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Scuniziwhat's available as a twitter/social media client for kde? (already have the facebook plasma widget)02:09
cmaginaScunizi: choqok02:13
Scunizicmagina: thanks.. is it as versital as gwibber or tweetdeck or is it specifically for twitter?02:14
cmaginaScunizi: Or the microBlog plasmoid, which was on the desktop when you first logged in02:14
cmaginaScunizi: It supports twitter and identi.ca at the moment02:15
Scunizicmagina: yea.. that's uBlog.. found it a little buggy when I first tried it.02:15
cmaginaScunizi: gwibber is better then choqok, but hopefully in time it will catch up.02:17
Scunizicmagina: does gwibber run well on kde?02:18
cmaginaScunizi: Not sure, but I would imagine it would run just fine.  I still run choqok due to prefering as close to a pure KDE setup as I can get.02:19
cmaginaPlus, what we find lacking, we can submit as requests to the devs and maybe they will get added in a future release.02:19
Scunizigood.. I've loaded it up .. I'll give it a try.02:20
Scunizicmagina: will choqok minimized to the try?02:21
cmaginaScunizi: Yep02:21
cmaginaGreen bird head02:21
ScuniziThat's good.. thanks!02:21
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s003aprdoes anyone know what could cause my sound to only work with kde applications, but not others such as flash videos or games? The problem is intermittent. sometimes I can reboot and everything works fine.03:56
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manuel__buenas noches05:49
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otto__how can i get kmix to open?06:40
otto__when i select it from the menu i see it loading in the taskbar for a time and then it disappears06:41
ybit_hi07:03
ybit_quick question regarding ktorrent07:03
ybit_how do you the dns cache or update the hosts file for torrent(s)?07:04
ybit_clear the dns cache*07:04
ybit_google doesn't know07:04
ybit_ah, found it07:05
well_laid_lawnotto__: tried running kmix from konsole to see any errors?07:19
otto__it has no output if i type kmix in konsole07:20
well_laid_lawno07:22
otto__strace kmix has error output07:22
otto__how can i pipe the error stream to xclip?07:22
well_laid_lawnyou could try    killall -v kmix && kmix07:22
otto__strace kmix 2> xclip doesn't work07:22
otto__ok will try07:23
well_laid_lawninstead of a rediect to xclip why not a file -   strace kmix 2> kmix.txt   or similar07:23
well_laid_lawnredirect07:24
well_laid_lawn*07:24
otto__cool killall -v kmix && kix started it07:25
otto__but there was a bunch of error output07:25
well_laid_lawnI'd start from the top of the error output07:26
otto__well it's easier to redirect the error to xclip so it can be pasted right into a pastebin don't you think07:27
otto__good idea07:27
well_laid_lawnI dont know how xclips works with redirects so here it is easier to redirect to a file07:28
raddyHello Everybody07:31
otto__the output from killall -v kmix && kmix07:31
otto__ is http://pastebin.com/RFidjUQg07:31
well_laid_lawnk07:31
raddyHow to use Kopete for Google Voice and Video?07:31
well_laid_lawnotto__: line two from that paste suggests you might have changed the logged in user - is that right?07:33
otto__not that i know of07:33
otto__i don't know how that works07:33
well_laid_lawnk07:33
well_laid_lawnotto__: all I can suggest is that you try logging out/in07:34
otto__okay will try07:35
well_laid_lawnluck :]07:35
Mister_Ygood morning everyone... i want to create a website and therefore i need a composer using wysiwyg... one clear text editor is running, but i want to try it with the other editor also and wants to see, whether it is worth working with it.07:36
well_laid_lawnraddy: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=77299 - suggests you can't07:38
raddywell_laid_lawn: Unfortunate07:39
otto___well_laid_lawn: logged out and in, error msg still the same07:39
well_laid_lawnraddy: that page offers alternatives07:39
raddywell_laid_lawn: Google Voice and Video support has been added in KDE 4.5 that is what i am using currently.07:41
well_laid_lawnotto___: is this a standard kubuntu install?07:41
otto___yes07:41
otto___on a lenovo x6107:41
raddywell_laid_lawn: Sorry, it has been added in 4.4 it self.07:41
well_laid_lawnraddy: I don't do im so that google result is the best you'll get from me :] - maybe someone else in a bit will know07:42
well_laid_lawnotto___: for now you could kill kmix and access alsamixer directly in konsole07:43
otto___can i use alsamixer to redirect output from soundcard so it can be recorded in audacity?07:58
well_laid_lawnotto___: not afaik - I don't think alsamixer does that but then I've never tried07:59
AsinineHi Guys08:02
Asinineim running on a pentium 2.8ghz and when i open up the resource monitor my cpu load goes sky high08:03
Asininei was wondering if this is normal or if i should get a different version of ubuntu08:04
well_laid_lawnAsinine: funny nick :] - it's not normal - in konsole run   top   and check the cpu usage from there08:06
well_laid_lawnif it is fine then it is just a prob with the app08:06
Asinineok one sec08:07
