it in the remove command. or if you are using autoremove. reinstall only those apps you still use
[14:50] <Magnetro> But Virtual box on Unbuntu for windows is pathetic..
[14:50] <Magnetro> Might aswell dual boot.
[14:50] <Pici> Magnetro: Works fine for me.
[14:50] <bluedot82> hi everyone!
[14:50] <sammarks14> it works fine for me aswell
[14:50] <Magnetro> I must be doing something wrong then.
[14:50] <sammarks14> just runs a little slower
[14:50] <Magnetro> Pici; or mark.
[14:50] <sammarks14> you know what, screw it
[14:50] <bluedot82> guys, does anyone know how to install a language pack to openoffice?
[14:50] <sammarks14> im just going to install it on a virtual machine.
[14:51] <Magnetro> Would either of you help me install it by remote veiwer?
[14:51] <dreamx> So, no one has any idea on how to recover an Ubuntu installation on a MacBook Pro using rEFIt after reinstalling Windows 7?
[14:51] <solow> erUSUL, that list does not work, at all.
[14:52] <erUSUL> solow: then i dunno; sorry
[14:52] <Professor_G> bazhang,  tried the game in wine i get error bad format.
[14:52] <thrillERboy> Hi, I dual booted Ubuntu with win7, now I want to hide "System reserved" Partition from Places menu and FIle browser
[14:52] <thrillERboy> how to do it?
[14:52] <solow> erUSUL, I just noticed I'm using up 200GB of my hd, and all I have is 50gb music. so 150gb of ubuntu/kubuntu stuff....
[14:52] <KE1HA> bluedot82, Have a look here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Download_OpenOffice.org_LanguagePacks
[14:52] <erUSUL> solow: impossible, check the logs dir
[14:52] <Professor_G> bazhang,  what does this mean
[14:53] <erUSUL> solow: "sudo du -hs /var/log/"
[14:53] <bazhang> Professor_G, try in #winehq
[14:53] <bluedot82> KE1HA, thanks, I will open the site
[14:53] <erUSUL> solow: or use Aplications>Accesories>Disk use analizer.
[14:53] <dewman> good morning everyone....Has anyone had success with installing amanda software with a dds4 tape drive running 10.04?
[14:53] <solow> erUSUL, that's 15M
[14:53] <KE1HA> bluedot82, And here some basic how-too info for installing and other info: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1935
[14:53] <lap_dragon> Video games are very slow on my computer. Is there some way I can speed it up?
[14:54] <Vroomfondle> lap_dragon: what graphics hardware are you using, and which driver?
[14:54] <erUSUL> solow: then use Aplications>Accesories>Disk use analizer. to find out where the space is going
[14:54] <bluedot82> great, thanks KE1HA
[14:54] <lap_dragon> I dunno hold on
[14:54] <ectospasm> has anyone installed Oracle 11g on their machines?  It seems to install fine, though some (apparently non-critical) windows are partially blank.  This blank problem extends to sqldeveloper.  It seems to load OK (CLI doesn't report any errors), but the main application window is completely blank, and I can't use it.  Any ideas?
[14:54] <solow> erUSUL, I dont have that tool anymore (cant find it) I'm already on kubuntu.
[14:55] <erUSUL> solow: there should be a kde equivalent... ask in #kubuntu
[14:55] <msetim> why pitivi can't handle avi files?
[14:55] <Vroomfondle> ectospasm: you using Sun's JRE or the free JRE?
[14:55] <lap_dragon> How do I find out?
[14:55] <ectospasm> I tried installing the official SUN JRE/JDK instead of IcedTea/etc. I'm currently reinstalling Oracle with the SUN JRE+JDK, we'll see how it goes
[14:55] <Vroomfondle> lap_dragon: do an "lspci | grep -i vga" to find out your graphics hardware
[14:55] <MrKeuner> hello, has the package name for gnome-db changed? I cannot seem to find it
[14:56] <bluedot82> I'm off to some reading. :) Bye!
[14:56] <adminewb> Having trouble on ubuntu, trying to emulate Windows ICS (which has no such trouble) in order to share an ethernet connection to internet, over a local wireless LAN. Been told to try bridging, but I believe ICS is more like behaving as a router not a bridge. Help?
[14:56] <ectospasm> Vroomfondle: ^^^
[14:56] <lap_dragon> I am new to ubuntu, does that mean I run it in the terminal?
[14:56] <solow> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 68d8 any good? :p
[14:56] <Magnetro> Could anyone sign into remote viewer and get vitrual box or wine to woukd?
[14:56] <Vroomfondle> ectospasm: I see... that's what I'd try, too. Good luck.
[14:56] <Vroomfondle> solow: Yup. Now, have you installed the restricted drivers?
[14:56] <TiK> sammarks14: that because virtual box wmus all the hardware
[14:57] <Vroomfondle> the ones that come with Ubuntu are Free, and are alright for most stuff but not necessarily good for 3D
[14:57] <solow> Vroomfondle, I dont think you were talking with me, I was just curious if my video card is ok
[14:57] <Vroomfondle> oh
[14:57] <ectospasm> Vroomfondle: I heard the ATI open drivers have finally come of age
[14:57] <Vroomfondle> lap_dragon: yes, run it in the terminal
[14:58] <sammarks14> TiK: what's the best VM for ubuntu?
[14:58] <sammarks14> payware or freeware
[14:58] <meditator> ok.. i could figure out how to start xp in VMware, through the terminal. Now, how can i close ther terminal window ? it says that if i close the window the application will terminate ?can anyone please help? ... thanks
[14:58] <KE1HA> Magnetro, yes it can me done with RDT but it's not very responsive due to the amount of graphics being pulled across the network.
[14:59] <Magnetro> K
[14:59] <Magnetro> **
[14:59] <laptop_dragon> ok this is what I got
[14:59] <Magnetro> Kelha, no way to help huh?
[14:59] <laptop_dragon> 0:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[14:59] <sburjan> Hello
[14:59]  * laptop_dragon is lap_dragon , in case you haven't figured it ou tyet
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> meditator:  you started vmware from a terminal? you are saying?
[14:59] <Magnetro> I've been struggling to learn unbuntu and it's beating me dadly.
[15:00] <Magnetro> badly*
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Magnetro
[15:00] <sacarlson> I can't get my pidgen irc client to run but I guess this one (xchat) is working so I guess I will live with it.
[15:00] <Magnetro> Manual?
[15:00] <sburjan> how can I move the close, minize and maximize buttons to the right side of the window ?
[15:00] <laptop_dragon> So is there anything I can do to improve the performance?
[15:00] <Magnetro> I know that much.
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> meditator:  normally i do a sequence like -->  'command &' then 'exit'    to let me close the terminal window.. avoide the close button.
[15:01] <KE1HA> Magnetro, That problem is not really Linux exclusive, it's a product of the methodology / technology used.
[15:01] <TiK> sburjan: pretty easy hold on
[15:01] <Vroomfondle> laptop_dragon: hrm, okay. I think there's only one driver for that hardware.
[15:01] <laptop_dragon> ugh
[15:01] <ectospasm> Dr_Willis: if he closes the parent window, the background process will close
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> meditator:  or you can use 'ctrl-z' to background the task, then the 'bg' command, then 'exit'
[15:01] <Vroomfondle> laptop_dragon: do "glxinfo | grep -i dri" and see if anything pops out
[15:01] <meditator> Dr_Willis,  i mean.. just a command .. /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmplayer "/home/****/vmware/Windows XP Professional/Windows XP Professional.vmx"
[15:01] <TiK> sburjan: get "Ubuntu Tweak" it has that option
[15:01] <ectospasm> meditator: Alt-F2 in GNOME
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> ectospasm:  not with 'exit'    (from my many years of experience) with the CLOSE button. yes.
[15:02] <Magnetro> Yeah, this is a great dependable system..
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> meditator:  if its currently running.. ctrl-z  then bg. then exit.
[15:02] <Magnetro> I just need to beable to access some windows program
[15:02] <meditator> ok.. thanks .. let me try
[15:02] <Magnetro> It's like people undermine unbuntu.
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> meditator:  in the future use the & method and exit commands.
[15:02] <laptop_dragon> ok I just installed mesa-utils
[15:02] <KE1HA> Magnetro, so you need docs on Remote Desktop ?
[15:02] <Vroomfondle> hrm, mesa is software rendering
[15:03] <meditator> Dr_Willis, ctrl+z worked .. thanks.. so in the script i should just put 'exit' at the end, is it?
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[15:03] <FloodBot3> klorei: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[15:03] <Magnetro> I need someone to view why VB or wine won't work correctly.
[15:03] <Pici> Feel free to ignore the spam.
[15:03] <abhijit> :/
[15:03] <guampa> ?
[15:03] <kim0> what's that
[15:03] <guampa> oh
[15:03] <Magnetro> Those are my only to concerns.
[15:03] <vect> god
[15:03] <kim0> spam duh
[15:04] <radi> wtf
[15:04] <epure_> spam yeah but he might be right
[15:04] <epure_> or not?
[15:04] <radi> im not using proxy
[15:04] <ectospasm> Magnetro: what are you trying to do with WINE?
[15:04] <laptop_dragon> ignore the spam
[15:04] <radi> im using vergin media :D
[15:04] <HinHin> I'm trying to drink wine
[15:04] <Vroomfondle> laptop_dragon: I just googled and found http://www.allquests.com/question/4178086/Intel-945-no-desktop-effects-or-glx-and-glxinfo-crashes.html.   Try "sudo aptitude remove nvidia-glx-173" then enter your password, and see if it removes anything
[15:04] <Professor_G> ignore that
[15:04] <Magnetro> Run streetfighteronline application.
[15:04] <abhijit> i was busy ..........playin farmville. and that spam....... :(
[15:04] <zindel> I'm not using proxy either
[15:04] <laptop_dragon> Why would I want to remove somehting?
[15:04] <Pici> IGNORE THE SPAM
[15:04] <laptop_dragon> *something
[15:04] <gnomefreak> can we please stay on topic
[15:04] <mr_pinc> Anyone have a recommendation out there for setting up Tomcat and PHP/MySQL on the same server,  I can't seem to find any really good guides to do this
[15:04] <KE1HA> Magnetro, Ok, just to make sure I know what your doing, your on a Ubuntu Box, and your RDT to a widows machine then running VBOX ?
[15:04] <meditator> Dr_Willis, ctrl+z worked .. thanks.. so in the script i should just put 'exit' at the end, is it?
[15:05] <guampa> i'm with you abhijit, be strong, it can happen sometimes
[15:05] <mneisen> mr_pinc: What seems to be the problem?
[15:05] <Magnetro> No...
[15:05] <Vroomfondle> laptop_dragon: according to that page, there was a problem in the past in which the NVidia graphics drivers were accidentally distributed to some people who didn't need them (maybe including you?) and that tends to break things if you don't have an nvidia card
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> meditator:  a script should have a 'command &' then 'exit' at the end.
[15:05] <laptop_dragon> ok
[15:05] <Vroomfondle> because the NVidia drivers overwrite some files
[15:05] <Magnetro> Not at all, i'm on an unbuntu trying to get wine to work properly
[15:05] <Magnetro> or get VB working.
[15:06] <laptop_dragon> I am also having trouble with my sound card.
[15:06] <laptop_dragon> It isn't working at all
[15:06] <ectospasm> Magnetro: WINE in my experience only works for very simple programs
[15:06] <jimcooncat> I appear to be fixed
[15:06] <mr_pinc> mneisen:  it's not so much of a problem but this is what I want to do.  I want to be able to server both PHP and JSP pages from the same server on port 80 and would also like to serve them from the same webroot, but really i don't know how to go about it or if it is even do able
[15:06] <Magnetro> That would explain it...
[15:06] <ectospasm> Magnetro: as for VB, you *might* try the Mono project
[15:06] <laptop_dragon> Card: HDA Intel                                      F1:  Help               │
[15:06] <laptop_dragon> │ Chip: Realtek ALC262
[15:06] <Magnetro> Mono project?
[15:07] <Vroomfondle> hrm... HDA
[15:07] <Vroomfondle> !hda
[15:07] <ectospasm> Magnetro: Mono is an implementation of MS .NET frameworks
[15:07] <laptop_dragon> Sometimes it works on headphones, but even when it does, it makes a high pitched eeeeeeeee
[15:07] <mr_pinc> And would getting Ubuntu Server edition and just installing lamp and tomcat servers at the same time if that would be the right approach or what
[15:07] <Vroomfondle> no factoid
[15:07] <KE1HA> Magnetro, ahh, ok. Well VBOX works well for most things, Wine i has a few issues. If you follow the Linux Installation guide on the Virtual Box Site, and install the Add-On's VBOX works pretty well.
[15:07] <Pici> !intelhda | Vroomfondle
[15:07] <derechtejohannes> hi is there a way to automatically shut down idle pci/pcie cards?
[15:07] <ectospasm> Magnetro: ... .Net on Linux/UNIX
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> VB = Vague  :)
[15:07] <Vroomfondle> aha
[15:07] <Vroomfondle> laptop_dragon: try the link that ubottu just gave me
[15:07]  * laptop_dragon checks it out
[15:07] <mneisen> mr_pinc: Same webroot means same virtual host?
[15:08] <Magnetro> Ectospasm, specific links?
[15:08] <KE1HA> Magnetro, I've found compiling VBOX from the sources, and adding in the add-on's makes things work much smoothers.
[15:08] <SandGorgon> does anybody know if XFS makes a tangible difference in performance ? I have heard a hell of lot of DB people say that XFS should be used on the DB machines... so I guess it is good for the desktop as well ?
[15:09] <mr_pinc> mneisen: uh... i guess.  it doesn't have to be, essentially what I want to do is have the main server be PHP since that is what I am familiar with but also server up JIRA (which is a JSP app) from a /jira folder or something like that
[15:09] <Magnetro> Don't know how to do that..
[15:09] <laptop_dragon> That isn't very clear
[15:09] <meditator> Dr_Willis, thanks
[15:09] <msetim> why pitivi can't handle avi files?
[15:09] <Magnetro> -.-''I can't even get my linux to unzip files.
[15:09] <Magnetro> even with using the command line.
[15:09] <bazhang> msetim, what are you trying to do
[15:09] <ectospasm> Magnetro: http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
[15:09] <High_Priest> Magnetro, sudo apt-get install unzip
[15:09] <Professor_G> back to i cant get this darn game to play
[15:09] <kalg> !seen
[15:09] <ectospasm> Magnetro: did you try the "unzip" CLI program?
[15:09] <KE1HA> mr_danie1, for lots of smaller files and tables, yes, for pure compiling r/w ext2/ext3 will outperform most of the time.
[15:10] <Magnetro> Did that Priest tried that.
[15:10] <KE1HA> mr_pinc, sri that was for you
[15:10] <laptop_dragon> It wont let me run this command /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz
[15:10] <laptop_dragon> or file whatever
[15:10] <High_Priest> Magnetro, and? unzip does not work?
[15:10] <Magnetro> Ectop, CLI?
[15:10] <laptop_dragon> It says permission denied
[15:10] <jimcooncat> what options are available for 10.04's tasksel?
[15:10] <ectospasm> Magnetro: Command Line Interface
[15:10] <Magnetro> Yeah it never works.
[15:10] <TiK> Magnetro: just a fancy term for terminal
[15:10] <mr_pinc> Wbat was for me?
[15:10] <Magnetro> But i'm sure it's just me,
[15:11] <TiK> agruman: are you trying to uzip more than 1 file?
[15:11] <shane2peru> I need a good gnome clipboard manager, parcellite hangs up after several days of running
[15:11] <Pici> jimcooncat: tasksel --list-tasks, or run it with no arguments interactively
[15:11] <ectospasm> Magnetro: how so?  I just use "unzip myfile.zip" and it works
[15:11] <msetim> bazhang, i'm importing and avi file and trying to cut it. When I import the pitivi show it on library and I can reproduce it, but when the time line don't show the video and cut button doesn't work
[15:11] <TiK> er
[15:11] <High_Priest> Magnetro, how exactly does it not work? any error message?
[15:11] <TiK> Magnetro: are you trying to unzip for than 1 file?
[15:11] <KE1HA> mr_pinc, yes overall, you'd probably be better off wiht EXT2/EXT3 over XFS
[15:11] <jimcooncat> Pici: I don't have that up and running though
[15:11] <mneisen> mr_pinc: Well, in that case I would recommend installing PHP/MySQL and tomcat; after that, use a reverse proxy to connect your Apache with tomcat, and configure two virtual hosts: One for PHP, one for tomcat.
[15:11] <Magnetro> It always states non-existing directory or file.
[15:11] <laptop_dragon> ok nvm
[15:12] <mneisen> mr_pinc: Read up about that here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/
[15:12] <laptop_dragon> I see the list of computers for my codec but mine isn't listed
[15:12] <crankharder> anyone know how to install virtualbox guest editions for an ubuntu guest?
[15:12] <Pici> jimcooncat: Heres the results on Lucid: http://pastebin.com/bZmPH4ef
[15:12] <crankharder> guest additions
[15:12] <jimcooncat> Pici, I'm doing a pxe install and all I have is a very old install
[15:12] <KE1HA> mr_pinc, SRI, wow, im out to lunch this morning, disregaurd.
[15:12] <jimcooncat> thanks Pici!
[15:12] <bazhang> msetim, not sure there, I've tried others though that do work with video editing such as avidemux et al
[15:12] <ectospasm> shane2peru: how big is your parcellite history?  I keep mine at ~30 items.  Perhaps you've got too big of a history list, and parcellite crashes?
[15:12] <laptop_dragon> Codec: Realtek ALC262
[15:12] <High_Priest> Magnetro, are you sure you got the right syntax?
[15:12] <Professor_G> the damn thing nothing works right now this so called 'ubuntu' came along
[15:12] <laptop_dragon> My laptop is a viao
[15:12] <laptop_dragon> but it is not listed
[15:12] <Magnetro> positive.
[15:13] <shane2peru> ectospasm, perhaps, I think I just kept mine at the normal size 20?  let me check
[15:13] <mr_pinc> mneisen: so if the incoming port is 80 and hte folder is /jira/ I can point them to the Tomcat folder holding the same app?
[15:13] <bazhang> Professor_G, shockwave is not available for linux to run that game
[15:13] <Professor_G> bazhang,  shame
[15:13] <mr_pinc> mneisen:  So if I am using Ubuntu Server edition I should choose to install both LAMP and Tomcat at the same time?  (And openssh since I would want that as well)?
[15:13] <bazhang> Professor_G, indeed. no need to repeat asking for it
[15:13] <laptop_dragon> ugh can somebody teamview me or something?
[15:14] <sacarlson> I can't get my usb flash to boot after a persistant boot install.  In my system bios what setting should I select to boot a flash drive  my choices usb-fdd  usb-cdrom usb-zip? I think there might have been another choice but I forget.
[15:14] <Magnetro> Me too..
[15:14] <solow> Are there techniques available to install photoshop yet?
[15:14] <solow> !manual | photoshop
[15:14] <Magnetro> I need someone to do this for me -.-
[15:14] <Pici> !appdb | solow
[15:14] <shane2peru> ectospasm, 25, should I uncheck save history?  would that help?
[15:14] <bazhang> solow, try the appdb and join #winehq
[15:14] <xangua> solow: ¿¿
[15:14] <dogmatic69> could someone help me with getting wifi working on ubuntu10? ive added the settings but cant seem to connect
[15:15] <ectospasm> shane2peru: possibly, I don't save my history I don't think
[15:15] <msetim> bazhang, thanks... i will try it. Pitivi is easy... is a pity that does not work
[15:15] <shane2peru> ectospasm, hmm, that could be the problem right there, thanks!!!  I will try that for a few days, and see if that helps
[15:15] <stefan33> Ah, finally out of unregistered hell.  Has anyone else seen issues with Switch User on 10.04 (32 bit)?  I have a couple machines that don't seem to want to handle it gracefully, but all my 64 bit machines have yet to show any issues.
[15:15] <blink> i got Rhythmbox as a startup application. How can i keep it from being visible on screen in startup?
[15:16] <ectospasm> shane2peru: actually, I'm saving history... I probably have that on two machines that run constantly, no problem either place
[15:16] <shane2peru> ectospasm, I could even cut it down to like 10, I don't usually I just need some recent stuff, less then 10 copies back
[15:16] <ectospasm> I've got mine set to 25
[15:16] <shane2peru> ectospasm, hmm, whatever I did, it didn't like it, it locked up.
[15:17] <stefan33> dogmatic69:  Stupid question, but do you know your wireless is running OK at that location?  Do you have another device that can connect?
[15:17] <dogmatic69> ive been searching google and tried some things like : sudo lshw -C network which does not show the wireless card
[15:17] <stefan33> dogmatic69:  Ahh, you aren't there yet.
[15:17] <High_Priest> dogmatic69, do you see it with iwconfig?
[15:17] <mneisen> mr_pinc: Yep.
[15:17] <dogmatic69> stefan33: ubuntu is in a vm, im using wifi on the host
[15:17] <shane2peru> ectospasm, well, whatever you do, don't uncheck the save history box, seems to go spastic, doesn't respond to anything now.
[15:18] <dogmatic69> lo        no wireless extensions.
[15:18] <dogmatic69> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[15:18] <dogmatic69> stefan33: ^ iwconfig
[15:18] <stefan33> dogmatic69:  Have you told the VM to give the hardware to the guest?
[15:18] <osmosis> anyone aware of kvm issues with cpu frequency scaling? i seem to have hit that.
[15:19] <stefan33> osmosis:  I am running a pair of KVMs and haven't had any problems?
[15:19] <dogmatic69> stefan33: good point... ill check that quick
[15:20] <mr_pinc> mneisen: thanks for the help
[15:21] <mneisen> Welcome.
[15:21] <dogmatic69> stefan33: ok i added it.. should i restart anything?
[15:21] <private_meta> How do I deactivate the disk check when booting ubuntu?
[15:21] <stefan33> You will have to restart the guest, yes.
[15:21] <joofl> Hey guys, Every time i play a 3d rendered application such as Minecraft using the java runtime or UT3 under wine, my computer just completely exits the application to desktop at random points in play
[15:21] <stefan33> private_meta:  ?  You want to interrupt the fsck that has run, or you want to prevent it from happening?
[15:22] <private_meta> stefan33: the latter. The fsck doesn't do anything, it blocks the reboot, I always have to press c to cancel it, so I want to prevent it altogether or I can'T remotely reboot the machine
[15:22] <ZykoticK9> dogmatic69, typically your guest OS doesn't need to know what the host OS is using for internet (in your case wireless).  Networking is usually handled "virtually"
[15:23] <stefan33> private_meta:  It blocks it???  It should block it, it should exit.  How big are the disks it has to check?  It may take many minutes to complete.
[15:23] <KE1HA> private_meta, sudo tune2fs -c 9999 /dev/sda1  also see man tune2fs
[15:23] <dogmatic69> ZykoticK9: its a old laptop and i could not get wifi working on 9.04, im now on 10.04 and want to get rid of windows
[15:23] <private_meta> stefan33: it's a 40 or 60GB disk, and it NEVER completes
[15:23] <KE1HA> where /dev/sdax is which ever device you want to change.
[15:23] <stefan33> private_meta:  I would be careful turning it off, but as KE1HA points out, that's how you do it.
[15:23] <ZykoticK9> dogmatic69, if you use a "real" install you'll have to deal with wireless - but in a VM you don't
[15:24] <KE1HA> I dont recommend it personally.
[15:24] <dogmatic69> ZykoticK9: how you mean?
[15:24] <ZykoticK9> dogmatic69, you VM won't see your wireless card
[15:24] <dogmatic69> right
[15:24] <private_meta> stefan33: well, I wouldn't turn it off if it would finish
[15:24] <dogmatic69> so how can i know if it will work?
[15:25] <ZykoticK9> dogmatic69, use a livecd
[15:25] <joofl> Guys, most if not all 3d applications cause my system to completely and suddenly exit the application to desktop after a seemingly random amount of time, and then usually a random amount of time post-crash, the system completely locks up. Any logs i can check?
[15:25] <dogmatic69> ZykoticK9: good idea... did not thik of that
[15:25] <dogmatic69> ZykoticK9: can i just burn the dl onto cd? or is there something special to do with the dl for live cd?
[15:26] <ZykoticK9> dogmatic69, just burn the ISO to disk and boot from it :)
[15:26] <KE1HA> private_meta, That probably indicates some sort of problem, what that is, may be tricky to figure out.
[15:26] <ectospasm> joofl: I had a machine that did that often, until I decommissioned it.  I'm pretty sure it had a bad memory controller.  I used mprime to verify that.
[15:27] <joofl> What's mprime?
[15:27] <meditator> hello - is there a way to open an application in workspace 2 using script?
[15:27] <ectospasm> joofl: google the "Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search"
[15:27] <private_meta> KE1HA: Yeah, I figured that one out, it's my Level 100 Aura of Hardware Corruptability
[15:27] <dogmatic69> ZykoticK9: thanks
[15:27] <ectospasm> joofl: they have a tool which can stress test your system.
[15:27] <dogmatic69> ill give this a try
[15:27] <ectospasm> joofl: CPU + RAM, not video.
[15:27] <KE1HA> private_meta, Also look at IO-test for extended Disk I/O analysis.
[15:27] <ectospasm> joofl: my machine in question died after about 12 minutes of mprime
[15:28] <ZykoticK9> joofl, what graphics card are you using?
[15:28] <joofl> that website is un-navigatable lol
[15:28] <private_meta> Is that in the repository?
[15:28] <ectospasm> joofl: yeah, it ain't pretty, but mprime is a great tool
[15:28] <joofl> Geforce 8500GT. It was working absolutely fine until the other day
[15:28] <Its-me-again> i get an error when trying to use the desktop effects in ubuntu 10.04. it says. "the composite extention is not installed" i know compiz is installed. wht do i need
[15:28] <KE1HA> private_meta, I dont think so. It's a hardware level test app.
[15:28] <joofl> I installed the latest drivers from Nvidia the other day, could that break it?
[15:28] <ZykoticK9> Its-me-again, grahics driver issue most likely
[15:28] <ZykoticK9> joofl, YES
[15:29] <joofl> So should i just return to the suggested ubuntu driver
[15:29] <ectospasm> joofl: that could, nVidia has been known to release buggy drivers in the past.
[15:29] <KE1HA> private_meta, Although, IOzone is in the repos, that's good too.
[15:29] <private_meta> KE1HA: As long as it runs over SSH...
[15:29] <joofl> I'll go uninstall that driver. brb
[15:29] <ZykoticK9> joofl, if you can - not sure how to uninstall the nvidia.com driver
[15:29] <joofl> I am
[15:29] <joofl> I've done it before
[15:29] <ectospasm> joofl: did you install the restricted driver Ubuntu suggests, or the actual latest driver?  Some nvidia drivers don't work well with some chips
[15:29] <Its-me-again> ZykoticK9: ok thanks
[15:30] <joofl> The actual one from the site
[15:30] <private_meta> KE1HA: can't find iozone
[15:30] <joofl> using the .run in commandline
[15:30] <joofl> I'll go remove it and come back.
[15:30] <KE1HA> private_meta, yes, there all all command line apps, IOzone is a disk benchmark tool.
[15:30] <KE1HA> private_meta, its called i0zone3
[15:30] <KE1HA> whoop iozone3
[15:31] <ZykoticK9> Its-me-again, what graphics card are you using?
[15:31] <joofl> Ok console wont let me stop gdm :S
[15:31] <private_meta> KE1HA: no such package
[15:31] <private_meta> oh
[15:31] <ZykoticK9> joofl, "sudo service gdm stop"
[15:31] <private_meta> io, wait
[15:31] <private_meta> nope
[15:31] <private_meta> KE1HA: no such package in the current repository
[15:32] <private_meta> I mean, I wouldn't mind GUI tools all that much, but since Ubuntu 9.04 or so Ubuntu doesn't recognize my keyboard, USB ports or touchpad
[15:32] <KE1HA> private_meta, maybe in a restricted repo or something, have a look here, under file systems: http://ltp.sourceforge.net/tooltable.php
[15:32] <ilovefairuz> !info iozone3
[15:33] <Chell> Hi all. Does something like a "modern" terminal exist? With features like a fading cursor or smooth scrolling text/characters?
[15:33] <Its-me-again> ZykoticK9: hold on
[15:33] <ZykoticK9> Its-me-again, if you aren't sure you can use "lspci | grep -i vga" in a terminal for exact model
[15:33] <private_meta> ah i only got main, restricted and universe
[15:34] <rizzuh_laptop> I have a weird error, Gnome refused to accept any mouse input and no program would get keyboard input. I could only select text and change tabs in Chrome. What is going on? I had to put the computer to sleep and resume.
[15:34] <Its-me-again> Graphics:  Card nVidia C67 [GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M] X.Org 1.7.6 Res: 2304x800      GLX Renderer GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M/PCI/SSE2 GLX Version 2.1.2 NVIDIA 195.36.24
[15:34] <KE1HA> private_meta, bonnie++ is another good stress tester I've used in the past.
[15:34] <private_meta> it would be interesting to know why Ubuntu doesn't recognzie my USB ports, keyboard or touchpad anymore
[15:34] <Its-me-again> ZykoticK9: ^
[15:35] <ZykoticK9> Its-me-again, have you installed the nvidia driver from System / Admin / Hardware Drivers?
[15:35] <Its-me-again> ZykoticK9: yes i did
[15:35] <ZykoticK9> Its-me-again, sorry i don't know the issue then (assuming you've rebooted since installing driver)
[15:35] <Its-me-again> ZykoticK9: i used the recomended one
[15:35] <ZykoticK9> Its-me-again, that's the correct one ;)
[15:35] <Its-me-again> ZykoticK9: yes lots
[15:36] <private_meta> KE1HA: any recommended command line parameters for testing for iozone?
[15:36] <csis> IdleOne, how do I disable that keyring thingy in 10.04 ?
[15:36] <KE1HA> private_meta, I think the iozon3 is in multiverse
[15:36] <rizzuh_laptop> I have a weird error, Gnome refused to accept any mouse input and no program would get keyboard input. I could only select text and change tabs in Chrome. What is going on? I had to put the computer to sleep and resume. This is a HP Pavillion dv5-1101en, running Lucid; haven't had this problem with Karmic.
[15:36] <private_meta> KE1HA: Yes, it seems to be. I added the multiverse sources, installed it already
[15:36] <ZykoticK9> Its-me-again, do you know if you have an xorg.conf right now?  "ls /etc/X11" if you aren't sure.
[15:36] <KE1HA> private_meta, Run the defaults first, or have a look at the help docs, it's been been ages since I've ran it.
[15:36] <Its-me-again> its strange cause i could run desktop effects on my old p4 even though it did not do it properly.
[15:37] <okapi14> hi all, I have this error that I can not fix. Anyone has an idea "Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/libswt-gtk-3.6-java_3.6-1~ppa4_i386.deb"
[15:37] <Its-me-again> ZykoticK9: ^
[15:37] <ZykoticK9> Its-me-again, i saw
[15:37] <private_meta> Dammit... I can't check the filesystem while running the operating system :/
[15:37] <Its-me-again> ZykoticK9: Graphics:  Card nVidia C67 [GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M] X.Org 1.7.6 Res: 2304x800            GLX Renderer GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M/PCI/SSE2 GLX Version 2.1.2 NVIDIA 195.36.24
[15:38] <ZykoticK9> Its-me-again, do you know if you have an xorg.conf right now?  "ls /etc/X11" if you aren't sure.
[15:38] <private_meta> KE1HA: I got serious problems there... I can't use a live disk of any kind, as my cdrom drive ain't working no more, I can't use live system from usb as my usb ain't bootable, and I only have one partition, so I can't dual boot into a different system
[15:38] <cannonfodder> hey you guys..hows the transition from linux to mac?  is the bash scripting available in mac? is sudo and all these linux tools available?
[15:38] <private_meta> I feel seriously screwed by my hardware...
[15:38] <Its-me-again> ZykoticK9: CPU:       Dual core AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 (SMP) cache 1024 KB flags (sse3 nx lm svm)            Clock Speeds: (1) 2000.00 MHz (2) 2000.00 MHz
[15:38] <csis> cannonball, NO!
[15:38] <cannonfodder> ?
[15:38] <ZykoticK9> Its-me-again, i don't need all your computer specs...
[15:39] <KE1HA> private_meta, yes, that's a bit of a problem. Why can't you boot from USB ?
[15:39] <private_meta> KE1HA: It's an old notebook
[15:39] <erUSUL> cannonfodder: bash is aviable. not sure if you need sudo in a MACOSX system. the cli tools are different in the details
[15:39] <KE1HA> private_meta, not Boot-From option in the BIOS?
[15:39] <private_meta> KE1HA: No from-USB-option at least
[15:39] <cannonfodder> erusul thanks
[15:40] <KE1HA> private_meta, Well, you could try Wubi
[15:40] <Its-me-again> ZykoticK9: i have everthing needed to run the effects so y cant i
[15:40] <KE1HA> If you have Windows that is.
[15:40] <Its-me-again> compiz is installed
[15:40] <Its-me-again> i have the corect drivers
[15:40] <private_meta> KE1HA: and what good would that do?
[15:40] <ZykoticK9> Its-me-again, do you know if you have an xorg.conf right now?  "ls /etc/X11" if you aren't sure.  (last time asking)
[15:40] <soreau> Its-me-again: Can you pastebin the output of 'compiz --replace' from your terminal to pastebin.com?
[15:41] <KE1HA> private_meta, Would give you access to the native FS without it being mounted.
[15:41] <KE1HA> or you could try a chroot, and unmount the FS you need to check.
[15:41] <private_meta> KE1HA: I don't have Windows on that laptop, and I can't install it
[15:41] <Its-me-again> ZykoticK9: i do use dual screen would that effect the desktop effects ???
[15:42] <KE1HA> private_meta, You need one or the other, a funcitonal CD-Rom, or bootable media of some sort.
[15:42] <ZykoticK9> Its-me-again, good luck.  Did you see soreau's question?
[15:42] <private_meta> KE1HA: well, I have neither, didn't have it for the last 2-3 times either when I set up Ubuntu on that machine
[15:42] <KE1HA> private_meta, How did you install the OS ?
