[00:00] <aeon-ltd> fester: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
[00:00] <fester> thanks
[00:00] <ezy> aeon-ltd, ^cheeky thanks. this is good enough for me :-)
[00:00] <aeon-ltd> fester: wrong link soz
[00:00] <fester> oh no
[00:00] <fester> yea, i don't want to do that
[00:00] <aeon-ltd> fester: correct one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=321156
[00:00] <Poker> nikitis, mm thanks
[00:01] <murielgodoi> How can I disable BlueProximity from autorun? I tested it once but now it loas on every boot.
[00:01] <nikitis> dogmatic69, Read up on permissions.  each of those digit values represents access. one digit is premissions for any users
[00:01] <hiexpo> looks like a train wreck
[00:01] <nikitis> dogmatic69, one for owners, and one for group members
[00:02] <hiexpo> fester,  backup all your files and do a fresh install
[00:02] <fester> hiexpo: i just did that
[00:02] <fester> hiexpo: i'm sitting on a fresh install now
[00:02] <fester> what's a good way to upgrade the kernel? just use the mainline?
[00:02] <fester> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.35-rc1-lucid/
[00:02] <hiexpo> fester,  oh what distro ? and it did not work   ?
[00:02] <nikitis> dogmatic69, first digit is for those who own the files.  Which would be the owner of the vhost.  He will want full permission so 7
[00:03] <fester> hiexpo: using lucid
[00:03] <fester> trying to get kernel >= 2.6.33 to work
[00:03] <hiexpo> fester,  what you have before?
[00:03] <fester> with fglrx
[00:03] <nikitis> dogmatic69, 2nd digit is for the group members, say, you and the owner.  5 or 7 will suffice  7 giving read write and execute
[00:03] <fester> hiexpo: i had working system, but no TRIM support
[00:04] <hiexpo> fester,  was ubuntu also before ?
[00:04] <^cheeky> erUSUL: so a logical drive could be my swap partition and /hom and also / ?
[00:04] <fester> yes
[00:04] <^cheeky> */hom /home
[00:04] <hiexpo> fester,  9.10 ?
[00:04] <fester> no, 10.04
[00:04] <fester> that's what i have now, just fresh install
[00:04] <segaloco> (sorry about all the popping in and popping out) anyway, anyone know if there are logs of every boot or attempted boot stored somewhere?
[00:04] <segaloco> i wanna see if there is something grub isnt telling me
[00:04] <fester> since i broke fglrx with the kernel upgrade
[00:05] <erUSUL> ^cheeky: a extended partition can hold up to 63 logical partitions. you can put what ever you want in them. swap home / etc...
[00:05] <wildbat> hi~ anyone happen to get "gnome-terminal --tab" working?~ it keep open new windwos instead of tab
[00:05] <nikitis> dogmatic69, the last digit is access for any user who is there in that directory.  if that number is too low, and i'm there, i won't be able to see it
[00:05] <hiexpo> fester,  so 10.04 is giving you lots of  problems ?
[00:05] <edbian> wildbat, Well your problem is that you're calling a second instance of the program when you type gnome-terminal --tab
[00:05] <nikitis> if it's 5, i can read and execute files, but not write to them
[00:06] <hiexpo> fester,  may i suggest 9.10
[00:06] <edbian> wildbat, Once a GUI program has been launched there typically is not a cli interface left behind it.  What this means is that I don't think it's possible to open a new tab in your gnome-terminal window from the cli.
[00:06] <fester> hiexpo: no, it was working before, but i went to upgrade the kernel so that i can have TRIM support, and flgrx broke, it would either cause a black screen and not boot, or it would have severe scrambled screen
[00:07] <dogmatic69> nikitis: cool thanks
[00:07] <dogmatic69> ill figure them out
[00:07] <hiexpo> fester,  and all you did was sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get upgrade /
[00:08] <wildbat> edbian, oh ! ~ that's what i want but oh well ~ thanks.
[00:08] <edbian> wildbat, Yep. Sorry! :(
[00:08] <hiexpo> sup edbian
[00:08] <edbian> hiexpo, Hey.
[00:08] <fester> no, i used http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.35-rc1-lucid/
[00:09] <fester> i wonder if i should use http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/
[00:09] <murielgodoi> Hi guys, How can I disable BlueProximity from autoload on every boot?
[00:09] <edbian> murielgodoi, Uninstall it.
[00:10] <fester> this says that 2.6.35 is officially available for 10.04 but i don't know how to install it other than through the mainline http://www.ubuntugeek.com/kernel-2-6-35-officially-available-for-ubuntu-10-04.html
[00:10] <murielgodoi> edbian: I would like to keep it and use just when I need to. Is there a way for that?
[00:10] <edbian> murielgodoi, Does it show up in System -> Pref -> Start Up ??
[00:11] <hiexpo> fester,  you no i am on 9.10 have been since day one and would probably be the same on 10.04  sudo apt- get update than upgrade updates the kernal best way i have seen never have had an issue
[00:12] <hiexpo> lately i have been getting kernal update weekly
[00:12] <mneptok> "kernel"
[00:13] <hiexpo> ^
[00:13] <rww> fester: I believe that article is inaccurate.
[00:13] <MichealH> heixpo: Well, put it this way... At least your drivers and new and polisehed
[00:14] <hiexpo> 4 year old lappy guess i am lucky huh
[00:14] <MichealH> *polished
[00:14] <MichealH> Yup
[00:14] <hiexpo> good lappy  so i bought a spare same one :)
[00:15] <hiexpo> everything is supported
[00:16] <hiexpo> hp did ok on this one
[00:16] <fester> i'm going to try this http://theubuntunews.blogspot.com/2010/08/install-new-kernel-2635-on-ubuntu-1004.html
[00:16] <segaloco> if it helps any, here's a dmesg log from the last successful boot, with a big line of [00:16] <segaloco> http://pastebin.com/eS80f0J0
[00:16] <hiexpo> sup KE1HA
[00:17] <i2c> ok listen to this, I had a ubuntu 10.04 beat install that I updated via update manager, then I reinstalled with a 10.04LTS and now when I install skype and teamviewer neither of them work
[00:18] <KE1HA> hiexpo, was just testing some desktops
[00:18] <hiexpo> KE1HA,  which ones
[00:18] <KE1HA> compiz and metalcity
[00:18] <KE1HA> themes I should say
[00:18] <murielgodoi> edbian: found it here... The brazillian portuguese translation is not clear for this app
[00:19]  * murielgodoi thanks edbian
[00:19] <hiexpo> i2c,  what is beat install
[00:19] <edbian> murielgodoi, Ha ha.  Glad you fixed it! :D
[00:20] <DirtBAG256> gosh that reg email process is a bit*h
[00:20] <segaloco> wait, did versions prior to 10.04 use mountall and plymouth?
[00:20] <Visine> hey, the minimize, exit and maximize buttons are gone my current install. Has anyone ever run into this?
[00:20] <Visine> or have any ideas?
[00:21] <dogmatic69> how do i open a file with some other program, right click open with (the one i want is not listed)
[00:21] <edbian> Visine, metacity --replace& in a terminal
[00:21] <ZykoticK9> Visine, "metacity --replace" then "compiz --replace"
[00:21] <edbian> Visine, Your window decorator (metacity) has crashed.
[00:21] <Visine> ok thanks guys, I will try it now
[00:21] <DirtBAG256> dogmatic69: open your program firsr the open your file in question
[00:22] <rww> segaloco: plymouth is new, mountall was in karmic (but didn't depend plymouth there)
[00:22] <Visine> that worked
[00:22] <Visine> thank you
[00:22] <hiexpo> kool
[00:25] <hiexpo> MichealH,  - you from ca ?
[00:27] <segaloco> hmm, thats probably whats up then
[00:28] <DirtBAG256> faithless IM feeling good
[00:28] <segaloco> i jsut cant seem to remove it now, its whats crapping up my bootup
[00:28] <segaloco> it says EVERYTHING depends on it now... how was that not the case before i installed it <_<
[00:29] <FBP> Hi. I just installed the nvidia drivers and enabled having two screens. I think, however, that I did something wrong because I can not seem to move anything between the screens
[00:29] <segaloco> hmm... i wonder if i could pull of this chroot black magic with a different kernel, probably not huh
[00:29] <MichealH> FBP:Been in the actual control panel?
[00:29] <FBP> I did learn about gnome panels after deleting half of them on accident.
[00:29] <ZykoticK9> FBP, you need to use TwinView and not Separate X in order to move from screen to screen
[00:29] <FBP> Ok. That was not made clear
[00:30] <hiexpo> compiz
[00:30] <MichealH> FBP, Ststem > Admin > NVide settings manager
[00:30] <segaloco> you know what, im just gonna install xubuntu, and chroot the wifi, its not a permanent fix, but it can be a long term one, i just need this computer usable for school
[00:30] <basix-> i've been in #ubuntu-unregged wondering why no ones talking for the past hour
[00:30] <FBP> Ok
[00:31] <basix-> lol
[00:31] <FBP> Is there a way to restart X without restarting ubuntu?
[00:31] <segaloco> i am really intent on repairing my ubuntu install though, did a LOT of work getting that set up how i like
[00:31] <Visine> yy
[00:31] <segaloco> FBP sudo service gdm restart
[00:31] <Visine> hgtfghfghfggffhgfy
[00:31] <hiexpo> segaloco,  what wifi probs you having ?
[00:31] <MichealH> Basix- what is that channel?
[00:31] <segaloco> its not wifi, well, just getting wifi working AGAIN, its my ubuntu that it actually works on not booting due to plymouth
[00:31] <segaloco> my wifi is just being stupid on other systems im trying to install temporarily so i have SOMETHING
[00:32] <basix-> sends you there when you join #ubuntu with an unregistered nick
[00:32] <hiexpo> segaloco,  remove plymouth
[00:32] <segaloco> easier said than done
[00:32] <MichealH> Ahhh
[00:32] <segaloco> it says EVERYTHING depends on it X_X
[00:32] <segaloco> or close to it
[00:32] <segaloco> a lot of important stuff
[00:32] <segaloco> and i tried manually removing it, mountall really does depend on it
[00:32] <rww> segaloco: remove whichever plymouth-theme-* packages you have installed
[00:32] <segaloco> it whines about libply* not being there
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> You can disable plymouth..
[00:33] <hiexpo> how did you install it synaptic yes ?
[00:33] <segaloco> yeah
[00:33] <segaloco> and now i tried chroot synaptic to remove it, but it says too much depends on it
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> You dont 'remove' plymouth. You just disable it. :)
[00:33] <hiexpo> go back into synaptic and remove it
[00:33] <segaloco> rww: i just have plymouth, plymouth-x11, and libplymouth
[00:33] <segaloco> hiexpo: ... you cant
[00:33] <segaloco> it says like half the system depends on it
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> You can use teh 'text' option to have it not load. and use startx, or run gdm from rc.local as a dirty way also.
[00:34] <DirtBAG256> slow drops or waht
[00:34] <segaloco> where at, i am chrooted to my ubuntu install, just tell me what to do :P
[00:34] <segaloco> although its not plymouth itself
[00:34] <segaloco> its libplymouth causing me grief
[00:34] <segaloco> mountall didnt used to depend on it afaik, but i guess it updated and it does now :/
[00:35] <segaloco> its mountall crashing with status 127 not finding ply_boot_<something>
[00:35] <segaloco> i forget what the something was..
[00:35] <segaloco> and ive seen a similar problem before, libply.so.2.0.0 not being symlinked to libply.so.2 or something
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> segaloco:  see --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/481194/
[00:35] <segaloco> but it is on my system
[00:35] <djshotglass> anyone know of a command line download manager (https) that uses multiple connections to get the file?
[00:36] <segaloco> Dr_Willis: i cant even load my ubuntu
[00:36] <segaloco> im running an xubuntu live cd
[00:36] <Connor1> Hello everyone, I'm having a problem on my laptop. I installed Ubuntu 10 a few weeks ago. I get an internet connection, but I can't install anything from apt-get or browse the internet, as packages aren't found and websites don't load. Websites won't ping either. Can someone help me?
[00:36] <segaloco> i mean, i chrooted to it.. but i tired that already
[00:36] <segaloco> ill try again i guess :V
[00:36] <MichealH> Good
[00:36] <^cheeky> can mu partition of my disk look like this : http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6272/photo4fp.jpg  i have chosen sda5 /sd6/sda7  all logical drives .. with windows partiion installed as well ..
[00:36] <hiexpo> djshotglass,  there are many go into ubuntu software center and type download manager and search it
[00:37] <i2c> I meant beta install
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> segaloco:  theres the 'text' option i mentiooned you can use at GRUB  that will disable plymouth and gdm totally.
[00:37] <hiexpo> ruuh rooh
[00:37] <MichealH> Segaloco: What is your issue (only just came back lol
[00:37] <segaloco> then i can manually start gdm?
[00:37] <segaloco> ehh, plymouth is breaking booting of my ubuntu altogether
[00:38] <ZykoticK9> !nox | segaloco
[00:38] <segaloco> and i wouldnt TOTALLY mind reinstalling, but my wifi was a pain to set up the first time, and i honestly dont remember how i pulled it off
[00:38] <MichealH> Segaloco, How?
[00:38] <segaloco> i dunno, mountall is looking for something in libply, and its not finding it
[00:38] <cannonfodder>  hey you guys i just installed php bb but now i dont see anything when i navigate on web browser
[00:38] <cannonfodder> join #web
[00:38] <segaloco> (at least thats what it does when i boot a non 2.6.32 kernel)
[00:39] <segaloco> (and then im running wifi right now thanks to similar kernels and some chroot magic)
[00:39] <csis> cannonfodder, did you started apache ?
[00:39] <MichealH> This is a live cd, right?
[00:39] <segaloco> yeah
[00:39] <cannonfodder> csis u mean restart apache?
[00:39] <csis> Or do that
[00:39] <Delvien> Booted LiveCD 10.04, cmd "sudo grub" and tried "sudo /sbin/grub" and both give me the response: command not found.... Am I missing some blunder that took out grub from liveCD?
[00:39] <cannonfodder> i was ust configuring phpbb thru firefox so that makes no sense
[00:40] <MichealH> Have you entered the menu of the livecd and checked for defects?
[00:40] <segaloco> in what?
[00:40] <hiexpo> oh this is on a live cd segaloco
[00:40] <csis> Oh, phpbb
[00:40] <csis> :)
[00:40] <^cheeky> mu/ i
[00:40] <segaloco> well righ tNOW im on a livecd chrooted to my ubuntu install that wont boot
[00:40] <hiexpo> oh ok
[00:40] <segaloco> kinda running a hybrid right now X_X using a few drivers from my broken install
[00:40] <kreeper> edbian: what was that link for the lighttpd webserver documentation?
[00:40] <segaloco> chrooted and modprobed rt3070sta
[00:40] <djshotglass> hiexpo i am looking for something command line
[00:40] <segaloco> thank goodness its the exact same kernel
[00:40] <Leif> I need help with gparted on the 10.04 livecd, in particular, my extended partition is too big, and gparted will only resize logical partitions, can anyone help me to get gparted to shirng the extended partition so I can increse the size of one of my primary partitions?  Thanks
[00:41] <Ward|> how do i undo this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:psyke83/ppa
[00:41] <MichealH> Segaloco: when you see the ubuntu logo press a key then enter your language the "check disk for defects"
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> segaloco:  not booting is different from 'plymouth hanging'     if its plymouth causing issues you can disable it from starting via that 'text' option to the grub kernel line.
[00:41] <segaloco> yeah im working on it :P
[00:41] <hiexpo> djshotglass,  there is stuff there i think if notgo into softpedia
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> Ward|:  it should have added/made a file in /etc/apt/sources.d/ remove that file.
[00:41] <Delvien> Ward|: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge ppa:psyke83/ppa
[00:41] <edbian> kreeper, ?  Google probably knows.
[00:41] <csis> Ward|, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:42] <Ward|> csis, its not in there i tried that allready :p
[00:42] <Ward|> Dr_Willis, i'll check there thanx
[00:42] <ZykoticK9> Ward|, or System / Admin / Software Sources - and uncheck it from 3rd party tab
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> ppa-purge is not in the defauilt repos..  and its NOT in sources.list.. it should be in sources.d/SOMEFILENAME
[00:42] <Leif> Oh never mind, I should be shot, I was clicking in the wrong area, sorry for wasting your time. :)
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> ppa-purge - Is to be in the next release i hear.
[00:42] <MichealH> Segaloco, alternatively you can disable --quiet-splash
[00:43] <Delvien> Dr_Willis: My mistake, I must have the PPA for it, ironic
[00:43] <segaloco> yeah, did some stuff, gonna try it now i guess
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Delvien:  yep. :) ubuntu-tweak also includes it  these days
[00:43] <segaloco> soo brb/bbl i guess :P
[00:43] <Ward|> ppa-purge is much more conveniant though
[00:43] <KE1HA> sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory>
[00:43] <segaloco> ill update you whenever xD
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> nye all - bll
[00:43] <Ward|> i love there's commands for it
[00:43] <Ward|> as opposed to editing the configs jsut to add one line
[00:43] <MichealH> It's the moment if truth ;D
[00:44] <Connor1> Hello everyone, I'm having a problem on my laptop. I installed Ubuntu 10 a few weeks ago. I get an internet connection, but I can't install anything from apt-get or browse the internet, as packages aren't found and websites don't load. Websites won't ping either. Can someone help me?
[00:44] <Connor1> This is my output of iptables -L, http://fpaste.org/S8mH/
[00:45] <MichealH> Connor1, are you getting a connection on annotjer PC?
[00:45] <Wipster> evning all, got an issue with ftp on linux if I reboot my computer I can get one file transfer but if I try again I only get one hash mark in debug mode. ifconfig down up doesn't fix it and a reboot seems to be the only way to get another transfer. Been happening for quite a few ubuntu versions now and its finally got to me, (have to use windows for the ftp transfers)
[00:45] <allquixotic> Hi, how do I save my iptables rules so they will be loaded on next boot, without using UFW? I'm on 10.04.1 Server
[00:45] <Connor1> MichealH yes, my laptop.
[00:45] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: so you cant even ping?
[00:45] <Connor1> DirtBAG256 correct
[00:46] <MichealH> Connor1: Has your PC got a static ip address?
[00:46] <csis> allquixotic, make a script and put it in /etc/init.d/
[00:46] <Connor1> MichealH I'm not quite sure, but I was also having this problem a few weeks ago, and the windows computers and the mac in the house all work fine on the wireless network
[00:46] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: whats the output of    ifconfig /a
[00:47] <Connor1> Device not found?
[00:47] <Connor1> Wtf is /a?
[00:47] <Connor1> You mean -a?
[00:47] <MichealH> He will of
[00:47] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: whats the output of    ifconfig    sure
[00:47] <MichealH> Try the -a
[00:47] <ZykoticK9> allquixotic, i have no idea - but csis's suggestion is the old, non-Upstart method (just based off path ;)
[00:47] <^cheeky> in a dual boot setup with NTFS partition can all my partition for ubuntu 10.4 be logical ?
[00:48] <cystic> how come my screenlets always don't come back how I set them afterI restart
[00:48] <csis> Wipster, do you wait after uploading one file ?
[00:48] <csis> ZykoticK9, yeah it is, after all :)
[00:49] <Connor1> DirtBAG256 MichealH
[00:49] <ZykoticK9> csis, :)  wasn't trying to be rude or anything, just wanted to add to the answer.
[00:49] <Connor1> http://fpaste.org/ydmI/
[00:49] <Connor1> There is both
[00:49] <csis> ZykoticK9, it's ok
[00:49] <Wipster> csis, hey again I think we talked last time I asked, the device is imbedded and rebooted so there is timer
[00:50] <Wipster> *is no
[00:50] <cystic> anybody?
[00:50] <csis> Wipster, that's really strange, then
[00:50] <MichealH> Connor1, It surely isn't doing anything
[00:50] <csis> Are you sure you ended the transaction ?
[00:50] <Connor1> MichealH all it's donig is connecting to the internet
[00:51] <hiexpo> cystic,  in panel\
[00:51] <csis> What ftp uploader do you use ?
[00:51] <Wipster> csis, define end the transaction once I am done I use exit
[00:51] <MichealH> Connor1, Trying :P
[00:51] <Nyha> Hi, I was wondering if I change the gnome-terminal to xterm in some apps it won't read .Xdefaults... can I force this some how?
[00:51] <Wipster> csis, just standard commandline ftp
[00:51] <Connor1> MichealH any ideas on what to do?
[00:52] <Wipster> csis, this happens across distros and across hardware, but works fine on xp
[00:52] <hiexpo> cystic,  iapplets in the panel ?
[00:52] <MichealH> Connor1: Did you give your computer a IP address manually?
[00:52] <hiexpo> ^applets
[00:52] <csis> could you upload something right now and then upload netstat > file.txt somewhere or on pastebin
[00:52] <Connor1> MichealH the laptop?
[00:52] <Connor1> No
[00:52] <Connor1> I selected my wireless network from the network list.
[00:53] <Wipster> I will need to reboot to get a successfull transaction do you want an failed one too?
[00:53] <MichealH> The computer your having issues on, Connor1
[00:53] <csis> Wipster, sure
[00:53] <cystic> the widgets from the screenlets app.. the weather widget always goes back to default settings  so i have to redo my zipcode and make it farenheit
[00:53] <Wipster> ok back in a bit then
[00:53] <Connor1> MichealH no I didn't
[00:53] <Connor1> Also MichealH
[00:53] <Connor1> aperson> does going to 209.85.225.99 work?
[00:53] <MichealH> Connor1, Which PC is having the problems?
[00:53] <Connor1> <*
[00:54] <Connor1> This didn't work
[00:54] <FloodBot3> Connor1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:54] <Connor1> MichealH my laptop is.
[00:54] <cystic> also some do not show up even though they show up in the auto start.. i just rebooted and it popped up like 10 weather widgets. It's all weird and I figure its me but I don't know why
[00:54] <TiK> cystic: drop screenlets there is a weather applet in docky and panel!!
[00:54] <TiK> hehe
[00:55] <cystic> k
[00:55] <hiexpo> cystic,  when talking to someone please type a couple letters etc and hit tab so we get notified of message some of us are on many channels
[00:55] <Connor1> MichealH would the output of sudo lshw -C network help?
[00:55] <MichealH> Connor1, Tried restarting your router/hotspur?
[00:55] <Connor1> MichealH yes
[00:55] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | Delvien
[00:55] <cystic> hiexpo, ok thanks
[00:55] <MichealH> Connor1, Give it a shot!
[00:56] <Connor1> The output or the router?
[00:56] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: so  your talking to another pc via wifi?
[00:56] <segaloco> no good :/
[00:56] <Connor1> DirtBAG256 my desktop is a wired connection
[00:56] <Connor1> cable line-modem-router-computer
[00:56] <Connor1> the - being a new cable
[00:56] <segaloco> its saying ply_boot_client_flush or something isnt being found by mountall
[00:56] <MichealH> Connor1, No the commands' output please
[00:56] <segaloco> and that its exiting with status 127
[00:57]  * aperson waves at Connor1 
[00:57]  * Connor1 waves at aperson
[00:57] <MichealH> Segaloco, there is issues with your partition then
[00:57] <hiexpo> cystic,  better
[00:57] <Connor1> http://fpaste.org/fOsP/
[00:57] <segaloco> hmm
[00:57] <MichealH> It won't mount so it's having issues
[00:58] <segaloco> you know, (now i feel stupid for not mentioning this) i also tried to install grub-pc... that didnt go over so well
[00:58] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: so hho are you wifining to/
[00:58] <segaloco> -_-'
[00:58] <segaloco> why didnt i say that...
[00:58] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: so who are you wifining to?
[00:58] <Connor1> DirtBAG256 my router, if you meant who are you wifing to
[00:58] <Connor1> My router.
[00:58] <Connor1> Laptop to my router
[00:58] <hiexpo> cystic,  see your learning as you go free education
[00:59] <segaloco> but anyway, i tried again just now to install grub-pc though my chroot and its not working...
[00:59] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: is the router the gateway?
[00:59] <Connor1> DirtBAG256 Linksys
[00:59] <Connor1> Linksys wrt310n, stock firmware.
[00:59] <hiexpo> thats the prob is n
[01:00] <MichealH> Connor1: is there a pc on the network you have with the same ip address...
[01:00] <Connor1> MichealH I don't believe so, no.
[01:00] <Connor1>  
[01:00] <MichealH> They may be conflicting
[01:00] <hiexpo> bet if you disable password it will conect
[01:00] <DirtBAG256> MichealH: that not possible
[01:01] <MichealH> Dirtbag256: It certainly is!
[01:01] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: so what happens if you ping google.com?
[01:01] <Visine> what is the key for desktop cube once you enable it in compiz?
[01:01] <csis> Connor1, you can't ping those websites ?
[01:01] <MichealH> It's happened plenty of tomes before ;)
[01:01] <segaloco> visine: did you enable rotate cube?
[01:01] <Visine> yea
[01:01] <segaloco> hmm, i dunno about the key, i just drag it with the middle mouse wheel
[01:01] <DirtBAG256> MichealH: same ip address  prove it then :P
[01:01] <segaloco> click it in on the desktop and drag
[01:02] <hiexpo> ^ you mean what is the keyboard shortcuts for copiz cube
[01:02] <Connor1> DirtBAG256 no output
[01:02] <Connor1> csis nope
[01:02] <MichealH> Dirtbag256 pit 2 ubuntu pcs to the same ip address then
[01:02] <Visine> hmm
[01:02] <Visine> I don't see it on my desktop
[01:02] <Visine> il keep looking
[01:02] <segaloco> well, just center click and drag to rotate the cube via mouse, i forget the key combo though...
[01:02] <MichealH> It will make you connection loose if they both clash
[01:03] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: there must be something even if it fails
[01:03] <Visine> I have both of them enabled, nothing happens with middle mouse button
[01:03] <Connor1> DirtBAG256 just a blank line
[01:04] <MichealH> Connor1: DNS Server configuration wrong by any chance?
[01:04] <hiexpo> he  is not listening
[01:04] <segaloco> Visine: did you use ccsm or some other program
[01:04] <MichealH> heixpo: who?
[01:04] <kreeper> i tried installing php5-cgi and at the end i got errors,   "dpkg-deb (subprocess): error in buffer_read(stream): failed to write to pipe in copy: Input/output error dpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2 dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/php5-cgi_5.3.2-1ubuntu4.2_i386.deb (--unpack):  short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/bin/php5-cgi') No apport report written because the error mes
[01:04] <Visine> ccsm
[01:04] <kreeper> but it didnt help
[01:05] <Connor1> MichealH I'm thinking it is that
[01:05] <kreeper> how do i fix this
[01:05] <segaloco> well, no clue then :/
[01:05] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: so you ping google.com and get a blank line on the console?
[01:05] <Connor1> DirtBAG256 yes
[01:05] <segaloco> its usually default that middle mouse button and drag rotates the cube
[01:05] <Connor1> DirtBAG256 I just got "unknown host"
[01:05] <Visine> oh i got it!
[01:05] <Visine> thanks
[01:05] <MichealH> Connor1: What did you set them to?
[01:05] <Connor1> DirtBAG256
[01:05] <Connor1> http://fpaste.org/emDc/
[01:05] <Wipster> csis, ok here we go a just after a working transfer: http://pastebin.com/9xV386Up and a Failed transfer: http://pastebin.com/ZqysmUvE
[01:05] <Connor1> MichealH I'm using default DNS settings.
[01:06] <Wipster> csis, the Failed one just hangs do I ctrl c out of it
[01:06] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: something is very wrong then can u pastebin it please
[01:06] <Wipster> csis, s/do/so
[01:06] <csis> It's ok
[01:07] <segaloco> well im gonna install xubuntu for now so i'll have SOMETHING and just keep doing what ive been doing for the wifi :/
[01:07] <MichealH> Connor1: usually a router or server can act as a dns server if it is directly connected to a line
[01:07] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: passtebin your ping attempts
[01:07] <Connor1> DirtBAG256 ping: unknown host google.com
[01:07] <Connor1> Nothing for me to pastebin besides that...
[01:07] <segaloco> not a permanent fix, but good for longterm, especially since school is coming up, i need a usable system
[01:07] <Connor1> MichealH I see
[01:07] <MichealH> Just get their ip address and set that as your laptop dns
[01:07] <Connor1> MichealH I need this laptop for school, a wired connection won't cut it
[01:08] <MichealH> Connor1: You gonna try?
[01:08] <Connor1> MichealH will it let me use my laptop on wireless at school or fix the problem?
[01:08] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: that means theres no externall access at all!
[01:08] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: can you ping the router?
[01:08] <MichealH> Connor1:  Dies your Router have a IP address
[01:09] <Connor1> MichealH hold o
[01:09] <MichealH> If he can't ping the router the it's probably dns
[01:09] <Connor1> On*
[01:09] <Connor1> MichealH ipconfig on windows, what should I look for?
[01:10] <MichealH> The ip address if say
[01:10] <DirtBAG256> MichealH: no probaly dhcp
[01:10] <Connor1> MichealH none look like my router IP
[01:10] <hiexpo> it is a n router
[01:10] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: pastebin ipconfig
[01:10] <MichealH> Connor1: goto your browser and in the bar try 192.168.0.1
[01:11] <McLinux> how can he pastebin it if he's not online?
[01:11] <aperson> DirtBAG256, http://fpaste.org/ydmI/
[01:11] <Connor1> MichealH 1.1
[01:11] <Connor1> MichealH 192.168.1.1
[01:11] <aperson> DirtBAG256, nvm, that's ifconfig
[01:11] <MichealH> Connor1: if it asks for user and pass then it's your routers ip address
[01:11] <hiexpo> MichealH,  good idea linksys
[01:11] <uRock> Just installed 10.04 over an 9.10 install, but did not format the /home. Now I have no top panels on windows and am having several other theme issues, what can I try to fix this?
[01:12] <MichealH> heixpo: ??
[01:12] <Connor1> MichealH I know
[01:12] <Connor1> MichealH I'm not new to logging into my router lol
[01:12] <MichealH> Heh
[01:12] <jellow> uRock: try removing the .gnome config files in /home/$USER/
[01:13] <uRock> jellow, will it create a new one/
[01:13] <uRock> ?
[01:13] <MichealH> Connor1: isn't it funny how I'm giving Linux support on a Apple Product?
[01:13] <Connor1> MichealH sure
[01:13] <hiexpo> MichealH,  - saying good idea see if he logs into linkssys ip 192.168.0.1
[01:13] <aperson> uRock, hold on a sec
[01:13] <jellow> uRock: don't remove them just rename them , yes it should create new ones
[01:13] <Connor1> Considering Mac OS X is unix based...
[01:13] <aperson> jellow, no
[01:13] <aperson> uRock, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408925
[01:13] <MichealH> Connor1: lol
[01:13] <aperson> that will restore your panels, uRock
[01:14] <terov> hey folks, having wireless trouble (massive packet loss on all networks; network cuts out intermittently; drastically long pings/latency at random intervals). happens on all networks, but wasn't happening until i installed my new router. any ideas?
[01:14] <Connor1> So any other ideas MichealH ?
[01:14] <terov> wired network works without a hitch.
[01:14] <MichealH> Can you ping your router
[01:14] <powertool08> I have an apt-get process that was started in a terminal, I left for awhile, when I came back, X had restarted and was at the login. The apt process is still running according to ps, is there anyway to bring this process up in a new terminal so I can see what its stuck on?
[01:14] <aperson> uRock, the conftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel
[01:14] <terov> MichaelH: my router?
[01:14] <MichealH> Just ping 192.168.1.1
[01:15] <hiexpo> terov,  > new router
[01:15] <MichealH> Tero
[01:15] <Connor1> MichealH that works
[01:15] <terov> MichaelH: from wireless, it's the same thing: it works intermittently.
[01:15] <Connor1> It pinged once
[01:15] <Connor1> Then I get Host Unreachable
[01:15] <terov> hiexpo: right, the new router seemed to set it off, but now my laptop has trouble with all wireless networks.
[01:16] <MichealH> Connor1: that's... Weird
[01:16] <terov> hiexpo: regardless of restarts, using google DNS, etc. i thought it might be a dns problem, but it also does it with straight IP addresses now.
[01:16] <Connor1> aperson any ideas?
[01:16] <terov> hiexpo: (it being, huge latency after operating for anywhere between 1-10 minutes, and eventually all hosts become unreachable)
[01:17] <MichealH> Connor1: There's still some hope
[01:17] <aperson> Connor1, currently, no
[01:17] <Connor1> Dang
[01:17] <Connor1> This sucks
[01:17] <terov> hiexpo: have tried flushing my routing tables, etc.
[01:17] <csis> terov, you're the only one on the network ?
[01:17] <MichealH> Can you use googles main DNS Server Connor1
[01:17] <terov> csis: in this case, yes. at the coffee shop wifi, was one of several.
[01:17] <uRock> aperson, how do I bring the panels back? gnome-panels has disappeared
[01:17] <hiexpo> terov,  thats weird
[01:17] <uRock> completely
[01:17] <Connor1> MichealH what IP?
[01:17] <csis> terov, double check that anyway
[01:17] <terov> csis: and the only one having trouble.
[01:18] <csis> Oh
[01:18] <aperson> uRock, log out
[01:18] <MichealH> Connor1: I'm sure it's 8.8.8.4
[01:18] <terov> hiexpo: extremely. i'm honestly beginning to wonder if the wireless hardware sustained some kind of physical bump.
[01:18] <uRock> aperson, there is no panel to click on to log out, how do I do it via terminal?
[01:18] <Connor1> MichealH one ping then destination host unreachable
[01:18] <Connor1> uRock logout
[01:18] <aperson> MichealH, google's is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[01:18] <Connor1> Or exit
[01:18] <Connor1> I don't remember
[01:19] <hiexpo> terov,  sounds like it what card?
[01:19] <aperson> uRock, alt+f2 work?
[01:19] <MichealH> It sound like your pc is limiting your connection
[01:19] <terov> hiexpo: i forget--let me check.
[01:19] <Connor1> Same thing for both of those aperson
[01:19] <hiexpo> terov,  ok
[01:19] <dogmatic69> how can i view this folder? im getting bash: cd: mysql/: Permission denied
[01:19] <uRock> aperson, nope
[01:20] <MichealH> Connor1: can you ping annotjer pc
[01:20] <aperson> uRock, otherwise, hit ctrl+alt+f4 and login, then do a sudo service gdm restart
[01:20] <csis> dogmatic69, log in as root then set permissions
[01:20] <uRock> ctrl+alt+f2 does
[01:20] <Connor1> MichealH dunno
[01:20] <aperson> uRock, yeah, tty's should almost always work :)
[01:20] <dogmatic69> csis: i thought i was
[01:20] <Connor1> Should I try restarting my router agian?
[01:20] <Connor1> Again*
[01:20] <MichealH> Dogmatic69: use Audi
[01:20] <MichealH> *sudo
[01:21] <dogmatic69> hmmm... im pretty new so idk what audi is
[01:21] <MichealH> I hate iPods
[01:21] <csis> :D
[01:21] <dogmatic69> you cant do sudo ls
[01:21] <dogmatic69> or cd
[01:21] <dogmatic69> ive tried that
[01:21] <MichealH> Dogmatic69: I failed
[01:21] <terov> hiexpo, csis: incidentally, DNS lookups are almost always dreadfully slow--wired OR wireless. been using google's DNS without improvement.
[01:22] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: so you can ping your router sucessfully?
[01:22] <uRock> aperson, it is restarting, startx wouldn't work
[01:22] <MichealH> Connor1: Yes
[01:22] <aperson> uRock, why oh why did you startx?
[01:22] <dogmatic69> csis: so how do i 'login as root'
[01:22] <DirtBAG256> dogmatic69: su
[01:22] <uRock> how else would I get back to the GUI?
[01:22] <aperson> uRock, x should already be running on tty7
[01:22] <MichealH> Dirtbag256: One ping... That's it
[01:22] <uRock> oh
[01:22] <aperson> uRock, so ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to where you were
[01:23] <terov> hiexpo: device is intel  PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN
[01:23] <dogmatic69> DirtBAG256: how would i know what the admin pw is?
[01:23] <dogmatic69> its not my normal pw
[01:23] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: is this so?one ping to your router?
[01:23] <csis> dogmatic69, Oh you sneaky bastard :)
[01:23] <hiexpo> terov,  no probs before?
[01:23] <sacarlson> dogmatic69: try  sudo su  from a terminal window that should get you a # prompt telling you that your root
[01:24] <kreeper> how would i uninstall a package that i installed earlier?
[01:24] <uRock> theme is back to stock now, but oddly there are still no top window panels on opened windows
[01:24] <aperson> sacarlson, sudo -i is the proper way IRRC
[01:24] <dogmatic69> csis: sneaky?
[01:24] <MichealH> Dirtbag256 then he gets destim
[01:24] <uRock> theme is back to stock now, but oddly there are still no top window panels on opened windows, aperson
[01:24] <MichealH> Oops
[01:24] <rsh> I installed a package with apt-get and it gave me an ncurses config. I now want to change some of those options, but when I apt-get remove and then install the package again, it no longer brings up the ncurses menu. How do I get it back?
[01:24] <DirtBAG256> dogmatic69: you woundnt :P
[01:24] <Connor1> MichealH now what?
[01:25] <MichealH> Can you connect?
[01:25] <uRock> aperson, I got them working now, thanx for the help
[01:25] <terov> hiexpo: before the new router? nope.
[01:25] <dogmatic69> sudo su ftw
[01:25] <aperson> uRock, yep
[01:25] <terov> hiexpo: worked without a hitch on other wireless networks as well.
[01:25] <dogmatic69> thanks
[01:25] <sacarlson> aperson: I compared sudo su and sudo -i and found little difference in env other than something to do with  cokies.  can you tell me what the difference is?
[01:25] <Connor1> MichealH my mint install could work fine
[01:25] <Connor1> I had used ndiswrapper to get wireless on it
[01:25] <terov> hiexpo: new router is the linksys e1000, which i'm going to replace. it is an awful machine.
[01:25] <hiexpo> kerov sounds like roter issue
[01:25] <Connor1> Not connecting on my lapto
[01:26] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: is this so?one ping to your router?
[01:26] <dogmatic69> DirtBAG256: would not what?
[01:26] <MichealH> Connor1: Try that
[01:26] <terov> hiexpo: indeed, but why would other wireless networks not work?
[01:26] <Connor1> Network is unrechable.
[01:26] <Connor1> Unreachable*
[01:26] <DirtBAG256> dogmatic69: guess the rt pw
[01:26] <aperson> sacarlson, lemme find my bookmark I have on the subject, but yeah, it mostly has to do with environment variables
[01:26] <rww> !root
[01:26] <hiexpo> terov,  not sure
[01:26] <dogmatic69> DirtBAG256: right... so there is a root pw on ubuntu that nobody knows?
[01:26] <rww> dogmatic69: no
[01:27] <DirtBAG256> dogmatic69: NO
[01:27] <Connor1> MichealH any ideas?
[01:27] <Jordan_U> sacarlson: sudo -i"
[01:27] <terov> hiexpo: will tinker around with it further and see if i can't get it ironed out.
[01:27] <terov> hiexpo: appreciate the thoughts.
[01:27] <MichealH> Connor1: Tried
[01:27] <kreeper> can anyone help me?
[01:27] <FBP> Hi. I need to install the JRE and the JDK. There are some guides I found online but I don't know enough about ubuntu to understand them yet.
[01:27] <Jordan_U> sacarlson: ... "sudo -i" is basically equivelent to "su -"
[01:27] <dogmatic69> DirtBAG256: so were you being sarcastic and it is something like 'root'
[01:27] <hiexpo> terov,  no prob good luck buddy
[01:27] <Connor1> MichealH it connected
[01:27] <hiexpo> there is no pw
[01:27] <MichealH> Connor1: try the thing you said minutes ago
[01:28] <Connor1> MichealH it pinged once
[01:28] <Connor1> No host is unreachable bullshit
[01:28] <DirtBAG256> dogmatic69: NO   its your user pw
[01:28] <rww> Connor1: watch your language, please
[01:28] <Connor1> Sorry
[01:28] <Connor1> A website isn't loading
[01:28] <Connor1> But it actually put start.ubuntu.com in the address bar instead of a google search link
[01:28] <MichealH> Connor1: so how have you had your drivers setup?
[01:28] <dogmatic69> DirtBAG256: i just said my user pw does not work...
[01:29] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: if you cant ping your router try resetting the router see if that helps
[01:29] <dogmatic69> sudo su was fine
[01:29] <Connor1> DirtBAG256 I already did
[01:29] <Connor1> And the router just pinged, I said that
[01:29] <dogmatic69> su
[01:29] <hiexpo> Connor1,  it always does that
[01:29] <MichealH> Dirtbag256: he did that
[01:29] <Connor1> MichealH I'm using ubuntu 10 because my wireless card is supported out of the box and I couldn't get ndiswrapper crap working on Crunchbang and apt-get on mint was hosed beyond repair
[01:29] <DirtBAG256> dogmatic69:  su pw is user pw!
[01:29] <dogmatic69> then entering my user pw is #fail
[01:29] <rww> DirtBAG256: no, sudo password is user password.
[01:30] <rww> su asks for the password of the user you're switching to, hence "su" (which defaults to "su root") not working on default Ubuntu setups.
[01:30] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: so if they are the same  why are people always saying sudo su is wrong and sudo -i is correct?
[01:30] <MichealH> Connor1: Try the Ubuntu one then!
[01:30] <rww> unless you're already root, hence "sudo su" working.
[01:30] <aperson> sacarlson, they're not the same
[01:30] <DirtBAG256> rww:  what?
[01:30] <Connor1> MichealH I'm on Ubuntu
[01:31] <DirtBAG256> sudo as a user same pw needed!
[01:31] <Connor1> Going to grab an ethernet cable I suppose
[01:31] <FBP> Hi I need to install the JRE, the JDK, and flash. I assume there are apt-get something or anothers, but I don't really know how that works.
[01:31] <rww> DirtBAG256: you said su, not sudo.
[01:31] <Gnea> 'sudo -i' is safer than 'sudo su'
[01:31] <uRock> Does the user ID need to be 1000 to be an admin?
[01:31] <DirtBAG256> rww:  ohh semantics!
[01:31] <rww> Gnea: why?
[01:31] <sailerboy> hey, does anyone use a TI-Nspire with ubuntu?
[01:31] <rww> DirtBAG256: they're rather different commands.
[01:31] <IdleOne> !java > FBP
[01:31] <rww> uRock: no, it needs to be in the admin group
[01:31] <bazhang> DirtBAG256, they're not the same
[01:31] <IdleOne> !flash > FBP
[01:31] <uRock> k, thanx
[01:31] <DirtBAG256> rww:  sure but no at user level
[01:32] <hiexpo> hi Gnea  long time
[01:32] <aperson> I think this sudo/su debate is getting to be !OT
[01:32] <MichealH> Connor1: can you download ndiswrapper
[01:32] <DirtBAG256> rww:  sure but not at user level
[01:32] <Gnea> rww: someone explained it in here long ago... that's a good question. my guess is that it doesn't use the 'su' binary, and -i keeps the loop within sudo.
[01:32] <Gnea> hiexpo: hiya
[01:32] <MichealH> From the mirrors
[01:32] <sailerboy> hey, does anyone use a TI-Nspire with ubuntu?
[01:32] <sporkboy> okay. so here's what I have: amd64 linux laptop, macbook that's not booting & has a busted cd drive, 1gig flash drive. anybody know if I can get ubuntu on the macbook this way?
[01:32] <Connor1> It's working via ethernet, detected automatically.
[01:32] <Connor1> MichealH
[01:33] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: try changing the cable   me thinks
[01:33] <MichealH> Connor1: can you connect via Ethernet?
[01:33] <xmad> sporkboy, can you boot with usb on your laptop
[01:33] <Connor1> DirtBAG256 I just said it works via a wired connection
[01:33] <Connor1> MichealH wired connection works
[01:33] <MichealH> Connor1, it's a wireless driver error
[01:34] <sporkboy> xmad: on mine, yes. can't get the mac to do it, though. (I /can/ get to the macs hdd via usb or firewire, if that helps)
[01:34] <Connor1> So what shall I do?
[01:34] <Connor1> I have internet on the laptop, I can do anything I need now
[01:34] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: you said you couldnt ping google
[01:34] <MichealH> Try the ndiswrapper
[01:34] <Connor1> DirtBAG256 I have a wired connection now...
[01:34] <MichealH> Connor1:^^
[01:34] <Connor1> MichealH I hate ndiswrapper :
[01:34] <Connor1> :L/
[01:34] <Connor1> :/
[01:35] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: ah ok wired s better
[01:35] <csis> well...obviously, we have a rapist in #ubuntu
[01:35]  * sporkboy wonders if he could make the oem install load on the firewire connection to the macs hdd.
[01:35] <Jordan_U> Connor1: Can you run "iwevent" and leave it running while you connect to wireless once and wait a few minutes (to see if the connection is being lost), then pastebin the output from iwevent?
[01:35] <rww> csis: That's inappropriate for this channel.
[01:36] <csis> rww, I apologize
[01:36] <DirtBAG256> csis: loser
[01:36] <bazhang> DirtBAG256, stop that
[01:36] <bp0> why don't volume buttons work in a fullscreen game in linux?
[01:36] <Connor1> Jordan_U trying
[01:36] <Gnea> !ubuntu | csis
[01:36] <MichealH> Dirtbag256: Be nice.
[01:37] <sporkboy> I'm gonna try this bs and see if it works.
[01:37] <DirtBAG256> well calling someone a rapist   what gives
[01:37] <MichealH> Can we please change the topic
[01:37] <rww> DirtBAG256: drop it, please
[01:37] <Connor1> Jordan_U wlan0 set mode:managed set frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) over and over
[01:38] <DirtBAG256> well just kick him then
[01:38] <bazhang> !ot | DirtBAG256
[01:39] <hiexpo> DirtBAG256,  relax all you will do is get a kick yourself
[01:39] <MichealH> !guidelines > Dirtbag256
[01:40] <csis> !guidelines > csis
[01:40] <Connor1> MichealH should I just suck it up and try ndiswrapper?
[01:41] <hiexpo> Connor1,  what is the wifi card again sorry <
[01:41] <MichealH> Connor1: Yes!
[01:41] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: stick with the wired connection
[01:41] <Connor1> DirtBAG256, I need wireless for school
[01:42] <Connor1> MichealH what's the command to show wireless devices?
[01:42] <Connor1> hiexpo I'm 99% sure it's a realtek 8187
[01:42] <rww> Connor1: lspci or lsusb
[01:42] <bazhang> Connor1, lspci to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <rww> depending on how the device is connected
[01:42] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: ifconfig wano
[01:42] <MichealH> Connor1: Try the ifconfig -a That gave us the name
[01:42] <bazhang> DirtBAG256, that's not correct
[01:42] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: ifconfig wan0 sorry
[01:43] <rww> neither is that
[01:43] <MichealH> Connor1: It is that card
[01:43] <MichealH> A realtek
[01:43] <DirtBAG256> Connor1: ifconfig wlan0 !!!
[01:44] <bazhang> DirtBAG256, that's not right. please stop.
[01:44] <MichealH> Dirtbag256: Wrong
[01:44] <Connor1> hiexpo realtek 8187
[01:44] <rww> I note that rtl8187 and rtl8187b (for example) are rather different. giving the ls{pci,usb} output is probably a good idea
[01:45] <MichealH> Connor1: Pastebin it
[01:45] <hiexpo> ok heres the deal i will get you help but no bad remarks to my friend   about his nick   > deal
[01:45] <randomusr_> hello
[01:45] <DirtBAG256> so how is ifconfig wlan0 wrong?
[01:46] <randomusr_> lol
[01:46] <hiexpo> Connor1, ^
[01:46] <MichealH> !hi | randomiser_
[01:46] <MichealH> Poops
[01:46] <randomusr_> DirtBAG256, what are you trying to do?
[01:47] <MichealH> *oopp
[01:47] <Connor1> DirtBAG256 it doesn't show my wireless device
[01:47] <Connor1> Just "ethernet"
[01:47] <MichealH> That went wrong
[01:51] <MichealH> Connor1: were running out of things to suggest
[01:51] <MichealH> Have you tried the wrapper?
[01:52] <hiexpo> Connor1,  - watch for pure_hate and ask him nicely if he can help you solve your pron
[01:52] <Dany___> hello
[01:52] <Dany___> ???
[01:52] <hiexpo> !hi | Dany___
[01:52] <MichealH> !hi | Dany__
[01:52] <Dany___> michael
[01:53] <Dany___> can u help me?
[01:53] <hiexpo> lol
[01:53] <sacarlson> DirtBAG256: because maybe ifconfig wlan1 is correct?  the name can change if you unplug and replug the device
[01:53] <MichealH> Dany__ what's the problem?
[01:53] <Dany___> allright , maybe somebody can help me
[01:53] <Dany___> ok
[01:54] <Dany___> first of all, u have to watch a video from my cel phone, because if i tell u what's happened u won't believe me and i will be banned
[01:54] <hiexpo> sacarlson,  no i dont < it locks in
[01:54] <Dany___> like i happened in another channel
[01:54] <Quintin> What's the difference between "unmount" "safely eject drive" and "eject" ???!
[01:54] <Dany___> can i post a youtube link here?
[01:54] <IdleOne> Dany___: no
[01:55] <IdleOne> !ot | Dany___
[01:55] <sacarlson> hiexpo: did I miss something?
[01:55] <hiexpo> hi > IdleOne
[01:55] <wlan0> unmount: unmount a drive from your filesystem; safely eject drive -- unmounts & eject in one action;  eject- opens the CDROM drive
[01:55] <IdleOne> hey hiexpo
[01:55] <Dany___> uhm that's a problem
[01:55] <Dany___> and in pvt?
[01:55] <IdleOne> Dany___: what is the issue?
[01:56] <Dany___> i'm italiano so i don't know if ai can explain well...
[01:56] <IdleOne> !it | Dany___
[01:56] <IdleOne> :)
[01:56] <Dany___> ...i wanna boot ubuntu LIVE from cd but something's wrong...
[01:56] <MichealH> :D
[01:56] <hiexpo> sacarlson,  you said wifi card can change location it will not i use about ten on this distro and everytime i plug a dif in it knows it
[01:56] <MichealH> Dany__, What?
[01:57] <Dany___> after i press "Install without installation" it freeze and i can see my W7 desktop somehow
[01:57] <Dany___> never happened in years i use ubuntu
[01:57] <MichealH> Dany__, your live cd may have issues
[01:58] <hiexpo> md5sum
[01:58] <MichealH> Did you check the md5sum?
[01:58] <Dany___> no because the same cd runs normally in my mother's notebook
[01:58] <Dany___> yes
[01:58] <Dany___> it's all normal
[01:58] <sacarlson> hiexpo: well I had the problem helping someone a few days ago when he started it was wlan0 but later he pasted me his ifconfig and it had changed.  I'm  not sure how it happend.  after reboot it again become wlan0.
[01:59] <Connor1> ..........
[01:59] <Connor1> MichealH DirtBAG256
[01:59] <wildeja> Hello and good evening to all
[01:59] <Connor1> I had to compile my wireless drivers...
[01:59] <FloodBot3> Connor1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:59] <Connor1> Shut up FloodBot1
[01:59] <Connor1> Floodbot3*
[01:59] <MichealH> Dany__, when you see the purple screen press enter. Provide your language and the select "check disk for defects"
[02:00] <Connor1> MichealH I fixed it
[02:00] <MichealH> Connor1, No Bad! :P
[02:00] <Dany___> i already done that...but anyway, the same disc goes perfectly in my mother's laptop
[02:00] <MichealH> Connor1: yayyyyyyyyyy!
[02:00] <Connor1> Fuck
[02:00] <Connor1> Sorry
[02:01] <Dany___> michael , pvt
[02:01] <hiexpo> sacarlson,  it can only cange if os changes such as fresh install   > each card i have has a differant name wlan1,2,3,4,   > but it will always be mon0 if only one card is used
[02:01] <Connor1> I disconnected my hardline and now it doesn't work
[02:01] <MichealH> Connor1: happy to help anytime
[02:01] <hiexpo> ^change
[02:01] <Connor1> MichealH
[02:01] <MichealH> :/
[02:01] <Dany___> mike?
[02:01] <wildeja> I am having trouble with remote desktop. I can connect and control the target machine but the view on my computer never updates, i have to watch what i'm doing across the room on the machines monitor. Any idea how i can see it on my laptop?
[02:02] <MichealH> Dany__, what?
[02:02] <sacarlson> hiexpo: I think it might have been a problem with two drivers trying to run the same usb wifi device.  we never got the device to work correctly.
[02:02] <hiexpo> sacarlson,  yup
[02:02] <MichealH> Connor1:  What'd you do?
[02:02] <Dany___> :-(
[02:02] <MichealH> Dany__, What us pvt
[02:03] <Connor1> MichealH I removed my wireless card
[02:03] <MichealH> Connor1: anything you see suspicious on there?
[02:03] <Dany___> thank u michael, i leave u a message in pvt
[02:03] <Connor1> MichealH my wireless card is a POS
[02:03] <Dany___> i'll wait here
[02:04] <wildeja> Quiet in here tonight
[02:04] <Dany___> not really
[02:04] <Dany___> ...
[02:04] <hiexpo> Connor1,  buy a alfa wusb
[02:05] <Connor1> hiexpo maybe
[02:05] <hiexpo> best card out
[02:05] <Dany___> michael r u there?