Asinineyea i think the way it gets pulls the information is kinda bad08:07
Asininei wonder if raising the intervals would fix it08:07
well_laid_lawnworth a try08:07
Asinineoh one sec gonna try it08:08
Asininebtw if we donate to the ubuntu project are we put on a list08:08
Asinineok from there  my cpu goes from 15% to 30 to 25% in intervals08:10
Asinineis there anything i can do to optimize ubuntu08:10
well_laid_lawnstop any services you don't need08:13
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vaibhav_noobkpackage edit not work for few dayz now "A package dependency could not be found.08:26
vaibhav_noobMore information is available in the detailed report" error message08:26
vaibhav_noobpls help me08:27
well_laid_lawnvaibhav_noob: you could try in terminal   sudo apt-get install -f08:27
well_laid_lawnor in konsole08:28
vaibhav_noobwat -f stands for there08:28
well_laid_lawn -f for fix08:28
vaibhav_noobwell_laid_lawn: it worked thank u08:30
well_laid_lawnvaibhav_noob: np :}08:31
DarkriftXwhat does it mean if i ran apt-get upgrade yesterday and it showed new kernel and i told it not to continue but today they dont show as upgrades still08:35
asinine__hi08:50
asinine__sry im back08:50
asinine__i know this is an awful question but does fedora support more hardware when callin upon a Wine dependent file08:50
well_laid_lawnno need to be sorry :] it's what the channel is for08:51
asinine__?08:51
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well_laid_lawnthat would only depend on the version of wine used in the distro afaik08:52
well_laid_lawn<asinine__> sry im back   <well_laid_lawn> no need to be sorry :] it's what the channel is for08:52
asinine_oh ok08:52
well_laid_lawnthere can be lag between messages08:52
asinine_btw  are there any non needed proccesses i can deactivate to get rid of some of this cpu load08:52
well_laid_lawnturning of bluetooth if it's not needed seems popular08:53
asinine_im just looking for a developer friendly enviroment for one hard drive aka low resource and a user friendly for the other hard drive08:54
asinine_i am in no way a dev but i have contributed code to users alike in the eqemu community for years08:55
asinine_using windows but i finaly broke down and installed linux and i love it08:55
well_laid_lawnkde is the more resource heavy of the linux desktop environments08:55
well_laid_lawnfor lightweight there's08:56
well_laid_lawn!lubuntu08:56
ubottulubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu08:56
asinine_what are some of the features it dismisses08:56
well_laid_lawnit uses openbox for the wm - I don't know more then that about it08:57
well_laid_lawnSee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu08:57
well_laid_lawnhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=109:01
asinine_do they claim to do everything ubuntu can09:01
well_laid_lawnis a comparison of the four supported ubuntu's - don't know why edubuntu isn't in there09:01
well_laid_lawnthey all have the same base - ubuntu - it is only the de that is diff09:02
well_laid_lawnsudo apt-get install <anything> works the same09:02
well_laid_lawnyou just need to familiarize yourself with the de09:03
well_laid_lawnas an exmple you could do   sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop   and reboot - select lubuntu from the sessions and find out how light it is09:06
well_laid_lawnsame for the other *ubuntus09:07
mime1111hello ppl. i get that error: syntax error: unknown group 'gnokii' in statoverride file09:55
mime1111E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)                  when trying to install unrar, any help? thank you09:55
well_laid_lawnmime1111: first step is to try   sudo apt-get install -f09:57
mime1111i di that and nothing installs09:57
well_laid_lawnit is meant to fix broken things09:58
mime1111i am in a fresh lucid installation09:58
well_laid_lawnthere's a french channel if that would help09:58
well_laid_lawn!fr09:58
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.09:58
well_laid_lawnmime1111: did you try to install unrar after running that command?09:59
mime1111yeah...09:59
mime1111same error09:59
well_laid_lawndo you know where the group   gnokii   comes from?10:00
mime1111in other fresh copies it work correctly, but here no... maybe aa master server prob?10:00
mime1111no, i have no idea10:01
mime1111with synaptic also i cant10:01
well_laid_lawndoes this comp have diff repositories enabled then the other ones?10:01
mime1111how i look that? i have multiverse and all activated10:02
well_laid_lawnsorry - I meant using diff sources for the repos - like using french ones instead of us or similar10:02
mime1111no, i didnt changed anything10:04
well_laid_lawnk10:04
mime1111now i am installing built-essential and more, lets see10:04
well_laid_lawnwhat does   apt-cache policy unrar   return?10:04
well_laid_lawnk10:04
mime1111apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras10:04
mime1111oops sorry10:04
well_laid_lawnheh :]10:05
well_laid_lawnI do that10:05
mime1111ok10:05
mime1111:)10:07
mime1111what repos i should have enabled plesae¿?10:08
well_laid_lawnmime1111: I used the us ones first - there the busiest but most reliable ones it seems10:11