[15:43] <private_meta> KE1HA: plugged the hard drive into a laptop I borrowed from someone, installed it, plugged it back
[15:43] <soreau> Its-me-again: With ubuntu's version of compiz, yes, dual screen can affect whether or not you can run ubuntu's version of compiz
[15:44] <okapi14> hi all, I have this error that I can not fix. Anyone has an idea "Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/libswt-gtk-3.6-java_3.6-1~ppa4_i386.deb"
[15:44] <KE1HA> private_meta, well that is creative :-) .. I use a USB DVD/CD-ROm for that stuff, but that's the only way I can suggest, a Portable CD-ROm drive.
[15:44] <private_meta> KE1HA: That doesn't work
[15:44] <KE1HA> private_meta, Out of options mate.
[15:44] <private_meta> KE1HA: It wouldn't be fun if it were easy now, would it?
[15:45] <KE1HA> private_meta, you could pull the drive, and stick it in a workstation
[15:45] <private_meta> KE1HA: that I could
[15:45] <KE1HA> then umount it and test there.
[15:46] <private_meta> gotta finish my thesis first, I won't use Linux until on my work computer again until I did that XD
[15:46] <elbatico1> hy, do someone know how to use the open driver for ATI video card? I don't get it how to enable 3D accelleration.
[15:48] <Its-me-again> Souljah: there is no composite extention. the command locks my screen
[15:48] <private_meta> Use a Wood 1 driver, you get it in any golf store... then put the graphics card on a tee and hit it... the parabola the graphics will fly in will be 3D
[15:48] <abhijit> :-o
[15:48] <private_meta> *graphics card
[15:49] <KE1HA> private_meta, however, that wont test you disk controller sub-system obviously, which could also be attributing to the problems your seeing, but could eliminate the disk itself as the problem source.
[15:49] <IdleOne> private_meta: Please avoid making unhelpful/comical comments. Thank you.
[15:49] <private_meta> IdleOne: roger
[15:49] <private_meta> KE1HA: Well, the last time the hard disk inside that notebook broke, the IDE adapter ran wild, had some fun with that
[15:50] <Professor_G> now where do i find .isos for vurtualbox
[15:50] <Its-me-again> ZykoticK9:  there is no composite extention. the command soreau gave locks my screen
[15:50] <ZykoticK9> Its-me-again, sorry i can't help
[15:50] <bazhang> Professor_G, there are no iso for virtualbox
[15:50] <KE1HA> private_meta, roger that, given your boot-option limitations, that's about all I can suggest.
[15:51] <soreau> Its-me-again: Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and the output of 'LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo'?
[15:51] <private_meta> Professor_G: if you are thinking about the isos for the operating system, since you are in this channel you can just use the ubuntu mirror for your isos
[15:51] <bazhang> !torrents
[15:51] <iluminator101> Hi, after i upgraded my kernel my encrypted /home partition does not auto mount, how do i make it automount
[15:51] <Professor_G> private_meta,  yeah
[15:51] <private_meta> Professor_G: that sounds like a big "but"
[15:52] <elbatico1> does anyone know how to enable 3D accelleration for an old ati video card using the integrated driver of ubuntu 10.4??
[15:52] <private_meta> KE1HA: Thankful for that. I should probably buy a new low-end notebook for server purposes
[15:52] <erUSUL> elbatico1: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why it is not enabled.
[15:52] <erUSUL> elbatico1: should be by default
[15:53] <Professor_G> private_meta,  that is a big butt . lol. just google and it works
[15:53] <elbatico1> erusul: but don't work
[15:53] <KE1HA> private_meta, well, notebooks don't generally make good servers if high availability and reliability are concerns.
[15:53] <iluminator101> Hi, after i upgraded my kernel my encrypted /home partition does not auto mount, how do i make it automount
[15:53] <Its-me-again> soreau: ZykoticK9 http://www.pastebin.org/618400
[15:53] <elbatico1> i'll check the .log
[15:54] <elbatico1> thanks for answer
[15:54] <private_meta> KE1HA: I use it for private purposes because they are silent, are very power efficient and come with keyboard, mouse and screen
[15:54] <picard1400> KE1HA hey
[15:55] <KE1HA> hi picard1400
[15:55] <ZykoticK9> soreau, from Its-me-again's pastebin - is xinerama enabled and twinview NOT enabled???
[15:56] <private_meta> KE1HA: although in terms of weird looking servers i can't beat the shoe box servers one of my colleagues had
[15:56] <ikonia> Its-me-again: are you using ubuntu or mint ?
[15:56] <Its-me-again> ZykoticK9: hold on looking
[15:56] <ikonia> Its-me-again: as we have discussed this before
[15:57] <iluminator101> Hi, after i upgraded my kernel my encrypted /home partition does not auto mount, how do i make it automount
[15:58] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, can I ask what tipped you off to Mint being used?
[15:58] <ikonia> ZykoticK9: sorry no
[15:58] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, ok
[15:59] <KE1HA> ZykoticK9, check the pastebin
[15:59] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, thanks - missed the obvious ;)
[16:03] <Error404NotFound> how can i make my samba not listen on internet ip address? i want it to be just listen to LAN IPs.
[16:04] <elbatico1> erUSUL: sorry to bother you, I just take at Xorg.0.log, it seems fine. nothing said some about error. do I have to look for some specific?
[16:05] <mikebeecham> ThinkTank, I'm back, but xchat crashed....could you post that whisper again mate?
[16:09] <marcuy> anybody knows how can I solve this: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:09] <marcuy>   libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa (= 7.6.0-1ubuntu4) but 7.6.1~git20091217.20ee2759-0ubuntu0~xup~1 is to be installed
[16:09] <sonny_jim> I can't use any other gfx card to boot ubuntu other than onboard
[16:09] <sonny_jim> I've tried Nvidia, Ati, all just seq fault as soon as the kernel is loaded
[16:10] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I am experiencing colour banding on 10.04.  I am using 24bit colour, but cant seem to sort the problem out.  Can anyone help?
[16:10] <BluesKaj> hello folks
[16:10] <elbatico1> I have a problem with my old ati video card. I can't enable 3D accelleration. Xorg.0.log seems errorless, when I try to get some information the command glxinfo answer"display 0.0 segmentation faul";" glxinfo | grep rendering" don't answer me at all. Can anyone help, please?
[16:10] <elbatico1> hello bluesky
[16:11] <iluminator101> Hi, after i upgraded my kernel my encrypted /home partition does not auto mount, how do i make it automount
[16:11] <scheuri> hello all
[16:11] <elbatico1> hy
[16:11] <BluesKaj> elbatico1, install mesa-utils
[16:12] <elbatico1> erUSUL: what is it exactly?
[16:12] <scheuri> Q: I have a broadband mobile card (working on 10.04) and an intel wireless card in my laptop. Is it possible to share my broadband internet by acting as an AP in an easy way (preferably GUI steps)
[16:12] <Newa> I'm wondering if I should install fglrx in lucid, now using radeon. Card is Ati radeon 9800 and I'm quite fond of compiz-fusion
[16:13] <BluesKaj> elbatico1, it's the utility that tracks your graphics like 3D and Dir
[16:13] <elbatico1> erUSUL: ok, i'll try it, thanks
[16:14] <KE1HA> scheuri, Have a look here for some ideas: http://bigbrovar.wordpress.com/2009/01/17/share-you-internet-wirelessly-on-ubuntu/
[16:14] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I am experiencing colour banding on 10.04.  I am using 24bit colour, but cant seem to sort the problem out.  Can anyone help?
[16:14] <iluminator101> Hi, after i upgraded my kernel my encrypted /home partition does not auto mount, how do i make it automount
[16:14] <sealibora> is teher a way to start guest session from command line ?
[16:15] <sealibora> is there
[16:15] <sealibora> actually just starting another X server and gdm would work as well
[16:15] <cannonfodder> hey you guys...is there a command that lists all the man pages in my system so that i can grep them
[16:15] <scheuri> KE1HA: thanks a lot...that appears to be easy, hoping that my broadband modem will be used as outgoing connection
[16:16] <BluesKaj> !patience |mikebeecham
[16:16] <KE1HA> sealibora, Have a looky here: http://ubuntunext810.blogspot.com/2008/09/guest-session.html
[16:16] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj, :D Fair enough
[16:16] <marcuy>   libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa (= 7.6.0-1ubuntu4) but 7.6.1~git20091217.20ee2759-0ubuntu0~xup~1 is to be installed
[16:17] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, which graphics card ?
[16:17] <cannonfodder> do you guys know the command hat downloads a webpage...i think was wmirror or something but i really have forgotten what it was
[16:17] <marcuy> anybody knows how can I solve this: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:17] <marcuy> cannonball, wget
[16:17] <cannonfodder> ah thanks
[16:17] <marcuy>   libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa (= 7.6.0-1ubuntu4) but 7.6.1~git20091217.20ee2759-0ubuntu0~xup~1 is to be installed
[16:17] <BluesKaj> cannonfodder,  wger
[16:17] <BluesKaj> wget
[16:17] <elbatico1> erUSUL: mesa-utils it's allready installed, thanks anyway
[16:18] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj, Nvidia GeForce 7600GT
[16:18] <cannonfodder> thanks you guys
[16:18] <helen_black>  hello, I'm running a wine app (frozen throne) but since I changed workspace and came back I've lost it!! the music is still there... what can I do? I don't want to kill it and run it again 'cause it is updating...
[16:19] <cannonfodder> one more question...is there a command that will list all the man pages or entries  sort of like how "ls" lists files and folders
[16:19] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, hmm odd , I have the same card , but no problems so far...I have to state the obvious: check to see if it's seated properly
[16:19] <kind_bud> is there anyway to install a kmp kernal on ubuntu?
[16:19] <prince_jammys> cannonfodder: man -k .
[16:20] <prince_jammys> (maybe)
[16:20] <ZykoticK9> cannonfodder, you could try "apropos $foo"
[16:20] <cannonfodder> thanks you guys
[16:21] <bazhang> kind_bud, there is no such thing
[16:21] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, did you install the recomended driver from hardware in settings?
[16:22] <RingZer0> I am so impressed with ubuntu... I thought it was just going to be a fad.  and I was wrong.
[16:23] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj, Card is seated properly, I've tried 173, recommended...and now I'm on the latest from the nvidia website
[16:23] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj, brb
[16:23] <mikebeecham> need to reboot
[16:26] <ZykoticK9> Gwibber (Lucid) issue with Facebook feed running days behind.  Twitter/Identica working properly.  Issue doesn't seem to happen with 10.10.  Any ideas?
[16:27] <Pici> ZykoticK9: I remember seeing a facebook related change in the 10.10 changelogs, you'll likely need to install gwibber from a ppa to get that change in Lucid.
[16:27] <ZykoticK9> Pici, thanks
[16:27] <BluesKaj> kind_bud, check this out : http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/KMP_distribution,_installation_and_status_check
[16:29] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj,  back..sorry about that
[16:29] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, you should be running the nvidia-current driver with your card
[16:30] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj, I am going back into hardware drivers now and going for recommended.
[16:30] <KE1HA> mikebeecham, ditto what BluesKaj said, nvidia-common is the recommended not 173
[16:30] <mikebeecham> I downloaded and tried the relevant drivers for my card from nvidia, but there was no difference
[16:31] <mikebeecham> hey KE1HA I'm still turning up like a bad penny :D
[16:31] <mikebeecham> KE1HA, yeah, I've tried a number of driver versions now
[16:31] <mikebeecham> i need to reboot...brb
[16:32] <BluesKaj> KE1HA, nvidia-current
[16:32] <KE1HA> rr, yes, sri
[16:33] <KE1HA> current common, that's the same thing ins't it :-)
[16:34] <iluminator101> KE1HA, how do i give user permission to access-data file in /home?
[16:34] <KE1HA> chown {username} /file
[16:34] <KE1HA> or Samba
[16:35] <KE1HA> and Share /home
[16:35] <BluesKaj> KE1HA, I haven't seen "common" used
[16:35] <KE1HA> :-) it's not, was my error.
[16:36] <iluminator101> KE1HA, i upgraded my kernel /home is in a different partition, i cant access it, how do i change permission for this file Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop so user can access it
[16:36] <KE1HA> BluesKaj, in the repos its nvidia-current, which is the 195.36 driver, whihc is way behinfd I think.
[16:37] <BluesKaj> KE1HA,  behind? current is the recomended driver for the nvidia 7600gt
[16:37] <KE1HA> Illuminatus, I dont thin it matter what partition it's on, you still need to Share the the file / folder you want other to be able to access.
[16:38] <masterjail> hi!
[16:38] <iluminator101> KE1HA, yes how do i do that
[16:39] <KE1HA> BluesKaj, The drivers cover a wide range of cards, it's not model specific. If you look at the NV release notes, it will tell you which models are supported by that particular driver on a given OS
[16:39] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj, KE1HA listen guys...REALLY sorry to mess you around.  Whilst I was messing with some stuff on the nvidia drivers, I also ran some commands (as found in google) to address the plymouth @640 issue.  Now I've lost compiz and cant get it back....any thoughts
[16:39] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, the nvidia-current is the driver you need , check this out , it's a tutorial on installing : http://www.pastebin.ca/1921450
[16:39] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj, will look at that now
[16:40] <KE1HA> Illuminatus, here's simple Samba Share how-to, should help: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/05/19/how-to-share-files-and-folders-in-ubuntu/
[16:40] <BluesKaj> KE1HA, agreed and the recomended driver for this card is the currentr one :)
[16:40] <kish> !kde
[16:40] <masterjail> hello, anyone here got to view videos on apple.com?
[16:40] <KE1HA> BluesKaj, yep, as as for my 8800GT's and GTX-280's
[16:41] <KE1HA> as is*
[16:41] <bazhang> !sysinfo
[16:41] <iluminator101> KE1HA, yes how do i do that
[16:41] <KE1HA> Illuminatus, you follow the steps.
[16:43] <KE1HA> mikebeecham, pass, I dont know allot about compiz
[16:43] <mikebeecham> KE1HA, ok
[16:44] <webus> how i can view in which package command setup ?
[16:44] <webus> i want delete "play" command from ubuntu
[16:44] <abhijit> Webu, i think its in sox
[16:45] <ks3> webus, dpkg -S /path/to/command
[16:45] <noatime> Does anybody know how to make it so the gnome network applet will stick to a network (and keep trying to reconnect) once I tell it which one to connect to?
[16:45] <noatime> it's irritating when i tell it to connect to one network, and then it loses it's connection and picks a random other one
[16:45] <magnetron> noatime: are you using network-manager in the default gnome ubuntu?
[16:45] <noatime> magnetron: yeah
[16:46] <magnetron> noatime: if you have ever connected to a wireless network, it will create a profile for that network and assume you don't mind connecting to it in the future
[16:46] <magnetron> noatime: to prevent NM from connecting to that network, you need to remove the profile for that network
[16:47] <noatime> magnetron: well it's a network that in general I don't mind connecting to
[16:47] <noatime> magnetron: I just want it to sit still when I tell it a *specific* network
[16:47] <magnetron> noatime: so right click on NM, choose to edit the netork and remove everything that you want to blacklist
[16:48] <noatime> magnetron: okay... but you can see why that's not a good solution, right?
[16:48] <noatime> I'll deal with this problem later.  I have another issue...
[16:48] <noatime> when the network manager connects or disconnects, I get these notification popups on the top right corner
[16:48] <magnetron> noatime: just uncheck "connect automatically to this network" for all wireless networks, then
[16:48] <noatime> magnetron: ah, okay, thanks
[16:48] <noatime> these notifications, if I move my mouse over them, turn invisible... and then come back if I move my mouse away.
[16:49] <noatime> it's infuriating, do you know how to make them stop -_-
[16:49] <masterjail> anyone here managed to view quicktime videos??
[16:49] <noatime> masterjail: they seem to work with vlc
[16:49] <abhijit> !restricted | masterjail
[16:49] <masterjail> ok, thanks
[16:50] <masterjail> i would use free formats but that doesn't depends on me...
[16:51] <magnetron> noatime: ubuntu switched notification daemon some time ago. i can't remember the name, but maybe you could switch to the old one
[16:51] <Hover> has anyone tried to download all files from repo?
[16:51] <noatime> magnetron: can I just not have a notification daemon?
[16:51] <Hover> i tried with DownThemAll. but it only downloads the .html of all packages
[16:51] <bazhang> Hover, you want to mirror a repo?
[16:52] <noatime> magnetron: is there maybe a way to "tail -f" a list of notifications or something?  so it shows up on some terminal window but nowhere else?
[16:52] <Hover> something like that.
[16:52] <bazhang> Hover, explain
[16:53] <magnetron> noatime: it's possible to write your own notification daemon replacement. it uses DBUS so good luck
[16:53] <Hover> i want it for my office server so that we can install apps fast enough.
[16:53] <noatime> masterjail: try "sudo apt-get intall vlc"
[16:53] <noatime> masterjail: see if that can play your videos
[16:53] <noatime> magnetron: I don't want a notification daemon, I don't want notifications
[16:53] <magnetron> Hover: i recommend using apt-cacher-ng
[16:53] <Hover> we have 512 kbps internet in office with 20+ people using it.so downloading from net very slow.
[16:53] <noatime> magnetron: when I'm playing a video game I don't need to die because 1/6 of the screen was covered up with "congratulations, you just connected to some wifi"... especially as I play games while riding a bus!
[16:54] <masterjail> i got vlc, the problem is that videos are embedded on a webpage and cannot download them (or maybe i don't know how to download)
[16:54] <bazhang> masterjail, apple trailers?
[16:54] <Hover> so i want to create a local repo.
[16:54] <masterjail> apple tutorials about itouch, iphone ...
[16:54] <magnetron> noatime: my guess is that you have some profile in NM that says "auto-connect to linkys" or "auto-connect to NETGEAR"
[16:54] <Hover> wht does apt-cache-ng do?
[16:55] <noatime> masterjail: right click, view source, look for ".mov"
[16:55] <abhijit> !repo | Hover to set up your own repository see all these links and specialy last one
[16:55] <noatime> it won't work on every site but it might help
[16:55] <magnetron> Hover: it creates a proxy repository, one computer downloads .debs and all computers in the network can install them
[16:55] <KomiaPoika> hi
[16:55] <magnetron> Hover: it's designed for exactly the situation you are talking about
[16:55] <Hover> ok.thanks.
[16:55] <iluminator101> KE1HA, i just wanna give user permission to access this file thats all i tried this chmod 600 iluminator101 Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop
[16:55] <iluminator101> it didnt work
[16:56] <KomiaPoika> how can i have 2 different background pictures in gnome ubuntu? with an external monitor plugged to the laptop?
[16:56] <Hover> magnetron, ok. letme install it.
[16:56] <KE1HA> well 600 is for you , try 740 or 750
[16:57] <masterjail> noatime, i tried but there are not .mov... but i get it doing right click > info > multimedia tab ;)
[16:57] <masterjail> thanks
[16:57] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: KE1HA Having real problems now...every time I reboot it tells me that I'm going to have to run in low graphics mode only
[16:57] <noatime> masterjail: ah, good.  have fun!
[16:57] <Hover> and..are there any apps to call from pc-to-phone/mobile for free. (not voip)
[16:57] <noatime> does anybody know how to turn off gnome's notifications?
[16:57] <mikebeecham> i cannot get into nvidia settings, and when I look at Hardware drivers it tells me that I'm using "recommended"
[16:57] <noatime> the ones that will dodge your mouse like some kind of prank javascript nonsense?
[16:58] <TiK> Hover: that is voip
[16:58] <KE1HA> mikebeecham, what card do you have, and was the resolution ok initially after install ?
[16:58] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, I forgot to mention that the kdm stop translaytes to gdm stop in that tutorial id you are running gnome
[16:58] <mikebeecham> KE1HA: I'm using a nv 7600GT...everything was fine apart from colour banding on the wallpapers
[16:58] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: thanks mate, I worked that one out :D
[16:59] <mikebeecham> when I try and go into nvidia-settings, I see a popup "You do not appear to be using the nvidia x-driver.  please edit your configuration (just run #nvidia-xconfig' as root) and restart x-server
[17:00] <rizzuh_laptop> I have a weird error, Gnome refused to accept any mouse input and no program would get keyboard input. I could only select text and change tabs in Chrome. What is going on? I had to put the computer to sleep and resume. This is a HP Pavillion dv5-1101en, running Lucid; haven't had this problem with Karmic.
[17:00] <dominicdinada> i shut down my computer and now when i turned it on 2 keys stopped working
[17:00] <dominicdinada> WTF
[17:00] <Naznaz> hi, I got a problem with my grub, it never accepts my background image, is this the right channel to ask or is there a grub-specific one?
[17:00] <masterjail> noatime, it seems like a little video that links with the real video... so i couldn't get it... i'll try another thing... :S
[17:00] <noatime> masterjail: huh, weird...
[17:00] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, yes that was the last command in the tutorial sudo nvidi-xconfig
[17:01] <BluesKaj> err nvidia-xconfig
[17:01] <lap_dragon> Is there a good free photo editing program for ubuntu? (besides gimp)
[17:01] <dominicdinada> n key and the key to the left. nothing spilled or dropped on it what the heck
[17:01] <noatime> masterjail: I guess you probably need to get the proper codec support installed for whatever media player your browser uses
[17:01] <noatime> masterjail: sorry I can't be more specific than that :/
[17:01] <Ineluctable> Which Ubuntu cd do I use for a normal laptop?  Is it the desktop or netbook?
[17:01] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: when I do that, I see a couple of lines, ending in "New X configuration file written to '/etc/x11/xorg.conf"
[17:01] <KE1HA> mikebeecham, I dont know about the banding issue, but here's a collection of common problems and their respective correction. I let Ubuntu select my driver on my 8800GT's and it's seems to be ok: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/common-problems-and-solutions-for-nvidia-restricted-drivers-after-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex-upgrade.html
[17:01] <mikebeecham> but now I dont know how to restart x from the console
[17:02] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, startx
[17:02] <KE1HA> it's for 8x but the fixes are relevant.
[17:02] <hiku> mikebeecham: sudo kill -HUP Xorg
[17:02] <masterjail> i installed gnome mplayer but i can only heard... i can't watch... hehe
[17:02] <mikebeecham> Fatal server error BluesKaj
[17:02] <dominicdinada> was there a recent driver update that might cause this to happeV
[17:02] <dominicdinada> n*
[17:02] <mikebeecham> Server is already active for display 0
[17:02] <winnerjake7> hey, does anyone know what you need to run Office 2007 in ubuntu with WINE?
[17:02] <Ineluctable> Is the netbook cd for only netbooks or is is better for laptops? I am not too sure, because Fedora only has one cd for desktop, or laptop
[17:03] <hiku> mikebeecham: you could also just do : sudo killall Xorg, that will hard reset it.
[17:03] <abhijit> Ineluctable, only graphics is omptimized to fit small screen of netbook. all other things are same in netbook and desktop edition
[17:03] <mikebeecham> hiku: that got me back onto my desktop, thanks
[17:03] <Ineluctable> abhijit:  Thank You.
[17:04] <abhijit> Ineluctable, welcome.
[17:04] <mikebeecham> crap, blues left
[17:04] <mikebeecham> hmmm
[17:04] <hiku> mikebeecham: your welcome
[17:04] <dominicdinada> winnerjake7: why not just use open office
[17:04] <mikebeecham> hiku, since Blues just left...I'm in a pickle :D
[17:04] <masa--> how do i reset a user password from the root account ?
[17:04] <Hover> are there any apps to call from pc-to-phone/mobile through internet for free. (not voip)
[17:04] <TiK> sudo passwd user
[17:05] <TiK> hover: no
[17:05] <lap_dragon> What are some good torrent clients for ubuntu?
[17:05] <masa--> thx tik
[17:05] <Hover> ok.
[17:05] <TiK> cause that is voip
[17:05] <masterjail> noatime, i think i get it... when right click > info > multimedia tab... you can see the URL of a .mov file that looks like this: http://.......mov?width=640&height=400 ... i had only to copy from http to .mov and play it with VLC!
[17:05] <al_ektro> Hi, I have a problem regarding mysql server after update from 8.10 to 10.04. The mysql server just wont start, you can see an excerpt of my syslog here: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/398789/
[17:05] <dominicdinada> system -> manage users -> click on account and  then change pwd
[17:05] <Hover> TiK, but voip needs internet in both sides, isnt it?
[17:05] <noatime> masterjail: cool
[17:06] <TiK> Hover: no et skype ad an account its cheap
[17:06] <TiK> get*
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, is there a way to put driver source someplace (or add it to a program etc) so that when a new kernel is installed, the driver gets compiled automagically
[17:06] <Naznaz> hi, I got a problem with my grub, it never accepts my background image, is this the right channel to ask or is there a grub-specific one?
[17:06] <magnetron> Hover: i recommend using Ekiga + a SIP-to-phone provider
[17:06] <abhijit> Naznaz, if you are using ubuntu then ask here
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Naznaz: grub or grub2 ?
[17:06] <aar> Hello, how can I find out whether my ext3 file system has been mounted in ordered data mode?
[17:06] <Naznaz> grub2
[17:06] <hsr> Is installing spam- assasin is only about installing one package from synaptic??
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> Naznaz: http://linux.aldeby.org/configure-grub2-options-and-background.html
[17:07] <mikebeecham> KE1HA: reading your link now
[17:07] <Naznaz> i edited /etc/default/grub and removed the # before the resolution, put the .tga in /boot/grub and also edited the 05_debian
[17:07] <Naznaz> ok I'll have a look, thx
[17:07] <Hover> magnetron, SIP to phone provider means, phone/mobile service probiders?
[17:07] <winnerjake7> !status
[17:08] <magnetron> Hover: no, it's a provider that gives you a phone number. you can turn your PC into a phone by connecting to your SIP account at the provider
[17:08] <hsr> How to install spam assasin?
[17:08] <RingZer0> hsr: go to japan
[17:08] <magnetron> hsr: it's a spam mail filter, right?
[17:09] <RingZer0> it's a really good mail filter...
[17:09] <RingZer0> sa rox
[17:09] <hsr> RingZer0:
[17:09] <Hover> magnetron, and to get SIP what must we do?
[17:09] <hsr> RingZer0: What do you mean?
[17:09] <magnetron> hsr: i think only some mail clients can be used with it. depends on the mail client
[17:09] <RingZer0> hsr: duhh... all assassins live in japan
[17:09] <magnetron> Hover: you need to get an account at a SIP provider
[17:09] <vaggelis> hey guys. how can i connect to an other server? i am completely new here
[17:09] <hsr> magnetron
[17:09] <hsr> magnetron: Yeah
[17:09] <Naznaz> ok I'll give it a try, rebooting :p thx for your help
[17:10] <KE1HA> hsr, http://spamassassin.apache.org/  it's for the Mail Server, not a mail client.
[17:10] <hiku> vaggelis: like how do you connect via windows, or from an ssh client?
[17:10] <hsr> KE1HA: I was speaking of Mail server...
[17:10] <KE1HA> hsr, see Docs, and FAQ
[17:10] <dominicdinada> what on the software / driver side would cause my keys to stop working ? recent update?
[17:10] <magnetron> vaggelis: which IRC client are you using?
[17:10] <hsr> KE1HA: Yeah
[17:10] <vaggelis> hmmm. Ubuntu gnome, xirc
[17:10] <ksk_> Hello
[17:10] <ksk_> ther
[17:10] <KE1HA> hsr, but it's pretty good filter.
[17:10] <OpenSourceCode> lp
[17:11] <KE1HA> hsr, you have to teach it :-)
[17:11] <ksk_> can any one tel me the procedure to install the conky
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> back, if i crashed out before anyone could reply, i apologise
[17:11] <magnetron> hsr: which SMTP server are you using? dovecot? qmail?
[17:11] <replman> i'm trying to get powernowd to work with ubuntu 10.04, but when starting powernowd i get: http://pastebin.com/zSBgsRh4
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> ksk_: sudo apt-get install conky
[17:11] <dominicdinada> what on the software / driver side would cause my keys to stop working ? recent update?
[17:11] <trelayne> hey all, if I want to do software (security) updates on an Ubuntu Server (not desktop) how do I do that from the command line?
[17:12] <oCean_> ActionParsnip: about the automagically rebuild of kernelmodules, have a look into the dkms system (I never used it myself)
[17:12] <magnetron> !serverguide
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> trelayne: modify /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the lines for the repos you don't want, use a # character at the start of the line
[17:12] <ksk_> hello is ther any for newbies
[17:12] <hsr> magnetron: I have never tried doing anything with servers.. no idea...
[17:12] <replman> uh, after modprobe p4-clockmod it works ;-)
[17:12] <ksk_> please help me
[17:12] <hsr> magnetron: Would you guide on this?
[17:12] <dominicdinada> !ask | ksk_
[17:12] <hsr> KE1HA: Oh..
[17:13] <ksk_> tell me the conky installation
[17:13] <ksk_> bro
[17:13] <trelayne> thanks ActionParsnip
[17:13] <magnetron> hsr: um, i'm confused. are you currently running a mail server and asking us how to configure spamassassin to filter incoming mail?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> oCean_: yeah, i've made a real hacky version where the version of kernel is recorded before the reboot, on boot he current kernel is checked against the one in the file and then it compiles the source if its different
[17:13] <mikebeecham> I wonder if anyone can help...
[17:13] <KE1HA> trelayne, You may find this usefull: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[17:14] <ksk_> any one is ther for '
[17:14] <ksk_> ???
[17:14] <hsr> magnetron: Well i eventually i'll have to test there but now i am testing rather trying spamassin on ubuntu desktop
[17:14] <mikebeecham> I cant get ubuntu to run nvidia drivers, and if I try and restart X then I'm running in low graphics mode...can anyone help?
[17:14] <ksk_> me
[17:14] <ksk_> ??
[17:14] <replman> how can i load the module p4-clockmod automatically on startup?
[17:14] <FloodBot3> ksk_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:14] <Pici> ksk_: ActionParsnip answered you earlier: sudo apt-get install conky
[17:14] <CosmiChaos> im with nvidia-current and have no third party repo vdpau installed, still selecting vdpau in me-tv just give me black-screen and nosound
[17:14] <CosmiChaos> any idea?
[17:14] <trelayne> thanks KE1HA
[17:14] <mikebeecham> (EE) Failed to load module 'nvidia' (module does not exist, 0)
[17:14] <magnetron> trelayne: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/aptitude.html
[17:14] <hsr> magnetron: Eventually it will be used on a mail server if it fits the requirements
[17:14] <mikebeecham> (EE) No drivers available
[17:14] <BluesKaj> back, had to switch to the laptop
[17:15] <hsr> magnetron: Now, how should i try it on ubuntu?
[17:15] <ksk_> okay wait a min lemme run the command first
[17:15] <oCean_> ActionParsnip: As far as I've heard/read dkms should take care of kernel updates. For example vbox uses it.  dkms manualpage shows some info, but have not found a nice howto yet
[17:15] <laptop_dragon> How do I port forward on ubuntu?
[17:15] <TechMiX> Hi All! Is it posible to share internet via an ad-hoc connection? if so, how?
[17:15] <abhijit> google chrome is crashing after installing recent updates!!!
[17:15] <abhijit> help
[17:15] <hiku> laptop_dragon: iptables
[17:15] <magnetron> hsr: exactly what do you want to test? to my knowledge, spamassasin can't filter any mail if the server isn't HANDLING any mail!
[17:16] <hiku> !iptables > laptop_dragon
[17:16] <trelayne> thanks magnetron !
[17:16] <abhijit> TechMiX, yes its possible.
[17:16] <magnetron> trelayne: i think you want to "update" and then "upgrade". "upgrade" = install security updates
[17:16] <hsr> magnetron: I want to try spamassasin on ubuntu... if there is a need to setup a mail server, i will try that as well
[17:16] <KomiaPoika> a pentiumIII is that 32bit or 64bit architecture?
[17:16] <hsr> magnetron:  but how?
[17:16] <hiku> TechMiX: see if this helps - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html
[17:17] <hiku> KomiaPoika: 32bit
[17:17] <KomiaPoika> thx
[17:17] <hiku> KomiaPoika: your welcome
[17:17] <KE1HA> hsr, without a mail server, you have nothing to test against, so yes, you need PostFix or some level of mail Server.
[17:17] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: *cries* how I've missed you br
[17:17] <mikebeecham> i've bought you beer
[17:17] <hsr> Well at my institute we have a mail server on OpenSuse
[17:18] <mikebeecham> just in case
[17:18] <magnetron> hsr: here's a guide for Postfix https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/mail-filtering.html
[17:18] <hsr> KE1HA: Well at my institute we have a mail server on OpenSuse
[17:18] <markusik> list
[17:18] <dominicdinada> what on the software / driver side would cause my keys to stop working ? recent update? this is pissing me off nothing happened externally didnt spill,drop anything just last night perfect now this CRAP
[17:18] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, did you try system/admin/hardware drivers ...previously when you had a desktop /
[17:18] <magnetron> hsr: that guide also has instructions for installing postfix: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html
[17:18] <markusik> help
[17:18] <hsr> KE1HA: magnetro: please wait.. i'll give more details
[17:19] <mikebeecham> hi BluesKaj yes I did...since you left, I've tried reverting back to 173, and then back to recommended.  Nothing is really happening.  There are no nvidia settings available and the instructions to install nvidia-current aren't doing anything
[17:19] <KE1HA> hsr, each Distro is a bit different, but here's a how-too i've marked for reference: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[17:19] <lap_dragon> nvm
[17:19] <lap_dragon> I dont need to forward any ports
[17:19] <abhijit> OMG!! all my web browsers are chrashing after recent updates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:19] <abhijit> HELP
[17:20] <ikonia> !help > BluesKaj
[17:20] <ikonia> oops
[17:20] <ikonia> !help > abhijit
[17:20] <ikonia> sorry BluesKaj
[17:20] <FloodBot3> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:20] <abhijit> :(
[17:20] <magnetron> abhijit: is the power icon red? maybe you need to restart the computer.