[02:05] <MichealH> Dany__, I saw the video.
[02:05] <Dany___> ok, what u think?
[02:06] <MichealH> Dany__, were you using wubi?
[02:06] <Dany___> obviusly ubuntu is not loaded right?
[02:06] <Dany___> no
[02:06] <Dany___> just the live cd
[02:06] <sacarlson> how do I get virtualbox to boot a usb flash disk with ubuntu installed as boot?  is it even posible?
[02:06] <MichealH> Virtual Mashine?
[02:06] <Dany___> as downloaded
[02:06] <Dany___> no
[02:06] <Dany___> i just downloaded iso and burned, like usual..
[02:06] <hiexpo> awus036h
[02:06] <Dany___> like i always do...
[02:06] <Dany___> in years
[02:07] <MichealH> It could have been a RAM issue, Or a Graphical Memory problem
[02:07] <Dany___> RAM?
[02:07] <Dany___> ...???...
[02:08] <Dany___> r u saying my ram is going bye bye?
[02:08] <MichealH> Windows may store your desktop ect. To RAM and I thick it didn't get cleared probably?
[02:08] <rooks> from where GDM sources users to display at login time?
[02:08] <MichealH> It could have been a windows issue
[02:08] <Dany___> uhmm...
[02:08] <Dany___> man...
[02:09] <Dany___> i don't know...
[02:09] <MichealH> I think it was a glitch
[02:09] <sacarlson> what setting do I put my bios in a real system when I try to boot a usb flash with ubuntu on it?  the options in my bios are usb-fdd  usb-cdrom  usb-zip  there are a few more options.
[02:09] <meditator> hello.. is there a command to mount a partition through the terminal ? thanks
[02:09] <rooks> does anyone know from where GDM sources users to display on login screen?
[02:09] <Dany___> it happens every time now...
[02:09] <Dany___> since today
[02:09] <hiexpo> check all usb
[02:09] <sacarlson> meditator: mount
[02:09] <Dany___> i just downloaded last ubuntu version and i wanted to try iy...
[02:09] <Dany___> it
[02:09] <MichealH> Maybe that is something on your ram that can't be removed? I dunno :/
[02:09] <Dany___> ok
[02:10] <Dany___> well thank u anyway
[02:10] <MichealH> Ubuntu comes with a memtester
[02:10] <wildeja> would anyone know why my remote desktop view won't update?
[02:10] <MichealH> Test your memory using memtest
[02:10] <Dany___> u know that in my italian chat, peole there just told me "It's impèossibile " and i get banned?
[02:10] <meditator> sacarlson, thanks.. how do i reference it ? i cannot see the drive in the media folder ?
[02:10] <Dany___> shit...
[02:11] <badnaam> can someone help me with my sound problems, headphone sound is total crap and i get simultaneous sound from headphone and speakers. all after lucid upgrade
[02:11] <sacarlson> meditator: man mount
[02:11] <Dany___> it's ridicolous...
[02:11] <hiexpo> !language
[02:11] <Connor1> MichealH
[02:11] <MichealH> Dany__, it's alll help help help in here
[02:11] <Dany___> yeah, tell to my italian friends...
[02:11] <Dany___> in ubuntu it
[02:11] <MichealH> Connor1?
[02:11] <Connor1> Hold on
[02:12] <Dany___> thanks michael, n9
[02:12] <sacarlson> meditator: to find what disks you have that can be mounted try fdisk -l   l= lower case L
[02:12] <MichealH> Dany__, no probe
[02:12] <Connor1> MichealH
[02:12] <Connor1> http://fpaste.org/wuyw/
[02:12] <badnaam> can someone help me with my sound problems, headphone sound is total crap and i get simultaneous sound from headphone and speakers. all after lucid upgrade. please help
[02:12] <badnaam> using alsa
[02:13] <IdleOne_> what is the path to sudoers ?
[02:13] <badnaam> can someone help me with my sound problems, headphone sound is total crap and i get simultaneous sound from headphone and speakers. all after lucid upgrade. I dont even see ant headphone settings in alsa mixer
[02:13] <Connor1> DirtBAG256
[02:13] <Connor1> http://fpaste.org/wuyw/
[02:14] <white_magic> which directory do apps normally install to?
[02:14] <white_magic> i just installed JDownload, but of course, i have no idea where it actually lives
[02:14] <white_magic> *JDownloader
[02:14] <MichealH> Conor1, it seems your card is struggling to see your router perfectly
[02:14] <badnaam> can someone help me with my sound problems, headphone sound is total crap and i get simultaneous sound from headphone and speakers. all after lucid upgrade. I dont even see ant headphone settings in alsa mixer
[02:14] <wildeja> Turns out the answer was simple, I'm suprised no one could help, oh well
[02:15] <Connor1> MichealH what do?
[02:15] <Oer> white_magic, downloads appear in ~/Downloads
[02:15] <MichealH> Connor1, how old us this wireless card?
[02:15] <Connor1> MichealH it is nearing a year in...November I think.
[02:16] <Connor1> I had to use ndiswrapper when I got it since it was so new
[02:16] <MichealH> Connor1: have you got the latest kernel from
[02:16] <Connor1> I'm on Ubuntu 10
[02:16] <Connor1> brb bathroom
[02:16] <MichealH> Update msngaer ?
[02:16] <Connor1> MichealH how long will you be on IRC?
[02:17] <MichealH> Annotjer hour or so
[02:17] <divecks> untill your dick explodes
[02:17] <Connor1> Also is linux-headers default in Ubuntu?
[02:17] <ZykoticK9> sacarlson, you might want to point out you need to use "sudo fdisk -l" in order to see anything.  meditator
[02:17] <Connor1> As in installed?
[02:17] <badnaam> can someone help me with my sound problems, headphone sound is total crap and i get simultaneous sound from headphone and speakers. all after lucid upgrade. I dont even see ant headphone settings in alsa mixer
[02:17] <MichealH> Connor1: I think so
[02:17] <Connor1> Plau
[02:18] <ZykoticK9> !patience | badnaam
[02:18] <white_magic> if i have a .sh file, what do i do with it/
[02:18] <MichealH> Patience is s virtue
[02:18] <Connor1> Brb
[02:18] <ZykoticK9> white_magic, sh = shell script
[02:19] <white_magic> i figured that out
[02:19] <white_magic> i ran the script
[02:19] <sudoer> i just installed ubuntu 10.1 and the first thing I did was "apt-get  install build-essential " and it fails with E: Broken packages
[02:19] <white_magic> but i dunno what happens next
[02:19] <bazhang> sudoer, 10.10 ?
[02:19] <sudoer> whats all that about?
[02:19] <white_magic> not sure where the app got installed
[02:19] <sudoer> 10.10
[02:19] <bazhang> sudoer, #ubuntu+1 for that
[02:20] <MichealH> Sudoer: File a bug in Launchpad
[02:20] <sudoer> MichealH: isnt everyone using this already?
[02:20] <sdk> Heyas all.  I thought the channle for beta/unstable/next release of Ubuntu was #ubuntu+, but it seems I am mistaken.  Could anyone kindly point me to the channel for 10.10?
[02:20] <bazhang> MichealH, its maverick
[02:20] <bazhang> sudoer, #ubuntu+1 not here
[02:21] <sdk> That's it.. ubuntu+1!  Thanks bazhang!  Not addressed to me, but helpful nonetheless.  :) Peace.
[02:21] <MichealH> Bazhang, ahhh okay :D
[02:21] <bazhang> sdk, #ubuntu+1
[02:21] <bazhang> sdk :)
[02:22] <MichealH> Connor1: back yet?
[02:22] <sudoer> sorry, it is Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[02:22] <bazhang> MichealH, has he provided a pastebin of lspci and lsusb yet?
[02:22] <sudoer> bazhang: is this the right channel for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ?
[02:23] <MichealH> bashing, hasn't seemed so
[02:23] <bazhang> sudoer, yep
[02:23] <ND-movie> hello
[02:23] <bazhang> MichealH, we need to see that
[02:23] <MichealH> Sorry bazhang
[02:23] <sudoer> so, why would such a basic package fail
[02:23] <sudoer> i jsut want to install some programs :(
[02:23] <ND-movie> hello
[02:23] <ND-movie> could someone help me
[02:23] <MichealH> I'm gonna have to ask him
[02:23] <ND-movie> i'm trying to set up a serial console
[02:23] <ND-movie> and i'm running into problems
[02:23] <ND-movie> the tutorial i'm using uses /etc/inittab
[02:24] <bazhang> ND-movie, please easy on the enter key
[02:24] <ND-movie> which ubuntu no longer uses, so i'm stuck :(
[02:24] <bazhang> !upstart | ND-movie
[02:24] <ND-movie> i know
[02:25] <ND-movie> but its not a plain vty100
[02:25] <MichealH> bazhang: beat me to it!
[02:25] <ND-movie> ii'm having trouble configuring the terminal setting (dimensioins, etc)
[02:25] <ND-movie> because its an old TRS-80 model 100
[02:25] <bazhang> !enter | ND-movie
[02:25] <ND-movie> fair enough
[02:26] <bazhang> ND-movie, its really hard to understand your issue when you do that
[02:26] <uRock> what command do I use to recursively change the permissions in every folder in home to 777?
[02:26] <MichealH> It's for your benefit :-)
[02:26] <ND-movie> well let me ask you guys this: do you know where the replacement is for /etc/inittab?
[02:26] <ND-movie> uRock
[02:26] <ND-movie> uRock: chmod -R 777 *
[02:26] <uRock> ?
[02:26] <uRock> thanx
[02:26] <MichealH> URock, Why would you want to do that?
[02:27] <badnaam> can someone help me with sound issuesplease?
[02:27] <MichealH> ND-movie it's on the etc folder
[02:27] <ND-movie> http://www.crackmonkey.org/~octal/mod100.xhtml
[02:28] <ND-movie> if you look in that link
[02:28] <uRock> cause when I instlled 10.04 over 9.10 it screwed up the themes and I can't fix them so I created a new account and am coping everything but confs over to the new account, MichealH
[02:28] <ND-movie> theres  a config file for trs100
[02:28] <ND-movie> urock: dont chmod then
[02:28] <ND-movie> chown
[02:28] <ND-movie> change the _owner_ of the files
[02:28] <uRock> k
[02:28] <ZykoticK9> uRock, careful with that 777 command.  You probably don't want all your files executable.
[02:28] <uRock> thanx
[02:28] <xangua> what's wrong with themes uRock¿
[02:28] <ND-movie> chown -R newuser:newgroup *
[02:29] <Leemp> Question: When mounting a drive that is ext3 formatted, do you use the type of ext2 when mounting it? (mount -t ext /dev/foo /bar) ?
[02:29] <MichealH> Conn
[02:29] <MichealH> Connor1?
[02:29] <uRock> thanx ND
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> Leemp:  use ext3
[02:30] <ND-movie> no problemo
[02:30] <ZykoticK9> Leemp, mount without a -t should work for ext3
[02:30] <Leemp> Dr_Willis: K, i had a drive give a bad superblock error when i used type ext3, but when i used ext2 it loaded fine
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> Leemp:  mount should auto-detect it if you dont use a -t XXX option
[02:30] <Leemp> Dr_Willis: And if i did not use it, it couldn't figure out the fs type
[02:31] <NightDragon> MichealH: do you know where in /etc? thats a pretty big folder lol
[02:31] <Leemp> Dr_Willis: I hate my Drobo. :(
[02:31] <NightDragon> specifically, where the terminal config files are stored
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> Leemp:  thats odd.. time to backup and fsck the drive.
[02:32] <Leemp> Dr_Willis: From what i've read fsck doesn't help much with Drobos.
[02:32] <Leemp> Dr_Willis: I'm thinking about migrating away from it.
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> never heard the term drobos befor
[02:32] <uRock> xangua, I wasn't ignoring you, I have already started moving everything and gave up fixing the theming in the old account
[02:32] <uRock> xangua, thanx for offering
[02:33] <Leemp> Dr_Willis: It's nice, if you use their tools. heh. It's basically a raid device. A nice clean box handling all the raid work. But Linux is a whole 'nother story.
[02:33] <MichealH> NightDragon: in the init.x folders (where x is a number)
[02:34] <Connor1> MichealH I'm back
[02:34] <MichealH> Horay
[02:34] <Connor1> wlan0 is bringing up no results
[02:34] <MichealH> Okay
[02:34] <Connor1> iwconfig outputs "802.11bgn"
[02:34] <MichealH> Can you post the results if lspci and lsusb ???
[02:35] <MichealH> In a pastebin
[02:35] <MichealH> :-)
[02:35] <NightDragon> MichealH: There is no init.#, just init, and init.d
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  what are you liooking for exactly?
[02:36] <ZykoticK9> NightDragon, that's all you are suppose to have ;)
[02:36] <MichealH> NightDragon, it's in i
[02:36] <MichealH> *init.d
[02:37] <ZykoticK9> NightDragon, init = upstart, init.d = old-school
[02:37] <MichealH> Connor1: You running them commands?
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> init = newer upstart type init scripts.. init.d = older stuff. :)
[02:37] <Connor1> MichealH yes
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> heh.  many of the things in init.d are actually links to the init upstart scripts last i checked
[02:37] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, great minds think alike and fools seldom differ ;)
[02:37] <Connor1> http://fpaste.org/sAva/
[02:38] <MichealH> Connor1
[02:39] <NightDragon> Dr_Willis: ZykoticK9, MichealH: the problem is that i'm having a hard time finding where the console settings are defined
[02:39] <NightDragon> for example
[02:39] <NightDragon> vt100 is one of the console profiles
[02:39] <NightDragon> its defined somewhere, i cant find that somewhere
[02:39] <Connor1> MichealH
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  what console settings are you talking about exzctly?
[02:39] <NightDragon> Well since i'm setting this up on a Model 100, its not exactly vt100 compatable
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  'settings' are not in the init.d or init dirs.. those are init scripts that run carious servic ew
[02:40] <NightDragon> so i have to make my server talk model100
[02:40] <NightDragon> (i know that)
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  start from the begining perhps.. You are using a SERIAL terminal?
[02:40] <NightDragon> yes.
[02:40] <MichealH> bazhang, http://fpaste.org/sAva/
[02:41] <NightDragon> Dr_Willis: I'm trying to follow this tut: http://www.crackmonkey.org/~octal/mod100.xhtml
[02:41] <bazhang> As of Lucid 10.04, just update linux kernel from lucid-updates.  MichealH for that
[02:42] <Connor1> MichealH
[02:42] <rookfood> hey, anyone here own a dell refurbished monitor?
[02:42] <MichealH> Bazhang: just as I suggested
[02:42] <bazhang> As of Lucid 10.04, just update linux kernel from lucid-updates.   Connor1
[02:42] <bazhang> !ot | rookfood
[02:42] <MichealH> Connor1: yes?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  that tutorial is rather dated.. initab isent used by default any more. if you need to run a special command at boot time for that devcce. you could run it from rc.local as an alternative
[02:43] <Connor1> MichealH you beeped me first
[02:43] <NightDragon> i know
[02:43] <NightDragon> thats why i'm here :)
[02:43] <FreshPrince> what is "backend" i see this on "top" it uses a lot of cpu ussage about 70%
[02:43] <NightDragon> my issue isnt running it,
[02:43] <Connor1> alias wlan0 r8192se isn't working MichealH
[02:43] <NightDragon> if you notice... there is a special term configuration on that page for the trs100
[02:43] <NightDragon> i want to know where to put that information.
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  thats in the termcap file it seems..
[02:43] <Connor1> MichealH is my wireless card pci?
[02:44] <MichealH> Connor1: have you got the latest updates?
[02:44] <bazhang> Connor1, 8172
[02:44] <Connor1> MichealH yes
[02:44] <Connor1> bazhang I know
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> !findtermcap
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> !find termcap
[02:44] <NightDragon> Dr_Willis: well i'm assuming that even on the most recent ubuntu dist, that 'vt100' is defined somewhere, yes?
[02:45] <Connor1> bazhang do I want the SE?
[02:45] <Connor1> Nevermind, dumb question
[02:45] <MichealH> Connor1: New or old kernel?
[02:45] <bazhang> Connor1, could you pastebin your sources.list please
[02:45] <MichealH> Connor2: worth a try
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  from excploreing etc - in /etc/terminfo/README it points to /lib/terminfo/v/vt100   :)
[02:45] <Connor1> MichealH new
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  so the termcap file has been totally revamped also  :)
[02:46] <bazhang> Connor1, and the output of lsb_release -a as well please
[02:46] <cy4ka> guys please join #fuckaz - a very weird, yet interesting channel, u'll be surprised
[02:46] <cy4ka> guys please join #fuckaz - a very weird, yet interesting channel, u'll be surprised
[02:46] <FloodBot3> cy4ka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:46] <NightDragon> gotcha
[02:46] <NightDragon> thanks
[02:46] <Connor1> bazhang where be sources.list
[02:46] <NightDragon> Dr_Willis: i *think* i know where to set the getty line, you just told me what i needed to know, thank you :)
[02:46] <Connor1> I think I might have the solution
[02:47] <Connor1> Don't tell me to run anything yet
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  the getty line. you could run from the console as a test. or rc.local
[02:47] <bazhang> Connor1, cat /etc/apt/sources.list and copy to paste.ubuntu.com please
[02:47] <Connor1> Don't tell me to run anything yet
[02:47] <MichealH> Grr I'm
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Ive not used a serial terminal on a machine in years. :)  I still got one in the garrage
[02:47] <seekwill> Does using LVM add IO overhead? Or is it pretty light?
[02:47] <MichealH> Nit thinking!
[02:48] <bazhang> MichealH, if he is running the most updated version of lucid then his card is supported. just want to check his sources.list and lsb_release -a output to confirm
[02:48] <MichealH> Connor1: Works?
[02:48] <Connor1> MichealH I don't know yet
[02:49] <NightDragon> Dr_Willis: well considering that this server (a simple file server) is in my dorm room, and i really dont want to put a monitor and keyboard up here, i'm thinking an uber small serial terminal is the way to go :)
[02:49] <MichealH> bazhang, Yeah it's always best to check :)
[02:52] <NightDragon> Dr_Willis: what is the replacement for /etc/inittab? where all of the getty lines are?
[02:52] <MichealH> !patience
[02:52] <edbian> Will these be included in Debian 6?  http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/08/20/234248/Open-Source-2D-3D-Drivers-For-ATI-Radeon-HD-5000-Series
[02:53] <Connor1> MichealH
[02:53] <bazhang> edbian, try in #debian
[02:53] <MichealH> Connor1: yes?
[02:53] <Connor1> I'm in /usr/src, how do I label my desktop as a directory in a command
[02:53] <edbian> whoops
[02:53] <Connor1> sudo tar xzvf /desktop/example.tar.gz ?
[02:53] <DirtBAG256> hi all!
[02:53] <MichealH> Connor1: ~/
[02:54] <Connor1> Thanks MichealH
[02:54] <MichealH> !hi | dirtbag256
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  the whole init system is moving to Upstart. inittab hasent been used in a long time
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> !upstart | NightDragon
[02:54] <Connor1> sudo cp -rf firmware/RTL8192SE /lib/firmware
[02:55] <Connor1> No such file or directory
[02:55] <Connor1> firmware/RTL
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  this is why i mentioned rc.local as a easy place to put it.
[02:55] <bazhang> Connor1, that's not what you need
[02:55] <NightDragon> mmkay
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  or make a upstart init script for it. (harder)
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> !inittab
[02:55] <bazhang> Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8172 (rev 10)  Connor1 not 8192
[02:56] <NightDragon> Dr_Willis: okay, so would i want to put this in there?
[02:56] <NightDragon> S1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty -h ttyS1 9600 trs100
[02:56] <MichealH> I second bazhang
[02:56] <NightDragon> or just the getty part of that?
[02:56] <NightDragon> (from /sbin/getty on)
[02:56] <bazhang> Connor1, please pastebin sources.list and lsb_release -a
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  yes...  since the other parts are Inittab specific.. and NOT a command. :)
[02:56] <NightDragon> mmk tyvm
[02:56] <astrozombie138> hello
[02:56] <MichealH> Hello Astros
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  you can test the thing by just running 'sudo getty -h ttyS1 9600 trs100 '
[02:57] <astrozombie138> I'm having trouble using the CLI installer, im unable to connect to WPA access ppoints
[02:57] <MichealH> Phwew I'm
[02:57] <Connor1> bazhang g>
[02:58] <astrozombie138> but with the same computer using OpenSuse's CLI installer I can just fine
[02:58] <Connor1> For Realtek 8172 owners, while this guide talk about using the 8192se driver it works for the 8172 as well.
[02:58] <NightDragon> well whadya know, its not working
[02:58] <MichealH> Reeeeeaaaallly tired
[02:58] <NightDragon> isnt it supposed to be ttyS0
[02:58] <MichealH> Connot1 it works?
[02:58] <astrozombie138> so the debian installer doesnt have WPA support?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> NightDragon:  totally depends on the serial port you are connected to.
[02:58] <Connor1> MichealH I'm getting an error
[02:58] <MichealH> Connor1 ^^
[02:58] <MichealH> Ahhh
[02:58] <Connor1> sudo cp -rf firmware/RTL8192SE /lib/firmware
[02:59] <Connor1> It gives me cannot stat 'firmware/RTL8192SE': No such file or directory
[02:59] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Realtek%208172   Connor1
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> Connor1:  and is the firmware directory in your current working directory?
[02:59] <MichealH> Connor if it's in you home use ~/ infront
[03:00] <rafazed> hey im bored, what can I do in ubuntu to have fun??
[03:00] <bazhang> As of Lucid 10.04, just update linux kernel from lucid-updates. Connor1 for that nic
[03:00] <xangua> !ot > rafazed
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> rafazed:  read man pages.
[03:00] <Connor1> bazhang what exactly is lucid-updaets
[03:00] <rafazed> srry
[03:01] <MichealH> Connor1: updates for lucid
[03:01] <bazhang> Connor1, would you please give us that pastebin?
[03:01] <Connor1> bazhang which one?
[03:01] <MichealH> Oh 3 am
[03:01] <bazhang> Connor1, sources.list and lsb_release -a
[03:02] <Connor1> bazhang not right now
[03:02] <Connor1> bazhang how do I open lucid-updates?
[03:02] <Connor1> Is it just the update manager?
[03:02] <bazhang> Connor1, lucid there is no need to do the compiling
[03:02] <Connor1> I'm on Lucid.
[03:02] <MichealH> Connor1: Were. Trying to jelp
[03:02] <bazhang> Connor1, need the pastebin to troubleshoot.
[03:02] <Connor1> I'm sorry.
[03:02] <Connor1> I'll get the pastebin right now
[03:03] <astrozombie138> guess I'm going back to Suse Then
[03:03] <Connor1> bazhang where was sources.list
[03:03] <Dice-Man>  gparted suck on the livecd
[03:03] <Dice-Man> what a pity
[03:03] <Connor1> Dice-Man gparted live cd rules
[03:03] <Dice-Man> yep
[03:03] <bazhang> Connor1, /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> Dice-Man:  cant say that ive ever had an issue with it.. state the problem will be more productive.
[03:03] <Connor1> bazhang "No LSB modules are available"
[03:03] <Dice-Man> hum
[03:04] <bazhang> Connor1, pastebin the full output please, its more than one line
[03:04] <Connor1> fpaste.org/qyky
[03:04] <Dice-Man> Dr_Willis, it does not run but i'm not on linux right now
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> Connor1:  it says more then that. :) Ive no idea why it alsays says that  thing about the module
[03:04] <Dice-Man> i cannot give more precise infos
[03:04] <Connor1> fpaste.org/l4mr
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> Dice-Man:  odd.. its ran for me.. we cant help then.
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> Dice-Man:  there are also dedicated 'gparted' live cd's that include newer versions and other tools  - a must have for a PC toolbox.
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> I dident think gparted was included by default on the desktop cd either.
[03:05] <Dice-Man> it is
[03:05] <Dice-Man> but i think the use of the gparted livecd is sure
[03:05] <MichealH> www.fpaste.org/l4mr
[03:06] <MichealH> Argh!
[03:06] <raiffa> anyone know how I can map likewise-open login names to something that does not contain backslashes? for some applications, the backslash in 'MYDOMAIN\username' causes problems.
[03:06] <MTecknology> what package does gnome-mouse-properties come in?
[03:06] <MichealH> Silly client
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> !find gnome-mouse-properties
[03:06] <MTecknology> thanks
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> MTecknology:  one of those. :) im guessing the 3rd
[03:07] <Connor1> bazhang did that help?
[03:08] <bazhang> Connor1, you are on ethernet now correct? and fully updated?
[03:08] <Connor1> The updates are applying right now
[03:08] <Connor1> ANd yes
[03:08] <Connor1> And*
[03:08] <Connor1> I'm on my desktop, my laptop is next to me
[03:09] <bazhang> Connor1, because your release version shows 10.04 and the most up to date is 10.04.1
[03:09] <Connor1> Oh I see
[03:09] <Connor1> Well I'm installing every update that was on the list
[03:09] <aurilliance> I'm trying to do the following "tar --help | grep -f" as In, I want to search through the tar help for the phrase "-f"
[03:09] <bazhang> Connor1, you'll need to get it going without the ethernet you realize
[03:09] <MichealH> ... That'll be alot
[03:09] <aurilliance> But grep keeps reading the -f as an arg. How can I escape it?
[03:09] <Connor1> bazhang...which is why I'm trying to get my wireless card working
[03:09] <bazhang> Connor1, then your wireless will work
[03:09] <Connor1> MichealH I have a fast internet connection
[03:10] <Connor1> 253 m
[03:10] <Connor1> 253 mb*
[03:10] <Connor1> Isn't a lot
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> My remease shows 10.04 but Description is --> Description:Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[03:10] <MichealH> Phew
[03:10] <bazhang> Connor1, ie startup without the wired connection (ethernet plugged in)
[03:10] <Connor1> bazhang I'll do that when the updates are finished
[03:11] <bazhang> Connor1, then we can troubleshoot, once wireless is going
[03:11] <Connor1> Okay
[03:11] <Connor1> Thanks for your help
[03:11] <MichealH> This may be my chance for a testimonial!
[03:11] <MichealH> heh
[03:11] <MTecknology> is gnome-mouse-properties supposed to have anything about configuring the area for scrolling on the right side of the touchpad?
[03:12] <MichealH> Conner1: how helpful have I been?
[03:12] <aurilliance> nm, I got it (need a double backslash)
[03:14] <MichealH> I nearly fell asleep there
[03:14] <MichealH> I weakly need some sleep
[03:15] <bazhang> MichealH, lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:15] <MichealH> Yeah
[03:16] <MichealH> Connor1: updates done yet?
[03:17] <Connor1> MichealH almost
[03:17] <Connor1> My laptop isn't a speed demon
[03:17] <Connor1> It's fast enough for me though
[03:17] <MichealH> Yeah
[03:18] <MichealH> My batterys flat :(
[03:18] <MichealH> Nearly
[03:18] <robertzaccour> oh ok
[03:18] <rww> there you go :)
[03:19] <robertzaccour> is it possible to get the jaunty theme? that one is my favorite
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> !theme
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  proberly avail at the various theme sites.
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  or it may be in the repos - not installed by default
[03:20] <robertzaccour> Dr_Willis, still looking
[03:20] <headkase314> Chicken, how many nicks you going to go through?
[03:21] <rww> ubottu: nickspam | Chikin
[03:21] <Chikin> Was trying to find an animal that wasnt registered
[03:22] <MTecknology> asus is supposed to have excellent linux support, right?
[03:22] <Chikin> I bet 90% of the animal nicks are in #Ubuntu
[03:22] <rww> Chikin: try /msg nickserv info nicknamehere to see if something's registered
[03:22] <MTecknology> Chikin: /msg nickserv info Chicken
[03:22] <Chikin> Ty
[03:23] <MichealH> Connor1: done?
[03:23] <Connor1> MichealH yes
[03:23] <MTecknology> what's the restricted drivers tool called?
[03:23] <Connor1> Just logged in
[03:23] <Connor1> I restarted
[03:24] <MichealH> Okay and do they work?
[03:24] <rww> MTecknology: package name jockey-gtk (or -qt), System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[03:24] <headkase314> MTecknology, System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> MTecknology:  jockey-gtk is the command to start it from command line
[03:24] <Connor1> MichealH you want me to unplug my wire right?
[03:24] <MTecknology> thanks :)
[03:25] <MichealH> Yes
[03:25] <MichealH> Let the wireless try
[03:25] <Connor1> Connection Established
[03:25] <MichealH> Does it wor
[03:26] <MichealH> Ohhh
[03:26] <Connor1> Success
[03:26] <MichealH> Jackpot
[03:26] <MTecknology> I guess there's nothing proprietary to even install on here
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> MTecknology:  depends on your video and wireless normally...
[03:26] <MichealH> It's took 4 hours bit it is
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> MTecknology:  on a few of my laptops. with intel video and the proper wireless cards.. they are 100% out of the box supported.
[03:27] <MTecknology> Dr_Willis: I just bought a new laptop - other told me that it thinks I need a new one
[03:27] <MichealH> Connor1: wanna write me a testimonial?
[03:28] <MichealH> Connor1?
[03:28] <Flannel> MichealH: This isn't an appropriate place to solicit those, please speak with the teams you've been interacting with.
[03:28] <MTecknology> Dr_Willis: I got an Asus K501
[03:28] <MichealH> Okay flannel
[03:29] <nulled> can someone please try to access http://pxmb.com and tellme if it loads in a browseer ok?
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> MTecknology:  i got a toshiba x505 the other day. :) 18.4 Display. 2 HD's  - Runs Ubuntu great. :)
[03:29] <rww> nulled: doesn't work for me
[03:29] <nulled> ok thx
[03:29] <FBP> Hi. I manged to install java, but it installed the 64-bit jvm. It seems that applets will only run under the 32-bit jvm but it was not installed. How can I get it?
[03:29] <nulled> how about http://205.252.250.16
[03:30] <rww> nulled: it attempts to redirect to pxmb.com and thus fails
[03:30] <bazhang> nulled, negative
[03:30] <rww> http://www.pxmb.com/index.php , to be specific
[03:30] <nulled> right.. ok well dns is down thx for helping
[03:30] <MTecknology> Dr_Willis: you should help me with this one? :D
[03:31] <MTecknology> Dr_Willis: If you were so lucky - we should share my joy :D
[03:31] <rww> nulled: your DNS record points to 205.252.250.4, not .16
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> MTecknology:  with most of the laptops i try uibuntu on these days.. its install.. and go..  - perhaps plug in a wired networking cable to get wireless dfrivers downloaded.. and thats about it.
[03:33] <MTecknology> wireless was perfect at least - thank god it wasn't broadcom
[03:33] <rww> my bcm4312 works fine with the non-free driver, tyvm
[03:33] <rww> takes five minutes to set up
[03:33] <Connor1> I feel dumb now...
[03:34] <ziroday> Hi, is it possible to take the last 500 lines or so outputted to the terminal and save them in a text file?
[03:34] <MTecknology> Dr_Willis: I have all but 1 Fn key not working, the side scroll on the touchpad not working, the screen brightness doesn't work, and the screen does some weird stuff sometimes
[03:34] <MTecknology> Dr_Willis: aside from that... it's working perfect
[03:35] <MTecknology> Dr_Willis: I'm tempted to return this, bring an ubuntu live cd with me, then make my selection based on support
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> MTecknology:  test it out in the next release first. it may all work better.
[03:35] <MTecknology> good point
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> MTecknology:  it seems to happen that way a lot.. laptop with liots of issues .. next reelase.. it all works better.
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> MTecknology:  if nothing else you can report bugs and perhaps get them fixed in the next release
[03:36] <MTecknology> I'll start downloading live cd's for both
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> Given the varity of laptops out there.. its amazing ubuntu works as well as it does in so m any of them.
[03:36] <MTecknology> indeed
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> I moved the same ubuntu install from a low end nvidia video laptop.. to my new High end laptop. :) worked with no twiddling other then setting the res properly
[03:37] <MTecknology> Warning: This image is oversized (which is a bug) and will not fit onto a standard 700MB CD. However, you may still test it using a DVD, a USB drive, or a virtual machine.
[03:37] <MTecknology> yay
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> MTecknology:  yep. works in progres for 10.10
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> I always use flash drives.
[03:38] <MTecknology> Dr_Willis: ya, but I don't have any dvd's laying around - sucky
[03:38] <MTecknology> I don't have a flash drive either :P
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> How can you NOT have a dozen of those things.. :)
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> I got a 'key hook' shelf with like 10 of them hanging on it.
[03:39] <MTecknology> lack of funds
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> 4GB = 10$ i saw today.
[03:39] <MTecknology> they're that cheap now? wow
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> seen 2GB on sale for $5
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> seen 2gb for $1 after rebates befor also. (sales special)
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> 16gb = $29 i saw on sale (but they were out)
[03:40] <akrill> daaaaamn has this channel grown.
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> akrill:  actually its a slow day. :) on release day ive seen 3000+ in here.
[03:41] <akrill> sheesh. i havent been in here in years :-p
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> I tend to avoide the channel for a week after release. :) Too hectic
[03:41] <akrill> xD
[03:42] <akrill> anyone here experienced with creating EBS-based AMIs from one of the existing EBS-baed lucid amd64 AMIs?
[03:42] <akrill> im having some bizarre issues
[03:42] <akrill> (this is of course in regard to ubuntu on EC2)
[03:42] <Dice-Man> normal
[03:48] <akrill> ah HA!
[03:48] <akrill> i think i figured it out
[03:48] <itheos> hello!! my pdf files dont open in maximized window. i have to maximize them everytime. they open in random sizes. what can be the solution?
[03:49] <itheos> i use document viewer
[03:50] <itheos> also the brightness of my screen becomes max when i restart the laptop. and i have to set it again after every restart
[03:54] <[sleepy]> Sup
[03:56] <_DGM_> is there any way to remove/hide that username+status menu thing? part of "indicator applet session"
[03:57] <SynFlag> click derecho quitar del panel
[03:57] <_DGM_> sorry.. what?
[03:58] <repnop> _DGM_: right click on it and select remove from panel
[03:58] <bazhang> SynFlag, english please
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> _DGM_:  thats the Me Menu I think. :)
[03:58] <_DGM_> repnop: there isnt an option for that.. hence the question:P
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> Hopefully someday soon the whole system-tray-panel-indicadator area will get all cleaned up.
[03:59] <_DGM_> its taking up space on my netbook.. and since i'm not into all that social network crap.. i could use that space much better :P
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> _DGM_:  are you using the NETBOOK interface?
[03:59] <_DGM_> it seems a bit weird to me canonical seems to think they need to put a whole username on a screen that is already to small as it is :P
[03:59] <_DGM_> Dr_Willis: ye
[03:59] <SynFlag> bazhang: what for? if repnop has become my personal translator XD
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> _DGM_:  then you need to basically make a 'gnome desktop' session that clones the netbook interface. then you can customize it. the Netbook interface is locked down for some odd reason.
[04:00] <bazhang> SynFlag, this is an english only channel, if you need help in other languages there are ubuntu channels for that
[04:00] <_DGM_> Dr_Willis: the option to remove wasnt there on my desktop either though i checked
[04:00] <cookies123> question: i'm new to all this... is it permissible to pose questions which are only vaguely relevant... also to whom should such questions be directed?
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> http://maketecheasier.com/unlock-gnome-panel-in-ubuntu-netbook-edition-une/2010/04/25
[04:01] <bazhang> cookies123, ubuntu support here; unrelated in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:01] <SynFlag> bazhang: actually i dont need any help, in fact i come to help
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> _DGM_:  its here on my Desktop version..  i just looked
[04:02] <_DGM_> Dr_Willis: hmm strange. either way thanks for the link :) i'll give that a go
[04:02] <cookies123> thanks
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> _DGM_:  i found the kde netbook intface better in a great many ways.
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> _DGM_:  but with 10.10 theres that new Unity Interface.
[04:03] <Zelozelos> someone please tell me theres an easy way to fix, i ws messin around with gnome-do's settings and it all-of-a-sudden quit on me, then i thought i should just restart to fix, and now i can see my desktop, but cant do anything with it, also the panels arent displaying
[04:04] <Zelozelos> i can get to command lines via ctrl+alt f(whatev)
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  so can you get to a desktop at all?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[04:05] <Zelozelos> Dr_Willis, i do get the desktop background and icons, but i cant click on anything
[04:05] <dogmatic69> is it possible to use wild cards in hosts file
[04:06] <Zelozelos> Dr_Willis, i tried removing gnome-do, purging it, reinstalling it, it makes no diff
[04:06] <dogmatic69> like ::1 *.dev
[04:06] <dogmatic69> that does not work, but something like that
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  lesson for the day.. remioving stuff via the package manager does NOT NOT NOT - remove the users settings in their home dirs. :)
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  theres some user settings. you can proberlyd elete to reset things.
[04:07] <Zelozelos> heh i ws just saying to myself i should do a backup today ;(
[04:07] <Zelozelos> i thought purge would remove their settings
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> clean out the users home dir/settings.. see if that works.. or as a test. make a new user. see if it works for them
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  purge does NOT NOT NOT touch the USERS settings in their HOME directory. :)
[04:07]  * Dr_Willis tries to make that VERY clear
[04:08] <Zelozelos> i attempted to make a new user via prompt but i couldnt quite fig it out
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  if you had 1000+ users.. and removed gnome-do would you want all 1000+ users to lose their settings? :)
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> sudo adduser billgates
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> enter info,, login as billgates
[04:08] <Zelozelos> dont i need 2 set a password for the user?
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  it asks....
[04:09] <Zelozelos> ahh
[04:09] <Zelozelos> ok
[04:09] <Zelozelos> ill do that then migrate to the new user agin ;)
[04:09] <roky> So, I have installed the minimal ubuntu. If I choose the pre-configured selection of packages for ubuntu desktop, Will it install everything that the live cd normally would have? Because I don't want that. Or will it just install a "base" ubuntu with gnome.
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> If theres no settings in gnome you want to save.. ->  http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[04:09] <Zelozelos> what if i just delete the gnome-do settings?
[04:10] <_DGM_> Dr_Willis: it unlocked my bar but if i remove it it also removes the shutdown button :P oh well
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  prove its a gnome-do issue.. :) it may not be a gnome do issue. I dont knwo where the gnome-do settings are at.
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  they are somewhere in those dirs that url mentions i imagine
[04:10] <Zelozelos> heh. prob easier just to migrate
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  easier to just remove the users setting files and let them get remade
[04:12] <Zelozelos> so just sudo ill give that a try 1st. ty Dr_Willis
[04:12] <Zelozelos> rofl
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> so just sudo? Huh?
[04:13] <Zelozelos> that ws 1st half of an idea uncompleted....heh...kinda sums me up then rofl
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> ~/.config/autostart is where gnome-do is getting auto started from also,.. you could disable it from there and see if its in fsact a gnome-do issue
[04:14] <Zelozelos> brb
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> I think we need to track down a 'clean out settings' tool :)
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> for users settings
[04:15] <bryan_r59> hey. what sorts of things can i do to make Ubuntu cooler, more features, and stable/fast? all at once
[04:15] <spinningcompass> bryan_r59: Upgrade to Windows 7?
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> bryan_r59:  how.. vague..
[04:15] <bryan_r59> what
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> bryan_r59:  check out the various articals at teh OMGubuntu  web site. theres some neat articals on there .
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> Theres extra themes/compiz plugins in teh repos. Not installed by default also.
[04:16] <bryan_r59> is it a .com
[04:16] <IdleOne> bryan_r59: yes
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/clicompanion-makes-getting-comfortable.html
[04:18] <roky> I have a definant new found respect for the Ubuntu installer under the minimal cd.
[04:18] <roky> Very well done.
[04:18] <roky> especially when configuring the desktop/server.
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> bryan_r59:  check out -> http://lin-app.com/ also
[04:20] <saxonjf> Can someone explain why I am getting this warning? Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> saxonjf:  server could be down or overloaded.
[04:21] <saxonjf> Dr_Willlis, it's been like that for days.
[04:23] <Spaztic_One> What is a good Windows program loader other than wine? I'm wanting to see if there is something that supports some of the programs that wine does not.
[04:23] <saxonjf> Man, this place is dead.  This place used to be hopping
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> it is 12:00 on friday night in the usa...
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> Spaztic_One:  wine or its variants/spinoffs or run in a virtual machine.. thats the 2 options
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> There was a new wine release just  today or yesterday or somthing. :)
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> this week at least.
[04:24] <roky> saxonjf: yer, only the ners are on right now ;)
[04:24] <Spaztic_One> technically its only 11:24, and only on the east coast
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/wine-131-released.html
[04:24] <Spaztic_One> and there was?
[04:25] <saxonjf> I thought maybe it was the registration requirement that's throwing it off.
[04:26] <roky> will runtime 1 in the kernel get me to command line in Ubuntu?
[04:26] <hiexpo> think it was yesturday
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> roky:  runlevel 1 you mean?
[04:26] <roky> err sorry :x
[04:26] <roky> yes
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> roky:  or 'single' option   is command line also i recall..
[04:26] <hiexpo> ^ for wine
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> or the 'text' option to get to the Login: only with no gdm.
[04:27] <roky> yeah thanks mate.
[04:27] <roky> been using arch for awhile, and i'm not used to all this automounting and auto configuring again :x i'm almost confused. haha
[04:27] <saxonjf> quit
[04:28] <Spaztic_One> Hmm, they haven't updated the source thing yet it doesn't seem.
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> 'text' option disables plymouth and gdm/kdm.
[04:28] <hiexpo> that was q4wine > wine was on the 30th of july
[04:28] <BlackPower> Hi Im new to this network
[04:28] <BlackPower> Im an immigrant from Dalnet
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> BlackPower:  Not been on Dalnet in ages. :) I used to be there all the time.
[04:29] <psycho789> is it possible to join an aim chat in empathy? everything is greyed out
[04:29] <psycho789> like a group chat i mean
[04:29] <BlackPower> Hi if you black go to my new channel #WhitePeopleHaveSmallDicks thank you have and a nice day :)
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> now i rember why i left dalnet.
[04:30] <Spaztic_One> haha
[04:31] <hiexpo> !language | blackpower
[04:31] <bastid_raZor> hiexpo: you must have too much stuff /ignored
[04:31] <psycho789> can you join aim group chats in empathy
[04:32] <hiexpo> bastid_raZor,  < what did i miss
[04:32] <bastid_raZor> hiexpo: mr power was banned immediately afterwards.
[04:33] <hiexpo> bastid_raZor,  ok now i see it oops
[04:35] <bryan_r59> hey um
[04:36] <SuperMiguel> how do i make a minimal install of ubuntu??? just download the server edition?
[04:36] <bryan_r59> Does Ubuntu work closely with Social Security?
[04:36] <bazhang> !minimal | SuperMiguel
[04:36] <bazhang> bryan_r59, no
[04:36] <bryan_r59> ok
[04:36] <abhijit> hi
[04:36] <_DGM_> bryan_r59: why do you ask :P
[04:36] <bryan_r59> i get my checks from them.. and wanted to know if there is a better way to check on my deposits
[04:37] <_DGM_> um.. i'd say.. no
[04:38] <bryan_r59> i don't know why. i just get this feeling that Ubuntu should be associated with high tech government
[04:38] <IdleOne> bryan_r59: Please stick to the topic
[04:38] <hiexpo> why you remove the ban so fast if that was us wewould have to plrad to be reinstated
[04:38] <hiexpo> ^pleaded
[04:39] <cookies123> Would someone be able to help me hook up my macbook to the tv with a mini-dvi cable?
[04:40] <Spaztic_One> oh, the 1.3 version of wine is the dev version, not the stable
[04:40] <cookies123> no?
[04:40] <bazhang> cookies123, ubuntu on there?
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> mini dvi? cant say that ive ever seen one of those.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> if its dvi to a dvi tv.. should plug in just like a 2nd pc monitor.
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> Then use the monitor tool, and/or the keyboard fn-keys to enable the 2nd monitor.
[04:47] <_DGM_> i've heard of it.. but i think its just dvi with a different connector
[04:47] <_DGM_> just like dvi is really just hdmi
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> I hooked up pc to tv via hdmi. and oddly enough it wouldent get the proper rez from teh device.
[04:48] <itsux2bu> i put this in /etc/profile. i rebooted and waited at the login prompt. the screen still blanked out. so question is.. is there a file i can put this in so it gets executed before login.. like at boot time?    setterm -blank 0 -powersave off -powerdown 0
[04:48] <_DGM_> works fine on my laptop.. windows though.. i dont use linux for that
[04:48] <richardcavell> Any mencoder experts here?  I have a .flv file and I want it converted to .avi or .wmv and I want the sound muted.
[04:49] <_DGM_> ffmpeg is easier imo and theres plenty of info on it
[04:49] <afeijo> hi guys
[04:50] <_DGM_> hi
[04:50] <afeijo> I installed 2 identical ubuntu server in my virtualbox, how can I configure them both to run as a cluster?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> but the same tv hooked up via VGA - did get the proper res. 1360x768
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> itsux2bu:  rc.local perhaps.  but that will be for all users i imagine.
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> itsux2bu:  /etc/profile i think gets ran on each login shell.
[04:51] <_DGM_> hm odd.. when i use vga my resolution is always crap.. on hdmi it uses the whole tv panel properly
[04:51] <rawfodog> Hi guys, so I just installed breezy on an old box (from an official cd I had laying around). Thing is, I dont have blank cds and this doesnt boot from usb. How do I update some of the packages ?
[04:51] <_DGM_> but then again my laptop has an hdmi out.. not dvi
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> _DGM_:  my new one does also. Not tried it yet.
[04:51] <_DGM_> its great.. it even does sound
[04:52] <rawfodog> You know what Im even scared to upgrade as it runs perfect right now, just cant use the repositories. So im wondering if there is a way to use old repos, or if there is a guide for this kind of thing
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> rawfodog:  You want to update SOME pacakges? or upgrade to the latest release?
[04:52] <qcjn> hi, i d like to discuss with someone about backup application , like clonezilla, dd, ping, etc.. Caue i'm aiming to do systems, meaning the os, backup
[04:52] <itsux2bu> Dr_Willis, i want it for all users..  thats where it is now but if a user waits at login the screen blanks out..
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> rawfodog:  the repos for that old a install ahve moved to the archive servers I belive
[04:52] <_DGM_> it doesnt suck to be me :(
[04:53] <abhijit> how to change the homeback language? or do i need to install that language homeback directly?
[04:53] <rawfodog> Well... if I update latest release Im afraid it will kill the performance Im getting on this 700mhz pc (128megs). The only thing I need is a wifi gui and the few odd progs
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> itsux2bu:  try rc.local perhaps.
[04:53] <rawfodog> oh cool, so I can just change the repo list ? Ill google and find out the new address
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> rawfodog:  is your wireless even supported?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> !eol
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> rawfodog:  you could always try lubuntu
[04:54] <FreshPrince> 70% cpu usage because of "backend" what is that?
[04:55] <_DGM_> not good?
[04:55] <rawfodog> Yeah I found out I dont have cdrs heh, so I cant burn that distro
[04:56] <rawfodog> And this thing doesnt boot from usb so ...
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Put hd in a machine that can.. :)
[04:56] <_DGM_> rawfodog: if you have a usb stick you can install from that
[04:56] <rawfodog> Like I said, Im doing fine right now, just would like to get access to those repos
[04:56] <_DGM_> ah
[04:56] <rawfodog> THe computer wont boot from usb
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> or put HD in amachine and set up grub2 and a lubuntu iso file so it can boot/install it.
[04:57] <_DGM_> i dont know if you can actually downgrade.. somebody correct me if i'm wrong
[04:57] <_DGM_> like a whole distro.. i kinda doubt that
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> _DGM_:  not really
[04:57] <Leif> Help please, Ubuntu's gparted won't let me expand an ntfs partition (from empty space), it gives me an error to do it, can someone either help me, or point me to the right channel please?  Thank you.  Also, here is the data gparted tells me I need to give: http://pastebin.com/y3sMjmPt
[04:57] <_DGM_> so you'd have to burn a disc anyway
[04:57] <_DGM_> or do lan boot
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> rawfodog:  the repos get moved to some archive.ubuntu.somthing.com i recall
[04:58] <richardcavell> I have abc.flv and I want to convert it to .wmv or .avi.  I also want to remove the soundtrack, just have the video.  What command do I need?
[04:58] <rawfodog> k
[04:58] <rawfodog> searching now...
[04:58] <rawfodog> thx for the help btw
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  ffmpeg, or mencoder can proberly do that.
[04:58] <_DGM_> richardcavell: you asked that in #linux to and you got your answer :P
[04:58] <richardcavell> _DGM_: It would help me if you would give me the answer to my question
[04:59] <_DGM_> have you even tried googling for ffmpeg?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> ffmpeg  faq i recall has exact command line for converting.. it willd epend on what codec you want to use in the avi
[04:59] <_DGM_> top result "-an" disable audio recording
[05:00] <_DGM_> from the ffmpeg documentation
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> !appdb
[05:00] <_DGM_> there are also plenty of example commands
[05:00] <progre55> hi guys! how can I see my current internet bandwidth usage on a terminal?
[05:01] <MTecknology> What's a simple application to check if a webcam is working?
[05:02] <progre55> chatroulette.com =))
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> MTecknology:  Cheese is what i use
[05:03] <progre55> Dr_Willis: there was some terminal command to see your internet usage.. dont you know?
[05:03] <MTecknology> Dr_Willis: thanks
[05:03] <progre55> current bandwidth
[05:03] <afeijo> I installed 2 identical ubuntu server in my virtualbox, how can I configure them both to run as a cluster?
[05:03] <MTecknology> progre55: jnettop
[05:03] <MTecknology> Dr_Willis: that's really green..
[05:04] <progre55> MTecknology: thanks
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> MTecknology:  ive noticed with cheese and under some lightings situatiions it being greenish also.
[05:05] <raviepic3>  help | i installed apache using the apt-get command, now i want to remove it and install using the conventional compilation and installation using the package to learn, how can i remove the already installed apache completely ?
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> at work under the Hg Lights..  its really noticeable
[05:05] <raviepic3> i did a sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[05:06] <raviepic3> after this i browsed localhost and still the page is viewable
[05:06] <raviepic3> and when i do a /etc/init.d/apache2 status it says running :(
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> raviepic3:  stop the service. or reboot
[05:06] <raviepic3> what am i missing, please point me in the right direction
[05:06] <MTecknology> Dr_Willis: oh, I thought it was just the camera - I just wanted to know if that worked out of the box
[05:06] <maco> raviepic3: you forgot to stop it
[05:06] <raviepic3> these are the other three matches for apache apache2.2-common     apache2-mpm-prefork  apache2-utils, should i remove these too ?
[05:06] <raviepic3> oh ok
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> MTecknology:  ive seen that under different lighting these webcams often look very different/poorly
[05:06] <maco> raviepic3: just because its uninstalled doesnt mean it stopped running. its loaded into memory
[05:06] <raviepic3> so if i reboot it will get uninstalled or i should reboot, stop and then uninstall ?
[05:07] <shane-laptop> does anyone know what the name of the package is for "Real Media player"  or isn't it in the in repos anymore?
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> raviepic3:  stop the service or reboot.. WHy do you need to do it from souirce anyway?
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> shane-laptop: It may be at the getdeb web site. Why do you need real media player? ive playee rm and rmvb in mplayer/vlc in the past
[05:07] <Fudge> is it unusual to not be able to see windows7 partitions in lucid live , trying to dual boot but there claims to be no partition table. yet the windows7 boots fine if not booting from cd. acer aspire1
[05:07] <raviepic3> Dr_Willis, cause i need to learn how to compile and install and verify the installation is working fine
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> raviepic3:  you may want to learn with a simpiler application.
[05:08] <Dr_Willis>  ./configure, make, sudo make install.     :)
[05:08] <shane-laptop> Dr_Willis: I have some old .ra files, and vlc seems to laugh at them, let me give mplayer a try, they are RealAudio files though.
[05:08] <raviepic3> :P
[05:08] <raviepic3> yeah even i read its simple in internet with 4 steps
[05:08] <raviepic3> but want to do it practically
[05:08] <raviepic3> have never done
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> shane-laptop:  ive watched lots of .ra/rmvb in those 2 apps. mplayer may need to have some codecs isntalled.
[05:08] <raviepic3> Dr_Willis, maco thank you very much
[05:09] <maco> raviepic3: np
[05:09] <shane-laptop> Dr_Willis: I'm missing codex apparently, not sure.
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> shane-laptop:  w32codecs from medibuntu, and ubuntu-restricted-extras package should grab them
[05:10] <shane-laptop> Dr_Willis: I have the ubuntu-restricted, apparently not the w32codecs
[05:10] <abhijit> how to change the homeback language? or do i need to install that language homeback directly?
[05:10] <shane-laptop> Dr_Willis: thanks, I will check those out.
[05:11] <blackretina> Is there any way to get the audio from wmv files to play under VLC in Ubuntu?
[05:11] <SuperMiguel> when using the minimal install, is there a way to get a wireless connection???
[05:11] <tangentcollision> hey, what's up dog
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> blackretina:  it depends on the codec the audio is using. Ive played many wmv in vlc and mplauyer befor.
[05:11] <coz_> Fudge,  I am not sure ... I have not use a dual boot with windows7  up to now
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  you can configure wireless via the command line yes.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  if you have all the proper wireless drivers installed.
[05:12] <SuperMiguel> Dr_Willis, how do i get to the command line??
