[00:41] JontheEchidna: Happy B-Day :D [00:41] :D [00:42] damn that apachelogger, fix kubotu already [00:42] * Quintasan slides cookies down to JontheEchidna [00:42] <3 [00:42] dohohoho [00:42] project-neon is alive! [00:43] pre-pre-pre-pre alpha: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopjt1574 (just looks pretty. the install button does nada) [00:44] software center? [00:44] * Quintasan slides down some vodka to JontheEchidna [00:44] icon grabber seems to be running into the same problem as adept (kde bug 170824) :( [00:44] KDE bug 170824 in general "Adept Installer is missing icons for a lot of apps" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170824 [00:45] can't seem to get KIconLoader to look in /usr/share/app-install/icons :/ [00:48] dohohoho [00:48] damn u debugging libs [00:48] now everything shall go smootly [00:48] smoothly* [00:48] * Quintasan needs headphones with mic [00:50] hmm [00:51] I'm going to stick with Tiling for few days [00:51] and see how that works for me [00:54] hhahahahaa [00:54] PRAISE ME [00:54] IT'S ALIVE [00:54] * Quintasan goes mad [00:58] apachelogger: I think your madness is contagious and I'm having it transmitted to me [00:58] :P [01:06] zomg [01:06] I have teh fix0r'd it [01:07] Just as expected. [01:07] :3 [01:07] http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopza1574 [01:08] I'm looking forward to see it in Maverick+1 [01:08] Narwhal was it? [01:09] yus [01:10] icons back to normal size: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopzz1574 [01:10] I approve of this! [01:12] man, I have a lot to do still [01:12] category view for the main page [01:12] app pages [01:26] dir [01:26] grr [01:28] I'm off to bed then [01:28] good night [01:55] JontheEchidna: Happy Birthday [01:56] thanks. :) I am now 19 in UTC time :P [01:57] JontheEchidna: one day too late :), I was born on 20th of August 1979 [01:57] oh, happy birthday to you then :) [01:57] hehe [01:57] thanks [01:58] lions rock [02:21] stil the 20th here -- happy bday JontheEchidna! [02:22] and neversfelde! [02:22] birthday buddies [02:22] I'm the 21st, but in euro timezones it's already the 21st [02:23] you are still bday budz [02:24] yay happy birhtday to those guys [02:25] hey guys question: Err http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick/main Sources [02:25] 404 Not Found [02:25] an an apt-get update [02:26] is maverick broken bad? [04:01] happy birthday JontheEchidna and neversfelde! === maco changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu and KNR 10.04.1 released | Maverick Feature Freeze in Place | Kubuntu, making your PC friendly | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Happy birthday to our beloved MOTU neversfelde & core-dev JontheEchidna! [08:15] JontheEchidna: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!! === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu and KNR 10.04.1 released | Maverick Feature Freeze in Place | Kubuntu, making your PC friendly | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Happy birthday to our beloved core-dev JontheEchidna (with super cow powers ;))! [08:16] JontheEchidna: happy bday [08:17] * apachelogger wishes an rbot was around ^^ [08:32] * nigelb waves apachelogger :) [08:41] * apachelogger waves back at nigelb [08:42] apachelogger: KDE Ubuntu One looks really cool. [08:42] (more attractive too) [08:43] well, it is KDE ^^ [08:45] heh [08:49] oh dear [08:49] OH DEAR [08:50] OH DEAR!!!!!! [08:51] shadeslayer: choqok is the crap [08:51] * nigelb lols [08:51] apachelogger: I do use Choqok. [08:51] dont look at the code [08:51] not ever [08:51] not even at the cmake code that is supposed to make the code work [08:51] both are not only bugged but also ugly [08:51] Heh. [09:40] cool [09:40] choqok does not even implement the laconia api [09:46] * apachelogger does not see a model and yet he thinks choqok should use a model [10:08] hnnngh [10:08] o/ [11:40] happy weekend [11:41] ooh, it's JontheEchidna's birthday? how exciting! [12:22] JontheEchidna: happy birthsday! [12:27] hm [12:27] qt-recordmydesktop broken [12:27] gtk-recordmydesktop broken [12:27] python fail [12:27] \o/ [12:56] apachelogger: code you ask? i have nothing to do with it :P [12:57] i just saw new release and went bazinga! [12:58] JontheEchidna: happy birthday \o/ [12:59] apachelogger: listen to http://www.blackstratblues.com/ [12:59] free downloads [13:38] * apachelogger writes a recordmydesktop gui now :P [13:48] there is no schedul for KDE 4.5.x point releases? [13:57] apachelogger: file:///opt/project-neon/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/dtd/kdex.dtd:101: warning: failed to load external entity "file:///usr/share/xml/docbook/schema/dtd/4.2/docbookx.dtd" << ideas [13:57] thats causing FTBFS [14:03] builddep on docbook-xml? [14:03] * apachelogger really does not get why recordmydesktop does not get turned into a flipping library [14:05] * shadeslayer checks [14:16] apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/Z7GpH5aS and http://pastebin.com/ShmvwWrj [14:16] new ideas :P [14:18] http://gitorious.org/recordmydesktop-kde/recordmydesktop-kde [14:18] * shadeslayer looks [14:18] error in version: epoch in version is not number [14:19] yeah [14:19] but? [14:19] still ftbfs :P [14:19] i cant figure out [14:20] did you fix your version? [14:20] (= ${binary:Version)) [14:20] find the typo [14:27] apachelogger: whatcha trying to code? [14:30] recordmydesktop gui [14:36] oic [14:36] brr : W: project-neon-kdetoys source: dbg-package-missing-depends project-neon-kdetoys-dbg [14:36] http://pastebin.com/pqxTPL1R control file [14:53] apachelogger: QTimer::singleShot(0, this, SLOT(init())); << why have you put 0 there? cant you like just do connect() ? [14:57] shadeslayer: that is not the same as connect, if you think about it ;) [14:59] apachelogger: theres no signal thats why? [15:01] shadeslayer: yes [15:01] ah ok :P [15:01] shadeslayer: the qtimer will insert the execution of init into the event queue rather than doing it right away [15:02] which usually helps with getting a ready GUI ASAP while things are still being set up in the background [15:02] ah [15:32] happy birthday JontheEchidna :) [17:14] apachelogger: if choqok doesnt do the laconica api, then why is it able to do the redent functionality? [17:22] [choqok] sitter * 1166204 * trunk/extragear/network/choqok/cmake/modules/FindQtOAuth.cmake (log message trimmed) [17:22] FindQtOAuth: * look for right pkconfig name * look quitely for the name, [17:22] otherwise it will message the user "not found" (if the pkconfig file was not [17:35] can one of you folks look into bug 32333? [17:35] Launchpad bug 32333 in grub (Ubuntu) "kubuntu-grub-splashimages adds a splashimage config line to GRUB's menu.lst to the wrong place" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32333 [17:35] (if its fixed, please close it) [17:37] * shadeslayer looks [17:37] altho of lately im scared of rebooting my pc [17:38] !find kubuntu-grub-splashimages maverick [17:38] Package/file kubuntu-grub-splashimages does not exist in maverick [17:38] nigelb: ^ invalid [17:39] WTH is the problem with my kde svn builds :/ [17:40] i have no debugging symbols :/ [17:41] shadeslayer: yeah, now I'm stuck at figuring out grub :P [17:41] nigelb: erm.. that package isnt in maverick anymore [17:41] isn't grub2 package also called grub? [17:41] !info grub [17:42] removed in jaunty [17:42] grub (source: grub): GRand Unified Bootloader (Legacy version). In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-29ubuntu60 (lucid), package size 396 kB, installed size 924 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 lpia all) [17:42] nigelb: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-grub-splashimages/+publishinghistory [17:42] bug 457825 [17:42] Launchpad bug 457825 in kubuntu-grub-splashimages (Ubuntu) "Request for removal from archive (binary