[17:20] <abhijit> magnetron, no. its not
[17:20] <BluesKaj> ikonia, ok np
[17:21] <aar> Hello, how can I find out whether my ext3 file system has been mounted in ordered data mode?
[17:21] <abhijit> magnetron, does this may happen because i am importing photos in f-spot and its total aaprx 9000 photos ? system load is too high?
[17:21] <oCean_> aar: running 'mount' command should show all options per mounted filesystem
[17:21] <dominicdinada> what on the software / driver side would cause my keys to stop working ? recent update? this is pissing me off nothing happened externally didnt spill,drop anything just last night perfect now this CRAP
[17:22] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: as a last ditch option, I am happy to wipe and reinstall ubuntu...but hope not to go that far
[17:22] <KomiaPoika> how can i get my apple keyboard working? i tried several from control panel, but i can't make special characters, or use the numpad.
[17:22] <hsr> KE1HA: magnetro: Firewall has to be configurable for controlling the network activity. Suse linux 10 is used as mail server and Squid Proxy for sharing internet among users. The FTP service should be enabled for accessing the network folder. Also the solution for the intranet system, mail management and backup is required.
[17:22] <magnetron> dominicdinada: what kind of keys? GPG keys?
[17:22] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, let's get back to basics , lspci | grep VGA ,  what's the output ?
[17:22] <abhijit> :'(
[17:22] <hsr> KE1HA: magnetro: Spam filter has to filter all the inboxes created on the mail server. The mail server is configured in the campus but mails get forwarded from the hosted site. It should be configurable for blocking or enabling the mails from the specific domain. The list of the spam mails should be displayed with option of temporary release of any mail from the spam list.
[17:22] <aar> oCean_, this is the output: /dev/sda6 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,errors=remount-ro)
[17:22] <hsr> KE1HA: magnetro: That's all
[17:23] <KE1HA> hsr, That's about all I cna go ito in the general help section, you probably better off in the #ubuntu-server channel for specific server configureaitons.
[17:23] <aar> oCean_, I don't think there's anything there re ordered data
[17:23] <hsr> KE1HA: Oh
[17:23] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GT] (Rev a2)
[17:23] <hsr> magnetro: What do you say?
[17:23] <oCean_> aar: you should explicitly use the data=ordered option in the mount command or in the fstab 'options' field
[17:23] <dominicdinada> as in the physical KEYS since my n key is B keys are not workin g
[17:24] <Naznaz> dominicdinada, try killing your xserver and input in the console: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[17:24] <KE1HA> hsr, and addiontally, your server is not Ubuntu, so they may not be able to help there either, you could try opensuse channel
[17:24] <oCean_> aar: then (re)mount the filesystem and 'mount' command should show the 'data=ordered' option
[17:24] <magnetron> hsr: well, you didn't ask any question. what do you want us to help you with?
[17:24] <abhijit> magnetron, ?????
[17:24] <dominicdinada> Naznaz: Thank i will try
[17:24] <mastercactapus> hi, i stopped in yesterday about my screen going white on boot up and used nomodeset/xforcevesa but there were no hardware drivers; someone had asked if it goes away after awhile and i didnt know it did but after like 10-20 min or so (havent timed it) it does start working normally; is there something else i can try?
[17:24] <hiku> aar: check this - http://gnuru.org/article/666/ordered-data-mode
[17:24] <aar> oCean_, you mean I need to use data=ordered if I want it mounted with that option? Is the default not ordered?
[17:24] <aar> hiku, thx
[17:24] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, ok good , do you have a desktop or are you chatting from a diff pc ?
[17:24] <hsr> magnetron: Spam filter has to filter all the inboxes created on the mail server. The mail server is configured in the campus but mails get forwarded from the hosted site. It should be configurable for blocking or enabling the mails from the specific domain. The list of the spam mails should be displayed with option of temporary release of any mail from the spam list.
[17:25] <mikebeecham> I am on another machine, so we can do all we want :D
[17:25] <magnetron> KE1HA: hsr is trying to replace his opensuse server with an ubuntu server
[17:25] <KE1HA> magnetron, he's wanting to test spamassin on an opsensuse mail server
[17:25] <mikebeecham> my linux machine is right next to me BluesKaj
[17:25] <hsr> magnetron: Firewall has to be configurable for controlling the network activity. Suse linux 10 is used as mail server and Squid Proxy for sharing internet among users. The FTP service should be enabled for accessing the network folder. Also the solution for the intranet system, mail management and backup is required.
[17:25] <oCean_> aar: not sure what de default is, but the default is not shown. To make it explicit, you should use it in mount command or fstab
[17:25] <abhijit> all my web browsers are chrashing after recent updates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! helppppppp
[17:25] <aar> oCean_, ok
[17:25] <magnetron> hsr: i saw everything you wrote. twice. now what is your question?
[17:25] <KE1HA> magnetron, In either case, those are questions better suited in ubuntu-server wouldn't you say ?
[17:25] <hsr> abhijit: Did you try recovery mode?
[17:25] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, did you run sudo nvidia-xconfig ?
[17:25] <Pici> abhijit: You know how this channel works, please be patient.
[17:26] <abhijit> hsr, recovery? for web browsers?
[17:26] <abhijit> Pici, ok :(
[17:26] <oCean_> aar: oh, from 'man mount'  "ordered: this is default"
[17:26] <aar> oCean_, ok thx
[17:26] <hsr> abhijit: No, try restarting system in recovery mode since you are facing problem after update
[17:26] <CosmiChaos> can somebody with working VDPAU please highlight and send me the output of " ls /usr/lib/vdpau/ -la | grep libvdpau_nvidia.so.1 " without quotation marks?
[17:26] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: in both desktop and console I got the following "Unable to locale/open X configuration file.  New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[17:26] <abhijit> hsr, ok i wll try that . thanks
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> oCean_: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BuildingKernelModules#head-d313bd351f90d4f25a2143b7bbcff73f927731f0 :) looks grrovy. Thanks for the tip. DKMS is made by Dell, didn't know that
[17:27] <aar> oCean_, if the defalt is ordered data, that means taht commands like shred and wipe should work ok on ext3. so what is all the fuss about people warning re the use of wipe on ext file systems?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> ok, mikebeecham that's fine / normal output
[17:27] <hiku> CosmiChaos: libvdpau_nvidia.so.1 -> /etc/alternatives/libvdpau_nvidia.so.1
[17:27] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: cool
[17:27] <dominicdinada> Naznaz: encodig ? utf8 ?
[17:28] <oCean_> ActionParsnip: seems very straightforward..
[17:28] <CosmiChaos> hiku, damn i have the same why does i get black screen?
[17:28] <Naznaz> dominicdinada, uh not sure but think so
[17:28] <oCean_> aar: I really don't have a clue :)
[17:28] <hiku> CosmiChaos: no idea. do you have compiz turned on? I have all that stuff turned off.
[17:28] <aar> oCean_, ok thx
[17:28] <dominicdinada> Naznaz: well for english/american
[17:28] <CosmiChaos> ill check that
[17:28] <Naznaz> dominicdinada, should work fine afaik
[17:28] <hiku> CosmiChaos: I'm running 64bit and 32bit laptop and desktop both via nvidia cards...quadro fx series
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> oCean_: yeah man, liking it. Saves my hacky way anyhoo :)
[17:30] <hsr> magnetron: All right. Just please tell me what does it mean to have mails getting forwarded from the hosted site?
[17:30] <oCean_> ActionParsnip: it's funny actually, last week I was in #rhel asking where I could put a custom module, never got an answer. It was only when you asked that I remembered reading about dkms :))
[17:30] <shane2peru> apparently I have some non-rhythmbox files in my Music folder, everytime I open rhythmbox it asks to search for codex, any way to fix that?  quiet annoying.
[17:30] <magnetron> hsr: i'm not sure what it means
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> oCean_: makes the world go around dude
[17:31] <shaw1337> Hi all
[17:31] <shaw1337> I have a doubt regarding partitioning my drive using Gparted
[17:31] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, sudo chmod a+rw /dev/nvidia
[17:32] <abhijit> shaw1337, ask
[17:32] <hiku> shaw1337: like what doubt?
[17:32] <hsr> magnetron: Is it possible to try spam assasin on ubuntu desktop? Forget the distro based mail server for a while. Linux is linux irrespective of distro. So could you please assist me in using spamassasin on ubuntu desktop?
[17:32] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: cannot access `/dev/nvidia' : No such file or directory
[17:33] <magnetron> hsr: did you read the guide i gave a link to?
[17:33] <shaw1337> Gparted !! m not able to partition my drive :(
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> oCean_: if I can get that going i'm gonna be a VERY happy camper
[17:33] <hsr> magnetro: This one: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[17:33] <abhijit> is there any ap which will allow me to keep track of each activity i do ?
[17:33] <magnetron> hsr: no, that's not the links i have you
[17:33] <FreshPrince> hi
[17:33] <bonks> How do I upgrade a package, specifically subversion?
[17:33] <abhijit> !details | shaw1337
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> hsr: http://www.debuntu.org/postfix-and-pamassassin-how-to-filter-spam
[17:34] <hsr> abhijit: ap as in?
[17:34] <sergio> salve
[17:34] <sergio> !list
[17:34] <shaw1337> Hiku:I have a mount "/" drive of 450Gb and i want to create partitions from it , how to fix it ?
[17:34] <hsr> abhijit: Did the browser problem got solved?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, ok try this one and we'll know for sure , sudo lshw -C video
[17:35] <hsr> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[17:35] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: LOADS of info...do you want all of it?
[17:35] <KE1HA> hsr, Create a VBOX, use the server ISO, and make a mail-server to test it with using the links we've provided. Either way yuo need a mail-server to test it on.
[17:35] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: it's recognised the card, version a2, 32bits, 66Mhz, and a load of resources
[17:35] <hsr> KE1HA: Thats what i,m doing
[17:36] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, no look for a line like this > configuration: driver=i915 latency=0 , or some such
[17:36] <bonks> I'm guessing ubuntu's apt-get won't see the latest subversion release until someone adds it to the apt-get update list... when does this usually happen and how can I check its status?
[17:36] <hsr> BRB
[17:36] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: configuration=nvidia latency 32 maxlatency=1 mingnt=5
[17:36] <TiK> bonks, if you hav itinsaled
[17:36] <TiK> installed
[17:36] <magnetron> abhijit: try "hamster-applet", it's for GNOME
[17:36] <sergio> ciao per scaricare i film come faccio
[17:36] <TiK> updates will handle it automaticly
[17:37] <magnetron> !it | sergio
[17:37] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: sorry, beginning should be configuration: driver=nvidia
[17:37] <bonks> TiK: I have the previous version installed, i did apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade subversion.. but it didnt upgrade anything
[17:37] <TiK> not apt-get
[17:38] <TiK> the GUI update manager
[17:38] <TiK> when a new vesion is out it will showup there
[17:38] <bonks> i'm using ubuntu server edition.. is there a gui update manager?
[17:38] <TiK> do you have X?
[17:38] <bonks> no
[17:38] <TiK> weird
[17:38] <Pici> bonks: no.
[17:38] <shaw1337> Ubottu: I am using Ubuntu 9.10 and problem , am facing is with partitioning of my /dev/sda1 ext3 , mount point "/ " , Size =457.12Gb ,with /dev/sda2 extended of 8.64Gb and /dev/sda5 swap of 8.64Gb I want to create partition on /dev/sda1 ext3 plz help !
[17:38] <TiK> ok then
[17:39] <TiK> apt-get upgrade will update all programs
[17:39] <Pici> !who
[17:39] <bonks> everytime I do that, it says 0 upgraded, 0 etc..
[17:39] <hsr> Is there a way to have all the conversation which a user had in X-chat in one box?
[17:39] <TiK> because there is nothing avaiable or upgrade yet
[17:40] <Pici> bonks: 'upgrade' doesn't take any arguments.  What are you trying to do exactly?
[17:40] <Pici> !who
[17:40] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, ok then something else is not right, but another way might be to drop to a tty and remove nvidia-current , then do the tutorial again.
[17:40] <jimcooncat> oh, I just got bit hard. I didn't realize that I couldn't share apt-cacher with both Debian and Ubuntu. Any suggestions to replace apt-cacher? maybe squid?
[17:40] <bonks> Pici: I'm trying to upgrade subversion to the latest version (released today) but apt-get upgrade does not upgrade anything
[17:40] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: tty?
[17:40] <Pici> !latest | bonks
[17:40] <mikebeecham> ...I dont mind...if you could guide me through I'd appreciate it BluesKaj
[17:40] <blackMatrix_NY> hi all. Im stuck with this error. ERROR: Could not find KDE4 kde4-config. I couldn't find the package in apt-get ? what package should i be looking for ?
[17:41] <KE1HA> bonks, if you want a version that's not in the current repo's, you can build the .deb or build form source. both will not be supported from apt-get update
[17:41] <Pici> bonks: We are not a rolling release, updates don't come down the pipe like that.
[17:41] <bonks> Pici: that's what I figured, my original question was how can I monitor the status of these upgrades
[17:41] <shaw1337> abhijit:Ubottu: I am using Ubuntu 9.10 and problem , am facing is with partitioning of my /dev/sda1 ext3 , mount point "/ " , Size =457.12Gb ,with /dev/sda2 extended of 8.64Gb and /dev/sda5 swap of 8.64Gb I want to create partition from my  /dev/sda1 ext3 plz help !
[17:41] <oCean_> bonks: apt-cache policy <packagename> will show you the package versions installed *and* available.
[17:41] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 , then after your done , hit f7 to get the desktop
[17:42] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Try not using KDE4, its still in unstable state..
[17:42] <bonks> oCean_: thank you that is useful
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | bonks
[17:42] <Pici> bonks: I'm not sure what you mean by that.
[17:42] <icedwater> Is there any way I can set bluetooth not to start at boot time, or to adjust the default brightness?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> bonks: you may find a ppa with the newer version
[17:42] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Try not using KDE4, use lower stable version
[17:42] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: sorry, so what am I doing at ctrl+alt+f1....just going through the instructions again?
[17:42] <hsr> Is there a way to have all the conversation which a user had in X-chat in one box?
[17:42] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: I need to compile an application that requires it though ?
[17:42] <bonks> Pici: basically I want to know when to expect a new release ... maybe it is discussed on some forum
[17:43] <KE1HA> bonks, if your looking for 1.6.12 it's accepted in Maverick
[17:43] <IdleOne> How do I save/exit a file with vim?
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> bonks: it will come in the usual package review
[17:43] <KE1HA> :wq
[17:43] <oCean_> IdleOne: <esc> : q for quit or x! for write and quit
[17:43] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, yes , but remove whatever driver you installed while i was away
[17:43] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Oh... hold on lemme see
[17:43] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: I dont know how...sorry mate
[17:43] <IdleOne> oCean_: thank you
[17:44] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: ok
[17:44] <Pici> bonks: For just that package? Check its page on launchpad.
[17:44] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: What exactly you are doing?
[17:44] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: I think it was nvidia 265.44
[17:44] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: sorry, 256.44
[17:44] <lap_dragon> um is there such thing as having too fast of a download speed?
[17:45] <mgolisch> wheres the move stream in pavucontrol?
[17:45] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, wait let me check something first
[17:45] <mgolisch> its not there in lucid
[17:45] <mikebeecham> ok mate
[17:45] <magnetron> hsr: use the /lastlog command
[17:45] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: im trying to compile the program choqok. cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` ..
[17:45] <lap_dragon> My laptop is downloading over 1000kb/s
[17:45] <hsr> magnetron: where?
[17:45] <bonks> thanks guys, I think I have all the information for now
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> lap_dragon: yes, it could starve other systems
[17:45] <lap_dragon> okk
[17:45] <magnetron> hsr: "/lastlog hsr" bring up a window with every line that contains the word "hsr"
[17:45] <lap_dragon> After the download is complete, will they work again?
[17:45] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: i run that command but giving me the problem. I installed kde3 though
[17:46] <lap_dragon> or should I adjust it?
[17:46] <RolandD> I guess this is a simple question for the gurus but got me baffled. I am trying to do an rsync connection where the username has the @ symbol in it. How do I escape the @ symbol? I tried replacing it with a + but that didnt work.
[17:46] <KE1HA> lap_dragon, if its not broke, dont fix it :-)
[17:46] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: whereis kde3 kde3: /etc/kde3 /usr/lib/kde3
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> lap_dragon: if you are torrenting etc, i suggest you restrict your speed a little if you have other users or want to use other web based stuffs which need speed
[17:46] <blindMoe> anyone know off the top of their head which shell will autocomplete previous commands?  ie:  type 'mys' then hit the up arrow and have it find the last command you typed starting with 'mys' ?
[17:47] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[17:47] <hsr> magnetron: where i should type it?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> blindMoe: could always use: history | grep mys | tail -n 1     ;)
[17:47] <magnetron> hsr: in the same place as the chat text
[17:47] <bcbc2> blindMoe: CTRL+r
[17:47] <majdekalel_> hi guys
[17:47] <Gambit> I have an ubuntu laptop. When I try to install updates with the update manager it unchecks them all during the udate process and doesn't end up installing anything. No errors or anything. Can anyone help?
[17:47] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: What are you running system with? KDE 3 or KDE 4...give me the exact version
[17:47] <majdekalel_> hello
[17:48] <blindMoe> ActionParsnip: hehe I could but I had a server where I could literally just type 'mys' and hit the up arrow and it would search my history for me and autocomplete the string
[17:48] <hsr> "/lastlog hsr"
[17:48] <blindMoe> was great for things like connecting to mysql
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Gambit: can you use http://pastie.org   to give the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     thanks
[17:48] <hsr> magnetron: Sorry, i did it unquote.. no effect
[17:48] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: my system is running ubuntu10.0.4 with Gnome
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> blindMoe: not heard of that myself, you could even script it and replace mys with $1
[17:49] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: What is the KDE version?
[17:49] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: it is kde3
[17:49] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Could you switch to KDE now?
[17:49] <mgolisch> does network sound work for anyone of you? it doenst seem to detect my network pulseaudio daemon
[17:50] <hsr> magnetron: no its not working
[17:50] <systm>  I seem to be having issues with installing nvidia drivers, i seem to keep getting a circular package dependancy issue, with screen-resolution-extra
[17:50] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Are you on KDE now?
[17:50] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: I want to keep GNOME as my user interface. i just need kde to compile this program because it depends on it
[17:50] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Sure
[17:50] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Are you on KDE now?
[17:51] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: what do you mean when you ask If Im on KDE now ?
[17:52] <Naznaz> i still got the same problem with my grub and the link http://linux.aldeby.org/configure-grub2-options-and-background.html has the wrong format, according to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9083191 but I've done all it says there but it still doesnt work, however I've discovered something that does seem strange to me in my /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/jhRDEvvr which seems to set the mono theme even if use_b
[17:52] <Naznaz> g is true?
[17:52] <Gambit> ActionParsnip: Well that seems to be working.
[17:52] <Gambit> Though incredibly slowly.
[17:52] <pgpkeys> you shoulod only need the kde-devel package to build something for kde plus whatever additional -dev pkgs you need for that app
[17:52] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: All rigth. Can you open Amarok now?
[17:52] <Gambit> ~14kbps transfer rate
[17:53] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, you should be installing the 195.36.24 which is the nvidia-current driver
[17:53] <MrKeuner> hi how can I get firefox 4 through package manager?
[17:53] <MrKeuner> beta...
[17:53] <pgpkeys> you dont
[17:53] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Could you open Amarok (if you use it), it will help me know the version
[17:53] <pgpkeys> ubuntu doesn't offer beta versions of the software outside of itself. you have to download that beta seperately. they might or might not have packaged a binary deb of it but i doubt it
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Gambit: cool, then try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install nano
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Gambit: any errors or issues?
[17:54] <pgpkeys> mozilla.org would know
[17:54] <hsr> magnetron: There??
[17:54] <Gambit> ActionParsnip: None so far. It's downloading updates.
[17:54] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: ok...I've re-run the installation for 256.44, just to see if it puts things back.  If not then I'll go rooting around for that driver and install it
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> MrKeuner: firefix 4 is on the mozilla ppa
[17:54] <pgpkeys> is this amarok NOT a package?
[17:54] <pgpkeys> if it is, then apt-cache show amarok
[17:54] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: RIGHT
[17:54] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, that driver is the proper current driver for your card on lucid , just make it clear ...any other new driver probly won't work
[17:54] <pgpkeys> that'll give you all the info including version
[17:55] <icedwater> Anyone using a laptop with the nVidia Geforce 310M?
[17:55] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: I've now finished reinstalling 256.44 and have settings back again
[17:55] <Gambit> Something appears to be wrong with my wifi(completely unrelated) because I've got ~4s lag to my quassel core on the same network... so it'll be a while before I can give you any output or errors.
[17:55] <MrKeuner> ActionParsnip, they have several ppas should I be going with their daily ppa
[17:55] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, NO! the 256 driver is wrong
[17:55] <pgpkeys> if its from source (a custom build from source) usually amarok -v or --version will give you the info
[17:55] <icedwater> I tried installing the nVidia driver using Restricted Drivers but it didn't seem to work out
[17:55] <MrKeuner> ActionParsnip, or is there a slightly more stable way of doing it
[17:55] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: I know, but I wanted a driver installed, so that at least I had nvidia settings back again
[17:55] <mikebeecham> now I want to go grab the driver you mentioned and install that one instead
[17:55] <dominicdinada> where do i look for my hardware keyoard drivers and lspci ?
[17:55] <Naznaz> i still got the same problem with my grub and the link http://linux.aldeby.org/configure-grub2-options-and-background.html has the wrong format, according to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9083191 but I've done all it says there but it still doesnt work, however I've discovered something that does seem strange to me in my /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/jhRDEvvr which seems to set the mono theme even if use_b
[17:56] <Naznaz> g is true?
[17:56] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: would that be a good logic or not?
[17:56] <dominicdinada> errrr the logs
[17:56] <korE_> assume the unassumed
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> MrKeuner: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install firefox-4.0
[17:56] <MrKeuner> ActionParsnip, so go with daily... OK I see
[17:57] <pgpkeys> assuming any assumation whether unassumed or assumed makes an ass out of U and Me :)
[17:57] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, then you have to remove the 256 driver first, the do the tutorial ..but if you think the 256 will work then go for it
[17:57] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Could you tell me the platform version::It is usually of type - Platform Version 4.5.00 (KDE 4.5.0) x.x.xx
[17:57] <pgpkeys> s/assumation/assumption/
[17:57] <dominicdinada> iptables-restore v1.4.4: Couldn't load target `ufw-user-input':/lib/xtables/libipt_ufw-user-input.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> MrKeuner: the command will do it :)
[17:57] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: I am downloading the 195 drivers now...so how would I go about uninstalling the 256 so that I can install 195?
[17:58] <dominicdinada> well dam that there looks like it could cause my headache
[17:58] <dominicdinada> :O
[17:58] <hsr> magnetron: There??
[17:58] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: sorry, was away. Let me try amorok
[17:58] <hsr> magnetron: It worked thanks
[17:59] <dominicdinada> Naznaz: iptables-restore v1.4.4: Couldn't load target `ufw-user-input':/lib/xtables/libipt_ufw-user-input.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:59] <MrKeuner> ActionParsnip, it is not possible to keep firefox 3.6.8 as well?
[17:59] <DesiArnez6> Can anyone help me uninstall google Earth? I already tried the way mentioned in the Ubuntu Help Section on Google Earth. Installed from website bin download
[17:59] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: gnome version 2.30.2 ubuntu version 10.0.4
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> MrKeuner: sure, its a seperate app
[17:59] <KE1HA> mikebeecham, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[17:59] <MrKeuner> ok
[18:00] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: Im not using kde as desktop, not sure if thats creating a confusion
[18:00] <hsr> magnetron: KH1HA: ActionParsnip: Do you have any spamassasin instllation link for a laymen (More simpler one)??
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> MrKeuner: in /usr/bin you will have various binarys to run you many firefoxes, the one named 'firefox' will most likely run 3.6 unless you changed it
[18:00] <dominicdinada> ActionParsnip: : iptables-restore v1.4.4: Couldn't load target `ufw-user-input':/lib/xtables/libipt_ufw-user-input.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> hsr: all i did was websearch dude
[18:00] <MrKeuner> ActionParsnip, apt-get upgrade converted my 3.6.8 to namoroka so I am confused a little bit
[18:00] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, drop to the tty as described in the tutorial and remove the 256 driver , you can't be using the driver while trying to uninstall it , because the driver keeps X running , so you have to drop to the tty in order to stopx then remove the old driver ,and reinstall the 195.]
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> MrKeuner: its just the daily buld of the 3.6
[18:01] <dominicdinada> Can this cause a malfunction with 2 keys on my keyoard?
[18:01] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Do you see Help option in toolbar in Amarok?
[18:01] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: I dont have Amarok
[18:01] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: ok, what is the command to uninstall 256?
[18:01] <abhijit> DesiArnez6, nevigate to the directory where gearth is installed and see is there is any file called uninstall or something
[18:02] <MrKeuner> ActionParsnip, so 3.6.8 is gone? that is fine if that is the case
[18:02] <DesiArnez6> Can anyone help me uninstall google Earth?
[18:02] <abhijit> no
[18:02] <CosmiChaos> hiku, no chance, disabled anything compositing related and set xserver extension compositing to disabled, rebooted and tried again, still black screen with vdpau
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> MrKeuner: no, its still firefox just a different codename
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> MrKeuner: if you install 4.0 then remove the ppa then reinstall firefox 3.6 it will flip back
[18:02] <kanka_23> can someone help me about my installation on laptop please ?
[18:02] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, what was the command you used to install it , just use remove in it's po
[18:03] <BluesKaj> place
[18:03] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: couldn't find it on apt-get install amarok too :-(
[18:03] <mgolisch> can someone help me setup network sound in PA? it just doesnt work for some reason..
[18:03] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Don't do that... wait
[18:03] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: I have a file, which ends in .run.  I just went "sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-254.44.run"
[18:04] <DesiArnez6> kanka_23, What are you trying to install?
[18:04] <KE1HA> DesiArnez6, if you instaled google earth with GoogleEarthLinux.bin then cd~/google-earth then sh uninstall
[18:04] <CosmiChaos> hiku, have you got libvdpau installed by package?
[18:04] <mikebeecham> this started the installtion process
[18:04] <CosmiChaos> hiku, from nvidia ppa?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> CosmiChaos: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[18:04] <DesiArnez6> Can anyone help me uninstall google Earth?
[18:04] <sehaj> hi i am not able to access my mmc in card reader
[18:04] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: "kdedestop --version" - Typr this unquote in terminal
[18:04] <BluesKaj> ok mikebeecham , do you have desktop with 256 driver ?
[18:04] <kanka_23>  DesiArnez6: ubuntu. i know how it works about partittions i did it many times to my pc. but now i have the laptop but i think there is a problem.
[18:04] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: "kdedesktop --version" - Typr this unquote in terminal
[18:04] <CosmiChaos> ActionParsnip, its about black screen and no sound even no playback at VDPAU output
[18:04] <abhijit> DesiArnez6, can you read me?
[18:04] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: yessir
[18:04] <MrKeuner> ActionParsnip, OK I see
[18:05] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: kdekesktop --version kdekesktop: command not found
[18:05] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, what about resolution etc ?
[18:05] <sehaj> any one
[18:05] <shmengie> Wish to upgrade rdesktop in ubuntu.  The source package is way outdated and keyboard support stinks in the current flavor.
[18:05] <sehaj> who can help with mmc card reader
[18:05] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: do i have to install the kdedesktop to compile this application as well ?
[18:05] <dominicdinada> nice that no one will help with faulty packages when it killed my keyoard ^^^ checked the logs and need a hand
[18:06] <kanka_23> i changed smaller the ntfs part but when refresh the page it seems the old values about the parttitons . i mean i can not change it :(
[18:06] <mikebeecham> all seems fine.  I'm rebooting to see if I get the annoying "low graphics mode" issue....I would say that it's gotten back to how it should be...with the exception of the colour banding, which started this whole mess off in the first place
[18:06] <CosmiChaos> hiku, ActionParsnip btw only me-tv shows black screen, when i select VDPAU in mplayer it crashes
[18:06] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: I simply don't understand how you are using KDE... Have you used KDE before?
[18:06] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: grrrr...low graphics mide
[18:06] <mikebeecham> mode
[18:06] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, so you went to the nvidia site for this driver , aka a proprietary driver not available in the repositories/package manager
[18:06] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Can switch user in KDE mode?
[18:07] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: correct mate
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> CosmiChaos: thats all I know dude. sorry
[18:07] <kanka_23>  DesiArnez6: i can not change the size of ntfs part. i use orjinal windows. i always format it from backup.
[18:07] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: let me try that. brb. gotta mail those letters :-)
[18:07] <hsr> abhijit: ??
[18:07] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: you know what...dont worry about this any more...I'm going to have dinner then wipe and reinstall Ubuntu
[18:07] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: thanks for all the help...ttyl
[18:07] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Sure
[18:07] <BluesKaj> did someone recomend it to you , mikebeecham ?
[18:07] <mikebeecham> I would have everything back the way it was already
[18:07] <mweijts> [19:05:10] <blackMatrix_NY> hsr: kdekesktop --version kdekesktop: command not found... that should be kdedestop and not kdekestop
[18:07] <hsr> blackMatrix_NY: Welcome ciao
[18:07] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: nope, I went and looked for the most recent driver package for my card
[18:08] <abhijit> hsr, yes?
[18:08] <shane2peru> what is the first thing to check when localhost/folder in the browser doesn't work any longer?  Seems to have quit working, been a few weeks since I have looked at my localserver stuff, but none the less should work.
[18:08] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: need dinner...be back soon
[18:08] <dominicdinada>  iptables-restore v1.4.4: Couldn't load target `ufw-user-input':/lib/xtables/libipt_ufw-user-input.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ----- 2 keys stopped workin and nothig external happened WTF
[18:08] <shane2peru> I get the forbidden don't have permission error.
[18:08] <hsr> mweijts: kded --version -  Replace kded with any KDE app name, like kdesktop, kicker, konqueror, etc. That command will show you the KDE version, the Qt version used, and the app's version.
[18:08] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, best to stick with recomended drivers by the ubuntu developers
[18:09] <fagel> I use nautilus to connect to a SSH server to browse a folder of files which easily mounts into nautilus. Now the question is can I access that folder outside nautilus (i want to open a file with MatLab without making a local copy).
[18:09] <hsr> abhijit: Did you try restarting in recovery mode?
[18:09] <majdekalel_> oh god its very hot here
[18:09] <trism> fagel: they get mounted to a directory under ~/.gvfs
[18:10] <majdekalel_> is there any aircondition in ubuntu
[18:10] <majdekalel_> ..........
[18:10] <hsr> LOL
[18:10] <shane2peru> ohh, got it, permissions problem. :)  I don't know when that was changed
[18:10] <abhijit> hsr, yes. it was f-spot. i was first time run f-spot and i was importin around 9000 photos. my both cores of cpu are using 89% and ram 80% thats why that problem. now everything is ok. (atleast for now!!!! :D )
[18:10] <shmengie> look under "Applications/Office/Air Conditioning"  if it's not there, then look under ubuntu software center
[18:10] <majdekalel_> i asked this question before and i will post it again
[18:11] <Visine> can you install office 2007 with WINE or do you need crossover?
[18:11] <hansioux> hi, is this the place where i can ask for support information?
[18:11] <hsr> abhijit: All right
[18:11] <majdekalel_> can i do domain controller in ubuntu as that in windows
[18:11] <abhijit> hansioux, yes support for ubuntu.
[18:11] <abhijit> hsr, :)
[18:11] <Oer> abhijeet, why is it a problem ? at least you don't have full 100% cpu load, so i think that sounds good.
[18:11] <majdekalel_> hi guys
[18:11] <KE1HA> majdekalel_, AC for ubuntu: /etc/init.d/fancontrol start  :-)  sri OT I know
[18:12] <dominicdinada> !ot | KE1HA
[18:12] <majdekalel_> or thank you
[18:12] <abhijit> Oer, it IS not problem. it WAS problem. now it solved. thanks for replying.
[18:12] <hansioux> ok, i have a very newbie question.  I am currently running 10.04, do i get auto update for packages in Ubuntu 10.04.1? or do i have to fresh install?
[18:12] <fagel> trism: Look at that. How handy thank you
[18:12] <dominicdinada> !ot | majdekalel_
[18:12] <majdekalel_> so i can make an active directory ?
[18:12] <shmengie> It's a bit of a bugger, but it can be done
[18:13] <majdekalel_> oh yah you mean air-condition
[18:13] <shmengie> I've found samba simple shares work best
[18:13] <majdekalel_> thank man
[18:13] <c3l> how do I reatach a screen if Im logged in with su user?
[18:13] <shmengie> The simpler, the better.
[18:13] <KE1HA> majdekalel_, you need lm-sensors though
[18:13] <majdekalel_> haaaa
[18:13] <majdekalel_> do you have these sensors ?
[18:14] <shmengie> You also need an open drive bay to install the thermostat control
[18:14] <KE1HA> sudo apt-get install lm-sensors :-)
[18:14] <KE1HA> majdekalel_, then run pwmconfig
[18:14] <majdekalel_> its installed
[18:14] <shmengie> I need a little direction
[18:15] <shadowhywind_> Hay all, I just ran dd to clone a harddrive, however fdisk -l shows that 6 of 8 partitions got copied over, but when I open gparted, the entire drive is unallocated without a partition table.. any thoughts?
[18:15] <shmengie> I want rdesktop upgraded to current rdesktop.sourceforge.net flavor
[18:15] <Pamela69> How to automate the sudo command ?
[18:15] <shmengie> any ideas on where to start on that?
[18:15] <shmengie> su
[18:15] <shmengie> sudo su
[18:15] <shmengie> crontab then
[18:16] <Pamela69> for example I want to do cp t.txt /some/folder/
[18:16] <Pamela69> but I need sudo cause the folder are protected
[18:16] <majdekalel_> root@Phonex01:/etc/init.d# fancontrol start
[18:16] <majdekalel_> Loading configuration from /etc/fancontrol ...
