[00:48] <lamont> ScottK: this was me playing around with the buildd network firewall and possibly affecting NTP, which the buildd doesn't deal with very well
[00:48] <lamont> so manual to make sure nothing goes through the check while the daemon is resyncing
[00:48] <lamont> wgrant: testing your stuff ?  that's next
[01:00] <lamont> wgrant: got a favorite build to play with on staging?
[01:08] <wgrant> lamont: staging works now?
[01:08] <wgrant> But no, I don't play favourites when building on shitty buildds.
[01:08] <wgrant> I once chose hello, thinking it would take just a couple of minutes.
[01:08] <wgrant> It naturally took 2.5 hours.
[01:09] <wgrant> You probably have a better idea of what's going to build in a reasonable amount of time.
[01:09] <lamont> heh.  yeah - I can test this with bind9, so I'm just doing that with my prod ppa and some quick footwork
[01:10] <lamont> dear publisher. hurry up. kthx
[01:10] <wgrant> Ah, if it's a prod builder that should be fine...
[01:10] <wgrant> Why do you need a publisher?
[01:12] <lamont> well... got a ppa with a convenient test package?
[01:12] <lamont> I uploaded a package, you see
[01:12] <wgrant> But building and publishing are independent.
[01:13] <wgrant> (unless the PPA is private)
[01:13] <lamont> well, ok.  I wanted upload processing then
[01:13] <wgrant> Ah, right.
[01:15] <lamont> and test build is building now (berkelium)
[01:15]  * wgrant watches.
[01:15]  * wgrant watches buildd-manager fail.
[01:15] <lamont> I did not expect to ever be thankful that all the other buildds were busy with really long builds
[01:15] <lamont> ?
[01:15] <wgrant> Well, it's slow.
[01:15] <wgrant> So we won't see much log for a while, probably.
[01:16] <lamont> unpacking chroot
[01:16] <wgrant> Hm, I guess since everything else is busy, it's being speedy.
[01:16] <lamont> one of the other fixes in this is to flush stdout better in the early stages
[01:16] <lamont> fewer builders atm, too
[01:17] <wgrant> A lot of the problem is buildd-manager latency, though.
[01:17] <lamont> checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[01:17] <lamont> checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[01:17] <lamont> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[01:18] <lamont> wgrant: dear sir, please to propose your branch for merging, so that I can +1 it.  that is all. kthx.
[01:19] <wgrant> lamont: Is it easy enough to set it in LP to i386, and get a build dispatched?
[01:19] <wgrant> Just to check that that still actually works too.
[01:19] <wgrant> Since that is sorta the whole point of the change :)
[01:21] <lamont> you're killing me. :-p
[01:21]  * lamont applies the big hammer again
[01:22] <lamont> Building i386 build of bind9 1:9.7.1.dfsg.P2-2 in ubuntu lucid RELEASE [lamont/ppa]
[01:22] <wgrant> Now, let's hope it works.
[01:23] <lamont> world order restored, I'll let this build finish
[01:23] <wgrant> Thanks.
[01:25] <lamont> and not just because I was only totally lucky on the timing that let me see those lines in the output on the amd64 run
[01:26] <wgrant> Heh.
[01:26] <lamont> -I./x86_32/include <-- but I'm hopeful
[01:28] <wgrant> Yeah.
[01:31] <lamont> wgrant: lp:~lamont/launchpad/lp-buildd-70 rev 11407 is what I plan to deploy on monday
[01:31] <lamont> just pushed now, with changelog for rev 70
[01:32] <wgrant> Looks good to me.
[01:32] <wgrant> i386 build finishing up now.
[01:32] <wgrant> And it works. Yay.
[01:32] <wgrant> Thanks.
[01:33] <lamont> checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[01:33] <lamont> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[01:33] <lamont> \o/
[01:33] <lamont> so... got any bzr-builder knowledge?
[01:33] <wgrant> A little. You want to test that change?
[01:34] <lamont> not really so much, no.
[01:35] <lamont> I'll just plan on making them what wrote the change test it with me on monday before the rollout
[01:35] <wgrant> Ah. Well, it's a pretty binary works-or-not thing that's easy to test.
[01:35] <wgrant> james_w speculated last night that it might not.
[01:35] <lamont> he had a patch for me this morning
[01:35] <lamont> which is also in 70
[01:36] <lamont> test cases are: (1) does it work on maverick (2) does it still work elsewhere
[01:36] <wgrant> That can easily be tested now, if you want.
[01:37] <lamont> I figured I'd let the build queue get smaller , while I have a weekend
[01:38] <wgrant> Ah, fair point.
[02:06] <sistpoty> robbiew, skat: are both of you reading the ubuntu-release ml? Just had some (yet entirely uncoordinated) thoughts about growing the release-team, that I tried to formulate in a mail sent there