and source)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/457825 [17:42] shadeslayer: can you comment on the bug and close it? [17:42] sure no problem [17:42] shadeslayer: Thank you :) [17:43] oh dear [17:43] where is nixternal? [17:43] :O [17:43] anyhow [17:43] http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/08/21/ubuntu-one-technical-aspects/#comment-350 [17:43] we are red-headed now [17:43] from blue to red, what a regression :/ [17:43] maco: it uses the twitter compability API it seems [17:44] apachelogger: someone should tell the troll about the poll that was linked here [17:44] kubuntu seemed to top the list [17:44] wow [17:45] nigelb: closed [17:45] * nigelb hugs shadeslayer :) [17:45] * shadeslayer hugs back [17:45] brrr [17:46] I hope everyone already took a vote on http://kde-look.org/poll/index.php?poll=256 [17:47] nope [17:47] * shadeslayer votes for Windows.... [17:47] ;) [17:48] erm [17:48] how do you vote? [17:49] shadeslayer: look at right sidebar [17:49] its closed i think [17:49] ohh [17:49] done [17:50] oh [17:50] mail from google in spam [17:50] how unfortunate [17:50] Congratulations, from our data it seems that you have successfully passed the Final Evaluations. [17:50] \o/ [17:50] * apachelogger hugs everyone [17:50] apachelogger: PARTY!!!!! [17:50] \o/ [17:50] yay, the birthday boy is here! [17:50] JontheEchidna: apachelogger this calls for a party!!!!! [17:50] \o/ [17:51] Riddell: dear mentor if you have some time please poke me so that we can disucss the results of my eval and plans [17:51] ->finally has backtraces [17:51] * nigelb sings "Happy birthday to you" to JontheEchidna :) [17:51] * apachelogger would ask an rbot to sing, since apachelogger is a bad singer :P [17:51] hahaha [17:51] dr konki crashed [17:52] what a coincidence :p [17:52] apachelogger: Me too. Nobody cares for "Happy Birthday"! [17:53] :P [17:53] I am afraid we have to license it first anyway [17:53] otherwise we might get sued [17:53] oh yeah. I came to know about it only recently. [17:54] DrKonqi: hello [17:54] apachelogger: hola :) [17:54] DrKonqi: order coffee [17:54] * DrKonqi slides coffee with milk down the bar to apachelogger. [17:54] DrKonqi: order birthday package for JontheEchidna [17:54] * DrKonqi is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present. [17:54] * DrKonqi slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to JontheEchidna and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer. [17:54] apachelogger: Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday JontheEchidna, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho! [17:54] apachelogger: Happy Birthday JontheEchidna :D [17:54] apachelogger: To your health! [17:55] hm [17:55] hah! [17:55] ok [17:55] \o/ [17:55] DrKonqi: I wonder why you tell me [17:55] bug!!! [17:55] now we have the 3 bots [17:55] * apachelogger notes that rbotbar needs a refactor and love [17:55] * apachelogger hugs JontheEchidna and hides [17:55] my present to y'all: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopsw1574 (Install buttons don't do anything yet, very pre-pre-pre alpha) [17:56] DrKonqi: quit [17:56] apachelogger, you don't have 'basics::quit::quit' permissions here [17:56] oh [17:56] JontheEchidna: sweeeeet [17:56] we need to ship some sort of Kubuntu icon somewhere [17:57] in order to play the supremacy card you will need really custom delegates though ;) [17:57] JontheEchidna: SWEET! [17:57] like kpk [17:57] just in good lookin [17:57] JontheEchidna amazing :D Does the main screen works? That one where are all categories? :) [17:57] JontheEchidna: where do you develop that thingy? [17:57] sheytan: right now it can only display all applications. :P I still have to write a main category page and such [17:57] apachelogger: have fun with the new rbot :P [17:57] shadeslayer: I am not a pervert! (not always) [17:57] where is kubotu? [17:57] haha [17:58] JontheEchidna sure :) Glad someone is working on