[18:16] <majdekalel_> Error: Can't read configuration file
[18:16] <Pamela69> When I do the sudo in console mode and enter the password it work
[18:16] <joofl> Guys how do i remove an item from a panel? It lets me drag an item in but i can't figure out how to remove it
[18:16] <shmengie> if you sudo crontab -e
[18:16] <LjL> Pamela69: and why does it need automating?
[18:16] <shmengie> you get root
[18:16] <shmengie> automated
[18:17] <majdekalel_> whats the problem in this ?
[18:17] <shmengie> but you need to figure out cron
[18:17] <majdekalel_> root@Phonex01:/etc/init.d# fancontrol start
[18:17] <majdekalel_> Loading configuration from /etc/fancontrol ...
[18:17] <majdekalel_> Error: Can't read configuration file
[18:17] <FloodBot3> majdekalel_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:17] <majdekalel_> oh ok sorry
[18:17] <MaximLevitsky> joofl: right click on the item -> remove
[18:17] <JonathanEllis> What email app can has email stationery?
[18:17] <joofl> I don't have that option
[18:17] <hansioux> to remove from panel, right click and click remove from panel, if it's not there, it means you have to close that program
[18:18] <joofl> I'm trying to remove from the admin panel
[18:18] <KE1HA> majdekalel_, hold on, may be diff for Lucid
[18:18] <joofl> system > administration
[18:18] <glassresistor> on the lucid version of netbook remix is there a way to switch from classic to netbook gnome without login/logout
[18:18] <majdekalel_> lucid ?
[18:18] <joofl> Is there a Directory where they are stored?
[18:18] <hansioux> joofl, you mean the main menu?
[18:18] <joofl> Yeah
[18:18] <majdekalel_> so what i have to do now ?
[18:18] <itsux2bu> in top one of the columns is PR.. my task has a PR of 20.. i assume PR is priority.. is that the highest or lowest priority?  how to i make it the highest priority?
[18:18] <joofl> I made a launcher for the nvidia config panel that i no longer need
[18:19] <hansioux> goto system -> preference -> main menu
[18:19] <KE1HA> majdekalel_, the contols / strt / stop etc are diffrent that all : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[18:19] <joofl> ty
[18:19] <giri> how to check the port for my gsm modem ?
[18:19] <IdleOne> joofl: right click on the launcher and remove it
[18:19] <joofl> Thanks hansioux
[18:19] <KE1HA> majdekalel_, provided your motherboard sensors are in the lm-sensor packages, not all of them are.
[18:19] <ale_> Can I help someonw?
[18:20] <ale_> someone*
[18:20] <IdleOne> ale_: you need help or want to help?
[18:20] <giri> how to check the port for my gsm modem ?
[18:20] <majdekalel_> oh ok
 to help
[18:20] <majdekalel_> its ausus motherboard
[18:20] <blink> i got Rhythmbox as a startup application. How can i keep it from being visible on screen in startup?
[18:20] <glassresistor> also anyone know how to make alt-tab show the window and not just the border when switching windows? the is without compiz
[18:20] <IdleOne> ale_: soon as someone asks a question you know the answer to, give them the answer :)
[18:21] <KE1HA> majdekalel_, follow the how too, you need to install, then sensor-detest etc
[18:21] <KE1HA> detect*
[18:21] <glassresistor> ale_: you should help me
[18:21] <ale_> IdleOne, ok thanks
[18:21] <ale_> glassresistor, yes
[18:21] <majdekalel_> KE1HA talk to me at private plz
[18:21] <giri> ale_ : how to check the gsm modem port
[18:21] <jeremyn> how can i tell seahorse that i want to publish a specific gpg key i just created?
[18:22] <ale_> glassresistor, tell me
[18:22] <hsr> magnetron: KH1HA: Do you have any ubuntu wiki profile?
[18:22] <hansioux> I am currently running 10.04, do i get 10.04.1 related update in update manager (or apt-get update)? or do i have to fresh install?
[18:22] <glassresistor> two things would like to be able to switch from nbr to classic gnome without logging off
[18:23] <DesiArnez6> Can anyone help me uninstall google Earth?
[18:23] <hsr> DesiArnez6: What is the setup file format?
[18:23] <ale_> I don't know if you can do it
[18:23] <IdleOne> hansioux: if you have been keeping your install updated you are already @ 10.04.1
[18:23] <glassresistor> and second id like the alt-tab behavior to raise the window its currently switching to and not just bring the borders to the front
[18:23] <hansioux> IdleOne: thanks
[18:23] <hsr> magnetron: KH1HA: Do you have any ubuntu wiki profile?
[18:24] <majdekalel_> oho ok i had downloaded ksensors and its ok
[18:24] <blink> DesiArbez6: try "sudo aptitude uninstall googleearth-package"
[18:24] <maco> glassresistor: dont think you can. kde can switch between netbook/desktop without logging off, but there's nowhere other than the login screen to choose that for gnome
[18:24] <Magnetro> Ehh..
[18:24] <hsr> DesiArnez6: Did you install from synaptic?
[18:24] <glassresistor> maco: you could do it in 8.10 or something but they said it was unstable
[18:24] <DesiArnez6> hsr, I downloaded the .bin file from the official website.
[18:24] <ale_> try t go System>preference>keyboard
[18:24] <glassresistor> getting alt-tab normal would be really nice though
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> glassresistor: i think if you launch the command which launches the NBR interface
[18:25] <ale_> and schoose your # shortcut
[18:25] <jeremyn> i can sync one key already with seahorse, but i created another key and want to publish that but i can't find the option to say "publish this specfiic new key"
[18:25] <hsr> Open a terminal and log in as root or as an administrator
[18:25] <hsr> Read more: How to Uninstall Google Earth on Ubuntu | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_2279483_uninstall-google-earth-ubuntu.html#ixzz0xATygtZ7
[18:26] <blink> could anyone help me with Rhythmbox?
[18:26] <ale_> blink; tell me
[18:26] <glassresistor> blink: problem? describe
[18:26] <giri> thinking to develop an facebook messenger client for ubuntu, Suggest me if the idea is good or not ?
[18:26] <Naznaz> hi, can anyone pls post his or her /etc/grub.d/05_debian-theme? Mine is wrecked
[18:26] <blink> ale_: glassresistor: i got Rhythmbox as a startup application. How can i keep it from being visible on screen in startup?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> giri: there are many around, you could contribute to those
[18:26] <hsr> DesiArnez6: Open a terminal and log in as root or as an administrator
[18:26] <hsr> Read more: How to Uninstall Google Earth on Ubuntu | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_2279483_uninstall-google-earth-ubuntu.html#ixzz0xATygtZ7
[18:26] <franki> Hallo, nutze 10.04 mit xfce , habe zwei monitore und möchte dualscreens  wallpaper einsetzen. Aber wie  bzw. womit ?
[18:26] <ChogyDan> Naznaz: http://pastebin.com/5nBic4uM
[18:26] <glassresistor> blink: um idk do you want it as a server?
[18:27] <Naznaz> ChogyDan, thanks
[18:27] <blink> ale_: glassresistor: already unchecked "visible" from gconf but didnt work
[18:27] <hsr> DesiArnez6: i hope that helps
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> blink: you could use devilspie to make it run minimised, or use alltray
[18:27] <glassresistor> where are the alt-tab settings? or what program do it?
[18:27] <blink> ale_: glassresistor: I just want it to load on tray
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> glassresistor: if you use compiz, it is configured in CCSM
[18:27] <glassresistor> blink: hum look at the man rhythembox or rythembox --help
[18:28] <DesiArnez6> hsr, ok, terminal is open. I will look at the ehow link now
[18:28] <glassresistor> ActionParsnip: no compiz on a netbook
[18:28] <blink> glassresistor: couldn't find anything
[18:28] <glassresistor> idk whys not doing the normal behaviour
[18:28] <hansioux> to the rhythmbox startup minimized question, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-start-rhythmbox-0-9-6-minimized-511601/
[18:28] <giri> ActionParsnip: ya there are many but, i am also thinking to integrate the functions like facebook user parsing, for example, if the user puts the group id it scans all the details of that group and give the output in specific formates and many more features like profile editing and password changing and all other what every u can do in facebook,
[18:28] <Gambit> ActionParsnip: Well everything worked error free. Hopefully that means the GUI update manager will work next time.
[18:28] <Gambit> ActionParsnip: But if not, at least now I know how to do it via terminal.
[18:28] <hsr> magnetron: ???????????/
[18:28] <ale_> blink; you want it isn't open whene you insert a disk?
[18:28] <Gambit> ActionParsnip: Thank you so much!
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Gambit: yeah, should be fine
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Gambit: no worries duder
[18:29] <blink> ale_: when my system boots up, i have it set as a startup application. along with xchat and empathy. everything is minimized beside rhythmbox
[18:30] <hsr> magnetron:
[18:30] <blink> ale_: i cant even do that through terminal neither. not clearly minimized. rather close since when it launches it will be on tray first.
[18:31] <jimcooncat> in the cli, how do I delete all files in a directory dated before 2010-08-01?
[18:31] <glassresistor> so im assuming metacity handles alt-tab for gnome if there isn't compiz
[18:32] <glassresistor> looking around gconf but don't see anything obvious like hide windows X
[18:32] <hansioux> blink: Within the Configuration Editor, navigate to apps > rhythmbox > plugins > status-icon, then uncheck the "window-visible" box and close the Editor.
[18:33] <maco> jimcooncat: access time or modified time?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> jimcooncat: I'd ask in #bash if nobody replys. They have mad skills
[18:33] <blink> hansioux: done that and didnt work
[18:33] <jimcooncat> maco, I'd guess modified time. Actually created time
[18:33] <blink> lemme restart and see how it goes. be back in a second.
[18:34] <maco> jimcooncat: hmm find doesnt have an option for creation time
[18:34] <jimcooncat> maco, I'd guess modified time, then. I can see it with ls -al
[18:35] <blinkyb> still the same ppl
[18:36] <maco> jimcooncat: find . -mtime +19 -exec rm {} +
[18:36] <maco> jimcooncat:  i think
[18:36]  * jimcooncat bows to the mighty maco and says thanks!
[18:36] <maco> jimcooncat: thatd delete all files in the current directory and downward modified most recently more than 20 days ago
[18:36] <blink> hansioux: nothing changed. still pops up
[18:36] <hiku> maco: jimcooncat try find . -mtime +19 -exec rm {} \;
[18:37] <jimcooncat> maco, that just might save my apt-cacher. thank you too hiku
[18:37] <hiku> jimcooncat: your very welcome
[18:37] <hansioux> blink: can you minimize it once it is up?
[18:37] <Rou> some one here can help me with ubuntu
[18:37] <hiku> !ask > Rou
[18:38] <blink> hansioux: manually, yes. but i want to prevent it from being on screen. since it runs automatically on startup.
[18:38] <Rou> im having a problem with eggdrop
[18:38] <abhijit> !details | Rou
[18:38] <Rou> when i ./eggdrop -m eggdrop.conf
[18:38] <Rou> its an error occured
[18:38] <hiku> Rou: try #eggdrop
[18:39] <IdleOne> Rou: what is the error?
[18:39] <Rou> i restart my server
[18:40]  * Rou as a root .. when trying to ./eggdrop -m
[18:40] <Rou> the error is invalid command when loading
[18:40] <IdleOne> Rou: you need to more specific with the errors you are getting
[18:40] <hiku> Rou: can you pastebin your eggdrop.conf file
[18:40] <TheSmoke> hi all. when using terminal in gentoo, if i type something and press "page up" key, it completes but there's no such feature in ubuntu. how can i make it work like that?
[18:40] <maco> TheSmoke: tab key
[18:41] <Rou> wait
[18:41] <maco> TheSmoke: you need the bash-completion package too, since upstream bash no longer maintains tab completion themselves
[18:41] <abhijit> !tab | TheSmoke
[18:41] <maco> TheSmoke: are you used to ksh by chance? i know it uses something other than tab...
[18:42] <hansioux> blink: i can't find an answer, currently rhythm box starts minimized to tray.  if your rhythm box is up to date then i don't have the solution sorry
[18:42] <glassresistor> still can't figure out how to make alt-tab bring the window its currently on to the front while im switching
[18:42] <bcbc2> TheSmoke: look in /etc/inputrc - you have to uncomment a couple of lines
[18:43] <bcbc2> TheSmoke: or use CTRL+r
[18:43] <blink> hansioux: i dunno whats wrong with this, since i made everything but still. anyway thanks for your help bro.
[18:43] <maco> bcbc2: ctrl+r????
[18:44] <maco> bcbc2: thats for searching through history...
[18:44] <IceD^> hello
[18:44] <ascheel> Is there a way to make Ubuntu mount USB drives with full read capability instead of only readable by the person that plugs it in?
[18:44] <bcbc2> maco: my bad
[18:44] <IceD^> I have ububtu on my wife's laptop
[18:44] <TheSmoke> bcbc2: i'm using ctrl+r but page up is a lot easier :)
[18:45] <IceD^> today wifi (NM) stopped working
[18:45] <abhijit> !details | IceD^
[18:45] <IceD^> just in the middle of the day
[18:45] <IceD^> ok
[18:45] <bcbc2> maco: or maybe not.//
[18:45] <TheSmoke> for example i have written "paster serve --reload development.ini" in my terminal
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> IceD^: please dont use enter as punctuation, use the entire width of the input box
[18:45] <TheSmoke> some time later i want to use it again and i type "paster" and press "page up"  and it automatically brings me "serve --reload development.ini" part
[18:46] <ascheel> Is there a way to make Ubuntu mount USB drives with full read capability instead of only readable by the person that plugs it in?  Reposted the question to specify the external USB drive is vfat
[18:46] <TheSmoke> maco: yay!! it's in /etc/inputrc
[18:46] <edbian> ascheel, How does the system know who plugged it in?
[18:47] <ascheel> edbian: the person logged in at the time.
[18:47] <dot-slaSh> Hey guys, I'm interested in performing some network data transfer and speed tests, can anyone recommend some tools or ideas of how to obtain speed metrics to show management? I really only know of running '$ time {sftp|ftp|svn|git}' commands to show time of transfer downloads. Any thoughts/ideas?
[18:47] <dot-slaSh> I'd like to show transfers with time/speed/bandwidth metrics for things like downloading from a central server from across our global WAN.
[18:47] <IceD^> I got ubuntu 9.10, worked fine last months, today NM stopped working (no icon), when I do /etc/init.d/network-manager restart icon appears, wireless shows as unmanaged, nothing helpful in logs -- (wlan0): supplicant manager state: down -> idle, no updates were installed last weeks, iwconfig shows interface
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> ascheel: you can add the item to /etc/fstab to specify mount options
[18:47] <ascheel> dot-slaSh: I recommend 'iftop -f tcp -B' and 'bmon'
[18:47] <dot-slaSh> ascheel: thanks I'll check those out.
[18:47] <IceD^> oops, it's 10.04 LTS, not 9.10, sorry
[18:47] <Rou> IdleOne
[18:48] <ascheel> ActionParsnip: this is using the automount stuff with Ubuntu.  Can you specify the mount perms with that?
[18:48] <edbian> ascheel, I'm not sure how multiple users mounting the same fs works but I also suggest you create an /etc/fstab entry and throw in the user,rw   options
[18:48] <IdleOne> Rou: yes?
[18:48] <maco> IceD^: look in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf  and check that it has managed=true
[18:48] <hansioux> blink: if you are still there
[18:48] <blink> hansioux: what?
[18:48] <ascheel> ActionParsnip: I meant, can you specify the mount perms in fstab to be ready by gnome's automount?
[18:48] <hansioux> blink: goto your startup application menu, and change the command of rhythmbox to rhythmbox-client --hide
[18:48] <maco> IceD^: i usually have this happen if i have an improper shutdown
[18:48] <IceD^> maco, managed: false
[18:48] <edbian> ascheel, You specify the mount perms using /etc/fstab.  Usually it follows the permissions of the folder it was mounted into if that filesystem doesn't have user permissions
[18:48] <IceD^> ty
[18:49] <maco> IceD^: make it true then restart NM
[18:49] <ascheel> edbian: but that will only affect this one drive, and while that's not a big deal to do that with this drive, ultimately I'd like it to work with any vfat drive I plug in
[18:49] <maco> IceD^: there may be a nm-system-settings process you have to kill too.... not sure
[18:49] <maco> IceD^: i usually make it true then reboot
[18:49] <IceD^> maco, I told "ty" already - means it worked :))
[18:49] <maco> IceD^: heh ok
[18:49] <dot-slaSh> ascheel: btw, you should always edit your fstab file then test test test with 'mount -a' I only bring this up because yesterday I spent all day trying to troubleshoot a VM hosted machine not booting because I mucked up fstab. Got it resolve after hours... =/
[18:50] <edbian> ascheel, Then you want to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/<something>  I'm not as familiar with that.
[18:50] <ascheel> edbian, thank you.  :)
[18:50] <blink> hansioux: the command is set on "rhythmbox %U". whats that variable suppose to be? do i keep it as is or remove it?
[18:51] <edbian> ascheel, Yep. Good luck!  I tried to add a file into that rule to auto sync a music player and I got frustrated and gave up.
[18:51] <edbian> ascheel, :)
[18:51] <edbian> blink, Most likely that's rhythmbox's way of saying open this file with rhythmbox
[18:51] <ascheel> edbian: not sure if it will apply as it's Gnome that's mounting it in user space and not the kernel
[18:51] <Oliver_> is the sound better in Windows then Ubuntu?
[18:52] <edbian> ascheel, I think gnome reads the rules in those files.
[18:52] <ascheel> edbian: thanks again.  :)
[18:52] <edbian> ascheel, As I said thought I got frustrated so it's possible I'm wrong.
[18:52] <edbian> ascheel, Good luck!
[18:52] <ascheel> edbian: It's a better starting point than where I was at!
[18:52] <edbian> Oliver_, Are you asking the community or a specific person?
[18:52] <blink> hansioux: nothing changed. still the same.
[18:52] <edbian> ascheel, :D
[18:52] <abhijit> do i need to samba installed in order to create ad hoc network between win 7 and my ubuntu?
[18:52] <edbian> abhijit, Yes.
[18:52] <Oliver_> edbian: the community
[18:53] <abhijit> edbian, ok
[18:53] <edbian> Oliver_, Sound is the same if not better on Ubuntu.
[18:53] <edbian> abhijit, For file transfers and such.  General TCP/IP is platform independent.
[18:53] <cmpsalvestrini> abhijit: yes, smaba is always needed to interop Windows and linux in a networky way
[18:53] <ascheel> Oliver_: The sound on all of my Ubuntu machine sounds the same as it does in Windows for me.  Still sucks on my eee and still sounds awesome on my desktop.
[18:54] <Oliver_> edbian: alright, thx. but in spotify i feel the sound better in windows? is that because i run it in wine?
[18:54] <ascheel> cmpsalvestrini and edbian, samba isn't needed to run an adhoc network between them, only to actually use Windows' File and Print sharing.  If you use another protocol, samba is not needed
[18:54] <edbian> Oliver_, Probably.
[18:54] <abhijit> cmpsalvestrini, edbian i need to do all transer all types of file between that ad hoc net work
[18:54] <jimcooncat> well, my apt-cacher is hosed from using it for both Debian and Ubuntu. Does anyone have a better alternative?
[18:54] <aeon-ltd> Oliver_:it might just b mixer settings are different
[18:54] <edbian> abhijit, You need samba.
[18:54] <ascheel> Oliver_: Wine is NOT windows.  It's a good replacement of it, but it is NOT windows, so do not expect it to perform as Windows would
[18:54] <abhijit> edbian, ok
[18:54] <cmpsalvestrini> Oliver_: linux sound support has come a long way
[18:54] <Oliver_> edbian: thx
[18:55] <ascheel> abhijit: yes, samba is what you'll want to use.
[18:55] <edbian> Oliver_, Yep.
[18:55] <toter> I came here around two days ago asking about the new ubuntu font... that no one seems to have and it is impossible to download
[18:55] <abhijit> ascheel, yah
[18:55] <Pici> toter: Its not released publicly yet.
[18:55] <ascheel> toter: I have it.  It downloaded in an update.
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> ascheel: if it's in fstab it will override gnome's nonesense
[18:55] <abhijit> now basic question :)
[18:55] <toter> Pici: I got the font!
[18:55] <ascheel> ActionParsnip: yeah, but that has to be done on a per-drive basis.  Oh well
[18:55] <Pici> toter: oh.
[18:55] <Oliver_> ascheel: ok :)
[18:55] <Pici> toter: Maybe I missed the release then ;)
[18:56] <cmpsalvestrini> abhijit: then you really need samba
[18:56] <abhijit> how to install samba? i am now installing a thing called Samba and SMB/CIFS from software center. is that enough?
[18:56] <abhijit> cmpsalvestrini, ^^
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> ascheel: no, on a per-partition basis. You dont mount drives
[18:56] <toter> Pici: It hasn't been released yet
[18:56] <Oliver_> someone that knows when spotify in linux will be released?
[18:56] <ascheel> ActionParsnip: point ntaken
[18:56] <ascheel> edbian: /lib/udev/rules.d    <--- take a peak instead of /etc
[18:56] <toter> Pici: Finally... It's such a bureaucracy to get the font... You must be a Ubuntu Member and blah blah blah... Geez, it's just a font!
[18:56] <toter> I finally found it
[18:57] <Pici> toter: Its still being tested.
[18:57] <cmpsalvestrini> abhijit: I believe those are the packages you seek, you should read up at ubuntuforums how to configure samba to your needs.
[18:57] <edbian> ascheel, Those appear to be binary programs?
[18:57] <abhijit> cmpsalvestrini, yah sure i wll.
[18:57] <toter> Pici: I know... But why forbid us to download? I don't understand... Anyway... I got the font
[18:57] <cmpsalvestrini> toter: where didja find that font
[18:57] <ascheel> edbian: not on mine.  scripts the same as /etc/udev/.... but far more examples.
[18:58] <toter> Even though I am not supposed to have
[18:58] <toter> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1691694/UbuntuBetaNEW.ttf
[18:58] <Pici> toter: Please don't paste that here.
[18:58] <edbian> ascheel, Perhaps that's because I'm using Debian and you're using Ubuntu.  Ha ha.  Don't tell the ops though!
[18:58] <toter> Pici: I already did
[18:58] <toter> LOL
[18:58] <ascheel> that's not LOL, toter.
[18:58] <ascheel> edbian: I think that's a capital offense, no?
[18:59] <toter> i am so sorry... ops... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1691694/UbuntuBetaNEW.ttf
[18:59] <edbian> ascheel, Sometimes people act like it :)
[18:59] <Laban> Hi! Got some problems with audio in 10.04 using HDMI. Anyone care to take a peek? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/121230
[18:59] <cmpsalvestrini> edbian: debian and ubuntu are copacetic AFAIK...
[18:59] <edbian> cmpsalvestrini, copacetic   ??
[18:59] <hansioux> blink: rhythmbox-client --hide works for me in the terminal, so i don't know why it isn't working for you.  hope you find the answer
[18:59] <ascheel> Pici: o/
[18:59] <cmpsalvestrini> adbian: as in, friendly, since ubuntu is based on debian
[18:59] <ascheel> denied...  leavin' me hangin
[18:59] <cmpsalvestrini> edbian: as in, friendly, since ubuntu is based on debian
[19:00] <Spiffydude> Hello All, I am making a thin client media box using an NVidia Ion N330 board. I am using a 4GB class 6 USB drive for  permanent storage. What would be the best way to partion/format?
[19:00] <blink> hansioux: maybe because i am running many applications on startup.
[19:00] <edbian> cmpsalvestrini, I don't know what copacetic means.
[19:00] <jimcooncat> edbian: it's more fun when ubuntu users start asking q's in #debian
[19:00] <edbian> cmpsalvestrini, Thank you for the friendliness though! :)
[19:00] <edbian> jimcooncat, The people in #debian don't have as much patience as the people here do :)
[19:01] <spirosvii> kalhspera
[19:01] <hansioux> blink: close your running rhythmbox and try that command in the terminal, if it works, it should also work at startup when you change the command for rhythmbox in the starup application menu
[19:01] <delirus> can anyone here give me examples of how to use sfdisk?  the documentation is over my head....
[19:01] <delirus> (and I can't use cfdisk or fdisk)
[19:01] <cmpsalvestrini> adbian: it's lingo for A-OK
[19:01] <cmpsalvestrini> edbian: it's lingo for A-OK
[19:01] <edbian> delirus, What about gparted?  It's very very easy.
[19:01] <blink> hansioux: tried that. yeah it is working fine. it only screws up with system boots
[19:02] <edbian> cmpsalvestrini, Thank you.  I see. :)
[19:02] <delirus> edbian:  I'm probably in the wrong place.  But I'm trying to repartition my phone, and it just has sfdisk.  I hear people say cfdisk and fdisk won't round things out properly on this device.
[19:02] <almoxarife> http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/sorting-algorithms-quite-boring-until-you-add-sound-effects-20100819/
[19:03] <almoxarife> sorry
[19:03] <edbian> delirus, Hardcore!  I think someone will help you.  Technically not Ubuntu but the same program would have gotten help if being run on an Ubuntu system.  Maybe just don't tell people and they won't ask.
[19:03] <Spiffydude> lol Good Link
[19:03] <cmpsalvestrini> Spiffydude: There is a page over at the DNA Lounge website that explains how to make what you want to do. Seems to be a hellishly complicated affair however.
[19:03] <Spiffydude> Anyone have an Idea for my question?
[19:04] <Spiffydude> ah
[19:04] <delirus> edbian:  hehe.  I'm doing and ssh *from* ubuntu, if that helps
[19:04] <cmpsalvestrini> Spiffydude: for reference, this is the link: http://www.dnalounge.com/backstage/src/kiosk/
[19:04] <edbian> delirus, Ha!  :)
[19:04] <Spiffydude> I've made thin clients on hard drives. I just want understand what the main difference if any is in using a flash drive
[19:04] <Spiffydude> will check it out
[19:04] <cmpsalvestrini> Small OT: DNA Lounge's owner was part of the original Mozilla dev team
[19:05] <edbian> delirus, BTW I have no idea how to use sfdisk :P
[19:05] <delirus> edbian:  I gathered,  but thanks anyway 8)
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Spiffydude: one uses a flash based storage locally, the other uses a spindle based storage locally. To the OS there is no difference, it simply sees a block device. The kernel handles the access
[19:06] <charley__> hi, I have this strange problem: i just installed xldm desktop in my lap, and when i rebooted and loged into that desktop the windows are like if i was doing alt+tab constantly. The focus siwtches between windows and desktop.
[19:06] <Spiffydude> Gotcha, my main question was just understanding if they should be formatted any differently than a standard drive
[19:07] <jimcooncat> Spiffydude: What are you storing on it? The whole os, or just your /home?
[19:07] <Naznaz> hi, my grub background is still not displayed although update-grub tells me the image was found
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Spiffydude: ext2 instead of ext3 or 4 will make them last longer
[19:07] <charley__> it looks like if i was switching between work areas nonstop
[19:07] <charley__> and i cant work like that D:
[19:07] <charley__> any ideas what it might be?
[19:07] <abhijit> charley__, do you mean lxde?
[19:07] <Spiffydude> OS, enough to boot into gnome and display boxee or mythtv frontend
[19:07] <blackstar> hello people, anyone knows how to use magic jack un ubuntu?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> charley__: if you log out and into Gnome, is it ok
[19:08] <delac> can't reconnect my 3G connection after manual disconnect. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:08] <charley__> ActionParsnip, its normal at start, but then i does the same
[19:08] <jimcooncat> Spiffydude: that doesn't sound too thin to me.
[19:08] <Alonea> hi, I am trying to download everything in this folder with wget, but I am a little confused on how it works. http://www.cs.rit.edu/~sps/Courses/CS4/Lecture/
[19:08] <charley__> in Gnome im able to see a 'new window' terminal like, thats flashing
[19:08] <charley__> like opening and closing
[19:08] <edbian> Alonea, Just give it the recursive flag no?
[19:09] <mgolisch> how do is disable pulseaudio? trying to run it with -vv but its auto respawned by something so it doesnt work
[19:09] <Alonea> edbian: I did, but it just went up the directory instead of down
[19:09] <Naznaz> hi, my grub background is still not displayed although update-grub tells me the image was found, any idea why?
[19:09] <edbian> Alonea, did not.
[19:09] <edbian> Alonea, Really?
[19:09] <charley__> ActionParsnip, any ideas?
[19:09] <IdleOne> delac: can you please part #ubuntu-ops if there is nothing else we can help you with
[19:09] <abhijit> Naznaz, what is the format of the image/
[19:09] <blackstar_> hello, any know's how to make MagicJack run under linux?
[19:09] <Naznaz> abhijit, .tga
[19:09] <sergio__> salve
[19:09] <winmutt> my ati dualhead has stopped worjung can someone look at http://pastebin.com/AdQkSSn1
[19:09] <sergio__> !list
[19:09] <abhijit> Naznaz, listen.
[19:10] <IdleOne> delac: thank you :)
[19:10] <Alonea> edbian: I am not sure what I am doing wrong. i did wget -r http://www.cs.rit.edu/~sps/Courses/CS4/Lecture/
[19:10] <Spiffydude> Thin in the sense that no media will be stored locally all streamed and I was going to remove any other unneccesary programs and boot programs. Pretty much an X session, could be xfce now that I think about it. And run a media client
[19:10] <unsuprise> exit
[19:10] <abhijit> Naznaz, some time ago when i try to do the same, then after some experimenting i found that it only allows some limited image type only. not all. and i guess .tga is not supportd. try with .png or .jpg
[19:10] <edbian> Alonea, The man page says -r is recursive.  Try wget --recursive <file>  instead??
[19:10] <Spiffydude> But you answered my main question in that I need ext2 instead one of the newer ones.
[19:11] <edbian> Or just quit
[19:11] <edbian> god
[19:11] <earthmeLon> Is there a place where you can see what updates have been put into each kernel version.  I'd like to see what updates im getting by upgrading kernels
[19:11] <Naznaz> abhijit, okay, I'll try but the 05_debian-theme says .tga works, too. And the images downloaded by apt-get install grub2-splashimages are also .tga, but I'll give it a try. brb
[19:11] <sergio__> !list
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> charley__: so in gnome its the same?
[19:12] <ChogyDan> earthmeLon: aptitude changelog <kernel>
[19:12] <earthmeLon> thanks ChogyDan
[19:12] <charley__> ActionParsnip, not exactly the same, but after a while its starts doing the same thing yes.
[19:13] <earthmeLon> ChogyDan, aptitude changelog 2.6.32.24 and 2.6.32.24-generic and <kernel> all don't work
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> charley__: ok then shutdown the pc and press every key a few times, they may be stuck down
[19:14] <ChogyDan> earthmeLon: you have to use the package name, ie, linux-image-2.6.32-24-generic
[19:14] <charley__> ActionParsnip, already tried that a couple of times.
[19:14] <edbian> charley__, Try a different keyboard?
[19:15] <earthmeLon> Thanks ChogyDan.  I googled kernel changelog instead of kernel patch notes and got better results.  ty ty
[19:15] <Alonea> edbian: ok, sorry, ubuntu...crashed?
[19:15] <charley__> edbian, its a laptop
[19:15] <edbian> Alonea, That's ok
[19:15] <edbian> Alonea, What were we talking about?
[19:15] <Alonea> edbian: wget
[19:16] <edbian> Alonea, ah right.  Try wget --recursive <file>  instead of -r
[19:17] <charley__> any other ideas anyone?
[19:18] <Alonea> edbian: same as before, it won't go inside any of those folders
[19:18] <c3l> can you get past this message without getting adobe reader? "Please wait... ...your PDF viewer may not be able to disply this type of document.... upgrate lates adobe reader.. blabla" I dont want proprietary software!
[19:18] <edbian> Alonea, What does it do?  Go the wrong direction?
[19:18] <zeltak> hya guys..was wondering if someone could help me with ssh issues..login is ok but when using ssh (for example now in irc) its really laggy and slow..anyone have any idea whats casing this?
[19:19] <ilovefairuz> c3l: use evince
[19:19] <edbian> Alonea, I see.  It's doing the same for me.
[19:20] <Alonea> edbian: ok, at least I am not crazy then. and I could have sworn I did this before when I actually took this class last year
[19:20] <edbian> Alonea, ha ha.  I'm thinking maybe they're links or something?
[19:20] <c3l> ilovefairuz: thanks
[19:20] <ilovefairuz> zeltak: try using the -C option for compressing data
[19:20] <zeltak> ok ilovefairuz will do thx
[19:21] <Alonea> edbian: dont think so. Look at the link in a browser
[19:21] <edbian> Alonea, Yeah I'm trying to figure it out.
[19:22] <delac> can't reconnect my 3G connection after manual disconnect. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:22] <rvn> hey, how do i connect to an smb share from nautilus? I tried to do smb:/// and smb:/, both failed due to not being able to retrieve a list of servers. i then tried both with a server's name explicitly, failed to retrieve list of shares
[19:22] <rvn> some of the servers are winxp, the one i want to access is win7
[19:23] <lanos> opa!
[19:23] <lanos> alguem sabe bem como instalar uma impressora no linux?
[19:23] <zeltak> ilovefairuz: still very laggy and slow...i have a N routre dont get it...
[19:23] <almoxarife> rvn: on the win machine, does the folder you want to see elsewhere already show on the network?
[19:23] <Karen_m> this channel is leet
[19:24] <rvn> almoxarife, i'd like to connect to C$, actually
[19:24] <rvn> almoxarife, in which case it wouldn't/shouldn't
[19:24] <almoxarife> lanos: usa #ubuntu.pt
[19:24] <Karen_m> we had 1337 people, back down to 1336
[19:24] <rvn> heh
[19:24] <Karen_m> one more and we're leet again
[19:24] <nitrogoldfish> w00t.
[19:24] <cmpsalvestrini> heh
[19:24] <mmaksimov> rvn, don't know about win7, but in XP C$ may not be available
[19:24] <nitrogoldfish> damn, overshot.
[19:24] <Pici> !ot
[19:25] <lanos> alguem sabe instalar impressora no ubuntu?