[05:12] <Jordan_U> blackretina: Does it play correctly in totem?
[05:12] <SuperMiguel> Dr_Willis, Well but i cant even do the install, it ask for network connection
[05:12] <tangentcollision> I need some help, yo son, and I am for real, I got a little problem and I just can't deal, my copy of windows is on an ISO so how can I run it live and take it slow
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  the minimal install defaulted to the console/command like i thought.
[05:12] <lahwran> pidgin or xchat? (those are the only options, don't ask why)
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  so youa re still in the Install process you are saying?
[05:13] <SuperMiguel> Dr_Willis, yup
[05:13] <maco> lahwran: xchat
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> lahwran:  most people perfer xchat for itc.
[05:13] <Jordan_U> !pm | blackretina
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  it may not be doable. if you need to download some wireless drivers.. sort of a catch22 situation.
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  Youmay want to uise a wired connection untill you install
[05:14] <SuperMiguel> umm
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> I always use wired during installs..  faster for me.
[05:15] <well_laid_lawn> wired is faster for everything...
[05:15] <blackretina> The audio in the WMV file isn't working in VLC or MPlayer, and it uses the Windows Media Audio 9 Codec.
[05:15] <greezmunkey> SuperMiguel: Do you have a winbox available that you can share your wireless Internet from during your install?
[05:15] <Jordan_U> SuperMiguel: You should be able to install a minimal system without network, then run "sudo tasksel" to get the standard options for groups of packages (ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu, LAMP, etc )
[05:15] <SuperMiguel> greezmunkey, i have few computers avilable not windows
[05:16] <abhijit> no one uses home bank????
[05:16] <greezmunkey> SuperMiguel: ok, not limited to Windows! :)
[05:16] <coz_> abhijit,   no I tried way back and didnt like it at least at that point
[05:16] <tangentcollision> so, can anyone help me at all? I will restate.
[05:16] <aarcane> what's the record uptime for a fully up to date, fully patched ubuntu system ?
[05:16] <abhijit> coz_, ohh :(
[05:16] <coz_> blackretina,   is mplayer  gmplayer on your system?
[05:16] <abhijit> !details | tangentcollision
[05:17] <abhijit> coz_, which software you use?
[05:17] <coz_> blackretina,   if it is mplayer  gui   right click the main window and go to Preferences
[05:17] <SuperMiguel> Dr_Willis, i know the full install has my wireless drivers but i dont want the gnome crap
[05:17] <shane-laptop> Dr_Willis: I seem to be hitting a wall with any medibuntu repos, I added it with this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu  the command line, and keep getting errors
[05:17] <tangentcollision> I need to run my ISO like it's an auto-run, it must install windows to make my computer more fun. I'm on a live CD so burning isn't really good, and if you ask about my friends I'm in the middle of the hood.
[05:17] <coz_> abhijit,   none at this point... I have been looking  but havent found one I really like
[05:17] <abhijit> coz_, ok
[05:17] <blackretina> Movie Player == Totem Player == MPlayer?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  you mean you want to install windows to a hard drive from an ISO file?
[05:18] <shane-laptop> Dr_Willis: not errors adding it, but errors trying to install any packages from them.
[05:18] <coz_> blackretina,  ok open mplayer and right click the main window and go to preferences
[05:18] <tangentcollision> Dr_Willis: correct
[05:18] <tangentcollision> I know I can do it in windows, but that's because it's an EXE
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> shane-laptop:  you did sudo apt-get update, after adding it? then sudo apt-get upgrade?
[05:18] <abhijit> !windows | tangentcollision
[05:18] <tangentcollision> not sure if wine will work for it because of the registry
[05:19] <tangentcollision> abhijit: good christ, read a little more
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  You might be able to do it in virtualbox.. or some how put it on a bootable usb drive (that would be better then vbox)
[05:19] <shane-laptop> Dr_Willis: yep,  ok, I take that back, it is working now, must have been down???  that was just odd, working now thanks.
[05:19] <tangentcollision> hmm
[05:19] <abhijit> tangentcollision, ok sorry
[05:19] <coz_> blackretina,  then click the  "Codecs & demuxer"   tab  and under video codec family choose  "FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family"  and under  Audio codec family  choose "MPEG layer-2, layer-3"
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  theres also want to take a vbox hd and 'put' it on a real hard drive. (never done that either)
[05:19] <tangentcollision> Dr_Willis: thanks, that sounds like an exelent plan, I will try the VBox for now and good bye my good man
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Good Luck. You will Need it. :)
[05:20] <tangentcollision> *crowbar* got it
[05:21] <SuperMiguel> is there a ubuntu network install that includes wireless drivers?? or can i use the full install with out install gnome??
[05:21] <shaw1337> Hi i want to use my tata photon plus on Ubuntu 10.04 , how to configure it ? Mobile Broadband connection  is not working by default ? how to configure it ?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  with many wireless cards - you have to install drivers from the internet for legal reasons. so it depends on teh wireless card
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  what desktop are you wanting to use if not gnome?
[05:22] <SuperMiguel> Dr_Willis, openbox
[05:22] <shane-laptop> Dr_Willis: well, vlc, still laughs at it, but mplayer works, thanks a bundle!!!
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  you may want to try lubuntu then. I belive it uses Openbox.
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  there used to be Crunchbang (but thats not supported here, and i dont knwo if it still exists)
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  they may or may not come with the proper wireless drivers also.
[05:23] <bazhang> lubuntu-desktop SuperMiguel
[05:23] <bazhang> lxde and openbox
[05:23] <well_laid_lawn> crunchbang moved to debian and is still going strong
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> personally id jsut install ubuntu, then install openbox.. and be done with it. :)
[05:24] <hiexpo> !crunchbang
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> so many variants for so few good reasons.. :)
[05:25] <hiexpo> true
[05:25] <spinningcompass> It's a variation of the Peter Principle. Dilute the talent until each distro is mediocre.
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> I have to wonder for how much longer Ubuntu will manage to squeeze into a 700mb cd.. :)
[05:26] <hiexpo> like bt not mmuch
[05:27] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: You can also boot the Ubuntu LiveCD with an option to copy the entire contents of the CD into RAM, allowing you to eject the CD (and use the drive to burn the iso).
[05:27] <miststlkr> jordan_U:   orly??  news to me.
[05:27] <maco> Jordan_U: thats "toram"
[05:27] <SuperMiguel> Dr_Willis, u use debian or ubuntu?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> the toram option is new in 10.04 i recall
[05:27] <tangentcollision> hmm
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  i use ubuntu. i dont see much point in me using Debian
[05:28] <tangentcollision> sounds like a good idea Jordan_U, only problem is I don't have...a blank disc
[05:28] <tangentcollision> or a soul
[05:28] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: Newly working, the code for it has existed for a while now (just broken:)
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. this installer.exe in wine.. decided to default to french.. :()
[05:28] <tangentcollision> not important though >.>
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> Jordan_U:  yep. common feature in many other disrtos/live cd's
[05:28] <SuperMiguel> Dr_Willis, gnome?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  for the most part yes
[05:29] <miststlkr> DR_Willis:   interresting.  What I ended u doing was LinuxLive USB Creator to convert a USB stick into a persistent install and working from there.
[05:29] <hiexpo> i don't see ant reason for 5 gigs either < or
[05:29] <miststlkr> Dr:Willis:  I fact, my netbook boots 10.04 off of an SD card at the moment
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> miststlkr:  with  the size of usb sticks these days. I find my self doing normal installs to flash drives. heh.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> My AAO cant boot from the sd card. :(
[05:30] <miststlkr> Dr_Willis.  Odd. I have an AAO250 and it works fine
[05:30] <tangentcollision> uh
[05:30] <tangentcollision> acer?
[05:30] <tangentcollision> good god, I am in hell
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> I got an older AAO.  one of the first batches out
[05:30] <miststlkr> Dr_Willis:  ah.
[05:30] <tangentcollision> I have an eeepc 700
[05:30] <tangentcollision> OG son!
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> Grandson how has the AA0. For now.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> 'the portable spongebob video player' :)
[05:31] <tangentcollision> so, I figure I will use my PSP (4GB) for the flash drive
[05:31] <tangentcollision> I'll see if I can make do with that
[05:32] <tangentcollision> what should I do to make this IS...you know what? google is there for a reason
[05:32] <tangentcollision> bbs
[05:32] <miststlkr> meh, I have the AAO and 90% of the time it just runs rbreader while I'm on the train commuting, the rest is rythmbox at work for the most part.  works like a charm for what I use it for.
[05:32] <hiexpo> i find it easier to build deb packages and update them
[05:33] <miststlkr> tangentcollision:  yeah.. sorry... I just hit you with a tangent there I guess :-P   sorry to derail your plea for help...
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  huh? what are you trying to do exactly?
[05:33] <hiexpo> and ubuntu does it for you also on repo packages
[05:34] <veebull> anybody know what happened to the 9-part intro to quickly?  I can't seem to connect to the site where it is supposed to be hosted, either from home or work.
[05:34] <veebull> did it get archived anywhere else?
[05:34] <ryaxnb> hey guys
[05:35] <bazhang> veebull, ubuntu quickly?
[05:35] <veebull> yessir
[05:35] <bazhang> veebull, could you specify a bit what it is?
[05:36] <veebull> Ahhh... supposed to be a rapid-application development tool for creating simple GUI apps using python, glade and couchdb
[05:36] <abhijit> hey is that the same quickly tought in user days?
[05:37] <veebull> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly
[05:37] <Flannel> bazhang: Quickly is that framework for python development that Jono was stumping for for a while
[05:37] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly
[05:37] <bazhang> whoops
[05:37] <bazhang> Flannel, thanks
[05:37] <blackretina> coz, I don't see any Video & Codecs Demuxer tab under Gnome MPlayer Configuration.
[05:38] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=972037 veebull that help?
[05:38] <Flannel> veebull: It does look like that 9 part intro is down at the moment.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly#Other%20Resources has some other links that may help
[05:39] <veebull> someone over in #quickly perked up and just informed me that the site has been down for a week or so.
[05:39] <veebull> figures, right when I get curious... ;)
[05:39] <hiexpo> kinda like getdeb
[05:40] <veebull> I've looked at most of the other resources there, and from the Quickly sourceforge site
[05:41] <veebull> bazhang, Thats something else entirely... but thanks
[05:41] <bazhang> veebull, yep offline as Flannel said
[05:41] <itsux2bu>   [23:50] <Dr_Willis> itsux2bu:  rc.local perhaps.  but that will be for all users i imagine.   <<--  thanks.. that worked.. /etc/rc.local is global
[05:42] <hiexpo> < is it just a repo ?
[05:42] <bazhang> hiexpo, no
[05:42] <hiexpo> distro
[05:42] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly hiexpo
[05:42] <moofknock> Hello
[05:43] <moofknock> how y'all doing?
[05:44] <hiexpo> bazhang,  does not explain what it is just how to get it is all
[05:45] <Flannel> hiexpo: It's a GUI framework for 'rapid development' of python apps (and it helps you put them into your PPA as well)
[05:45] <hiexpo> Flannel,  oh ok
[05:46] <hiexpo> so it's a python gui kool
[05:49] <moofknock> Hope I'm not interrupting. I'm a first time Ubuntu user and don't know much of linux. I installed this out of curiosity on my laptop and I'm liking it so far :) But how do I make a Webcam work and also the latptop's internal mic?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> moofknock: install 'cheese' and run cheese and see if webcam works.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> !manual | moofknock
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> No idea on the internal mic. :) Mine worked automcatically
[05:50] <tangentcollision> lol
[05:50] <moofknock> Awesome :)
[05:50] <tangentcollision> cheese is a fun little application
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> many webcams also have a built in mic.
[05:51] <moofknock> Well the one on the cam seems to be working ok
[05:52] <pietime> how do you install openvz
[05:53] <moofknock> is "cheese" an aplication that you can add with the Ubuntu Software Center?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> !info openvz
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> moofknock:  sudo apt-get install cheese, or use the software center
[05:53] <miststlkr> while we are sort of on the subject.  I'd like to somehow set it up so that the speakers [plugged into the motherboard backplate] are disabled when I plug headphones into the case's front IO ports... Assuming I'm missing something stupidly obvious here, pointer?
[05:53] <moofknock> found it :)
[05:55] <moofknock> AHA it works!!!!
[05:56] <pietime> whoa why is #ubuntu so small?
[05:57] <miststlkr> just got split
[05:57] <miststlkr> nice timing :-P
[05:59] <Fudge> registered users only due to spammers pietime
[06:01] <i0nic> Anyone have experience with getting a belkin model: F7D2101 v1 working under ubuntu? I am currently running 10.04.. lsusb shows the device is recognized but iwconfig is not able to scan on it. Am I missing a major step here?
[06:02] <Fudge> why are my windows7 partitions listed in /dev but gparted cant seem them?
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: does: sudo blkid ,show them too?
[06:02] <pietime> how do you install openvz
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> !info openvz
[06:03] <i0nic> Fudge, whats the output of fdisk -l -u ?
[06:03] <CR0W> Hello, how to block with iptables incoming connections?
[06:03] <CR0W> I mean, connections initiated from outside.
[06:04] <Fudge> yes but it says partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundry
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> pietime: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVZ
[06:04] <pietime> thank you
[06:04] <SwedeMike> CR0W: CR0W https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[06:05] <hiexpo> i don'tuse iptables but maybe check man iptables
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: not so good as far as I know, although my lappy does the same.
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: i'd look online to see if it'll cause issues. Maybe it's related to the gparted thing...
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> pietime: all I did was websearch dude: ubuntu openvz ,and poof, it appeared
[06:06] <Fudge> http://pastebin.com/SyMxTy4U
[06:06] <Fudge> i0nic  there u go mate
[06:07] <pietime> woooowww
[06:07] <wowoto> hi all，where is the big-green-leave photo of the gnome which shows when we loginto the Desktop
[06:08] <CR0W> SwedeMike thanks
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> wowoto: perhaps in  /usr/share/backgrounds/
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: hmm, no linux partitions, is Ubuntu on a seperate disk?
[06:08] <wowoto> Dr_Willis, let me see
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> wowoto: perhaps in  /usr/share/images/
[06:08] <pietime> i like #ubuntu like this
[06:08] <Fudge> ActionParsnip  that is the problem, im trying to install it
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: ahh, and resize partitions I'm guessing?
[06:09] <Fudge> but gparted only sees the 250big drive with no partitions, and i dont want to createa  new parttion table blowing away windows
[06:09] <wowoto> Dr_Willis, no。。 i dont find it
[06:09] <Fudge> was my hope to resize the ntfs parts yeah ActionParsnip
[06:09] <i0nic> Fudge, so /dev/sda2 /dev/sda3 are showing like you said, have you tried mounting them?
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: win7 can resize it's own partitions. I suggest you use that. Make sure your backs are sufficiently recent before all this
[06:09] <Fudge> not as yet havnt tried
[06:10] <i0nic> Fudge,  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1886.html
[06:10] <sacarlson> I'm having problems with portablelinux at the install grub loader point.  it stops and gives me grub-setup: error: if you really want blocklists, use --force.  any one have portablelinux working to make bootable usb flash disk?
[06:10] <Fudge> how can a file system resize itself when mounted?
[06:10] <i0nic> oh I didn't see how you were trying to resize
[06:10] <i0nic> I am not sure on that.
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> i0nic: ask microsoft
[06:11] <SwedeMike> Fudge: it doesn't resize itself really.
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> i0nic: vista has it too
[06:11] <sacarlson> fudge: I don't know how but virtualbox does it that way, resize mounted disk as needed.
[06:11] <miststlkr>  I'd like to set my system up so that the speakers [plugged into the motherboard backplate] are disabled when I plug headphones into the case's front IO ports... Assuming I'm missing something stupidly obvious here, pointer?
[06:11] <Fudge> if it were virtual yeah
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> i0nic: Fudge http://www.nirmaltv.com/2009/05/12/how-to-resize-disk-partition-in-windows-7/
[06:12] <moofknock> Hey thanks for ythe help, the webcam works wonderfully :)
[06:12] <moofknock> See you all later if I find another problem
[06:12] <moofknock> :)
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> miststlkr: this happens with laptops too. I've heard this a bit but there are fixes
[06:16] <miststlkr> I figured there must be a way to fix it... I'm just too new to linux to know it I guess
[06:16] <miststlkr> I'll keep poking around
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> miststlkr: try: ubuntu headphones don't mute speakers
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> miststlkr: i'd help too but my battery is dying
[06:18] <miststlkr> ActiveParsnip:  it's all good.  I just thought that since it was a pretty active room at the moment I'd throw it out there.  I just installed tonight so I have plenty of other things to keep me occupied right now :-P
[06:23] <jellow> how can ic hange usb from /dev/mmcblk0p1 to /dev/sdb or something similar
[06:24] <psycho_oreos> udev?
[06:25] <zulgaban> hi
[06:25] <jellow> psycho_oreos: that a file i need to edit ?
[06:25] <tangentcollision> hey again
[06:25] <psycho_oreos> jellow, yes there should be a conf file for it, and you may need to restart udev for changes to take affect
[06:25] <tangentcollision> I'm getting a stupid error >:(
[06:26] <tangentcollision> that is all for now, thanks for playing
[06:26] <shro0ms> how can i check the size of a usb drive through terminal?
[06:26] <tangentcollision> if only I had another harddrive
[06:26] <psycho_oreos> shro0ms, if its mounted you can check via df -h
[06:26] <tangentcollision> I would totally install some sort of distrobution
[06:26] <jellow> psycho_oreos: so /dev/blah is given by the host and not predefined on the usb?
[06:27] <shro0ms> psycho_oreos, sweet thanks
[06:27] <psycho_oreos> jellow, its not the usb that defines the type of device it is, its the host that chooses to name those devices
[06:27] <psycho_oreos> shro0ms, no worries
[06:28] <tangentcollision> I wish there were an easy tutorial on how to make a windows boot disc on a USB drive from linux
[06:28] <tangentcollision> boy, that wasn't specific
[06:29] <psycho_oreos> and that was offtopic
[06:29] <Visine> I like how I have vmware wkst running taking up 80% of my resources and ubuntu is still running like a champ
[06:29] <tangentcollision> not really
[06:29] <Visine> how have I been on windows all this time
[06:29] <dsimon> is there a way to check to make sure that files installed from debs on my system haven't been corrupted?
[06:29] <dsimon> i think my filesystem's gotten a bit messed up, and i want to make sure all my /usr files are okay
[06:29] <tangentcollision> I am on ubuntu live and I'm trying to make this work, therefore...best place to be is? *drumroll* the distrobution channel!
[06:29] <psycho_oreos> dsimon, hard to tell imo
[06:30] <tangentcollision> distribution*
[06:30] <psycho_oreos> tangentcollision, you were asking about how to make a windows boot disc on USB drive no?
[06:30] <dsimon> psycho_oreos, there's no list of md5sums or something like that?
[06:30] <tangentcollision> from ubuntu
[06:30] <dsimon> hm
[06:30] <tangentcollision> seeing as that's all I have for tools
[06:30] <psycho_oreos> tangentcollision, yeah which is offtopic, there's ##windows for that
[06:31] <tangentcollision> okay, I'll ask it in windows, they'll tell me to come here because it's from ubuntu
[06:31] <tangentcollision> here I am again
[06:32] <dsimon> oh, man, i'm glad i thought of the word "md5sums", it led me to this neat tool: http://arthurdejong.org/recovery.html
[06:32] <psycho_oreos> dsimon, not that I'm aware of no, the individual packages can be checked to see if they have been installed properly, but any further modifications that are different to the original files from deb would not be visible
[06:32] <nIRV> greetings; quick question: how to we set a startup script to launch a program under a user that is not root (i.e. I'm setting up sphinxsearch app and it won't work nicely with apache unless it's launched under the www-data user)
[06:32] <rww> nIRV: alright, try now :)
[06:32] <rww> there you go
[06:32] <sacarlson> tangentcollision: I can't even get ubuntu to install a persistant boot of itself let alone windows.  I'm about to try the window version that might work.
[06:32] <nIRV> rww, thanks
[06:32] <dsimon> er, that page isn't very specific
[06:32] <dsimon> the tool i'm talking about is called debsums
[06:32] <jellow> im installing ubuntu but the installer will not pick up the sd card (ext3) but my desktop ubuntu picks it fine
[06:33] <psycho_oreos> jellow, you're installing it onto some cellular/mobile phone device?
[06:34] <jellow> psycho_oreos: no laptop eeepc mmc.sd card
[06:34] <psycho_oreos> jellow, why not get something like MMC/SD to USB or better yet a flash drive?
[06:35] <sacarlson> jellow: I have an eeepc with ubuntu or derivitive (easypeasy) on it but never tried install on sd card.
[06:35] <shro0ms> is there a counterpart to the eject command?
[06:36] <tangentcollision> umount
[06:36] <dsimon> shro0ms, you mean to pull the tray in?
[06:36] <dsimon> i think eject has an option for that
[06:36] <tangentcollision> sudo umount /dev/blah
[06:36] <dsimon> $ man eject
[06:36] <rww> eject -t
[06:36] <jellow> psycho_oreos: My sd card is 8 GB , the internal usb is only 4 gb. I rather use the sd card
[06:36] <shro0ms> rww, yeah thats it, thanks
[06:37] <sacarlson> jellow: you can mount your /home on the 8GB.  4GB should be more than enuf for just applications
[06:37] <psycho_oreos> jellow, no what I meant is why don't you get an adapter to convert that SD to USB? plus ubuntu doesn't need 4GB to install unless you're planning to make a persistent setup on the USB drive itself
[06:38] <tangentcollision> it seems like there's all these tutorials on windows to ubuntu copies, but not the other way around, how obnoxious
[06:38] <sacarlson> jellow: I'm working on setup of a persistent ubuntu setup with only 2GB even that's enuf.
[06:38] <jellow> sacarlson: I had that setup before but ran out of space and then tried to move /usr and failed :(
[06:39] <sacarlson> jellow: I wouldn't wait to run out of space before I setup my /home on the sd card
[06:39] <tangentcollision> jellow: when you're installing, you can set custom mount points, make sure that /dev/sdc1 is set to /usr (replace sdc1 with whatever your SD card happens to be) and you are good
[06:40] <tangentcollision> because /usr is usually the biggest folder
[06:40] <sacarlson> jellow: I'm not sure I would want to move the /usr directory but I guess you could do that also,  never tried
[06:40] <tangentcollision> believe me, I've done it with archlinux
[06:41] <tacomaster> can someone help me with this no one in #rtorrent is talking. im getting an error of (rtorrent: Error in option file: ~/.rtorrent.rc:54: Command "execute_log" does not exist.
[06:41] <dsimon> tacomaster, okay, i've never used or even heard of this program, but let's give The Standard Debugging Method a shot
[06:42] <dsimon> 1. have you checked the rtorrent manual to make sure there is in fact such a command?
[06:42] <[sleepy]> sup
[06:42] <tacomaster>  /.rtorrent.rc is the config file
[06:43] <sacarlson> tacomaster: maybe create the file it wants then and make sure the privliges in that folder can be writen with the user running your torrent.
[06:43] <dsimon> tacomaster, right, i understand that
[06:43] <dsimon> tacomaster, did you write or alter that file yourself?
[06:43] <tacomaster> let me see
[06:43] <[sleepy]> if anyone has time can i get some help?
[06:43] <tangentcollision> !help
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> !ask | [sleepy]
[06:43] <dsimon> [sleepy], yes, but you only get one question and you just used it :-)
[06:44] <i2c> does anyone here know any java?
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> i2c: try asking in #java
[06:44] <[sleepy]> lol
[06:44] <tangentcollision> coffee...want coffee
[06:44] <tangentcollision> wait, no...screw coffee
[06:44] <dsimon> sounds painful
[06:44] <sacarlson> i2c:  very little like as much as a pimple on my face that small.
[06:45] <rww> #ubuntu-offtopic likes coffee
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> tangentcollision: I just had coffee, waiting for it to kick in before work
[06:45]  * jellow forgot to unlock his sd card 
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> [sleepy]: wassup?
[06:45] <[sleepy]> nm i got it
[06:45] <jellow> thats why it was not picked up by installer
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Cool :)
[06:45] <tacomaster> omg i love you guys
[06:46] <[sleepy]> thanks though ill be in here more on i insall ubuntu
[06:46] <sacarlson> jellow: s**t happens
[06:46] <tacomaster> the stuff i should have seen i didnt like a dummy
[06:46] <tacomaster> but yall did
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> [sleepy]: s'why the channel exists ;)
[06:46] <tacomaster> all works now
[06:46] <[sleepy]> yup
[06:46] <[sleepy]> see ya
[06:47] <dsimon> tacomaster, yep, that's why pair programming works so well: we all have our blind spots, but the union of a group's blind spots is usually very small
[06:47] <dsimon> er, intersection
[06:49] <sacarlson> maybe since I can't create a persistant usb boot flash I should just try make an install usb flash boot.  do those work?  if so witch method?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> sacarlson:  the 2 are bascally the same. theres just a save file on the flash drive with the install
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: if you have a windows pc, pendrivelinux has an app which can put any iso on usb, it can even download and MD5 test it for you :)
[06:51] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: well then I might as well not try I used portablelinux that failed and also the manual method shown in ubuntu both fail.
[06:51] <needhelp1> I have an issue, when i boot im not getting to see my grub menu. I was before
[06:51] <needhelp1> im using 10.04
[06:51] <dsimon> needhelp1, what do you see now instead of the grub menu?
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: hold shift at boot
[06:51] <dsimon> oh, right, that's probably it
[06:52] <needhelp1> nothing, it loads directly into the ubuntu login page, i have tried holding shift with no success
[06:52] <needhelp1> im going to try it again just to be sure
[06:52] <needhelp1> i'll be right back
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: you can now boot as you wish. You can edit /etc/default/grub to change the menu showing etc
[06:52] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: I saw that and portablelinux looked to do the same in linux but failed.  I have windows in virtualbox so maybe I can do it from there.  I don't have a dual boot system anymore.
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: me neither, don't even virtualize :)
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> sacarlson:  ive used unetbootin, grub2 to boot an iso file. or some of the other tools at pendrivelinux web site. - most work  i HAVE had some pc's be quirky and not like some flashdrive/setups that Do work on other pc's... Mainly its older pc's with the issues.,
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: there's usb-creator-gtk which can make bootable usb sticks / sd cards
[06:53] <hiexpo> sup ActionParsnip  how are you
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: really tired, you?
[06:54] <hiexpo> same
[06:54] <hiexpo> bout to pass out
[06:54] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: well I may have to if that's all we have that does it.  I think I might try just the install boot usb method first.  But I guess a flash has a limited number of writes so I'll burn it out before I ever get it to work.
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: its not a really short life. Use ext2 and it will prolong it some
[06:55]  * hiexpo hiexpo passes out with lips on desk 
[06:55] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: yes usb-creator that's what I'll try first
[06:55] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: ok I'll do that
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: I've done 3x12 hour shifts. 1 more today and I'm off for 4 days :)
[06:56] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: and we are sure that usb-creator-gtk works with ubuntu 10.04 version?  speak now or forever hold your peace
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: works great
[06:57] <needhelp1> ok holding shift did get me to my grub menu, though my boot is still extremely slow. I've noticed a lag in my boot for the last week. Not sure what could be causing this.
[06:57] <hiexpo> i like those kinda shifts though i use to do 4 10's 20 years ago had fri sa & sun off
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> If I drop off now my. Battery is dead. I'm not being ignorant
[06:57] <needhelp1> Also, how can i get my grub  menu to show by default
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> needhelp1:  edit the /etc/default/grub
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: not bad, least you always got a weekend. My week is 8 days long so it moves
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> needhelp1:  the grub2 wiki pages discuss all the settings for it. and theres a Great forum thread on it also
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[06:58] <hiexpo> ouch
[06:58] <rww> ActionParsnip, hiexpo: Can you move offtopic discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM, please?
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> rww: understood
[06:58] <rww> thanks
[06:59] <hiexpo> sorry
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> Hopefully today will be dead and I can use the webchat to help in here :)
[07:01] <tangentcollision> why doesn't dd let me copy an iso directly to a USB drive argh
[07:01] <dzup> i need to play a .mov file, mplayer dosnt either vlc or gplayer, any sugg?
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> tangentcollision: you can do that with the netbook remix, just not the iso
[07:01] <koala_man> If you plug in a USB headset (or use a bluetooth one), does audio automatically switch over?
[07:02] <tangentcollision> ActionParsnip: it's not for an ubuntu or linux iso
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> dzup: do you have w32codecs installed (or w64codecs for 64bit)
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> tangentcollision: then usb-creator-gtk will let you transfer it
[07:02] <needhelp1> Dr_Willis, how do i open the grub file from terminal as root to edit
[07:03] <tangentcollision> where do I get that, ActionParsnip
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> tangentcollision: I believe it has options for nonLinux OSes
[07:03] <dzup> ActionParsnip: w32codecs is already the newest version.
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> tangentcollision: repos - use apt-get or software-centre
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> needhelp1:  sudo EDITOR /path/to/file
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> dzup: and you have ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[07:04] <dzup> ActionParsnip: i believe no mov can be play here.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> dzup:  run a video player from terminal (vlc whatever.mov) and look for any error essages
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> dzup: it can, you just need codecs
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> !codecs
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> dzup:  try to determine what codec tht thing is using
[07:04] <rebirth> i'm having trouble getting phun to run
[07:04] <Gimped> needhelp1: sudo gedit /etc/grub/[filename]
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> rebirth:  i ran that here the other day.  :) I dont recall any issues with it.
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> !info phun
[07:05] <Gimped> needhelp1: sudo gedit /boot/grub/[filename] - correction sorry
[07:05] <robertzaccour> I accidently deleted panel icons that aren't in the add to panel selection. how do i get them back?
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Gimped: gksudo for gedit dude
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> I think i got phun from the getdeb or play deb repos
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel | robertzaccour
[07:05] <needhelp1> thanks
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  you refering to the mail and volume icons?
[07:05] <Gimped> ActionParsnip: my mistake =P i dont use sudo =/
[07:06] <needhelp1> the grub_default = 0 ... is this the default loading grub menu item or to default load grub menu?
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> needhelp1:  loads first item by default.
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> Gimped: you must if you want to use admin tasks.
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> needhelp1:  grub starts counting at 0 in many cases
[07:06] <needhelp1> hum... how do i enable the grub menu to load and show by default .. without having to hold down shift
[07:06] <Gimped> needhelp1: you need to look for a menu.lst file
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> needhelp1:  you change one line in /etc/default/grub if using grub2
[07:07] <rebirth> Dr_Willis: when i run file phun nothing happens
[07:07] <needhelp1> i thought grub2 has no menu.lst
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> needhelp1:  menu.lst is the Old grub..
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: there's an option in /etc/default/grub for grub2
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[07:07] <Gimped> ActionParsnip: my distro doesnt have sudo installed by default, so i never got into habit of using sudo; i just use su
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> good grub2 guide --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[07:08] <[sleepy]> sup again
[07:08] <maquis> i want to upgrade a package to the version that is available in maverick.  is it possible to do that for just one package?
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Gimped: I see, in ubuntu you can use: sudo -i ,for the same effect
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | maquis
[07:08] <Gimped> ActionParsnip: thanks, noted
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> maquis: search the ppas
[07:08] <rww> maquis: it depends on the package and its dependencies
[07:09] <maquis> rww: it's hplip
[07:09] <maquis> i'll search and see what i can find...
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> maquis: you can install the latest hplip using the script on the hplip site
[07:09] <maquis> ActionParsnip: the .run?
[07:09] <dzup> ActionParsnip: ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version.
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> maquis: indeed
[07:09] <rww> ubottu: pinning | maquis
[07:09] <maquis> ok... i'll just do that, then.
[07:09] <maquis> ActionParsnip: thanks a ton
[07:10] <maquis> rww: thanks for that too
[07:10] <rww> maquis: you'd use the process ubottu just detailed. I note that pinning from development releases isn't officially supported.
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> maquis: chmod +x it then run it as user in terminal (not sudo)
[07:10] <rww> maquis: and also that hplip seems to depend on a lot, so it may be a headache.
[07:10] <maquis> mk
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> dzup: when I get to work I'll find a how to, gnome-mplayer + vlc + restricted extras usually plays anything except realplayer (and who uses that!)
[07:11] <needhelp1> brb
[07:11] <Gimped> ActionParsnip: you can setup mplayer to play rm files =)
[07:12] <maquis> ActionParsnip: out of curiosity, why not with sudo?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> rww: it can need a few -dev packages but they are simple to install and it tells you what is needed
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> maquis: not sure, the script will say you are running it wrong if you do
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Gimped: true, just needs codecs ;)
[07:13] <rww> ActionParsnip: we're talking about different processes. clobbering the package manager with HP's scripts is a little too far for my tastes.
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> maquis: you will be asked for your pass when its needed
[07:13] <needhelp1> grub menu fixed, i still have a 25-30 second delay from grub to login window.. usually this is around 5-7 seconds. Im not sure why this has been affected or where to start to look
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> from hitting enter at gryb to the GDM login.. 20-30 sec is good..
[07:14] <dsimon> needhelp1, have you installed a lot of packages recently?
[07:14] <dsimon> maybe a whole bunch of daemons are starting now that didn't used to
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> i would be amazed at grub -> login in 5 sec.
[07:14] <eagles0513875> hey guys whats the channel for ubuntu x discussion
[07:14]  * eagles0513875 waves to Dr_Willis
[07:15] <needhelp1> dsimon, none, the only thing i have done different is I used a network auditing live cd on this pc. Only used it as a live cd though, no installation
[07:15] <cozziemoto> #ubuntu-x
[07:15] <[sleepy]> damn i just booted linux in a vm to test it and im loving it so far
[07:15] <Gimped> [sleepy]: welcome to linux =)
[07:15] <cozziemoto> [sleepy],  you have been hooked  :)
[07:15] <[sleepy]> yes
[07:15] <[sleepy]> im planning to start developing android with it
[07:16] <dsimon> needhelp1, ah, is it booting to the CD?
[07:16] <[sleepy]> or at least try too lol
[07:16] <[sleepy]> yes for noe
[07:16] <eagles0513875> cozziemoto: thanks
[07:16] <cozziemoto> :)
[07:16] <[sleepy]> *now
[07:16] <needhelp1> ubuntu is installed to the hard drive.. oh wait.. i may of changed my boot loader to check the cd drive first
[07:16] <needhelp1> i bet thats it.. derr.. thanks dsimon
[07:16] <dsimon> heh, np
[07:16] <needhelp1> lol
[07:16] <dsimon> i'm also impressed by the 5sec load time
[07:16] <dsimon> wish my machine did that
[07:17] <needhelp1> its around 5-7 seconds.. its great
[07:17] <cozziemoto> guys just to give you laugh... i accidently typed  sudo rm -rf /usr/bin nameoffile
[07:17] <[sleepy]> im in love with open source after using android lol
[07:17] <jen_h> good luck - ubuntu rocks, but eclipse is piggy on it
[07:17] <dsimon> cozziemoto, fun times eh?
[07:17] <needhelp1> and.. im using the walmart emachines d525 ... very inexpensive laptop...
[07:17] <[sleepy]> o ok
[07:17] <cozziemoto> dsimon,  reinstalling now :)
[07:17] <roccity_> dsimon, 5 sec load time? what are you running on?
[07:18] <dsimon> roccity_, ask needhelp1, mine takes a good 30sec
[07:18] <[sleepy]> ubuntu is running really slow since im using it from a cd :(
[07:18] <Gimped> cozziemoto: thats not as bad as "sudo rm -rf /usr/bin" =)
[07:18] <dsimon> unless you're asking to determine why mine is so slow
[07:18] <roccity_> needhelp1, what are you running on?
[07:18] <needhelp1> emachines d525
[07:18] <roccity_> dsimon, oops sorry
[07:18] <dsimon> Gimped, it is _exactly_ as bad
[07:18] <dsimon> what with the space
[07:18] <cozziemoto> Gimped,  well essentially that is what the command did  rm -rf /usr/bin  nameof file instead of   /usr/bin/nameoffile
[07:19] <rww> can we stop echoing problematic commands to the channel, please?
[07:19] <jen_h> ouch
[07:19] <iluminator101> how do downgrade a specific program using a apt to the previous version?
[07:19] <cozziemoto> dsimon,  glad you picked that up lol
[07:19] <roccity_> needhelp1, can I ask what you spent on your machine?
[07:19] <Gimped> cozziemoto: ah sorry thought was typo
[07:19] <[sleepy]> its a pain now since the screen is so small
[07:19] <rww> iluminator101: sudo apt-get install packagename=versionnumber
[07:19] <cozziemoto> Gimped,  yes it was an unfortunate type  in real time in terminal lol
[07:19] <cozziemoto> typo
[07:20] <Gimped> cozziemoto: you can restore that btw
[07:20] <cozziemoto> Gimped,  well I decided a clean install was inorder anyway
[07:20] <Gimped> cozziemoto: as long as its not deleted from root trash you can...
[07:20] <needhelp1> roccity_, around 350 after U.S. Tax's
[07:20] <needhelp1> they are like 299.99 USD at walmart now
[07:20] <cozziemoto> Gimped,  wouldnt boot anyway
[07:20] <`RadioMan> dont they still have wimpy power supplies
[07:20] <roccity_> needhelp1, wish we had machines like that in NZ I miss the States
[07:21] <Gimped> cozziemoto: terminal ftw? =P
[07:21] <needhelp1> anyone here use backtrack?
[07:21] <Gimped> needhelp1: yes
[07:21]  * [sleepy] is extremely happy chrome is avaible folinux
[07:21] <dsimon> Gimped, rm doesn't move things to trash, it blows them away
[07:21] <needhelp1> roccity_, dsimon  ? backtrack users?
[07:21] <xangua> !backtrack | needhelp1
[07:21] <cozziemoto> dsimon, tell me about it :)
[07:21] <xangua> [sleepy]: better use chromium :)
[07:21] <dsimon> actually, to be more specific
[07:21] <roccity_> needhelp1, no straight slack on my desktop
[07:22] <dsimon> it doesn't blow away the file's contents
[07:22] <dsimon> just the inode table entries
[07:22] <dsimon> which is good if you want to later recover the contents of a specific rm'd file
[07:22] <cozziemoto> dsimon,  ah interesting  mmm
[07:22] <roccity_> needhelp1, is it a issue with the desktop or a particular app?
[07:23] <Gimped> dsimon: yes
[07:23] <needhelp1> roccity_, ?
[07:23] <roccity_> needhelp1, what do you need with backtrack
[07:23] <needhelp1> oh nothing.. i have just been toying with it
[07:24] <needhelp1> all the "air" terminal commands :)
[07:24] <[sleepy]> is photoshop availible bor linux?
[07:24] <roccity_> needhelp1, have tried it but have a very budget laptop and can't use some of the apps
[07:24] <needhelp1> [sleepy], try gimp
[07:24] <cozziemoto> [sleepy],  no unless you install it via wine
[07:24] <[sleepy]> ok
[07:24] <jen_h> aliasing rm to rm -i might be a good idea in future
[07:24] <[sleepy]> because
[07:25] <[sleepy]> i theme for android and need something like that
[07:25] <jen_h> have you used the gimp?
[07:25] <cozziemoto> [sleepy],  if you are meaning photoshop cs5  i dont think wine supports that yet  i could be wrong however
[07:25] <[sleepy]> ok thankyou
[07:25] <needhelp1> [sleepy], gimp is great.. i prefer it over photoshop
[07:25] <[sleepy]> ok ill try it out
[07:25] <jen_h> love the gimp
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> my wallet perfers Gimp to Photoshop also
[07:26] <[sleepy]> lol
[07:26] <jen_h> advice that gimp + adb emulator + eclipse will give your comp a workout. but good fun ;)
[07:26] <dsimon> i'm convinced that there's only about 3 or 4 people who buy each release of photoshop
[07:26] <[sleepy]> yeah
[07:26] <needhelp1> im not crazy about using wine.. something about using applications specifically for windows/mac on linux erks me
[07:26] <cozziemoto> [sleepy],  if you are into graphics applications that you have used on windows there are great alternatives for linux
[07:26] <dsimon> that's why it has to be so expensive, because the cost is amortized over all the people who pirate it
[07:26] <jen_h> spend too much time futzing with dependencies with wine
[07:26] <dsimon> if photoshop could figure out which of those 3 or 4 people keep uploading it to bittorrent networks, they'd nip that problem in the bud :-)
[07:26] <jen_h> but there are some things that run nicely out of the box
[07:27] <jen_h> tried to get itunes running under wine, finally gave up
[07:27] <[sleepy]> how long will it take me to master linux? im not bad with computers
[07:27] <cozziemoto> [sleepy],  the more you work with it the more you get to know it
[07:27] <[sleepy]> ok
[07:27] <cozziemoto> [sleepy],  depends on how deeply involved you want to get
[07:27] <Gimped> [sleepy]: if you can write in DOS you should be pretty quick to pickup, its all same unix language
[07:27] <needhelp1> is #ubuntu down?
[07:28] <xangua> needhelp1: you are in #ubuntu ...
[07:28] <cozziemoto> lol
[07:28] <[sleepy]> so is it hard to partition my drive?
[07:28] <`RadioMan> [sleepy]-     try this,     http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/12068_3898906_4/50-Open-Source-Replacements-for-Really-Expensive-Software.htm
[07:28] <needhelp1> i was just pushed into unregged twice
[07:28] <rww> needhelp1: you need to be identified with nickserv to get to #ubuntu itself right now
[07:28] <needhelp1> i am reged lol
[07:28] <[sleepy]> RadioMan thanks
[07:28] <`RadioMan> k
[07:28] <cozziemoto> [sleepy],  if you are going toinstall onto hard drive... with live cd...there is a partioning  dialog that is easily understood
[07:28] <rww> needhelp1: not the first two times you tried joining, you weren't.
[07:29] <jen_h> [sleepy] you've probably already passed this point, but i always advise beginners to use wubi installer
[07:29] <[sleepy]> ok
[07:29] <cozziemoto> [sleepy], if you are going to install onto a separate hard drive then it is even simpler
[07:29] <needhelp1> rww, good to know, thanks for the info :)
[07:29] <[sleepy]> jen_h does it run at the same speed of a partitoned drive?
[07:29] <needhelp1> roccity_, have you ever used the karma tool
[07:29] <jen_h> not sure, i've run it on a bunch of machines with no issue
[07:29] <jen_h> it also retains your windows partition
[07:30] <[sleepy]> ok ill try that first
[07:30] <jen_h> so you can access anything on windows from linux pretty simply
[07:30] <needhelp1> jen_h, yes, very easy
[07:30] <jen_h> it's almost one-click, which blows my mind
[07:30] <needhelp1> [sleepy], you havent installed linux yet? are you on a live cd+
[07:30] <needhelp1> ?
[07:30] <roccity_> needhelp1, nah sorry bro
[07:30] <Jordan_U> jen_h: Things have come a long way in the past few years :)
[07:30] <Connor1> Anyone here use Kismet?
[07:31] <[sleepy]> yes virtual machine
[07:31] <needhelp1> con-man, i do
[07:31] <Connor1> Kismet will not run.
[07:31] <jen_h> Jordan_U: heck yeah. ;)
[07:31] <needhelp1> will not load or will not scan?
[07:31] <Connor1> hold on
[07:31] <needhelp1> [sleepy], what version of windows you using?
[07:31] <Connor1> http://fpaste.org/lhop/
[07:32] <Connor1> needhelp1 look there.
[07:32] <[sleepy]> im on a mac now but is going to install on windows
[07:32] <needhelp1> will kismet load?
[07:32] <Connor1> needhelp1 nope
[07:32] <Connor1> That's what happens when I type kismet
[07:33] <jen_h> totally give wubi a try; you're going to be spending enough time cursing @ eclipse, might as well save time where you can :)
[07:33] <Connor1> Wubi is garbage
[07:33] <[sleepy]> why?
[07:33] <Connor1> Because it's terrible
[07:33] <jen_h> yeah, but for a beginner that just wants to get a dev environment up and running, what's the problem?
[07:33] <needhelp1> Connor1, are you using fedora?
[07:33] <Connor1> Virtualmachine
[07:33] <Connor1> needhelp1 Ubuntu 10
[07:33] <Connor1> Virtual machine*
[07:33] <Connor1> jen_h partioning is less headaches :/
[07:34] <needhelp1> your using a virtual machine for ubuntu ? Connor1
[07:34] <jen_h> it's not a vm
[07:34] <Gimped> Connor1: is this your first time running kismet on that machine?
[07:34] <Connor1> needhelp1 it's on my laptop
[07:34] <jen_h> oh, he's running a vm
[07:34] <Connor1> Gimped yers.
[07:34] <Connor1> Yes8
[07:34] <Connor1> Yes*
[07:34] <Connor1> I haven't set it up
[07:34] <FloodBot3> Connor1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:34] <Connor1> jen_h this is my windows computer
[07:34] <Connor1> My laptop is on my lap.
[07:34] <Gimped> Connor1: you have to setup kismet first
[07:34] <Connor1> Gimped any ideas as to where kismet.conf is saved?
[07:34] <needhelp1> Connor1, you should download backtrack and use it as a live cd
[07:35] <Connor1> My wireless card isn't supported by it.
[07:35] <abhinav> Connor1: /etc/kismet
[07:35] <Connor1> Thank you
[07:35] <needhelp1> Connor1, have you tried bt4?
[07:35] <Connor1> Yes
[07:35] <jen_h> my mobile broadband doesn't work on bt4
[07:35]  * [sleepy] thinks he should stop his android dev career cuz theres too many great devs to compete with
[07:35] <needhelp1> that was fast [sleepy]  lol
[07:36] <Connor1> Okay Gimped I'm at the kismet.conf.
[07:36] <[sleepy]> yeah and i dint have the time
[07:36] <iluminator101> vlc goes black after a while?
[07:36] <[sleepy]>  i know alot of devs and will just make themes for there roms lol
[07:37] <dsimon> alternately you could try to develop something nobody else is working on
[07:37] <Gimped> Connor1: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1067390.html <<< see if that helps
[07:37] <dsimon> there are lots of great devs in the world, but ideaspace is even larger
[07:38] <needhelp1> just dont conjure up another programming language...
[07:38] <needhelp1> bleh
[07:39] <needhelp1> anyone go to defcon by chance ?
[07:39] <jen_h> yah
[07:40] <needhelp1> did they give out the android "app" ;) on cd... i saw it was released
[07:40] <needhelp1> just cant find it online
[07:40] <rww> ubottu: ot
[07:40] <Connor1> Thanks Gimped
[07:40] <jen_h> i never got the cd - someone put the cd online somewhere, though
[07:40] <Connor1> Reading now
[07:41] <jen_h> googlable, careful of links :D
[07:41] <needhelp1> lol
[07:41] <jen_h> http://contagiodump.blogspot.com/2010/08/trojan-sms-for-android-courtesy-of.html
[07:41] <needhelp1> you got a droid?
[07:41] <[sleepy]> i think im going to install gentoo
[07:41] <jen_h> <note that these are malware samples; don't just d/l>
[07:41] <[sleepy]> yes
[07:42] <[sleepy]> droid !
[07:42] <needhelp1> rooted?
[07:42] <[sleepy]> 1
[07:42] <[sleepy]> yes
[07:42] <FloodBot3> [sleepy]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:42] <rww> needhelp1, jen_h, [sleepy]: Can you move the offtopic discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, please?
[07:42] <[sleepy]> sorry bot
[07:42] <[sleepy]> ok
[07:43] <nIRV> anyone has a minute to guide me through setting up a startup script to launch application under a specific user (i.e. not root)
[07:43] <[sleepy]> is it hard to root linux?
[07:44] <jen_h> su -c "/path/to/command $options" user
[07:44] <jen_h> you typically start with root, but that will run as user; do ps -efwww |grep user to verify
[07:45] <nIRV> k
[07:45] <jen_h> check out the scripts that exist in /etc/init.d for samples
[07:45] <fancybit> hello
[07:46] <nIRV> jen_h, did have a look at this but had failed to catch the su -c
[07:46] <fancybit> where should I ask some question about apache? #apache seems not the correct channel
[07:46] <jen_h> try httpd
[07:46] <fancybit> 3q
[07:46] <jen_h> #httpd
[07:46] <nIRV> (was looking at apache2 as I'm trying to get sphinxsearch to launch at startup under www-data user, not root)
[07:48] <nIRV> jen, how would you do it using the start-stop-daemon?
[07:48] <glick> after installing phppgadmin where is the configuration file?
[07:48] <nIRV> start-stop-daemon --start --exec ${su -c "/blah/blah $opt" user} ?
[07:51] <jen_h> what version of apache2 are you running? should be set to run as www-data by default in most stock installs. www-data is set in apache2ctl, i believe
[07:53] <fourcolors> hey I want a battery health application for ubuntu is there one?
[07:53] <dsimon> battery health? as in measuring the change in maximum voltage?
[07:54] <kleef0rdz> gnome-power-manager perhaps?
[07:54] <fourcolors> like if you need a new battery or not
[07:54] <dsimon> fourcolors, you can get some useful information by right-clicking the battery icon and selecting "power history"
[07:55] <dsimon> for determining if you need a new battery, though, i'd just use your own judgement
[07:55] <rww> can't right-click battery icon in default 10.04
[07:55] <dsimon> ah, really?
[07:55] <rww> yeah, indicators don't have right-click
[07:55] <rww> you left-click and then click one of the options that comes up; i forget which
[07:55] <pietime> msg ubottu !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:55] <pietime> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:55] <pietime> thanks ubottu
[07:56] <pietime> :P
[07:56] <rww> !botsnack
[08:03] <fross> i, I had some slow wifi problems last night which i fixed with installig a perticulare driver. Today when i left the house i had a file downloading to my server at 1.5mbps now I got home and it was going at 1-5 kbps. i cant seem to figure out why i lost my speed again. any ideas?
[08:07] <abhinav_singh> is there any certification for ubuntu as readhat linux?
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. I seem to recall mention of that once..
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> !certify
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training/course-descriptions/certified-professional
[08:08] <pietime> !coffee
[08:08] <rww> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training
[08:08] <raiffa> unfortunately ubuntu certs are worthless
[08:08] <dsimon> which can be said of certs in general...
[08:08] <raiffa> rhce's are in demand
[08:09] <pietime> rhce?
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> I got a RHCE book once.. (bargin bin) i could allready answer/do 90% of the questions...
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> other 10% was on things i would never want :) heh.
[08:10] <pietime> isnt apache certification in demand?
[08:10] <pietime> dont know what im talking about really :)
[08:11] <fross> im working on the CEH cert right now
[08:11] <pietime> but i know that has to do with 65% of servers on the net
[08:11] <ectospasm> pietime: define "servers". Oh, you mean web servers...
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> it all boils down to resume padding :)
[08:12] <fross> yep
[08:12] <fross> thats what they are really there for
[08:13] <abhinav_singh> but i think doing any linux certification is not good....coz we have father of all linuxs and unix "Solaris"
[08:13] <dsimon> if the company you want to apply to really places that much value on having an RHCE or what-have-you... there's a good chance you don't really want to work there
[08:13] <pietime> why do you say that dsimon
[08:14] <ectospasm> abhinav_singh: Solaris is NOT the Father of UNIX
[08:14] <pietime> i think by father he means "BIG DADDY"
[08:14] <abhinav_singh> yup pietime: you are aright...you got me in right way
[08:15] <ectospasm> it may be the most advanced, but it's not open anymore
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> and in a few years. who knows where solaris may be...
[08:15] <abhinav_singh> ectospasm:yes because of oracle....they have also killed openSolaris development project
[08:15] <ectospasm> Oracle isn't killing it, but it's also not open.
[08:16] <abhinav_singh> ectospasm
[08:16] <ectospasm> ...which is essentially killing the OpenSolaris community
[08:16] <rww> !ot
[08:16] <ectospasm> yeah, I was thinking we were getting OT
[08:17] <ectospasm> But then again I haven't seen a support question since I joined this channel less than ten minutes ago (-;
[08:17] <fross> i, I had some slow wifi problems last night which i fixed with installig a perticulare driver. Today when i left the house i had a file downloading to my server at 1.5mbps now I got home and it was going at 1-5 kbps. i cant seem to figure out why i lost my speed again. any ideas?
[08:17] <fross> ^
[08:17] <rww> ectospasm: #ubuntu-offtopic isn't busy either, and is a better place for it ;P
[08:18] <dsimon> fross, i'd try and isolate the issue to make sure it's related to the driver
[08:18] <pietime> I'm having some problems with movie player and GNOME Mplayer hickuping and stopping play of music and video files
[08:18] <dsimon> i.e. while the download is still running, try power cycling the wireless AP
[08:18] <pietime> this is on Lubuntu
[08:18] <dsimon> and also your uplink modem, if you have access to it
[08:18] <pietime> it didnt happen on Ubuntu
[08:18] <ectospasm> rww: yes, but I didn't start it (-; OK, I'll shut up.
[08:19] <ectospasm> fross: where are you downloading the file from?
[08:19] <fross> a 100mb seedbox
[08:20] <pietime> what does Ubuntu have that Lubuntu doesnt that would cause media files to hicup while playing?
[08:20] <ectospasm> I don't know what that means
[08:21] <pietime> who me?