this, really :) [17:58] * shadeslayer points to Roran [17:58] * nigelb lols @ "not always" [17:58] apachelogger: I'm waiting until I can move muon to extragear (currently in kdereview) so then I can branch a 1.0.x branch for muon and open trunk again [17:58] JontheEchidna: nice [17:58] sheytan: kubotu got renamed? [17:58] nigelb: no [17:58] thats my bot :P [17:58] i don't know :D [17:58] same codebase as kubotu [17:58] JontheEchidna: you want this as part of muon? [17:58] sheytan: tabfail. wanted to ask shadeslayer :D [17:58] apachelogger: It's using the MuonMainWindow class as a base [17:58] hmmm [17:59] JontheEchidna: time for libmuon ;) [17:59] perhaps :P [17:59] it's not first time ppl point me instead of shadeslayer :D [17:59] :P [17:59] * apachelogger thinks that if it is in KDE SVN it should not carry kubuntu branding [17:59] anyhow [17:59] JontheEchidna: you should talk to jefferai about getting muon onto git.kde.org so branching becomes less of an effort ;) [18:00] Roran: order cookies for JontheEchidna [18:00] * Roran slides cookies down the bar to JontheEchidna [18:01] uh oh.. one sec [18:02] now everything is fine ^_^ [18:03] * apachelogger giggles over recorditnow [18:04] need some help with this backtrace http://pastebin.com/XVyD3EW5 [18:04] line 27, how do i read it? [18:04] what is it trying to say to me? :P [18:05] and do i read 0x00007f4617a010ba as one? or 0x0000 7f4617a010ba [18:06] apachelogger: which version? cuz twitter doesnt have that "repeat" functionality... identi.ca has redenting where it doesnt resend to groups, and choqok uses that. it also uses oauth which identica has and twitter doesnt [18:06] apachelogger: there's a schedule === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [18:06] maco: twitter recently started having oauth or something of that extent? [18:06] * nigelb vaguely remembers such talk. [18:07] yep [18:07] twitter has OAuth now [18:07] * nigelb points to http://dev.twitter.com/pages/oauth_faq helpfully. [18:07] jefferai: I am obeying the schedule of other people, if you want to find someone who dislikes schedules, then I am your man ;) [18:08] shadeslayer: you read it as one, I suppose you are on 64bit? hence the length of the address... [18:08] yeah on 64 bit [18:08] shadeslayer: so clearly they'll let you log in with OpenID then soon [18:08] right? :-) [18:09] jefferai: if i have a openid, id rather use identi.ca :P [18:09] shadeslayer: what it tries to say that at the instruction that is at the long address of your memory [18:09] which originally came from the function FolderView::configChanged [18:10] which was invoked with this at the address 0xcfbfd0 [18:10] and is in your source at /home/kde/kde/src/kdebase/apps/plasma/applets/folderview/folderview.cpp:478 [18:10] was executed [18:10] hmm [18:10] and lead to the frame above [18:10] apachelogger: ok, and how does it say that i have a dangling pointer? [18:11] in which it then died [18:11] shadeslayer: it doesnt [18:11] how would it? [18:11] oh actually [18:11] erm... notmart said that i have a dangling pointer [18:11] supposedly that is your dangling pointer -> (this=0x0) [18:12] apachelogger: which line? [18:12] oh [18:12] the class that has that QGraphicsWidget has either been deleted or was never initialized [18:12] 26...right [18:12] shadeslayer: /home/kde/kde/src/kdebase/apps/plasma/applets/folderview/folderview.cpp:1022 [18:12] * shadeslayer goes to fix0r [18:12] there you call on a qgraphicswidget that is not there [18:12] hence this is 0x0 [18:13] which, as JontheEchidna suggested, is not necessary a dangling pointer but could also be an uninitialized one ;) [18:13] trying to mess around with the QGraphicsWidget before you create it, etc [18:13] right [18:13] which is probably what is going on [18:14] btw does kdevelop work for you anymore? [18:14] doesnt here :/ [18:14] * apachelogger only uses vim and kate and qtcreator [18:14] I'd look for where the code new's a QGraphicsWidget, and