[19:25] <rvn> mmaksimov, it's always available on every NT-based windows, it's hidden to windows comps by defaul
[19:25] <Pici> !br | lanos
[19:25] <rvn> t
[19:25] <almoxarife> rvn: you need to first insure that the folder on the win machine is setup as shared,
[19:25] <rvn> almoxarife, it's always shared on every nt-based machine unless explicitly unshared
[19:25] <lanos> a blz
[19:26] <c3l> ilovefairuz: I still cant get past the message, using evince
[19:26] <rvn> almoxarife, it requires login tho, which i dunno how to do via nautilus
[19:26] <mmaksimov> rvn, no you have to uncheck "use simple file-sharing something..." under Tools->Options in explorer to make it available.
[19:26] <trism> Alonea: it is a problem with their robots.txt, they disallow /~ so everything under there won't be automatically fetched by wget since it respects robots.txt (except index.html since you specifically asked for that)
[19:26] <rvn> almoxarife, does smb:/user:password@server/share work?
[19:26] <ilovefairuz> c3l: where do you see the message?
[19:26] <straterra> Hmm..whats the easiest way to install Broadcom STA on 10.04?
[19:26] <Alonea> trism: ah. any way around it or no?
[19:26] <rvn> mmaksimov, that option is only available under xp, and it's available even while checked anyway
[19:26] <redLAW> Hi to all. I have problem with the pppd demon . I can get to VPN to my VPS in USA. This is log from system http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/V4ktRMm6 Anybody kind to help
[19:26] <abhijit> !broadcom | straterra
[19:27] <c3l> ilovefairuz: its instead of the content, well it is the content
[19:27] <ilovefairuz> c3l: in a browser?
[19:28] <mmaksimov> rvn, I just know I had problems connecting to C$ via smb, and unchecking that simple-sharing thing solved it
[19:28] <almoxarife> rvn: the easy way to share and see shares on ubuntu is to right click on a folder (pick one) and set it to share, if you are asked to install packages, do, then see if your nt/folders are visible, at a min you should see the login for the nt machine if you were to click on one of the nt/folders
[19:28] <rvn> that's not available under win7.. perhaps linux requires a public share to be available in order to produce a list instead of enumerating like windows can
[19:28] <edbian> Alonea, I'm thinking about this.  Imagine if you did wget -r www.yahoo.com.  And the recursive went down.  They we wanted it to.  When would it end?  Ever?  You'd have a wget of the entire internet probably.  It makes more sense to go up.  We're getting confused because this particular website is a file tree.  Not a web like the rest of the internet.
[19:28] <c3l> ilovefairuz: in the pdf viewer, evince
[19:28] <ilovefairuz> c3l: take a screeenshot
[19:28] <almoxarife> rvn: that would be a folder on the ubuntu side
[19:29] <Alonea> edbian: wget has a layer limit of 5 unless you specify more
[19:29] <edbian> Alonea, Is that so.
[19:29] <mmaksimov> rvn, did you try smb://<ip-address>?
[19:29] <edbian> Alonea, Did you try chaning it?
[19:29] <rvn> mmaksimov, no i didnt
[19:29] <Alonea> edbian: yes. I did. and I think trism hit it. its robots.txt
[19:30] <edbian> Alonea, Look at -np option
[19:30] <mmaksimov> rvn, try then ;)
[19:30] <cached> Say i have access to N machines, and I have N tasks to run. Is there a good way of distributing all of those tasks?
[19:30] <Alonea> edbian: tried that too. I think they added something to block wget
[19:30] <delirus> anyone have tips on using sfdisk?
[19:30] <redLAW> Hi to all. I have problem with the pppd demon . I can get to VPN to my VPS in USA. This is log from system http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/V4ktRMm6 Anybody kind to help
[19:30] <edbian> Alonea, RIT added something?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> cached: you can ssh onto each one and launch a task for each
[19:31] <mintux> I need a calendar software with alarm that alert on special date and time I defined . what software can I use ?
[19:31] <cached> ActionParsnip: if i have the list of commands and the list of servers in text files, is there any way to do it without requiring O(n) work on my part?
[19:31] <Alonea> edbian: maybe. I don't quite get what trism was talking about. they did update the system this year. I do see the robots.txt file though
[19:31] <nitrogoldfish> mintux: cron? :)
[19:31] <cached> ActionParsnip: well, technically Omega(N)
[19:31] <it-hero> does anyone know a good monitoring app similiar to conky or gkrellm that i can use to monitor remote servers
[19:32] <mintux> nitrogoldfish: does it has gui ?
[19:32] <rvn> doesn't work by ip either
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> cached: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DistributedComputing
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> it-hero: snmp :)
[19:32] <it-hero> ya i thought of that
[19:32] <cached> ActionParsnip: i was hoping i wouldn't have to go that route, since these are all one-time scripts. oh well, i might as well just write my own distributor
[19:33] <nitrogoldfish> mintux: no : (
[19:33] <it-hero> and also cacti and nagios
[19:33] <c3l> ilovefairuz: http://img5.imageshack.us/i/201008202030401278x1006.png/ actual pdf is at http://polisen.se/Global/www%20och%20Intrapolis/Blanketter/Pass/RPS_531.2_pass_underarig.pdf
[19:33] <mmaksimov> rvn, is that machine's share accessible from other windows machines?
[19:33] <nitrogoldfish> mintux: at least not that i know of
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> cached: there are distros made for it
[19:33] <mintux> hmm
[19:33] <trism> Alonea: if you run the recursive wget with -d (for debug) you will see wget reject the files based on robots.txt, so it is definitely that
[19:33] <Peeteer> Hi everyone!
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> cached: one pc acts as the head adnd the others join
[19:33] <rvn> mmaksimov, on any other windows machine i can authenticate using net share to the generic IPC and then access any folder on the machine via SMB syntax
[19:33] <edbian> Alonea, I'm not sure!  I'm trying a bunch of different sites.  Appears none of them will download recursively like we want.  I'm doing things like: wget --recursive -np www.yahoo.com    or debian.net
[19:33] <mek||malloc> Is there a reason the ubuntu website has the 64 bit edition flagged as, "Not recommended for daily desktop usage"
[19:33] <umc> hey guys. I installed ubuntu today, over a mandriva install, but kept my /home partition, including my .ssh folder, but now when I try to ssh into another box, I get "Permission denied (publickey, keyboard-interactive)" any idea why it doesn't use the keys from ~/.ssh ?
[19:34] <trism> Alonea: as for workarounds, I would use a bit of python and wget to grab the files, but may be more work than just manually grabbing them
[19:34] <cached> ActionParsnip: i don't think a distro is what i'm looking for. all i really want is one machine to go through the list, ssh into the other machine, run the command, and download the results it gets. shouldn't be too hard to write.
[19:34] <Peeteer> Wow, i see many questions here, i wonder what are the chances mine will be answered
[19:34] <edbian> Alonea, Yeah.
[19:34] <mek||malloc> umc: You probably just need to clear your ~/.ssh /know_hosts file
[19:34] <cached> ActionParsnip: (doing that for each machine)
[19:34] <abhijit> !ask | Peeteer
[19:34] <Alonea> trism, edbian: GOT IT. wget -e robots=off --wait 1 http://your.site.here
[19:35] <edbian> trism, Do you think something in robots.txt is blocking wget from retrieving the entire thing?
[19:35] <edbian> Alonea, Nice
[19:35] <umc> mek||malloc: thanks for the tip, I'll try that too
[19:35] <Peeteer> okay, thank you :)
[19:35] <berkay_> Hey
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> cached: there is a distro where each cpu command eis sent to a different pc rather than a bulk task afaik
[19:35] <trism> Alonea: ahh didn't know you could do that, excellent
[19:35] <cached> ActionParsnip: that's a bit overkill for my situation, but thanks anyway =)
[19:35] <mek||malloc> Someone care to comment? Is there a reason the ubuntu website has the 64 bit edition flagged as, "Not recommended for daily desktop usage"
[19:35] <edbian> Alonea, Do you need the wait?
[19:36] <cached> mek||malloc: increased RAM usage maybe?
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> cached: if you go the ssh way you can easily script it
[19:36] <trism> edbian: and yes, the Disallow: /~ is what was blocking it, since all the files were in a user directory
[19:36] <berkay_> Can i ask my questions here? I have a sound problem.
[19:36] <cached> ActionParsnip: that's the plan =)
[19:36] <Alonea> edbian: not necessarily, but its considered polite to not spam the server....especially since they have a robot file in the first place
[19:36] <umc> mek||malloc: didn't work. it just asked me if I want to add it to the list of hosts, but after saying yes I got the same message
[19:36] <abhijit> !ask | berkay_
[19:36] <Peeteer> So my after a few months,  i could get my girlfriend to install ubuntu since it really would fit her needs. She is pretty lazy but after a while she gave in. She installed from Wubi installer, on a sony vaio vgn-ns11j machine, and the thing is that , she can not log in or do anything, because the numbers of her keyboard doesnt work
[19:36] <Peeteer> *my girlfriend
[19:36] <mek||malloc> berkay_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting Take a look at that
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> mek||malloc: 32bit is more supported by 3rd party developers and some hardware manufacturers
[19:37] <edbian> Alonea, Very good!  :)
[19:37] <mek||malloc> ActionParsnip: Ah ha, that seems like a logical explanation.
[19:37] <sergio__> salvve
[19:37] <ozzloy> my window manager won't start.  but i can start vim from a terminal via export DISPLAY=:0.0; gvim
[19:37] <sergio__> !list
[19:37] <edbian> Peeteer, I'm assuming you tried num-lock key?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> mek||malloc: brother seem to only like 32bit on their site from what I've seen, to name one
[19:37] <ozzloy> how do i get my gnome desktop back?
[19:37] <Peeteer> it is a laptop
[19:38] <edbian> Peeteer, It still has a num-lock key...
[19:38] <Naznaz> hi, i got a warning considering my locale: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/13Bu4ib8 anyone knowing how to fix it?
[19:38] <Alonea> edbian: and I don't need the files right this second so its free to take a while. I am trying to help out a friend at another uni. they are expected to know c++ without taking any classes on it
[19:38] <berkay_> I have Realtek AC883 sound card . I cant get my front panel sound output working? What should i do?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> ozzloy: press alt+f2 and type: nautilus ,press enter
[19:38] <ozzloy> if i try to start nautilus, or a bunch of other programs, i get "floating point exception nautilus"
[19:38] <edbian> Alonea, Ouch!
[19:38] <edbian> Alonea, Better learn quick!
[19:38] <ilovefairuz> c3l: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20490
[19:38] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, did you get the current driver installed ?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> berkay_: run: sudo lshw -C sound ,to find the acual chip
[19:38] <Peeteer> yes, i know, but im pretty sure she did, actually numlock isnt turned on by default, and i dont need it to be turned on for the numbers to work on my sony vaio
[19:39] <ozzloy> ActionParsnip, yeahh... alt+f2 doesn't even work.  i have to ctrl+alt+f1 to even get a terminal
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> ozzloy: yikes, what about if you boot an earlier kernel?
[19:39] <Alonea> edbian: yeah, poor girl. I took this ages ago and knew the professor keeps his stuff up forever. she is trying to learn it asap before her classes start.
[19:39] <berkay_> ActionParsnip  , I did that. Its N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller .
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> berkay_: ok, that is your sound chip
[19:39] <edbian> Alonea, Good luck!
[19:39] <abhijit> !sound | berkay_
[19:40] <abhijit> bye.
[19:40] <Rou> berkay_ : what is the command to add user in ubuntu terminal
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> berkay_: check in alsamixer that its not muted and the sliders are cranked
[19:40] <c3l> ilovefairuz: adobe really stands up to their reprutation
[19:40] <c3l> ilovefairuz: thanks
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | rou
[19:40] <mek||malloc> ozzloy: I think I'd try a memory test and or run a live disk and see if you are having similar problems... Unless this is something that recently started happening and once was fine.
[19:40] <berkay_> ActionParsnip: I did that.
[19:40] <berkay_> Rou: I dont know.
[19:40] <Rou> erk
[19:41] <Rou> anyone ?
[19:41] <JK3MP> Is this the best place to ask a question about a LINUX specific programming question?
[19:41] <Peeteer> It took reaaally long to make her install ubuntu since she is pretty lazy about computer stuffs, and it sucks we got stuck at this point, and if i would be present at her computer it would be easier but right now we live in a different country and i have no idea why her numbers dont work. Pretty annoying.
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> berkay_: cool, then copy the product line from the lshw output, see if there are any guides or bugs logged
[19:41] <razass> few qs is 10.04 ready for production webserver use?
[19:41] <Pici> JK3MP: No, a channel for your programming language is probably best.
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> razass: yes, its officially released
[19:41] <edbian> JK3MP, Perhaps #linux
[19:41] <razass> great
[19:42] <Rou> Pici : how to add a user in unbuntu ?
[19:42] <Rou> ubuntu*
[19:42] <razass> and can it handle the i7's hyperthreading? or do you only get the 4 physical cores with 10.04?
[19:42] <RingZer0> I changed to ubuntu recently... one of the things I love about kde (vs gnome) was the built-in colorpicker.... is there a widget like that for ubuntu/gnome?
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> Rou: the factoid tells you all you need to know. Just read
[19:42] <Peeteer> Rou, there is an option for user and groups
[19:42] <Pici> Rou: the command is 'adduser', see its manpage for more help.
[19:42] <nitrogoldfish> RingZer0: you could always use kubuntu (ubuntu with KDE)
[19:42] <Rou> ok
[19:43] <RingZer0> I stayed in the "tray" and remembered the last 30 colors you picked... each had a context and ability to copy the HTML color code, RGB color code, etc...
[19:43] <JK3MP> Pici thank you.
[19:43] <JK3MP> edbian, thank you.
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> razass: I don't use multicore but I would imagine it does
[19:43] <edbian> JK3MP, Good luck
[19:43] <JK3MP> edbian, Thanks. lol
[19:43] <Peeteer> Rou or also if you need GUI go with, System - > Administration -> Users and Groups :)
[19:43] <razass> ActionParsnip: ok I just wasnt sure if the multithreading was part of the proc or needed to be OS supported
[19:43] <RingZer0> nitrogoldfish: nah... i really prefer gnome (or LXDE)).
[19:44] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, did you get the current driver installed ?
[19:44] <RingZer0> but do ya'll have any ideas for a built-in panel-based color picker?
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> razass: should be. Boot to livecd and run: cat /proc/cpu | less ,to check
[19:44] <Maletor> Is RAID 0 striped across 6 drives generally a bad idea due to the high risk of failure?
[19:44] <razass> ActionParsnip: I am building the server now so thats why im asking :)
[19:44] <RingZer0> Where do I get more items like "drawer" and "eyes" for the panel?
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: there are more points of failure, drives are cheap and the speed will be phenominal. Keep backups up to date and you are laughing
[19:45] <umc> Maletor: yes. if any of the 6 drives fails, you lose all the information
[19:45] <Peeteer> So does anyone have any idea why numbers dont work on a sony vaio vgn-ns11j laptop after a fresh install of ubuntu with wubi installer, apart from the numlock key idea of edbian ?
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: could go for 3x2 or raid10
[19:45] <Naznaz> hi, i got a warning considering my locale: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/13Bu4ib8 anyone knowing how to fix it?
[19:45] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: How do you mean 3x2?
[19:45] <magicianlord> Peeteer: did you unlock the numlock?
[19:46] <Maletor> RAID 10 seems redundent for me since it's mostly media.
[19:46] <tkinlok> I have a problem with the package manger - I try to install biff, but the package manager removes comsat which biff needs.  I try to install comsat, the package manager removes biff.  Any way around this?  I need both installed for biff to work.
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: each drive in a raid 1 but the 3 logical drives in one big super raid 0 "drive"
[19:46] <RingZer0> Maletor: redundancy when used with the word backup is never a bad thing
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: you get the idea
[19:46] <mek||malloc> ActionParsnip: Not that I'm suggesting you read but the resource http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=403064 was also helpful regarding the 32 v. 64 bit distros. Thanks again for the insight. I think I'll stick with 32 bit for now.
[19:47]  * RingZer0 using 64 right now...
[19:47] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: The thing I don't like about RAID 5 is how it can't be a boot drive
[19:47] <RingZer0> I have to take advantage of my i7
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> mek||malloc: 64bit helps with sound encoding and video encoding, stuff like that
[19:47] <Maletor> I have to create 3 partitions, boot, swap and root
[19:47] <RingZer0> ActionParsnip: and your cores :)
[19:47] <Spiffydude> raid 5 cant be a boot drive?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: have an sdcard with grub2 on it to then boot the raid
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> RingZer0: huh?
[19:48] <Spiffydude> I have a Raid 5 server running right now.
[19:48] <Peeteer> magicianlord: since mine wasnt turned on by default, i dont think her was, but i will ask her next time she will be around the computer, i just try to gather as many ready options as possible since she is very lazy with computers , and installations, and such, and i really dont think it was the num-lock but i will ask her
[19:48] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: is there a tutorial for that?
[19:48] <stealth_> Hey guys, got a newb question. Basically, I need truecrypt on linux. I got the tar.gz file but so far no matter what guides I have looked at its not working at all for me
[19:48] <stealth_> So how would I install the tar.gz file?
[19:48] <Spiffydude> extract the tar.gz
[19:48] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: or rather could you be more verbose?
[19:48] <mek||malloc> stealth_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149561
[19:48] <Naznaz> hi, i got a warning considering my locale: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/13Bu4ib8 anyone knowing how to fix it?
[19:49] <delac> can't reconnect my 3G connection after manual disconnect. Does anyone know how to fix this? Connecting after replugging the usb-modem works though.
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: ild image its around. If you have an understanding of raid you can setup the drives as you wish
[19:49] <Maletor> Also I have all my data in RAID 5 now so the ONLY way for me to go about changing the RAID number around (since it is software) is to backup everything right?
[19:51] <will> Hi. I keep running into this issue where my X session seems to freeze. The mouse cursor is frozen with some icon (that looks like a word doc), but I can't click on anything/any other window. But the windows themselves are being updated (I have another IRC window open, that is still working, for example)
[19:51] <Oer> yes, you better backup data using software raid, Maletor
[19:51] <will> Just wondering if there's something I can restart to make this all work again...
[19:52] <gladiator> whats would be the location of cache in google chrome?
[19:52] <Atlas> general file permissions question: do services like apache and vsftpd access files with the permissions under "other"?
[19:52] <Atlas> gladiator, app data iirc
[19:52] <Peeteer> So does anyone have any idea why numbers dont work on a sony vaio vgn-ns11j laptop after a fresh install of ubuntu with wubi installer, apart from the numlock key idea of edbian and magicianlord ?
[19:52] <FBP> Hi. I have a 64 bit pentium. Do I download amd64 or i386?
[19:52] <will> amd64
[19:52] <will> FBP: --^
[19:52] <Atlas> it doest list them as a files though, its one gigantic blob
[19:53] <FBP> Thanks!
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> gladiator: I believe $HOME/.config/ someplace or $HOME/.google
[19:53] <gladiator> ActionParsnip, ok thanks. let me try
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> FBP: if you want a 64bit OS, grab them AMD64 iso
[19:53] <Peeteer> by the way i did try to google it :)
[19:53] <Nijverheid> in ubuntu 10.something, I do a2enmod php5 (to get php5 working with apache and it says ERROR: Module php5 does not exist! even though it's clearly in mods-available... help? plz :)
[19:54] <mek||malloc> I think it would probably be .chromium or some such, rather than .google
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> FBP: if you have less than 3Gb RAM and only need web browsing and desktop stuff like that then 32bit is great
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> Nijverheid: if its 10.10 then your support isn't here so the something is important
[19:55] <mek||malloc> Nijverheid: sudo apt-get install php5 ?
[19:55] <sergio__> salve a tutti
[19:55] <Nijverheid> mek||malloc: already installed
[19:55] <Nijverheid> ActionParsnip: I'll check now
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> Nijverheid: what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[19:55] <berkay_> Hey! I still cant get any sound from my front panel. my sound card chip is "N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller" I think i actually get sound from both Front and Rear ,but sound is very low from front. and I cant serparte them. It says only one output.
[19:55] <sergio__> !list
[19:56] <Nijverheid> ActionParsnip: Lucid
[19:56] <mek||malloc> Everyone should: emacs -nw ~/.bashrc -> + alias install='sudo apt-get install ' -> source ~/.bashrc
[19:56] <Atlas> berkay_, use the back then :)
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> Nijverheid: good, you are fully supported here :)
[19:56] <Nijverheid> ActionParsnip: good to know ;)
[19:56] <xmad> Nijverheid, I had the same problem, you just have to add php5 manually on apache
[19:57] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: How would I install grub2 onto a SD drive? I mean, how would it know where to look for my drives, how it mount my drives? Would I point it at /dev/md1? So many questions...
[19:57] <xmad> I don't remember exactly how I did it but it was too simple
[19:57] <cranil> hey guys how good/bad is Ubuntu on Dell Studio?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> cranil: depends on the exact hardware
[19:57] <Nijverheid> xmad: haha, I'll google it. Cheers for the tip though :)
[19:58] <Atlas> cranil, depends
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> cranil: check the hcl
[19:58] <mek||malloc> ^ ?
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: use the ubuntu livecd and the grub2 doc and you can install it there
[19:58] <flux_> hi there. my laptop is kind of broken, but when i manage to get ubuntu working, it is a charm! the problem is, it only boots 1 / 2 times and since i updated after lucid default install, it always breaks when x is started. how can i failsafeX, since the live CD ALWAYS manages to boot? i tried removing "quiet splash", even adding single user boot - but then it breaks when the framebuffer is loaded (all my computers do then)
[19:59] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: I can't use the liveCD if I want to set up RAID, I would need alternate.
[19:59] <flux_> i tried searching for it and googling for it - i even managed to do so before, but after grub2 got introduced i cannot even disable x at startup at all
[19:59] <flux_> which would be enough
[19:59] <mek||malloc> I've been pretty well supported for ubuntu on every dell I've tried...  back to a dell latitude c400 laptop
[19:59] <Nijverheid> uggg, I just remembered I installed php5 from source >_< this is going to be fun lol
[19:59] <xmad> Nijverheid, I tried adding how to do that here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP but it was blocked couldn't add it and now I forgot how :(
[19:59] <cranil> I'm buying the one which is Rs. 48,400:
[19:59] <cranil> http://www1.ap.dell.com/in/en/home/notebooks/laptop-studio-1555/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-studio-1555&s=dhs&cs=indhs1&~ck=mn
[19:59] <flux_> the live cd somehow understands my laptop's difficulties, thus starting failsafeX, but unfortunately the desktop does not
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: sure, I think you MAY be able to have the sd card in the system at install and set it to mount as /boot and install grub to it in one move :)
[20:00] <Atlas> flux, are you sayng you dont want/need x at all?
[20:00] <DormantOden> hey, is it possible to run multiple kill commands in bash?
[20:00] <flux_> would be a charm for debugging purposes, but i cannot find gdm anymore...
[20:00] <mek||malloc> flux_: So you've tried changing your /etc/inittab or whatnot to boot into multi-user mode with no X and then manually startx / initx?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> DormantOden: sure: kill pid1; kill pid2; kill pid3....
[20:00] <flux_> since upstart got introduced i do not have a inittab
[20:00] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: Also, can I remove a partition if I want. I have a swap in md2 in RAID 0 across 4 drives. Can I get rid of this and throw it onto the RAID5?
[20:00] <mek||malloc> DormantOden: You can write a bash script
[20:01] <jrendil> hello
[20:01] <flux_> so i can set my machine to run in runlevel 4 using inittab?
[20:01] <mek||malloc> #!/bin/bash
[20:01] <DormantOden> ahh, I did somthing silly with my script. Thanks =P
[20:01] <Atlas> does apache2 access file with root privaledges?
[20:01] <jrendil> is anybody here knowledgeable about dmraid ?
[20:01] <maco> flux_: runlevels, 2, 3, 4, and 5 are all the same in ubuntu...
[20:01] <mek||malloc> Or, I believe you can use && @ DormantOden
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: should be ok. I'm too tired to make a call like that dude
[20:01] <flux_> oh i see
[20:02] <mek||malloc> That's what I was thinking, at least until you can update whatever libs are causing your problems
[20:02] <mek||malloc> Or see if the problem is your xorg.conf, something with xrandr
[20:02] <BluesKaj> !who | flux_ , mek||malloc
[20:02] <mek||malloc> Or if it's gnome, (or fluxbox) whatever window manager you're using.
[20:02] <mek||malloc> Sounds like an X problem to me, though
[20:03] <flux_> cannot i mv /etc/init/gdm* to prohibit gdm?
[20:03] <stealth_> K guys, i tried following the instructions for installing truecrypt on 10.04 but its still not working, anyone mind guiding me through it/
[20:03] <mek||malloc> BluesKaj: Sorry about that. Will do.
[20:03] <mek||malloc> flux_: You also may wish to see what kernel you're using versus what kernel is loaded on the live cd
[20:04] <alkisg> Usually in ubuntu apt-get is suggested instead of aptitude, but I couldn't find any reason for preferring apt-get in google. Any pointers?
[20:04] <flux_> i tried booting the cd kernel already
[20:04] <dawning_> Howdy - I've just set up a Mirrored LVM - anyone have experience with how sturdy these things are?
[20:04] <DormantOden> mek: I'm writing it in a #!/bin/sh script, and although using ';' or '&&' works for everything else, it dosen't seem to work for kill commands :/
[20:05] <BluesKaj> alkisg, apt-get in google ?
[20:05] <DormantOden> mel: but if it really should, I guess there's somthing i've missed in the scipt
[20:05] <DormantOden> *mek:
[20:05] <Nijverheid> it must be said, the most frustrating thing is that all these websites have threads which say "do this to httpd.conf" or whatever, but in Ubuntu, it all works completely differently >_> why?
[20:05] <aeon-ltd> alkisg: type less
[20:05] <aeon-ltd> alkisg: saves time
[20:05] <alkisg> BluesKaj: yes, apt-get in google didn't tell me why people use it instead of aptitude...
[20:05] <ninjai> Has anyone else noticed that ubuntu 10.04 is kind of randomly slow for seemingly no reason?
[20:05] <ablyss> greycat, tonights winning lotto number?
[20:05] <alkisg> aeon-ltd: a different tool just for less typing? ok, but it sounds strange..
[20:06] <BluesKaj> !aptitude | alkisg
[20:06] <aeon-ltd> alkisg: yeah i know it could have just been aliased
[20:06] <mek||malloc> DormantOden: Ah, I understand. You can try a little for loop with a kill by regex pattern? Would be really easy to do in perl as well... But depends what exactly you're trying to do.
[20:06] <alkisg> BluesKaj: I'm just curious about the "apt-get vs aptitute"  "debate", I do know how to use both of them...
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: aptitude gives more (pointless) information about the package like if its been installed before and other stuff, aptitude also gives a console based gui
[20:07] <cranil> I heard that Ubuntu doesnt work very well with ATI-graphics cards is it still that bad?
[20:07]  * Nijverheid stabs PHP5 and Apache server
[20:07] <kermit> how do i use network manager with a bridge device?  it makes me pick wired or wireless
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: you can use them interchangably
[20:07] <ZykoticK9> alkisg, FYI aptitude isn't installed by default in the upcoming 10.10
[20:07] <headkase314> cranil, my Ati Radeon HD 4670 is working fine here.
[20:07] <cranil> what about the 5470?
[20:07] <BluesKaj> alkisg, personally I prefer aptitude , was told by some ppl "in the know" that it resolves dependencies more thoroughly than the apt-get comand
[20:07] <alkisg> ActionParsnip, ZykoticK9: e.g. how would I do "aptitude changelog package" with apt-get ?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> cranil: there are proprietary drivers. Www.ati.com will show you what is supported. Old cards work too with the open driver
[20:08] <nitrogoldfish> ZykoticK9: why? my understanding was aptitude was preferred overapt-get apt-cache apt-[whatever else it has]
[20:08] <ZykoticK9> alkisg, sorry i don't know/use the changelog stuff (and i should)
[20:08] <maco> BluesKaj: i was told by the kubuntu developers (including a core-dev) that aptitude resolves more poorly than apt-get
[20:08] <flux_> mek||malloc, ty. mentioning inittab made the trick. i man'ed for the rest. /etc/init/gdm.conf should be enough for me
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: I don't know. I only use apt-get
[20:08] <ZykoticK9> nitrogoldfish, in Debian yes, in ubuntu no.
[20:08] <iElectric> guys, what's the procedure purging a package that fails to do so?
[20:08] <maco> BluesKaj: "braindead" was the word they used
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> iElectric: sudo apt-get --purge packagename
[20:09] <nitrogoldfish> ZykoticK9: at risk of sounding like a 5-year-old....why?
[20:09] <iElectric> ActionParsnip: that fails
[20:09] <edbian> nitrogoldfish, ZykoticK9 I was under the impression it was more opinion than anything. Is there something that doesn't work right about aptitude in Ubuntu>
[20:09] <edbian> ?
[20:09] <alkisg> Thank you guys... still wondering though, developing a whole new series of tools that do the same things like an existing tool still seems strange... :)
[20:09] <ZykoticK9> nitrogoldfish, i'm not sure???
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> iElectric: can you give a pastebin of the output please
[20:09] <alkisg> Maybe the decision was based on their developement team members
[20:10] <ZykoticK9> edbian, "sudo aptitiude safe-upgrade" is required if you're getting a paritial update situation - so i'm not sure why it was removed from default install
[20:10] <^cheeky> hi, i have windows 7  installed already and i  am trying to install ubuntu 10.4 , but iam trying to create my partition of /home different from the / partition . i am at the prepare partition section of the ubuntu installation but i cant create my home partition. I think because i have more that 4 primary partition already and i need to know how i can get around this, here is a pic of partition setup in the ubuntu installer
[20:10] <^cheeky> http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/2624/img0540x.jpg. i thought i wold be safe installing windows first and the ubuntu as the windows would just mess up the bootloader
[20:10] <iElectric> ActionParsnip: can't really since it's in a terminal without internet
[20:10] <philinux> alkisg: Have a read there are lots. http://www.google.com/search?q=aptitude+vs+apt-get&hl=en&prmd=df&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:y&sa=X&ei=5tJuTIiVHsiOjAf0yoj7CA&ved=0CAwQpwU
[20:10] <iElectric> ActionParsnip: basically postrm is failinf
[20:10] <iElectric> failaing*
[20:10] <iElectric> ActionParsnip: athough the script is empty
[20:10] <iElectric> ActionParsnip: the package is nvidia-173
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> iElectric: copy the text, paste to a text file. Whack the file on a removable media
[20:11] <alkisg> philinux: I did, and they all say that aptitude is better, so I'm wondering why ubuntu is prefering apt-get...
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> iElectric: access it on a web enabled system and pastebin there
[20:11] <iElectric> ActionParsnip: it's bascially: error on exec formatting at postrm script
[20:11] <philinux> alkisg: I dont think there is any diif now really. In fact in 10.10 aptitude is no longer a default install
[20:11] <BluesKaj> alkisg, aptitude seems more conservative / cautious in it's approach to bringing in otherapps that are required as dependencies
[20:12] <maco> alkisg:  i've had it happen a few times that aptitude wants to remove or hold back half my system from updating but apt-get works fine
[20:12] <joiner> hi
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: neither is better, they are both better in different ways. If one was outright best, the other would not be added
[20:12] <mek||malloc> flux_: Glad you had some luck with your problem. Everyone needs some from time to time.
[20:12] <joiner> can HDMI works with ATI free driver?
[20:12] <alkisg> OK, thank you guys
[20:12] <maco> alkisg: every time i mention something about "hey guys the thing you uploaded isnt updating right for me" in #kubuntu-devel, they tell me to stop using that braindead aptitude and use apt-get..
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> iElectric: is there a bug report for this? If you move the .postrm file for the package, it should uninstall clean
[20:13] <philinux> When I'm in my maverick install I always use this. aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> maco: weird
[20:13] <iElectric> ActionParsnip: no bug report yet, I'm guessing it's because I overriden with manual nvidia installation
[20:13] <iElectric> or jockey is hoding it back somehow
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> maco: good film though
[20:13] <ZykoticK9> philinux, with a development release safe-upgrade is important - less important in final releases though
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> iElectric: most likely then
[20:13] <maco> ActionParsnip: film?
[20:13] <JoshuaL> What application can I use best to convert my videos to the format iPad accepts?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> maco: its a b horror movie. Its the sequel to Bad Taste
[20:14] <philinux> ZykoticK9: agreed.
[20:14] <muzo> hi every1
[20:14] <philinux> ZykoticK9: I only use apt-get in lucid
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: there is no best app for anything
[20:15] <JoshuaL> ActionParsnip, your right ;-) any application you recommend? :p
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: there are options and preferences and abilities, none are outright best. Each one may excel in a different way
[20:15] <peter___> can someone help me please? my gwibber account will not add my facebook account for some reason, i did check launchpad and reinstall and reboot but still not working
[20:15] <ZykoticK9> JoshuaL, i don't know what format iPad uses/accepts - but i'm going to guess MP4 (with AAC audio) - so Handbrake is probably your best bet on Ubuntu right now
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: handbrake or mencoder
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: won't it play the files as they are?
[20:16] <muzo> i have a free space. but i can not format it as any format to use it as storage. it gives this error : It is not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions. can you please help me.
[20:16] <ZykoticK9> JoshuaL, ffmpeg on ubuntu doesn't support AAC right now
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: what format are they?
[20:16] <JoshuaL> ActionParsnip, usually mkv. it has to be MP4 (with AAC audio) like ZykoticK9 said
[20:17] <BluesKaj> JoshuaL, don't forget ffmpeg can be very effective in the cli
[20:17] <JoshuaL> ill give handbrake a try :)
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: wow that's pretty poor, thought the ipad was meant to be amazing...