well_laid_lawnthey're*10:12
mime1111ok i am going to try that10:14
well_laid_lawnluck :]10:14
mime1111restricted and r. estras didnt help10:14
well_laid_lawnmime1111: we are working on getting unrar installed yes?10:15
mime1111no, didnt worked after change into master server sources10:16
mime1111same gnkki prob10:16
well_laid_lawnk10:16
mime1111unknown group gnokki10:16
well_laid_lawnmime1111: what does   killall -v gnokii   return?10:17
well_laid_lawnis it gnokki or gnokii ?10:17
mime1111gnokii10:17
mime1111no process found10:17
well_laid_lawnk10:17
mime1111after kill all10:17
well_laid_lawnyep10:18
well_laid_lawncan you use a tty? - do ctrl+alt+F2   and login and try   sudo apt-get install unrar   pls10:18
well_laid_lawnctrl+F7 to get back mime111110:19
well_laid_lawnctrl+alt+F7 to get back mime111110:19
well_laid_lawnoops10:19
mime1111its says the same10:20
mime1111:O(10:20
well_laid_lawnk10:21
well_laid_lawnyou could try   cat /etc/groups | grep -i gnokii   and paste the results10:22
mime1111cat: /etc/groups: No such file or directory10:23
well_laid_lawnk10:25
well_laid_lawnmime1111: sorry no s on the end    cat /etc/group | grep -i gnokii10:26
mime1111were i paste it?10:28
well_laid_lawnif it is only up to three lines here will do or10:29
well_laid_lawn!paste10:29
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mime1111http://paste.ubuntu.com/481358/10:29
well_laid_lawnk10:29
mime1111thanx u all10:29
well_laid_lawnthere's not a gnokii mentioned in that10:30
mime1111what i have to do? i dont know...10:31
mime1111im a bit newb10:31
well_laid_lawnit's not something I've come across before10:31
mime1111reinstall lucid?10:31
well_laid_lawnhave you changed much?10:32
well_laid_lawnit's about twenty minutes to reinstall10:32
well_laid_lawn!clone10:32
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate10:32
mime1111no, i didnt do anything, just after a fresh install trying to install unrar via synaptic and konsole, didnt let me...10:32
well_laid_lawn!info unrar10:33
ubottuunrar (source: unrar-nonfree): Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.9.3-1 (lucid), package size 100 kB, installed size 248 kB10:33
well_laid_lawndid you do the cd check when you booted it?10:33
mime1111root@Mime:~# !info unrar10:33
mime1111bash: !info: event not found10:33
well_laid_lawnthat's not a terminal command it is a bot command10:34
well_laid_lawn!bot10:34
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mime1111how i chek it?10:34
well_laid_lawnwhen the cd boots there should be a menu - one entry is to check the cd10:35
mime1111ok10:35
mime1111cya and thnx10:35
well_laid_lawnI can't think of anything else sorry :]10:36
mime1111hey lawn, no errors after checkdisc10:44
well_laid_lawnk10:45
well_laid_lawnI can't think of anything else sorry :]10:47
mime1111reinstall lucid?10:47
mime1111ok np, thank you for ur time10:47
mime1111thanK YOU A LOOOOOOOOOOOT10:48
mime1111cya10:48
otto___tcpdump doesn't seem to be dumping anything..10:58
otto___do i need to set the interface?10:58
otto___i tried cat /etc/network/interfaces10:59
otto___it shows auto lo and iface inet loopback10:59
otto___sudo tcpdump -i "auto lo" but i get auto lo: No such device11:00
mime1111lawn? iinstalling a new fresh copy did the trick!11:18
u1106-laptopdoes anybody know what apt-xapian is used for in kubuntu?11:22
u1106-laptopaccording to discussions in ubuntuforums it is used to enable quick searching in Synaptics11:22
u1106-laptopbut Synaptics is not in kubuntu11:23
u1106-laptopand there are no dependencies to package apt-xapian-index in Kubuntu at all11:24
raddyHello Everybody11:57
raddyI am experiencing two major issues after installing KDE4 in Ubuntu11:58
raddyI always have to input password to mount NTFS drives :(11:58
Riddellmounting hard disks is a privilaged operation so it will need a password11:59
raddyRiddell: don't defend it, Gnome doesn't require it.11:59
Riddellum, ok, cheerio12:00
raddyCan anybody help me in solving it?12:00
raddyIt shall mount automatically by fstab right?12:01
uruk-haiHello!12:13
uruk-haiI'm trying to compile source code of dragonplayer, but cmake get this error: http://pastebin.ca/192189012:15
uruk-haican anybody help me?12:15
uruk-haisorry for my bad english..12:15
Torchuruk-hai: kde and qt version? dragon player version? also, did you make sure you have the required devel packages installed?12:22
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uruk-haiqt 4.7.0, kde 4.5.0, dragonplayer 2.012:26
Torchuruk-hai: you're probably missing kde devel packages12:27
Torchuruk-hai:check if kdelibs5-dev is installed12:28
joinerhi12:29
joinerhelp12:29
joinerMPlayer an VLC very slow playing mms:// streams12:29
uruk-haialready installed12:29
joineronly on KDE12:29
Torchuruk-hai: where did you get the dragon source?12:29
joineron Gnome they work fine12:29
joineri use Ati free driver12:30
uruk-haiapt-get source dragonplayer12:30
Torchuruk-hai: you cannot run cmake in the dragonplayer subdir, you're aware of that?12:31
tranquilwatershey! anyone here that can help me with a wine-problem? I can only start my bigfish game in an emulated desktop and it is very very very slow :( I don't know how to fix it12:31
