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andidogHi guys. Can anyone log in to staging.launchpad.net? I always get "Password didn't match" error in the OpenID form. I'm registered with launchpad for several days now.00:08
wgrantandidog: staging is currently running a copy of the production database from 11 days ago.00:11
wgrantNot sure why it's so old.00:11
wgrantandidog: If your account is newer than that, create a new one at login.staging.launchpad.net.00:11
wgrantIt'll be overwritten when the next DB update happens.00:12
andidogwgrant: I thought I could only register on the production launchpad. Thanks for that hint ;)00:14
wgrantandidog: That used to be the case, but it's different now.00:14
MrQuincleDear people, at https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/GettingStarted I found a great guide.00:23
MrQuincleTo use recipes. It works locally.00:23
MrQuincleI was wondering, I have a public branch, but no option "Create packaging recipe" available on Launchpad.00:24
MrQuincleDo I have to do something for that?00:24
wgrantMrQuincle: What's the URL you're looking at?00:24
MrQuinclehttps://code.launchpad.net/~annevanrossum/robot3d/trunk00:24
wgrantMrQuincle: Recipes are still in beta, so they're only on the beta-testing server.00:25
wgranthttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~annevanrossum/robot3d/trunk00:25
MrQuincleAha :) So I can push them locally from my own machine if I want to. And use a cron tab on my own machine too.00:25
wgrantOr just throw 'edge.' in before 'launchpad.net' in the URL.00:25
wgrantedge uses the same database, just with newer code and extra features turned on.00:26
wgrantSo you can use it.00:26
MrQuincleCool!!00:26
MrQuincleThanks a lot! It is really great software!00:27
wgrantRecipe support still isn't perfect, but please report bugs if you run into any issues.00:27
MrQuincleI will, definitely.00:28
ari-tczewwgrant: do you maintain wiki.ubuntu.com?00:44
MrQuincleI guess when more and more things become automated you will need a large build farm.00:46
MrQuincleIt is possible to contribute a machine or is that too difficult?00:46
MrQuincleI would be happy to add the possibility to use a VM at our company. Perhaps with some "bias" regarding our own packages. ;-)00:47
askhlHi.  I've uploaded a po-file which has apparently deleted a large number of translation suggestions.  They are now translated as emptry strings by "me".  Apparently dpm and danilos weren't either.  How can this be undone?  This is pretty horrible.00:48
MrQuincleBut I guess not, you don't want to risk builds on "unknown" VMs probably...00:48
askhl...weren't aware that translation suggestions could be deleted like this, I mean.00:48
askhlIn any case: Lots of translations were discarded, and this needs to be reverted.00:49
askhlIn case nobody knows what do to, I would very much like to know who to talk to about it.  This is serious.00:51
askhlBugger.01:00
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wgrantari-tczew: No... the Canonical sysadmins do.01:07
wgrantaskhl: You'd be better asking on a European week day.01:07
wgrantIt's very early Saturday morning for all the Translations devs.01:07
askhlwgrant: unfortunately also for me, being in Europe.  It's 2 AM.  Is there some kind of log from which previous translations can be retrieved?01:12
wgrantaskhl: Translations is the one part of LP that I reallly don't know much about, sorry.01:13
askhlwgrant: thank you.01:15
* askhl cries.01:15
askhlwgrant: say, when does 'staging' reset?01:39
wgrantaskhl: It varies.01:40
wgrantIt's been almost two weeks since the last one.01:40
wgrantNot sure when the next will be.01:40
askhlWell, this is a chance to get those strings back...01:41
wgrantThey might just magically reappear if you revert your string changes, of course.01:41
askhlRevert how?01:42
wgrantI guess you really should talk to Translations people.01:46
wgrantBut maybe try to export PO files from staging now, just in case?01:46
askhlwgrant: right.  The thing is, there are 600 paragraphs in ubuntu-manual which are *suggestions*, but have not yet been accepted (under review).  Some strings disappeared mysteriously, one thing led to another, some of the Powers That Be advised me to upload a previously exported po-file.  Now all suggestions are gone.  I'll accept all the suggestions as quickly as possible in staging and export a po-file.  Sounds like a plan?01:48
wgrantI'd be wary about making large changes on staging.01:48
askhl(as they still exist in staging)01:48
askhlWell, if I can export something from staging, I have it locally, and it cannot be lost.  Right?01:49