[20:17] <Peeteer> So does anyone have any idea why numbers dont work on a sony vaio vgn-ns11j laptop after a fresh install of ubuntu with wubi installer, apart from the numlock key idea of edbian and magicianlord ? By the way, i did try to google it, even forums
[20:17] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, except for the AAC handycap
[20:17] <duffydack> my ffmpeg supports aac :)
[20:17] <JoshuaL> ActionParsnip, i hoped it would support more formats too
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: maybe ffmpeg can do it
[20:17] <ZykoticK9> duffydack, non-repo based ffmpeg can
[20:18] <duffydack> yup
[20:18] <JoshuaL> ZykoticK9, said ffmpeg doesnt support AAC, so ill give handbrake a try :)
[20:18] <BluesKaj> ZykoticK9, hmm , never had a prob with ffmpeg , but I don't bother with aac
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaL: more rasons for folks not to buy one "by the way we don't support too many formats cos we're dumb so you'll need to convert ALL you stuff to fit around the lack of features"
[20:18] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, it's a "bug" legal issue (upstream however)
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> They should put that in the advert
[20:18] <JoshuaL> Thanks for the tips!
[20:19] <muzo> i have a free space. but i can not format it as any format to use it as storage. it gives this error : It is not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions. can you please help me.
[20:19] <JoshuaL> ActionParsnip, i can live with it, but it would have been nice if it did support more formats indeed
[20:19] <aeon-ltd> if only there was format neutrality
[20:19]  * BluesKaj seldom burns to dvd anymore
[20:19] <JoshuaL> the device is not that amazing imo
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> aeon-ltd: +1, ogg preferably :)
[20:20] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: There exists nothing outside quicktime --Apple
[20:20] <Atlas> is there a way to read file permissions in the octal format?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: true, the religion of Jobs
[20:20] <Scunizi> Is there a way to unpack a .dmg file (it's a mac file)
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Atlas: sure: read = 4, write = 2 execute = 1
[20:21] <aeon-ltd> Scunizi: its a iso basically try mounting it
[20:21] <Atlas> ActionParsnip,  i mean a command to display them
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Atlas: not sure personally, maybe someone else knows
[20:21] <kermit> aeon-ltd: i htought you had to convert it to hfs first
[20:21] <kermit> Scunizi: if that doesnt work, apt-cache search dmg  .. then install that package
[20:21] <tembrae> !gwibber
[20:21] <Scunizi> aeon-ltd: ah.. ok.. but wouldn't mounting it try to run it? I don't want that.  I just want to extract a file from it.
[20:21] <kermit> Scunizi: then mount the hfs.. if you cant just mount that dmg
[20:22] <kermit> Scunizi: no mounting doesnt run things
[20:22] <muzo> please someone help me :( why i can not use my free space :(
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Atlas: if you use: ls -la file ,you can manually calculate it, the first character is a special one, so miss that
[20:22] <Scunizi> kermit: k..
[20:22] <aeon-ltd> !details | muzo
[20:22] <tembrae> help pls my gwibber does not add facebook, i reinstalled it like launchpad recommend but not working..
[20:22] <earthling_> How do I open an .odt file in Abiword?
[20:22] <ZykoticK9> Atlas it's an interesting question, i was hoping someone had an answer - but i think ActionParsnip is correct, the person needs to do the conversion mentally ;)
[20:23] <^cheeky> hehe
[20:23] <Scunizi> kermit: apt-cache returns "dmg2img".. " Tool for converting compress dmg files to hfsplus images" ... does that mean it will convert to an .iso?
[20:23] <bcbc2> muzo: you can't have more than 4 primary partitions. You'll have to delete a primary partition, create an extended partition and then you can create multiple partitions within that
[20:23] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: hi mate...I ended up reformatting and starting again....this time round I installed "current", then installed 195 over the top...all is well so far :D
[20:23] <Peeteer> Well, okay, im not gonna flood this channel with my question, thank you for the help both of you edbian and magicianlord. Ill try the numlock, maybe she didnt notice the problem.
[20:24] <kermit> Scunizi: no, hfs.. you can mount the hfs though.. (assuming you couldnt just mount the dmg like aeon-ltd suggested)
[20:24] <Peeteer> Good night for everyone, (it is night time for me :) )
[20:24] <niko->  THESE FLOODS ARE BEING DONE WITH PORT 80, 8080 AND 3128 L3 PROXIES! WHY DOES FREENODE PORTSCANNER SUCK SO MUCH? WILL THEY EVER FIX IT? DO THEY EVEN CARE? niko- durarara Petrux-ec aguitel Gimped gladiator mackal l34k jono DrGrov jlab moza AnoXe zomgcar pure_hate nastjuid PaulEycks jenkins dirk_ earthling_ kalypto fantasticulous hey_joe styx_ alexei cadence tembrae lux` muzo chalcedny WXZ kamthorn joiner Cpudan80_ abhinav avsu dreamnid steffen__ charmer sluthe
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[20:24] <niko->  THESE FLOODS ARE BEING DONE WITH PORT 80, 8080 AND 3128 L3 PROXIES! WHY DOES FREENODE PORTSCANNER SUCK SO MUCH? WILL THEY EVER FIX IT? DO THEY EVEN CARE? mawst NewWorld Peeteer mek||malloc kthomas_vh_ g0bl1n Missingno255 mintux it-hero cached EbanSoul zeltak mikebeecham JK3MP fredim jeiworth Osagasu jeffisabelle knitzsche franta fcuk112 imcsk8 reflectivedev ishan BluesKaj Xerora_^ sladen pickett_ mattwynne _GoRDoN_ Alonea MohammadAG dagny_taggart Robert_Zenz
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[20:24] <niko->  THESE FLOODS ARE BEING DONE WITH PORT 80, 8080 AND 3128 L3 PROXIES! WHY DOES FREENODE PORTSCANNER SUCK SO MUCH? WILL THEY EVER FIX IT? DO THEY EVEN CARE? glassresistor JonathanEllis fujnky_ bdiu earthmeLon Visine ryanakca T260G Benny-X douglasawh-work 5EXABA7N3 Vanadis Leif DesiArnez6 well_laid_lawn nibbier goldins Suit_Of_Sables automatical wildc4rd brianchidester Zathara remote AntonioBlob rerushg _raven_ tankdriver bihari yurebis josh_tube m0t3jl Therstri
[20:24] <FloodBot3> niko-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:24] <Peeteer> bye bye
[20:24] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, cool , glad to hear it
[20:24] <kthomas_vh_> oh goet
[20:24] <ThomasB2k> thank you
[20:24] <Pici> !botattack
[20:24] <DrGrov> Can't this idiots get banned permanently?
[20:24] <kthomas_vh_> a floodbot talking about floods
[20:25] <^cheeky> need boats
[20:25] <DrGrov> Nothing being done about that?
[20:25] <VorTechSS>  THESE FLOODS ARE BEING DONE WITH PORT 80, 8080 AND 3128 L3 PROXIES! WHY DOES FREENODE PORTSCANNER SUCK SO MUCH? WILL THEY EVER FIX IT? DO THEY EVEN CARE? VorTechSS Olytibar duffydack durarara Petrux-ec aguitel gladiator mackal l34k jono DrGrov jlab moza AnoXe zomgcar pure_hate nastjuid PaulEycks jenkins dirk_ earthling_ kalypto fantasticulous hey_joe styx_ alexei cadence tembrae lux` muzo chalcedny WXZ kamthorn joiner Cpudan80_ abhinav avsu dreamnid st
[20:25] <VorTechSS>  THESE FLOODS ARE BEING DONE WITH PORT 80, 8080 AND 3128 L3 PROXIES! WHY DOES FREENODE PORTSCANNER SUCK SO MUCH? WILL THEY EVER FIX IT? DO THEY EVEN CARE? Spec jsurfer xephon forrestGimp j_ack arthurrilke Gujs hopper_irc yannux DormantOden sgh lukaszg Fuzzy jcape Jibadeeha kkszysiu Biolunar flux_ rbZ Bhudle sacho berkay_ cdpuk Enissay enmand ZykoticK9 CodingDistrict Bobdroid Atlas Pamela69 happyface undecim Freejack` ^cheeky seif stealth_ gagzilla seedy
[20:25] <Leif> Oh joy not again. :(
[20:25] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: thanks for all your help earlier on.  I know we didnt really get anywhere, but I did learn a little along the way, and I'm thankful that you were patient with me
[20:25] <DrGrov> Kind of makes me angry to have a bunch of idiots running around highlighting my name
[20:25] <noatime> lol
[20:25] <^cheeky> flood is coming get on the boats
[20:25] <^cheeky> quick!
[20:25] <aeon-ltd> i need a ark
[20:25] <DrGrov> Nah
[20:25] <Pici> !botattack
[20:25] <stealth_> Guys I have a question. I have a plantronics wireless USB headset. The question is, how the hell do I install the drivers for it, as I have not found one tutorial that explains how to do it or where to find the drivers to install?
[20:25] <DrGrov> This channel is screwed
[20:25] <^cheeky> lol
[20:25] <Pici> Please stop comenting on the spam.
[20:25] <jpds> DrGrov: Not really.
[20:25] <tembrae> can someone help me please? my gwibber account will not add my facebook account for some reason, i did check launchpad and reinstall and reboot but still not working
[20:25] <DrGrov> Pici: What? I can not comment on the spam?
[20:25] <kthomas_vh_> DrGrov, only happens occasionally
[20:26] <iElectric> how to boot into terminal in lucid?
[20:26] <vect> everybody ignore the man behind the curtain
[20:26] <DrGrov> Pici: Who are you to tell me what to comment and not?
[20:26] <jpds> DrGrov: An op?
[20:26] <maco> stealth_: shouldnt need to..
[20:26] <kthomas_vh_> and usually the complainers are the largest part of the problem
[20:26] <stealth_> Maco
[20:26] <maco> DrGrov: an op
[20:26] <LjL> !offtopic | DrGrov
[20:26] <ThomasB2k> Commenting on the spam won't make them think they've reached their goal. If they're banned, then they won't see the commenting.
[20:26] <iElectric> can't seem to find a way to remove gdm from upstart
[20:26] <vect> ##comment-on-spam
[20:26] <noatime> does anybody know how to turn off the insanely annoying notifications in gnome?  they pop up even on top of video games.
[20:26] <stealth_> I plug the usb device in, turn the wireless headset on and then it does nothing maco
[20:26] <maco> ThomasB2k: however it /is/ offtopic
[20:26] <DrGrov> kthomas_vh_: Oh, big words there.
[20:26] <muzo>  bcbc2:  ubottu:  aeon-ltd: i use ubuntu 10.04 (updated). i have gparted. i dont know the command to give you my partition list. please tell me to give you the details. i want to make the last parttion as ext but i cant.
[20:26] <feydr> having to poweroff through a button in maverick ... what log file should I look for to see what is going on?
[20:26] <rww> feydr: maverick support in #ubuntu+1, not here
[20:26] <ThomasB2k> there should be a channel for commenting on spam then :p
[20:27] <noatime> TheFuzzball: whoever's spamming probably has a host that's staying in channel so they can see what goes on
[20:27] <ZykoticK9> iElectric, see my steps at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/boot-to-console---disable-graphical-login-gdm
[20:27] <noatime> I mean ThomasB2k
[20:27] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, well, there were some suggestions which probly put things offtrack and it seems there was something screwey with the drivers .
[20:27] <squirrel_labs> does commenting on spam become spam?
[20:27] <aeon-ltd> muzo: take a screenshot and upload it
[20:27] <TheFuzzball> :)
[20:27] <squirrel_labs> hmm
[20:27] <feydr> rww: thnx
[20:27] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: yeah I guess
[20:27] <DrGrov> But my legitimate Ubuntu question is actually the following: Why the hell is not the new kernel on Ubuntu 10.04 working out very well? .... The old kernel did not give any major problems at all. The stock that came with 10.04
[20:28] <iElectric> ZykoticK9: clever
[20:28] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: anyway, all seems to be well.  I have my outstanding "duplicate SMB shares under Places" issue...but that can wait for another day UI guess
[20:28] <maco> stealth_: all existing alsa (linux audio) drivers are installed by default, i believe... so if its not working, it lacks support
[20:28] <stealth_> maco, so what you are saying is my headset is useless on ubuntu?
[20:28] <^cheeky> if i want to install home on a different partition even thought i have windows installed .. and when i try create a separate partition .. i create fifth one which ubuntu does not let me install , so do i have to remove the windows partition .. and re-do it all over again ?
[20:28] <maco> stealth_: likely, yes
[20:29] <jpds> DrGrov: Have you tried asking #ubuntu-kernel ?
[20:29] <maco> stealth_: i mean, check mixer settings in "alsamixer" to be sure....
[20:29] <DrGrov> jpds: Actually this is the first place I thought to ask in
[20:29] <DrGrov> I head over there
[20:29] <stealth_> How do I do that maco
[20:29] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, did you do a manual install without formatting to preserve your app config files ?
[20:29] <maco> stealth_: by typing "alsamixer" in a terminal and hitting enter
[20:29] <tembrae> this should have been an easy question for u, i guess gwibber is not a good app since no one use it i guess
[20:29] <stealth_> Ok, and what should that bring up maco
[20:29] <maco> stealth_: oh and check whether pulseaudio is set to output to the built-in sound card or the USB sound card...
[20:29] <maco> stealth_: it brings up a volume thing..
[20:30] <jlab> could someone help me figure out why amarok wont find my itunes music, its on a sperate partition and i have the box checked to it so it'll search that folder but nothing shows
[20:30] <maco> stealth_: use arrow keys to raise/lower volumes and M to mute/unmute
[20:30] <muzo> aeon-ltd:  http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4767/screenshotqx.jpg
[20:30] <OmegaPhil> Random question: On GNOME, does anyone know an applet that allows you to create and display an arbitrary graph of data?
[20:30] <OmegaPhil> Kind of like compa (http://code.google.com/p/compa/) displays the text output of a script, but in this case feed that into a graph
[20:30] <stealth_> Yeah maco, i put in alsamixer and it comes up with a bunch of settings
[20:30] <maco> stealth_: to change whether pulseaudio uses onboard or usb, run "pavucontrol" (which i dont think is installed by default)
[20:30] <BluesKaj> ^cheeky, delete one of your unused partitions and format that one
[20:30] <stealth_> Ok let me check maco 2 mins
[20:30] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: nahhh...I just wiped.  I had backed up a load of important files from the first format yesterday
[20:30] <muzo>  bcbc2:  ubottu:  aeon-ltd: http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4767/screenshotqx.jpg
[20:31] <aeon-ltd> muzo: sorry to point out the obvious but you ca't create more than 4 primary partitions you need to create it as extended/logical
[20:31] <bcbc2> muzo: you should be able to resize the extended partition, and then create a new logical
[20:31] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, ok , good call
[20:31] <maco> stealth_: sorry when i went to driver bit, i was assuming you'd already checked volume and set the system to use the headset
[20:31] <stealth_> Got it maco, I just had to press f6 and select the soundcard
[20:31] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: I'm nothing, if not thorough!
[20:31] <muzo> bcbc2: aeon-ltd: please tell it easy. i dont know english.
[20:31] <muzo> aeon-ltd: just tell me move sda xx ... bla bla...
[20:32] <duffydack> ZykoticK9, ffmpeg from repo with medibuntu extras supports aac with libfaac
[20:32] <stealth_> wait
[20:32] <yashi-> when i draw something in gimp my the line follows extremely slow the mouse cursor...is that normal?
[20:32] <stealth_> maco its still not working
[20:32] <flux_> mek||malloc, sorry for highlight, in case you are interested: the only problem was the framebuffer. funnily it gets loaded with the livecd after x starts, which seems to be fine (an egg dropped on my laptop, so it behaves weirdly). anyhow, rm /etc/init/gdm.conf makes ubuntu boot to terminal instead of starting X. the best thing is: i do not have to fall back to vesa! all i have to give up is the framebuffer
[20:33] <stealth_> in alsamixer6 i selected the wireless usb device as a soundcard but its still coming out the speakers
[20:33] <bcbc2> muzo: click on the line for /dev/sda4, then click on Partition, then Resize
[20:33] <maco> stealth_: does pavucontrol show the headset?
[20:33] <stealth_> let me check
[20:33] <neri> hi what`s the difference btw apt-cacher and apt-mirror if i want to create a repo server in my lan
[20:33] <bcbc2> muzo: you should do this froma live CD if /dev/sda5 is mounted
[20:33] <neri> ?
[20:33] <stealth_> gotta install it first maco, give mea min
[20:33] <maco> stealth_: for each application that's using sound, you can specify in pavucontrol whether it should use speakers or headset, so you can have skype on headset and music on speakers or whatever
[20:33] <jlab> amarok isnt finding my itunes music, does anyone know why
[20:33] <muzo> bcbc2: hmm from live cd...
[20:33] <stealth_> ok
[20:34] <flux_> i am sorry i was mistaken, livecd never started fb
[20:34] <gnomefreak> jlab: did you try in #kubuntu?
[20:34] <VincentSnijders> hi, I have a problem with my 6 year old laptop running ubuntu 10.4: if I suspend or hibernate, I get disk read errors after wakeup and I need to reboot to get a working computer. Does any body have an idea how I can make 'suspend' work?
[20:34] <muzo> bcbc2: i will restart now the computer. but please tell first. i will reise the sda4 and then ?
[20:34] <^cheeky> BluesKaj: see iam in a mess the copy win7 i have is given to me through my college with strong attacjed like i am only allowed to install it once and only updates as long as i remain in college taking classes , so if i remove that partition i wont be able to install windows 7 andi have to wait till schools starts to get another copy or what ever so i need to know if i can dual boot this machine with both OS without sacrificing the
[20:34] <^cheeky> windows partition, here is an image of where i am stuck at http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/2624/img0540x.jpg
[20:34] <flux_> so da** you fb! you awful culprit
[20:34] <maco> flux_: obfuscated swearing is still swearing
[20:34] <flux_> i apologize
[20:34] <earthling_> How do I open an .odt file in Abiword? it says error importing file
[20:34] <jlab> gnomefreak, should i ask it there? It seemed like a popular program in ubuntu as well
[20:34] <^cheeky> attatched
[20:35] <stealth_> Maco i got the headset working using pavucontrol
[20:35] <maco> stealth_: great
[20:35] <stealth_> thanks so much mate
[20:35] <gnomefreak> jlab: yes start there
[20:35] <stealth_> Apart from one thing
[20:35] <gnomefreak> jlab: its not a GTK app but a QT app
[20:35] <stealth_> the volumes stuck to nearly ful even when i turn the sound down
[20:35] <bcbc2> muzo: first, backing up data before playing with the partitions is recommended. Then you can boot from a live CD, run gparted. Select /dev/sda4, resize it to take up remaining space, then create a new logical partition in that space.
[20:35] <stealth_> NVM maco I got it
[20:35] <stealth_> Thanks again for your help
[20:36] <muzo> bcbc2:  ok thanks i will do it.
[20:36] <stealth_> (Finally getting ubuntu working for me, TrueCrypt and My headset are working, good stuff good stuff)
[20:36] <binni> I want to backup my home folder, it's about 64gb, there may be some files not owned by the user who owns the home folder, I'm running Ubuntu 10.04, I'm thinking maybe create "home.tar.gz" file somehow, any tips?
[20:37] <neri> hi what`s the difference btw apt-cacher and apt-mirror if i want to create a repo server in my lan?
[20:37] <BluesKaj> ^cheeky, what other OS's are on the drive ?...you can use windows to download and burn gparted live cd , a really good partition editor which you canuse to format and setup ext3/4 for ubuntu, without losing windows
[20:37] <VincentSnijders> !nl
[20:38] <BluesKaj> !gparted | ^cheeky
[20:39] <^cheeky> BluesKaj: well only windows and ubuntu , i was just thnking choose the option where you can tell ubunut installer to have both os side by side, but it wont have a different home tho
[20:39] <sensae> Hello. How can I kill empathy over SSH? Every time I kill the process /usr/bin/empathy -h it respawns with a different process ID
[20:40] <E3b> hello, is it possible to connect esata to esata between ubuntu(PC) and windows7 (Laptop) ? when I connect the esata cable, nothing change in dmesg... someone can help me please?
[20:40] <^cheeky> i could install side by side and the move home partition .. to a seprate partition later /.
[20:40] <Muscovy> sensae: you could always killall empathy.
[20:40] <sensae> Muscovy: It respawns.
[20:40] <Muscovy> Is it set to autostart?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> ^cheeky,  that's not such a terrible sacrifice , just one partition for ubuntu isn't the end of the world :)
[20:41] <sensae> Muscovy: No, I just happened to leave it running on my desktop.
[20:41] <jimcooncat> sensae: must be a way to get the parent id of it
[20:41] <^cheeky> blue
[20:41] <ozzloy> mek||malloc, memtest86 came back clean
[20:42] <Muscovy> sensae: What version are you in?
[20:42] <^cheeky> BluesKaj: you mean just utilize the rest of teh free space .. and not have home on a different partition ?
[20:42] <ozzloy> haven't tried an earlier version of the kernel though
[20:42] <sensae> Muscovy: Lucid. Is that what you mean?
[20:42] <Muscovy> Yes.
[20:43] <Muscovy> Hmm, I don't know.
[20:43] <^cheeky> *teh == the
[20:43] <Muscovy> Maybe get the PID and file a bug report on it?
[20:44] <mek||malloc> ozzloy: I'd suggest that.
[20:44] <BluesKaj> exactly, ^cheeky , if you need to reinstall ubuntu for some reason just use the manual partition option without reformatting and once installed , some non default apps may be missing but the config files will be reatined so all the settings for those apps will revert to settings on the previous install.
[20:44] <constantin_mike> hello. i have a small problem. mysql starts as service on boot, although i have disabled it from rcconf. what can i do to prevent it to start on boot?
[20:45] <ninjai> uninstall it?
[20:45] <E3b> hello, is it possible to connect esata to esata between ubuntu(PC) and windows7 (Laptop) ? when I connect the esata cable, nothing change in dmesg... someone can help me please?
[20:45] <ninjai> or just from boot
[20:45] <ninjai> ?
[20:45] <constantin_mike> ninjai: i need it :)
[20:45] <constantin_mike> just from boot
[20:45] <ninjai> okay
[20:45] <constantin_mike> i want to "service mysql start" it, but only when needed
[20:45] <ninjai> it must be in one of the rc.X folders..
[20:45] <mek||malloc> constantin_mike: You can either look at your /etc/init.d/mysql script... Or you can add a killall mysql in your /etc/rc.local.
[20:46] <ninjai> i think you can remove it from there but im not sure..
[20:46] <ninjai> you could make a startup script: service mysqld stop
[20:46] <jimcooncat> sensae: what's the PID?
[20:46] <mek||malloc> constantin_mike: Someone may have a better suggestion than that, but those are potential solutions.
[20:46] <jramsey> trying to get a usb gps working (garmin); when i plug it in i get this in dmesg: [ 2806.180081] usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2[ 2806.341288] usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[20:46] <jramsey>  my question is what's the assigned /dev device name?
[20:46] <antagomir> EXIT
[20:46] <mek||malloc> constantin_mike: My suggestions still holds, I believe.
[20:47] <^cheeky> BluesKaj: so just choose the option ""install  them side by side choosing them each startup" even though windows is installed first and it wont mess up the bootloader after the installartion:S
[20:47] <antagomir> hmm
[20:47] <constantin_mike> ninjai: yes but ... it will always ask for sudo passwd
[20:47] <kitply> hi, i am trying to login into my university server ravikumj@eces@colorado.edu using ssh. but i am getting message 'ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host'
[20:47] <kitply> can you help me resolve the issue
[20:47] <jimcooncat> sensae, this will give you the parent: ps -ppid PID
[20:48] <jimcooncat> sensae, oops, that's with two hyphens: ps --ppid PID
[20:48] <ZykoticK9> duffydack, do you mean the package aacplusenc in medibuntu by chance?  i'm having difficulties confirming medibuntu allows ffmpeg to use aac.
[20:49] <BluesKaj> ^cheeky, yes , you said windows is alrady installed , so installing ubuntu will also install grub2 which will ses the windows partition and include it in the boot menu
[20:49] <ninjai> constantin_mike: no, if you run the script from the rc.X directories it wont, that's all run as root when the system is booting
[20:49] <duffydack> ZykoticK9, no, libfaac.  I just tested it.  I knew it supported it but it wasnt 100% as i not used it in forever
[20:49] <gnuskool> allo allo
[20:49] <mek||malloc> kitply: Maybe they use a port other than 22? Also, make sure the IP is right? Finally, you may need cVPN to get within their network?
[20:50] <jramsey> if it doesnt show up in dmesg, how do i know what /dev device is assigned to a usb device?
[20:50] <^cheeky> BluesKaj: nice
[20:50] <iElectric> is there a way to run jocket in single mode?
[20:50] <mek||malloc> jramsey: If you want the device name in /dev, you can always: sudo fdisk -l to list available devices
[20:50] <duffydack> ZykoticK9,  I never bother with repo ffmpegs, they are horribly out of date and crippled
[20:50] <ZykoticK9> duffydack, "apt-cache policy libfaac0" shows ubuntu
[20:50] <erUSUL> ZykoticK9: ffmpeg -formats 2>/dev/null | grep aac --> EA    libfaac         libfaac AAC (Advanced Audio Codec)
[20:51] <jramsey> mek||malloc, no the garmin usb gps doesn't show up in an fdisk partition list
[20:51] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL,  D  aac             raw ADTS AAC
[20:51] <mek||malloc> jramsey: Ah, misunderstood.
[20:51] <BluesKaj> ^cheeky, let me rephrase that , grub will include windows in the boot menu , if you use the alternate install then the install procedure will ask you if you want o install grub and then it will ask if yo want windows included in the grub/boot menu
[20:52] <Doyle> Anyone here an airmiles member? I'm wondering if the site works well for other linux users.
[20:52] <duffydack> ZykoticK9, well all I did was add medibuntu, and install ffmpeg libavcodec-extra-52
[20:52] <erUSUL> ZykoticK9: that with medibuntu one i got three outputs. that one you paste the one i pasted and D A    aac             Advanced Audio Coding
[20:53] <guntbert> jramsey: have a look at /var/log/syslog   -- not everything shows up in dmesg in my experience
[20:53] <sensae> Figured it out if anyone is interested. Telepathy is the parent process.
[20:54] <mek||malloc> jramsey: There's a program called GpsDrive which may be able to identify the device.
[20:54] <BluesKaj> Doyle, probly depends on the browser
[20:54] <Doyle> BluesKaj: Both FF and Chrome - horrible slowness.
[20:55] <BluesKaj> Doyle, airmiles.com ?
[20:55] <ozzloy> mek||malloc, that didn't work either T_T
[20:55] <jramsey> guntbert, mek||malloc i get msgs in syslog like dmesg shows; it starts with "usb 4-1" but no /dev device. when i insert, e.g., a PharOs usb gps it shows in syslog a device like /dev/ttyUSB0
[20:55] <Doyle> BluesKaj: airmiles.ca
[20:57] <mek||malloc> ozzloy: If you can get to a command line, perhaps trying to update your graphics cards drivers?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> Doyle, hmm, a bit slow , maybe 3 secs here
[20:58] <Doyle> BluesKaj: ok thanks for checking. Must be me
[20:58] <mek||malloc> jramsey: I have an idea... Check your /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file
[20:58] <BluesKaj> Doyle, got flashplugin installed?
[20:58] <noatime> How do I turn off notifications in gnome?
[20:58] <constantin_mike> mek||malloc, ninjai thank you for your support. i'm rebooting my system to check if it worked
[20:58] <guntbert> jramsey: if I remember correctly it gets only assingned a /dev/tty... if the system recognizes it as something like a modem (there was this problem with 3G modems which appear as a CD on plug in)
[20:58] <mek||malloc> constantin_mike: Good luck
[20:58] <Doyle> BluesKaj: yep
[20:59] <mek||malloc> jramsey: I'd consider guntbert's comment, also make sure the device isn't blacklisted under /etc/modprob.d/blacklist (#comment out blacklist garmin_gps -- if it exists)
[20:59] <BluesKaj> hmm Doyle , i'm on bell dsl as well , seems ok to me
[20:59] <ThomasB2k> Are there any good GTD applications like Tasque or Getting Things GNOME that allow you to specify a time.
[21:00] <ThomasB2k> I've tried GTG and Tasque, but I can only set a date.
[21:00] <jramsey> mek||malloc, yeah i think i saw garmin in there but not sure why usb wouldn't recognize it unless the blacklist thing prevents it
[21:00] <jramsey> mek||malloc, if i comment out the black list line, do i have to restart anything?
[21:01] <Doyle> BluesKaj: Ahhh it is me. Man. Going to setup dual boot with XP now... Just because flash sucks under linux. The only downside for me.
[21:01] <_DGM_> Doyle: i have no problems with flash under linux (anymore)
[21:01] <Doyle> _DGM_: anymore?
[21:01] <_DGM_> it used to be crappy about a year ago but since i run karmic i have no problems
[21:01] <Doyle> _DGM_: what version of flash are you using?
[21:02] <_DGM_> Doyle: chrome build-in
[21:02] <BluesKaj> Doyle,  flash is fine here , sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer  ...see what happens
[21:02] <mek||malloc> jramsey: Good question. One second
[21:02] <_DGM_> i use google chrome which has flash build-in so that works fine anyway
[21:02] <jramsey> mek||malloc, that was it
[21:02] <jramsey> it's not ttyUSB0
[21:02] <undecim> When using strace on a certain program, I find the system call that I'm looking for, but instead of listing the arguements to the call, it just says "/* 40 vars */" Is there any way to see those arguments?
[21:02] <jramsey> now
[21:02] <mek||malloc> jramsey: I'm glad.
[21:02] <Doyle> BluesKaj: _DGM_ I'm under lucid. I've tried the newest flash .so files and it just doesn't fly for me
[21:03] <duffydack> Ive heard the chrome one built in is supposedly very good..
[21:03] <turt1e> noatime:  well the notifications are handled by notify-osd  you could always run a script to kill it on startup
[21:03] <mek||malloc> jramsey: Did you have to restart?
[21:03] <noatime> turt1e: ooh, good to know, thanks
[21:03] <white_magic> anyone here have an x-fi card?
[21:03] <jramsey> mek||malloc, no, just pulled the gps out and back in and it now assigns a tty dev; thanks a lot for your help
[21:03] <_DGM_> Doyle: you could try google chrome and see if its your pc/system or flash as a whole
[21:03] <_DGM_> Doyle: google chrome doesnt use the dynamic flash libs
[21:03] <MaJic_NinJa> to me google chrome beta works better with the flash
[21:03] <BluesKaj> Doyle, "newest flash" and that's from adobe website or the ubuntu repos ?
[21:04] <mek||malloc> jramsey: My pleasure. Happy gps hacking
[21:04] <turt1e> noatime:  check this link out if you just want to change the settings to make it less annoying http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/gui-to-configure-notifyosd-in-ubuntu.html
[21:04] <jramsey> mek||malloc, if you ever have the need to mess with gps beware ... they all have proprietary extensions and gpsd is a huge pain with certain devices
[21:04] <Doyle> _DGM_: BluesKaj: chrome is slightly better. I try the beta flashplayer.so files wehenver they're released
[21:04] <mek||malloc> jramsey: I'll keep that in mind. Sounds like hell.
[21:05] <jramsey> the gps protocol is a mess
[21:05] <BluesKaj> Doyle, flashplayer isn't a good idea, use the flashplugin installer from the repos or package manager
[21:06] <Doyle> BluesKaj: either way gives me about the same level of performance. Think a 2yo laptop with built-in intel gma graphics is just too slow?
[21:06] <white_magic> no one here has an x-fi card?
[21:07] <BluesKaj> Doyle, nope my acer laptop - elcheapo works fine with the flashplugin , I neber use the flashplayer proprietary apps
[21:07] <BluesKaj> neber-never
[21:07] <eax> Hi there - Is it possible to try out the new Unity-shell somehow?
[21:08] <Delvien> _DGM_ what version of chrome are you using?
[21:08] <MaJic_NinJa> white majic i have one but not on my ubuntu machine :(
[21:08] <Delvien> _DGM_: because my chrome internal flash doesnt work : (
[21:08] <Doyle> BluesKaj: well, that's good. I'm going to try a clean install and see what happens. Thanks BluesKaj _DGM_
[21:08] <_DGM_> Delvien: 5.0.375.126
[21:08] <white_magic> majic_ninja: i see
[21:08] <nikitis> Why would an ntfs mounted drive mount, but not show the file conents?
[21:09] <nikitis> It's not encrypted
[21:09] <BluesKaj> Doyle, no need for a clean install , just remove the flashplayer , then install from the repos
[21:09] <_DGM_> is there a working lucid chroot package? apparently karmic has a too old kernel-package
[21:09] <Doyle> BluesKaj: I'll try that first, thanks
[21:10] <Doyle> BluesKaj: I'm a big fan of clean installs  ;P
[21:10] <hiexpo> to old kernal
[21:11] <_DGM_> nevermind i think i got it
[21:11] <SamekhMem> hi all - I hope you can help me. I've got an ubuntu box set up with ntop and I'm going to be using it for traffic monitoring. only issue - i can't find my switch's web interface to set up port mirroring
[21:12] <SamekhMem> any ideas guys? please?
[21:12] <jramsey> mek||malloc, my test python script works ... thanks again
[21:12] <Atlas> SamekhMem, what kind of switch?
[21:12] <SamekhMem> Atlas: a dlink des-3010
[21:13] <Atlas> ¯\(°_o)/¯ sorry
[21:14] <SamekhMem> oh :(
[21:14] <Atlas> i dont even know what port mirroring is :D
[21:14] <LinuxFetus> Hey I am running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 32 bit and Windows XP on my laptop.  When I'm running Windows XP, my battery lasts for around 2 hours.  When I'm running Ubuntu, it's closer to an hour.  I just installed Ubuntu on a friend's computer that had XP and his Ubuntu lasted longer than his XP... I am trying to figure out what's different with his.  When I execute "top" I see compiz -- I'm thinking maybe the 3-d graphics are detrimental to
[21:14] <LinuxFetus> my battery life?  Any thoughts?  Thanks!
[21:14] <guntbert> SamekhMem: I'd say that question would get better answers in ##networking
[21:15] <mek||malloc> Cheers, I'm going to make some dinner. Back in a few.
[21:15] <Oer> LinuxFetus, 2 different laptops, 2 different state of battery.