uruk-haino, why?12:32
Torchuruk-hai: you have to run cmake for the whole of kdemultimedia12:32
Torchuruk-hai: then just run _make_ itself in the subdir.12:32
Torchuruk-hai: i.e. mkdir build;  cd build; cmake ..; cd dragonplayer; make12:33
Torchuruk-hai: the cmake for each subdir depends on the top dir.12:33
u1106-laptopuruk-hai: there should be 2 ways to build: a.) the KDE way, b.) the Debian (kubuntu) way12:35
u1106-laptopI cannot comment on a.) because I have never done it12:36
Torchu1106-laptop: you're mixing packaging and building12:36
u1106-laptopI have built several KDE packages using b.)12:36
u1106-laptopmethod a.) is 3 steps12:37
u1106-laptop1.) apt-get source (as you have already done it)12:37
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u1106-laptop2.) apt-get build-dep to get everything that is needed for building (the build dependencies)12:38
u1106-laptop3.) dpkg-buildpackage12:38
u1106-laptopof course internally method a.) will just use method b.)12:39
u1106-laptoptorch: sorry didn't get your comment12:39
u1106-laptopoops sorry, it should of course have been...12:41
uruk-haiyes! it's works!12:42
u1106-laptopmethod ***b.)*** is 3 steps12:42
uruk-haitorch, u1106-laptop: big thanks!12:42
u1106-laptopgreat you got it working12:42
u1106-laptopand: of course internally method ***b.)*** will just use method ***a.)***12:44
CruelCoke|Pup310KDE Ubuntu = vista of livecd linuxes13:07
CruelCoke|Pup310Puppy Linux wins, STFUbuntu vomits13:07
illunatic!info stfubuntu13:09
ubottuPackage stfubuntu does not exist in lucid13:09
illunaticCruelCoke|Pup310: i don't understand13:09
sergiociao13:19
sergio!list13:19
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joinerany idea13:20
joiner?13:20
joineri have all necessary codecs13:20
BluesKajHiyas folks13:30
threesomehi guys13:49
threesomewhere can I get docky 2.1.0?13:50
andihuhu13:53
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Guest64657hallo13:53
HandyGandyI have a Canon LiDE 100 scanner. I know that they put a backend for it into sane in their latest release ( June I think ). How long does it take for such changes to propagate out to kubuntu repositories?13:55
BluesKajHandyGandy, one thing you can do is enable all repos in your package manager , the canonical partners and other software sources,13:57
HandyGandyBluesKaj: I insist on doing it all by hand via apt-get.13:58
HandyGandySo how do I find which repositories the software is in?13:58
BluesKajHandyGandy, well then edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the # from the debs I mentioned , then sudo apt-get update13:59
BluesKajHandyGandy, I assume the driver would be included the sane kernel source repos14:04
alvinThe netbook edition looks nice, but can anyone tell me how to keep the netbook panel on top?14:16
AndreS_I waited a bit for the 64 bits version of KDE 4.5 to appear. It is still blocked for me (10.04), though many applications are not. Any idea what could be the issue? KPackageKit does not tell me what's blocking the update...14:22
ToxinPoweAndreS_: you have 4.5 on backports ppa14:23
AndreS_Yes.14:24
AndreS_I have that repo in my list of sources.14:24
ToxinPoweand sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade doesn't work?14:24
AndreS_But the actual packages, especially the kde-base package, appears as blocked, so I can not install it.14:24
AndreS_ToxinPowe: actually, that does seem to work. Thanks.14:26
ToxinPowenp14:26
Asininehas anyone successfully gotten everyquest to work with ubuntu i managed to but theres no models14:33
darthvaderI'm having some performance problems, running kde 4.5.0 (from backports) using a Geforce 6600 GT. It14:38
darthvaderAny known problems with that particular setup that woulod cause these problems?14:39
ToxinPowenop, no with nvidia cards14:39
darthvaderOk, thanks.14:39
vipinbhi all14:41
vipinbany tool in Kubuntu I can use for audio chat??14:41
vipinbFor example in gtalk14:41
Asinineyes14:43
vipinbcan you please tell me which is that14:43
Asinineit involves compiling look it up im not to keen on google apts14:45
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tranquilwatersvipinb: there is a skype for l inux now, I don't know how far along gtalk for linux is already14:46
tranquilwatersthere are other voip clients as well14:46
vipinbGnome there is a tool called pidgin14:46
vipinbI that we can run allthings14:46
vipinbI Kubuntu is there anything like that14:46
Unksivipinb: kopete, though i dont know if it can handle audio chat14:47
Unksiyou can still install pidgin if you wish though14:47
vipinbNo  It can't handle14:47
Asininegonna try changing my graphics drivers for nvidia to 17314:48
vipinbBut It is link keeping gnome dependency and KDE togather14:48
vipinbis there anything in Kubuntu I can use14:48
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Asininehey14:49
Asininetheres empathy14:49
Asinine= )14:49
vipinbok14:49
BluesKajdarthvader, check kmenu/system/hardware drivers and choose the recomended driver and install it .14:51
Asininewelp i helped someone out 1 up for me lol14:51