wgrantWell, but then you've accepted all the potentially bad translations.01:49
wgrantIt'd be nice if we knew when it would next update.01:49
askhlwgrant: accepted in staging.  I can merge with other local files that actually contain the accepted ones.  It'll all work out *if* I can just export the sodding (excuse me) suggestions.01:50
wgrantI guess.01:50
wgrantWorth a try.01:50
askhlWe'll know exactly what needs to be proof-read.  The only problem is what you can and cannot do in LP01:51
wgrantaskhl: Ah, I guess if you have an export with the suggestions accepted and another without, you can work it out.01:54
wgrantSo, yeah, do it.01:54
askhlRather repetitive work, but luckily Adi Roiban implemented hot keys...02:03
askhlOnly catch is, I'm not sure you can export po-files from staging...02:10
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askhlRight, I'm running a script which wgets all 1647 single-string translation pages for the project.  Can't get it to export e-mails...02:36
wgrantAh, true, the export script doesn't run automatically.02:37
askhlWell, I guess that's `just another day at the office' then.02:38
askhlwgrant: I think this will actually work.  We'll see on Monday if the ordinary suggestions can be restored, otherwise I'll do some grepping and restore them from the html files.  Good night02:56
askhl(or good <whichever time it is where you are>)02:57
wgrantaskhl: Just hitting midday for me.02:58
wgrantGoodnight.02:58
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wzssyqahow to build for armel on ppa?12:06
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maxbUrgh. Build-Depends: git (>= 1:1.7.0.4-2) | git-core15:52
maxband the buildds install gnuit, not git15:53
shadeslayermaxb: make it hard dep on git-core?15:57
shadeslayersee it takes the first thing it can find15:57
shadeslayeroh15:57
shadeslayernvm me15:58
wzssyqahow to build for armel on ppa?16:00
shadeslayerwzssyqa: i think you need to specially apply for that16:04
wgrantIt's only for Canonical projects at the moment, I believe. The builders are few and slow, and security is not sufficient to permit public access.16:06
wzssyqawgrant: shadeslayer thanks16:07
shadeslayerwgrant: any idea if there was a new bzr-svn plugin release?16:08
jelmershadeslayer: new is relative. Since when ? :-)16:09
wgrantshadeslayer: On Launchpad? I don't know.16:09
shadeslayerjelmer: when was the last release? :D16:10
jelmershadeslayer: the last bzr-svn release was one and a half weeks ago I think.16:10
shadeslayeryou told me that there was going to be a new release sometime this month..i think..16:10
shadeslayerah ..16:10
jelmershadeslayer: there is a difference between bzr-svn releases and rollouts of bzr-svn on Launchpad16:10
jelmershadeslayer: launchpad does not roll out every single bzr-svn release, but sometimes we also deploy snapshots of bzr-svn (without an upstream release)16:11
shadeslayerjelmer: hmm.. so when was the last time a new bzr-svn landed in LP16:11
jelmerone and a half weeks ago as well16:11
shadeslayer:P16:11
jelmershadeslayer: I'm upstream for bzr-svn, but not in the launchpad code team16:11
shadeslayeroh!16:12
shadeslayeri thought you were with lp code team as well :D16:12
jelmershadeslayer: I'm in the Soyuz team16:13
shadeslayerjelmer: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/kdesupport/trunk << might just complete this time16:13
shadeslayer:P16:13
shadeslayeroh man16:13
shadeslayerwell ... im off for now ... cya later16:14
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gesermaxb: your build-dependency problem could be bug 59491617:14
ubot5Launchpad bug 594916 in Launchpad Auto Build System "buildd doesn't correctly check versioned ORed build-dependencies (affected: 1, heat: 7)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59491617:14
maxbah yes17:14
geserchanging the order so that git-core gets prefered should work around it17:17
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maxbAnyone around who can abort a build?18:11
maxbI seem to have hung builds of dulwich on louvi and rhenium18:12
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lifelessmaxb: you can cancel your own builds, i thought?20:21
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jelmerlifeless, nope21:03
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MuscovyIs there a way to make bzr download a specific revision instead of the newest one?22:34
shadeslayerMuscovy: yeah22:38
shadeslayerbzr branch foo -r rev22:38
MuscovyThanks.22:40
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