[21:16] <Atlas> LinuxFetus, im curious, what processor is it? i know an atom +gma 945 has gigantically differing power modes
[21:16] <LinuxFetus> His is older than mine :X
[21:17] <_DGM_> you probably need some kernel module for your powersaving
[21:17] <Atlas> lenovo laptops in my experience have excelent battery life compared to others
[21:17] <LinuxFetus> Atlas: It's a Dell Inspriron 1300-something I think.  Mine's a HP Compaq nw8440.
[21:17] <Freeaqingme> Atlas, in fact, with windows 7 my battery lasts shorter than on ubuntu (lenovo t400)
[21:17] <Jordan_U> LinuxFetus: "powertop" is a good utility for determining what is using the most power.
[21:18] <LinuxFetus> I'
[21:18] <LinuxFetus> Jordan_U: I'm installing it right now... thanks.
[21:18] <Atlas> Freeaqingme, blasphemy!
[21:18] <Atlas> but completely rational
[21:18] <RingZer0> so, where is 'places' in the file system... see, i mounted a windows share
[21:18] <jramsey> Freeaqingme, lol that is a great comment
[21:19] <_DGM_> RingZer0: places?
[21:19] <RingZer0> And I would like to be able to access the files via ffmpeg
[21:19] <RingZer0> _DGM_: yeah, "places"
[21:19] <Atlas> i thought ffmpeg was a codec, not a protocol
[21:20] <guntbert> RingZer0: "places" is just a menu item
[21:20] <jramsey> ffmpeg is a converter/streamer
[21:20] <RingZer0> I right clicked on a windows share (samba from ubuntu-server), then mounted smb://rico/share
[21:20] <RingZer0> how can i access smb://rico/share via the shell or absolute path?
[21:20] <LinuxFetus> Jordan_U: Alright I'm running it.  http://pastebin.com/Yp4EZSna
[21:21] <c_oKIE> hi
[21:21] <rotham> hey... what are my choices for a windows emulator
[21:21] <_DGM_> hi
[21:22] <_DGM_> rotham: wine.
[21:22] <guntbert> RingZer0: try and type: mount
[21:22] <rotham> ok cool ill check it out
[21:22] <RingZer0> basically I want to mount a share
[21:22] <_DGM_> rotham: its pretty much your only *free* choise
[21:22] <LinuxFetus> _DGM_: Wine = Wine Is Not an Emulator
[21:22] <RingZer0> i've done it in centos via mount.nfs
[21:22] <c_oKIE> I have a continuing question...
[21:22] <rotham> :P
[21:22] <cannonfodder> hey you guys...in sound preferences, theres a change that keeps resetting...so i was wondering what file those preferences are saved to because i would like to edit it
[21:22] <_DGM_> LinuxFetus: ..
[21:22] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, what are your power mgmt preferences set to?
[21:22] <Atlas> it really isnt _DGM_
[21:22] <RingZer0> i got it
[21:23] <RingZer0> thanks guntbert , _DGM_
[21:23] <_DGM_> Atlas: i know.. but does it matter :P
[21:23] <RingZer0> i have to restart session and im not running screen.... :( brb guys.
[21:23] <darth_tux71> ok I have a slight annoyance I installed KDE but I cannot select it from the login screen
[21:23] <guntbert> LinuxFetus: chromium uses a lot of power (especially with flash on an open page)
[21:23] <_DGM_> Atlas: you answer questions with what he wants to know.. not with the exact facts
[21:23] <LinuxFetus> jramsey: System > Preferences >Power Management?
[21:23] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, yeah
[21:24] <darth_tux71> I used to be able to switch desktops on the fly from the login now there is no way to do it unless I am totally blind
[21:24] <LinuxFetus> jramsey: There's 3 tabs would you like the settings for each or just "On Battery Power."
[21:24] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, go thru those settings and sanity check them; battery power is the key
[21:25] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, it's coarse ...
[21:25] <c_oKIE> I am not sure if the #ubuntu proxy servers better to ask on but, I want to keep the ...\Documents and Settings\ Folder on a seperate partition for backing up purposes so C:/ has program files  and systems but I can backup just the docs and settings partition and wipe out where the os is stored
[21:25] <Oer> darth_tux71, did you reboot, after install KDE or logout ?
[21:25] <darth_tux71> loged out i have to reboot duh me sorry
[21:26] <c_oKIE> If I mount say partition W:/ to C:\Documents and Settings this does not store the folder on a seperate partition correct?
[21:26] <darth_tux71> i never think reboot unless i get a new kernel
[21:26] <LinuxFetus> jramsey: I have "Spin down hard disks when possible", "Reduce backlight brightness" "Dim display when Idle" all checked.
[21:26] <darth_tux71> ok rebooting ill be back =)
[21:26] <rooks> if i wanted to tunnel ldap via ssh, then what ports should i forward?
[21:26] <LinuxFetus> jramsey: I wouldn't be worried if it was like give or take a few minutes... but half the batter life than Windows tells me I may be doing something wrong.
[21:27] <Oer> darth_tux71 i'm not sure , logging out should be my first choice too.
[21:27] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, i wouldn't be too concerned about chrome ... here's something useful http://www.favbrowser.com/battery-life-internet-explorer-8-vs-firefox-3-5-vs-chrome-2-vs-opera-9-and-10-vs-safari-4/
[21:27] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, do you hear your disks spin down periodically?
[21:28] <LinuxFetus> jramsey: My disk isn't loud.  I've never really noticed it spinning unless I am copying large files.
[21:29] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, i can hear mine, but mine is a pos dell inspiron
[21:29] <bcbc2> LinuxFetus: have you looked at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9388766&postcount=31
[21:29] <LinuxFetus> jramsey: I have an HP business laptop...
[21:29] <jramsey> hps are way better than dell but you shouldn't have that much a diff in battery life
[21:29] <jramsey> something is going on
[21:30] <jramsey> LinuxFetus, => http://www.dvhardware.net/article38069.html
[21:30] <dogmatic69> hi all
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL, duffydack with non-free-codecs and libavcodec-extra-52 installed from medibuntu still getting "Unknown encoder 'libfaac'" from the simplest of ffmpeg commands (ffmpeg -i C-unETR_9J4.flv -acodec libfaac -vcodec copy -y output.mp4") as described in bug 374900.  I'm rebooting to test in Lucid now, had to laugh, 10.10's winff (GUI) really did fixed my bug/suggestion 527548 to remove MP4 as an output option, due to this "bug".
[21:31] <tasslehoff> !mplayer
[21:31] <dogmatic69> im having problems with apache giving me this when trying to start: Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
[21:31] <dogmatic69> cant figure out what it is
[21:32] <jramsey> dogmatic69, have you checked httpd.conf
[21:32] <Oer> !apache
[21:32] <debianix> greetings
[21:33] <dogmatic69> jramsey: tbh im a noob with *nix and related... fresh from m$
[21:33] <jramsey> dogmatic69, you installed apache right?
[21:33] <dogmatic69> i have checked it but would not know what is right or wrong
[21:33] <debianix> just wondering if anyone could help me out with evolution email client plz
[21:33] <dogmatic69> jramsey: ye it was working and then i restarted
[21:33] <debianix> just deleted my trash and forgot there was an important email in there
[21:34] <xmad> dogmatic69, ps -ef | grep apache
[21:34] <jramsey> dogmatic69, if you installed apache you are no longer a noob
[21:34] <xmad> paste output
[21:34] <debianix> is there a chance of retrieving it back
[21:34] <debianix> ? is there an extension in particular i should look out for?
[21:34] <Oer> edit /etc/apache2/apche2.conf ?
[21:34] <dogmatic69> jramsey: about 10 things
[21:34] <Seveas> debianix, look in your backups
[21:34] <LinuxFetus> Is there a linux utility that explains how power usage is being dissipated throughout one's machine?
[21:34] <spazmi> why do I get the following errors on my Torrentflux installation? - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/554kXGK9
[21:35] <jramsey> dogmatic69, google httpd.conf and check yours ... theres a bind address for it
[21:35] <spazmi> it still works but I get all these errors
[21:35] <dogmatic69> sorry, xmad 10ish things
[21:35] <d4c> Hardware Drivers Inquiry: I use an ATI Radeon X1650 Pro. In Ubuntu 8.04, I was notified that I could install restricted drivers for this hardware. I am now using Ubuntu 10.04, and anything with detailed graphic effects (games, compiz, etc.) lags. Are there any solutions for Ubuntu 10.04?
[21:35] <jramsey> but if it worked it shouldnt matter that you restarted
[21:35] <debianix> Seveas, if i had backup of my trash i wouldn't ask
[21:35] <xmad> dogmatic69, http://pastebin.com/
[21:36] <dogmatic69> jramsey: httpd.conf is empty, but /etc/apache2/sites-available/default has stuff
[21:36] <Poker> hi , i have problem with hdmi resolution , i plug my labtop to the lcd screen via hdmi but the resolution is not correct , my laptop dell inspiron dell laptop and video card is intel Graphics Media , and my os kubuntu 10.4
[21:37] <dogmatic69> xmad: http://pastebin.com/uA30nnbN
[21:38] <xmad> Poker, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[21:39] <Poker> xmad, thanks :)
[21:39] <xmad> dogmatic69, pkill apache and try starting it again
[21:39] <dogmatic69> xmad: it is working o.0
[21:40] <d4c> Hardware Drivers Inquiry: I use an ATI Radeon X1650 Pro. In Ubuntu 8.04, I was notified that I could install restricted drivers for this hardware. I am now using Ubuntu 10.04, and anything with detailed graphic effects (games, compiz, etc) lags. Are there any solutions for Ubuntu 10.04?
[21:40] <dogmatic69> xmad: even though the error is there it is working?
[21:41] <xmad> dogmatic69, if you get make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 it's because there is something else running that listens port 80
[21:42] <dogmatic69> that is what i thought
[21:42] <LinuxFetus> Atlas: Oh I'm sorry I forgot about your question!  I have an Intel Duo 2 Core T7600, 2.33 GHz
[21:42] <dogmatic69> and using a port scanner on 80 said free...
[21:42] <Atlas>  kk
[21:42] <dogmatic69> http://pastebin.com/RZCE8udu
[21:42] <dogmatic69> xmad: what you make of that ^
[21:42] <Atlas> LinuxFetus, i'd imagine its more of the chipset thats hogging power then
[21:42] <LinuxFetus> Atlas: What do you mean?
[21:43] <dogmatic69> xmad: i can browse localhost 100%, (phpmyadmin)
[21:43] <MaJic_NinJa> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/stupid-geek-tricks-watch-movies-in-your-linux-terminal-window/  this is pretty cool using your terminal
[21:44] <Atlas> LinuxFetus, all the integrated things like the north and south bus / graphics chip tend to use more power than modern laptop cpus when they are not throttled power-wise
[21:44] <LinuxFetus> bcbc2: The link to the bug you gave me appears to be of the same series of processors that I have.  (T7600 instead of T6500).  Additionally, the "[kernel scheduler] Load balancing tick" thing is high on my powertop readout.
[21:44] <LinuxFetus> Atlas: Oh.  How does one throttle these things?
[21:44] <Atlas> but powertop probably tells you more information than that. also no idea. maybe kernel modules?
[21:45] <Atlas> i dont understand that concept though, or where to find them
[21:46] <LinuxFetus> Atlas: So I may have to modify my kernel?
[21:46] <debianix> :/
[21:46] <debianix> anyone ?
[21:46] <xmad> dogmatic69,
[21:46] <xmad> dogmatic69, try to run those same commands but using sudo
[21:46] <Atlas> LinuxFetus, not recompile or something that major, but if i understand it right, it should be as simple as plopping a .ko file somewhere
[21:47] <Oer> debianix, no, deleted trash is gone :(
[21:47] <djshotglass> anyone know of a command line download manager (https) that uses multiple connections to get the file?
[21:47] <Atlas> but i'd ask someone else, because im probably spewing nonsense right now
[21:47] <debianix> :/
[21:47] <xmad> dogmatic69, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop        sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[21:47] <d4c> Hardware Drivers Inquiry: I use an ATI Radeon X1650 Pro. In Ubuntu 8.04, I was notified that I could install restricted drivers for this hardware. I am now using Ubuntu 10.04, and anything with detailed graphic effects (games, compiz, etc) lags. Are there any solutions for Ubuntu 10.04?
[21:47] <duffydack> playing movies with ascii plugin is old news.
[21:47] <LinuxFetus> Atlas: I've never messed with my kernel before.  I do need to leave though.  Hopefully some of you will be back on as I try to sort this thing out (I just remembered that I get a "System failed to hibernate" message every time my battery gets critically low.  Additionally... I get laptop battery low messages every few seconds... :/)
[21:48] <debianix> Oer, what file does it store the imap emails to ?
[21:48] <debianix> in evolution ?
[21:48] <sailerboy> hey, if i have a user account (craig) which doesnt have access to the killall command, but i want it to be able to launch a script that contains "killall supybot" or "kill -9 `pgrep supybot`", how would i do that?
[21:48] <debianix> ? .evolution/mail/imap/user_name ?
[21:49] <sailerboy> im sure i have to edit visudo
[21:49] <sailerboy> also d4c, you should be able to install restricted drivers with 10.04
[21:49] <bcbc2> LinuxFetus:  that link had some other links to workarounds.
[21:49] <sailerboy> i believe it's under administrative
[21:49] <i2c>  look at how freaking gay ubuntu is, I click on places, and instead of, downloads, music, and those other folders, I get 'version="1.0"?>' and stuff like 'name=currentmtime' and other crap, windows has never renamed stuff for me, and when I click on them it throws me an error  message, so it doesn't even work!
[21:49] <c_oKIE> Ok let me put my question like this, if partition, G: ( a log drive )  is mounted to W: ( a primary partition ), this doesnt mean that if G is deleted W: still points to the data does it
[21:49] <rww> i2c: "Gay" is not a pejorative. Don't use it as one.
[21:50] <i2c> ubuntu is trash I'll put it that way
[21:50] <sailerboy> ic2, no one is forcing you to use it
[21:50] <sailerboy> but i think that it somehow got corrupted
[21:50] <Muscovy> i2c: Why are you coming here to tell us this?
[21:50] <sailerboy> it can happen with windows as well
[21:50] <i2c> would someone help me fix it?
[21:50] <d4c> sailerboy, indeed you can. but, should the operating system notify me as to which ones are available?
[21:50] <sailerboy> there should be 1 availible
[21:50] <sailerboy> afaik
[21:50] <i2c> no windows doesn't change the start menu text, or it hasn't in the multiple years I'm using it
[21:51] <kevinSJ> I need some help. Is it possible to open a SWF for editing in Ubuntu?
[21:51] <sieson> I am trying to change my laptop's brightness from the terminal but I keep getting permission denied! Anyone know what I should do?
[21:51] <sailerboy> ubuntu hasnt changed it for me in the multiple years i have been using it, and windows have
[21:51] <kevinSJ> Like a .SWF extracter?
[21:51] <i2c> well you know what
[21:51] <kevinSJ> Need to modify it a bit
[21:51] <i2c> can someone help me fix this or do I need to reinstall ubuntu *again*
[21:52] <Muscovy> i2c: Could you describe what's wrong in more detail?
[21:52] <i2c> let me get a camera and show you because, I don't know if it's ubuntu's fault or my laptops, I can't click on 'applications' or 'places' and take a screenshot
[21:52] <sailerboy> type scrot in the terminal i2c
[21:52] <sailerboy> "scrot"
[21:52] <sailerboy> and in your home folder, you should see a screen shot
[21:53] <Muscovy> Press "print screen" on your keyboard.
[21:53] <sailerboy> or that
[21:53] <sailerboy> that works
[21:53] <i2c> I did it doesn't work
[21:53] <Muscovy> WHich method?
[21:54] <sieson> any help for my problem?  sudo echo -n 7 > /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness says permission denied... Why is that?
[21:54] <i2c> oh darn you are right
[21:54] <i2c> so i just got my camera for nothing, rubbish
[21:54] <Muscovy> sieson: It's because you're running sudo on the first command only.
[21:54] <rww> sieson: because the shell redirection is happening with your user's permissions. Try echo -n 7 | sudo tee /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[21:54] <MaJic_NinJa> sieson can you as sudo?
[21:55] <Muscovy> sieson: I think it's command | sudo tee file
[21:55] <i2c> http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1356/screenshotsi.png
[21:55] <sieson> rww: thanks a lot bud.. fixed :D
[21:56] <Muscovy> i2c: DO you know what version of Ubuntu you are running?
[21:56] <Muscovy> do*
[21:56] <i2c> ugh now I just messed up xchat, the panel on the left is gone
[21:56] <i2c> 10.04
[21:56] <dogmatic69> xmad: ye that works, no errors :)
[21:56] <edbian> i2c, view
[21:56] <dogmatic69> thanks for the help
[21:56] <xmad> dogmatic69, no proble, get used to use sudo a lot
[21:56] <Muscovy> Hmm.
[21:56] <i2c> now what edbian
[21:57] <dominicdinada> how to force ubuntu to take any password i set ?
[21:57] <dominicdinada> 10.04
[21:57] <dogmatic69> xmad: should i just use it *all* the time?
[21:57] <Muscovy> i2c: What happens with you click the weird text under your bookmarks there?
[21:57] <Seveas> dominicdinada, set it as root. You can't make it set passwords with less than 6 characters though.
[21:57] <xmad> dogmatic69, it's not always needed, but for some admin stuff it's needed
[21:57] <i2c> could not display 'part of the line of code' nautilus can't find that area
[21:58] <i2c> or that location whatever
[21:58] <xmad> dogmatic69, for example, starting apache needs to be run with sudo
[21:58] <dominicdinada> no i have 6 random characters it was my old pw i just changed today due to a keyboard input driver failure so i changed it to another and now i was to set it back and i keep getting to simple
[21:58] <i2c> hold on I have to reinstall xchat I'll be back in a second
[21:58] <xmad> dogmatic69, pretty much if you see an output saying "permission denied" try using the same command but with sudo
[21:59] <dominicdinada> Seveas: no i have 6 random characters it was my old pw i just changed today due to a keyboard input driver failure so i changed it to another and now i was to set it back and i keep getting to simple
[21:59] <MaJic_NinJa> Sudo is one of the first commands that i learn
[22:00] <dogmatic69> xmad: cool thanks (i just jumped winblows today)
[22:01] <dogmatic69> had ubuntu in a vm and dual boot for a bit, but not much
[22:01] <dogmatic69> now its 100% :P
[22:01] <th0r> dominicdinada: I'm not sure, it's been a long time, but I think it wont let you change to an old password...not one of the last six passwords you have used if I remember right. Try another six random characters...I bet that woudl work
[22:01] <i2c> ok I'm back
[22:01] <xmad> dogmatic69, No problem, it's confusing at first but you'll get used in no time, after a couple months you'll forget how to use windows.
[22:01] <Muscovy> i2c: So what happens when you click that problem text?
[22:01] <xmad> dogmatic69, after all windows is an addiction, it takes time to get over it.
[22:01] <dogmatic69> xmad: ye... ive been a php dev for ~5 years so figured i should move
[22:02] <c_oKIE> So If I do want to backup data on my computer seperate from the OS with the System files and program Files in C:\... I could mount a partition like W: to C:\Documents and Settings and if I wanted to delete the os I could delete C:\ and W would still point to the data "stored atg Documents and Settings
[22:02] <i2c> I already told you, it says 'cannot find location 'versionstring=1'' or whatever the weird code is
[22:02] <c_oKIE> So If I do want to backup data on my computer seperate from the OS with the System files and program Files in C:\... I could mount a partition like W: to C:\Documents and Settings and if I wanted to delete the os I could delete C:\ and W would still point to the data "stored atg Documents and Settings"?
[22:02] <dominicdinada> th0r: not an option. as i need to keep it in sync with  7 other computers and the effin keyring pops up about 20 times every login still using said password
[22:02] <dogmatic69> so much coolness with *nix when you are actualy developing something to run on *nix
[22:02] <c_oKIE> Is this a wacky thing to do?
[22:02] <xmad> i2c, do this
[22:02] <xmad> i2c, log on with another user
[22:02] <edbian> dogmatic69, Yes there is!
[22:03] <xmad> i2c, and check if you have the same problem with nautilus
[22:03] <rww> ubottu: windows | c_oKIE
[22:03] <i2c> another user, I don'tk now if I have any
[22:03] <Muscovy> xmad: I think he could just remove it with the right-click menu.
[22:03] <i2c> oh I can roll the guest
[22:03] <dogmatic69> imo ubuntu10 looks better than vista as well :)
[22:03] <Muscovy> i2c: Is there a remove option when you right-click the text?
[22:03] <dominicdinada> root = godlike except for stupid linux owns root. Good to know i am much more in control over a linux machine than a windows machine ^^ NOT
[22:03] <sporkboy> okay, so, say I want to install on a drive out of another computer that's currently plugged into mine, but want it installed for that computer (like... oem style). is there a good way to do that?
[22:04] <th0r> dominicdinada: http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/wiki/Linux_Password_Policy
[22:04] <i2c> no the problem does not happen on the guest! let me check for the remove
[22:04] <i2c> no, it says operation not supported
[22:04] <xmad> i2c
[22:04] <xmad> you have to log in console
[22:04] <xmad> and delete .gnome .gnome2
[22:04] <dominicdinada> th0r: so the policy is also to nagg 20 times with keyring popups also
[22:05] <xmad> one sec let me link you a thread that solves that
[22:05] <th0r> dominicdinada: that says the old password limit is disabled by default. It does give you a place to start though
[22:05] <xmad> i2c, take a look on this http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[22:05] <xmad> Maybe you tweaked something that broke nautilus somehow.
[22:05] <Muscovy> I would've backed them up, delete them.
[22:06] <Muscovy> not delete them*
[22:06] <spazmi> why do I get the following errors on my Torrentflux installation? - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/554kXGK9
[22:06] <spazmi> :)
[22:09] <nikitis> Guys, i need some help with this drive.  It's a USB Seagate Freeagent drive.  It's NTFS, files are accessible from Windows box, When mounted onto ubuntu, it says it mounts correctly, but there is no file contents.  They are there.  What am I doing wrong?
[22:10] <i2c> son of a mother it didn't work
[22:10] <xmad> i2c, is there a folder named .nautilus in your home folder?
[22:10] <dominicdinada> Simple answer is to shell and force the password via command line. for anybody who needs it in the future
[22:10] <i2c> it reset my theme but not those folders
[22:10] <i2c> how do I check again? ls?
[22:11] <d3vic3> nikitis: what "sudo mount" gives?
[22:11] <i2c> yes ls -a yields a .nautilus
[22:11] <xmad> rename that folder
[22:11] <xmad> or delete
[22:11] <i2c> to?
[22:11] <nikitis> d3vic3, /dev/sdb1 on /home/nikitis/Freeagent type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[22:11] <xmad> and restart nautilus
[22:12] <Muscovy> ic2: Doesn't matter what you call it.
[22:12] <i2c> sudo rename .nautilus .nautilus1 doesn't work
[22:12] <d3vic3> nikitis: ls ~/Freeagent lists nothing!
[22:12] <i2c> syntax error at
[22:12] <nikitis> d3vic3, correct.
[22:12] <xmad> i2c, sudo cp .nautilus nautilus1
[22:12] <dominicdinada>  brb gonna make sure the crappy keyring and my login credentials dont cause 20 popups at login
[22:12] <nikitis> d3vic3, but when i plug it onto the windows box, it's all there
[22:12] <Seveas> i2c, mv .nautilus .nautilus1
[22:12] <Seveas> i2c, rename uses different syntax
[22:12] <i2c> ok done
[22:12] <i2c> now what
[22:12] <stercor> What's a simple way to set up a LAN?
[22:13] <aeon-ltd> stercor: router + ethernet cables, what do you mean?
[22:13] <xmad> i2c, close nautilus and open it agian
[22:13] <xmad> again*
[22:13] <dominicdinada> stercor: ummmmmmm this is an ubuntu channel not a hardware networking support channel + what aeon said
[22:13] <i2c> how
[22:13] <nikitis> d3vic3, wait wth.  It's showing up now?!
[22:13] <xmad> sudo pkill nautilus
[22:13] <Muscovy> stercor: A LAN is Local Area Network. Do you need router help or something similar?
[22:13] <nikitis> d3vic3, I've done ls in that directory like 100 times
[22:14] <stercor> aeon-ltd: wireless, no ethernet cables, perhaps a Windows machine.  Samba for all?
[22:14] <nikitis> d3vic3, why is it now showing up?
[22:14] <aeon-ltd> stercor: i still don't get what you mean
[22:14] <d3vic3> nikitis: sudo fdisk -l
[22:14] <dominicdinada> aeon-ltd: he asked incorrectly he wants to setup a file/print server not just a lan :O
[22:15] <nikitis> d3vic3, wait i may have solved my issue thanks to you
[22:15] <aeon-ltd> dominicdinada: oh ok
[22:15] <stercor> aeon-ltd: I want to share files between two computers and have a wireless LAN.
[22:15] <aeon-ltd> stercor: yeah samba will be fine
[22:15] <stercor> k
[22:15] <d3vic3> nikitis: and what was wrong?
[22:15] <nikitis> d3vic3, doing ls on the /Freeagent folder, reveals it's owned by root, but i have no idea how that could happen.  I did a mkdir as nikitis
[22:16] <zatan> how can i find out whats Video and Audio device names?
[22:16] <nikitis> d3vic3, with no sudo
[22:16] <pietime> I'm using Lubuntu with Thunar. Does anyone know how to get SAMBA working with Thunar without installing several extra dependencies?I'm using Lubuntu with Thunar. Does anyone know how to get SAMBA working with Thunar without installing several extra dependencies?
[22:17] <i2c> no it didn't work, my theme and background and all of that, my icons, all back to stock, but the folders names are still messed up
[22:17] <d3vic3> nikitis:  /dev/sdb1 on /home/nikitis/Freeagent type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[22:17] <d3vic3> nikitis: because of "allow_other"
[22:17] <d3vic3> nikitis: in fuseblk options
[22:17] <nikitis> d3vic3, that made it root?
[22:18] <d3vic3> nikitis: no, that made it possible to create a folder without being root
[22:18] <dominicdinada> pietime: that most likely would be a question you ask in #samba since neither are Ubuntu. and lubuntu isn't even ubuntu
[22:18] <i2c> xmad are you there
[22:18] <dominicdinada> !lubuntu
[22:18] <d3vic3> nikitis: try a sudo ls on Freeagent
[22:18] <xmad> i2c, yes, what did you do with .nautilus folder again?
[22:18] <i2c> mv
[22:18] <nikitis> d3vic3, okay wait, I just umounted it, and Freeagent folder is owned by nikitis now?
[22:18] <nikitis> d3vic3, what is going on here
[22:19] <pietime> yeah dominicdinada, please clarify yourself
[22:19] <pietime> that didnt make much sense sorry
[22:19] <hbaw> I recently reinstalled 9.04 and now i do not have an option to enable nvidia drivers from my hardware list? where do i do this?
[22:19] <syncftps> anyone know how to sync a public ftp every X minutes in Ubuntu?
[22:19] <dominicdinada> Lubuntu is as different as Kubuntu and Ubuntu and last i checked neither kubuntu or lubuntu are supported in this channel as each has there own channels
[22:20] <xmad> syncftps, create a cron job
[22:20] <pietime> dominicdinada, i was told lubuntu _is_ suported in this channel by several ops
[22:20] <d3vic3> nikitis: not exactly but i think there was a double mount on that folder
[22:20] <syncftps> xmad: is there a program that will sync the ftp?
[22:20] <kreeper> i'm looking for a webserver to run off of ubuntu 10.04 lts, which package would be best if i need php, cgi-bin, sql databases, webmail accounts, and ftp accounts?
[22:20] <nikitis> d3vic3, I have an fstab entry
[22:20] <d3vic3> nikitis: that says?
[22:21] <edbian> kreeper, apache and lighttpd are both good webservers than can do all of that stuff.
[22:21] <xmad> i2c, delete .nautilus completly
[22:21] <nikitis> d3vic3, UUID=15C86054380070A1   /home/nikitis/Freeagent           ntfs    defaults       0        0
[22:21] <dominicdinada> pietime: then i stand corrected that each flavor of ubuntu. kubuntu, lubuntu. Server.... all supported in this channel and each don't have their own support channels
[22:21] <kreeper> edbian: ok thx
[22:21] <edbian> kreeper, Of course you need an ftp server to have ftp and an email server to do email.
[22:21] <xmad> i2c, first close nautius with sudo pkill nautilus
[22:21] <xmad> i2c, then delete folder
[22:21] <edbian> kreeper, A webserver alone cannot do those 2
[22:21] <Roasted> 1.5ghz single core proc and 1gb ram should be enough to push Ubuntu, right? For some reason I'm having insane delays when doing simple things, such as clicking on an item in the menu and it taking a solid 4-8 secods to respond
[22:21] <pietime> I'm using Lubuntu with Thunar. Does anyone know how to get SAMBA working with Thunar without installing several extra dependencies?
[22:21] <xmad> i2c, start nautilus again
[22:21] <edbian> kreeper, Oh and of course you need mySQL to have a SQL server.
[22:22] <nikitis> d3vic3, blkid says that is the UUID of the freeagent drive
[22:22] <edbian> kreeper, That's a pretty tall order BTW
[22:22] <mgolisch> anyone use pulseaudio with remote/network sinks?
[22:22] <i2c> nope no good
[22:22] <edbian> kreeper, Configuring all of those things is going to take some time and a lot of know-how.
[22:22] <xmad> why does it says compiz anyway
[22:22] <syncftps> is there a program that will sync the ftps in Ubuntu?
[22:22] <i2c> when I pkilled nautilus I didn't drop to a command line, is that normal?
[22:22] <mgolisch> its unbearably lagging with wireless, does it work for anyone over a wireless connection?
[22:22] <xmad> i2c, since when did that problem start happening
[22:22] <i2c> since like yesterday
[22:23] <sporkboy> any ideas on doing an install on a drive that'll be going in a different computer?
[22:23] <nikitis> d3vic3, if an entry is added to fstab, is something else also trying to mount it?
[22:24] <kreeper> edebian: yaeh i'm gonna have alot of work to do, lol, is there a manual i can get that will help with that, or should i just read the man page?
[22:24] <syncftps> also, any reason #ubuntu is not working for unregistered users (except through web gateways)?
[22:24] <d4a> I am having an issue with my accelerated graphics driver. Information is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1557356
[22:24] <i2c> I don't remember installing something or triggering it, it just happened from what I remember (I know SOMETHING triggered it though)
[22:24] <edbian> kreeper, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers
[22:24] <d3vic3> nikitis: nop
[22:25] <kreeper> edebian: thx again
[22:25] <nikitis> d3vic3, what can i put under options in fstab to make it mount as user nikitis?
[22:25] <edbian> syncftps, It helps cut down on spammers / trolls and such I assume.  It's supposed to be that way.
[22:26] <syncftps> edbian: its a temporarily insane implementation, right?
[22:26] <nikitis> d3vic3, or at least accessible?  Can i chown nikitis.nikitis ~/Freeagent after mounting?
[22:26] <edbian> syncftps, The registering?  I don't know.  Ask an op.
[22:26] <d4a> I am having an issue with my accelerated graphics driver. Information is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1557356
[22:27] <rww> syncftps: my explanation wasn't clear :)?
[22:27] <dominicdinada> sporkboy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223614
[22:27] <syncftps> anyone know a program in Ubuntu to sync a public ftp every X minutes? @rww: i wanted to ensure its temporary, but it can be bypassed through web interfaces
[22:27] <rww> syncftps: as I said, yes, it's temporary
[22:27] <segaloco> hey, me again :X okay, i have a very .. odd question this time
[22:28] <rww> syncftps: I wasn't aware webchat users could get in here anyway until after we first talked
[22:28] <edbian> syncftps, Just write up a bash script using wget
[22:28] <segaloco> could i chroot into my ubuntu hard drive from a live cd to alter packages if they have the same kernel version and the package im trying to alter is the same?
[22:28] <syncftps> rww: they have to captcha and do a command told to them in the temp room
[22:28] <d3vic3> nikitis: not necessary, just try something like this in fstab :  UUID=youruuid   yourmedia    ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=0222    0       0
[22:28] <dominicdinada> sporkboy: I did that as well as my server doesnt have a dvdrom on it or bootable from usb. There are also alot more steps then are listed but i can not seem to find the post i used
[22:28] <pietime> I'm using Lubuntu with Thunar. Does anyone know how to get SAMBA working with Thunar without installing several extra dependencies? I've tried this page but the PPA is 404 not found. https://launchpad.net/~danielmorales/+archive/ppa/
[22:28] <segaloco> (im trying to fix/remove plymouth, killed my bootup :/)
[22:29] <segaloco> well, specifically libplymouth
[22:29] <d3vic3> nikitis: save fstab, unmount the volume than remount it with sudo mount yourmedia
[22:29] <sporkboy> dominicdinada, thanks!
[22:29] <nikitis> d3vic3, that will mount the files as nikitis owns them and not root?
[22:30] <d3vic3> nikitis: no, but at least you'll have full access to it
[22:31] <VCoolio> pietime: I think you need version 1.1 for samba support
[22:32] <d3vic3> nikitis: another point, yourmountpoint would be clearer than yourmedia :)
[22:32] <xmad> i2c, well your nautilus is clearly broken, and it says compiz on it..
[22:32] <xmad> i2c, sorry I have to get back to work :(
[22:32] <pietime> VCoolio, version 1.1 of what??
[22:32] <VCoolio> pietime: of thunar
[22:32] <segaloco> or is what im trying to do black magic :X
[22:33] <dogmatic69> could someone tell me what is the correct format to make a site like mysite.dev point to 127.0.0.1 in hosts file plz
[22:33] <xmad> dogmatic69, 127.0.0.1 mysite.dev
[22:34] <pietime> VCoolio, ok how do you upgrade?
[22:34] <sporkboy> dominicdinada, so basically, oem install from the installer to the usb drive using this computer should work?