Asinineim gonna install that one back if this one doesent work14:52
Asininefor some reason everything shows up but character models14:52
Asinineand so forth14:52
Asininethe world is visible14:52
Zouloubonjour14:53
Zoulouje cherche de l'aide pour amarock14:53
darthvaderBluesKaj: thanks, but it's already installed. Desktop effects are working, it's just that everything from resizing a window to minimizing it is painfully slow/choppy.14:54
BluesKajdarthvader, run system monitor , you may have an operation using up cpu process14:55
darthvaderBluesKaj: Yeah, xorg is using up to 30 percent CPU. I guess i cant do anything about that?15:03
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daniel_existe alguien que hable español... gracias15:24
ToxinPowedaniel_: creo q existe un canal #kubuntu-es15:25
daniel_muchas gracias15:25
mime1111lawn gnome?15:26
guest__moin15:27
slow-motionhi16:23
redlanhola, alguien que hable español?16:24
redlannecesito asistencia con un problema.. :D16:24
Asininewhat would one do to become a mirror for Ubuntu17:03
Hydrant_hey all... does anyone know how to disable this *extremely* annoying "upgrade to latest distro" message in Kubuntu?  It's really getting on my nerves, and I haven't been able to disable it so far.17:20
amichairis there a good & powerful GUI utility for search & replace (with regex, multiple files, patterns, etc.)?17:30
Hydrant_amichair: yes... I forget the name though17:33
Hydrant_just do an apt-cache search regex and see what you get17:33
Hydrant_http://www.blackie.dk/KDE/KRegExpEditor/17:34
amichairHydrant_: thanks, checking it out17:39
amichairhmm... that looks like a regex editor, not a utility to apply regexes to multiple files, see the diffs, that kind of stuff (and it's not in repos)17:46
Hydrant_okay17:46
Hydrant_why aren't you just using sed and diff then ?17:46
Hydrant_if you want to do something crazy, use bash and the right tools17:46
amichairHydrant_: I do for some things, but I find myself wasting too much time figuring out how to do things, rather than just doing them17:47
amichairI recall some GUI utils in windows that make all of that a breeze, and there's probably equivalents in qt/kde or even gnome...17:47
u1106-laptopamichair: what exactly do you want to do? rename files?17:48
Hydrant_amichair: well, complaining about windows utilities will do nothing for you here... there are better things here... and trust me you will like the tools once you learn them17:48
Hydrant_I have done some very crazy things with regular expressions17:48
Hydrant_ask what you need to know, and learn ;-)17:49
amichairI'm no complaining about windows, just asking if there is an open equivalent to some pretty simple tools17:49
u1106-laptopin some cases I find it useful to write 1-time-scripts17:49
amichairthe last thing I had to do, for example, is go through a directory structure, and in all html files add a js code snippet before the existing closing head tag17:50
Hydrant_okay very easy17:50
Hydrant_do you know sed ?17:50
amichairI played around with find+sed for a couple hours, googled, tried all sorts of things... couldn't get anything to work17:50
Hydrant_or just the basics17:50
Hydrant_okay17:50
Hydrant_I think there might be a #sed17:50
amichairand all that time, I could have been doing something productive :-)17:50
Hydrant_that's a lie17:50
Hydrant_sed is a very good tool, but very complicated17:51
Hydrant_however, you can do some amazing things with just a little bit of knowledge17:51
amichairoh and the snippet is in another file. sed has the option to insert that file after a pattern is found, but not before. or at least I found no indication otherwise.17:51
u1106-laptopthe first part is easy: find somewhere -name \*.html | xargs ...17:51
Hydrant_right17:51
amichairu1106-laptop: that part I got.17:52
Hydrant_then you can do a find -exec {}; or whatever it is17:52
u1106-laptopthe second one is not that easy17:52
Hydrant_so... find files with the name... exec the sed script17:52
Hydrant_the sed script is probably better as a bash script17:52
Hydrant_so... you have replacejs.sh17:52
u1106-laptopyou can use sed, awk, you private perl, python or whatever script17:52
Hydrant_and then do find ... -exec ./replacejs.sh {};17:52
Hydrant_right17:53
Hydrant_python can be pretty useful, but I would learn sed17:53
Hydrant_it's pretty amazing17:53
Hydrant_sed also has a replace-in-place17:53
u1106-laptopbut I don't think there is a generic tool to make such file modifications17:53
Hydrant_and, if you have version control it's pretty simple to check for diffs17:53
Hydrant_see... very easy17:53
Hydrant_you don't need some UI tool... and once you learn sed, you can do all sorts of amazing things which will greatly increase your productivity17:54
Hydrant_a helpful o'reilly book on sed/awk might also make your life very nice17:54
amichairI can, and would love to, learn everything to learn about those tools and bash etc... if I have the time. But sometimes, I do need to get work done, and don't have the time for being forced to learn all those things in between.17:54