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  try vlc in both and see if its also affected
[08:21] <pietime> ok
[08:22] <ectospasm> fross: I don't know what "a 100mb seedbox" means
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if it could be  a hard drive splinnign down or some other service kicking in.. but its hard to tell
[08:22] <coz_> ok reinstalled and back as myself :)
[08:23] <fross> ectospasm: its a server on a 100mb connection. on my other computers here I can max out my downstream from it
[08:23] <ectospasm> fross: do you have other hosts on the WLAN that download from that OK?
[08:24] <fross> ectospasm: yes, the laptop i am on now just tested it and had 1.6mb down from it
[08:24] <ectospasm> fross: trying to isolate it from your wireless router/AP and your problem host
[08:25] <ectospasm> fross: have you killed any background processes which may be consuming bandwidth?  Check "ps -ef" or "netstat -altp" (both as root) for details
[08:25] <pietime> Dr_Willis, yes it's doing it with vlc as well
[08:26] <ectospasm> pietime: check top to be sure there's nothing consuming inordinate amounts of CPU and RAM
[08:26] <pietime> top?
[08:26] <ectospasm> pietime: top is a terminal application, should be installed by default.  "man top" for details
[08:28] <pietime> no nothings taking up a lot of memory
[08:28] <gary_inNYC> pietime: try using x11 (no xv) with your player
[08:28] <pietime> besides this is lubuntu
[08:28] <lboken> hi all just wondering  im reinstalling ubutun (10.04) and i have 2 hd in my pc i wondered how much should i give for the swap filesystem, and if it should be put only on the first hd or on the  2nd work as well or maybe even put some swap on both hd?
[08:28] <fross> great, ran update on my htpc and now my audio is no recognized
[08:28] <pietime> i checked top and system monitor
[08:29] <rww> lboken: 1) how much RAM do you have? 2) do you want to be able to hibernate to disk?
[08:29] <lboken> i have 2 meg of ram
[08:29] <lboken> i wan to use the pc as a server (so shouldnt much hebernate
[08:29] <rww> 2 GB, perhaps?
[08:29] <ectospasm> lboken: old rule of thumb was have swap be twice as large as RAM
[08:29] <lboken> ok
[08:30] <ectospasm> more swap wouldn't hurt
[08:30] <rww> I'd go with 2GB to 4GB, and put it all on the same disk; doesn't matter which one
[08:30] <pietime> ive never, ever, in years seen ubuntu use up 4 gigs of swap space
[08:30] <lboken> ok  thanks rww
[08:30] <well_laid_lawn> depends if you hibernate or not
[08:30] <ectospasm> pietime: given enough RAM, I've never seen it use *any*
[08:31] <pietime> what does Ubuntu have that Lubuntu doesnt that would cause media files to hicup while playing? It does it in movieplayer, GNOMEmplayer and VLC.
[08:32] <well_laid_lawn> I never hibernate but I set a swap partition of 512mb 'cause some apps seem to require it
[08:32] <akrill> anyone here good with building ubuntu-based EBS-backed AMIs?
[08:33] <pietime> can anyone tell me how to get my laptop's multimedia buttons working on VLC?
[08:35] <ectospasm> pietime: perhaps you should start those programs, in --verbose or --debug mode, and pastebin the results
[08:35] <dsimon> pietime, i'm also interested in what top says
[08:35] <dsimon> re: cpu usage
[08:36] <ectospasm> pietime: also note that top sorts by CPU usage, you'll need to hit '>' to sort by memory usage.  Hit '<' to move back
[08:36] <rottenese> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could direct me to where I could find an unsupported microdia webcam driver for ubuntu.
[08:39] <akrill> sigh.
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> rottenese:  its possible it has no support at all. Theres a small set of people that seem tobe responsible for all webcam drivers.
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> !webcam
[08:39] <akrill> anyway, anyone around with experience building ubuntu-based EBS-backed AMIs?
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> rottenese:  you may want to test out the 10.10 release tahts in testing to see if it works in there.
[08:39] <project2501a> good morning
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> rottenese:  what yave you done to try the webcam yet?
[08:40] <rww> akrill: #ubuntu-server might know more about it. Amazon cloud computing stuff (which I think that is?) doesn't tend to get much help here, it's too specialized.
[08:40] <project2501a> i am trying to install the 9.10 ATI catalyst drivers for Lucid, with much fail.
[08:40] <akrill> rww: okiedoke. thanks!
[08:40] <bobthemi1kman> I'm currently at my home (Win7). In order to connect to my research computer (ubuntu), I have to SSH into my university's supercomputer (linux) and then from there SSH into my research computer. Is there any easy way to transfer files through this SSH proxy?
[08:40] <project2501a> bobthemi1kman: yes
[08:41] <project2501a> man scp
[08:41] <project2501a> man sshfs
[08:41] <project2501a> man wincp
[08:41] <bobthemi1kman> scp can work through SSH proxies?
[08:41] <project2501a> man winscp
[08:41] <project2501a> yes
[08:41] <rww> project2501a: It won't work. Different versions of Ubuntu use different versions of xorg, and xorg drivers from one version can't be used with another.
[08:41] <bobthemi1kman> Okay, I'll go look into it.
[08:41] <project2501a> rww: what to do?
[08:41] <project2501a> bobthemi1kman: read the relevant chapter on "the definitive guide to ssh" by o'reilly and associates
[08:42] <rww> project2501a: I assume that 10.04's fglrx isn't an option due to hardware support or something?
[08:42] <project2501a> rww: i tried to. it doesn't give 3D acceleration.
[08:42] <probonono> I'm booting Ubuntu in a VirtualBox guest and need to reset forgotten passwords. After mashing the Esc key during bootup I end up at a console as root but despite the single disk partition showing as mounted r/w, any attempt to write to disk faults as being r/o. What do I need to do to correct it?
[08:42] <project2501a> probonono: man mount
[08:42] <project2501a> option remount
[08:43] <Tempus_> does anyone know a channel for programming
[08:43] <project2501a> Tempus_: which language?
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> Tempus_:  thats a broad topic. :) perhaps #programming
[08:43] <project2501a> #rtfm :>
[08:43] <rww> project2501a: AMD dropped support for a bunch of cards in the last few releases. Since fglrx is closed-source, we can't provide a fix for that. It sucks, but the basic answer is use the free drivers.
[08:43] <Tempus_> project2501a: im trying to learn and was hoping for a beginner room
[08:43] <project2501a> ....
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> Tempus_:  learn what language?
[08:44] <Tempus_> Dr_Willis: C or Java
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> If you cant decide on what programing language to learn first... well.. I would suggest Python.
[08:44] <project2501a> Tempus_: google "structure and implementation of computer programs". it is a free book by MIT opencourceware
[08:44] <probonono> project2501a, thanks, that worked. Any clue as to why the mount is listed as r/w by mount(1) if it isn't?
[08:45] <project2501a> so you will ream the manual first
[08:45] <project2501a> so you will read the manual first
[08:45] <Tempus_> project2501a:does that cover 1 type of languange or the basic foundations and principles of all languages?
[08:45] <project2501a> Tempus_: google "structure and implementation of computer programs". it is a free book by MIT opencourceware. understand what a program is first. get to know the machine. the language will not matter afterwords.
[08:46] <Tempus_> Dr_Willis: is python easy....as a first language?
[08:46] <project2501a> Tempus_: it gives you clues how to think
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> Tempus_:  its designed to be easy to learn for beginners.. and powerfull enough that you wont outgrow it very fast. :)
[08:46] <project2501a> Tempus_: do not worry if the language easy or difficult.
[08:46] <project2501a> Dr_Willis: wtf
[08:46] <project2501a> ...
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> hmm?
[08:47] <Tempus_> project2501a:  ok i will check MIT's site
[08:47] <darth_tux71> ok in sabayon but linux is linux I cant mount my EHDD any ideas in cli?
[08:47] <project2501a> it is designed to be easy to learn for beginners? citation, please?
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> project2501a:  the python tutorial/books ive found on the web.
[08:47] <smw> !netbook
[08:47] <dsimon> project2501a, certainly easier than C, arguably somewhat easier than Java
[08:47] <project2501a> *facepalm*
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> its designed tobe very structured to make it easier tolearn and debug. or somthing like that the books always seem to say at the start.
[08:48] <alex88_> hi guys, i've a problem on my server, i'm trying to connect via ssh and it says "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host", the last thing that can matter is that i've created keys for both ssh on server and client
[08:48] <alex88_> but i haven't changed the sshd config
[08:48] <project2501a> please raise your hand if you have a CS in computer science.
[08:48] <sinurge> rww, thanks
[08:48] <project2501a> BS, even
[08:48] <rww> sinurge: no problem
[08:48] <project2501a> never mind.
[08:48] <Tempus_> Looking for somewhere or someone who can explain the basics like when spaces are needed and what things like    [     ] do??
[08:48] <project2501a> i am in #ubuntu. it's useless to argue here.
[08:48] <project2501a> later
[08:48] <KB1JWQ> alex88_: Sure you got the perms correct?
[08:48] <sinurge> project2501a, is there something that only a cs or bs cn solve ?
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> Tempus_:  You mean in 'regular expressions' ? thats a whold nother book/language :) in many ways.
[08:48] <alex88_> KB1JWQ: i've just created the keys and disconnected..nothing else..
[08:49] <dsimon> sinurge, storming off in a huff, it seems
[08:49] <smw> is there a netbook chatroom?
[08:49] <pixelmischief> need help with raw scsi commands to cdburner in 10.04
[08:49] <sinurge> dsimon, i guess
[08:49] <rww> smw: not that I know of
[08:49] <alex88_> KB1JWQ: but, also, trying to get my site give a 503 temporany unavailable
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> Tempus_:  regular expressions are one of those things that you learn about and then cant live without. :)
[08:49] <darth_tux71> sigh guess not
[08:50] <KB1JWQ> alex88_: Okay, so you broke the box. :-)
[08:50] <dsimon> anyways, Tempus_ i'd recommend you start here: http://docs.python.org/tutorial/introduction.html
[08:50] <smw> rww, so I guess I will ask here :-)
[08:50] <alex88_> KB1JWQ: O.o
[08:50] <dsimon> it'll guide you through all the simple syntax and concepts, and eventually introduce you to more structured programming
[08:50] <KB1JWQ> alex88_: Who hosts it?
[08:50] <tokenmathguy> darth_tux71: mount /dev/sdxN /your/mount/point
[08:50] <sinurge> ok asking again, will installing a seperate home partition help me to share a common /home 10.04 and 10.10 ?
[08:50] <alex88_> KB1JWQ: well..what you mean? i've done nothing special.. btw, keyweb
[08:50] <rww> darth_tux71: considering that this is an Ubuntu channel, and thus Sabayon is offtopic for it... try #sabayon or something?
[08:50] <KB1JWQ> alex88_: If the box is inaccessible call 'em.
[08:50] <Tempus_> dsimon: ok will bookmark and save that ty ....also going to google that book project was refering to
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> sinurge:  you can do that. that does make it a little easier.
[08:50] <tangentcollision> okay, I know it's not technically supported, but I need some help getting the latest ISO written to a USB drive and run correctly
[08:50] <alex88_> i'm going to restart it now..
[08:51] <alex88_> to check if something changes
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> sinurge:  how many users are there going to be?
[08:51] <tangentcollision> all I have as an OS is ubuntu 7.1
[08:51] <darth_tux71> all the same kernel so w/e and that is a problem i have no idea what the mount point is
[08:51] <tangentcollision> oh, and it's a liveCD
[08:51] <pixelmischief> I need help with raw scsi commands to cdburner in 10.04
[08:51] <psycho_oreos> sinurge, it may
[08:51] <rww> darth_tux71: It doesn't matter what kernel they use. It's not Ubuntu, it isn't supported here.
[08:51] <Tempus_> KB1JWQ: .....its been awhile since I took my tech no code...please send me a pm so we can discuss
[08:51] <smw> When using ubuntu netbook edition, I some times come across a window where it refuses to be resized and goes of the bottom of the screen. When using the nebook edition interface, it is impossible to move the window so it is over the bar at the top of the screen. Is there a way to do it?
[08:51] <sinurge> Dr_Willis, its only me but shifting across 2 10.04/10 alpha s a pain to rboot and all
[08:51] <rww> sinurge: yes, but that's not necessarily a good idea. Different versions of programs can have incompatible preferences, so switching back and forth between them can cause weird issues.
[08:51] <tokenmathguy> darth_tux71: you just make your own mount point, typically in the /mnt directory
[08:52] <tokenmathguy> mkdir /mnt/adhoc
[08:52] <rww> sinurge: plus, 10.10 is unstable. unstable things occasionally decide to eat data.
[08:52] <KB1JWQ> darth_tux71: A distro is much more than a kernel. :-)  There's an entire userland to consider.
[08:52] <KB1JWQ> !10.10
[08:52] <chowder> I'm on 10.04, 64 bit and I can't get flash to work. I've installed the flashplugin-installer package but I still can't watch youtube videos or do anything with flash
[08:52] <darth_tux71> wow captain anal im in here because I have lots of knowledge of debian just have an odd problem that is linux related
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> sinurge:  then it should work.. I have had issues in the past with gnome settings smetimes not working properly when changing gnome versions.  You could share the same home but have 2 users to keep them a bit more seperated
[08:52] <tokenmathguy> darth_tux71: then find out what your device is
[08:52] <sinurge> rww, i guess u would be really close
[08:52] <chowder> can anyone offer help with getting flash (even if its via gnash) working on a 64 bit Ubuntu install?
[08:53] <darth_tux71> i can see it and there is an icon in 2 places just wont let me mount it for some reason i cant imagine i need to be root that is silly
[08:53] <sinurge> Dr_Willis, oh yea that could be a good idea having a common home but diff ~user partitions
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> chowder:  i just install it via the package manager and it works..
[08:53] <ThomasB2k> i can see why a debian person would come to ubuntu support
[08:53] <ThomasB2k> honestly
[08:53] <tokenmathguy> darth_tux71: something like /dev/sdxN where x is your device letter and N is your partition number
[08:53] <darth_tux71> 500 GB Hard Disk: My Passport
[08:53] <tangentcollision> all I have as an OS is ubuntu 7.1 livecd
[08:53] <ThomasB2k> it doesn't hurt to help
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> sinurge:  i ment different user names. :)  /home/bob10.04 and /home/bob/10.10
[08:53] <KB1JWQ> darth_tux71: #debian is staffed. :-)
[08:53] <darth_tux71> lol KB1JWQ
[08:54] <darth_tux71> i was in ubuntu 12 hours ago until KDE blarfed it
[08:54] <pixelmischief> How do I get help?  I've asked my question a couple of times but no answer.  Is there a protocol I am missing?
[08:54] <tangentcollision> okay, I know it's not technically supported, but I need some help getting the latest ISO written to a USB drive and run correctly, all I have is ubuntu 7.1 livecd
[08:54] <rww> darth_tux71: then your 12-hour ago self can get support help here.
[08:54] <darth_tux71> makes one miss auto mount
[08:54] <KB1JWQ> pixelmischief: Yeah, there is.
[08:54] <darth_tux71> rww: please
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> pixelmischief:  it could be no one knwos the answer..  Or are busy with other questions
[08:54] <rww> darth_tux71: #debian doesn't support Ubuntu, #ubuntu doesn't support random other distros, random other distros' channels don't support Ubuntu or Debian.
[08:54] <KB1JWQ> pixelmischief: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html is a great starting point if you can get past the tone.
[08:54] <pixelmischief> Ahhh.  Patience.  OK
[08:54] <tangentcollision> pixelmischief: or that your question is vague
[08:54] <alex88_> pixelmischief: maybe no one knows the answer
[08:55] <KB1JWQ> I've yet to see pixelmischief's actual question.
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> pixelmischief:  or all of the above :)
[08:55] <sinurge> Dr_Willis, that was the idea, guess didnt put it across properly
[08:55] <pixelmischief> =)  OK.
[08:55] <tangentcollision> all I have as an OS is ubuntu 7.1 livecd
[08:55] <darth_tux71> rww: and that is the problem with Linux the dist wars no one wants to just be open to the OS it has to be this or that dist or you're sol
[08:55] <KB1JWQ> All I see is yammering baout "needing help with raw scsi commands to a burner." That's not a question.
[08:55] <tangentcollision> okay, I know it's not technically supported, but I need some help getting the latest ISO written to a USB drive and run correctly, all I have is ubuntu 7.1 livecd < anyone please?
[08:55] <darth_tux71> tangentcollision: you can DL and burn the newest its not too hard
[08:55] <tangentcollision> live CD
[08:55] <rww> darth_tux71: It's not a matter of distro wars, it's a matter of there being subtle differences between different distributions that confuse support help.
[08:55] <tangentcollision> no burny
[08:55] <sinurge> darth_tux71, i disagree the wide arrary means wider choice, yo have specific support to what yo want to have
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  no 'unetbootin' for 7.1 eh?
[08:56] <tangentcollision> nope
[08:56] <tangentcollision> or it would be straight to W7 for me
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  no spare windows machines about either?
[08:56] <chowder> Dr_Willis: as I stated above, I already did that and it doesn't wrok
[08:56] <darth_tux71> i was just looking for some simple non-dist specific cli help
[08:56] <tangentcollision> this IS my windows machine
[08:56] <chowder> *work
[08:56] <rww> darth_tux71: then go to your distribution channel or ##linux. Not here.
[08:56] <tangentcollision> my mobo died mid-boot and stuff got borked
[08:56] <smw> darth_tux71, ask in #linux. They appear to not care what distro you are running. Even better, ask in #yourdistro
[08:56] <darth_tux71> rww: kiss my ass ill go where I want
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  ewww..
[08:56] <KB1JWQ> darth_tux71: Be civil or be removed.
[08:57] <ThomasB2k> uh oh
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  well you can make your own bootable flash drive if you know the proper syslinux commands and how to configure it.. i did it ages ago..
[08:57] <tangentcollision> darth_tux71: move from here
[08:57] <darth_tux71> KB1JWQ: tell rww to stop badgering me
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  you extract the iso files to the flash. and install/configure syslinux.
[08:57] <KB1JWQ> !ot
[08:57] <smw> !ops | darth_tux71
[08:57] <darth_tux71> i can be a nice asset here
[08:57] <tangentcollision> Dr_Willis: shezam
[08:57] <tangentcollision> that sounds like fun
[08:57] <alex88_> KB1JWQ: now it says that i can't ssh, connection refused..maybe sshd not started..
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  thats all unetbootin or the other tools do actually.
[08:57] <tangentcollision> better than what I'm doing right now
[08:58] <KB1JWQ> alex88_: Likely.
[08:58] <tangentcollision> oh is it now?
[08:58] <tangentcollision> hmm
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  OR figure out a way to put grub2 on the flash and make it boot the iso file
[08:58] <tangentcollision> !ding
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  yep. syslinux, grub, or grub2..
[08:58] <tangentcollision> the witch is gone
[08:58] <alex88_> KB1JWQ: it happens sometimes, because it not find the ip to bind on and it stops..i've tried to add a sleep in the pre-start script but it seems that not work as expected
[08:59] <tangentcollision> syslinux is where it's looking like going things mahaps the question being ardent fishermen?
[08:59] <elky> darth_tux71, you're not a nice asset if you're using up personhours on non-ubuntu things.
[08:59] <ibrahim-kasem> guys can you help me with gnome-ppp please ?
[08:59] <KB1JWQ> alex88_: With all due respect, what the heck are you doing? :-)
[08:59] <smw> !ask | ibrahim-kasem
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  the annoying thing about syslinux, grub, and grub2- are the configs are all very similer.. but differnt. :) easy to get confused.
[08:59] <darth_tux71> ok so if I am not in ubuntu that means all the time I spent in it and debian is invalid? I just forget it all wow how stupid of a comment is that?
[08:59] <ibrahim-kasem> smw I have asked !
[09:00] <alex88_> KB1JWQ: i've restarted :)
[09:00] <darth_tux71> i had a simple cli question that was all
[09:00] <smw> ibrahim-kasem, in that case, apparently no one knows the answer to your question right now
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  you could copy the files from the iso to the flash drive. install syslinux to the flash. then i THINK copy/rename/edit the sysisoconfig file for syslinux to use.
[09:00] <KB1JWQ> darth_tux71: Yet instead of asking it you're whining.  ##linux works.
[09:00] <ibrahim-kasem> Gnome-ppp always saying modem not responding
[09:00] <sinurge> i got lost to what the question was
[09:01] <pixelmischief> When I try to read the multisession info from a disc using "wodim dev=/dev/sr0 -msinfo", I receive the error response "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read toc scsi sendcmd: no error" and some sense codes.  My not inconsiderable research into the matter leads me to believe this is a result of some change in the 2.6 kernel which deprecated the ide-scsi interface and resolved a vulnerability in device access that disallows the direct send
[09:01] <pixelmischief> ing of SCSI directives to storage devices.  Does anyone know how I can resolve this?
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> sinurge:  there was a question?
[09:01] <ibrahim-kasem> smw, Thank you :)
[09:01] <darth_tux71> not whining at all i have no solution right now one will come up always does i just do not like being attacked for NO reason
[09:01] <tokenmathguy> darth_tux71: i believe your answer is in history
[09:01] <smw> ibrahim-kasem, why are you thinking me? lol
[09:01] <rww> darth_tux71: "violating the channel guidelines" and "no reason" are somewhat different
[09:01] <darth_tux71> yeah i saw it still cant find the dang mount point
[09:01] <darth_tux71> fuck all you
[09:01] <tokenmathguy> mkdir /mnt/adhoc
[09:01] <sinurge> from darth_tux71 i mean....
[09:01] <tokenmathguy> dude...
[09:02] <ibrahim-kasem> smw, because i am too friendley hahaha
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> like that was supriseing...
[09:02] <tokenmathguy> ha
[09:02] <smw> ibrahim-kasem, lol. My guess is that no one knows anything about it. It is probably not used that often :-P
[09:02] <smw> ibrahim-kasem, maybe #gnome will have something?
[09:02] <tangentcollision> wow, darth, that man was uh
[09:03] <ibrahim-kasem> smw, yes dude your right :( but in my country it is still used :(
[09:03] <smw> ibrahim-kasem, I tried to use it once. I got the same issue. I later found out it had to do with the fact that I was using a builtin modem.
[09:04] <dsimon> ibrahim-kasem, can you install a different ppp client?
[09:04] <ibrahim-kasem> dsimon, aha I will see what is there
[09:04] <smw> ibrahim-kasem, the builin modem had issues that could only be resolved with a driver that cost $20
[09:04] <sungji> hi! I'd like to read from /dev/tcp and store the output in a file... unfortunately, I don't seem to know how to pipe that
[09:04] <sungji> Could you give me a hint?
[09:05] <dsimon> sungji, i recommend netcat
[09:05] <smw> sungji, tcpdump?
[09:05] <sungji> dsimon, thanks, I'll try that
[09:05] <dsimon> if by /dev/tcp you mean what i guess
[09:05] <dsimon> smw's suggestion is good too
[09:05] <ibrahim-kasem> dsimon, do you have a name of another ppp client please ? searching in the software center was not helpful
[09:05] <dsimon> depending on if you're thinking of "receiving" or "sniffing"
[09:05] <stercor> How do I determine the amount of memory without rebooting?
[09:05] <pixelmischief> When I try to read the multisession info from a disc using "wodim dev=/dev/sr0 -msinfo", I receive the error response "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read toc scsi sendcmd: no error" and some sense codes.  My research into the matter leads me to believe this is a result of some change in the 2.6 kernel which deprecated the ide-scsi interface and resolved a vulnerability in device access that disallows the direct sending of SCSI directi
[09:05] <pixelmischief> ves to storage devices.  Does anyone know how I can resolve this?
[09:05] <sungji> cat < /dev/tcp/localhost/7000   <-- does print what I wish to store in a file
[09:06] <dsimon> ibrahim-kasem, what ubuntu version are you running?
[09:06] <dsimon> sungji, er, hold on
[09:06] <smw> stercor, cat /proc/meminfo
[09:06] <ibrahim-kasem> dsimon, 10.04 32 bit Lucid
[09:06] <dsimon> what are you trying to accomplish?
[09:06] <stercor> smw: Thanks... brb.
[09:07] <dsimon> hmm, actually
[09:07] <dsimon> ibrahim-kasem, let's back up a bit
[09:07] <dsimon> is it an external modem?
[09:07] <sungji> dsimon, I wrote a little file server in java (all it does is sending a file when some client connects to it), and I'd to test that (without having to write a client by myself :) )
[09:07] <dsimon> sungji, ah, ok
[09:07] <dsimon> so you want to connect to that server and type some stuff at it manually?
[09:07] <ibrahim-kasem> dsimon, in my laptop hp dv6 1045ee
[09:07] <sungji> dsimon, nope, no telnet thing
[09:08] <sungji> dsimon, there's really no other communication (protocol) going on other than connect, serve file, disconnect
[09:08] <dsimon> sungji, so why can't you use telnet?
[09:08] <sungji> dsimon, it's a binary file
[09:08] <dsimon> sungji, ah, ok
[09:08] <dsimon> in that case, netcat really is what you need
[09:08] <dsimon> it's a generic network client
[09:09] <dsimon> you may already have it installed
[09:09] <pixelmischief> sunji, your listener does not have to be a telnet server for telnet to connect to the port.
[09:09] <dsimon> $ man nc
[09:09] <alex88> KB1JWQ: well, not it connects...going to check logs to see wtf happened
[09:10] <dsimon> ibrahim-kasem, from a terminal, try running lspci
[09:10] <dsimon> see if you can find the line describing your modem
[09:10] <sungji> dsimon, it worked :) thanks a lot for taking the time to answer my silly question :D
[09:10] <dsimon> sungji, no problem
[09:10] <BentFranklin> I start x11vnc through a script in ~/.kde/Autostart.  When I ps aux I see two x11vnc processes.  Any idea why?  Could it be from using -loop or -forever options in x11vnc?
[09:11] <rww> BentFranklin: because of -loop, I think
[09:11] <pixelmischief> "wodim dev=/dev/sr0 -msinfo" returns "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read toc scsi sendcmd: no error".  Some change in the 2.6 kernel deprecated ide-scsi and disallows direct SCSI directives to storage devices.  How I can resolve this?
[09:12] <ibrahim-kasem> dsimon, lspci output http://paste.ubuntu.com/481334/
[09:12] <Entelin> is there any unixlike fs that also works well in windows 7?  i used to use ext2 but the drivers don't work well anymore.  I tried ntfs, but unfortunately the executable bit and such doesnt work so its a poor choice...
[09:13] <sandking> hey
[09:13] <Entelin> the ideal i guess would be to divorce my drive from this computer and stick it on a different box and just use it over the network i guess
[09:14] <BentFranklin> rww: I thought -loop was supposed to spawn a new one when it died, not both at the beginning.  Is that normal?
[09:14] <ectospasm> does anyone have any experience installing Oracle Enterprise Linux in VirtualBox on Ubuntu?  I got it installed, but the kernel just hangs on Red Hat nash loading, and there doesn't seem to be any requisite disk activity
[09:14] <rww> BentFranklin: It has an outer process to respawn the inner process when it dies
[09:14] <tensorpudding> Even using it over the network will suck, because SMB doesn't do ACL mapping very well
[09:15] <rww> BentFranklin: that's my understanding of the manpage, anyway
[09:15] <Entelin> yeah but on the linux side I dont have to use smb
[09:15] <Entelin> i can just use sshfs
[09:15] <BentFranklin> Aha, I read that but didn't understand it until now.  Thanks.
[09:15] <Entelin> then windows can use smb, while the base fs is like ext4
[09:16] <Koalabear> clear
[09:16] <tokenmathguy> BentFranklin: ps axuf will show process tree
[09:16] <Entelin> lame...  oh well, I have a system i'm using as a firewall, ill just put it over there
[09:17] <mahdif62> Hi
[09:17] <pixelmischief> When I try to read the multisession info from a disc using "wodim dev=/dev/sr0 -msinfo", I receive the error response "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read toc scsi sendcmd: no error" and some sense codes.  My research into the matter leads me to believe this is a result of some change in the 2.6 kernel which deprecated the ide-scsi interface and resolved a vulnerability in device access that disallows the direct sending of SCSI directi
[09:17] <pixelmischief> ves to storage devices.  Does anyone know how I can resolve this?
[09:17] <mahdif62> Which IM client supports Yahoo video chat?
[09:18] <tangentcollision> damn, I wish there were a unetbootin channel
[09:19] <ibrahim-kasem> mahdif62, I don't think it is available !
[09:19] <well_laid_lawn> mahdif62: If you want yahoo videochat = gyachi
[09:19] <ibrahim-kasem> skype supports video and amsn
[09:19] <ibrahim-kasem> mahdif62, skype supports video and amsn
[09:21] <mahdif62> ibrahim-kasem: well_laid_lawn: doesn't Empathy support webcams on  yahoo protocol?
[09:21] <well_laid_lawn> mahdif62: not from my google-fu
[09:22] <Koalabear> how i can add my custom words in bash completion..
[09:22] <ibrahim-kasem> mahdif62, no !
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  their web site had  a forum i think..been a whils since ive been there
[09:22] <fross> how can i force my wifi to connect at 54mb. i ran iwconfig wlan0 rate 54m but im still at 1mb
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> Koalabear:  its defined by /etc/bash_completion  stuff  - you can make your own. I recall some sites withj tutorials on bash cmpletion. I recall years ago when it wasent even commonly used.. (the bad old days)
[09:24] <Koalabear> Dr_Willis: it 'll help me a lot..
[09:25] <BentFranklin> Any way to make kde restart but keeping all my windows open?  I want to make it run Autostart scripts without typing them into a bash shell.
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> you are wanting to test kde's autostart stuff You mean?
[09:27] <BentFranklin> Yes, I am testing x11vnc, running it from ~/.kde/Autostart.  If I type the script into a shell it has all sorts of output I don't want to see.
[09:28] <BentFranklin> I guess I could just minimize the shell until I reboot.
[09:30] <lboken> hi again all
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> BentFranklin:  pipe the output to /dev/null  and 'exit' the shell
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> or just BG it and  exit the shell
[09:31] <lboken> on ubuntu 10.04 is there a software that turn windows wireless driver to linus?
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> or all of the above
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> lboken:  ndiswrapper can work for Some drivers.
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> lboken:  but its not commonly used these days
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> !info ndiswrapper
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. i spelt it wrong?
[09:32] <bazhang> -common I think
[09:32]  * Dr_Willis needs  tab completion for  factoids :)
[09:32] <well_laid_lawn> !find ndiswrapper
[09:32] <well_laid_lawn> it's not a package it seems
[09:34] <tangentcollision> okay, this is really annoying
[09:35] <tangentcollision> I am unable to wipe this drive clean
[09:35] <bazhang> tangentcollision, with shred ?
[09:35] <tangentcollision> fdisk and cfdisk both SAY they are doing things
[09:35] <tangentcollision> but when I look at it after remounting it, it's got the same contents and FS
[09:37] <tangentcollision> oooh
[09:37] <tangentcollision> mkfs would do it
[09:37] <tangentcollision> durp
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  in some cases after repartitioning you need to reboot for the changes to be seen also.
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> Used to be common ages ago. Not so common these days
[09:37] <BentFranklin> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[09:37] <sinurge> Dr_Willis, right...try using gparted as a livecd
[09:37] <tangentcollision> yeah
[09:38] <tangentcollision> oh, gparted
[09:38] <tangentcollision> well...uh, embarrass
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> I recall fdisk eery so often mentioning somnthing like 'kernel is using old parittion layout' when you quit.
[09:38] <tangentcollision> yeah
[09:38] <tangentcollision> that's what it said
[09:38] <tangentcollision> I forgot that the thing meant what it said
[09:39] <tangentcollision> and said what it meant
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> :) 'Ubuntu Super Powers activate! Reboot!' :)
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu us faithfull 100%
[09:40] <sinurge> Dr_Willis, :)
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure if its not as common thesed days because of how sata/drives/controllers work.. or some other kernle changes
[09:40] <ibrahim-kasem> guys can you help with configuring kppp or gnome-ppp
[09:41] <tangentcollision> man
[09:41] <tangentcollision> this will take forever
[09:41] <tangentcollision> if it doesn't work, it's going to piss me off xD
[09:42] <AngryKoala> is this a good way to back up folders:  tar -cpJf foldername.tar.xz foldername
[09:42] <tangentcollision> I'm not allowed to say what I was going to tell you
[09:44] <lboken> i do have teh linux driver but i dont understand the files that explained how to install the driver first i have to find the builder with the command2. cat /proc/usb/devices.
[09:44] <lboken> but doesnt work
[09:44] <ectospasm> AngryKoala: try adding -v so you know it's working (-;
[09:45] <lboken> taht was why iwanted the software to install it with windows driver
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> I think any guide that says mess with /proc/usb  may be a little out of date.. I dont have a /proc/usb
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> lboken:  so start from the beginning.. what device are you trying to get working?
[09:47] <lboken> Dr_Willis neither do i  that why   but its not a old key its an asus its still listed on there website so
[09:48] <lboken> ASUS 167g  an usb wireless
[09:48] <lboken> to have the net on my pc
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> plug it in and  check what 'lsusb'  says about it.
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> Its very likely the drivers are allready included.. or in the repos.
[09:49] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: Just dd the windows iso to your flash drive. "sudo dd if=/path/to/windows.iso of=/dev/sdX" where "sdX" is the device name for your flash drive. Be sure you get the device name correct, as that device will be **completely overwritten**, all data will be lost on the device you dd the image to.
[09:49] <tangentcollision> Jordan_U: that doesn't work, for christ's sake
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> Ive only seen a few Linux-Distro ISO files You  can 'dd' to a flash drive.. Never seen it done with windows..
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> I would be very suprised if it worked.
[09:50] <tangentcollision> it doesn't work with windows because of the MBR
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> there ARE tools out there to make a windows-flash-drive installer ive seen
[09:50] <tangentcollision> however, if there were some way to fix the MBR before I rebooted
[09:50] <AngryKoala> windows doesnt work on a usb drive since it was specifically made for a cd
[09:50] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: You tried it? I'd specifically heard that worked with the windows 7 install isos.
[09:50] <tangentcollision> Dr_Willis: that's what I'm workin' on
[09:51] <tangentcollision> Jordan_U: I get a "NO BOOT BLAH BLAH ALL CAPS REBOOT PRESS KEY" error
[09:51] <tangentcollision> because it can't find the CD
[09:51] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: Sorry.
[09:51] <tangentcollision> thanks for the suggestion
[09:51] <tangentcollision> I just wish it worked
[09:52] <xperia> hello to all. anybody here how can help me with a ugly problem related to mysql ? my innodbdata1 got defected and i need to repair it but i dont know how
[09:52] <tangentcollision> so very much
[09:52] <tangentcollision> 75% done!
[09:56] <lboken> ok Dr_Willis here what i got  i have linux foundation ,1.1  boot hub, then holtek semiconductor, then logitech (mouse), then genesys logic usb 4port hub, then i have asustek computer inc (the number for the vendor and product id  is 0b05 1791  then i have linux foundation
[09:57] <lboken> but there is no such id in my file i have 0b05 **** but not that number
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> lboken:  you could do a 'lsusb > withgizmo.txt'    then unplug it.. and try lsusb > withoutgizmo.txt    and compare the 2 file.. see if you can track down what line is giving info about the usb gizmo
[10:00] <abhinav_singh> where to get battery status in linux?
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> lboken:  You may also want to check the forums for that exact make/model of the usb gizmo
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> abhinav_singh:  I think theres one built in..  and ive seen some alternatives mentioned on the OMGubuntu web site and other places.
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> abhinav_singh:  or theres various widgits/dektop applets that can give info also
[10:01] <abhinav_singh> Dr_Willis i want to see it using command line
[10:01] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: It seems to be a popular rumar that dd works, there are many blogs claiming it works (filled with comments complaining that it doesn't). The answer from gunthers here seems promising: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714 (even though the answer with the most votes is the wrong one). Direct link to the likely correct answer: http://serverfault.com/revisions/530f205f-a2c6-44e0-ab1d-d8567f0e710b/view-source
[10:02] <lboken> i did a google reserch and some one as exactly the same problemes but using another version of ubuntu
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> abhinav_singh:  theres files in /proc/ that have info on that i recall
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> abhinav_singh:  explore /proc/ a bit
[10:02] <pietime> Dr_Willis, vlc is still hiccuping on media
[10:03] <abhinav_singh> ok Dr_Willis
[10:03] <tangentcollision> Jordan_U: if what I'm doing right now doesn't work, then I'll try again
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> abhinav_singh:  i saw a artical about /proc/ i bookmarked - its somewhere in my links at http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[10:04] <u8untu> hey
[10:04] <abhinav_singh> yup Dr_Willis:
[10:04] <pietime> Does anyone know why my Lubuntu system is hiccuping on media?
[10:05] <ectospasm> pietime: I've never heard of Lubuntu, maybe try #lubuntu?
[10:05] <u8untu> i want to install ubuntu instead of windows..i`m using a usb flash drive..i made all that they say on ubuntu.com ...but..when i restart my pc it says "no default or ui configuration directive found"
[10:05] <pietime> ectospasm, yeah they are all busy
[10:06] <lboken> Dr_Willis i tryed your command but it doesnt worki get  the error  ( no such file or directory)
[10:06] <ectospasm> pietime: or do you mean "kubuntu?
[10:06] <pietime> no
[10:06] <pietime> !lubuntu
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> lboken:  what was the exact command you used ?
[10:06] <abhinav_singh> Dr_Willis: Well you have a very good links at your bookmarks
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> I cant imagine why vlc would 'hickup' in lubuntu, but not ubuntu.
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> abhinav_singh:  check other peoples tagged linkx also at that site.. better then google in many ways
[10:07] <lboken> Dr_Willis  lsusb > withgizmo.txt
[10:07] <abhinav_singh> hmmm Dr_Willis: I am checking your links
[10:08] <u8untu> i want to install ubuntu instead of windows..i`m using a usb flash drive..i made all that they say on ubuntu.com ...but..when i restart my pc it says "no default or ui configuration directive found"
[10:09] <pietime> u8untu, are you trying to use a flash drive
[10:09] <u8untu> yes pietime
[10:11] <pietime> u8untu, did you configure the BIOS to boot from the usb
[10:11] <abhinav_singh> Dr_Willis: With pwd command we see only absolute path...............is there any way to see relative path
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> lboken:  it works here.. be sure you are in a directroy you can write to.
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> 'made all that they say' ? what did they say?
[10:11] <lboken> dr_willis that waht i just did i wasnt in one  i coudl write
[10:11] <u8untu> Dr_Willis http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[10:11] <lboken> sorry for my error
[10:11] <u8untu> here..step by step
[10:11] <u8untu> i made it..but..i got this error: http://img94.imageshack.us/i/zdjcie000to.jpg/
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> I normally just download the iso and use unetbootin on a windows machine of other linux bos to make a bootable flash drive. :)
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> abhinav_singh:  never noticed or tried.. relative to what? :)
[10:12] <pietime> you dont even need to download the iso, unetbootin does all the work for you Dr_Willis and u8untu
[10:12] <pietime> Does anyone know why my Lubuntu system is hiccuping on media?
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  i use my own customuized  isos
[10:13] <abhinav_singh> relative to my current working directory Dr_Willis
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> abhinav_singh:  pwd = print working diretory.. its where you are at.. so it is your currnt working directory.. Unless im confused about somthing
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  you may want to check the forums, and the #lubuntu channel. Ive never heard of anyone else with the issue. I cant imagine what would be causing it either.
[10:14] <abhinav_singh> no Dr_Willis: you are absolutely right
[10:14] <lboken> Dr_Willis teh only line that get away is Bus 001 Device 021: ID 0b05:1791 ASUSTek Computer, Inc.
[10:14] <lboken> but like i sayed 05b05:1791 isnt in my choice
[10:15] <lboken> i have for choice 0B05		1706		rt25USB
[10:15] <lboken> 	0B05		1707		rt25USB
[10:15] <lboken> 	0B05		1723		rt73
[10:15] <lboken> 	0B05		1724		rt73
[10:15] <FloodBot4> lboken: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> lboken:  make note of that  device. so you can search for it. It would seme that its very unsupported if its not even itentifyng the device.
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> lboken:   I wouls have to say check the forums, or if you are brave. try the 10.10 live cd thats in testing and see if that sees the device.
[10:16] <pietime> by the way Dr_Willis, the drive is on another system, networked and has ubuntu installed on it
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> lboken:  if the 10.10 dosent see it or give better info from lsusb. you may want to file a bug report on it.
[10:17] <lboken> you mean 10.04 lol
[10:18] <UndiFineD> Dr_Willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/481356/
[10:20] <UndiFineD> lboken, seems realtek to me
[10:21] <tangentcollision> wow
[10:21] <tangentcollision> fucking anhero time
[10:21] <tangentcollision> 1 TB of video editing?
[10:21] <tangentcollision> gone
[10:21] <oCean_> tangentcollision: watch your language please
[10:21] <tangentcollision> with one mistyped letter
[10:21] <tangentcollision> oCean_: apologies
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> lboken:  no i mean try it in 10.10 and if it dosent work file a bug. so it may get fixed befor 10.10 is finallized/released :)
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> u8untu:  that image you posted is basically showing that syslinux is not configured properly Im guessing a mistake or missing config file
[10:23] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: I assume you used dd / fdisk / mkfs on the wrong drive?
[10:24] <tangentcollision> dd
[10:24] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: How long was dd running?
[10:24] <tangentcollision> a second or 5
[10:24] <tangentcollision> /dev/sda1 doesn't exist though
[10:24] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: Then your data is likely recoverable with testdisk.
[10:25] <tangentcollision> testdisk?
[10:25] <tangentcollision> what is this testdisk?
[10:25] <abhinav_singh> hw to see file information....i mean when it is created...whats its last modification time
[10:25] <_lore> hello, I'm having problems setting up an ethernet bridge on ubuntu 10.4 desktop edition, keep getting the dhcp client interfering but can't find the "old" dhcdbd to be stopped. any advice?
[10:25] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: If you're lucky, all you've lost is the partition table. testdisk is a tool that can detect filesystems and restore partition tables.
[10:25] <oCean_> abhinav_singh: stat <file>'
[10:26] <tangentcollision> Jordan_U: where/how
[10:26] <pietime> Does anyone know why my Lubuntu system is hiccuping on media?
[10:26] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: Note, that's only if you're lucky.
[10:26] <_lore> tangentcollision: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[10:27] <akrill> ha. anhero.
[10:27] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: dd should have said how much data it wrote if you closed it by pressing ctrl+c, was it less than 1 meg?
[10:28] <spazmi> why do I get the following errors on my Torrentflux installation? - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/554kXGK9
[10:28] <tangentcollision> it was probably around that mark
[10:29] <_lore> spazmi: torrrentflux is using a php function that is now deprecated in the last php version, those are just warning anyway, you can still use it and in the next versions it will probably get fixed
[10:29] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: With modern drives it's recommended to start the first partition 1 meg into the drive for alignment reasons, most tools will follow this convention as well as most drives that come pre-formatted.
[10:30] <tangentcollision> I see
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> Jordan_U:  i wonder if thats why this win7 set up has that. quirk..
[10:31] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: Which means that there is the mbr + 1 meg of useless bits at the beginning of the disk.
[10:31]  * Dr_Willis wonders whats being alignmed on the drive
[10:32] <delx> Hey
[10:32] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/advice.html has a pretty good explanation.
[10:33] <tangentcollision> as soon as I can, if I can, I'll be parting the drive off into 250 GB paritions
[10:33] <tangentcollision> and one sumptin partition
[10:33] <tangentcollision> 220?
[10:33] <tangentcollision> w/e
[10:33] <tangentcollision> think I'll be able to install testdisk ever?
[10:34] <tangentcollision> because I don't have any choices...
[10:34] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: Are you having problems installing testdisk?
[10:34] <tangentcollision> I don't know if it'll be possible
[10:34] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: Why wouldn't it be?
[10:34] <tangentcollision> seeing as I have to use UB 7.1 live cd
[10:35] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: You can install software in the live environment.
[10:36] <tangentcollision> not my point
[10:36] <tangentcollision> my point is that all the repos are dead
[10:36] <tangentcollision> so if I need something, I'm screwed
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> the old repos have been moved to some other place. you have to alter the sources.list to mnatch with the new address
[10:37] <tangentcollision> oh, it doesn't even have to be "installed" just downloaded, thank god
[10:38] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: Now that your 1TB of data is on the line can you go out an buy a blank CD?
[10:39] <abhinav_singh> i am using google chrome on ubuntu.........please tell me how to update it
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> abhinav_singh:  enabel some PPA's for it. and it will update as the PPA does same as if it was from a normal Repo.
[10:40] <DasEi> abhinav_singh: add the repo
[10:40] <tangentcollision> lots of cylenders to read
[10:40] <tangentcollision> Jordan_U: I still can't write to one, I'm on a liveCD
[10:40] <tangentcollision> and only having one optical drive...
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> Is chrome in the partners repo yet?
[10:40] <Jordan_U> abhinav_singh: Updates should come in through System > Administration > Update Manager. Chrome's installer adds the chrome repository automatically.
[10:40] <abhinav_singh> Dr_Willis what is the PPA
[10:41] <yessir_turan> abhinav_singh: Use firefox nightlies, they are way better :P
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[10:41] <tangentcollision> also, it's like...6 AM
[10:41] <spazmi> _lore: sorry for a late reply, but what do you mean with next version? next version of torrentflux or next version of php? :)
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> abhinav_singh:  i let ubuntu-tweak enable the ppa for me. :)
[10:41] <quantumelixir> How exactly does GNU Make detect files whose content has changed since the last run of make? Does it write the mtimes of the dependencies to a file somewhere so that it can compare them when I run make again?
[10:41] <yessir_turan> quantumelixir: comparing target mtime with source mtime
[10:41] <_lore> spazmi: next version of torrentflux, they'll probably use the new function in php
[10:42] <spazmi> _lore: ok ok, not sure if they still develop it tough
[10:42] <spazmi> though
[10:42] <DasEi> abhinav_singh: also a nice tool : http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[10:42] <Jordan_U> quantumelixir: You'll notice that "touch foo.c" will cause foo.c (and any files that depend on it) be recompiled by a subsequent "make".
[10:42] <DasEi> abhinav_singh: also a nice tool : but keep in mind, always your own risk to enable whatever
[10:43] <tangentcollision> Jordan_U: before the "quick scan" started happening, it saw no partitions
[10:43] <quantumelixir> yessir_turan: By "comparing" you mean the check is for mtime(source) == mtime(target) then do nothing else compile? But will they have identical mtimes when I run make? What if the target building takes a long time etc.?
[10:43] <_lore> spazmi: oh, that's another issue :p anyway, for now I don't think you'll have any sort of problem, usually php developer leave for some time deprecated functions and just give that warning, you can also suppress it if you want editing /etc/apache2/php.ini
[10:43] <quantumelixir> oh sorry
[10:43] <abhinav_singh> DasEi:yes you are right
[10:43] <quantumelixir> yessir_turan: got it
[10:43] <tangentcollision> Jordan_U: should I give up and start trying to build from the bottom up?
[10:43] <quantumelixir> yessir_turan: The check isn't for == but <=
[10:43] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: Depends on how valuable the data is to you.
[10:44] <tangentcollision> half of it is video that I've produced
[10:44] <quantumelixir> jordan_u: Thanks.
[10:44] <Jordan_U> quantumelixir: You're welcome.
[10:44] <tangentcollision> but it is hosted on youtube
[10:44] <tangentcollision> I can always get the programs back
[10:45] <tangentcollision> and there's a bunch of crap that I don't remember in the first place
[10:45] <tangentcollision> so, I wouldn't be entirely trashed, but I'd be rather irate that my latest project didn't even get finished being edited
[10:46] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: photorec will almost certainly be able to find and recover all of the video files, but possibly not the project files. With 1 TB of space 99.99% of your data is still intact, the question is how much time you want to invest in recovering it.
[10:46] <UndiFineD> if you are goin to reinstall tangentcollision , make multiple partitions so you can separate os / user / from data
[10:47] <tangentcollision> UndiFineD: it's windows, the reason I'm in here is because I have to use this crappy CD to do everything with...(stupid outdated thing)
[10:47] <UndiFineD> this should be done on windows too
[10:47] <pietime> are the caches in Lubuntu intentionally shrunk?
[10:47] <UndiFineD> you can move doucments and setting to an other drive
[10:47] <pietime> does anyone know how to increase the cache size for everything in Lubuntu?
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  i wouldent think that would be a lubuntu setting.
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  the media players have ther own cache settings
[10:48] <pietime> Dr_Willis, could lubuntu somehow predefine them?
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  vlc would use the same settings i imagine. Not lubuntu specific vlc settings
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  as a test you could install for example 'icewm'  and try it and seeif it also has the same issue.
[10:49] <drygrain> :D
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> or just plain openbox/fluxbox   instead of  lubuntu 's desktop or gnomes desktop.
[10:49] <pietime> lubuntu is more than the lxde window manager
[10:49] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: It's 3:00 AM here, so I need to get some sleep. If you're here tomorrow I can help you get bootstrapped to run 10.04 live from an iso file on the hard drive, and help further with data recovery.
[10:50] <tangentcollision> pz
[10:50] <tangentcollision> thanks for the help
[10:50] <tangentcollision> sleep well and what not
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  and you can install icewm on your lubuntu system and use it instead of the lxde.. and se eif the issue is still there.
[10:50] <Jordan_U> tangentcollision: You're welcome.
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> there is the #lubuntu channel. but ive never seen/heard of any mention of it afecting disk caches or stuff for the various programs.
[10:51] <pietime> Dr_Willis, what im saying is that lubuntu is more than just ubuntu with a different window manager. it has a wide range of differences
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> it could be some 'bug' in lubuntu.
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  the differances i saw were minimal really. they dont have a lubuntu-vlc package or so forth.. they are using the normal vlc package.
[10:51] <drygrain> whats the advantage of lxde over xfce
[10:51] <Dr_Willis>  now the USER defaults could be different.. perhaps..
[10:51] <drygrain> just preference?
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> but even then i would find that  hard to belivbe they would mess with it that way
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> drygrain:  its lighter then xfce even.
[10:52] <pietime> ok Dr_Willis do you really know this first hand?
[10:52] <drygrain> squeal!
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  check the package manager and see.  check your home dir on a lubuntu install and see.. why would they make custome vlc settings when vlc is not installed by default.
[10:53] <LinuxGuy2009> When I open sound preferences I can see that I can manually drag the volume slider higher than 100% if a youtube videos volume is a bit too low, but is there any tweak I can make to enable my netbooks multimedia volume keys to get it to go over the 100% without having to manually open sound preferences and doing it each time?
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  when in doubt ask in #lubuntu and the lubuntu forums also.
[10:53] <pietime> Dr_Willis, i just thought that would be a system wide setting that some how affected media playback
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  you ahve  a system with ubuntu AND lubuntu both on it? or a single system with both dekstops installed.
[10:54] <Damascene> hi, many programs windows does not appear in workspaces. I need to hit Alt+Tab to see them
[10:54] <acidflash> hello people, i am having some trouble getting a file to run on startup using update-rc.d
[10:54] <acidflash> can anyone help?
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  there may be some in /etc/ but i doubt if lubuntu would be doing anyting differen tto the vlc settings that are not in the normal vlc package.
[10:54] <acidflash> ubuntu 10.04
[10:54] <pietime> Dr_Willis, I have a lubuntu system.
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  and you were testing this out in Ubuntu somehow?
[10:55] <pietime> no i have another system that is ubuntu
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> ahh.. differnt machine totally...
[10:55] <pietime> yes
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> Be an interesting test to try out a ubuntu and lubuntu live cd on teh same box.. and see if the issue  is repeatable on the same machine.
[10:56] <pietime> Dr_Willis, i have
[10:56] <tangentcollision> 8%, good god, I'm going to sleep a little
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> next time  the one hangs.. also check 'dmesg' output.
[10:56] <pietime> this system was formerly ubuntu
[10:56] <pietime> it worked fine
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> could be some odd kernel/hardware quirk
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  another interesting test would be to also install the ubuntu-desktop package  but USE the lxde desktop, (not gnome) and see if the problem goes away.
[10:57] <pietime> Dr_Willis, that would use up a lot of resources
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> It would use up some hard drive space.. but not much sles if gnome isent running
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> If that fixed the issue.. that would be an interesting bug report to give to the Lubuntu devs
[10:58] <pietime> Dr_Willis, actually, i did have the lubuntu desktop installed on ubuntu at one time
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> I had 'lubuntu-desktop' break my ubuntu system :) so i really dont have much faith in lubuntu...
[10:59] <pietime> yeah it isnt really stable until 10.10
[10:59] <ibrahim-kasem> !lubuntu
[11:00] <pietime> iios
[11:00] <pietime> oops
[11:00] <pietime> i mean
[11:00] <antivirtel> hello all
[11:00] <pietime> i mean the supported distro isnt stable
[11:00] <MichealH> !hi | antivirtel
[11:00] <pietime> the distro 10.04 is stable though
[11:00] <ibrahim-kasem> antivirtel, hello
[11:01] <kuttan_> hello all
[11:01] <MichealH> Hello kuttan_
[11:01] <antivirtel> I'm looking for a parrental control GUI, that can limit time, and have adult-content filter, and (maybe available in hung. language)... I've found these: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843510 I think there are no time limiter... :\
[11:02] <kuttan> anybody has successfully installed dom0 kernel on 10.04
[11:02] <antivirtel> *parental
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> I dont think Lubuntu is an official ubuntu variant yet. It was supposed to be. but had to many issues.. they were targeting having it officially supported in 10.10 (i think)
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> antivirtel:  i recall some firefox extensions that also did that. (i dident use them much)
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> antivirtel:  i cant even rember its name. but it had most of those features.