see if it is before or after 1022 [18:14] * JontheEchidna uses kate + konsole [18:14] apachelogger: qtcreator is the fail.... [18:14] you just do not know how to use it [18:14] i cant get it to import projects if it fails the CMake steps [18:15] well, it won't [18:15] AND ... no kde library documentation :/ [18:15] kdevelop imports it [18:15] that is because you did not import the appropriate qch file which is major fail IMHO [18:15] assistant is a terrific documentation browser either way [18:15] qch file? [18:16] qt assitant's doc package files [18:16] http://mts.ms/kde45.qch << from kde-devel === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [18:18] apachelogger: cant i just skip cmake steps? [18:18] and import the project [18:18] oh! [18:19] google knows nothing as well :P [18:20] 36 [18:20] grr [18:22] shadeslayer: you can, but what would be the point? [18:23] also cmake is essential since creator will build it's internal function caches and stuff based partially on the cmake generated foo from what I understand [18:23] apachelogger: well.. the point being i want to import the project > hack > generate patch > test on kde-devel account [18:23] I do not follow [18:23] shadeslayer: what is the problem then, if cmake needs to be building anyway? [18:24] i have 2 accounts, one with kde-svn and one with normal kde... with normal kde i cannot build kdebase/apps , it needs kdelibs > 4.4.60 [18:24] ahhhh [18:24] well [18:24] and the other account has kdelibs > 4.4.60 [18:24] you can still use creator as editor without importing it or anything [18:25] will it give me class completion and stuff? [18:25] but you will loose stuff like resolving names to point of origin and stuff [18:25] :( [18:25] shadeslayer: no [18:25] see... thats the problem [18:25] the idea is that qtcreator only gives class completion for stuff it actually knows about [18:25] which for example prevents you from coding away foo and forgetting loads of includes on the way [18:26] hmm [18:26] at the same time it permits qtcreator to autocomplete each and every thing no matter where it is on your drive as long as cmake knows its include path [18:26] why did kdevelop have to stop working :/ [18:26] and cmake needs to know it anyway [18:26] so... [18:36] aha! [18:36] apachelogger: kdevelop is missing a dep i think [18:36] doesnt dep on kdevelop-dev kdevplatform-dev libsublime-dev [18:36] which are required to import projects and stuff i think [18:37] I think packaging is wrong because kdevelop surely should not need to depend on either of those [18:38] it doesnt as of now [18:38] but without them i cant even import a project [18:41] apachelogger: dude, how do you manage this? kde-svn and stable kde :P [18:42] shadeslayer: I do not have kde-svn :P [18:45] and guess whut.. i cant use qtcreator with kde-svn :/ [18:52] poor you [18:54] JontheEchidna: I forget, do you commit in software-props? [18:57] amichair: I can [18:59] need a merge? [18:59] JontheEchidna: care to merge shadeslayer's issue from my branch? [18:59] sure [18:59] oh [18:59] amichair: i didnt check, because cowbuilder is the fail [18:59] * apachelogger is wondering if JontheEchidna is available to review an upcoming blog post [18:59] i cant see where it puts the debs [19:00] shadeslayer: you configure where it puts the debs [19:00] I think I mention that in my pbuilder-hooks REAMDE [19:00] apachelogger: can do after I do teh mergez [19:00] apachelogger: i know... and yet the debs do not turn out there [19:00] ill use sbuild from now on [19:00] JontheEchidna: cool .. mergeries are always high prio of course ^^ [19:00] shadeslayer: then you did it wrong :P [19:01] theres always that possibility :P [19:01] oho! [19:02] * apachelogger should get himself a book on good writing [19:02] reading my blog posts after I wrote them makes me not understand myself ^^ [19:02] I imagine reading me not holding a thought for longer than a minute is even worse than talking to me