amichairI always do my best to try and learn, google, etc. but spending hours, rather than minutes, to do it - is often a luxury I don't have.17:55
u1106-laptopi cannot imagine any generic tool with nice gui interface to do quite arbitrary file modifications17:55
chevelle_http://www.guiadecalles.pe/17:55
u1106-laptopthat sounds like a programming task and to do it you have to program17:56
u1106-laptopthen there are of course easier and more difficult programming enviroments. The problem is that not everything fits every problem17:57
amichairyes, I can write a program to do it. But again, it's a matter of time and productivity.17:57
amichair(don't worry, I ain't going back to Windows ;-) )17:57
Hydrant_amichair: your time management is not my concern... learning tools is very important, and will pay off... if you think about it... if you had just ordered a sed / awk book from amazon.. or a book on bash scripting... you could look up your answers :-)17:58
u1106-laptopI would really be interested in seeing that application that replaces such programming jobs (just for curiousity, don't care whether it's Windows or not)17:58
Hydrant_you get experience from doing these things ;-)17:58
amichairGUIs don't exist just for noobs and fools... visual tools are actually often more productive.17:58
Hydrant_we can help you through the process17:58
Hydrant_sit down and start writing, paste code snippets, and we'll help17:58
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amichairHydrant_: I am learning, a whole lot, but it's incremental.18:00
amichairand there are too many things to learn at this point in history, and profession18:01
Hydrant_amichair: if you need help, I'm here... if you don't that's fine too... I'm just as busy as you are, but I volunteer to help people like you online18:02
amichairwhat tools would you use in a bash script other than sed to do something like this?18:02
Hydrant_sed would be my first choice18:02
Hydrant_my second would be Python18:02
Hydrant_oh.. actually you know what18:02
Hydrant_there is a python program that works very well18:02
Hydrant_let me see if I can remember the name18:02
amichairok, is there an equivalent to sed's r argument that inserts a file before, rather than after, the matched expression?18:02
Hydrant_did you do man sed ?18:03
amichairyes18:03
Hydrant_what I would do is very simple18:03
Hydrant_s/</head>/script.js</head>/g18:03
Hydrant_which isn't correct syntax, but you get the idea18:03
u1106-laptopamichair: my experience is that bash scripts become quickly unproductive. If it's not obvious how to do it in a couple of lines, don't start using bash18:03
Hydrant_you search for the end, replace the end with what you want and put the end back in18:04
Hydrant_easy18:04
u1106-laptopuse Python or Perl instead18:04
Hydrant_the place to use full crazyness is if you have strange things... like comments you need to handle, and there is some context there18:04
u1106-laptopif you can do it with sed, use sed18:04
amichairHydrant_: that puts the string 'script.js' in the file, not the actual snippet that's in the file18:04
Hydrant_amichair: I know that18:04
Hydrant_but you get the idea18:05
u1106-laptopif sed has not enough context use awk18:05
amichairHydrant_: so I don't understand how it solves the problem18:05
Hydrant_you have a few options18:05
u1106-laptopbut a with bash, don't try to write really complicated awk things18:05
amichairHydrant_: I get the idea, just as I did yesterday - that it's almost possible, but actually not, to do this with sed18:05
Hydrant_you just need to escape the script.js file to be put in that way18:05
Hydrant_also, I'm not a sed expert18:06
Hydrant_but yes, there is a #sed I checked18:06
amichairwhat do you mean by escaping the script?18:06
Hydrant_they can help you in 2 seconds18:06
Hydrant_I have to look up documentation and think, those people are going to be experts and just tell you18:06
amichairHydrant_: good to know, I'll ask there next time I'm stuck (thanks)18:06
Hydrant_you seem stuck now18:06
Hydrant_ask them what you just asked me18:06
Hydrant_you want to search, and replace with a file contents18:07
Hydrant_I'd be curious to know how to do it when you find out too18:07
amichairHydrant_: then join me there, and let's find out :-)18:07
amichairu1106-laptop: thanks for you input too :-)18:10
rorkyou might want to have a look at perl too for mass edits: http://www.perl.com/pub/2004/10/14/file_editing.html18:10
u1106-laptopyou are welcome, I would just liked to hear the name of the nice GUI tool you mentioned18:11
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Asininefor what laptop18:12
ultram4xHello18:14
Asininehi18:14
ultram4xhi, I have a question, can u help me?18:14
amichairu1106-laptop: I think the one that was used in my previous workspace was simply called 'Search and Replace'18:14
amichair(and was not free)18:15
amichairmostly using regexes, it also allowed pattern matching for the file to work on, preview (per file) of the diff, etc. Also very handy for just the search part (results were editable themselves)18:16
rorkultram4x: that would depend on the question, but that's what some of us are here for so go ahead and ask :)18:16