[11:03] <antivirtel> Dr_Willis I want to logout with children's usr, and after 24h he can log in
[11:03] <Th3Mirr0r> hello
[11:03] <Th3Mirr0r> is someone online?
[11:04] <antivirtel> !asd | Th3Mirr0r
[11:04] <MichealH> Th3Mirr0r: Just state your question
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> antivirtel:  good luck with that then. ive not noticed any that force a person to log off and ot let them back in
[11:04] <antivirtel> !ask | Th3Mirr0r
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> 1143 people online... - the bots
[11:04] <MichealH> Dr_Willis: Some can be idle ;)
[11:05] <acidflash> need help with update-rc.d on ubuntu 10.04.. looked all over the net and no solutions yet...
[11:05] <MichealH> We have lives
[11:05] <Th3Mirr0r> who knows how to configure my internet? i installed on a pc ubuntu studio but the internet doesnt work
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> acidflash:  with the move of many services to Upstart  that command is a bit obsolete.
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure it even works at all with upstart sericves
[11:05] <acidflash> Dr_Willis: upstart ? how do i access that?
[11:05] <DasEi> Th3Mirr0r: how do you connect ?
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> acidflash:  upstart scripts are in /etc/init
[11:06] <MichealH> Th3Mirr0r: Do you connect via a cable or wireless?
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> many serices now ue upstart and not the older sysv system scripts
[11:06] <DasEi> Th3Mirr0r:ubuntu-studio isn't supported here, but cam pm me, if you like
[11:06] <DasEi> can*
[11:07] <acidflash> Dr_Willis: i am going to read about upstart, so i have to add my script to /etc/init in order for it to work ?
[11:07] <antivirtel> Dr_Willis http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/6584/1/screenshot3850/ :):):):)
[11:07] <pietime> !lxc
[11:07] <antivirtel> I think it will work nice :D:D:D
[11:09] <kuttan> !lxc
[11:09] <pietime> does anyone know anything about lxc?
[11:09] <kuttan> !txt
[11:10] <DasEi> !fishing
[11:10] <pietime> why is that factoid called "fishing"?
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> acidflash:  depend on what its doing. You could just call it from /etc/rc.local
[11:11] <DasEi> pietime: to keep channel readable and not have all kinds of tries in here
[11:11] <DasEi> kuttan: what shall lxc be about ?
[11:13] <acidflash> Dr_Willis: i added a squid.conf file in /etc/init and added two lines, description "Squid3 cache server" and exec /etc/init.d/squid start
[11:13] <MichealH> !pastebin > Th3Mirr0r
[11:13] <acidflash> do i have to do anything else or will it just take it automatically after restart?
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> acidflash:  no idea. upstart scripts have a very specific syntax. I dont make my own :)
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> acidflash:  why dident squid have its own init scripts when you intalled it? it seems like it should have included some
[11:14] <acidflash> Dr_Willis: in all honestly i dont know, i compiled from source and it diddnt have an init.d script
[11:14] <kuttan> How much disk space is required to get a functional Ubuntu system
[11:15] <kuttan> Gnome Desktop + Sound
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> acidflash:  why did you compile from source.. You Could download/check the squid deb packages and see what scripts they include
[11:15] <arzhar> guys, im getting some sound errors when i try to run quake 3
[11:15] <arzhar> /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[11:15] <arzhar> any ideas ?
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> kuttan:  id say 10gb. perhaps smaller.. but that may be tight
[11:15] <DasEi> acidflash: runlevel and - if desired , daemon (background) mode shall be configured, but no geek on this, here too
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> kuttan:  if you wan tto do 'real' work that is. :)
[11:16] <kuttan> okay thanks Doc!
[11:16] <acidflash> Dr_Willis: apt-get install gets old version
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> acidflash:  is there any MUST have features in the new version?
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> acidflash:  there also may be some PPA's with ndwer versions.
[11:16] <DasEi> acidflash: runlevel as you will need the network and some other services up before squid can successfull start
[11:16] <acidflash> Dr_Willis: yes, SMP semi support
[11:16] <arzhar> no one ? :)
[11:16] <Gnea> no one at all
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> acidflash:  means nothing to me. :)
[11:17] <acidflash> Dr_Willis: ok where can i read about run-level
[11:17] <Gnea> arzhar: what's the problem?
[11:17] <DasEi> !runlevel | acidflash
[11:17] <arzhar> Gnea: no sound with quake 3 and other games
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> acidflash:  heres the squid.conf that got installed just now...
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> $ pastebinit squid.conf
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/YuTN6LJy
[11:17] <Gnea> arzhar: are you part of the audio group?
[11:18] <kuttan>  !runlevel | acidflash
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> acidflash: ubuntu dosent really use runlevels
[11:18] <arzhar> Gnea: hm, should be, everything is default, let me check
[11:18] <arzhar> well
[11:18] <Gnea> arzhar: just open a terminal and type: id     you should see in there something like 29(audio)
[11:18] <DasEi> acidflash: look at the other files in /etc/init , there you find numbers for it, it's now far beyond 1-6, the bigger a number, the later it will start
[11:19] <Gnea> if it's not there, you'll need to add yourself to the audio group, logout, login
[11:19] <arzhar> nope, its not there
[11:19] <Gnea> that's the problem then :)
[11:19] <Dr_Willis>  /etc/init dosent use #'s like that. :)
[11:19] <Gnea> just go system->admin->users&groups
[11:19] <kuttan> is anybody using XEN on Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[11:19] <Gnea> unlock it and add yourself
[11:20] <Gnea> !xen
[11:20] <acidflash> Dr_Willis: thank you very much, i will add that to /etc/init
[11:20] <arzhar> Gnea: thanks ill give a try now
[11:20] <kuttan> ubottu I am using 10.04
[11:20] <Gnea> arzhar: remember, after you add yourself, you need to login again for it to take proper effect
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> acidflash:  It might even work. :)
[11:22] <CruelCoke|Pup310> Hi. What squashfs version does ubuntu 810 use?
[11:24] <Damascene> hi, many programs windows does not appear in workspaces. I need to hit Alt+Tab to see them
[11:24] <arzhar> Gnea: nope
[11:24] <arzhar> thats the error btw
[11:24] <arzhar> /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[11:24] <arzhar> Could not open /dev/dsp
[11:24] <FloodBot4> arzhar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:25] <Gnea> arzhar: can you pastebin output of ls -l /dev/dsp*  ?
[11:25] <DasEi> CruelCoke|Pup310: apt-cache show squashfs-tools on karmic should tell
[11:26] <Renski> can anyone recommend a tool which would allow an app without proxy support to use a proxy? I.e. you open port of lo, and connect the application to that, and it automatically forwards you to a prefonfigured socks proxy/target? does such a tool exist?
[11:27] <Gnea> Renski: iptables
[11:27] <Renski> really?
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> Renski:  sounds a lot like a ssh tunnel also..
[11:27] <Gnea> yes.
[11:27] <arzhar> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/PXX5zkSi
[11:27] <arzhar> it gives sdp1
[11:27] <Renski> awesome, how?
[11:27] <CruelCoke|Pup310> ok, arzhar... what .sfs version does ubuntu 810 use?
[11:28] <DasEi> acidflash: I'm still busy for ~20 min here, but recently digged upstart out, so we can meet back in a moment
[11:29]  * CruelCoke|Pup310 considers starting a project that can create linux distros on PuppyCore - the distro acts as a livecd, but sessions can be saved to a pendriver in a .2fs file
[11:29] <philinux> CruelCoke|Pup310: use remastersys
[11:30] <CruelCoke|Pup310> idk of such thing, all i need is a .sfs version checker for windows and linux
[11:31] <Gnea> arzhar: sudo ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp   and try again
[11:31] <CruelCoke|Pup310> but since the pendrive is the device to test builds, the builds themselves would be assembled under Windows
[11:31] <Gnea> CruelCoke|Pup310: why under windows?
[11:33] <CruelCoke|Pup310> because i can't install linux to hdd, livecd is slow and the pendrive IS the thing to which the result of experiment is placed for boot
[11:33] <Gnea> why can't you install linux to hdd?
[11:33] <tangentcollision> what?
[11:34] <tangentcollision> what the hell is up with THAT?
[11:34] <CruelCoke|Pup310> some weird ntfs bug-up that has no effect on WIN, but only on NIX
[11:34] <Gnea> !language + tangentcollision
[11:34] <tangentcollision> NTFS-3G
[11:34] <Gnea> !language | tangentcollision
[11:34] <DasEi> tangentcollision: what happened ?
[11:34] <tangentcollision> Gnea: what?
[11:34] <Gnea> CruelCoke|Pup310: when does it happen?
[11:34] <tangentcollision> DasEi: what???
[11:35] <tangentcollision> so confused!
[11:35] <Gnea> please to not be trolling in here, kthx.
[11:35] <CruelCoke|Pup310> root filesystem not found
[11:35] <Renski> tangentcollision: apprently someone thought you were being offensive :)
[11:35] <Gnea> CruelCoke|Pup310: even with wubi?
[11:35] <DasEi> tangentcollision: last time you succesfull started testdisk, so what is happening ?
[11:35] <tangentcollision> okay, but DasEi, what do you mean what happened?
[11:35] <tangentcollision> oh
[11:35] <tangentcollision> jesus, I thought something WORSE happened
[11:36] <CruelCoke|Pup310> the planter makes it run, but only for the next reboot after the install
[11:36] <tangentcollision> the quick scan is at 30%
[11:36] <Gnea> the 'planter'?
[11:36] <Gnea> okay, I must be reading things wrong, good night.
[11:36] <CruelCoke|Pup310> wubi is a planter, not a proper installer
[11:36] <Gnea> don't start with 'proper'
[11:36] <Gnea> wubi *works*
[11:37] <mgt_90> CruelCoke|Pup310: Maybe try installing in a VM?
[11:37] <umc> hey guys. I installed ubuntu for the first time, over a mandriva install, but kept my /home partition, including my .ssh folder, but now when I try to ssh into another box, I get "Permission denied (publickey, keyboard-interactive)" any idea why it doesn't use the keys from ~/.ssh ?
[11:37] <Gnea> virtualbox might work, though
[11:37] <abhijit> hi
[11:37] <Gnea> unless your system is too old
[11:37] <u8untu> Dr_Willis i did the way you told me.. with unetbootin .. but it says the same error
[11:37] <pure_hate> umc, you have to give the folder permisions for the new user
[11:38] <CruelCoke|Pup310> i didn't master any VM's, plus working with my 2 HDD partitions, DVD and pendrive is easier in Windows
[11:38] <Gnea> !vbox | CruelCoke|Pup310
[11:38] <arzhar> Gnea: sorry, i had to do something
[11:38] <arzhar> anyway, it worked :)
[11:38] <Gnea> arzhar: awesome
[11:38] <arzhar> it was missing a link like you said
[11:38] <arzhar> thanks for the help
[11:38] <Gnea> cheers
[11:38] <u8untu> i have the same problem
[11:38] <umc> pure_hate: I have created the same user as before, and a ls -al in .ssh gives me the proper user and group for the files
[11:38] <CruelCoke|Pup310> Gnea, i failed to master Oracle VirtualBox
[11:38] <Gnea> CruelCoke|Pup310: well, maybe it's time to do so if wubi isn't doing it right
[11:38] <u8untu> when i try to install ubuntu, it says: "no default or ui configuration directive found"
[11:39] <arzhar> oh, Gnea btw, why i get better fps with linux and quake3 than with windows ?
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> u8untu:  ive had unetbootin fail on be befor.   Had to use a ubuntu system and reinstall syslnux on the pendrive and  double check the config files.
[11:39] <Gnea> CruelCoke|Pup310: can't see how anyone can 'fail' at it - you just install it and use it and learn how it works, so easy
[11:39] <Gnea> anyway
[11:39] <arzhar> isnt 3d supposed to be slower here ?
[11:39] <Gnea> I need sleep, good luck.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> u8untu:  thers some alternatives to unetbootin.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> arzhar:  because the id guys pay attention to linux? :)
[11:39] <u8untu> Dr_Willis it has the same error
[11:39] <pure_hate> umc, I would still try it. The files inside the folder may be owned by root
[11:39] <CruelCoke|Pup310> Gnea, i tried vbox, it errored on booting ubuntu livecd
[11:39] <arzhar> Dr_Willis: te, maybe thats a good answer
[11:40] <arzhar> same for doom3 and other id rubbish :P
[11:40] <arzhar> ye*
[11:40] <CruelCoke|Pup310> ubuntu livecd errored inside the vbox, but it's ok on plain boot
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> arzhar:  i hear they just GPL'd the code for RTCW and RTCW:ET also.
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> arzhar:  ive never played anything past doom3 i think..
[11:41] <tangentcollision> have nvidia and ATI got drivers that work right now?
[11:41] <DasEi> CruelCoke|Pup310: why don't just boot an iso ?
[11:41] <tangentcollision> I should really ask that somewhere else
[11:41] <CruelCoke|Pup310> DasEl, cd is a bottleneck.
[11:41] <u8untu> Dr_Willis isnt there any other option..i really want to get rid of windows and install ubuntu
[11:42] <DasEi> tangentcollision: nvidia has still the better support, though gpl-drivers for newer ati grew up, too
[11:42] <tangentcollision> I'm going to be getting an ATI card reguardless, I just want to know if I am going to fall on a net or a bed of spikes
[11:42] <mgt_90> CruelCoke|Pup310: What was the error? Since VBox virtualises generic hardware, you shouldn't have any problems if you point it to the right disk.
[11:42] <DasEi> CruelCoke|Pup310: is why I tell you to boot from iso (i isn't l in my nick)
[11:43] <DasEi> tangentcollision: which ATI
[11:43] <tangentcollision> HD 5770 I think it is
[11:44] <DasEi> tangentcollision: not same as drivers for windows, but increased and enough for compiz and such
[11:44] <tangentcollision> beh
[11:44] <pietime> why do my media files play jerky when played from a networked drive?
[11:44] <tangentcollision> I could care less about compiz
[11:44] <CruelCoke|Pup310> i'm currently on Puppy Linux 3.10 RUS 1.30, all 'buntus have a major fault with network adjustment
[11:44] <u8untu> Dr_Willis i even tried to make a CD with infrarecorder .. and it gives me error on writing disk
[11:44] <umc> pure_hate: check it out: http://pastebin.com/hawz8Hjb . did a verbose connect attempt. think the problem is with the keys. maybe you have an idea about the first part of the output. I'll start googleing it too
[11:45] <DasEi> tangentcollision: basic graphics are fine with it, unless you need full support of 3d and special effects like bigger games
[11:45] <CruelCoke|Pup310> TangCo~1, compiz is a vistaism and must be gone
[11:45] <tangentcollision> DasEi: I need to be able to run SC2
[11:45] <tangentcollision> :D
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> u8untu:  makes me wonder if the iso file is bad or not. You could order a cd from 'shipit' for free. or other places online. Or you could go to the local bookstore and proberly buy a linux magazine with the cds
[11:45] <mgt_90> tangentcollision: The Catalyst drivers have pretty messy 3D acceleration. It's not pretty.
[11:46] <u8untu> Dr_Willis i live in europe.. romania..they dont have stuff like that
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> u8untu:  they dont have bookstores,, how odd...  Could try Shipit I guess. or try out the cd/iso/usb on other pc;s and see if thats the issue
[11:47] <tangentcollision> Dr_Willis: I live in atlanta and that sounds pretty far fetched
[11:47] <tangentcollision> a store that sells books? what a ridiculous idea
[11:47] <mgt_90> u8untu: Have you tried verifying the iso with the md5?
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  Where else do you get your Manga? :)
[11:47] <mgt_90> Usenet?
[11:47] <CruelCoke|Pup310> default missing is usually a result of plainly unpacking the iso. a planter or a netboot installer (not much difference except planter makes some preparations) is needed
[11:47] <tangentcollision> manga?
[11:47] <pietime> Dr_Willis, i found out what the problem is
[11:47] <tangentcollision> what?
[11:48] <tangentcollision> anime in small, inanimate pictures?
[11:48] <tangentcollision> perposterous
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> pietime:  oh?
[11:48] <tangentcollision> I knew this internet was a waste of time
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  and the books are bound left handed also.. instead of the normal way.
[11:48] <u8untu> mgt_90 how to try it..when i have only windows?
[11:48] <pietime> it only does it with networked media. but it never  did that when both systems were ubuntu. what could be the cause?
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> u8untu:  try it in virtualbox. :)
[11:49] <tangentcollision> WHATCHOO TALKIN BOUT, WILLIS?!?
[11:49] <Dr_Willis>  pietime  networked? No idea. theres dozens and dozens of things that can goof up networking.. :)
[11:49] <u8untu> what is that Dr_Willis :D
[11:49] <oCean_> tangentcollision: please stay on topic, this is not a discussion channel
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> !virtualbox | u8untu
[11:49] <oCean_> tangentcollision: also, don't use caps
[11:49] <CruelCoke|Pup310> missing syslinux configs is ALMOST CERTAINLY a result of plain unpacking
[11:49] <mgt_90> u8untu: You can do it in Windows. Download winMD5Sum and you can verify the ISO in Windows.
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> Ive had unetbootin also mess up befor.. but ive no tused it in ages.
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> THeres other Unetbootin alternatives out for windows also
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> the pendrivelinux web site has dozens of 'install UbuntuXXXXX or whatever to pendrive' scripts and tools also
[11:51] <u8untu> Dr_Willis i an having that error no default or ui configuration directive found ... i dont know that that is :|
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> u8untu:  the syslinux configs are mnessed up
[11:51] <arzhar> Dr_Willis: ill give a try to quake4 too with this antic machine, maybe it will run ok :P
[11:51] <u8untu> Dr_Willis and what shall i do?
[11:52] <CruelCoke|Pup310> u8untu, unetbootin the image to where it already us, will produce one config for you
[11:52] <collabra> I'm laughing at myself,... who knows of a program that records both audio and video from a webcam?
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> u8untu:  check the iso..  try unetbootin again.. try it on other machines..
[11:52] <u8untu> CruelCoke|Pup310 i tried .. and when i restart the pc..it gives me an error: no default or ui configuration directive found
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> u8untu:  try other alternatives to unetbootin...
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> arzhar:  that quakelive that id came out with a few mo back. works in linux also
[11:53] <u8untu> Dr_Willis what alternatives?
[11:53] <CruelCoke|Pup310> u8untu, try unetbootining another iso or find out the kernel image's name and type it
[11:53] <arzhar> Dr_Willis: quakelive ?
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> u8untu:  one of the many listed at the 'pendrivelinux' web site.
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> arzhar:  they redid quake3 so it runs in your browser sort of. :) and enhanced it.
[11:54] <collabra> can anyone give a suggestion or suggestions?
[11:54] <arzhar> Dr_Willis: quake 3 into browser Oo
[11:54] <arzhar> dont think i will like that :P
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> arzhar:  it ran fine.
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> GO try it befor you rant about it
[11:54] <CruelCoke|Pup310> Dr_Willis it's based on java quake that's worse than orig
[11:55] <arzhar> i will
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> CruelCoke|Pup310:  i had no issues with it.. it ran fine for me.. had a blast.
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> quakelive.com
[11:55] <tangentcollision> quakelive is fun, but god the noobs
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  im not a noob.. i just SUCK at the game. :)
[11:56] <CruelCoke|Pup310> well, maybe it's running normally, but...
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> Paint a target on my head...
[11:56] <tangentcollision> I shall
[11:56] <CruelCoke|Pup310> java quake is a simplified version, quakelive is a conversion of that java quake
[11:56] <tangentcollision> mind if it's railgun coloured?
[11:57] <collabra> Dr_Willis: how bout you,... do you have any suggestions for recording webcam video AND audio?,... I feel stupid here.
[11:57] <voobscout> anybody knows how update a package that is being tracked with git? in "debian/watch" it says "We track StumpWM Git revisions, thus no need for a watch file" Usually i do "uscan && uupdate packagename" and it all works
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> collabra:  i saw a new app mentioned at the OMGubuntu web site for that.
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> collabra:  cheese can do it also i thought
[11:57] <oCean_> !afk > u8untu|away
[11:57] <collabra> Dr_Willis: cheese,.. ah, no... unfortunately
[11:58] <collabra> but i will look on omgubuntu
[11:59] <arzhar> Dr_Willis: btw how do you get system specs into terminal
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> I used cheese here to record my grandson :)
[11:59] <arzhar> like cpu, gpu, ram etc ?
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> !info sysinfo
[11:59] <psycho_oreos> arzhar, lshw
[11:59] <arzhar> thanks
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> arzhar:  theres proberly other tools also. cat /proc/cpuinfo :)
[12:00] <hendry> does anyone know how to disable the bullet proof X stuff? I just want to boot to a tty console
[12:01] <voobscout> hendry: sudo service gdm stop, take it out of your runlevel as well if you want to boot text
[12:01] <arzhar> Dr_Willis: what about a like like this
[12:01] <arzhar> Linux 2.4+, Mac OS X 10.3.9+ (PowerPC G5) or Windows 2000/XP, Athlon XP 2000+, Pentium 4 2.0 GHz or G4 1.67 GHz CPU, 512 MB RAM, 2.8 GB hard disk space, sound card, OpenGL compatible 64 MB video card, Radeon 9700 or GeForce 3
[12:01] <arzhar> a line like this*
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> arzhar:  looks like one of many irc sysinfo scripts ive seen over the yers..
[12:02] <arzhar> god, spelling -.-
[12:02] <DasEi> hendry: can remove ubuntu-desktop if headless is what you want or just configure gdm to boot to a commandline
[12:04] <hendry> DasEi: I've removed gdc (rc). is there some other gdm type package at work?
[12:05] <DasEi> hendry: gdm itself
[12:05] <hendry> DasEi: I've removed gdm (rc). is there some other gdm type package at work?
[12:05] <mgt_90> DasEi: Doesn't removing ubuntu-desktop just remove the metapackage?
[12:05] <hendry> voobscout: i can't see gdm in my runlevel, /etc/rc2.d, still it boots into a bullet proof dialog
[12:06] <DasEi> mgt_90: gdm does also want to remove the desktop-meta
[12:06] <DasEi> s*
[12:06] <oCean_> hendry: I guees mv /etc/init/gdm.con /etc/init/gdm.conf.disable should do the trick
[12:07] <oCean_> *guess
[12:07] <hendry> "ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode" is the thing i want to get rid of
[12:07] <DasEi> hendry: there are few login mnanagers, and you can also settle them to what you want, what is your goal ?
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> the kernel/grub 'text' option will disable plymouth and disable any Xdm login manager also. and just get you to a console.
[12:08] <hendry> DasEi: my goal is a tty
[12:08] <DasEi> hendry: with no desktop at all ?
[12:08] <hendry> DasEi: yes
[12:09] <voobscout> hendry: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1477439 - basically you need to edit your gdm.conf
[12:09] <hendry> i prefer to startx by hand
[12:09] <hendry> voobscout: i don't even have gdm installed
[12:09] <mgt_90> hendry: Edit /etc/default/grub and edit GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT by appending "text".
[12:09] <DasEi> hendry: that'll be ubuntu-minimal only, on basic install : sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm ubuntu-desktop
[12:10] <voobscout> hendry: the only way is to tell gdm "start on runlevel []" in gdm.conf
[12:10] <iflema> !nox | hendry
[12:11] <DasEi> hendry: will be cleaner if you use the minimal or alternate installe in expertmode and just install the soft you want, there will always an overhead that way
[12:11] <DasEi> be*
[12:11] <voobscout> who knows how to uupdate a source package from git repo? debian/watch is empty
[12:11] <hendry> aha! it's working now
[12:12] <hendry> i don't know if it was the  mv /etc/init/gdm.con /etc/init/gdm.conf.disable or the text appendage
[12:12] <mgt_90> hendry: Glad to hear you got it working.
[12:12] <hendry> mgt_90: thanks =)
[12:13] <collabra> sorry, Dr_Willis,... chese does work for audio as well as video
[12:14] <collabra> cheese
[12:14] <collabra> der....
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> Cheese needs more silly effects :)
[12:14] <collabra> :)
[12:14] <kish> stupid crap
[12:14] <kish> i shoudlnt havfe installed kubuntu-desktop
[12:14] <kish> now i cant get rid of it
[12:14] <kish> help!
[12:14] <bazhang> !puregnome
[12:15] <kish> awesome
[12:15] <bazhang> kish, see above
[12:15] <kish> i love ubuntu ;)
[12:15] <kish> thanks bazhang :P
[12:15] <bazhang> welcome
[12:15] <mgt_90> kish: Use aptitude in the future. It'll be a lot easier.
[12:15] <kish> mgt_90, aptitude instad of apt-get?
[12:15] <kish> i dont use the software center much
[12:16] <JookieJenkins> Are there any serious differences between apt-get and aptitude?
[12:16] <mgt_90> kish: Yes. If you use aptitude to install a metapackage like Kubuntu, aptitude can remove the metapackage and all of its individual packages as well.
[12:16] <mgt_90> kish: It's a lot more aggressive in tracking dependencies.
[12:17] <sacarlson> good new is I got my usb flash to boot using the "startup disk createor"  in Ubuntu 10.04.  bad news or the question is how do I install a persistent boot on a usb-flash?  I tried two attempts at it and failed.
[12:17] <tangentcollision> 49% done on the testdisk, the tension rises...
[12:17] <kish> well ok
[12:18] <kish> having run aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop shows me 1 package
[12:18] <kish> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 53.2kB will be freed.
[12:18] <kish> heh the link said there should be a large number of packages
[12:18] <mgt_90> kish: It only works if you installed with aptitude as well.
[12:18] <kish> i think i installed it with apt-get
[12:19] <mgt_90> kish: If you used apt-get, you have to remove each package individually.
[12:19] <kish> looks like im gonna make a fresh install
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> kish:  its not very hard to remove them...
[12:20] <kish> Dr_Willis, by hand? individually?!
[12:20] <mgt_90> kish: No real need for that. Some folks gave you a link to a command you ought to be able to just copy and paste.
[12:20] <kish> it sounds difficult to the extreme
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> are you that critical on disk space or somting?
[12:20] <kish> hold on, let me reread that link
[12:21] <mgt_90> kish: It's a really long command, but you can just paste and run.
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> last i checked you removed one or 2 kde packages and  it then let you remove the others.. with a differnt command.
[12:21] <kish> mgt_90, oh, with all the packages? great.
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> I use kde and gnome apps both. so it really dosent matter to me much
[12:21] <mgt_90> kish: Yeap.
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> k3b is to handy to not have installed. :)
[12:24] <hebz0rl> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JSR8IC77Ub4/TGwVWw4sZYI/AAAAAAAAA9g/yhu_nZjlIzM/s1600/d9m38bd_276cvt72tdc_b.png wtf should this be exactly the opposit like the install button under the hdd?
[12:24] <anafall> how to access one linux pc via bluetooth rfcomm
[12:25] <anafall> i mean use another linux pc as a dumb terminal through bluetooth rfcomm with two bt dongles
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> anafall:  hmm.. never seen that done.
[12:26] <oCean_> hebz0rl: what?
[12:26] <kish> all right. it's time to login back in to gnome. thanks everyone (i'll be right back)
[12:26] <lhavelund> OK; so I just did something... bad. I moved my /etc/group file in order to replace it with another. Needless to say, I now have no admin access. Halp?
[12:27] <hebz0rl> oCean_, nevermind someone told me that the left picture is a cdrom drive (i think it looks more like an hdd but ok)
[12:27] <zulax> i think i messed up my resolv.conf file, how can i reset it to default?
[12:27] <oCean_> hebz0rl: ah, ok
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> $ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> # Generated by NetworkManager
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Network manager rewrites mine as it gets new info :)
[12:28] <hebz0rl> oCean_, the logo on the "cd" would really clarify this and it would reflect the logo on the screen on the right if you ask me ^^
[12:28] <anafall> i did that with two bt dongles, but froze the ubuntu os
[12:28] <goxen> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 and it reboots into a blank screen... any clues? this is the amd64 server version.
[12:28] <zulax> Dr_Willis, i have only nameserver 10.42.43.1 right now
[12:28] <goxen> under vmware
[12:28] <zulax> previously i had 3 of them i guess
[12:29] <zulax> Dr_Willis, and maybe because of this, i can use internet with ethernet chord,
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> zulax:  all i got is 3 nameserver listings basially
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> first is my router. other 2 are my isps
[12:30] <zulax> i had them as well, now its just one,
[12:30] <zulax> and after i plug my ethernet chord, nothing gets updated
[12:30] <anafall> wireless bluetooth dumb terminal, no one did this before?
[12:31] <hendry> i have allow-hotplug eth0 in my /etc/network/interfaces but still it doesn't seem to dhcp a IP when i connect a network cable
[12:31] <goxen> anafall: why bluetooth?
[12:31] <ouyes> hi all
[12:32] <anafall> cause i only need a vt100 terminal for another linux pc
[12:32] <ouyes> is there a tool to encrypt my files except truecrypt?
[12:32] <anafall> my own pc has ubuntu lucid installed
[12:32] <hebz0rl> ouyes, try encfs
[12:32] <lhavelund> So, I've removed my /etc/group file, which means I now no longer have sudo access. Can someone tell me how to restore this? Server version of Ubuntu.
[12:33] <anafall> @ouyes, gpg
[12:33] <goxen> I'm dumping 9.10... its a down grade from 9.04
[12:33] <ouyes> hebz0rl, anafall thanks for your response, but are they GUI?
[12:33] <anafall> gpg is commandline
[12:34] <anafall> but shoud has gui frontend, just google it
[12:34] <kish> okay im ba k
[12:34] <hebz0rl> ouyes, encfs has kencfs but didnt try it
[12:34] <kish> i have all those nasty kde programs installed
[12:35] <sacarlson> ouyes: I use some plugin on gedit that encrypts and decypts just one file at a time.  Is that what you want?
[12:35] <ouyes> GUI based and cross-platform(means It works both under ubuntu and windows),
[12:35] <ouyes> sacarlson, nope
[12:36] <hebz0rl> ouyes, encfs is *nix only i think gpg is the way to go then
[12:36] <anafall> who could solve my problem ?
[12:37] <sacarlson> ouyes: wow I see my nautilus can encypt and decrypt too but not sure nautilus runs in windows.
[12:37] <anafall> use my linux pc as a dumb terminal for another linux pc with two bluetooth dongles
[12:37] <anafall> wirelessly
[12:37] <kish> doing apt-get autoremove now, mgt_90
[12:37] <hebz0rl> sacarlson, there should be other guis for windows which use gpg
[12:37] <kish> i still have stuff like okular and konqueror installed
[12:38] <kish> dont like those at all!
[12:38] <sacarlson> ouyes: oh and it's gpg encryption so I guess there would be somekind of windows gui that would work as hebz0rl says.
[12:38] <mgt_90> kish: Keep the faith.
[12:38] <leeping> Hi there, when I hit CTRL+C at a terminal in Lucid (to clear the command line or to quit a program), it prints out "^C" on the screen.  This is undesired behavior as I often cut + paste in the terminal.. can I turn this off somehow?
[12:38] <iocor> how do I create an account which can only do ssh port forwarding and not execute any commands?
[12:39] <Pirate_Hunter> im tyring to delete files that have been saved as tgz in /var/log/, however I only want the tgz files to be deleted and not the current new one, how would I go about doing so using the command line?
[12:39] <lhavelund> !chroot | iocor
[12:39] <lhavelund> iocor: that might be what you want.
[12:39] <ouyes> thanks you guys, I will design mine
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  see if 'ls *.tgz' lists all you want to delete.. and if so 'sudo rm *.tgz'
[12:42] <sacarlson> ouyes: design what?  nautilus not good enuf for you?  ruby has good libs for gpg also if you want some kind of a prototype.
[12:44] <sacarlson> ouyes: and seahorse is the gui to setup the keys.
[12:44] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis, if I for example tried rm denyhosts.* would that delete the current denyhosts file as well as the tgz?
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  Yes.. test  your patterns with 'ls whatever.*' or 'echo whatever.*' first
[12:46] <sinurge> leeping, it takes a bit to get used to
[12:47] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis, thanks
[12:47] <ouyes> sacarlson, I will design and code a tool for myself to encrypt files
[12:47] <sacarlson> ouyes: oh and theres wija  the java cross platform tool for gpg
[12:50] <replman> Hi! I have an ubuntu 10.04 server and would like it to automount usb-devices automatically (into /media?)
[12:50] <sacarlson> replman: seems mine does that by default in 10.04
[12:51] <replman> sacarlson: do you have the server version?
[12:51] <sacarlson> replman: oh but mine is desktop
[12:51] <realubot> Ubuntu's Update Manager sometimes hangs when I click Install. The wheel is rotating but the password dialog window never pops up. Why is doing like this?
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> replman:  check the package manager. I recall there being some automount services you could use. but ive never tried them
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> AUtomounting is handled by gnome or kde services i thought.
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> replman:  you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server also.
[12:52] <replman> Dr_Willis: ah, that might be the reason why the server version doesnt do it
[12:52] <ouyes> sacarlson, thanks
[12:52] <replman> That's a good idea, thank you
[12:52] <DasEi> replman: it's automount,  set /dev/usb to /media in it's conf
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> replman:  yep. I think ther eare some extra serices you can install to do it.
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> !info automount
[12:53] <DasEi> !automount
[12:53] <DasEi> so autofs is packagename
[12:53] <replman> DasEi: in wiki.ubuntuusers.de they say one shouldn't use /media because this directory will be blocked then
[12:54] <sacarlson> replman: I think it's avahi-daemon
[12:54] <DasEi> replman: fo a certain type of mount, like just usb's landing there, but can create any mountpoint you like, like /media/usb
[12:55] <sacarlson> replman: nope I think I'm wrong  let me look again
[12:55] <replman> looks like i have to install the autofs package?
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> !info autofs
[12:59] <replman> now i installed autofs and a process "automount" is running
[13:00] <Laurenceb> hi
[13:01] <Laurenceb> i have an issue with wifi on an acer aspire 5100
[13:01]  * tangentcollision gags
[13:01] <sacarlson> replman: so your happy?  I think I found something.  seems the process is called hald but I can't find the package that installs it.  maybe autofs installed the hald demon
[13:01] <tangentcollision> christ, I just got over telling someone how nasty acer aspires were
[13:02] <replman> just trying...
[13:02] <Laurenceb> its got an Atheros card
[13:02] <sacarlson> replman: otherwise you might need to find what package hald is in
[13:02] <Laurenceb> the wifi works ok if im just using a bit of bandwidth - a few kbps
[13:03] <philinux> tangentcollision: Are they better now
[13:03] <Laurenceb> anything more than that, say a webpage is loading, and it will start going really slow then disconnecting
[13:03] <DasEi> sacarlson: hal is depreciated
[13:03] <Laurenceb> problem repeats a few times then i cant connect at all, only solved by rebooting the machine
[13:04] <Laurenceb> and ideas?
[13:04] <anafall> Hi! How to use one linux pc as a dumb terminal for another linux pc with two bluetooth dongles wirelessly ?
[13:04] <Laurenceb> irc works ok, presumably as its not using a lot of badwidth
[13:05] <sacarlson> DasEi: well it's still installed and running on my ubuntu 10.04.  what replaces it.  and the package I found for hald is hal
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> I thught hal got replaced in 10.04
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> or it was being phased out for the most part
[13:05] <tangentcollision> udev events now control us all!
[13:05] <bogdomania> cheers guys.. i set the sys locale to romanian. the kbd also.. but i get a glitch .. in romanian, the letter t is followed by a t with cedilla ..the point is, the symbol itself is recognized,but diformed..can i custom modify the combination Alt + t to another symbol? i need it while working in openoffice
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> !hal
[13:05] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: with what another package called hal?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> !udev
[13:06] <tangentcollision> +-+ anxiety is killing me! I wish that testdisk was faster :P
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> !info udev
[13:07] <vagvaf> can anyone help me to set up a vpn connection with network manager?
[13:07] <replman> looks like usbmount is what i'm searching for
[13:07] <replman> autofs didn't work adhoc
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> replman:  i think the other can do NFS and samba and other things also -
[13:08] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: ok I see that running on my system also udevd several times
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> adhoc wireless?
[13:08] <megt_19> hi !
[13:10] <megt_19> i want to learn something about linux dists. is it safe for us to use adblock, noscripts add ons for our open-source brosers ?l
[13:10] <tangentcollision> yes
[13:10] <tangentcollision> why would it not be?
[13:10] <oxidkor> hello I have a question - why ubuntu does NOT have the /opt directory in its file system hierarchy?
[13:10] <tangentcollision> !info opt
[13:10] <jay_> could someone familiar with tablets take a look at this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1556698
[13:10] <tangentcollision> you know, I don't know, oxidkor
[13:11] <Flannel> oxidkor: It does
[13:11] <erUSUL> oxidkor: i surely have it
[13:11] <erUSUL> oxidkor: you removed it by mistake?
[13:11] <sacarlson> replman: make sure you have udev installed also.
[13:11] <oxidkor> I am on lucid and I dont see it
[13:11] <anafall> rfcomm
[13:11] <anafall> rfcomm serial console
[13:11] <megt_19>  tangentcollision you told me ?
[13:11] <erUSUL> oxidkor: sudo mkdir /opt/
[13:12] <erUSUL> oxidkor: there i fixed that for you
[13:12] <oxidkor> erUSUL: that way will do?
[13:12] <oxidkor> is that easy?
[13:12] <oxidkor> :)
[13:12] <tangentcollision> megt_19: I told you what?
[13:13] <tangentcollision> pardon if I don't remember much, my mind is still jarred by the notion that I may have lost an entire terrabyte of information
[13:13] <oxidkor> erUSUL: don't I have to have a some kind of system code in order to make that /opt directory recognizable for the system?
[13:13] <megt_19>  tangentcollision:  ok. nothing... i was wrong..
[13:13] <erUSUL> oxidkor: sure ;)
[13:14] <erUSUL> oxidkor: no; it is just a dir like any other of the system
[13:14] <oxidkor> erUSUL: thanks
[13:14] <tyrus> afternoon guys
[13:14] <tyrus> trust you are well
[13:15] <tyrus> i have a small issue on ubuntu 10.04
[13:15] <BromaxSux> hi all
[13:15] <replman> ah, this usbmount is not bad
[13:15] <replman> all i had to do is apt-get install usbmount
[13:15] <MichealH> tyrus: Ask it :)
[13:15] <tyrus> i did an update yesterday and now my sound isnt working for some strange reason
[13:15] <replman> i didn't recognize that it run already after that
[13:15] <MichealH> tyrus: I has happened to me too
[13:15] <replman> but it automatically mounted my usb device
[13:16] <tyrus> really MichaelH
[13:16] <Maletor> How might I be able to set it up so that I can have just grub2 on a USB stick and then boot to a RAID5 in my computer?
[13:16] <tyrus> and my usb devices arent detecting at all
[13:16] <oxidkor> erUSUL: with your way of creating the directories in the fsh, the same method applies to for instance, /mnt because there is no /mnt either?_
[13:16] <tyrus> am really fiddling around but cant find any reasonable solution
[13:16] <realubot> How do I update Ubuntu from Terminal using aptitude safe-upgrade whitout installing ALL updates avaiable? I wnat to get a list of new updates and be able to exclude some of them.
[13:16] <tyrus> my sound icon also disappeared
[13:17] <Techathy> I've got a bit of a sound problem with ubuntu; playing back a simple sine wave in ubuntu with everything in alsamixer maxed out get a -27db signal & in windows I get a -3db signal. Alsa reports the card is an  HDA Intel with a Realtek ALC888 chipset but while I can find people having the same problem I can't find any information on how to increase the audio output.
[13:17] <jrib> how do I disable encryption of home directories/
[13:17] <tyrus> but the funny thing is that with headphones it works great
[13:17] <tyrus> problem is with the external speakers
[13:17] <MichealH> tyrus: Try http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9435887&postcount=4
[13:17] <tyrus> the sound card is detected and everything in dmsg shows that the card is detected
[13:17] <robbit10> Does anyone know of a program that would keep me updated via Google Reader, in the system tray?
[13:18] <oxidkor> erUSUL: sorry /mnt exits
[13:18] <oxidkor> :P
[13:20] <RoyK> hi all. how can I remove an entry from grub2?
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> which entry RoyK ?
[13:21] <Maletor> How might I be able to set it up so that I can have just grub2 on a USB stick and then boot to a RAID5 in my computer?
[13:21] <RoyK> Dr_Willis: this is a laptop with dual boot win7/ubuntu, and grub2 detects a vista partition, which really is a windows install partition, which I do _not_ want to boot from
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> you can install grub2 to a flash drive. and make a custome grub.cfg for it.  But im not sure about how to access the kernelks and boot files from a raid5
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> You could proberly copy all the /boot/ files to the flash drive also
[13:22] <masterjail> Hi, anyone here used foremost anytime?
[13:22] <Maletor> Dr_Willis: When I run the installer could I just select the flash drive as my /boot partition and it should set up grub.cfg correctly?
[13:23] <MichealH> tyrus: Have you tried my link?
[13:23] <MichealH> tyrus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9435887&postcount=
[13:23] <MichealH> *http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9435887&postcount=4
[13:23] <daniel86> hi, I need to disable SMI and I'm afraid that my cpu would overheat, how do I set cpu fan to max speed?
[13:25] <kairoux> bonjour !
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> Maletor:  Hmm.. You could do that.. also at the END of the installer theres a advanced button. Be sure to tell it the proper place for it to install the GRUB mbr to.
[13:27] <Maletor> Dr_Willis: I would be using alternate so that I could set up RAID5.
[13:27] <ectospasm> the quest to get Oracle 11g with SQL Developer installed led me to this:  http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/enterprise-edition/databaseappdev-vm-161299.html
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> RoyK:  i recall some grub2 docs.guides mentiongin how to tweak that. Personally I take the grub.cfg it generated and cut out the windows  parts i DO want and put in /etc/grub.d/40_custome   then disable the 30_osprober so it never tries to add windows back. It juzt iuses my Custome entries.
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> Maletor:  no idea on that then. I dont use raids. and i rarely use the alt..  Why not just make a /boot/ partition thats not on the raid?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> masterjail: i've used it a few times
[13:28] <Maletor> I guess that's the best idea. 3 partitions altogether 100MB /boot 10GB Swap and the rest for root
[13:28] <masterjail> ActionParsnip: did you get to recover what you lost?
[13:29] <Maletor> make the /boot raid1 and the swap raid1
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> masterjail: it was a fat partition so yeah, some images were garbaged but otherwise it was ok
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> Maletor:  i go extreme with /boot/ i keep an iso file there of ubuntu. I then set up Grub2 to 'boot' in an emergancy :)
[13:29] <davidelv> are there any danger involved in using encrypted home?
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> Maletor:  my /boot/ is 2gb :)
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: i'd have a 10Gb root and use the rest for /home
[13:29] <ectospasm> davidelv: if you lose your key (-;
[13:29] <masterjail> ActionParsnip: did you use it with Ubuntu Rescue Remix live cd or which way?
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> davidelv:  dont lose your passkey... and it can be harder to recover if the system gets trashed
[13:29] <Maletor> so 4 partitions?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas folks
[13:30] <ubuntu> I'm trying to recover a Debian Sid system, but I'm forced to use a Ubuntu 9.04 Live CD, as it's the only one I have now, and for some reason I can't chroot. The broken system is amd64 but the CD is i386; might that be the reason?
[13:30] <DGM> Dr_Willis: thats a really nice idea
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> masterjail: just used the livecd, installed foremost from the repo and used it
[13:30] <davidelv> thx.. I guess ill go with encrypted home on my uni laptop
[13:31] <roscogruen> could someone give me the commands to "mount /dev/sda*/ /mnt/mymount/" at start up?  i think it gets put in fstab file but not sure?
[13:31] <roscogruen> and not a link please
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> DGM:  yep. I make a generic 'rescue.iso' entry and a testing.iso entry. i can just take any ubuntu variant. rename theiso. put it in /boot/ and reboot and test it out
[13:31] <ectospasm> davidelv: I keep an encrypted directory, usually no need to encrype everything in /home/<username>  .... I ain't that paranoid
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | roscogruen
[13:31] <roscogruen> i've read 20 links
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> roscogruen:  edit fstab.. have fun..
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> roscogruen:  its not very complex
[13:32] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: why do 4 partitions? in case my root blows up?
[13:32] <ectospasm> roscogruen: I hate to say it, "man fstab"
[13:32] <Dr_Willis>  /dev/whatever /media/mountpoint  options 0 0
[13:32] <ectospasm> roscogruen: and "man mount"
[13:32] <_DGM_> or google for them :)
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: i've never had a seperate /boot partition personally
[13:32] <davidelv> ectospasm: ok maybe not a bad idea, I have all my data in one folder anyways (dropbox)
[13:33] <davidelv> ectospasm: how do you encrypt one folder?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: seperate /home partition makes reinstalls easier and backups easier too
[13:33] <penn> hello
[13:33] <ectospasm> davidelv: ecryptfs will do it for you, automatically
[13:33] <penn> anyone
[13:33] <ectospasm> !ask | penn
[13:33] <Maletor> So you are saying now not to put the /boot on the usb stick
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> penn: you haven't asked a question.
[13:33] <davidelv> ahh easy :)
[13:34] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: If I set it up without a separate /home can I always set it up that way later?
[13:34] <roscogruen> Dr_Willis: is it fstab that i put command to mount this folder?  i want to mount it so samba picks it up
[13:34] <ectospasm> davidelv: don't take my word for it, googel ubuntu ecryptfs to be sure
[13:34] <penn> Mast ask a question here?
[13:34] <ectospasm> roscogruen: /etc/fstab will let you say "mount /mount/point"
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: you can but its a bit messy, there are guides but if you intend to have one later you may as well implement it now
[13:34] <roscogruen> would a firewall keep samba from working?
[13:34] <ectospasm> roscogruen: yep
[13:34] <masterjail> ActionParsnip: i'm using live cd and did "sudo aptitude install foremost" but 0 packages has to be installed... so I think foremost is included with 10.04 version of Ubuntu Rescue Remix... anyway i added universe repo and tried to install again with the same result... then i used foremost like explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Foremost but i get the message "Processing: stdin" and a "|" symbol on the line below and i don't think so
[13:34] <ectospasm> roscogruen: well, possibly
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> penn: this is ubuntu support so you are either here to help or you have a question
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> !info foremost
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> masterjail: it's in the universe repo
[13:36] <jacks__> I get a half gnome-panel, don't understand why this isn't fixed yet
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> roscogruen:  fstab is not commands.. its a database that mount uses.
[13:36] <ibrahim-kasem> Why compressing a file to a zip file doesnt change its size ?
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  not all data is compressable
[13:36] <masterjail> ActionParsnip: I added this repo like explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine#Adding the Universe and Multiverse Repositories, do you think is ok this way?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> masterjail: you don't need pipe characters in the use of foremost
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  what if yo  ZIp a Zip?
[13:36] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, like mp3 song for example ? how can i compress it
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> masterjail: why not run: dpkg -l | grep fore   to se if it's installed?? This would save you a lot of time
[13:37] <ubun7u> is there any other location where apt repositories sources are kept?
[13:37] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, I will try to zip a zip okay
[13:37] <masterjail> ok, i'm going to see
[13:37] <ubun7u> except for /etc/apt/sources.lst
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:   Short answer.. You proberly dont.
[13:37] <roscogruen> ectospasm: so, sudo gedit /etc/fstab/
[13:37] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, probably what ?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  you are proberly not going to compress iot any further.
[13:37] <ubun7u> ?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> ubun7u: you can also have list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[13:38] <philinux> ectospasm: you should use gksudo with gui apps like gedit
[13:38] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, yes you can zip it only once
[13:38] <ubun7u> k
[13:38] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, so is there anything that I can do ?
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  and if you gain no compression.. then what have you gained...
[13:38] <roscogruen> Dr_Willis: and ectospasm i've got fstab up
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  reencode it.. if you wanted to. I dont see the point in even trying.
[13:38] <itsux2bu> ibrahim-kasem, i think you will find that zipping a mp3 files won't save any hard drive space
[13:39] <ubun7u> yes
[13:39] <teliti> Hello. I do have a netbook with a bcm4315 chipset. normally the hardware-driver-installer shows me two drivers: b24 and sta. But this install I only see the sta driver. How do I get the b24 driver? In synaptic I only could find the fwcutter for the b24 driver ...?
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> roscogruen:  read the entries.. learn the layout.. cut/paste and edit to make new entries. :)
[13:39] <ibrahim-kasem> itsux2bu, i want to zip it and email it but like you said the space is still the same
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  sso theres no point in zipping it then.
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> teliti:  does the sta driver not work?
[13:40] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, how can i rencode it please ?
[13:40] <itsux2bu> only reason to zip is if you have several you want to send as a group
[13:40] <teliti> No, sadly not
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> teliti:  i had an odd laptop. that used the sta driver.. but the silly sta module wouldent autoload.. not sure why that was
[13:41] <teliti> It is strange, I always have to install the b24 driver first, after it the sta driver - then it works *g*
[13:41] <itsux2bu> ibrahim-kasem, re-encode an mp3 file?
[13:41] <teliti> only b24 does not work too *g* and only sta the same result hehe
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> teliti:  yea. I had similer issues.. but that laptop is now gone. :)
[13:41] <masterjail> ActionParsnip: I aborted the execution i was doing and got a file named audit.txt (0 bytes) and a lot of directories (named avi, bmp, dll, doc ...) ... I did "dpkg -l | grep fore" and yes, foremost is installed... do you recommend me i try again or what? :S
[13:41] <sacarlson> teliti: I'm not sure this is what you need it's one digit off of your broadcom but I think they have the solution https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/449268
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> masterjail: yes, let it run dude, it'll take HOURS if you are working on a platter based drive
[13:42] <roscogruen> Dr_Willis: are you saying i should understand /etc/fstab or learn it then edit it?  not possible.  and i don't want to do another reinstall b/c i "used my judgement."
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> roscogruen:  you dont want to learn a fundamental aspect of linux?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis>  fstab is rather straight forwar4d in its layout. and configuration
[13:43] <masterjail> ActionParsnip: thanks, i'll try again...
[13:43] <ectospasm> philinux: why are you telling me?  I live dangerously and run vim in a sudo -i shell (-;<
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> There used to be some gui tool for altering the fstab.. but i forget where it even was at.  I do recall it causing more damage then manually editing the fstab
[13:44] <niteye> are there any MSN clients that support the groups feature?, aMSN shows it as a feature on their site but i tried the latest version and it isn't in there
[13:44] <tangentcollision> no data recovered on terrabyte harddrive *anhero*
[13:44] <ectospasm> roscogruen: /etc/fstab isn't difficult.  It's basically a table, with tab-separated fields.
[13:45] <roscogruen> Dr_Willis: i suffered severe brain damage in 2007.  logical thought is very hard anymore
[13:46] <teliti> thx for helping both of you :-)
[13:46] <tyrus> sorry MichaelH
[13:47] <tyrus> i did try the link but in my installation i dont have the said file
[13:47] <adrix> hi
[13:48] <adrix> jest tu ktoś ??
[13:48] <bazhang> !pl
[13:48] <Schmorgluck> yeah, that would be better
[13:48] <adrix> :p
[13:49] <_DGM_> durka
[13:49] <Gulah> hi ppl
[13:49] <ibrahim-kasem_> Gulah, hi
[13:49] <Gulah> I have a problem with booting my computer, can someone help me
[13:49] <Schmorgluck> I'm starting to consider reverting back to Karmic
[13:50] <Gulah> i-ve searched the net but I can-t find a solution
[13:50] <Schmorgluck> describe
[13:50] <Gulah> i get a read error when i boot my pc
[13:50] <Gulah> I also have windows installed
[13:51] <Gulah> "read error"
[13:51] <Gulah> i-m using my computer trough a live-usb
[13:51] <KomiaPoika> hi
[13:51] <KomiaPoika> where is xorg.conf in ubuntu 10.04?
[13:52] <mgt_90> KomiaPoika: There isn't one.
[13:52] <BluesKaj> KomiaPoika, it doesn't exist unless you generate one
[13:53] <Schmorgluck> KomiaPoika, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1428788
[13:53] <tyrus> I dont understand how a simple update can get rid of sound on lucid lynx
[13:53] <tyrus> if i may ask, should i be running pulseaudio or alsa
[13:53] <BluesKaj> KomiaPoika, http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/ubuntu-9-10/xorg-conf-file-create-on-ubuntu-9-10/
[13:53] <tyrus> because none of them seem to solve my issues
[13:53] <Schmorgluck> I feel your pain, tyrus
[13:54] <LinuxGuy2009> Can the alternate CD be used to upgrade any previous installation to the newest, or does it only work with the last previous release only or something?
[13:54] <KomiaPoika> thanks
[13:54] <Gulah> can someone help me_
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> tyrus: pulseaudio runs notop of alsa
[13:54] <tyrus> thanks Schmorgluck
[13:54] <Schmorgluck> I personally am rid of material acceleration since I upgraded to Lucid
[13:54] <tyrus> so how do i resolve this guys?
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> LinuxGuy2009:  I think you can do LTS => LTS  or you have to go from one release to the next... not  'any' to the latest.
[13:54] <tyrus> i have spent all night tweaking with configs and its just a pain
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> tyrus: could try the latest alsa from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/unstable
[13:55] <tyrus> hmmm
[13:55] <LinuxGuy2009> Dr_Willis: Ok I just wanted to check. Thanks.