[22:34] <dogmatic69> xmad: thanks
[22:35] <VCoolio> pietime: there is an xfce repository you can add, but I'm not sure if it has 1.1, also I'm not sure if it's 1.0 or 1.1 that introduced samba; I compiled a git version
[22:36] <darth_tux71> KDE wiped my system
[22:36] <pietime> VCoolio, i want to avoid all the xfce dependencies if possible, how can i do that/
[22:37] <darth_tux71> in sabayon
[22:38] <dominicdinada> sporkboy: when i set mine up like yourself i had to manually create partitions for the primary and swap. and since it is going to be installed into a machine as a primary drive i needed to manually set the uuids for the boot,primary,swap by hand. except i forget the exact steps. I pointed you to whom i suggested you ask
[22:38] <VCoolio> pietime: ok, you need 1.1; also there are dependencies involved of course; you can't do without, unless you mount network shares in another way and browse to them with your current thunar; http://j1m.net/2010/01/09/thunar-1-1-0-native-support-for-remote-filesystems/
[22:38] <nikitis> d3vic3, trying it now on a reboot
[22:39] <divecks> hey guys, I can't connect to this samba server I have. I know sambas running on the box, and I know the drives are all connected and that samba is configured correctly. But I can't get to it in nautilus either by GUI or by smb://1337666404.ath.cx in the location bar. What steps can I take to troubleshoot?
[22:40] <pietime> VCoolio, i cant find 1.1 here http://thunar.xfce.org/download.html
[22:40] <nikitis> d3vic3, Hey it won't mount on boot!  It mounts though when I do a sudo mount -a
[22:41] <segaloco> anyone D:
[22:41] <segaloco> is chroot an option to alter debs on ANOTHER install wiht the same kernel and version of the software you are altering
[22:43] <JuJuBee> I just did fresh install of 10.04 on a box that sits between my home network and my cable modem but cant get both ethernet interfaces up.
[22:43] <segaloco> oh well, gonna go try it, ill be back if it doesnt work though :X
[22:43] <VCoolio> pietime: I got it from here; you'll have to compile some xfce stuff first though if you want it too; I doubt if there is a .deb file for it
[22:44] <VCoolio> pietime: http://git.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/
[22:44] <hello0> hi guys
[22:44] <Monaco> O_O
[22:44] <Jordan_U> segaloco: Yes, you can install / remove packages from within a chroot.
[22:45] <JuJuBee> My /etc/network/interfaces is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/481152/
[22:45] <JuJuBee> Anyone help?
[22:45] <darth_tux71> ok dumb question time how do I change my time in cli
[22:46] <d3vic3> nikitis: what's in /etc/mtab?
[22:46] <JuJuBee> darth_tux71 man date
[22:46] <guampa> darth_tux71: date
[22:46] <Poker>  hi , i have problem with hdmi resolution , i plug my labtop to the lcd screen via hdmi but the resolution is not correct my  taskbar out of sight! , my laptop dell inspiron dell laptop and video card is intel Graphics Media , and my os kubuntu 10.4
[22:46] <darth_tux71> thanks its just been oh forever since i have had to
[22:46] <JuJuBee> np
[22:46] <nikitis> d3vic3, /dev/sdb1 /home/nikitis/Freeagent fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions 0 0
[22:47] <dogmatic69> xmad: i have 127.0.0.1 admin.dev in hosts but its still redirecting to www.admin.dev 404
[22:47] <VCoolio> pietime: or use pcmanfm2, is default for lubuntu anyway and also has samba support nowadays
[22:47] <nikitis> d3vic3, i haven't done a sudo mount -a yet, and there's nothing in the Freeagent folder.  if I try to sudo umount /dev/sdb1 it says drive not mounted
[22:47] <slow-motion> n8
[22:48] <dogmatic69> xmad: nvm i was editing 'host' :/
[22:48] <JuJuBee> Anyone help with networking?
[22:48] <xmad> !ask | JuJuBee
[22:49] <JohnTeddy> I accidentally removed the sound from my panel I believe.
[22:49] <JuJuBee> xmad:  see my post above... already supplied details
[22:49] <JohnTeddy> When I right click to add to panel, i don't see sound listed anywhere. How do I add it back?
[22:50] <darth_tux71> omfg i cant figure this out what is wrong with me
[22:50] <earthling_> which is the fastest,lightest ubuntu desktop environment, xfce,mint,or lubuntu?
[22:50] <xmad> JuJuBee, sorry my bad
[22:50] <Poker> lol drink coffee
[22:51] <JuJuBee> np
[22:51] <VCoolio> earthling_: lubuntu, then xfce, then mint
[22:51] <xmad> let me take a look
[22:51] <d3vic3> nikitis: when you open nautilus, nothing happens? (i assume you're using gnome!)
[22:51] <darth_tux71> ok i give up nothing I am doing will set the time
[22:51] <earthling_> ok
[22:51] <nikitis> d3vic3, all it does is go into the Freeagent directory, but no files
[22:52] <Poker>  hi , i have problem with hdmi resolution , i plug my labtop to the lcd screen via hdmi but the resolution is not correct my  taskbar out of sight! , my laptop dell inspiron dell laptop and video card is intel Graphics Media , and my os kubuntu 10.4
[22:52] <coz_> earthling_,  surprisingly  edubuntu is also fast with gnome DE
[22:52] <coz_> earthling_,   I recently swtiched because of the speed it offered as well as both kde and gnome applications
[22:53] <zerwas> Is there a more elegant way than entering the wrong password to cancel the password prompt in console?
[22:53] <th0r> zerwas: just hit return
[22:53] <tschundeee> hey guys... I have just installed ubuntu 10.04 on an old notebook with centrino 1,7 (single core) and 2gb ram... would it be better to install the netbook edition from a performance point of view?
[22:53] <Jordan_U> zerwas: ctrl+c
[22:54] <nikitis> d3vic3, When i open nautilus, there's nothing in the drive, and it says up top 750 GB Filesystem, which also appears to show up in the left menu.
[22:54] <rww> tschundeee: there isn't a performance difference between them that I've noticed
[22:54] <dogmatic69> tschundeee: i just installed 10.04 on a easynote 2gh + 2gig ram and it runs A+
[22:54] <zerwas> th0r> that's just like a wrong password ;)
[22:54] <aeon-ltd> tschundeee: no, the only way you can net speed gains is by not using compiz and using a lighter WM instead of gnome, and disabling unncessary background processes
[22:54] <darth_tux71> got it
[22:55] <darth_tux71> date -s "20 AUG 2010 15:54:00"
[22:55] <nikitis> d3vic3, there's nothing in the folder i mean.  but nautilus seems to think I'm in 750 GB Folder.
[22:55] <nikitis> d3vic3, although, Freespace is indicating 32 GB's
[22:55] <_DGM_> tschundeee: netbook edition and the "real" version dont make much difference to me speedwise. Only the interface is different. Though i have a custom atom kernel instead of the standard one
[22:55] <tschundeee> aeon-ltd: can the appearance be adjusted to look like netbook or do I have to reinstall netbook version in order to get the nice starter bar?
[22:56] <raiffa> is there a way to only mirror parts of the ubuntu apt repositories? I have several dozen nodes in a cluster I want to update from a master node, but I can't mirror the entire apt repositories (at 30+GB) b/c we only have a T1.
[22:56] <_DGM_> in fact.. the netbook interface ran a bit crappy for me on my netbook
[22:56] <tschundeee> something like "apt-get install netbook-appearance" :D?
[22:56] <dogmatic69> tschundeee: my cpu is 10% and ram at 500mb with swap 0mb and i have 2 panes full of things and it still responds instantly
[22:56] <aeon-ltd> tschundeee: it uses a app to get the look on unr(the easy interface anyway) and just a different (graphically) set up gnome
[22:57] <tschundeee> dogmatic69: u use hardware accelerated graphics?
[22:57] <dogmatic69> when i was on vista i would be making coffee between switching tabs
[22:57] <d3vic3> nikitis: there must something wrong with the filesystem that confuses fuseblk
[22:57] <ezy> hi. is it possible to use the kde4 librariers to compile without having to install the kde desktop ?
[22:57] <_DGM_> its a good idea to build a custom kernel though.. for example if you have an intel atom. it does make a difference
[22:57] <dogmatic69> tschundeee: idk :P im a noob
[22:57] <d3vic3> nikitis: what sudo fdisk -l gives?
[22:57] <_DGM_> dogmatic69: but vista is a terrible example :P windows 7 would probably run fine
[22:57] <nikitis> d3vic3, /dev/sdb1               1       91201   732572001    7  HPFS/NTFS
[22:58] <tschundeee> dogmatic69: hehe 512mb of ram... hmm that could be nice for server edition but for desktop...
[22:58] <tschundeee> hmm
[22:58] <dogmatic69> _DGM_ well i paid £200 for vista, so im not paying another £200 for win7
[22:58] <xmad> tschundeee, why not you use xfce?
[22:58] <_DGM_> dogmatic69: just saying :) vista is/was a terrible fail
[22:58] <dogmatic69> tschundeee: i have 2gig... only 500mb used
[22:58] <_DGM_> dogmatic69: in fact, windows 7 runs much better then windows xp on my eee netbook
[22:59] <dogmatic69> _DGM_: i dont think so... yes its ram hungry but apartfrom that its pretty good
[22:59] <nikitis> d3vic3, http://fpaste.org/agGT/
[22:59] <aeon-ltd> dogmatic69: dude win7 is not £200
[22:59] <_DGM_> dogmatic69: i've tested vista from the start.. i *know* how horrible it is :P
[22:59] <_DGM_> and i think you can buy a windows 7 upgrade version aswell which are cheaper
[22:59] <tschundeee> _DGM_: but win7 uses roughly around 20gb of diskspace in the 64bit version... not good for my macbook pro with 120gb ssd and triple boot (xp, ubuntu & osx)
[22:59] <dogmatic69> aeon-ltd: depends where you come from hey :P
[23:00] <_DGM_> tschundeee: nope.. my netbook's ssd only has 12 gb or so. It uses around 5-8gb
[23:00] <tschundeee> _DGM_: I talked about the 64bit version
[23:00] <tschundeee> that takes around 17gb
[23:00] <d3vic3> nikitis: try mounting manually : sudo mount /dav/sdb1 mountpoint
[23:00] <xmad> !windows
[23:00] <dogmatic69> _GDM_: i have also used vista since it was leaked
[23:01] <_DGM_> tschundeee: let me check :) i have it on here
[23:01] <d3vic3> nikitis: you're using ubuntu or fedora?
[23:01] <white_magic> how can i make it so in ubuntu, i have the directory path written instead of the 'breadcrumbs'?
[23:01] <nikitis> d3vic3, ubuntu.  mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /home/nikitis/Freeagent
[23:02] <_DGM_> dogmatic69: i had official microsoft beta's.. no leaks. One of them had a terrible bug with subfolders.. it completely wrecked my mp3 collection back then
[23:02] <tschundeee> _DGM_: yeah tell me the size... I was thinking of putting it up instead of xp for gaming but the basic footprint is too big
[23:02] <nikitis> d3vic3, i just used fpaste cause i couldn't remember the ubuntu paster lol
[23:02] <dogmatic69> _DGM_: first impressions :P
[23:02] <nikitis> d3vic3, mtab says it's already mounted
[23:02] <nikitis> d3vic3, but when I go into that directory, there's nothing...
[23:03] <tschundeee> dogmatic69: stick to ubuntu and be happy
[23:03] <_DGM_> tschundeee: yea its a full installed system :P not really a fair comparision
[23:03] <dogmatic69> tschundeee: i am so far
[23:03] <nikitis> d3vic3, manually doing sudo mount -a which envokes all mount points in fstab, works.
[23:03] <tschundeee> _DGM_: I mean that the empty system has a 17gb footprint in 64bit (win7)
[23:03] <dogmatic69> on vista my cpu fan sounded like a jet engine.. now im not sure its on :P
[23:03] <nikitis> d3vic3, but I have no clue as to why it says it's mounted, but not showing up
[23:04] <tschundeee> If you have enough space it's no problem of course
[23:04] <d3vic3> nikitis: just http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[23:05] <d3vic3> nikitis: unmount it and try manually to see
[23:06] <nikitis> d3vic3, sudo umount /dev/sdb1  says umount: /home/nikitis/Freeagent: not mounted
[23:07] <josh_k> anyone know what keys to press to boot a starling netbook from system76?
[23:07] <d3vic3> nikitis: then mount it yourself
[23:07] <mrozek> Hi! How to change Places->Computer from opening dolphin to nautilus?
[23:07] <white_magic> how can i make it so in ubuntu, i have the directory path written instead of the 'breadcrumbs'?
[23:07] <ChogyDan> white_magic: ctrl+L
[23:09] <tschundeee> can the netbook edition be installed on a non-atom cpu notebook like a centrino?
[23:09] <josh_k> nm, I found the users guide; well-hidden power button!
[23:09] <nikitis> d3vic3, sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /home/nikitis/Freeagent  Results in a successful mount, with folders viewable
[23:10] <nikitis> But I need this to happen automatically since this is going to be a drive for a ftp server while i'm away from the house.
[23:10] <d3vic3> nikitis: good 4 u :)
[23:10] <nikitis> d3vic3, still not good, problem isn't solved
[23:10] <xmad> nikitis, create a cron job
[23:11] <d3vic3> xmad: nikitis: cron job is not a solution :)
[23:14] <white_magic> ChogyDan: ty
[23:14] <d3vic3> mrozek: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-back-nautilus-as-your-default-file-manager.html
[23:15] <mrozek> d3vic3: sorry, got no such option :(
[23:16] <mrozek> d3vic3, ok found it :), much thanks :D
[23:16] <mrozek> works for me now :)
[23:16] <captain-murphy> Hello, I'm having a hell of time getting music to work. sound from the internet and system are fine but playing music isn't happening and I'm looking for some help. I've never debugged sound stuff before which is why I'm coming here - can anyone point me in the right direction?
[23:17] <Seveas> captain-murphy, left.
[23:17] <redDEADresolve> anyone know if you can get a vanilla gnome in the new ubuntu 10.10 I really like my notification area
[23:17] <Seveas> captain-murphy, what are you trying to play music with?
[23:17] <Seveas> !maverick | redDEADresolve
[23:18]  * darth_tux71 is away: I'm busy
[23:18] <nikitis> d3vic3, So how can mtab say it's mounted to ~/Freeagent, but not be?
[23:18] <rww> ubottu: away > darth_tux71
[23:19] <nikitis> d3vic3, isn't the point of mtab to show what is currently mounted?
[23:19] <captain-murphy> Seveas: I've tryed a lot of things, mpd/nmpc amarok - none of them actually play anything and I don't know where to look for logs for this stuff. is it alsa? is it pulseaudio? or something else?
[23:19] <Renski> hey all. Ive used iptables to setup a half decent firewall for a desktop. but what do I do if I want to allow something like HTTP, and HTTPS, but only to certain applications?
[23:19] <nikitis> d3vic3, why then with mtab saying it's mounted, but not really, do I still have to manually mount it to work?
[23:20] <Seveas> captain-murphy, oh, you're on kde?
[23:20] <aperson> cron isn't running anything for me.  crontab -e doesn't give any errors, and I checked cron's logs (there were no obvious errors that I could spot). http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/481170/
[23:20] <captain-murphy> I just started using it, but I had the same problem before with gnome and the default ubuntu 10.4 setup
[23:21] <d3vic3> nikitis: backup fstab and mtab, remove sdb1 entries and reboot your system
[23:21] <rww> aperson: add a blank line to the end of your crontab
[23:21] <Seveas> captain-murphy, I suggest asking in #kubuntu, kde has it's own sound handling thing
[23:21] <white_magic> i'm trying to install truecrypt, but for some reason it only installs 2 document files in /usr/share/truecrypt/doc and doesn't bother with any other
[23:21] <white_magic> even though the console says otherwise
[23:21] <white_magic> what could be happening?
[23:21] <Seveas> white_magic, black magic.
[23:21] <andygracia> hi
[23:21] <white_magic> that was helpful
[23:21] <aperson> rww, there is one
[23:21] <Renski> white_magic: I saw that today
[23:22] <Renski> white_magic: it install the other files else where
[23:22] <Renski> *installs
[23:22] <Seveas> white_magic, about as helpful as your question. Now if you were to paste the console output maybe I can give a better answer :)
[23:22] <white_magic> hmmm
[23:22] <Renski> white_magic: install it again, but this time pay attention to the list of files it gives you
[23:22] <white_magic> you know, i tried copying & pasting, but ctrl-c just hides the cmd window
[23:22] <andygracia> can anyone help me with permission of mounting a fat sd card ???
[23:22] <Seveas> white_magic, ctrl+shift+c
[23:22] <white_magic> ahh ok
[23:22] <Renski> white_magic: they are spread out to three different directories
[23:23] <Renski> white_magic: I used it yesterday only to find out that truecrypt doesnt support full disk encryption on linux
[23:23] <djshotglass> anyone know of a command line download manager (https) that uses multiple connections to get the file?
[23:23] <Seveas> Renski, if you want that, use dm_crypt
[23:23] <captain-murphy> Seveas: its the same problem in both gnome and kde - but what I'm really asking for is where can I find the logs to figure out whats going wrong?
[23:23] <white_magic> ctrl+shift+c also hides the terminal window
[23:24] <white_magic> strangely enough
[23:24] <nikitis> d3vic3, fstab, mtab backed up, and rebooted.  Awaiting your next commands
[23:24] <Renski> Seveas: Its sorted now, I used the LVM encrypted partitions from the alternate install cd
[23:24] <Seveas> Renski, that works too :)
[23:24] <Seveas> white_magic, you have a strange windowmanager setup :)
[23:24] <white_magic> its default
[23:24] <Seveas> no, that's a lie :)
[23:24] <Renski> nah, its the weird truecrypt installer
[23:24] <white_magic> could be
[23:25] <white_magic> anyway, i had the choice between 'install truecrypt' or 'extract tar'
[23:25] <white_magic> so this time i extracted tar
[23:25] <Renski> instead of using the shell, it decides to use its own method of printing out text in a gui
[23:25] <white_magic> and will see how that goes
[23:25] <__goo__>  Hi, I am running Ubuntu 9.10, how can i add extra true type fonts? Which directory to i add them to?
[23:25] <Seveas> Renski, ah
[23:25] <white_magic> too bad that it can just install when it promises to
[23:25] <JuJuBee> I am trying to get my eth0 interface up and configured using settings in /etc/network/interfaces.. getting this error with sudo ifup eth0...   SIOCADDRT: No such process
[23:25] <JuJuBee> Failed to bring up eth0.
[23:25] <rww> ubottu: fonts | __goo__
[23:25] <d3vic3> nikitis: just check if everything is ok, entries for sdb1 should've been created automatically and the drive may be accessible too
[23:25] <aperson> rww, in the cron logs, it says it's running the @reboot jobs, but I can't get znc to start.  I swear I remember this working before
[23:25] <andygracia> what is wrong with this line?  /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/sdcard vfat user,auto,dmask=027,fmask=137 0 0
[23:25] <__goo__> rww, thanks
[23:25] <rww> aperson: I have no idea about ZNC, never used it
[23:26] <Seveas> aperson, encrypted homedir?
[23:26] <aperson> Seveas, nosir
[23:26] <Poker>  hi , i have problem with hdmi resolution , i plug my labtop to the lcd screen via hdmi but the resolution is not correct my  taskbar out of sight! , my laptop dell inspiron dell laptop and video card is intel Graphics Media , and my os kubuntu 10.4
[23:26] <Renski> has anyone ever got mobile broadband working on 10.04?
[23:26] <Renski> in the UK
[23:26] <_DGM_> Renski: that all just depends on available drivers for the specific device
[23:27] <_DGM_> Renski: look up the brand and type and see if its supported :)
[23:27] <andygracia> what is wrong with this line and i cant change ownership?  /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/sdcard vfat user,auto,dmask=027,fmask=137 0 0
[23:27] <Seveas> !repeat | andygracia
[23:27] <Renski> _DGM_: I havnt bought one yet, I want to know whats supported and work easily before making my choice :)
[23:27] <Seveas> Renski, the ones vodafone hands out work
[23:27] <white_magic> so i got a tar.gz file and i need to extract its contents to /usr/. i guess i have to get sudo access for it. in all cases like this, i'll need to open a terminal window
[23:27] <white_magic> ?
[23:28] <Renski> Seveas: nice, thanks
[23:28] <Renski> white_magic: that would be the easiest way
[23:29] <Renski> Seveas: do you have a model name/number or a link I used to do a little research?
[23:29] <Renski> (want to make sure I get the right one)
[23:29] <nikitis> d3vic3, mtab reports no mount of /dev/sdb1
[23:29] <Wipster> evning all, got an issue with ftp on linux if I reboot my computer I can get one file transfer but if I try again I only get one hash mark in debug mode. ifconfig down up doesn't fix it and a reboot seems to be the only way to get another transfer. Been happening for quite a few ubuntu versions now and its finally got to me, (have to use windows for the ftp transfers)
[23:29] <Seveas> Renski, afraid not. I'm a northsea away from the device right now :)
[23:30] <d3vic3> nikitis: what's the output for groups command?
[23:30] <Seveas> Renski, but most actually work. Haven't seen a non-working model in a while. Just ask the salesclerk whether you can try it :)
[23:30] <nikitis> nikitis adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[23:30] <Renski> Seveas: I bought one from O2, but I couldnt get that working with windows, let alone anything
[23:30] <Renski> else
[23:30] <nikitis> d3vic3, nikitis adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[23:30] <white_magic> so how would i extract is using terminal? it's been a while since i did this..
[23:31] <Seveas> Renski, that's why I try before I buy :)
[23:31] <solow> How come non of my usb flash drives get detected?
[23:31] <solow> it works fine with ubuntu on my laptop
[23:31] <Renski> white_magic: gunzip [your zip file]
[23:31] <white_magic> ahh ok
[23:31] <Renski> white_magic: then tar -xf [tar file]
[23:31] <Seveas> solow, broken usb port? Does plugging them in make anything show up in the dmesg output?
[23:31] <d3vic3> nikitis: you're not a member of fuse group!
[23:31] <Renski> white_magic: then mv the files where required, then read up the man pages/tutorials for those commands so you dont need to ask again :)
[23:32] <white_magic> yea, i dont intend to keep asking them :)
[23:32] <nikitis> d3vic3, apparently not, why didn't it auto add me?
[23:32] <d3vic3> nikitis: i thiink that's why you can't see file content when it's mounted automatically
[23:32] <Seveas> Renski, the gunzip step is not needed. tar will recugnize and uncompress tar.gz files
[23:32] <solow> Seveas, i dont see anything come up.... but my mouse does work in the same usb port. so i dont think its broken
[23:32] <white_magic> nice
[23:32] <Renski> Seveas: automagically?
[23:33] <Seveas> Renski, yes
[23:33] <Seveas> has done that for a few years now
[23:33] <nikitis> d3vic3, useradd -G fuse nikitis
[23:33] <nikitis> d3vic3, ?
[23:33]  * Renski curses a thousand wasted commands
[23:33] <Renski> Though I did learn about gzip and tar back on madrake
[23:33] <Seveas> and even before that tar -zxf would make it do the uncompressing :)
[23:33] <Renski> *mandrake
[23:35] <Xearo> Ugh my head hurts... lol
[23:35] <d3vic3> nikitis: yep, but try sudo dpkg-reconfigure fuse-utils first
[23:35] <d3vic3> nikitis: if you still not member of fuse then proceed manually, don't forget to recover old fstab and mtab files
[23:36] <North_Italian69> some one can explain me this: ''pre-up /usr/sbin/ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full'' it seems that w/o that using a static ip you cant use all gigabit bandwidth
[23:36] <solow> so i'm doomed?
[23:36] <nikitis> d3vic3, yeah that didn't add me
[23:37] <white_magic> so would it be something like tar -xf compressed.tar.gz /my/directory ?
[23:38] <erUSUL> North_Italian69: you are forcing the Gib speed in the interface... somehow you're NIC when it negotiates the speed it gets a lower speed
[23:38] <cannonfodder> hey you guys...what are the 2 different user columns for in the line im about to paste? im refering to the first one "joe" and the second one "root"
[23:38] <cannonfodder> drwxr-xr-x  2 joe  root  4096 2010-08-20 15:05 www
[23:38] <d3vic3> nikitis: then usermod -a -G fuse nikitis
[23:38] <Jordan_U> !permissions | cannonfodder
[23:38] <Seveas> cannonfodder, the 2nd one is group
[23:38] <Renski> anyone, is there anyway to restrict network access based on the executable? For example 'let nmap have access to port 443, but not firefox'?
[23:39] <cannonfodder> thanks
[23:39] <nikitis> d3vic3, nikitis adm dialout cdrom plugdev fuse lpadmin admin sambashare
[23:39] <nikitis>   looks good, so i'll readd that fstab entry like i did before and let you know how it goes
[23:39] <North_Italian69> erUSUL: so, do yo think its a nice tweak for a lan server?
[23:39] <d3vic3> nikitis: go ahead ;)
[23:40] <segaloco> well, though some black magic i dont understand, i used chroot and manged to get my wifi working in this live cd through the driver from my HD install
[23:40] <Delvien> How can I determing what is spinning up my HDD so much? (laptop) iotop gives me no useable data as CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT is not enabled in the ubuntu mainline kernels, so I cannot tell what IO and swap is being used.
[23:40] <segaloco> although i still cant seem to figure out how to remove/alter plymouth to reenable booting :/
[23:40] <erUSUL> North_Italian69: if you need it and it works i do not see why not
[23:40] <nikitis> d3vic3, wonder why fuse-utils didn't add me automatically during install, as well as dpkg-reconfigure...
[23:40] <andygracia> is it good a practise to mount a fat32 with user root and group www-data?
[23:40] <segaloco> iv gotten to the point that i think ill install xubuntu on my other HD, and just chroot every time to load wifi
[23:41] <segaloco> i mean, it seems pretty stable :P
[23:41] <North_Italian69> erUSUL: but, why don do that as default. so it is a gigabit nic
[23:41] <d3vic3> nikitis: where nikitis the first account created on your system?
[23:41] <erUSUL> andygracia: no; using fat32 for anything else than thumb drives a camera memory cards is bad practice in my opinion
[23:42] <nikitis> d3vic3, yes, created during install
[23:42] <white_magic> so lemme guess, you cant specify an extract directory. you have to extract, then move, every time?
[23:42] <d3vic3> nikitis: which ubuntu verison?
[23:42] <nikitis> d3vic3, 10.04
[23:42] <andygracia> erUSUL so reformat to ext2 for example??
[23:42] <segaloco> brb
[23:42] <hiexpo> white_magic,  what are you trying to compile ?
[23:42] <nikitis> d3vic3, same problem.  didn't work ;(  mtab says it's mounted in that directory, but when i go to visit the directory, no files still
[23:43] <Xearo> Question, Are the open source ATI drivers just as good at the restricted drivers? Is there any reason to update to the restricted ones?
[23:43] <erUSUL> North_Italian69: as i said. something is wrong. maybe the cable is too long or not high quality or something else, the nic should negotiate the higher speed it can
[23:43] <hiexpo> !restricted
[23:43] <white_magic> hiexpo: nothing much, i'm just trying to install truecrypt while learning how file/program handling is done in ubuntu
[23:43] <erUSUL> white_magic: see the -C switch in "man tar"
[23:43] <white_magic> alright
[23:44] <hiexpo> white_magic,  let me check one sec
[23:44] <quinten> hi: i'm looking for software like cdparanoia to copy a DVD with a scratch. DD did not work-it keeps erroring out
[23:44] <white_magic> yea -C could probably do what i'm looking for
[23:44] <erUSUL> andygracia: why ext2 in this day and age? ext4
[23:45] <andygracia> erUSUL: because ext4 and ext3 i think are not supported by arm v5
[23:45] <erUSUL> quinten: gddrescue ?
[23:45] <d3vic3> nikitis: remember me what was the line in fstab for sdb1?
[23:45] <erUSUL> andygracia: not supprted by the kernel you are using? fair enough.
[23:45] <nikitis> d3vic3, UUID=15C86054380070A1   /home/nikitis/Freeagent           ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=022     0       0
[23:45] <hiexpo> white_magic,  what version ubuntu
[23:46] <andygracia> erUSUL: yes i think so :(
[23:46] <quinten> erUSUL, thanks, i'll try that
[23:47] <nikitis> erUSUL, ext2 is good for people who want access to their drive from windows.
[23:48] <nikitis> d3vic3, blkid says: /dev/sdb1: UUID="15C86054380070A1" TYPE="ntfs"
[23:49] <hiexpo> white_magic,  is it 9.10 or 10.04 ?
[23:49] <nikitis> quinten, you may be out of luck.  dd does bit for bit copy.  if it errors out, chances are the bits are no longer there on the disc due to the scratch.
[23:49] <dogmatic69> ive created vhosts for apache and its working *but* some folders copied from windows dont show up
[23:49] <dogmatic69> how do i get them to show?
[23:50] <d3vic3> nikitis: substitue defaults, with rw,user,auto,exec,
[23:50] <Poker>  hi , i have problem with hdmi resolution , i plug my labtop to the lcd screen via hdmi but the resolution is not correct my  taskbar out of sight! , my laptop dell inspiron dell laptop and video card is intel Graphics Media , and my os kubuntu 10.4
[23:51] <nikitis> dogmatic69, make sure permissions are all good and owned by the same user.  ls -la will show.
[23:51] <ironfoot495> HELLO iS THERE SOMEONE WHO COULD HELP ME FIX 10.04 IT JUST WONT BOOT.
[23:52] <_DGM_> ironfoot495: please don't use capslock
[23:52] <dogmatic69> nikitis: and who should own them?
[23:52] <dogmatic69> my user?
[23:52] <Poker> xrandr: cannot find crtc for output LVDS1 , what that mean ?
[23:52] <djshotglass> anyone know of a command line download manager (https) that uses multiple connections to get the file?
[23:52] <nikitis> Poker, check that your TV has a screen positioning.  Some TV's do not know how to process that correctly, that's why menu's were added to manually correct it.
[23:52] <quinten> curl
[23:52] <ironfoot495> It's the second drive . The error is no such Disk. [not support]?
[23:52] <_DGM_> ironfoot495: insert a 10.04 ubuntu disc and pick "recovery" from the menu
[23:52] <quinten> DjMadness, cyrl
[23:52] <nikitis> dogmatic69, More likely your linux user
[23:53] <ironfoot495> ok I'll give it a try.
[23:53] <quinten> djshotglass, sorry one more time: curl
[23:53] <djshotglass> i see nothing in man curl that will download a single file with more than one http connection
[23:53] <nikitis> dogmatic69, you can try sudo chown username.username /directory/*
[23:54] <white_magic> how can i overwrite a dir in ubuntu? i tried 'sudo mv -f src dest' but it told me that dest folder wasn't empty
[23:54] <Poker> nikitis, but i get this messege xrandr: cannot find crtc for output LVDS1 when i try to xrandr --auto
[23:54] <d3vic3> nikitis: try a soft else http://flomertens.free.fr/disk-manager/features.html or http://albertomilone.wordpress.com/2006/07/27/pysdm-a-gui-for-fstab/
[23:54] <dogmatic69> nikitis: i own it :) one that shows is drwx---r-x one that does not is drwx------
[23:54] <erUSUL> white_magic: rm dest first ?
[23:55] <nikitis> dogmatic69, try "sudo chmod 755 /Directory/*"  without quotes
[23:56] <djshotglass> also whats should i install to remote desktop ubuntu from windows
[23:56] <^cheeky> when installing ubuntu 10.04 during the create partition phase , i only see 2 radio buttons for Primary and Logical i cant create an extended partition ?
[23:56] <quinten> djshotglass, vnc
[23:56] <dogmatic69> nikitis: its ok to 755 the whole dir?
[23:56] <d3vic3> nikitis: http://www.hackourlives.com/auto-mount-windows-partitions-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid/ is a good point too, I have to go now but you can email me if you solved it loadlogger[at]gmail.com
[23:56] <dogmatic69> would that be done on a production site?
[23:57] <ChogyDan> ^cheeky: I think doing a logical one will automatically create the extended
[23:57] <erUSUL> ^cheeky: if you choose logical either it will use the existing extended partition or create it
[23:57] <^cheeky> oh ..
[23:57] <nikitis> dogmatic69, well depends on which users you want access to them
[23:57] <^cheeky> here goes nothing ..
[23:57] <^cheeky> thank you
[23:57] <djshotglass> does vnc not cost $?
[23:57] <Jordan_U> ironfoot495: Does your second drive show up in the BIOS?
[23:57] <^cheeky> so wat point would i mount it on ..
[23:58] <dogmatic69> nikitis: well its my dev pc, but i want to be able to open a vhost up to the internet when i want
[23:58] <dogmatic69> to show clients or getting help
[23:58] <^cheeky> iam not sure how much i should allocate to that extented/logical partition and what type of filssystem i should give it
[23:58] <fester> hi i'm trying to update my 10.04 to a new kernel (2.6.33+), so that i can get TRIM support, but when I update, my fglrx always breaks, any suggestions?
[23:58] <dogmatic69> easier than uploading all the time
[23:58] <white_magic> erUSUL: the dest is /usr
[23:58] <white_magic> i'm not sure i want to delete that
[23:58] <ezy> hi all. any irc chat you know that when you click on a username it puts it automatically in the message screen...a convenient one to respond faster without having to type the username ?
[23:58] <aeon-ltd> fester: downgrade fglrx
[23:59] <white_magic> im just trying to install an app with all of its folders which reside in /usr
[23:59] <erUSUL> white_magic: what are you trying to do ?
[23:59] <nikitis> Poker, I found a bug similar to what your doing, may not be solvable yet.
[23:59] <white_magic> install truecrypt
[23:59] <aeon-ltd> ezy: whats wrong with tab completion?
[23:59] <fester> aeon-ltd: any guide for that?
[23:59] <white_magic> i extracted the tar.gz
[23:59] <^cheeky> ezy: tab .. completion
[23:59] <white_magic> and the root dir there is /usr, then /bin & /share
[23:59] <white_magic> that's how they break down, basically
[23:59] <aeon-ltd> !downgrade
[23:59] <aeon-ltd> damn