ultram4xwell,18:17
u1106-laptopamichair: ok, I can imagine how it works. it's basically a graphical frontend to find to select the files and a graphical frontend to sed to do the repalcements18:17
amichairyep, and a graphical fronend (expandable directory-tree style) to show the diffs and posisbly edit them18:18
amichairhence, generally a simple gui, which I imagine exists also in the foss world18:18
amichairbut very convenient and powerful and quick to use18:19
u1106-laptopI agree that it might be easier to use. But I have used find for 20+ years so I can cope with it. And I try to avoid to use sed, at least when tricky quoting issues are involved ;)18:19
amichairI got used to find more or less now (though excluding .svn dirs is something I always have to remember how to do)18:19
amichairwhat do you use instead of sed?18:19
u1106-laptopit might exist18:20
ultram4xi installed kubuntu 10.04 by windows (wubi) and i want to resize the partition because  i need more space... i tried many things and nothing..18:20
u1106-laptopwell the problem is not with sed, but with quoting in the shell when more tricky strings are involved18:21
amichairultram4x: resize a partition, or the wubi file containing the virtual one?18:22
amichairultram4x: a real partition you can resize with gparted/qparted/parted18:23
ultram4xyes, the wubi file containing the virtual18:23
amichairultram4x: the special wubi file - I couldn't find a simple way to expand, last time I checked (a couple months ago). Would love to hear an answer if someone figured this out...18:23
amichairultram4x: if I recall correctly, the suggestion I got was to migrate it to a real partition, then continue from there18:24
ultram4xI guess I have no choice, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20resize%20the%20virtual%20disks?18:26
ultram4xI did that and didnt works18:27
amichairwhoops... the little close tab icon which closes a tab in Konsole, kills the entire connection in Konversation!18:29
ultram4x:P18:31
KukuNutwhy did konsole added an extra/redundant 'shell' in the new tab menu? Instead of 1 click now you are forced to do 2 clicks18:32
KukuNutwhat else could a new tab be but a shell?18:33
ultram4xplease someone have a solution?18:33
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niteyei deleted my swap partition and created (and then activated) a new one, everything goes great except that hibernate (suspend to disk) doesnt work, it does some stuff and then shuts down but when rebooting it just does a normal boot instead19:03
amichairniteye: is the new swap large enough to hold all of RAM (probably plus a bit more)?19:18
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niteyeamichair: yep it is, thats the reason why i recreated new swap because it was too small before (now its 9Gb and i have 4Gb RAM)19:59
niteyebefore when i had too little ram, it told me so in an error message, now it doesnt say anything though either20:00
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Guest41528jak odpalić safari20:23
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mime1111hey gnome i install a fresh one and installed unrar correctly20:26
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Daskreech\o/20:50
DaskreechHello everyone!20:51
DaskreechWhat's the rofs21:09
Daskreechon a live CD?21:09
Asininedoes ubuntu have any good development qualities21:17
DaskreechAsinine: as much as any other UNIX environment21:17
Asininedoes it have a c++ compiler21:17
frxstremis there a way to enter Unicode characters in KDE (like I did Ctrl+Shift+U and the hexadecimal value of the character in GNOME, and Alt + decimal value of it on Windows)?21:17
DaskreechAsinine: yes21:21
Daskreechfrxstrem: Check out Skim21:21
frxstremDaskreech: «Skim is a PDF reader and note-taker for OS X.» (I googled it) Is this what you mean?21:22
Asininewhat is better kubuntu or gnome21:22
Daskreechno21:24
DaskreechAsinine: Different things. That;s like asking which is better Windows or Winamp21:24
Daskreechfrxstrem: http://www.scim-im.org/projects/skim21:25
frxstremokay...by the way, I found it, I just had to look a little bit further..21:25
Daskreech:-)21:26
frxstremDaskreech: this is a bit unclear to me, but what does Skim really do?21:29
Asininewhats better for development21:31
Asinineand optimizing resources21:31
Daskreechfrxstrem: allows easier input of Locales and international chars21:33
DaskreechCan't say i've made extensive use of it it's been maybe 3 years since last time I had great need for it21:33
DaskreechAsinine: What are my choices?21:33
Asinineoh21:34
Asininekde or gnome21:34
DaskreechAsinine: simply a preference. The underlying tools that you will use to do the work are the same21:35
Asininei know but witch uses less resources21:36
DaskreechAsinine: What type of development will you be doing21:36
Daskreechor you are interested in?21:36
AsinineC++ game dev working on redistributing enhanced source for the planeshift project21:37
Asininealso i do eqemulator servers21:37
DaskreechAsinine: both will work equally well what dev environment do you use now?21:39