[13:55] <tyrus> lemme give it a shot ActionParsnip
[13:55] <AcePreshaw> hey i wod likm to report an bug wiw 10.04 my pc is an QC-61
[13:56] <_DGM_> AcePreshaw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> AcePreshaw: ubuntu-bug packagename
[13:56] <AcePreshaw> GOMNE
[13:57] <AcePreshaw> is GONME
[13:57] <_DGM_> gomne? XD
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> i think it needs tobe a bit narrowerd down more then just 'a bug in gnome'
[13:57] <AcePreshaw> yea
[13:58] <Schmorgluck> so, since I upgraded to Lucid, I have no more access to material acceleration
[13:58] <Schmorgluck> it's been months, now
[13:58] <AcePreshaw> is kiled my pc
[13:58] <bazhang> !work | AcePreshaw
[13:59] <Schmorgluck> I told myself it would be fixed eventually, but it's starting to feel a bit long
[13:59] <AcePreshaw> is an ded Gome
[13:59] <_DGM_> my touchscreen has been borked for over a year :P i'm not holding my breath tbh
[14:00] <kish> mgt_90, found a way to remove everything apt-get install kubuntu-desktop installed.
[14:00] <bazhang> AcePreshaw, without some details there is not any help forthcoming
[14:00] <kish> maybe i should share the knowledge
[14:00] <_DGM_> a gnome killed his pc apparently
[14:00] <kish> heh
[14:00] <kish> a gnome bastard
[14:00] <bazhang> kish, watch the language
[14:00] <kish> heh
[14:00] <Schmorgluck> I've found a bug report on launchpad that seemed to be exactly the one I had, but on further checking my symptoms are not exactly the same
[14:00] <_DGM_> heh indeed
[14:01] <Schmorgluck> I'm not sure it's sufficiently different to justify a new bug report
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Schmorgluck: log your bug, if its a duplicate it will be marked as on
[14:02] <Schmorgluck> is there a way to link to the other bug, mentioning they are possibly related?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> *one
[14:02] <AcePreshaw> Installed 10.04 will not load Gnome desktop
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Schmorgluck: not sure, i'd ask in #launchpad
[14:02] <Schmorgluck> good idea
[14:02] <_DGM_> ugh dhcp and ssh dont like eachother xD it keeps telling me the host has changed
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> AcePreshaw: ok, what happens when you log in?
[14:03] <AcePreshaw> is the wallpaer
[14:03] <AcePreshaw> an is dos not load
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> AcePreshaw: if you press ALT+F2 can you run: nautilus
[14:03] <_DGM_> does anybody know a proper way with compiz to have a different background for each workspace? i found a few things that makes me install crap but the desktop cube was ment to support it as i thought.. but it doesnt
[14:04] <bazhang> _DGM_, possible if I recall, the guys in #compiz were talking about it
[14:04] <AcePreshaw> my dads m8 did for me i wanting to bug report it
[14:05] <TiK> question: how do I remove keyrights.. I set skype to boot on startup and got a keyring and have no idea what the password is
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> AcePreshaw:  you need tobe a little more clear. WHat is your native language also? What version of Ubuntu are you using and whats your video card?
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  You want to remove the users keyring/settings and password? theres a file in the home dir.. but i cant recall where its at.
[14:07] <_DGM_> TiK: you set up the keyring password the first time you entered any kind of password and told ubuntu to save it
[14:07] <_DGM_> TiK: for example with wireless lan
[14:07] <TiK> DGM: I never have
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  someone did. :)
[14:07] <_DGM_> it didn't magicly password itself
[14:07] <TiK> it new to me today
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  i find i often just see the dialog and automatically enter my password (thus setting it the first time) out of habbit
[14:08] <TiK> I jsut enternet in password they were wrong so i hit cancle and got in
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> rm ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring
[14:08] <_DGM_> i havent set one at all on my laptop.. its annoying if you have wlan
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> that will reset the keyring.
[14:08] <noob_> I accidently removed the icon for the gnome network manager from the panal, how do I add it to the panal again?
[14:08] <TiK> Dr_Willis: that won
[14:08] <TiK> t mess up anything?
[14:08] <TiK> noob: easy\
[14:08] <_DGM_> TiK: no.. it will "forget" all your saved passwords
[14:08] <TiK> !resetpanels
[14:09] <ursus_> Hello, I would like to use gnomecatalog, but when trying to import from disk, I got error message: "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_icon'
[14:09] <ursus_> "
[14:09] <ursus_> How could I solve this?
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  it erases all saved passwords and stuff stored in the keyring
[14:09] <TiK> Dr_Willis: what about my automatic login
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> ursus_: is there a bug logged for it?
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  that has nothing to do with the keyring
[14:09] <tyrus>  ActionParsnip done
[14:09] <TiK> oh ok
[14:09] <tyrus> do i need to do a reboot
[14:09] <tyrus> ?
[14:10] <tyrus> or just restarting pulseaudio
[14:10] <tyrus> ?
[14:10] <noob_> Tik: I tried that in the terminal but nothing happened
[14:10] <ursus_> ActionParsnip, I see this message when I start the program from terminel
[14:10] <TiK> noob: uhm
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> ursus_: is there a bug logged for it in launchpad?
[14:10] <TiK> noob: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[14:10] <ursus_> I didn't see it.
[14:11] <tangentcollision> okay, so imagine if would a posh country club, where the rich get high and the poor get snubbed, and I don't have a mouse because some junkie stole it, how would I go about my work, like, how would I go about getting mousekeys turned on?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> ursus_: http://bugs.launchpad.net
[14:11] <BluesKaj> _DGM_, delete the lines in ~/.ssh/known_hosts . then ssh into the pc you want to connect and you will be asked if you want a new one, choose yes and you will connect
[14:11] <_DGM_> BluesKaj: thanks but yea i know :) its just annoying to do that every day :P
[14:11] <tangentcollision> I'm asking a serious question
[14:12] <tangentcollision> I don't have a mouse right now, I need mouse keys
[14:12] <ikonia> tangentcollision: then ASK a serious question, instead of talking about junkies
[14:12] <tangentcollision> how do I enable it
[14:12] <BluesKaj> _DGM_, then you must be doin a lot of clean installs ")
[14:12] <ikonia> tangentcollision: what is your question
[14:12] <tangentcollision> how do I enable it
[14:12] <tangentcollision> mouse keys
[14:12] <ikonia> tangentcollision: enable what
[14:12] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, Hi there, can you help with gnome-ppp please I always get the message modem is not responding
[14:12] <ikonia> tangentcollision: what are mouse keys
[14:12] <ursus_> ActionParsnip, no, there isn't
[14:12] <tangentcollision> oh god, really?
[14:12] <_DGM_> BluesKaj: i've done a bunch but its mostly the ip changing :P
[14:13] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: I can certainly try, I'm a little rusty, what's up
[14:13] <iflema> tangentcollision hold shift and press num lock
[14:13] <noob_> TiK: cheers for that
[14:13] <tangentcollision> mousekeys, it's an accessability feature for just such an occasion
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> theres a way to use the numpad as a mouse.. but i cant recall the combo to enable it
[14:13] <tangentcollision> iflema: thank you
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> whats the click keys then ? :)
[14:13] <tangentcollision> christ, it's like you can't have a slight hint of humor
[14:13] <_DGM_> you either buy a mouse or you work in the console
[14:13] <BluesKaj> _DGM_, ever considerd a static IP in the /etc/network/interfaces ?
[14:13] <tangentcollision> Dr_Willis: you mean OSK?
[14:14] <tangentcollision> I haven't found the OSK yet
[14:14] <_DGM_> _DGM_: ye maybe i should. I have on my servers but not on the desktops
[14:14] <bazhang> tangentcollision, this is not the joke channel. #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[14:14] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, I have installed the modem driver on my lucid 10.04 but when i press on connect I get a message saying modem is not responding
[14:14] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: what type of modem is it ?
[14:14] <JameZ7> can someone tell me the name of the the nice menu to make ubuntu like the Mac
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> Hmm  shift + numlock - lets you move pointer with the numpad. but im not sure how you r and l click
[14:14] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, in my laptop modem hp dv6 1045ee
[14:14] <JameZ7> its like picture icons
[14:14] <bazhang> JameZ7, avant window navigator?
[14:15] <abhinav> JameZ7: cairo-dock ?
[14:15] <TiK> hmmm
[14:15] <iflema> Dr_Willis 5 is l 44click
[14:15] <TiK> i don't like this keyring bs
[14:15] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, this is the lspci out put http://pastebin.com/4iyyAjg1
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> ursus_: log a new one then to get it resolved, sounds like a bug to me
[14:15] <_eXeCuTeR> how can i tell ubuntu to open .C files with geany by default? properties of single file doesn't work
[14:15] <iflema> Dr_Willis ins rclick =)
[14:15] <sinurge> when i used jaunty it had a different start up like a progress bar if i need to get that for lucid or maverick how do i get it donw
[14:15] <TiK> also: I had no defual.keyright file
[14:16] <vegombrei> hi i wanna know whats the difference between ubuntu for netbook and desktop? can i install the desktop version on my sont vaio?
[14:16] <ursus_> ActionParsnip, thankst
[14:16] <ibrahim-kasem__> vegombrei, download the desktop edition
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> iflema:  yea sort of thing not a good idea to be testing while in a irc window. :) i almost cut/pasted  40 lines
[14:16] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: I actually can't see a modem in that hardware list, I'm reading on the web that the modem is part of the HD audio controller that does not have linux support
[14:17] <tangentcollision> Dr_Willis: no joking in this channel
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  in th forum thread i saw.. some one else said that
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  i made a joke? never noticed..
[14:17] <bazhang> tangentcollision, let it go
[14:17] <vegombrei> ibrahim-ka is it that the netbook edition is specially designed for laptops only?
[14:18] <lamalex> Can anyone help me access my lucid encrypted home from my maverick partition?
[14:18] <aeon-ltd> vegombrei: yes, thet are the same except the easy trackpad friendly interface on the netbook version
[14:18] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, but linmodems gave me a link to a file and when i use this command in the terminal "sudo agrsm-test" i get a message telling me that modem is detected i will pastebinit
[14:18] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: please do, I'm only going by what I read on the internet, I've got no experience with this actual modem
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> vegombrei:  the main differance is teh default interface.
[14:19] <Cornwall> Hi, My friend has a macbook pro. Out of the box, two finger right-click worked fine but I seem to have messed it up. I don't know what package is affected: can I dpkg-reconfigure something? I've tried reconfiguring xorg synaptics and deleting the xorg.conf file but I can't seem to get it to work.
[14:19] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, please visit this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/481437/
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> vegombrei:  ive used normal versions on netbooks.. and netvook versions on desktop/laptops.  You canhave  the normal ubuntu desktop and netbook interfaces on both if you wanted.
[14:19] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: let me have a read
[14:19] <vegombrei> brb
[14:20] <Cornwall> to add, two-finger tapping works as a right click and scrolling still works
[14:20] <andrew_708476> Is there anyone good with using Ubuntu in here
[14:20] <TiK> Dr_Willis: the password was my shell login.. weird
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  be a bit more exacting in your questions
[14:20] <bazhang> andrew_708476, ask a question
[14:20] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: look at lines 18 - 20 on that paste, that's the key
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  as i mentioned - that dialog pops up and people often just see the term password.. and enter their login password autmatically setting the thing to be their normal password
[14:21] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, I have to give permission  to /dev/ttySAGR' ?
[14:22] <rookfood> does the alt+f1 shortcut to the applications menu work for others in 10.04? it doesn't seem to be working for me
[14:22] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: it's not permission, it's because the module can't be inserted
[14:22] <andrew_708476> can someone do something for me I have tryed myself so manny times but everytime I have tryed it has not downloaded.  If someone can try and download Tor for me for Ubuntu
[14:22] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, and can i fix that please ?
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  there was a Tor wiki page i followed ages ago that worked.. but how are you trying todownload tor?
[14:23] <Cornwall> rookfood: Do you have compiz enabled? It might need specifying
[14:23] <TiK> Dr_Willis: strange eh
[14:23] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: I'm not sure, depends why it can't be inserted
[14:23] <Cornwall> rookfood: the settings manager should have "gnome integration" ticked
[14:23] <andrew_708476> http://www.torproject.org/download-unix.html.en
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  happens to me all the time. :)
[14:23] <andrew_708476> on that web page
[14:24] <TiK> Dr_Willis: no big deal now that I know the password
[14:24] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tor andrew_708476
[14:24] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, thank you very much I will contact linmodems and see what i can do
[14:24] <andrew_708476> thanks
[14:24] <rookfood> Cornwall: actually, this reminds me that i'm using  xfwm4 and its compositor. i imagine i'll need to find a solution through that.
[14:25] <bazhang> andrew_708476, welcome
[14:25] <Cornwall> rookfood: Oh, well my xfce experience is much less so than Gnomes :). Sorry!
[14:25] <andrew_708476> nope it wont download
[14:25] <rookfood> Cornwall: np! thanks a lot for helping me to clarify the nature of my issue.
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  you added the repo line to your surces.list ? and updated the listing? -->  deb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org lucid main
[14:26] <andrew_708476> no
[14:26] <bazhang> andrew_708476, you have to add the repo
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  then you need to reread and follow the directions
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> in /etc/apt/sources.list add line  at bottom ---> deb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org lucid main
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> If you are using 10.04 that is...
[14:27] <andrew_708476> but wihich one should I download
[14:27] <andrew_708476> for Ubuntu
[14:27] <bazhang> andrew_708476, read the link please
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  you add the line to the repos listing file.. Update the listing.. then sudo apt-get install tor
[14:28] <Ardin> so, looking into getting a new laptop. which is better on ubuntu, intel graphics or new ati graphics.
[14:28] <bazhang> andrew_708476, what version of Ubuntu; the instructions are quite clear
[14:28] <IdleOne> andrew_708476: adding deb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org lucid main to your /etc/sources.list is what tells ubuntu where to go and download the package, in this case the tor package.
[14:29] <KomiaPoika> which port in /dev is the serial port?
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> KomiaPoika:  /dev/ttyS# where # is often 1 through 4
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> unless you got other specia serial devices
[14:30] <blazer1980> Why does the gnome look on the login screen change when you do "Switch user" in Ubuntu 10.4?
[14:30] <andrew_708476> you go to download it and it takes you to another page and the repeats it over and over again
[14:30] <bazhang> andrew_708476, did you check the link?
[14:30] <andrew_708476> yes
[14:30] <logan_wolf> hey guys
[14:30] <logan_wolf> I have a problem
[14:30] <bazhang> andrew_708476, several people have already told you exactly what to do
[14:31] <logan_wolf> I am running lucid on my box
[14:31] <logan_wolf> and I am not able to mount my externat drive
[14:31] <logan_wolf> what could be the issue
[14:31] <logan_wolf> ???
[14:31] <andrew_708476> well I have Schizophrenia and sometimes need a bit more help
[14:32] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tor andrew_708476
[14:32] <bazhang> andrew_708476, take your time and read that link
[14:32] <KomiaPoika> Dr_Willis: thx
[14:33] <blazer1980> Why does the gnome look on the login screen change when you do "Switch user" in Ubuntu 10.4?	
[14:33] <TiK> logan_wolf: it doesnt auto mount?
[14:33] <oliver_> i installed vlc 1.1.3 today and i cannot use opengl so it's not so good quality
[14:33] <oliver_> help
[14:33] <bazhang> oliver_, installed from where and how
[14:33] <logan_wolf> TiK, No man
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  you DONT directly download tor from that site.. You enable the repository and use teh package manager to install it.
[14:33] <TiK> oliver_: opengl has to be supporter by your videocard
[14:34] <logan_wolf> TiK, there is no change
[14:34] <TiK> logan_wolf: interesting...
[14:34] <oliver_> TIK: in vlc 1.0 it's work
[14:34] <logan_wolf> TiK, I think the drive is dead
[14:34] <andrew_708476> this is the link it take me to http://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en but it keeps on go and repeating its self again and again
[14:34] <bazhang> oliver_, and you installed it from where? how?
[14:34] <logan_wolf> TiK, what do you suggest
[14:34] <bazhang> andrew_708476, not that link
[14:34] <oliver_> bazhang: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vlc-1-1-3-in-ubuntu-10-049-10.html
[14:34] <TiK> logan_wolf: try maually mounting it mount -t ntfs /dev/sd?? /media/external
[14:35] <bazhang> oliver_, from source? PPA? where
[14:35] <TiK> i dunno which sd it is
[14:35] <oliver_> bazhang: PPA
[14:35] <logan_wolf> TiK, hmmm I think that could be an option
[14:36] <bazhang> oliver_, you contacted the PPA maintainer? those are totally at your own risk, you realize
[14:36] <bazhang> oliver_, if 1.0 worked why go outside normal package management?
[14:37] <Skaag> Hello! :)
[14:37] <aeon-ltd> hi
[14:37] <blazer1980> Hello, can anyone please help me?
[14:37] <blazer1980> Why does the gnome look on the login screen change when you do "Switch user" in Ubuntu 10.4?	
[14:37] <aeon-ltd> blazer1980: different prefs for each user
[14:37] <oliver_> bazhang: vlc 1.1.3 can use the GPU
[14:38] <bazhang> oliver_, you said it did not work.
[14:38] <blazer1980> aeon-ltd: I only have one user setup
[14:38] <bazhang> oliver_, try to contact the PPA maintainer
[14:38] <andrew_708476> bazhang  sorry if I ask to much but can you get the web address on the actual page that you can download on please
[14:38] <Oer> oliver, vlc 1.1.3 is not suitable for kernel < 2.6.34 ??
[14:38] <lds> what ppa?
[14:38] <oliver_> bazhang: alright, thx :)
[14:38] <bazhang> andrew_708476, its not a web download page
[14:38] <rotham> How can I create a script that will reinstall all of the software I want after I reformat  and upgrade to 10.x?
[14:39] <rotham> or what can I do to achieve the same effect...?
[14:39] <blazer1980> aeon-ltd: can I make it the same look as when I login when the computer boots?
[14:39] <bazhang> !clone | rotham
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> Tor install notes --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/481446/
[14:39] <rotham> o snap awesome
[14:39] <rotham> !automate
[14:39] <andrew_708476> I've got Tor on windows and I want to put it on Ubuntu
[14:39] <rotham> o sorry for doing that in channel
[14:39] <BluesKaj> rotham, why reformat, whynot just upgrade ?
[14:39] <aeon-ltd> blazer1980: not sure but it should be in a config file somewhere, prob in /etc/gdm
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  so follow the directions at the page.. and check out the notes i just posted
[14:40] <bazhang> andrew_708476, add the repos to your sources.list as described in the link
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476: Tor install notes --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/481446/
[14:40] <ouyes> hi all when I was playing a move ,there was a warn saying "you are using an old version of mplayer ......",  what is that? how to update to the lastest one?
[14:40] <ouyes> movie
[14:40] <rotham> i have ubuntu installed inside windows
[14:40] <rotham> and the windows install is totally broken
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> ouyes:  proberly not worth worrying about
[14:40] <rotham> i have to reformat anyway
[14:40] <andrew_708476> whats the sources list
[14:40] <Vigo_> rotham: clone is the answer, I also suggest a backup before making any changes that are system wide or affect the kernel.
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  it may be time to learn some ubuntu basics befor you go messing with TOR.
[14:41] <bazhang> andrew_708476, did you read the notes link just given to you?
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> !manual | andrew_708476
[14:41] <blazer1980> aeon-ltd: thanks. let me try that
[14:41] <bazhang> andrew_708476, reading the provided links is a must
[14:41] <ouyes> Dr_Willis, maybe
[14:41] <rotham> yeah... im reformatting the whole system
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> bazhang:  i dont think i made any mistakes in the notes. :)  i may of missed a comment # :P
[14:42] <bazhang> Dr_Willis, if he does not read the notes, not sure how he will progress this
[14:42] <Vigo_> rotham: *nix only or a dual boot?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> !who | rotham
[14:42] <bazhang> or the other links even
[14:42] <GrimmVarg> hey guys, any lucky baserds who have managed to get this gpu working under ubuntu ? A0751h-52Bk
[14:42] <bazhang> GrimmVarg, language please
[14:42] <mikebeecham_> hi guys...does anyone know what font is used for "Ubuntu - Linux for Human beings"?
[14:42] <mikebeecham_> or is there an art channel?
[14:43] <bazhang> #ubuntu-artwork
[14:43] <ikonia> mikebeecham_: #ubuntu-artwork maybe ?
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> mikebeecham_:  there an Ubuntu font :) in the works
[14:43] <lds> where are you from
[14:43] <rotham> Vigo_ : I dunno... dual boot would be cool but Ive never done it and need to do something fast.. bunch of deadlines coming up
[14:43] <GrimmVarg> bazhang: I respectfully ignore your request
[14:43] <rotham> Vigo_  How hard is it to setup dual boot
[14:43] <BluesKaj> !dualboot  | rotham
[14:43] <Vigo_> rotham: Is easy'ish
[14:44] <IdleOne> GrimmVarg: ignoring the request to watch your language is not advisable
[14:44] <Vigo_> !dual boot | rotham
[14:44] <rotham> will photoshop run with Wine?
[14:44] <Vigo_> !dualboot | rotham
[14:44] <rotham> cs4
[14:44] <ibrahim-kasem__> Vigo_, BluesKajthe bot is having a nap hahaha
[14:44] <GrimmVarg> i said, basterd. It meand a man who has an unknow father, what is this, the christain society  or something
[14:44] <GrimmVarg> fuck this
[14:45] <BluesKaj> ibrahim-kasem__, too many cooks :)
[14:45] <Vigo_> sleepy time for the space bot....
[14:45] <Maletor> I need help removing my LVM while preserving my data. Since I can't unmount /var I've booted into the Live CD. Where do I proceed from here?
[14:45] <tyrus> ok guys am back
[14:46] <mikebeecham_> lds, who? me?
[14:46] <tyrus> installed the ppa unstable version of pulseaudio
[14:46] <tyrus> but there is still no sound
[14:46] <ikonia> tyrus: the PPA version is not supported here
[14:46] <tyrus> why is it so difficult to get sound on ubuntu in this day and age
[14:46] <tyrus> well someone suggested i try it
[14:46] <ikonia> tyrus: you need to make sure you have a card that is well supported it
[14:46] <ikonia> tyrus: if I tell you to jump off a bridge would you do it ?
[14:46] <ikonia> tyrus: need to make sure you verify the instructions you are doing
[14:47] <tyrus> :(
[14:47] <tyrus> no ikonia i wont
[14:47] <creat0r>  There is something similar to dreamweaver in linux (ubuntu)?
[14:47] <tyrus> here are my details
[14:47] <tyrus> ikonia, am running lucid lynx
[14:47] <bazhang> creat0r, aptana studio
[14:47] <tyrus> on a hp 620
[14:47] <ikonia> creat0r: web dev tools (in my view) are lacking in Linux in general, there are some though
[14:47] <TiK> question
[14:47] <tyrus> i had sound until yesterday when i run an update which included a kernel upgrade
[14:48] <tyrus> upon reboot no sound :(
[14:48] <ikonia> tyrus: ok, so the correct thing to do would be log a bug against that kernel upgrade
[14:48] <TiK> question: how do  play MMS1 and MMS2 videos in ubuntu?
[14:48] <Dr_Willis> reboot back to the old kernel?
[14:48] <ikonia> tyrus: you've voided the debugging using PPA's
[14:48] <Vigo_> creat0r: There are many many programs that are *nix that work fine.
[14:48] <tyrus> hmm.....
[14:49] <tyrus> spilt milk it looks like it...though i must admit even when i did a fresh installation of the same
[14:49] <ubuntu> how do i install ati drivers at xcrash? i am in live system now, but my new ubuntu install crashes when i reboot
[14:49] <tyrus> i had to really struggle to get sound up and running
[14:49] <tyrus> which wasnt the case previously
[14:49] <creat0r> Vigo: like what give just 3 ? :S
[14:49] <ikonia> tyrus: it all depends on how well your hardware is supported by linux
[14:49] <ikonia> tyrus: that's the underlying truth of most base issues
[14:50] <tyrus> ikonia:are you saying HP isnt ideally supported by ubuntu?
[14:50] <ubuntu> my ati video card crashes at boot. live system works fine. can someone help me get this going?
[14:50] <ikonia> tyrus: HP isn't a hardware model, check the sound card model/make/chipset
[14:50] <Vigo_> creat0r: http://directory.fsf.org/category/web/ :> alot more than three.
[14:51] <ubuntu> ati hardware help please
[14:51] <tyrus> Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[14:51] <_ting_> Hi
[14:51] <tyrus> ikonia thats the soundcard as per lspci -vv
[14:51] <ikonia> !ati | ubuntu
[14:51] <Maletor> How do I chroot from a live cd to my computer? sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 just hangs.....
[14:51] <ikonia> tyrus: intel devices are normally quite well supported, some the HD audio devices aren't properly in the kernel yet though
[14:51] <ubuntu> ikonia, that doesnt help. ive been there
[14:52] <ikonia> ubuntu: you didn't ask a question so I can't give better help
[14:52] <ubuntu> i did
[14:52] <nobuy> if you buy a intel cpu with a built-in gpu, you will get screwed too
[14:52] <ubuntu> ikonia, i did, noone was paying attention
[14:52] <tyrus> ikonia:thats the thing all am asking how to get basic sound on this machine
[14:52] <nobuy> the kernel is too old
[14:52] <ikonia> ubuntu: you just said "ati help"
[14:52] <ikonia> nobuy: no you won't
[14:52] <ubuntu> ikonia, look above that
[14:52] <nobuy> hahaha
[14:52] <_ting_> could anyone help me? I had the ubuntu 9.04 and my hdmi audio was working properlly but a few weeks ago i updated my system to the ubuntu 10, and now i dont know how to make my hdmi audio working
[14:52] <tyrus> _ting_ am also having the same issue here
[14:53] <_ting_> i tried to follow several solution but none of them work for me
[14:53] <tyrus> though mine involves basic sound
[14:53] <ikonia> tyrus: I fully understand what you're saying, but you need to do a little research on the card make/model and it's support
[14:53] <ikonia> tyrus: the fact that you've had it working is a very good sign
[14:53] <TiK> question: how do  play MMS1 and MMS2 videos in ubuntu?
[14:53] <dr0id> a VPS with 386mb memory, is that cool enough to support lots of traffic, and DB operations?
[14:53] <tyrus> ikonia:thats the point...unless in between the update something changed
[14:53] <ikonia> dr0id: thats just a ram figure, that means nothing
[14:53] <ikonia> tyrus: it does change - that's what a new kernel is, a change
[14:53] <u8untu> Dr_Willis i tried everything..but i can`t boot from usb .. and i dont have any cd..cuz the burning wizard has broke the cd`s..how could i install ubuntu instead of windows
[14:53] <dr0id> ikonia: I see..
[14:53] <_ting_> tyrus, any luck ?
[14:53] <dr0id> how do I select a good VPS for me then ?
[14:53] <rotham> hey... im trying to install Wine and when it tries to setup the "ttf-mscorefonts-installer (3.0)" I get "Error parsing proxy URL http://:8080/: Invalid host name." message... whats this about?
[14:53] <tyrus> none _ting_
[14:54] <ubuntu> ati problem: boots and runs x fine in live system, but does not run with me booting off of my hard drive. fglrx is not loaded is the error. help please
[14:54] <dr0id> my website will have lots of traffc, and DB operations...
[14:54] <ikonia> dr0id: you work out what resources is needed to suport your requirements, then buy the kit that is needed
[14:54] <dr0id> and quite a few intense cron jobs
[14:54] <tyrus> lemme run and do some research on this particular image and see if anyone else is whining as loudly as I am :)
[14:54] <ikonia> tyrus: I'm having a little look myself while talking to you
[14:54] <tyrus> thanks ikonia for your time...should be back in a while with some findings....hopefully
[14:54] <logan_wolf> can anyone tell me how would i recognize which entry is for my pen drive under /dev
[14:55] <ikonia> tyrus: check back later, I'm just doing a little research too
[14:55] <tortoise7> booting from the burned cd, i get the welcome screen, language, then the try without installing, install, check disc etc,,,,,,, no install and install choices just hang.
[14:55] <tyrus> thanks ikonia
[14:55] <_ting_> I run the aslamixer and look there for the sourd cards, i see the HDA Nvdia, but when i try to select it, i got this msg: "This sound device does not have any controls"
[14:56] <u8untu> so i can`t install Ubuntu instead of Windows..i got this error: "no default or ui configuration directive found" .. i tried to make a boot cd and usb stick
[14:56] <andrew_708476> has anyone got ubuntu on there system that they have put tor on it
[14:56] <ubuntu> ati problem: boots and runs x fine in live system, but does not run with me booting off of my hard drive. fglrx is not loaded is the error. help please
[14:57] <bazhang> andrew_708476, using those links given to you? you read them all , correct?
[14:57] <tortoise7> should the *amd64.iso actaully burn as *i386.iso?
[14:57] <Vigo_> andrew_708476: Yes I have, my ISP does not support it or something, am still working on that.
[14:58] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tor andrew_708476
[14:58] <andrew_708476> yes I've read that
[14:58] <bazhang> andrew_708476, and added the repos?
[14:58] <ikonia> andrew_708476: ok, so what's the issue
[14:58] <u8untu> so i can`t install Ubuntu instead of Windows..i got this error: "no default or ui configuration directive found" .. i tried to make a boot cd and usb stick
[14:58] <alex_45> hello ubuntu :)
[14:58] <bazhang> tortoise7, no, one is 64bit the other is 32bit
[14:59] <andrew_708476> #  Configuration lines consist of an initial keyword followed by a
[14:59] <andrew_708476> #  list of values, all separated by whitespace (any number of spaces
[14:59] <andrew_708476> #  or tabs). For example,
[14:59] <andrew_708476> #
[14:59] <andrew_708476> #  actionsfile default.action
[14:59] <FloodBot3> andrew_708476: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:59] <andrew_708476> #
[14:59] <andrew_708476> #  Indicates that the actionsfile is named 'default.action'.
[14:59] <ustudionoob> Would this be the appropriate channel to ask how I can tell if my firewire card is being recognized?
[14:59] <nobuy> lspci
[14:59] <TiK> hmmmm
[14:59] <Mike> ok i need some big help here please
[14:59] <Vigo_> !pastebin | andrew_708476
[14:59] <TiK> question: how do  play MMS1 and MMS2 videos in ubuntu?
[14:59] <Guest20682> i had ubuntu and windows installed
[15:00] <Guest20682> then i installed windows 7
[15:00] <Guest20682> no more linux boot mbr
[15:00] <ikonia> !grub2 > Guest20682
[15:00] <dr0id> can you guys recommend me some good and cheap hosts?
[15:00] <Vigo_> !grub
[15:00] <Guest20682> and i tried to fix it and i made it all woese
[15:00] <nobuy> in fact, ubuntu 10.04 lts can detect all components of my new rig. i am so lucky.
[15:00] <tortoise7> bazbang: yes, the point is, I d/l the amd64 iso.... burned it... the result is a i386.iso..... thoughts on how this happened?
[15:00] <ikonia> Guest20682: check the link in the pm from ubottu
[15:01] <alex_45> does someon know how i configure my touchpad (eee pc) with lucid? i want it to be disabled when im typing, and the Fn-Key not work
[15:01] <frankely> how can i locate my partitions ?
[15:01] <bazhang> tortoise7, thats not possible
[15:01] <frankely> how can i locate my hard disk partitions ?
[15:01] <Guest20682> what i need to know is i am trying to fix it by editiiung the partition
[15:01] <Vigo_> !grub | Guest20682
[15:01] <Guest20682> i think in eed to know the mount point
[15:01] <bazhang> Guest20682, grub2 wiki is what you need to check
[15:02] <ikonia> Guest20682: READ the url ubottu sent you
[15:02] <bazhang> Vigo_, grub2 not grub
[15:02] <nobuy> hehe
[15:02] <bazhang> nobuy, ??
[15:02] <Vigo_> Okee dokee
[15:02] <nobuy> it's a trap!
[15:02] <bazhang> nobuy, stop that
[15:02] <ikonia> nobuy: no it's not
[15:02] <Guest20682> hmm ok
[15:02] <fidelix> What are the best Download Managers in your opinion?
[15:02] <ikonia> nobuy: stop giving out missleading information
[15:02] <Guest20682> right now i can not even boot the system
[15:03] <ikonia> Guest20682: read the URL from ubottu
[15:03] <Guest20682> just tried to do something different
[15:03] <Vigo_> Guest20682: Have you tried a LiveCD?
[15:03] <Guest20682> i had tirdd that and it did not work
[15:03] <Guest20682> maybe there was an issie and need to start this all over
[15:03] <ikonia> Guest20682: READ the url ubottu sent you
[15:03] <alex_45> does someone know how i configure my touchpad (eee pc) with lucid? i want it to be disabled when im typing, and the Fn-Key of course does not work
[15:04] <Guest20682> ok well what can i loose by trying this all over again
[15:04] <Vigo_> Guest20682: What the bot said is the answer, I think.
[15:04] <Guest20682> yet again
[15:04] <erUSUL> !eeepc
[15:04] <alex_45> meh, thanks
[15:04] <spazmi> why do I get the following errors on my Torrentflux installation? - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/554kXGK9
[15:04] <nobuy> iirc, eeepc and thinkpad have their own sites
[15:04] <tyrus> ikonia any luck?
[15:04] <ikonia> tyrus: still reading, LOTS of info
[15:04] <ikonia> tyrus: it looks like it's the output mode thats the issue
[15:05] <Guest20682> will grub2 also fix my windwos mbr too
[15:05] <ibrahim-kasem__> !hp
[15:05] <ikonia> tyrus: eg: if your trying to (or it thinks trying to output) to hdmi that's not got good support
[15:05] <tyrus> exactly
[15:05] <Guest20682> since i am dual booting
[15:05] <ikonia> tyrus: I'm not quite there yet
[15:05] <ikonia> Guest20682: your windows bootloader is fine
[15:05] <lontra> hi is the way to watch html 5 with google chrome/chromium ... to install chrome or can you chromium?
[15:05] <kish> firefox lost all its subpixel smoothing
[15:05] <tbaur> sup
[15:05] <tyrus> though am not at HDMI  yet
[15:05] <Guest20682> hmm it is
[15:05] <ikonia> tyrus: it may think you are though
[15:05] <Guest20682> too bad it is not loading windows
[15:05] <tyrus> ikonia:just basic sound
[15:05] <lontra> i can't get it to work with chromium only with chrome
[15:05] <Oer> ibrahim-kasem__,  HP is good supported :-)
[15:05] <maxpopols> anyone with e-payment system?
[15:05] <erUSUL> spazmi: do not look like serious errors. it looks like the program uses deprecated php functions that's why there are complaints.
[15:05] <ustudionoob> question: How can I tell what hardware has been recognized and is properly working?
[15:05] <ikonia> tyrus: there is no such thing as basic and advanced sound
[15:05] <tyrus> ikonia funny thing is that the headphones work perfect
[15:06] <ibrahim-kasem__> Oer, yes but I am having problems with using my modem
[15:06] <tbaur> I'll find out
[15:06] <ikonia> tyrus: they are off a different output
[15:06] <ikonia> tyrus: it sounds like it thinks it's trying to go out of hdmi
[15:06] <tyrus> hmm
[15:06] <ibrahim-kasem__> Oer, in my country 98% of users are using dial up connection
[15:07] <nobuy> then the crappy olpc is for your people
[15:07] <nobuy> or eeepc
[15:07] <_DGM_> whats wrong with eee pc
[15:07] <ikonia> nobuy: what are you talking about
[15:08] <tyrus> ikonia: now thats really interesting because i dont even have HDMI output yet
[15:08] <ikonia> tyrus: yet ? you either have a hdmi socket or you don't
[15:08] <tyrus> yeah but how about the external speakers..
[15:09] <arvind_khadri> hi, I needed some help with installing jffnms
[15:09] <ikonia> tyrus: what about them ?
[15:09] <Mavrik-> um, how do I get grub menu on Ubuntu Server 10.04 installation?
[15:09] <ZykoticK9> Mavrik-, hold shift down as computer starts
[15:09] <erUSUL> Mavrik-: press shift during boot
[15:10] <Mavrik-> tried that and it just goes straight to booting kernel and hanging
[15:10] <Mike5683> ok i need a nice walk through I tried to boot my computer system  says no boot device  available
[15:10] <Mavrik-> does it support USB keyboardS?
[15:10] <tyrus> ikonia:ok step by step
[15:11] <Mike5683> i tried to mess wiht it and it is not screwed up
[15:11] <lontra> hi ... i am running ubuntu 10.04 ... i have a quick question. can chromium watch html 5 videos on say youtube or do i need chrome? i noticed that with the same version number installed that only chrome can ... is this true?
[15:11] <ikonia> tyrus: ???
[15:11] <tyrus> ikonia:what you are saying is that my installation is trying to output to hdmi
[15:11] <erUSUL> Mavrik-: it should but i dunno for sure,
[15:11] <tyrus> ikonia:from the sound preferences i have specifically chosen analog output
[15:11] <ikonia> tyrus: I'm saying there is a possability it thinks you want it to output to hdmi - which does not have good support at this time
[15:11] <erUSUL> lontra: my chromium works just fine
[15:11] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL, just FYI but you and duffyduck where correct - AAC does work with Medibuntu on Lucid - thanks (it was from yesterday)
[15:11] <Mike5683> i am trying to dual boot and ended up breaking both mbr's and system will not boot at all
[15:12] <erUSUL> ZykoticK9: no problem; glad you worked it out
[15:12] <tyrus> ikonia:so am abit lost when it tries to select hdmi yet thats not the default selection
[15:12] <lontra> erUSUL: 32 bit or 64 bit? do you have any thing extra installed re: codecs?
[15:12] <lontra> erUSUL: i can only get html 5 to play with chrome not chromium
[15:12] <ikonia> tyrus: that's half the problem it maybe overriding what you are setting
[15:12] <ikonia> tyrus: I had a the opposite problem setting up hdmi sound on my dell
[15:13] <tyrus> ikonia:do tell how did you sort it out?
[15:13] <ikonia> tyrus: lot of effort hardcoding/pushing options, but that's a different chipset, hence why I'm researching yours
[15:13] <erUSUL> lontra: 64 bits. the cromium daily ppa ships the libvpx lib
[15:14] <lontra> erUSUL: are you the -stable, -beta, or -dev channel?
[15:14] <Mike5683> can i get some guidance please ?
[15:14] <arvind_khadri> Hi, I am having trouble with installing jffnms. I am not able to reach it from localhost.
[15:14] <tyrus> ikonia:i do appreciate the effort
[15:14] <tyrus> ikonia:i really dont want to believe its an issue with pulse audio or alsa
[15:14] <ikonia> tyrus: give it time, there is a lot of information (mostly nonsense) on it on the web
[15:15] <erUSUL> lontra: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu lucid main <<< this
[15:15] <Mike5683> i am totally new to ubuntu and found lots of ways to mess it up
[15:15] <ikonia> tyrus: it could be a genuine issue (hence logging a bug against the update)
[15:15] <Mike5683> ok what is the best way to fix this ?
[15:16] <lontra> erUSUL: ah that's the real cutting edge ;)
[15:16] <lontra> erUSUL: i'll check it out ... i'd prefer to run chromium than chrome
[15:17] <IdleOne> Mike5683: you installed ubuntu 10.04 then installed windows 7?
[15:17] <Mike5683> i have severe attention deficit disorder and any help would be great
[15:17] <Mike5683> i installed the  ubuntu
[15:17] <Mike5683> had a win xp side by side
[15:17] <Mike5683> then i installed win 7
[15:17] <ikonia> Mike5683: I told you what to do
[15:17] <ikonia> !grub2 > Mike5683
[15:17] <Mike5683> and then tried to fix it doing different things
[15:18] <Mike5683> then i soooo messed it all up even woese then ya think
[15:18] <ikonia> Mike5683: you've been told under the other guest nickname you where using
[15:18] <IdleOne> !grub2 | Mike5683 see section 11 on this page
[15:18] <Mike5683> ok can i boot using grub 2
[15:18] <ikonia> Mike5683: you've been TOLD
[15:18] <ikonia> Mike5683: stop messing around
[15:18] <bazhang> Mike5683, once you read the the link and fix it yes
[15:18] <erUSUL> lontra: webm and html5 video support was introduced lon ago
[15:18] <IdleOne> Mike5683: yes, if you go to the site provided above and follow the instructions
[15:18] <Mike5683> ok sorry
[15:19] <Mike5683> i am not tyingh to mess around
[15:19] <Mike5683> i just t4ried some of the grub stuff and go no where
[15:19] <ikonia> Mike5683: you've been given the link which walks you through fixing it
[15:19] <ikonia> Mike5683: follow it, and stop repeating the same question, with the same blurb after it
[15:19] <Mike5683> i am on my laptop as i can not use my desktop
[15:19] <lontra> erUSUL: ok i'll check it out ... you know you're running version pre-7 and there isn't even a 6 yet right ;)
[15:19] <ikonia> Mike5683: that has no relevence
[15:19] <Mike5683> ok
[15:19] <jimlovell777> I've been using Firestarter for years with not much trouble but twice something has happened where certain sites don't load until I disable it. The confusing part is I changed nothing in my settings before the sites stopped loading. On both occasions the issue didn't disappear until I re-installed Ubuntu (I like clean upgrades). Any ideas?
[15:19] <ikonia> Mike5683: follow the link, if you have problems with the link, ask specific questions
[15:19] <felicity> hey all! someone with conky rings please share your conky configs and the files, i keep trying to get it to work, but no joy :(
[15:20] <Mike5683> all right will go and follow it
[15:20] <Mike5683> and then go from there
[15:20] <Sven-Linux> im having trouble whit my Ubuntu 9.10 my son did add ubuntu 10.04 sources in my /etc/apt.sources.list and then did a upgrade.. unfortunatly i dont have any X now :S
[15:20] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: that's not how you upgrade
[15:20] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: I would suggest a clean install now as your system will be in an unknown state
[15:20] <Sven-Linux> so everytime i boot my Laptop, i just have a terminal login, No GDM or no X how can i fix this ?
[15:21] <Sven-Linux> is it possible to do a system recovery in any way ?
[15:21] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: no
[15:21] <erUSUL> lontra: 7.0.501.0 (56965) Ubuntu 10.04 <<< ;P
[15:21] <Sven-Linux> is it possible to do anything whit X ?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> Sven-Linux:  if you do 'startx' from the terminak after you login.. does X work?
[15:21] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: your system is in an unknown state, I would strongly suggest a clean install
[15:21] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: your system is in an unknown state as you've done an upgrade wrong
[15:21] <DrumHead> Does anyone have any experience with JACK?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> Eww mess uped upgrade... thats not good.
[15:22] <dewman> I just installed apache from the package manager, how do i find out what user and group that is running the webserver?
[15:22] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: manually adding 10.04 sources to a 9.10 box !=good
[15:22] <spazmi> erUSUL: sorry for the late reply... but, is there any way to remove these as I doubt torrentflux is not developing anymore and they prolly won't update with the new functions? :)
[15:22] <hsr> How to find list of plugins used in Mozilla using Mozilla by some command?
[15:22] <rotham> how do I create icons to run specific terminal commands?
[15:22] <bazhang> hsr, about:plugins in address bar
[15:22] <ZykoticK9> Sven-Linux, FYI 10.10 has a new version of Xorg that breaks nvidia drivers if you happen to have one
[15:23] <Sven-Linux> i must fix this in any way
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> rotham:  make a launcher that launches the commands and set the icon as needed.. or make a shell script that does it and make a launcher that laucnhes the script
[15:23] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: I'd very strongly suggest a clean install
[15:23] <IdleOne> rotham: right click, create launcher and in the command field put in the command you want to run
[15:23] <Sven-Linux> i cant do a clean install at this moment..  is there anyway to fix GDM ? or Xorg ?
[15:23] <rotham> alright cool thanks
[15:23] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: that is the best way you can fix it and put your system back into a known state
[15:23] <erUSUL> spazmi: why not aswitch to a different torrent client?
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> rotham: in th eproperties dialog the Icon at the top left IS a button you click to change the icon
[15:23] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: I suggest you start looking at backing up your data so you can do a clean install
[15:23] <erUSUL> spazmi: if flux is not developed anymore ...
[15:23] <ZykoticK9> Sven-Linux, +1 on ikonia's suggestion above
[15:24] <mikebeecham_> does anyone know how I get my artwork advertised on OMGUbuntu.co.uk?  I've just finished my first wallpaper for Ubuntu and I think it's alright
[15:24] <Sven-Linux> ikonia: so the "damage" is that bad ?
[15:24] <hsr> bazhang : thanks.. How do you know this? Where do you find it? Is there a man for firefox commands?
[15:24] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: yes, and "unknown" which makes it worse
[15:24] <Sven-Linux> i only got problem whit X thats all..
[15:24] <Sven-Linux> everything else, works
[15:24] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: that you know of
[15:24] <IdleOne> mikebeecham_: email them, OMGubuntu is not affilliated with Canonical/Ubuntu
[15:24] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: there could be many many more
[15:24] <mikebeecham_> IdleOne, ok
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> Sven-Linux:  does 'startx' work from the terminal?
[15:24] <CStryker_86> If someone has time, I would appreciate some wireless config help (atheros AR928X)
[15:25] <spazmi> erUSUL: I tried transmission but I think it lacks functions that flux has... or do you have any other recommendations? :)
[15:25] <erUSUL> spazmi: i use deluge
[15:25] <keld> If anyone can tell me how to search for a file created on a specific date I'd be immensely grateful. I've been sitting in man pages and sh|t up to my ears since yesterday now. I still don't get it.
[15:25] <Sven-Linux> ikonia: yeah! it does! OMG! :O
[15:25] <erUSUL> keld: find
[15:25] <keld> yes. but the date options?
[15:25] <Sven-Linux> but i dont understand why it isn't autostarting
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> keld:  the find command.. theres web sites with examples of its ussage.. it can find based on date..
[15:26] <keld> okay. will give it another go then
[15:26] <topriddy> am trying to chose between ubuntu and fedora as a developer machine with need for lesser download...i.e want all the important stuffs in the single installation
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> Sven-Linux:  gdm could be broken.
[15:26] <spazmi> erUSUL: I'll have a look, thanks... any other tips? :)
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> Sven-Linux:   and who knows wht other parts of gnome also..
[15:26] <IdleOne> Sven-Linux: it isn't auto starting because the way your son tried to upgrade was the wrong way, packages did not get installed/upgraded properly putting your system in a weird state.
[15:26] <hsr> bazhang : thanks.. How do you know this? Where do you find it? Is there a man for firefox commands?
[15:27] <bazhang> hsr, not sure, common knowledge
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> topriddy:  ubuntu is on a 700mb cd.. but dosent come with most dev stuff..   I imagine the actual size of the 2 once you get stuff installed.. will be about the same
[15:27] <IdleOne> Sven-Linux: the best thing to do now is to backup your /home directory and do a clean install of 10.04
[15:27] <bazhang> Sven-Linux, really, back up and re install
[15:27] <erUSUL> spazmi: without known exactly what are your requirements no. ( deluge can has a web ui and can be split in two the gui and the server that can run in different machines never used it that way though )
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> topriddy:  theres other things to consider then just size of teh download..
[15:27] <bazhang> Sven-Linux, it'll be now or later, certainly
[15:27] <Sven-Linux> okay, yeah thanks for the advice, i will use my Live CD to backup my stuff and then i can reinstall
[15:27] <CStryker_86> how do I use dkms to install linux-backports-modules?
[15:27] <vimalsista> Guys, need some help in getting "tweetdeck" software installed in my Linux ubuntu 9.4 version
[15:28] <spazmi> erUSUL: copy that, I'll try it :) thanks
[15:28] <Sven-Linux> how big difference is it between 9.10 and 10.04 ?
[15:28] <hsr> bazhang : Okay thankss
[15:28] <vimalsista> Can anyone help me get tweetdeck installed in my machine ?
[15:28] <Sven-Linux> Im a little older person.. so thats why im wondering :)
[15:28] <andrew_708476> I'II leave it for tomorrow and ask a friend for help
[15:28] <vimalsista> It's prompting me to enter the ROOT password while i'm trying to install the "tweetdeck" application flash file :-)
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> Sven-Linux:  lots of big changes.
[15:29] <abhijit> vimalsista, http://www.technixupdate.com/install-tweetdeck-on-ubuntu-linux/
[15:29] <Sven-Linux> i heard 10.04 is much faster
[15:29] <CStryker_86> how do I use dkms to install linux-backports-modules?
[15:29] <IdleOne> Sven-Linux: the differences are minimal in the sense that you probably won't notice much change except for some Interface changes but nothing to lose your head over or to confusing that you won't adapt
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Sven-Linux, 10.04 is a LTS version
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> Sven-Linux:  it is in many ways.
[15:29] <BluesKaj> !LTS | Sven-Linux
[15:30] <bihari_> so lucid linux will  support for 10 years
[15:30] <ikonia> bihari_: no
[15:30] <abhijit> bihari, ?????
[15:30] <ikonia> !lts > bihari_
[15:30] <bihari_> sory 3 years
[15:31] <IdleOne> bihari: yes 3 years on desktop version
[15:31] <andrew_708476> bazhang do you mind if I add you so you can help me latter on sometime
[15:31] <tyrus> ikonia:any luck thus far?
[15:31] <ikonia> tyrus: nope,
[15:31] <bazhang> andrew_708476, okay
[15:31] <bihari_> IdleOne,  can i PM you
[15:31] <CStryker_86> how do I use dkms to install linux-backports-modules?
[15:31] <andrew_708476> thanks
[15:31] <IdleOne> bihari: sure
[15:31] <tyrus> ikonia:oh well lemme keep tinkering away
[15:32] <erUSUL> CStryker_86: linux-backports-modules does not need dkms afaik
[15:32] <CStryker_86> bad instructions from a message board then; what is the proper way to install linux-backports-modules?
[15:32] <ikonia> tyrus: I'm also looking at what device the speakers hang off, it may actually be hanging off teh digital output
[15:32] <tyrus> ikonia:come again
[15:32] <tyrus> skunkworks? from kenya?
[15:33] <ikonia> tyrus: the speakers may actually be classed as digital output, I don't know yet
[15:33] <madre> Hola estoy intentando instalar  Skype (beta) pero aunque me lo he bajado de los repositorios no me aparece en Aplicaciones>internet. Alguien me puede echar una mano.
[15:33] <ikonia> !es | madre
[15:34] <Pirate_Hunter> is there an actual difference in restarting services using /etc/init.d compared to just using the command services [name] ...?
[15:34] <CStryker_86> erUSUL: bad instructions from a message board then; what is the proper way to install linux-backports-modules?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> some soundcards are an " either or ", default is digital or anlog out but not both, ikonia, tyrus
[15:34] <bazhang> CStryker_86, add them via software sources
[15:34] <madre> Vale gracias.
[15:34] <devdz> what's the command to show hidden files in a directory pls?
[15:34] <ikonia> BluesKaj: ahhh interesting
[15:34] <erUSUL> CStryker_86: sudo aptitude install linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic
[15:34] <ZykoticK9> devdz, ls -a
[15:35] <CStryker_86> ersul: thanks much; I'll try it out
[15:35] <tyrus> BluesKaj:thanks for the correction
[15:35] <Guest17663> heeee
[15:35] <bazhang> erUSUL, he'll have to enable lucid backports for that, wont he?
[15:35] <Guest17663> :(
[15:35] <ZykoticK9> devdz, or ctrl+h if you are in nautilus ;)
[15:35] <ikonia> Guest17663: do you want something or just want to make noises ?
[15:35] <devdz> thx, Zykotik9
[15:36] <lontra> erUSUL: has that repo been relatively stable for you? just curious if you've had issues with chromium crashing, etc. i haven't tried the repo yet
[15:36] <_pg_> how do I tell a live cd to boot up with NOT the "noveau" driver for my nvida card?
[15:36] <CStryker_86> bazhang: I don't appear to; it is downloading and doing it's thing
[15:36] <ikonia> _pg_: the propritary drivers aren't installed on the livecd
[15:36] <ZykoticK9> _pg_, are you try to get proprietary driver on livecd?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> ikonia, tyrus , not all are setup to run only one analog or digital , but most onboards and cheaper pci cards seem to have that restriction
[15:37] <bazhang> CStryker_86, good news then
[15:37] <guntbert> Guest17663: don't do everyday tasks (like irc) as root
[15:37] <_pg_> ikonia: the live cd is crashing hard and throwing up an error about that noveau thing
[15:37] <erUSUL> bazhang: according to apt-cache policy here no it wont
[15:37] <Guest17663> i am sorry, iam new using linux, this is the first time iam using xchat
[15:37] <coz_> Guest17663,  well then welcome aboard :)
[15:38] <erUSUL> lontra: well if you have a problem it only last a day. new day new browser ;). It is quite stable yes
[15:38] <BluesKaj> Guest17663, sorry for ?
[15:38] <lontra> erUSUL: great thanks :)AAA
[15:39] <bazhang> erUSUL, thanks
[15:39] <Guest17663> cant i chat to yahoo messenger from here, using xchat guys,,?
[15:39] <IdleOne> Guest17663: no
[15:39] <lontra> erUSUL: yeah i'd prefer to run chromium over chrome
[15:39] <IdleOne> Guest17663: you can use Empathy which is installed and can be found in Applications > Internet.