not holding a thought for longer than a minute :P [19:03] Nightrose: opinion ^ [19:06] amichair: merged in to trunk, thanks [19:06] JontheEchidna: no, thank you! [19:07] hmmm... that can be read in more than one way :-) [19:07] JontheEchidna: no, thank *you*! [19:07] :P [19:12] hi felimwhiteley, welcome to the mailing list [19:18] http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1626/screenshot56.png another subpage in action. Still work in progress ;) [19:23] I doubt Kubuntu is the biggest community in the world :) [19:23] but pretty picture [19:24] notable feedback from the current design is that KDE people like how it uses aspects of the KDE artwork === mgraesslin__ is now known as mgraesslin [19:26] Riddell Noone will check if we really are the biggest community :D [19:26] And thank you :) [19:26] anyway it sound good :D [19:43] ofirk: did you get anywhere with having the front page not part of the theme? [19:44] I updated it a week or two ago and submitted request to move it to production [19:44] I think it is still stuck in staging ... [19:46] ofirk: ok great, guess I should poke a sysadmin [19:46] what's the rt number? [19:46] "I love KUBUNTU, I love KDE....... I love Linux." random e-mail I just got [19:46] Riddell: fan mail? [19:47] for us all [19:48] ofirk: the old RSS feed was at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/feed, is it possible to have the current one there too? or should I put in a request to set up an http forward [19:49] ofirk: what's the problem with the local language community support pages? [19:49] someone know about chromiun failing to load profiles, it says something about permissions but I chown -R everything and it still complaining.. [19:50] my history and bookmarks are not being saved :( [19:50] and gg does not give me an hint of the problem... [19:51] the rt number is: 10496 [19:51] I changed it to news/feed [19:53] the feed is available now at news/feed and at news/rss-feed [19:56] ofirk: great thanks [19:57] Riddell: I'm still working on other languages [19:58] it'll take some time... [20:02] ofirk: why? isn't it just copy and paste from the old site? [20:06] Riddell: what was special about those pages? I mean, did they have some unique info for those locals? [20:18] ofirk: they pointed at the mailing lists, web sites and irc channels that the loco teams had asked for [20:18] Riddell: I can put them under /de/support, /fr/support etc [20:19] I just want the urls to be the same for when we launch a full localized website [20:19] that's fine, just currently the links from http://www.kubuntu.org/community lead to non existing pages which looks bad [20:20] Riddell: can you send me the appropriate links so I can put the pages [20:20] I don't think I have those pages :( [20:26] neither do I [20:26] don't suppose we took a backup of the site before it went offline? [20:29] Riddell: ah hey :) That would have been cooler if you'd done the turn around in the swivel chair and said you were expecting me ;) [20:29] lol [20:30] Riddell: we need to ask the sys admins [20:31] Riddell: can you do it while you poke them? :) [20:32] could do [20:38] Riddell: ps thanks for the welcome I meant to add :) [21:02] oh oh oh oh [21:02] koffice 2.2.2 released [21:02] Riddell: thanks :) [21:02] Riddell: do we break FF ^ [21:02] or put in PPA [22:26] Riddell: thanks for the Kubuntu specific translation domains, I've updated our translatin coordination wiki page, we are almost ready, only a few string remains, and we have to backport KPackageKit translation to upstream [23:43] shadeslayer: koffice 2.2.2 is a minor point release update, shouldn't have any new features [23:43] alright [23:44] apachelogger: seen UbuntuOne/Tutorials/FileSharing/Kubuntu ? [23:45] just waiting for iso to finish syncing [23:45] which iso shadeslayer ? [23:46] Riddell: Kubuntu Maverick ;) [23:46] hadnt updated my daily iso for weeks :P [23:46] dunno if daily ones work [23:47] no problem ;)