Asinineim new to linux im using the default install21:39
DaskreechAsinine: I meant what were you using before you started looking into linux21:40
Asininewindows was using visual basic21:40
Asininewait21:40
Asininevisual studios 200821:41
Daskreechok21:41
Asininei gotta restart after i get your oppinion21:41
Asinineim gonna reboot with kde and see how it is21:41
Daskreechok was it .NET type work?21:41
DaskreechAsinine: Ah you are on Ubuntu now?21:42
Daskreech you booting live Cds?21:42
Asinine?21:42
DaskreechYou said you are rebooting into KDE21:42
DaskreechI'm guessing you are using a Live CD?21:43
Asinineoh21:43
Asininei dont know i installed it from packages21:43
Daskreechoh you should be able to just logout and back in21:44
Asinineok brb21:44
Daskreechk21:44
DaskreechAsinine: wait21:44
Daskreechin KDE you will need quassel to log back in21:45
Daskreechok21:45
Daskreech:)21:45
DaskreechAsinine should find it back21:45
wilhartehm21:45
wilharti hawe twinview and all applications start in second display (projector)21:45
wilharthur can i fix this21:45
wilhartOption ?TwinViewOrientation? ?LeftOf?21:54
wilhartis this it?21:54
Daskreechhi JontheEchidna21:54
wilhartanyone?21:58
Daskreechwilhart: sorry don't play with that stuff. perhaps it's a setting in the driver?22:03
wilhartDaskreech: dunno22:09
Daskreechwilhart: check the driver configuration tool22:17
wilhartDaskreech: i checked it and tried awerything22:22
wilharti tried ewverything help please22:23
Daskreechwilhart: did you set a default screen?22:24
wilhartDaskreech: yep hmm PCI what is that22:27
wilharthwo do i see what monitor is PCI22:27
wilhartbusid22:27
wilhartDaskreech: default screen in xorg.conf ? how22:27
Daskreechwilhart: Well if twinview is exporting each screen as distinct then it could have your second screen as the main one and puts all new Window IDs there22:35
wilhartDaskreech: complex22:38
wilharthow do i edit my xorg.conf then22:38
Daskreechwilhart: Might want to jump into a more focused channel22:40
Daskreechnvidia drivers?22:40
wilhartehm22:40
CoJaBoIs it possible to use Compiz in Lucid? It installs, I just cant figure out how to actually switch it to use Compiz instead of Kwin (which doesnt do even half of what I want).22:59
well_laid_lawntry in konsole   compiz --replace23:00
CoJaBoThanks, lemme try...23:01
DaskreechCoJaBo: yes you can. try compiz --replace (or kwin --replace to jump back) or install the compiz control manager23:02
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CoJaBoDaskreech: I've installed the config manager, but it doesnt have an option (that I can find) to actually set Compiz as the window manager.23:07
DaskreechCoJaBo: ccsm ?23:08
CoJaBoYes23:08
Daskreechused to be able to right click it and choose23:08
CoJaBoRight click what?23:09
Daskreechthe systray icon23:09
CoJaBoIn the Hardy alpha, there was a tool "advanced desktop effects" that I used to make the switch. That is no longer present, it seems, in Lucid.23:10
DaskreechCoJaBo: i think it's just shipped by default now23:11
andrew_708476IS there anyone who is good with Ubuntu in this room23:11
Daskreechandrew_708476: There is a lot in #ubuntu :)23:12
andrew_708476yes I know23:12
andrew_708476but there all asleep23:12
CoJaBoDaskreech: It was probably removed as it was primarily used to enable the Kwin effects, which are default now. But that means I need to find another way to enable Compiz. Any ideas?23:12
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DaskreechCoJaBo: compiz --replace ?23:17
CoJaBoDaskreech: Found it- its under "Default Applicatons" now- however, loading Compiz segfaults the kde4-window-decorator, is there any way to fix that?23:20
DaskreechCoJaBo: Ah right :)23:20
DaskreechCoJaBo: install emerald ?23:20
CoJaBoI thought Compiz had its own decorator23:20
CoJaBoAh, emerald! That might have been it.23:20
* Daskreech shrugs. :)23:20
* CoJaBo tries..23:20
CoJaBoDaskreech: Any idea how to set Emerald to load on startup? It seems to work if I start emerald manually, but it still tries to use the KDE decorator on boot.. :/23:40
DaskreechCoJaBo: set it as startup I think. Though in theory if you set it once then logout that should be set as default for the next login23:40
well_laid_lawneasiest way is to use ccsm23:48
well_laid_lawn!info ccsm23:48
ubottuPackage ccsm does not exist in lucid23:48
well_laid_lawn!ccsm23:48
ubottuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz23:48
CoJaBowell_laid_lawn: How do I choose the window decorator to use as default?23:49
illunatic!tty23:49
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution.23:49
well_laid_lawnI don't use compiz - just seen it mentioned that ccsm is the easiest way to set it up23:50
CoJaBowell_laid_lawn: I have compiz set up- the issue is that on boot, KDE window Decorator segfaults. I have to load Emerald manually, which works, but is there any way to make it load Emerald instead of the KDE decorator so I dont have to do this every login?23:51
well_laid_lawnI would think in ccsm there would be an option to do that - if noone here knows try in #compiz23:52

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