[15:39] <_pg_> ikonia: unhandled pmc intr status something noveau something
[15:41] <michas> hi, what was the reason for moving the sun-java6-* packages from multiverse to partner? Is there a place to read about the reasons?
[15:42] <Maletor> Can I unmount /var without using the liveCD?
[15:43] <Maletor> How do I figure out what processes are writing to /var ?
[15:43] <_pg_> ikonia: hello
[15:43] <nifu> hi :)
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[15:45] <FloodBot3> windydays: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:45] <windydays> hello everybody.
[15:45] <Twilo> hello, I use ubuntu JeOS with lxde-core. how can I change the keyboard layout with the keyboard layout switcher applet in the task bar?
[15:45] <windydays> I have a LAMP server run UBUNTU10.04. I think upstart is really nice. But I found that apache is not started by upstart,that is why?
[15:46] <tyrus> BluesKaj:any idea on how to sort out the issue that i have
[15:46] <erUSUL> windydays: not converted yet?
[15:46] <ibrahim-kasem__> windydays, you have to start it using the terminal
[15:47] <vjj2000> hi when i use the windows installer for ubuntu can i set the partition size during the install?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> tyrus, pls explain your problem in a bit more detail
[15:47] <tyrus> ok here is the problem.
[15:47] <abhinav> vjj2000:  what do you mean by windows installer ? Wubi ? that does not require a separate partition, IIRC
[15:48] <ZykoticK9> vjj2000, I don't think the WUBI (windows installer) creates "real" partitions
[15:48] <abhinav> !wubi | vjj2000
[15:48] <windydays> my server is OK. But I want to use upstart instead of sysv init.
[15:48] <tyrus> I did a fresh install of 10.04, sound wasnt working but after tweaking abit with alsa and pulseaudio settings i got it to work
[15:48] <tyrus> BluesKaj:so yesterday i did an update that involved a kernel upgrade and i was back to where i started. no sound at all from the external speakers
[15:49] <vjj2000> would it be better to use the normal ubuntu installer in stead of the Wubi?
[15:49] <ZykoticK9> vjj2000, yes 1000X yes
[15:49] <guntbert> Maletor: type fuser -m /var   -- you get the PIDs
[15:49] <tyrus> BluesKaj:so i have been playing around with the same configs up until now but to no avail
[15:49] <vjj2000> thx ZykoticK9
[15:50] <BluesKaj> tyrus, so let's start with the basics ,: is alsamixer setup ?
[15:50] <tyrus> BluesKaj:am running a HP 620 with the following sound card Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[15:50] <ZykoticK9> vjj2000, dual booting creation with Install CD is very straight forward
[15:50] <tyrus> yes alsa is up
[15:51] <vjj2000> ZykoticK9  i have already installed ubuntu but i have a new computer and just wondered
[15:52] <ubuntu__> hi...
[15:52] <abhinav> !hi | ubuntu__
[15:52] <ubuntu__> how do u do........?
[15:52] <vjj2000> bye
[15:52] <BluesKaj> tyrus, ok,digital/spdif working , all ctrls cranked and nothing muted...I have to ask the obvious :)
[15:52] <ubuntu__> bye.....
[15:52] <wildeja> Hello all, I realise that this is probably the wrong channel for my query but i'm hoping that a kind soul could direct me to somewhere more relevant so i am apologising in advance.  Question: Where can i talk with someone about what to use to design my webpage (i.e. xhtml,html dom,javascript,css,xml,etc))
[15:53] <tyrus> BluesKaj:yes they are all unmuted
[15:53] <abhinav> wildeja: #html ?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> tyrus, have you visited the intelhda page ?
[15:54] <guntbert> ubuntu: this is the support channel.  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[15:54] <wildeja> abhinav, Thanks for the suggestion but i posted exactly the same as i posted here to no response
[15:54] <wildeja> abhinav, in #html i mean
[15:55] <BluesKaj> !intelhda | tyrus
[15:55] <wildeja> Ive visited the w3c site and w3schools but there are alot of versions and i want to use something standard
[15:55] <guntbert> !ot | wildeja
[15:55] <wildeja> guntbert, I explained and appologised for that in my first post
[15:56] <wildeja> guntbert, i just run outta options sorry
[15:56] <guntbert> wildeja: that doesn't mean its ok to insist
[15:56] <wildeja> insist?
[15:56] <ibrahim-kasem__> wildeja, asking for help is okay dude :)
[15:57] <wildeja> definatly asking for help :)
[15:57] <abhinav> wildeja: try #web
[15:57] <tyrus> aaiit
[15:57] <wildeja> just directions would be so greatfully recieved
[15:58] <dewman> how would i find out what user is running apache if i installed it from the package manager?
[15:58] <tyrus> lemme do that BluesKaj
[15:58] <wildeja> abhinav, Thanks dude
[15:58] <dewman> I know the group is wwwdata
[15:59] <andrew_708476> Bazhang do you know what other good stuff is for Ubuntu
[16:00] <MichRT> I have an Intel 82852/82855 Graphics Media Accelerator  graphics card in my laptop. In Ubuntu 9.10, I can enable compiz. In 10.04, however, It is not stable till  I run it in safe graphics mode. Help?
[16:00] <dogmatic69> hey all
[16:01] <phasip> Hello
[16:01] <dogmatic69> yesterday my shell screen thing was colored and transparent, now its white and boring... anyone know what happened?
[16:01] <xylol> hi
[16:01] <andrew_708476> So Bazhang where are you from
[16:01] <zzzed> dewman, do ps aux | grep -e apache
[16:02] <MichRT> Hello dogmatic69 and phasip
[16:02] <bobo123> dogmatic69: yes there are a setting in gnome-terminal for that
[16:02] <ZykoticK9> dogmatic69, by "shell" do you mean terminal?  Are you using gnome-terminal?  If so, Edit menu then Profile Preferences to add transparency etc.
[16:02] <dogmatic69> sup MichRT
[16:02] <guntbert> !ot > andrew_708476
[16:02] <dogmatic69> ZykoticK9: that is exactly what i mean :P
[16:03] <bobo123> dogmatic69: profile-settings/Background/Transparent. (personally I prefer white and booring)
[16:03] <dogmatic69> lol
[16:03] <dogmatic69> i just remebered i changed the theme
[16:03] <dogmatic69> that would explain it
[16:04] <bobo123> do anyonw know if it is possible to prevent aptitude from painting the screen black?
[16:04] <MichRT> I have an Intel 82852/82855 Graphics Media Accelerator  graphics card in my laptop. In Ubuntu 9.10, I can enable compiz. In 10.04, however, It is not stable till  I run it in safe graphics mode. Help?
[16:05] <DrumHead> Does anyone know what causes this: jackd: unknown driver 'freebob'?
[16:05] <bobo123> I thought I should look at the aptitide userinterface (just in case the X graphics system stops working one day). is it possible to make it stop with its black background?
[16:06] <ZykoticK9> MichRT, i have an Intel N10 card in my EEE netbook - I can only use certain Compiz features without it crashing :(  Doesn't help I realize, but wanted you to know you aren't alone ;)  Best of luck man.
[16:06] <MichRT> Hello xylol
[16:06] <bobo123> Ideeally someonse should make a textuserinterface to synaptic but in lack of that......
[16:07] <MichRT> Thanks Zykotick9
[16:07] <zzzed> DrumHead, start jackctl, click setup, then change driver to alsa
[16:07] <ZykoticK9> bobo123, by text do you man apt or aptitude?  there is already 2.
[16:08] <bobo123> ZykoticK9: aptitide
[16:08] <DrumHead> zzzed, thanks for your response... I switched to ALSO and now I get "JACK has crashed"
[16:09] <MichRT> How do you permanently enable "Safe Grahpics Mode" or the VESA driver?
[16:09] <dogmatic69> when i build something from source where should this be done?
[16:09] <bobo123> ZykoticK9: I guess there is some commandline-using of aptitude too, but I am only interested in the userinterface-way of using it. when it is started without parameters. black black black  :-(
[16:09] <DrumHead> zzzed, have been researching/fighting with this for days :-/
[16:09] <zzzed> DrumHead, where are you seeing the "JACK has crashed" msg
[16:09] <dogmatic69> i dont want to put random files all over
[16:10] <DrumHead> zzzed, in the messages window
[16:10] <Maletor> Can anybody help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1557847
[16:10] <zzzed> DrumHead, ok, what does it say before that
[16:10] <ZykoticK9> bobo123, the screen turns "dark" whenever you start a gksu'ed program, is that what you mean?
[16:10] <DrumHead> Memory locking is unlimited - this is dangerous. You should probably alter the line:
[16:10] <DrumHead>      @audio   -  memlock    unlimited
[16:10] <DrumHead> in your /etc/limits.conf to read:
[16:10] <DrumHead>      @audio   -  memlock    957126
[16:10] <DrumHead> 10:07:39.368 JACK was started with PID=4833.
[16:10] <FloodBot3> DrumHead: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:10] <DrumHead> no message buffer overruns
[16:10] <ZykoticK9> !paste | DrumHead
[16:11] <vimalsista> @ abhijit : Thanks for the quick turn around !!! :-) I'll try installing it, if I hung up anywhere in the middle, I shall ping you :-)
[16:12] <DrumHead> zzzed, sorry about the improper paste :-/
[16:12] <bobo123> ZykoticK9: no, when I run synaptic and press enter in a command line window here, it starts it userinterface (way harder to use than synaptic btw), but with black backround. can it be started so it doesn't change the background? (so the text is easier to read with normal black text on white background)
[16:13] <zzzed> DrumHead, do you have "Verbose messages" check in your setup?
[16:13] <bobo123> ZykoticK9: sorry I mean. when I starta aptitude and press enter
[16:13] <DrumHead> zzzed, not that time--will enable and try again.
[16:14] <ZykoticK9> bobo123, sorry i really don't know...  i typically don't use aptitude interface on cli.
[16:14] <bobo123> ZykoticK9: aha
[16:14] <bobo123> ZykoticK9: I guess real hardcore linux users do all those things with commandline commands (apt) instead
[16:15] <DrumHead> zzzed, "new client: alsa_pcm, id = 1 type 1 @ 0x919d5f0 fd = -1"
[16:15] <ZykoticK9> bobo123, apt and aptitude are more or less interchangeable when given commands/swtiches.  I just opened "aptitude" and saw the interface, i have NO idea how it works yet ;)  Good luck man.
[16:15] <DrumHead> zzzed, the jack stops
[16:16] <DrumHead> zzzed, exit status 256
[16:17] <DrumHead> zzzed, I would paste using the site but every process i try to start is immediately killed now... not sure what is up with that
[16:19] <dewman> zzzed, thanks.... =)
[16:19] <zzzed> DrumHead, what kind of sound card are you using
[16:19] <BentFranklin> Strange behavior: vnc to a Hardy host fails unless I have an NX session running on that host.  When I terminate the NX, vnc won't connect until I start it up again.  If I just disconnect from the NX session, vnc will connect. What up with that?
[16:20] <DrumHead> zzzed, I have a Presonus firepod going through a Rosewill (VIA chipset) firewire card
[16:21] <zzzed> DrumHead, in that case change the driver to "firewire"
[16:21] <root_> hello guys, my linux cannot read japanese letter, any advices?
[16:21] <_DGM_> then your linux is not much different from me
[16:22] <Oer> root_ mine ubuntu does
[16:23] <DrumHead> zzzed, that did a lot more (seemed like it was going to work) the stopped again "jack main caught signal 12". Then, it stopped itself again. Finally, ended with jackd: no process found
[16:23] <Jordan_U> root_: You shouldn't log in as root.
[16:23] <slow-motion> hi
[16:23] <trijntje> !hi | slow-motion
[16:23] <root_> iam sorry jordan,,this is the first i am here,,iam new in linux
[16:24] <_DGM_> use your real username instead of root
[16:24] <Oer> root_,  kind of old, but maybe helpfull > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput
[16:24] <_DGM_> its much safer
[16:24] <DrumHead> zzzed, also the sync light on the FP10 changed
[16:24] <root_> thnx Oer,,i ll see it
[16:25] <zib_> hello
[16:25] <trijntje> !hi | zib_
[16:26] <DrDetroit> Hello
[16:26] <zzzed> DrumHead, try channel #ubuntustudio, I don't really know jack w/firewire
[16:26] <DrumHead> zzzed, thanks for your help
[16:27] <zib_> I'm trying to compile the xf86-input-wacom driver but a package is missing and I don't find it
[16:27] <zib_> I've posted on ubuntu forums here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9746636&postcount=139
[16:28] <DrDetroit> I have installed Ubuntu and am quite pleased with it, but there is one thing I have been unable to accomplish, which is streaming mp3 files, is there a online guide as how to do this?
[16:28] <cba123> Anyone have issues with mdadm?  I'm considering going moving my FreeNAS box to Ubuntu, but I don't want to risk data on an mdadm array if it is still iffy.
[16:28] <jrib> zib_: erm, why are you compiling it instead of using APT?
[16:29] <jrib> zib_: xserver-xorg-input-wacom is in the repositories, use that.  I have to go play sc2 now, bye and gl :)
[16:29] <jfroebe> zib_ - did you install wacom-tools and still having troubles?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151
[16:30] <switch10_> I have conky setup to read a todo list from ~/Dropbox.  Is there a way I can easily edit this file using tomboy or other?  I'd like to avoid opening a text editor to add a task etc.
[16:30] <amy_> hello?
[16:31] <ZykoticK9> !hi | amy_
[16:31] <Feroy> um, is there anyone here to help me, I need help and I think I need to be redirected to a Channel with hardware assistance . . . .
[16:32] <ZykoticK9> Feroy, ##hardware is a hardware channel
[16:32] <Feroy> ok, thank you
[16:32] <zib_> i'm on lucid so no wacom tools
[16:32] <DrDetroit> hello?
[16:32] <coz_> zib_,    I have a wacom intuos3 tablet here and the keys  dont work much at all
[16:32] <DrDetroit> I have installed Ubuntu and am quite pleased with it, but there is one thing I have been unable to accomplish, which is streaming mp3 files, is there a online guide as how to do this?
[16:33] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | DrDetroit
[16:33] <coz_> zib_,  there used to be a source code for wacom keys express  but it never worked for me
[16:33] <Feroy> Cannot join ##hardware: Registration is required.
[16:33] <Feroy> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[16:33] <Feroy>  do I need to register on the ubuntu website?
[16:33] <FloodBot3> Feroy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:33] <voobscout> anybody knows how to move a panel to another monitor? i got 2
[16:33] <ZykoticK9> !register > Feroy
[16:33] <Jordan_U> !register | Feroy
[16:34] <ZykoticK9> voobscout, can you drag other windows from one monitor to the other?  if so, simply drag the panel to the other monitor.
[16:34] <zib_> i'm trying to install my bamboo craft using the tutoriel available on ubuntu forums ... but little problem with this driver
[16:34] <terrence> Hi all
[16:34] <voobscout> ZykoticK9: yeah, i can drag windows, but panel stays in-place
[16:34] <voobscout> ZykoticK9: can't drag it, i tried
[16:34] <ZykoticK9> voobscout, try holding down ALT and dragging
[16:35] <terrence> I'm trying to get Totem Movie player to play youtube files
[16:35] <terrence> Is there anyone who has it working on 10.4
[16:35] <voobscout> ZykoticK9: thanks mate
[16:35] <coz_> zib_,  sudo apt-get install libxrandr-dev
[16:36] <voobscout> and another question about 2 monitors, compiz stopped working....
[16:36] <coz_> zib_,  then recompile that package
[16:36] <amy_> i recently switched to lubuntu from windows vista and now my webcam/microphone are not being detected...any ideas?
[16:36] <gonzolively> hey guys quick question, i have a network drive (ntfs) mapped to my linux machine, i need read and write privileges, however i've been unsuccessful at doing that.  Any ideas?
[16:36] <voobscout> any reason why compiz shouldn't work with a dual monitor system?
[16:37] <coz_> - zib_    sudo apt-get install  libxrandr-dev   then recompile that package
[16:37] <ZykoticK9> voobscout, someone mentioned yesterday that dualmonitor with ubuntu's compiz can cause issues (i didn't experience that), you might want to ask in #compiz if you don't get an answer here first.  Good luck.
[16:37] <terrence> Can't play youtube on my movie player
[16:37] <terrence> any help?
[16:37] <coz_> terrence,  I couldnt get that to either on this end
[16:37] <voobscout> ZykoticK9: right, thyanks
[16:38] <terrence> I tried a few help guides, but they don't work
[16:38] <coz_> - zib_   ok
[16:38] <amy_> i recently switched from windows vista to lubuntu..and now my webcam/microphone are not being detected...any ideas?? :S
[16:38] <terrence> coz, do you have a youtube.py file in usr/lib/totem/plugins/youtub
[16:39] <terrence> coz, do you have a youtube.py file in usr/lib/totem/plugins/youtube I mean
[16:39] <ZykoticK9> amy_, does "lspci | grep -i audio" show your audio card?  It might help the channel assist you.
[16:40] <terrence> I figure if I can find the file I can apply the Ubuntu 9 patch
[16:41] <amy_> unfortunately i am entirely new to ubuntu and this is far beyond me... this is my first day usuing the linux program. perhaps i should ask the person who installed this in my computer...thank you though :/
[16:42] <Jordan_U> terrence: Youtube changed things up recently, breaking most youtube download clients.
[16:42] <juanluis> no recuerdo como usar irc :s
[16:42] <xangua> terrence: you mean with totem¿
[16:42] <terrence> thanks Jordan_U
[16:43] <terrence> yes xangua
[16:43] <xangua> well...it's broken terrence
[16:43] <xangua> wait until maverick release
[16:43] <Coccinelle> #join archlinuxfr
[16:43] <xangua> or you can try a PPA, under your own risk terrence
[16:43] <terrence> OK - is there any other player that works for youtube in the meantime
[16:44] <terrence> xangua: Whats a PPA
[16:44] <ZykoticK9> !ppa | terrence
[16:44] <terrence> Thanks - will give that a try
[16:44] <terrence> thanks Xangua
[16:45] <Zoffix> Has anyone ever gotten any "BlueTrace" mice to work on Ubuntu? I just bought Lexma MS7160. It's a regular mouse + small mouse - both use Blue Trace, and I have right now three mice connected and only my old laser one works.... any suggestions how to approach this? Would it be reasonable to think that the Blue Trace mice would start working if I rebooted?
[16:45] <xangua> terrence: another¿ you can also try minitube
[16:45] <Jordan_U> terrence: You're welcome, here is the bug report concerning this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/609855
[16:45] <ZykoticK9> Zoffix, you can only use 1 mouse at a time i believe (or you require a multipoint Xorg)
[16:45] <terrence> xangua: I've tried minitube, but get a different error
[16:45] <xangua> terrence: both minitube and totem updates that work again with youtube are in this PPA that acumulates a lot more of other program updates https://launchpad.net/~guido-iodice/+archive/guiodiclucid
[16:46] <Zoffix> ZykoticK9, ah. Ok thanks. I'll try connecting just one and try to see if the Blue Trace mouse works after dist upgrade I'm doing ATM...
[16:46] <terrence> Xangua thanks a mil . I'll try and come back to let you know how it ent
[16:47] <DrDetroit> Hello, Is there any easy way to stream my mp3 collection across the net to my friends? I have been unsuccessful so far, and was wondering if there is some online gude to help me set it up?
[16:48] <xangua> terrence: if something goes wrong with that ppa you can rollback with ppa-purge, do you have ppa-purge in your system¿
[16:48] <izika> hi all!
[16:49] <izika> i use ubuntu 10.04 (updated). the glipper gives always error when starts gnome. so how to start it from terminal ?
[16:49] <terrence> xangua; I just installed it - thanks
[16:49] <cwwilson721> I have a friend that is having an issue with grub in a dual-boot, Win7/Ubuntu 10.04-64. grub lost it's mind, boots into Win7, no menu for Ubuntu. He tried reinstalling, no joy. Ideas?
[16:50] <Zoffix> Heh, well, something new I've just learned. If you unplug your working mouse, try to plug a different mouse, and then even if you plug your original mouse back, it won't work :/ I'm now mouseless for the next 40-50 minutes lol
[16:51] <oxidkor> hello - I am in trouble - I accidentally remove the volume bar on top right section of my panel - how could I bring it back?
[16:51] <ZykoticK9> Zoffix, don't unplug any PS2 mice while the computer is running - can lead to bad things (USB should be able to be unplugged/replugged ok)
[16:51] <Zoffix> oxidkor, right click on your pannel, find "Add to panel" and find volume control there.
[16:52] <root_> cannot read "kanji",,japanese letter,,please help,,
[16:52] <trijntje> oxidkor, Zoffix I believe its called "notification area"
[16:52] <ZykoticK9> oxidkor, on 10.04 you need to add Indicator applet i believe
[16:52] <CStryker_86> could someone help me install a AR928X Wireless Network Adapter
[16:52] <dogmatic69> anyone know where all the php.ini files would be? ive installed xdebug and it shows in phpinfo() but its not "working"
[16:53] <Zoffix> ZykoticK9, I once burnt PS/2 port while unplugging a keyboard, so I've learned that the hard way :) In any case, all three of my current mice are USB.
[16:53] <joeyeye> My desktop suffers from frequent hangs, sometimes I can ssh in, other times I can not. It appears that GDM has hung but I don't know how to troubleshoot - can anyone here help me ?
[16:53] <oxidkor> thanks - it came back
[16:53] <oxidkor> :))
[16:53] <oxidkor> thanks alot
[16:53] <ZykoticK9> oxidkor, what it notification or indicator that worked?
[16:54] <_ting_> tyrus do you solve the proble with your hdmi audio ?
[16:54] <ZykoticK9> oxidkor, what/was
[16:54] <ParkerM> Where would the flash player shared objects be stored from firefox in wine as well as firefox in ubuntu?
[16:54] <cwwilson721> Nobody knows grub?
[16:54] <oxidkor> ZykoticK9: indicator
[16:54] <CStryker_86> could someone help me install an AR928X Wireless Network Adapter; I installed the backports and still no joy
[16:55] <ParkerM> Oh wait I have the ubuntu directory
[16:56] <oxidkor> ZykoticK9:indicator worked my man
[16:56] <oxidkor> ;)
[16:56] <CStryker_86> could someone help me install an AR928X Wireless Network Adapter; I installed the backports and still no joy
[16:56] <OltreIrc`27813> ciao
[16:57] <OltreIrc`27813> !list
[16:57] <vandy> hyyyy
[16:57] <OltreIrc`27813> !list
[16:57] <ParkerM> !list
[16:57] <ZykoticK9> OltreIrc`27813, !list doesn't work here.  Can we help you?
[16:57] <joeyeye> My desktop suffers from frequent hangs, sometimes I can ssh in, other times I can not. It appears that GDM has hung but I don't know how to troubleshoot - can anyone here help me ?
[16:58] <cba123> _ting_, tyrus, I had a hell of a time getting HDMI audio to work, until I installed alsa 1.0.23-2.  I found a script somewhere that auto-installs and compiles it.
[16:58] <trijntje> joeyeye, ctrl+alt+f1 should put you in a text console, where you can restart X
[16:58] <trijntje> ctrl + alt +f7 to go back to the graphic desktop
[16:59] <ZykoticK9> joeyeye, and "sudo service gdm restart" is the command to restart GDM
[16:59] <joeyeye> trijntje, I know, but even sudo service gdm restart fails, as does sudo /ect/init.d/gdm restart
[16:59] <CStryker_86> could someone help me install an AR928X Wireless Network Adapter; I installed the backports and still no joy
[17:00] <joeyeye> trijntje, sometimes my only option is power cycle. It's happened since upgrade to Lucid
[17:00] <CStryker_86> could someone at least tell me where to look for more info; I've been googling this for days
[17:01] <kuttan_> hello
[17:01] <maco> CStryker_86: have you considered that maybe its just plain not supported?
[17:02] <Diverdude> how do i recursively search all files that ends with .m in a direcoty and all subdirs in the terminal?
[17:02] <CStryker_86> maco, I considered that, but other people have gotten it to work; for some reason their solutions don't work for me
[17:02] <maco> Diverdude: find . -name *.m
[17:02] <cwwilson721>  I have a friend that is having an issue with grub in a dual-boot, Win7/Ubuntu 10.04-64. grub lost it's mind, boots into Win7, no menu for Ubuntu. He tried reinstalling, no joy. Ideas?
[17:02] <trijntje> joeyeye, maybe sudo killall Xorg?
[17:03] <maco> cwwilson721: holding shift doesnt bring up a menu either?
[17:04] <cwwilson721> One sec
[17:04] <Diverdude> maco, that gives error: find: paths must precede expression: Analysis.m
[17:04] <cwwilson721> He doesn't want to reboot, lost ubuntu completely last time, and reinstalled entire OS
[17:04] <maco> Diverdude: weird. try "find ./ -name *.m"
[17:05] <maco> wahooooo: you said "he tried reinstalling" ... what did he reinstasll? windows or ubuntu?
[17:05] <cwwilson721> Ubuntu.
[17:06] <ParkerM> Is there a help channel for wine?
[17:06] <maco> cwwilson721: is he in ubuntu right now?
[17:06] <ParkerM> !wine
[17:06] <bsod1> how can I open rar formatted files from terminal
[17:06] <cwwilson721> Yes
[17:06] <maco> cwwilson721: how'd he get to it this time?
[17:06] <ParkerM> #winehq
[17:06] <ParkerM> whoops
[17:06] <maco> bsod1: unrar foo.rar
[17:06] <maco> bsod1: probably have to install unrar first though
[17:06] <bsod1> maco: ty, how can I choose which folder to unrar?
[17:06] <Madmanden> Is it possible to change the Gnome panel weather icon (Clock) into something more colorful (like in earlier versions of Ubuntu)?
[17:07] <maco> bsod1: dont know if you can. if its possible "man unrar" will tell you
[17:07] <bsod1> maco:thanks
[17:07] <elitexray> hi
[17:08] <Crash> hey
[17:08] <xangua> Madmanden: depends of your icon theme
[17:09] <myke5161> Question: Is there a way to install Ubuntu 10.04 without having to put in the login name and password untill AFTER the complete install? I want to build a computer for a friend
[17:09] <xangua> Madmanden: you mean gnome colors¿ http://img830.imageshack.us/i/tmpfin8bd.png/ sudo apt-get install gnome-colors
[17:09] <edbian> myke5161, Like an OEM thing?  There has to be because Dell ships computers with Ubuntu pre-installed.  I don't know how to set it up.
[17:10] <TiK> you get the OEM livecd's
[17:10] <myke5161> Edbian: yes
[17:10] <maco> myke5161: yes, thats a OEM install
[17:10] <myke5161> where can i download the oem live cd on Ubuntu's webstie?
[17:10] <maco> myke5161: its the same cd
[17:11] <duffydack> you choose the oem option
[17:11] <BentFranklin> How can I find out what X session I am looking at (via console, NX or vnc) and a list of all sessions running?
[17:11] <maco> myke5161: it used to be that there'd be a list of F-keys at the bottom and you hit one of them (F6 i think for options?) but the new installer moved it somewhere :-/
[17:11] <myke5161> Maco: what part of the installation prompts you for an oem install?
[17:11] <maco> myke5161: it doesnt prompt
[17:12] <duffydack> press F4
[17:12] <duffydack> choose oem
[17:12] <myke5161> ah ok
[17:12] <myke5161> let me try that in VB
[17:12] <Madmanden> xangua: thanks, I'll look into that :)
[17:16] <wayne> #list
[17:16] <rabana> this morning i have no toolbar functions--navigation yes but no file, edit, bookmarks, favorites, etc. also no right click mouse functions. when i shut down last night everything was normal. when i opened this morning they were gone.
[17:16] <myke5161> thanks for the help all
[17:19] <skumara> hi. this channel is quiet!
[17:19] <zkriesse> skumara: Its a help channel
[17:19] <twisted_> yo :) I'm installing netatalk now from the ubuntu repo but that is v2.0.5-3 but on the site of netatalk it tells me that's from nov2009 and the current version is 2.1.3
[17:20] <twisted_> are there repo's for ubuntu that supply newer packages?
[17:20] <zkriesse> If its quiet its kinda a good thing
[17:20] <Fraff> Hello, I am having trouble with opacity in compiz. I have my opacity set to 99% for menus but it is extremely transparent to the point where i cant even read my menus
[17:20] <skumara> yes. i need help. i found out that downloading software from ubuntu software channel in lucid is very slow. any method to make it fast?
[17:20] <zkriesse> twisted_: You might have to compile that program feom source
[17:21] <xangua> skumara: tried using the principal server¿
[17:21] <zkriesse> skumara: It is most likely your internet or people could just be hammering the servers
[17:21] <North_Italian69> how to see all owns open ports?
[17:21] <twisted_> zkriesse: there's not like debian a stable/testing/unstable ?
[17:22] <white_magic> is it possible to force desktop icons to have a drop shadow in their text (like Win Vista or 7)?
[17:22] <skumara> xangua, how can i change the server. or choose a mirror location.
[17:22] <xangua> skumara: system>administration>software sources
[17:22] <zkriesse> white_magic: Im sure there is but i dont know for sure
[17:22] <skumara> zkriesse, my internet is not slow. i can download software from www.download.com very fast.
[17:23] <felicity> i did a dist-upgrade, and now am getting an error: var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image* sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1).what am i doing wrong?
[17:23] <duffydack> skumara, set it to use a repo nearer you.  run software sources, and choose best server
[17:23] <duffydack> skumara, it will do some tests
[17:24] <skumara> xangua, thank you. now iḿ getting fast connection from main server
[17:24] <skumara> thank you
[17:24] <Mcar> Hello, Uhm, How do install a java runtime enviroment on ubuntu?
[17:25] <duffydack> Mcar, depends which
[17:25] <Mcar> duffdack, what do you mean? I need the latest one
[17:25] <xangua> !java | Mcar
[17:25] <duffydack> Mcar, do you want it to play pogo
[17:26] <jaybee> My ubuntu server (10.04) appears to have firewall settings.... but I have no idea where they are coming from, how can I find out?
[17:26] <lontra> hi why is it when i install the appmenu indicator, i.e. the global menu bar, from the canonical design ppa, that it screws up my indicator applet
[17:26] <duffydack> Mcar,  either install the open source version,   openjdk-6-jre icedtea6-plugin     or suns version,  sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[17:27] <duffydack> umm he`s gone.
[17:28] <xangua> lontra: don't use it then
[17:28] <Knipsa> hi, need help on upgrading 9.10->10.04: after 2 hours of installing from a iso-alternate-image on an external HD it stops asking: if i want to override "/etc/gnome/defaults.list", the problem is: i can't answer 'cause mouse and keyboard aren't responsitive (i can switch to a console via ctrl-alt-f1) what can/should i do now?
[17:29] <felicity> apparently, my linux-image is broken.how do i fix this?
[17:29] <lontra> xangua: i wanted to test it and was curious if there was a work around
[17:29]  * duffydack uses the oem install for the first time and sees that it rocks.
[17:30] <bitplane> hi, I've got a laptop here with a bunch of special buttons with lights on them and stuff. any idea whether these live in the filesystem somewhere?
[17:31] <bitplane> there's the standard crappy media buttons but also a volume control, the buttons appear to work but the state of the lights don't. like when I mute I'd like to make the volume light go orange like it does on windows
[17:31] <duffydack> bitplane, be thankful they work at all :)
[17:32] <bitplane> duffydack: how do I make em work for everyone else?
[17:32] <bitplane> lsusb doesn't show anything, I can't find anything in /dev/ or /proc/sys
[17:32] <bitplane> I'm happy to hack and submit patches
[17:33] <bitplane> just wanna know where to start
[17:33] <MichealH> felicity: Could we have your kernel number please?
[17:33] <duffydack> bitplane, the ones on my dell are lit up  (they are touch buttons, not keys) and they light up a little more when pressed, but it works out of the box so I have no idea how to configure any of them, never had to
[17:34] <jaybee> Is there really any advantage to having partitions for each linux sub dir (ie var, home, /)?
[17:34] <felicity> MichealH: okay, this is a little embarassing, 2.6.30.9
[17:34] <felicity> MichealH: i had an old iso, so now i was upgrading
[17:34] <jaybee> I've just realised my host has done this, wtf do I want a 400+GB home for on a server?
[17:34] <jaybee> but only a 4GB var?
[17:34] <dios_mio> jaybee, well the only advantage is that when you install a new system, you will keep your home files
[17:35] <MichealH> felicity: What version of ubuntu?
[17:35] <felicity> MichealH: intrepid
[17:35] <threeseas> upgraded tp 10.04... where might I find the log file for this?
[17:35] <ServerTech> what is the command to see all process and end one pid. no.?
[17:35] <jaybee> Is there an easy way over ssh for ubtunu to move all of the partitions except /boot into one and just have that as /?
[17:35] <jaybee> or did my host screw me over?
[17:35] <TiK> ServerTech: ps aux
[17:36] <TiK> ServerTech: kill -9 PID
[17:36] <ServerTech> thx how do i end one
[17:36] <ServerTech> Thx
[17:36] <LoFo> hello
[17:36] <MichealH> felicity: Are you wanting to upgrade to lucid or?
[17:36] <felicity> MichealH: i just did an apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:36] <duffydack> jaybee, try asking your host to give you what you want.
[17:37] <felicity> MichealH: and now, am getting an error after hours of downloading.and my net connection is really slow :(
[17:37] <jaybee> It's not managed
[17:37] <LoFo> i'm having a little problem with the update manager.  i get the following message when trying to run the update:
[17:37] <LoFo> Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/dists/stable/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-lpia/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[17:37] <LoFo> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[17:37] <FloodBot3> LoFo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:37] <jaybee> apart from installing an os for you
[17:37] <devdz> hi guys!  .. i'm now under linux and have on my hard disk windows_xp.exe wana intall it on one of my local drive, how can i do it without burning it and boot from cd ?
[17:37] <maco> jaybee: on servers, yes there is an advantage
[17:37] <LoFo> Can anybody point me to how to solve this problem?
[17:37] <hishamnajam> Hello everyone :) i was trying to exclude some directories/files from AIDE db....in what file of /etc/aide/aide.conf.d/ should i place my exclude list??
[17:37] <MichealH> felicity: I suggest a good, clean install
[17:38] <duffydack> jaybee, so ask them to install it again, properly.
[17:38] <xangua> LoFo: remove that repository
[17:38] <felicity> MichealH: oh snap.i thought you'd say that.anyway, let me try tinker with it and see what happens
[17:38] <MichealH> Yeah.
[17:38] <jaybee> I will because it's retarded, only 4GB for / and /var, home gets 400GB.... do they realise all the logs and mysql data that defaults to going somewhere other than home?
[17:39] <threeseas> upgraded to 10.04... where might I find the log file for this?
[17:39] <iredux> Locking my screen with Control-Alt-L sometimes fails; I think that certain windows will eat the key combination.  Is the best solution to choose a different screen-locking chord, or something else?
[17:39] <jaybee> Is this ubuntu server default? or the clever idea of an idiot sysadmin at the dedicated hosting centre?
[17:39] <duffydack> jaybee, I`m not sure how to manage them over terminal/ssh.  Maybe 'parted' can do it, or the LVM tools if they are LVM
[17:39] <LoFo> OK, I'm rather new to Ubuntu... how do I remove that repository?
[17:39] <duffydack> jaybee, an idiot :)
[17:39] <jaybee> ok ill blame them then :)
[17:39] <Anuovis> LoFo, check private ms
[17:40] <Anuovis> *msg
[17:40] <xangua> LoFo: how did you add it¿
[17:40] <Stiwanoff> can anyone answer me a question about partitioning concerning dualboot systems with windows 7 and ubuntu?
[17:40] <Anuovis> I had a similar problem
[17:40] <duffydack> Stiwanoff, ask away
[17:40] <Stiwanoff> I'm a beginner with ubuntu
[17:40] <xangua> system>administration>software sources would be the easiest LoFo
[17:40] <tortoise7> the installer (from within win7) returns: cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO........  thoughts?
[17:40] <Stiwanoff> I tried to make a shared partition for files
[17:40] <hishamnajam> :) can anyone help me with the AIDE exclude ?
[17:40] <sinurge> Stiwanoff, whatz your question
[17:40] <Stiwanoff> during the install
[17:41] <Stiwanoff> but it showed me 3 partitions
[17:41] <Stiwanoff> sda1, sda2, sda3
[17:41] <duffydack> Stiwanoff, windows 7 has 1 partition for boot and 1 for main os
[17:41] <LoFo> @xangua - OK thanks, i'll give it a shot
[17:41] <vegombrei> hi can i install the netbook edition on my laptop? whats the difference anyway?
[17:41] <sinurge> duffydack, really had no clue it did that
[17:41] <Stiwanoff> it also showed one called windows vista loade
[17:41] <Stiwanoff> r
[17:42] <Stiwanoff> but i never installed vista on my pc
[17:42] <Stiwanoff> so you think i could delete that one?
[17:42] <duffydack> Stiwanoff, you might have some hidden recovery partition from your pc supplier
[17:42] <threeseas> anyone know where the upgrade log file is kept?
[17:42] <Stiwanoff> hm
[17:43] <Stiwanoff> but then I got 4 primary partitions
[17:43] <Stiwanoff> I'll think there is a guide for that problem
[17:43] <Stiwanoff> sry I think I'll check it out^
[17:43] <shortlord> does anyone know how to run awesome as the window manager for gnome under ubuntu? I have made a custom script that exports WINDOW_MANAGER="awesome", the script shows up as an entry in GDM, but when I log in, gnome ignores the export and just loads compiz
[17:43] <duffydack> Stiwanoff,  I`m not sure what the 3rd partition is if you havent installed any other OS...
[17:43] <aleks> hi ;)
[17:44] <vegombrei> hi can i install the netbook edition on my laptop? whats the difference anyway?
[17:44] <aleks> it is possible to share a internet connection on the same interface ?
[17:44] <bitplane> hrmph, still can't find these buttons. I went through each device in lspci and none of them are the buttons. any ideas where to look next?
[17:44] <duffydack> Stiwanoff, so make the 4th partition Extended and install ubuntu on the logical partitions in the extended area.
[17:44] <xangua> vegombrei: yes you can, the interface of UNE is optimized for netbook = a little screen
[17:45] <abhijit> now we need factoied explaining diff between une & desktop edition
[17:45] <Stiwanoff1> duffydack, can that possibly be a recovery partition?
[17:45] <Stiwanoff1> if it's called Windows Vista loader?
[17:45] <soreau> shortlord: check gconf key /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager
[17:45] <vegombrei> xangua thanks bro
[17:45] <arvind_khadri>  hi, I needed some help with installing jffnms, I get an error in the error log of apache telling that jffnms class is not found, in the config file.
[17:45] <duffydack> Stiwanoff,  are you the only 1 who has installed any OS on this machine
[17:46] <shortlord> soreau: I don't want to set awesome as the default for every gnome session, just as the window manager for this GDM entry
[17:47] <switch10_> I did a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-netbook* to switch from UNR to the desktop version.  when a window is maximized, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons are missing.  I have a feeling I need to edit something in gconf-editor, but I can't seem to find the right setting.
[17:47] <soreau> shortlord: Can you make it kill compiz and start awesome in a script?
[17:47] <aleks> i want to connect my wii on the Internet. I have a USB/Ethernet connector plugging on my switch and my pc too. My pc acceed to Internet via a web interface...
[17:47] <shortlord> soreau: that's a good idea, I'll try that
[17:47] <duffydack> Stiwanoff, you should have one that says Windows 7 Loader (its labelled System Reserved in ubuntu) and then you have Win7 main partition..
[17:48] <aleks> how can i share me internet connection to my wii on the same interface/ same network ? it is posssible ?
[17:49] <duffydack> Stiwanoff, the other one I dont know what it is, so I guess if your pc is from a shop/dealer then it might be a recovery/backup partition.  How big is it?
[17:50] <Stiwanoff1> 13 GB
[17:50] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, sounds like something like that then...its your pc though so I`m not gonna put my neck on the line and say it is/isnt :)
[17:51] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, when you boot up do you have a menu to boot recovery/diagnostic/backup ?
[17:51] <Stiwanoff1> I've got memory test
[17:51] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, what make/model is it?
[17:51] <Stiwanoff1> ubuntu
[17:51] <Stiwanoff1> make/model of what?
[17:52] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, no I mean when you press something like F2 or F12 or DEL at boot
[17:52] <Stiwanoff1> yes I've got one
[17:52] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, make and model of your pc
[17:52] <Stiwanoff1> packard bell easynote tj65
[17:54] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1,  well, if you have the choice to boot to a recovery or diagnostic environment then I`d guess its exactly that...  make a full backup if you are going to delete it, otherwise just install ubuntu as normal, using the extra space.
[17:54] <Stiwanoff1> I've already installed it
[17:55] <Stiwanoff1> because there was an option in the installer to install it equal to windwos
[17:55] <Stiwanoff1> parallel
[17:55] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1,  oh... ?  so what is the question again ? lol
[17:55] <Stiwanoff1> both windows and ubuntu have got 320 GB of my hdd
[17:55] <Stiwanoff1> but I want the systems to have just as much space as they need
[17:56] <Stiwanoff1> and to have a partition for storage where I can put my files and use them with both systems
[17:56] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, oh so its resized windows partition to use as space...
[17:56] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, you can mount the win7 partition in ubuntu and read/write to it.
[17:56] <kuttan_> Stiwanoff1 put your files on the cloud
[17:57] <Stiwanoff1> and the other way round?
[17:57] <Stiwanoff1> oh
[17:57] <lucariello> ciao a tutti
[17:57] <Stiwanoff1> I guess that makes not much sense^
[17:57] <ibolmo> i've edited the /etc/fstab so that acl and user_xattr is mounted on reboot
[17:57] <ibolmo> http://paste.ly/6Wt
[17:57] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, nope, only 1 way....o use the extra space and make a storage partition??
[17:57] <ibolmo> but after a reboot mount shows that only the ext2|ext3 are mounted
[17:58] <Ward|> can i dim the display of my laptop when the internal keyboard is messed up?
[17:58] <ibolmo> can someone see if i made a mistake?
[17:58] <ServerTech> god, i forgot the show all processes command again
[17:58] <ibolmo> ps -aux i think
[17:58] <ServerTech> oh
[17:58] <ServerTech> i got ix
[17:58] <ServerTech> ps aux
[17:58] <ServerTech> thx
[17:58] <RedNifre> Hi!
[17:58] <FloodBot3> ServerTech: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <RedNifre> Is there an easy way how to create a video DVD with a simple menu that can be viewed in a normal DVD player on a TV?
[17:59] <Stiwanoff1> yes
[17:59] <Stiwanoff1> I wanted to do that
[17:59] <Stiwanoff1> but I already have 4 primary partitions
[18:00] <Ward|> RedNifre, http://en.linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_Make_a_video_DVD
[18:00] <RedNifre> thank you
[18:00] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, ok...I guess boot to win7, remove the ubuntu partitions, resize it and reinstall
[18:01] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
 does he have scsi drive ? sda?
[18:02] <duffydack> kuttan_,  its sda.
[18:02] <Stiwanoff1> sry whats pastebin?
[18:03] <Stiwanoff1>    Gerät  boot.     Anfang        Ende     Blöcke   Id  System
[18:03] <duffydack> !pastebin > Stiwanoff1
[18:03] <Stiwanoff1> /dev/sda1               1        1530    12288000   27  Unbekannt
[18:03] <Stiwanoff1> /dev/sda2   *        1530        1543      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:03] <Stiwanoff1> /dev/sda3            1543       47193   366685330    7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:03] <Stiwanoff1> /dev/sda4           47193       77826   246053889    5  Erweiterte
[18:03] <Stiwanoff1> /dev/sda5           47193       76579   236041216   83  Linux
[18:03] <FloodBot3> Stiwanoff1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:03] <Stiwanoff1> sorry lol
[18:03] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, ok so from that sda1 is your recovery partition, sda2 is win7 boot and ada3 is win7
[18:04] <mgolisch> anyone able to help me with pulseaudio?
[18:04] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1,  and you have an extended, so you are good to make more partitions.
[18:04] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, resize the ubuntu partition then, and make a fat32 partition.
[18:04] <Stiwanoff1> ok
[18:05] <Anuovis> my system seems to be a bit unstable during shutdowns and reboots (programs hanging up, sometimes the system stops booting). Does anybody have any advice what could I do? Or where to start looking for problems?
[18:05] <Stiwanoff1> and can I also resize the win7 partition?
[18:05] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, was there supposed to be an sda6 in there (swap) ?
[18:05] <aleks> how to share a Internet connection when the Internet access and the node, who wants to access Internet, are on the samed network ?
[18:05] <Stiwanoff1> yes
[18:05] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, k.  floodbot got it :)
[18:06] <Toushirou> vortei
[18:06] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1,  personally what I`d do is boot to win7, remove ubuntu, and resize your win7 partition.. win7 does have a good disk management tool
[18:07] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, then reinstall ubuntu how you need.. just make sure you dont just say yes to default partition.
[18:07] <Stiwanoff1> ok
[18:07] <aleks> T_T
[18:07] <Stiwanoff1> I think I know what to do now
[18:07] <Stiwanoff1> thank you
[18:07] <Stiwanoff1> you were very helpful
[18:07] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, leave some room for a fat32 at the end.
[18:08] <u8untu> i cant install ubuntu .. it gives me an error ... " No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! " ... i tried to install it from CD and it gives me an error with some log .. from docume~1\temp ...
[18:09] <duffydack> damn, I forgot.. does win7 reboot to resize the partition?
[18:10] <duffydack> ah hell I hope not or else it wont work after he`d removed the ubuntu partition :'(
[18:10] <ibolmo> is there a reason why after a reboot ssh connections and even logging in locally takes a "long" time?
[18:10] <ibolmo> ssh connectiosn are timing out as well.
[18:10] <kuttan_> duffydack :P
[18:10] <ilovefairuz> u8untu: did you verify the ISO image before burning the cd?
[18:10] <sinurge> duffydack, yup
[18:10]  * duffydack gets a new identity and moves to different country.
[18:10] <ilovefairuz> !verify | u8untu
[18:10] <u8untu> ilovefairuz i have only windows.. i can`t.. i dont know how :D
[18:11] <ilovefairuz> u8untu: read the above links
[18:11] <noel> hi baby
[18:11] <duffydack> for some reason I seem to think it resizes while inside windows....
[18:11] <sinurge> u8untu, there are windows versions of md5sum checking sw
[18:11] <Guest84284> are girl
[18:11] <u8untu> :)
[18:11] <sinurge> duffydack, lol u think wrong
[18:12] <duffydack> damnit.
[18:12] <atxq> I just installed a package from source and now want to remove it. how can I do this?
[18:12] <ikonia> atxq: manually remove each file it installed, you should not install from source unless you know what you are doing and how to manage it
[18:12] <duffydack> nevermind, he`ll be back using livecd and i`ll get him to restore grub :)
[18:13] <ilovefairuz> ibolmo: i think the sshd performs lazy initialization (when trying to connect to it the first time after a reboot) but after that it usually responds pretty fast
[18:13] <ibolmo> why would I get a "Login timed out after 60 seconds."?
[18:13] <duffydack> er I mean windows mbr.
[18:13] <ibolmo> oops forgot to prepend ilovefairuz to that last sentence.
[18:13] <ibolmo> :D
[18:13] <atxq> is that the only way to remove the package?
[18:13] <ikonia> atxq: that's how you do it because it's not packaged
[18:14] <ilovefairuz> ibolmo: i haven't had that happen before, only initial slow downs
[18:14] <atxq> is there a way to know how many files were created when installed?
[18:15] <ikonia> atxq: read the makefile, or log the output of make install
[18:15] <ilovefairuz> atxq: ikonia: what command did you use to install it? sudo make install? if so, try: sudo make uninstall  .. in the same directory you installed it from
[18:15] <atul> what is meaning of 'v = $ (( $$ % $b )) ' in shell scripting? where 'v' and 'b' are variable
[18:16] <atxq> yeah, I used make, make install
[18:16] <atxq> did not see an uninstall file in the dir
[18:16] <ilovefairuz> atxq: cd to the directory and do: sudo make uninstall
[18:16] <ilovefairuz> it's not a separate file
[18:16] <ikonia> ilovefairuz: make uninstall does not always install, and is dangerous if the libraries have re-placed system libraries
[18:16] <ikonia> do NOT do make uninstall blindly
[18:16] <Ward|> how do i dim my laptop display without the keyboard (fn key) please?
[18:17] <duffydack> Ward|,  brightness applet (add to panel)
[18:17] <ilovefairuz> ikonia: USUALLY no system libraries are replaced, that's rather rare
[18:17] <Ward|> duffydack, thanx
[18:17] <ikonia> ilovefairuz: nonsense, you don't know a.) what he's installed b.) what his --prefix was c.) what's linked against the libraries it installed
[18:17] <arzhar> guys, is there a way to record what fps did i get with certain application or game ?
[18:17] <atxq> so I get the following message "rm -f /usr/local/bin/lkl"
[18:18] <jklehm> hello,  I'm trying to install 64bit ubuntu 10.04 from a usbstick...installer seems to be stuck at 78%...is this normal?  it's been 10 minutes with no progress
[18:18] <atxq> that is it?
[18:18] <csis> what is the easiest way to make bootable usb on ubuntU ?
[18:18] <atxq> I was expecting more
[18:18] <karmic-koala> Hi guys whilst trying to connect to my own samba share using smbclient -L localhost -N  ; I have no problems with that but smbclient -L my_ip -N fails with Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED, any thoughts
[18:18] <ikonia> jklehm: not normal no
[18:18] <brorjonas> Luckybackup or flyback?
[18:18] <jklehm> csis: administration -> make startup disk
[18:18] <ilovefairuz> atxq: that's normal
[18:18] <ikonia> atxq: it's an application you installed, you need to find out what it installed
[18:18] <csis> jklehm, thank you
[18:19] <csis> jklehm, though, I don't have that
[18:19] <csis> Under administration
[18:19] <Ward|> duffydack, thanx thats perfect :) i can just click it and then scroll
[18:19] <jklehm> csis:  hrmm that's where it is on my 10.04
[18:20] <u8untu> i dont know how to use the md5sum
[18:20] <u8untu> in windows
[18:20] <csis> jklehm, oh I've found it.
[18:20] <jklehm> csis: "Startup Disk Creator"
[18:20] <ilovefairuz> ikonia: neither assuming that packages replace system libraries is sensible.. usually make uninstall works well (and --prefix is taken into account)
[18:20] <ikonia> u8untu: ask in ##windows
[18:20] <ikonia> ilovefairuz: I didn't assume, that's why I said he needs to research what it installed
[18:20] <Ale_> can anyone here describe how you would have a ssd drive for the os and program, while using a hdd for files?
[18:21] <ikonia> Ale_: install ubuntu to the SSD drive, and put a mount point such as /data on the second disk
[18:21] <ikonia> Ale_: that way your OS runs from the SSD, and all your info is in /data on the second disk, or maybe use /home for your personal data on the second disk
[18:21] <rockhopper> yh
[18:22] <rockhopper> but there wont be much of a difference in performance i guess
[18:22] <jklehm> Ale_: id leave your home/user on the ssd, but have the Videos, Pictures folders on the other drive
[18:22] <rockhopper> coz a hdd's sufficient and fast enough to access system files
[18:23] <Ale_> alright
[18:23] <jefinc> what do I use for a remote desktop SERVER?
[18:23] <rockhopper> Ale_, install everything on ssd and mount your hdd for the data
[18:24] <jklehm> jefinc: doesnt gnome have abuilt in remote desktop vnc server
[18:24] <Ale_> cool, thought it was more complicated than that
[18:24] <rockhopper> ssd's difference can be found when copying or reading large files
[18:24] <switch10_> jefinc: the ip of the machine you want to connect to
[18:24] <|Twilo|> hello, I use ubuntu JeOS with lxde-core. how can I change the keyboard layout with the keyboard layout switcher applet in the task bar or is there another way to set the keyboard layout in the gui?
[18:25] <jefinc> jklehm: is it automatically running?
[18:26] <Poul|Raider> sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth1 --dport 4000 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.11:3389   i used this, but somehow its not forwarding requests coming in on eth1:4000 to the pc at 192.168.0.11.3389
[18:26] <switch10_> jefinc: it may be automatically detected if its a machine on your network
[18:26] <amokpaule> Hello, i have an nvidia card and i use the nvidia drivers, i also have 2 screens. In twinview windows get now expand over the 2 screens can i set it that when a window is maximized that it will only be streched over 1 screen , windows like?
[18:26] <rooks> spd-say doesnt ouptput sound, whats wrong?
[18:26] <jefinc> switch10_: how do I edit the settings of the server?
[18:26] <rockhopper> amokpaule, yeah
[18:27] <rockhopper> use extended desktop option, not the twinview
[18:27] <switch10_> jefinc: edit the settings of the server?  do you mean like set a static IP?
[18:27] <amokpaule> Can i find that in nvidia-settings?
[18:27] <rockhopper> yeah
[18:27] <jefinc> switch10_: to setup a username/port etc
[18:28] <rockhopper> amokpaule, i think its in the advanced settings of nvidia-settings window
[18:28] <Zoffix> So, wanted to tell original people that my Blue Trace mouse started to work after I rebooted...
[18:28] <switch10_> jefinc: you are trying to VNC to a machine on your network via system>prefs>remote desktop correct?
[18:29] <kn100> is there a way to check is a process is running and if it isn't to run it
[18:29] <jefinc> switch10_: ah that's where the preferences are ..... hah k sorry, didn't really look :\
[18:31] <Guest84284> hibaby
[18:32] <Leemp> What is the linux command to locate the directory of a command/exec? (eg: what is the dir of python. what is the dir of apt-get, etc.)
[18:32] <MichealH> !ot | Guest84284
[18:32] <amokpaule> rockhopper: Ty
[18:32] <amokpaule> but i cant find the setting^^
[18:33] <rockhopper> I'm using the extended desktop setting on my home pc
[18:33] <WJW> Remark: every version of openoffice.org (OOo) calc (the spreadsheet program) tends to crash.
[18:33] <|Twilo|> Leemp: which command
[18:33] <rockhopper> in nvidia screen setup, there shud be anoption for twin monitor setting, in it you can find the other option
[18:34] <WJW> Remark: A .xls file saved by gnumeric can break OOo.
[18:34] <rockhopper> try it, it'll solve the problem, but its been long since i've tried out the setting
[18:34] <amokpaule> ok ty
[18:35] <rockhopper> is anyone using UNR here?
[18:35] <MichealH> rockhopper: Nope
[18:35] <MichealH> But I will try to help :P
[18:35] <kn100> is there a way to check is a process is running and if it isn't to run it
[18:35] <rockhopper> I'm using UNR on my netbook(lenovo s10-3), and my brightness button's not working.
[18:36] <MichealH> kn100: Look in System Monitor
[18:36] <rockhopper> But it works fine on windows
[18:36] <kn100> MichealH, automated
[18:36] <rockhopper> I've tried googling, but i can only find questions unanswered
[18:36] <Feroy> does anyone know how to view registry files? like getting to hkey_current_user tso i can open some progrems with opengl?
[18:36] <MichealH> rockhopper: Is there a pannel applet for brightness?
[18:37] <MichealH> Feroy: Registry doesnt work like that in Ubuntu
[18:37] <WebDawg> Why should I install ubuntu netbook edition instead of the reg?
[18:37] <rockhopper> MichealH, Sorry i didnt get you!!
[18:37] <Feroy> ok, then how to i open a progrem in opengl mode?
[18:37] <yy> I have a LCD connected to my laptop, using Ubuntu, can I use two screens as seperate desktop  ?
[18:37] <xangua> WebDawg: because you use a netbook¿
[18:37] <rockhopper> I cant control brightness in any setting
[18:37] <zzzed> kn100, e.g. for gdm use ps aux | grep -e gdm to see if gdm is running. to start use sudo service gdm start
[18:37] <WebDawg> I want to enable encryption so should I not use the alternative?
[18:38] <MichealH> yy: Of course!
[18:38] <WebDawg> xangua, but what are the REAL differences?
[18:38] <Ward|> Feroy, you're not making any sense :s
[18:38] <yy> MichealH: how ?
[18:38] <kn100> zzzed, the entire process has to be automated
[18:38] <MichealH> yy: I dont know but I know iths possible
[18:38] <rockhopper> MichealH,  There's no option or panel to control brightness here
[18:38] <kn100> basically if process isn't running then run it
[18:38] <Feroy> ok i have a program (warcraft III0 that uses direct x, i need to run it in opengl mode
[18:38] <Quantum_Ion> How do you get rid of gnome-keyring ?
[18:38] <yy> :(
[18:38] <MichealH> rockhopper: Ahh
[18:38] <Ward|> Feroy, so you are using wine?
[18:38] <xangua> WebDawg: UNE has a better interface for netbooks = little screen
[18:39] <Quantum_Ion> gnome keyring is annoying ?
[18:39] <Feroy> i installed it with wine, and i read somewhere that wine comes with regedit but i cannot find it
[18:39] <ankit> hi guys
[18:39] <WebDawg> How is the interface differet xangua ?
[18:39] <rockhopper> MichealH, I'm thinking that its not recognising the specific button may be!!
[18:39] <weed37> hey guys looking for some help in repairing a sata laptop hdd that has some bas sectors
[18:39] <weed37> bad*
[18:39] <rockhopper> but i'm not sure whats wrong
[18:39] <MichealH> rockhopper: Is there keyboard drivers for your netbook?
[18:39] <MichealH> You *need* them
[18:40] <xangua> WebDawg: http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook
[18:40] <WJW> Weed37, "man badblocks"
[18:40] <yy> I have a LCD connected to my laptop, using Ubuntu, can I use two screens as seperate desktop  ?
[18:40] <rockhopper> MichealH, My volume button, and other media buttons like sleep and music buttons work fine
[18:40] <ankit> i recieve a long beeping sounds at startup,its ram problem,what to do,i have a good ram bought 2 years agao
[18:40] <Ward|> Feroy, just run regedit and it should start wine i think (i don't have wine on this installation)
[18:40] <MichealH> !patience | yy
[18:40] <MichealH> Hmmm...
[18:40] <Feroy> thats just it i cant find regedit
[18:40] <kn100> is there a way to check is a process is running and if it isn't to run it
[18:40] <rockhopper> MichealH,  Only the brightness buttons're not working..
[18:40] <yy> :<<
[18:41] <weed37> yes WJW
[18:41] <philinux> ankit: go to motherborads website and check out what the beep codes mean
[18:41] <MichealH> rockhopper: That is weird indeed
[18:41] <rockhopper> yeah..
[18:41] <dogmatic69> can i create a "shortcut" to some folder?
[18:41]  * MichealH seconds philinux 
[18:41] <dogmatic69> or just to files?
[18:41] <yy> where is the display section in Ubuntu ?
[18:41] <ankit> it says ram problem
[18:41] <MichealH> dogmatic69: Yeah, a Symb Link
[18:41]  * philinux omnipotent
[18:41] <MichealH> But dont ask me how
[18:41] <Ward|> Feroy, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1177
[18:42] <WJW> weed37, can you back your files up to another disk?
[18:42] <weed37> hdd is formatted
[18:42] <Feroy> ive been there
[18:42] <zzzed> dogmatic69, man ln
[18:42] <weed37> to fat 32 WJW
[18:42] <Feroy> and they say to fix it i need to run in open gl but i dont know how!
[18:42] <dogmatic69> i was doing sudo ls -s /var/www/ /home/dogmatic69/websites
[18:43] <Ward|> Feroy, there's also #winehq
[18:43] <dogmatic69> does /home/dogmatic69/websites need to exist?
[18:43] <WJW> weed37, maybe use cpio to back your files to one file on the fat32.  then use badblocks to map your bad blocks, and then make a new file system that goes around them using the mkfs for your preferred file-system type.
[18:43] <MichealH> dogmatic69: Yes
[18:43] <yy> I dont have System->Preferences->Display :<
[18:44] <EbanSoul> system / preferences / monitor i think
[18:44] <weed37> ty WJW
[18:44] <rockhopper> MichealH, I found this page, but have no idea of any solution given there https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/538256
[18:44] <zzzed> dogmatic69, no it does not need to exist, use sudo ln -s /var/www /home/dogmatic69/websites
[18:44] <b43confused> hi.  is it possible to change my ext4 partitions to ext2 without damaging the data.
[18:45] <dogmatic69> zzzed: that is what i did...
[18:45] <dogmatic69> ls: cannot access /home/dogmatic69/websites: No such file or directory
[18:45] <zzzed> dogmatic69 the command is "ln" not "ls"
[18:45] <dogmatic69> lol
[18:45] <dogmatic69> thanks
[18:48] <WJW> b43confused, do you have another disk to which you could back up your files?
[18:49] <b43confused> not easily.
[18:49] <b43confused> so i would have to back up everything on the disk and then reinstall?
[18:49] <WJW> b43confused, not sure whether there's another way.  Maybe just changing some settings with debugfs would make the ext4 fs behave like ext2.
[18:50] <Leemp> |Twilo|: Thanks! I almost replied to you with "That's what i am asking." because i though you were asking me which command i was talking about xD
[18:50] <MichealH> rockhopper: Refresh the page :)
[18:50] <WJW> b43confused, running a system without backups is risky anyway.
[18:50] <rockhopper> MichealH, err?? I didnt get you
[18:51] <b43confused> well,  the deal is that i want to be able to mount my linux partition from my windows partition.  can i do that with an ext4 if i edit that config file?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> WJW: +1
[18:51] <|Twilo|> Leemp: :-)
[18:51] <SuperMiguel> if i have a wireless connection, where do i add the settings so that my system will connect on every reboot???
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> b43confused: if you use ext3 it can be accessed using www.fs-driver.org
[18:51] <MichealH> rockhopper: Refresh the bug report
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> SuperMiguel: network-manager should do that
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> SuperMiguel: or you can use wicd
[18:51] <b43confused> it is already ext4.  and when i try to mount it from windows it asks if i want to reformat it now
[18:52] <rockhopper> Is there a solution in it?
[18:52] <WJW> b43confused, there might be software for cygwin that can read linux partitions from windows.
[18:52] <rockhopper> MichealH, Is there a solution in it?
[18:52] <SuperMiguel> ActionParsnip, how about if i until use the cli?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> b43confused: windows cannot access ext4 yet, even though the specification is open, microsoft have been too ignorant / lazy to code the system to be able to access it
[18:52] <MichealH> rockhopper: Oh yeah Sure I am 100 percent sure
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> SuperMiguel: you can use /etc/network/interfaces
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> SuperMiguel: or wicd-curses is a cli network management app
[18:53] <WJW> b43confused, if you set up an NTFS partition, you can read and write it from Linux and from Windows.
[18:53] <b43confused> i'm actually more annoyed at the Linux community than at MIcrosoft for releasing an incompatible system
[18:53]  * duffydack loz at b43confused
[18:53] <b43confused> right.  ntfs can be read from linux.  ext2 can be read from microsoft so can ext3.  but ext4 can not
[18:53] <WJW> b43confused, ntfs can't represent the attributes of a file per POSIX.
[18:53] <rockhopper> I've tried the code "sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=??" But i dont know the other color codes than 00 and FF
[18:54] <b43confused> there is ext2explore which works okay but  kind of sucks
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> b43confused: funny how linux can access ntfs, despite the specification being hidden and proprietary, yet microsoft cannot code access to ext4 despite the definition being clear tyo see. If you think Linux is at fault you are sadly mistaken
[18:54] <WJW> b43confused, if Linux were compatible with Windows, it wouldn't be compatible with Unix.
[18:55] <b43confused> well anyways.  back to the question.  is there any way to access ext4 from a windows partition
[18:55] <WJW> Does anyone know for a fact that cygwin doesn't have an ext4 driver?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> b43confused: not yet, keep your eyes on the fs-driver project
[18:56] <b43confused> k
[18:56] <WJW> I heard that ext4 had some troubles; maybe it's not ready for prime time.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> b43confused: pressure microsoft to support it. You coudl always make a large ntfs partitionwhich both OSes can access mutually, or use dropbox etc (or some other web storage)
[18:57] <WJW> b43confused, look into Cygwin.
[18:57] <duffydack> unless I have terrabytes of info I`d boot a livecd and mount my external drive and cp -av everything to that, format the ext4 to ext3 and copy it all back, and edit fstab to suit.
[18:58] <WJW> Several people on this channel may be talking about situations where there is some reason to back up the files from a file system.
[18:58] <b43confused> (1) although we all hate microsoft, i don't think this is microsoft's fault.  (2)  i will check into cygwin
[18:58] <WJW> Sometimes a solution is to back up the personal and data files, then reinstall Ubuntu.
[18:58] <EbanSoul> can't u just back them up as a tar file ?
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> b43confused: i dont hate microsoft and it IS entirely their fault
[18:59] <cahl-hith> Is ubuntu vulnerable to viruses?
[18:59] <WJW> You can use tar if you have a medium to store the tar file.
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> cahl-hith: there are a few but they only reside in labs
[18:59] <duffydack> cahl-hith, not really.. only reckless users
[19:00] <mneptok> duffydack: that's misleading. Linux is vulnerable like any other piece of human-made software. it's just far more difficult, and thus in practice not an issue.
[19:00] <cahl-hith> utorrent seems to be freezing my computer
[19:00] <Lifeless_0x2D> hi all
[19:00] <duffydack> mneptok, what I meant by reckless users
[19:00] <WJW> cahl-hith, some years ago there was an "internet worm" that attacked Unix-like systems.  But viruses that attack them are much less common than those that attack Microsoft Windows.
[19:01] <cahl-hith> Is there a better torrent downloader that works better with ubtuntu?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> cahl-hith: any bugs logged for it
[19:01] <mneptok> cahl-hith: try Transmission. it's installed by default.
[19:01] <cahl-hith> oh
[19:01] <cahl-hith> ok
[19:01] <Lifeless_0x2D> who is russian?
[19:01] <WJW> cahl-hith, I never heard of anyone running antivirus software (on the immunities model) on Linux, Unix, or Apple.
[19:01] <hv> Is there an extension I can set for a text file containing a url, such that double clicking on the file will open the link in the browser?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> WJW: I do, its a samba fileserver. Saves the windows clients passing viruses to each other
[19:02] <WJW> cahl-hith, I use Transmission.  I have had no trouble with it except suspecting it may contribute to my router hanging up (which it eventually does anyway even if I'm not running Transmission).
[19:02] <BiggFREE> I cannot do sudo Xorg -configure  (Already active)
[19:02] <mneptok> WJW: if you run a production mail server on Linux/Unix without an AV scanner, you're being complacent. :)
[19:03] <WJW> mneptok, what parts of a production mail server are vulnerable to viruses?
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> cahl-hith: i use transmission headless and transmission-gui on the client systems. Works great
[19:03] <mneptok> WJW: every user that pipes mail off it to a vulnerable system
[19:03] <BiggFREE> I cannot do sudo Xorg -configure (Already active)
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> BiggFREE: do it in a root recovery console
[19:04] <WJW> mneptok, does the scanner just look for viruses that attack Microsoft Windows systems?
[19:04] <BiggFREE> ActionParsnip: What that means ?
[19:04] <mneptok> WJW: depends on the solution you use.
[19:04] <cahl-hith> ugh
[19:04] <cahl-hith> it is so slow
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> BiggFREE: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[19:05] <WJW> mneptok, can you cite a company that sells AV for Linux?
[19:05] <cahl-hith> Are there any faster downloaders that work with ubuntu?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> WJW: sells AV..hmm
[19:05] <BiggFREE> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[19:05] <mneptok> WJW: http://www.avg.com/us-en/product-avg-server-edition-for-linux
[19:05] <WJW> tnx
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> WJW: http://www.avast.com/server-edition
[19:06] <cahl-hith> transmission is only downloading at a rate from .1kb/s to 5kb/s
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> cahl-hith: is your bandwidth being used by any other apps?
[19:06] <cahl-hith> nope
[19:06] <mneptok> cahl-hith: give it time to negotiate with peers. and stop other torrent clients that may be hogging bandwidth.
[19:07] <Dekkard> off topic.. is p111 686?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Dekkard: yes it is
[19:07] <WJW> cahl-hith, how long has it been since you started the download in Transmission?
[19:07] <Dekkard> thanks ActionParsnip
[19:07] <cahl-hith> a few minutes
[19:07] <cahl-hith> utorrent was much better when it wasnt freezing the computer
[19:08] <duffydack> cahl-hith, right ports configured?
[19:08] <cahl-hith> yeah
[19:08] <cahl-hith> assuming it uses the same ports as utorrent
[19:08] <duffydack> cahl-hith,  check its prefs.. Ive never used utorrent
[19:09] <cahl-hith> ok
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Dekkard: generally the early pentiums of less than 100Mhz were 586s, the rest are 686
[19:09] <qschzt> hi, is there a channel for bridge / kvm stuff? :)
[19:09] <qschzt> getting loads of packet loss after kvm bridged setup..
[19:09] <marmot> hi, when booting from ubuntu netbook usb bootdisc I'm getting nothing but "Boot error" message. Lenovo ideapad S12. What can it be?
[19:09] <WJW> ActionParsnip and mneptok, so are these guys cataloging known viruses that attack Linux/Unix they way people like McAfee and Norton catalog known viruses that attack Microsoft OS?
[19:10] <oal> When I start Wolf:ET all other sound is killed
[19:10] <cahl-hith> what about limewire?
[19:10] <mneptok> WJW: no, these companies are santizing mail before it gets piped to average end-users that will click anything they see.
[19:10] <cahl-hith> Does that work on ubtuntu if I use wine?
[19:10] <cahl-hith> *ubuntu
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> WJW: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
[19:10] <oal> So if I run Grooveshark+ET, I can only hear ET, and when quitting ET again there's no sound
[19:10] <kuttan_> what is limewire
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> cahl-hith: no need, limewire is a client to the gnutella network so you can use frostwire which runs on linux
[19:11] <mneptok> cahl-hith: it's NOT the client you're using. Transmission works just fine.
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> !limewire
[19:11] <LjL> cahl-hith: why would you need to use wine? it's a java program, it runs on linux
[19:11] <jaybee> In ubutnu, with samba installed, how can I list nebios names?
[19:11] <LjL> !limewire > cahl-hith
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> jaybee: smbtree
[19:11] <jaybee> thanks
[19:11] <WJW> ActionParsnip and mneptok, so I guess my point still stands that Linux and other Unix-like systems have so little risk of invasion by viruses, that it has not become economical to use an "immune system"-like catalog of virusus to protect them.
[19:11] <cahl-hith> owait nvm
[19:12] <cahl-hith> I only found 2 peers
[19:12] <cahl-hith> :/
[19:12] <zzzed> cahl-hith, transmission works best for me
[19:13] <mneptok> WJW: there is nothing about Unix that makes it immediately immune to malware. if there was, there would never be CVN reports.
[19:15] <WJW> mneptok, what is CVN?
[19:16] <mneptok> WJW: sorry, typo. still waking up. "CVE"
[19:16] <mneptok> WJW: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[19:16] <WJW> Of course there are vulnerabilities in Linux/Unix, but the risk has a very different profile than that with Microsoft.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> WJW: true, that fact that the default user model for windows is admin does it no favours for one
[19:17] <uptownben> Hi All.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> !up | uptownben
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> !hi
[19:18] <kuttan_> !hello
[19:18] <WJW> As far as I know, the usual response to the discovery of vulnerabilities in the Unix/Linux world is to repair the vulnerability.  But Microsoft users pay an annual fee for updates to their immune systems.
[19:19] <WJW> Running Microsoft without buying immune updates is considered foolish.
[19:19] <uptownben> Just wanted to ask if the most recent version of Ubuntu would run on a Pentium II with 128MB RAM? command line interface only, no GUI
[19:19] <mneptok> o/~ Uptown Ben. He's just looking for an IRC friend. I just hope he doesn't say "Hi," again. We'll have to !repeat factoid him then. Not if but when.  o/~
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> uptownben: apsolutely, as long as you arent running too many services on it
[19:20] <uptownben> Probably just Samba
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> uptownben: it'd even run LUbuntu but if you need a simple file / torrent server it'll be fine
[19:20] <norty> Hello, I just bought a Lenovo ThinkPad T410 and I installed Ubuntu 9.10 on it. I'm having problems getting it to like my intel graphics driver. Everytime I try to boot it shows the ubuntu splash screen and then right before the login screen it goes blank. When I change the driver to vesa im able to login and see my GUI desktop but i can't get my resolution set to 1440x900. Does anyone know what I should do?
[19:20] <LjL> mneptok: you're odd
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> uptownben: it's more than enough dude, no worries
[19:20] <jaybee> Why would iptabes -F cease all traffic on ubuntu, nat not being used?
[19:20] <uptownben> Coolio!
[19:20] <mneptok> LjL: you're just noticing. how cute.
[19:20] <uptownben> thanks guys/gals
[19:22] <splnet> whats the best way to restart udevd?
[19:22] <blup> is there a way of searching and replacing text in file/directory names?
[19:22] <kuttan_> splnet: reboot
[19:23] <kuttan_> blup perl regex
[19:23] <WJW> What virtualization solution will let a guest Windows see the CPU serial number or whatever it looks at to convince itself it is running on the machine it's licensed for?
[19:23] <splnet> kuttan_: heh this isn't windows
[19:24] <WJW> blup, I use "ed" to mung a copy of the file/directory names into the commands to rename them.
[19:24] <kuttan_> splnet: my my we seem to have acquired some new knowhow :D
[19:24] <blup> kuttan_: i have a snippet for search/replace within files, but i'd like to do it with file names themselves: find ./ -type f | xargs sed -i 's/string1/string2/g'
[19:25] <solofight> help | i have installled apache from source, now i want it to start during boot time instead of me starting it everytime
[19:25] <kuttan_> blup: so you wish to rename the files ?
[19:25] <pixelmischief> "wodim dev=/dev/sr0 -msinfo" returns "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read toc scsi sendcmd: no error" because Kernel 2.6 disallows direct SCSI commands to devices.  This breaks multisession disc recording.  How do I get around this?
[19:25] <blup> kuttan_: yes
[19:25] <kuttan_> solofight rc.local
[19:25] <kuttan_> blup: nautilus , actions ?
[19:25] <blup> kuttan_: same concept but with filenames rather than their contents
[19:25] <solofight> i have seen a GUI for making this happen before, where i can play with runlevels, i forgot name, can somebody please help ?
[19:25] <solofight> kuttan_, ? rc.local ?
[19:26] <mneptok> solofight: why not install the package?
[19:26] <solofight> mneptok, cause i wanted to learn this way
[19:26] <kuttan_> solofight /etc/rc.local
[19:26] <mneptok> solofight: if you do not know how to edit rc files, you probably should not be compiling a web server from source.
[19:26] <splnet> kuttan_: clearly you are new linux user
[19:27] <kuttan_> splnet ahhem ..
[19:27] <solofight> mneptok, well yes i do not know, but i wanted to change my state
[19:27] <solofight> kuttan_, ok thank you will have a look at that
[19:27] <solofight> and one more doubt with apache
[19:27] <kuttan_> solofight sure ...
[19:28] <solofight> how can i set a custom directory as DirectoryRoot
[19:28] <solofight> ?
[19:28] <solofight> like i want some /var/mydirectory as directoryroot
[19:28] <solofight> when i change the DirectoryRoot setting in httpd.conf and browse through it says forbidden
  you mean <Alias> ...
[19:28] <pixelmischief> "wodim dev=/dev/sr0 -msinfo" returns "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read toc scsi sendcmd: no error" because Kernel 2.6 disallows direct SCSI commands to devices.  This breaks multisession disc recording.  How do I get around this?
[19:28] <norty> brb trying a new fix
[19:29] <solofight> kuttan_, i need to install mod_alias and create a alias is that the only solution ?
[19:29] <solofight> or i can also play with symlinks ?
[19:29] <kuttan_> solofight , rewrting the ruleset  you wish to try
[19:30] <kuttan_> symlinks are dangerous
[19:30] <solofight> so the best is install mod_alias and create a alias dir for document root
[19:30] <solofight> ? kuttan_ ^
[19:31] <mneptok> solofight: no
[19:31] <mneptok> solofight: you edit your apache config file
[19:31] <kuttan_> enable mod_alias
[19:31] <jameswannabe> Im new to Linux and irc
[19:31] <solofight> ok thank you kuttan_  and mneptok
[19:32] <jameswannabe> hi can someone help me
[19:32] <codebrainz> hi.  i was trying to install scons but the install just sits there forever, until i kill apt-get and delete the lock file so i can use apt-get again.  how do i tell apt-get to stop trying to install scons (and locking up)
[19:32] <kuttan_> jameswannabe ask splnet
[19:32] <asdf_baron> Hi.  I'm trying to install and test Unity on my standard Lucid install.  When I log into unity I get a flashing white screen.  I've installed gnome-shell in the past so I'm thinking some packages might be conflicting?
[19:32] <jameswannabe> what and how to ask dplnet?
[19:33] <mneptok> kuttan_: please don't be snarky
[19:34] <kuttan_> mneptok blame the victim ?
[19:34] <splnet> jameswannabe: just ask here in the channel
[19:34] <jameswannabe> ok
[19:34] <pixelmischief> "wodim dev=/dev/sr0 -msinfo" returns "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read toc scsi sendcmd: no error" because Kernel 2.6 disallows direct SCSI commands to devices.  This breaks multisession disc recording.  How do I get around this?
[19:34] <jameswannabe> im trying to get Logitec webcam to work w/ Ubuntu
[19:34] <mneptok> kuttan_: be helpful, or say nothing. this channel is not for you to air your personal greivances.
[19:35] <kuttan_> mneptok logically I pointed to the right person .. anyway ...
[19:35] <asdf_baron> any ideas for a flashing white screen in Unity?
[19:35] <lahwran> hey all, looking for some wget support. (don't !ask, I'm typing)
[19:35] <jameswannabe> im trying to get Logitec webcam to work w/ Ubuntu can someone tell me what software might work?
[19:35] <Rooig> Anyone having complete hangs with all the updates and kernel 2.6.32-24 ? :(((((
[19:36] <Rooig> Anyone having complete hangs with all the updates 10.04 and kernel 2.6.32-24 ? :(((((
[19:36] <splnet> kuttan_: what makes you say that?
[19:36] <mneptok> splnet: please let it drop.
[19:37] <lahwran> I want to get the list of books and dates from my library site, but they use session cookies during auth, so I need a way to wget the form, figure out what values it wants for the session keys, send those as a POST to the next page, and then follow whatever cookies it sends.
[19:37] <pixelmischief> jameswannabe, logi webcam on ubuntu is well covered in many places on the web.  google "ubuntu logitech webcam"
[19:37] <splnet> jameswannabe: make sure your device has support for linux
[19:37] <lahwran> ^ can this all be done from wget (+sed+grep)?
[19:37] <codebrainz> lahwran, i think curl is better for this
[19:37] <jameswannabe> thx for hlp
[19:38] <lahwran> codebrainz, ok. how would you do it with curl?
[19:38] <jrib> lahwran: wget man page talks about using cookies from your browser though nowadays you need to convert the sqlite db that firefox is using
[19:38] <kuttan_> okay splnet mneptok no hard feelings ..ciao
[19:38] <codebrainz> lahwran, http://curl.haxx.se/docs/httpscripting.html
[19:38] <lahwran> jrib, I'm aware that wget can do that. since the cookies are session cookies, they'll expire when I close the browser.
[19:38] <pixelmischief> jameswannabe, logi webcam on ubuntu is well covered in many places on the web.  google "ubuntu logitech webcam"
[19:38] <wetsocksmell> On my wife's nbe notebook she has multiple linux-images, 2.6.32.24-generic being the last one installed leaving next to no space left on her tiny drive. Can I delete the older images safely and how do I do this?thx 4 any hlp.
[19:38] <pixelmischief> "wodim dev=/dev/sr0 -msinfo" returns "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read toc scsi sendcmd: no error" because Kernel 2.6 disallows direct SCSI commands to devices.  This breaks multisession disc recording.  How do I get around this?
[19:39] <splnet> kuttan_: no worries
[19:39] <jrib> lahwran: man page discusses session cookies too though how to get them from your browser I am not sure
[19:40] <hotmonkeyluv> I have a 73gb raptor and 4 1tb seagates. I am wondering how to get the most performance out of them. Do I use the single raptor, or use 2 of the 1tb drives in a raid 0, or can I use 4 1tb drives in a raid 0, or is it worth it to buy another raptor?
[19:40] <jrib> lahwran: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2208/ may help
[19:41] <lahwran> interesting..
[19:41] <lahwran> I'd still prefer to do it right, by avoiding the browser
[19:41] <jklehm> what should i do if my install is stuck at 79% "Scanning CD rom"
[19:41] <lahwran> 'cause there is a good chance it will eventually expire
[19:41] <jrib> lahwran: personally, I would use python mechanize :/
[19:42] <lahwran> jrib, no duh. why didn't I think of that?
[19:43] <lahwran> wow that is a really powerful module O.O
[19:43] <lahwran> thanks a ton!!
[19:43] <jrib> lahwran: yep, it's awesome
[19:44] <pixelmischief> "wodim dev=/dev/sr0 -msinfo" returns "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read toc scsi sendcmd: no error" because Kernel 2.6 disallows direct SCSI commands to devices.  This breaks multisession disc recording.  How do I get around this?
[19:44] <maglos> hotmonkeyluv you could make 73gb partitions on each of your 1tb disks and raid 0 all 5 disks, however if you want fast seek times, get an intel ssd
[19:45] <asdf_baron> is there a unity devoted channel?
[19:45] <Rooig> Anyone having freezes with all the updates and kernel 2.6.32-24 ubuntu 10.04 ? :(((((
[19:45] <Rooig> to the point that i have to restart my computer :S
[19:45] <cahl-hith> omg this omelette is delicious!
[19:45] <cahl-hith> oops
[19:45] <cahl-hith> sorry wrong channel
[19:45] <Rooig> with 2.6.32-21 all is working well
[19:45] <hotmonkeyluv> maglos, i just wanted high-ish performance with what I have, and I'm not sure that I want to drop $400 on 60gb.
[19:46] <pixelmischief> anyone know how to burn multisession cd's in 10.04?
[19:47] <hotmonkeyluv> pixelmischief, I think it's the default.
[19:47] <splnet> pixelmischief: if you haven't tried it yet, I'd recommend k3b.
[19:47] <pixelmischief> "wodim dev=/dev/sr0 -msinfo" fails when I try to buirn the second session.
[19:48] <duffydack> pixelmischief, growisofs -M
[19:49] <pixelmischief> splnet, i've tried that, cdrdao, nero, and everything.  Isn't this the direct scsi command block in kernel 2.6?
[19:50] <maglos> hotmonkeyluv, if it were me and assuming I was running linux, I might boot off a small partition on the raptor then mount a software raid 0 between a 1tb disk and the raptor for redundancy.
[19:51] <hotmonkeyluv> maglos, why software raid?
[19:51] <maglos> i doubt you could hardware raid your raptor too a partition in your 1 tb disk
[19:51] <pixelmischief> duffydack, i've tried that, cdrdao, nero, and everything.  Isn't this the direct scsi command block in kernel 2.6?
[19:52] <hotmonkeyluv> maglos, hmmm, I suppose.
[19:52] <maglos> and its ~98% as fast as hardware
[19:52] <maglos> or something
[19:52] <hotmonkeyluv> maglos, oh, I thought it was much slower
[19:53] <duffydack> pixelmischief, try k3b then.  it needs kde libs but its a good program...
[19:53] <maglos> na its pretty good, in linux anyway. The only issue is, its a pain to boot off, and will take a little bit to track down the commands
[19:53] <pixelmischief> duffydack, tried it
[19:53] <maglos> you have to make a new virtual device for the raid, its a small pain
[19:54] <hotmonkeyluv> phooey
[19:54] <hotmonkeyluv> i don't like working for stuff
[19:54] <shane2peru> is it possible to compile mplayer with w64codecs?  or aren't there very many 64codecs out there?  or do I need to compile mplayer for 32bit?
[19:54] <Techathy> I'm usinhg on-board sound (Intel HDA/ RTL ALC888) & have very low line out signal levels despite the alsa sliders being on maximum. Is there any way to boost the line level produced by the card?
[19:55] <pixelmischief> "wodim dev=/dev/sr0 -msinfo" returns "Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read toc scsi sendcmd: no error" How do I get around this?
[19:55] <smw> !medibuntu | shane2peru
[19:55] <hotmonkeyluv> Techathy, make sure you've got it set to line out and not headphone out, I had the same problem
[19:55] <xangua> shane2peru: or you could just install the w64 codecs
[19:55] <Techathy> hotmonkeyluv: how does one do that on the command line?
[19:55] <emilio> hi all
[19:55] <abhijit> hi
[19:55] <maglos> well their is some amount of work in any path. you could just raid your two 1tb, boot off that and put your /bin etc on your raptor, that would be quick and reliable
[19:55] <hotmonkeyluv> Techathy, via cli, i don't know.
[19:55] <shane2peru> xangua, I did and it didn't cut it, lacking codecs
[19:55] <emilio> can i have some support on this chat?
[19:55] <abhijit> !ask | emilio
[19:56] <smw> shane2peru, there is just about nothing vlc can't play :-)
[19:56] <hotmonkeyluv> maglos, yeah,  but I don't know if i need to put /bin and whatnot into a 73 gb drive, a bit overkill, isn't it?
[19:56] <Techathy> that said headphone is set to mute & I'm getting sound output so I don't think that's the issue
[19:56] <ilker> i've just installed ubuntu, what is superuser password?
[19:56] <erik_> hi all
[19:56] <shane2peru> xangua,  it is a wmv file, and it complains about: Requested video codec family [wmsdmod] (vfm=dmo) not available.
[19:57] <smw> ilker, whatever your password is is the sudo password
[19:57] <emilio> i'm trying to update my ubuntu iso with the new ubiquity and oem-config, but when i install on ubiquity oem-config=enable on kernel cmd line the installation always remove ubiquity and don't install the oem-config
[19:57] <smw> !root | ilker
[19:57] <emilio> what can i do?
[19:57] <Techathy> ilker: you don't have one
[19:57] <Guest67621> well for right now im on 9.04
[19:57] <pixelmischief> ilker, "sudo -i", then, "passwd".  You set it yourself.
[19:57] <shane2peru> smw, well, vlc doesn't play this, it is a wmv file.
[19:57] <Guest67621> video  problems with 9.10 am 10.04
[19:57] <smw> ilker, ubottu is god. listen to him
[19:57] <pixelmischief> ilker, although i recommend learning more about sudo and root before yo do it.
[19:57] <shane2peru> smw, mplayer can, if the codecs are there and compiled in.
[19:58] <smw> shane2peru, so what is the problem?
[19:58] <Guest67621> not sure how long 9.04 will be supported for
[19:58] <maglos> hotmonkeyluv, well if you have the hardware it should cut down load times, compile times and updating.
[19:58] <emilio> i'm trying to update my ubuntu iso with the new ubiquity and oem-config, but when i install on ubiquity oem-config=enable on kernel cmd line the installation always remove ubiquity and don't install the oem-config. There's something wrong whit my installtion? what can i do?
[19:58] <abhijit> !9.04 | Guest67621
[19:58] <shane2peru> smw, it doesn't like the wmv file.
[19:58] <abhijit> :(
[19:58] <maglos> hotmonkeyluv they all seem pretty well seek time bound operations
[19:59] <pixelmischief> how do I enable ide-cd in ub10.04?
[19:59] <shane2peru> smw, VLC does not support the audio or video format "MSS2". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this. is vlc's error
[19:59] <smw> shane2peru, I don't know what to tell you. I have played alot of stuff and never run into problems :-\
[19:59] <Guest67621> it works fine
 do you have a sata cdrom?
[19:59] <Guest67621> just 9.10 an 10.04 wont run
[19:59] <ilker> thanks all for helping, and i want to change computer name. so what should i do?
[19:59] <pixelmischief> emilio, yes
[20:00] <shane2peru> smw, I have to be able to compile mplayer with the right codecs, at mplayer channel, I was told to build it as 32bit, doesn't sound fun to me, working on 64bit
[20:00] <robertzaccour> hey yall
[20:00] <splnet> ilker /etc/hostname should do it
[20:00] <robertzaccour> I'm trying to revert to the Jaunty default theme but when trying to change stuff I get this message "ubuntulooks engine" does not appear to be a valid theme.
[20:00] <thune3> Guest67621: through oct https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ , what problem do you experience trying 9.10,10.04?
 try to look on bios for config. I have a problem with is, changing the mode on BIOS this is work fine, somethimes the BIOS was configured to "see" the SATA was IDE so change this option.
[20:01] <ilker> slacker_nl: thanks a lot
[20:01] <ilker> opss
[20:01] <raj> :p
[20:01] <smw> shane2peru, it will probably be extremely difficult to install x86 mplayer on x86_64
[20:01] <emilio> i'm trying to update my ubuntu iso with the new ubiquity and oem-config, but when i install on ubiquity oem-config=enable on kernel cmd line the installation always remove ubiquity and don't install the oem-config. There's something wrong whit my installtion? what can i do?
[20:01] <hotmonkeyluv> maglos, do you know of a free way to check SMART info on a disk and put it to a test? I've seen some apps, but they are all windows and pricey.
[20:01] <EbanSoul> is there a web site that shows the differences in the irc chat programs for ubuntu ?
[20:01] <shane2peru> smw, that is why I figured to ask for codecs instead. :)  doesn't sound fun to me either.
[20:02] <trism> hotmonkeyluv: System/Administration/Disk Utility ? click the disk, and the SMART Data button, then run self test?
[20:02] <switch10_> how to put a character limit on a line in .conkyrc?
[20:03] <robertzaccour> I'm trying to revert to the Jaunty default theme but when trying to change stuff I get this message "ubuntulooks engine" does not appear to be a valid theme.
[20:03] <shane2peru> smw, I guess my other option is find a windows player, and use wine. :)  Perhaps that would be easier.
[20:03] <duffydack> EbanSoul,  pure opinion, just use xchat or if you know terminal kungfu use irssi
[20:04] <EbanSoul> ty
[20:04] <emilio> i'm trying to update my ubuntu 10.04 iso with the new ubiquity 2.2.25 and oem-config, but when i install on ubiquity oem-config=enable on kernel cmd line the installation always remove ubiquity and don't install the oem-config. There's something wrong whit my installtion? what can i do?
[20:04] <Ludacris> a name that starts with the letter O wasn't decide yet for 11.10 right?
[20:04] <duffydack> Ludacris, only just got a name for 11.04 :)
[20:05] <splnet> shane2peru: I don't think it should be that bad to install 32bit mplayer on x86_64. Just ensure that you have 32bit and 64 bit libraries installed
[20:05] <Ludacris> cause i have some ideas
[20:05] <Ludacris> Obnoxious Octopus
[20:05] <hotmonkeyluv> trism, Thanks, I'll check it out!
[20:05] <Ludacris> Ominous Ox
[20:05] <Ludacris> Odd Owl
[20:06] <trism> Ludacris: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames post them here
[20:06] <Ludacris> thx
[20:06] <John-Smith> 1297 nicks
[20:06] <scared_> hey, i'm trying to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu and i've having some issues with grub. I have tried following tutorials that tell me to type "root (hd0,0)" then "setup (hd0)" but i get an error saying "file not found" any ideas?
[20:06] <shane2peru> splnet, if you have a link I don't mind looking at the process, perhaps if it doesn't look that complex
[20:06] <duffydack> Omnipotent Owl
[20:07] <emilio> i'm trying to update my ubuntu 10.04 iso with the new ubiquity 2.2.25 and oem-config, but when i install on ubiquity oem-config=enable on kernel cmd line the installation always remove ubiquity and don't install the oem-config. There's something wrong whit my installtion? what can i do?
[20:07] <WillWork4Foo> Posh Periwinkle... ?
[20:07] <WillWork4Foo> for the P release of Ubuntu?
[20:08] <splnet> shane2peru: unfortunately I don't. Just get the list of dependent libraries mplayer needs ( probably off of their site) then try to build it
[20:08] <duffydack> Offtopic Ox
[20:08] <jamboree> can i ask questions in here?
[20:08] <jamboree> including the one i just asked
[20:09] <jamboree> ;)
[20:09] <duffydack> !ask | jamboree
[20:10] <LinuxGuy2009> Was Lucid based on the Debian snapshot that is currently in the testing branch?
[20:10] <jamboree> i just installed ubuntu (latest) for the first time, i'm a newb when it comes to linux, and im trying to access a dns321 nas - anyone want to walk me through it or tell me where to read about it?
[20:11] <DASPRiD> jamboree, if the nas was accessed via samba (windows directory sharing), it should be pretty easy
[20:11] <switch10_> jamboree: I have a 323 and i ssh into it.
[20:11] <jamboree> i don't have a clue what you two just said
[20:11] <duffydack> Dont most nas`s have a web interface?
[20:11] <jamboree> i added something about samba in the terminal earlier
[20:11] <kieran_uk> evening all
[20:12]  * scriptwarlock waves
[20:12] <jamboree> mine does duffy but i can't access it like i usually do (http://192.168.x.x
[20:12] <switch10_> jamboree: check out this website http://forum.dsmg600.info/
[20:13] <jamboree> k
[20:13] <chrisd> Hi, does anyone know where apt-add-repository stores the repos it adds? For some reason all of my PPAs are giving 404s
[20:13] <kieran_uk> any other ubuntu chans i should know about?
[20:13] <switch10_> jamboree: you could always do connect to server>private FTP as well
[20:13] <dublisk> should my xorg.conf have an "InputDevice" section? I am trying to disable the middle button paste ( singularly THE MOST annoying thing ever )
[20:13] <chrisd> for example i get W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kholis/ppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[20:13] <chrisd>  -- but that's not where it should be anyway
[20:14] <robertzaccour> is installing ubuntulooks theme engine possible?
[20:14] <zagabar> Hey. I wonder how to do port forwarding when using ICS with iptables. I have my main server with the external IP. I have a second server in the internal network as 192.168.0.4. What iptable rules do I need to create to point all traffic on EXTERNAL-IP:SOME-PORT to 192.168.0.4?
[20:14] <RenatoSilva> Update manager doesn't show 10.04.1. My 10.04 is up-to-date. How to upgrade?
[20:15] <Andre305> I'm installing a program that give the instructions of "Manually, edit the Makefile in /src" and I don't know what that means. Any help?
[20:15] <rww> RenatoSilva: It won't. If you have all the normal lucid-updates and lucid-security updates, you have 10.04.1
[20:15] <splnet> chrisd: have you check /etc/apt/apt.conf.d ?
[20:15] <sysadmin> is there a channel for squirrelmail
[20:15] <RenatoSilva> rww: so 10.04.1 is just páckaging? an up-to-date iso?
[20:15] <robertzaccour> does anynone know anything about theming?
[20:16] <coz_> robertzaccour,  yes  but themeing what/
[20:16] <RenatoSilva> rww: I thought my system monitor would show .1 up then
[20:16] <Andre305> Manually, edit the Makefile in /src    Anybody know what that means?
[20:16] <switch10_> how to put a character limit on a line in .conkyrc?
[20:16] <robertzaccour> coz_, installing ubuntulooks theme engine. i need it for making the old jaunty theme but it won't accept it
[20:16] <coz_> robertzaccour,   do you want to theme the system window themes?
[20:16] <coz_> robertzaccour,  ok do you have alink for  this?
[20:17] <jklehm> what can i do if the installer gets stuck for me, is there another way to install?
[20:17] <Oer> ubuntu + DLNA service, is there a solution, besides mediatomb / elisa-moovida ?
[20:17] <rww> RenatoSilva: correct
[20:17] <coz_> robertzaccour,  let me check synaptic
[20:17] <rww> RenatoSilva: try "lsb_release -a" in the terminal, it'll say 10.04.1 if you're fully updated
[20:17] <nn7> hello!  I'm a long time redhat user (decade or so) who is considering moving to ubuntu.  I still use Fedora on my headless server, but all attempts to make a redhat desktop machine have eventually ended in frustration.
[20:18] <emilio> i'm trying to update my ubuntu 10.04 iso with the new ubiquity 2.2.25 and oem-config, but when i install on ubiquity oem-config=enable on kernel cmd line the installation always remove ubiquity and don't install the oem-config. There's something wrong whit my installtion? what can i do?
[20:18] <nn7> Anyone here care to give me a general rundown on how things differ between redhat and ubuntu?
[20:18] <Andre305> Manually, edit the Makefile in /src         anybody?
[20:18] <RenatoSilva> rww: yeah, 10.04.1, thanks
[20:18] <splnet> zagabar: I'm not sure what you mean by ICS but if you want to do redirect from a specific IP to a private IP do a google search for "iptables nat redirect" the first link should get you setup
[20:18] <gordonjcp> where can I get an Ubuntu image that I can put on a USB stick, *without* using unetbootin?
[20:18] <prodigel> hi all. I'm running a script that's supposed to install project-open on ubuntu 10.4 that stumbled on wgetting from an apparently momentarily unaccessible source. I've managed to download the required file by other means and I would like to cancel wget and also letting the installation script to continue. Hitting Ctrl+c will do the job? :D
[20:18] <coz_> robertzaccour,  I dont see an ubuntulooks theme engine for lucid  I see a karmic ppa  for it  however
[20:19] <nerdy_kid> i have two wireless cards and can only get one to work, both will connect and obtain an IP only one works. ??
[20:19] <Daskreech> ubottu: !find ms-sys dapper
[20:19] <coz_> robertzaccour,  although that would be bad actually to use that ppa  on lucid
[20:19] <scriptwarlock> nn7: is redhat free?
[20:19] <gordonjcp> ideally I'd like to be able to install Ubuntu without downloading a few hundred gig of X and Qt libs, and without having to find somewhere that still has CD or DVD drives
[20:19] <Daskreech> scriptwarlock: depends on your meaning of free
[20:19] <nn7> scriptwarlock:  yes, is ubuntu not?
[20:19] <Daskreech> but for most intents yes it is
[20:19] <Andre305> I'm trying to install a program and it instructs me to "Manually, edit the Makefile in /src" and I don't know what that means. Any help would be appreciated.
[20:19] <robertzaccour> coz_, try opening appearance>customize>controls>human and see what i mean
[20:20] <|Twilo|> hello, I use ubuntu JeOS with lxde-core. how can I change the keyboard layout with the keyboard layout switcher applet in the task bar or is there another way to set the keyboard layout in the gui?
[20:20] <scriptwarlock> nn7: havent use redhat yet afaik ubuntu is free
[20:20] <zzzed> nn7, ubuntu is free, one big difference is that ubuntu is .deb based while redhat uses .rpm
[20:20] <coz_> robertzaccour,  ok   I did that and "human" works here ??
[20:20] <DASPRiD> chrisd, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
[20:20] <robertzaccour> I installed human and it says "This theme will not look as intended because the required GTK+ theme engine 'ubuntulooks' is not installed, but it won't accept ubuntulooks coz_
[20:20] <DASPRiD> chrisd, sory if being late :)
[20:20] <robertzaccour> coz_, was it done away with?
[20:20] <coz_> robertzaccour,   is this ubuntu lucid?
[20:20] <chrisd> DASPRiD, thank you! :)
[20:20] <robertzaccour> coz_, yes
[20:21] <zzzed> nn7, ubuntu is easy to install, try it and see diferences
[20:21] <coz_> robertzaccour,   human theme was already installed
[20:21] <nn7> zzzed:  how does that affect me?  I'm somewhat familiar with working with RPMs (as I endlessly try to fix things that don't work in fedora)
[20:21] <coz_> robertzaccour,   did you download another source package for human theme?
[20:21] <robertzaccour> coz_, i don't think so. maybe i need to do a reinstall lol searching is taking way longer
[20:22] <Andre305> I'm trying to install a program and it instructs me to "Manually, edit the Makefile in /src" and I don't know what that means. Any help would be appreciated.
[20:22] <Andre305> I'm trying to install a program and it instructs me to "Manually, edit the Makefile in /src" and I don't know what that means. Any help would be appreciated.
[20:22] <Andre305> I'm trying to install a program and it instructs me to "Manually, edit the Makefile in /src" and I don't know what that means. Any help would be appreciated.
[20:22] <FloodBot3> Andre305: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:22] <coz_> robertzaccour,  well you could open synaptic package manager and look for the theme engines already installed and then right click for reinstallation   then reboot and see if that fixes the issue
[20:22] <robertzaccour> coz_, or is there a way to default all the options?
[20:22] <scared_> hey, i'm trying to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu and i've having some issues with grub. I have tried following tutorials that tell me to type "root (hd0,0)" then "setup (hd0)" but i get an error saying "file not found" any ideas?
[20:22] <coz_> robertzaccour,  well you can reset gnome  to its defaults
[20:22] <DASPRiD> coz_, reboot? if at all, a restart of X is neccessary
[20:22] <zzzed> nnt, ubuntu (and other .deb based systems) gives you more control over what you are installing, compared to fedora add/remove software. haven't used yum.
[20:23] <zagabar> splnet: I mean Internet Connection Sharing. I am using my server as a router for computers in a subnetwork below it connected to a second ethernet device. I'll try google that, thank you. :)
[20:23] <robertzaccour> coz_, which one synaptic or reset?
[20:23] <toolbear> help! can't kill dpkg! (at least, not with "kill <pid>", "kill -9 <pid>", or "kill -s KILL <pid>", issued as root) is there another way to end that process?
[20:23] <robertzaccour> coz_, how do i reset to defaults?
[20:23] <coz_> robertzaccour,  well you can go to synaptic to check which gtk engines are already installed then right click each  and mark for reinstallation and\or  you can reset gnome to its defaults  with      sudo rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity   then restart X
[20:24] <Daskreech> zzzed: yum is very nice
[20:24] <Daskreech> still not a step up from dpkg but very nice
[20:24] <robertzaccour> coz_, would logging out restart x?
[20:25] <coz_> robertzaccour,  well the proper way is to hit  ctrl+alt+F1   log in then   sudo restart gdm
[20:25] <robertzaccour> coz_, oh ok thanks
[20:25] <gordonjcp> is there any way to get an Ubuntu install image onto a USB stick, *without* using unetbootin?
[20:26] <coz_> robertzaccour,  this ensures that all applications  are shut down properly   otherwise you could get errors  and that is one reason "Backspace"  restart x  is disabled
[20:26] <gordonjcp> perhaps some way of downloading an image that can just be dd'ed onto a USB stick?
[20:26] <duffydack> gordonjcp, use the one in ubuntu.  or use gujin bootloader and cat the isos.
[20:26] <gordonjcp> duffydack: use the what in Ubuntu?
[20:26] <zzzed> nn7, i mean they're both linux, as i understand, with fedora you pretty much need to add a repo like rpm.fusion.com -- in ubuntu just about all you need is in ubuntu repos
[20:26] <jamboree> switch10_: what does ssh mean?
[20:26] <duffydack> gordonjcp, the tool "startup disk creator"
[20:26] <robertzaccour> thanks coz_
[20:26] <gordonjcp> duffydack: okay, but doesn't that rather require having Ubuntu in the first place?
[20:27] <toolbear> gordonjcp: you can actually just directly install ubuntu onto the usb
[20:27] <coz_> robertzaccour,   no problem  let me know if any of that solves the issue
[20:27] <gordonjcp> toolbear: I tried that, it doesn't result in anything bootable
[20:27] <robertzaccour> coz_, whats that command again? I'm gonna email that one to myself
[20:27] <gordonjcp> toolbear: well, I tried dd'ing it onto the USB stick, maybe that doesn't work for Ubuntu
[20:27] <duffydack> gordonjcp, oh..  well afaik, from 9.10 onwards (maybe 9.04) you can just dd it
[20:27] <emilio> i'm trying to update my ubuntu 10.04 iso with the new ubiquity 2.2.25 and oem-config, but when i install on ubiquity oem-config=enable on kernel cmd line the installation always remove ubiquity and don't install the oem-config. There's something wrong whit my installtion? what can i do?
[20:27] <toolbear> gordonjcp: that's odd, i'm sure i've done it before (uh, with debian though, not ubuntu)
[20:27] <coz_> robertzaccour,     sudo rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity   then restart X
[20:27] <gordonjcp> toolbear: yeah, that's how I did it with Arch
[20:28] <coz_> robertzaccour,  or     ctrl+alt+F1     log in   then     sudo restaret gdm
[20:28] <duffydack> gordonjcp, personally I just have gujin loader on a small partition and then cat my iso`s as needed..just simpler for me that way
[20:28] <coz_> robertzaccour,  rather    sudo restart gdm
[20:28] <toolbear> gordonjcp: anyways, what i typically do is "debootstrap" the usb, then just chroot into it and install the linux kernel and grub, and _that_ typically works for me as far as enabling me to boot off of the usb
[20:29] <argbla> I'm trying to use a USB sound card with alsa, but when I try to use alsamixer with it, it crashes displaying "Floating point exception" It works perfectly fine in OSS, does anyone know how to fix it?
[20:29] <toolbear> gordonjcp: once i've booted into the usb, then i just apt-get the desired packages
[20:29] <rockhopper> MichealH, are you there?
[20:29] <Daskreech> I can't install a 64-bit deb on a 32 bit kernel can I?
[20:29] <MichealH> rockhopper: Yes?
[20:29] <robertzaccour> coz_, whats the difference?
[20:29] <gordonjcp> toolbear: that sounds like more effort than I want to expend on Ubuntu
[20:29] <toolbear> gordonjcp: oh, and make sure you at least configure a password before trying to boot the thing
[20:30] <abhi> hi
[20:30] <gordonjcp> toolbear: the only reason I was going to install it at all was because someone is complaining that they can't build an app I'm working on in Ubuntu
[20:30] <coz_> robertzaccour,   the  ctrl+alt+F1  stuff is just to restart X   the other command was to reset gnome to its defaults
[20:30] <toolbear> gordonjcp: but, once you've done it once, then you can just make a backup as a basic image
[20:30] <duffydack> gordonjcp,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604 or http://psychoticspoon.blogspot.com/2009/01/booting-multiple-livecds-from-single.html
[20:30] <rockhopper> MichealH, in /etc/acpi directory, there're .sh files which set keys for the keyconstants
[20:30] <dublisk> should my xorg.conf have an "InputDevice" section? I am trying to disable the middle button paste
[20:30] <abhi> how to get wireless working on ubuntu ?
[20:30] <MichealH> rockhopper: I have seen
[20:31] <rockhopper> MichealH, I found .sh files for only the present working keys, there's no file regarding brightness control
[20:31] <robertzaccour> coz_, oh ok thanks
[20:31] <gordonjcp> toolbear: my current opinion is that if they can't give me sensible error reports, then it's not going to work in Ubuntu
[20:31] <doctorZeus> are there any special switches I need to add when mounting a volume to allow samba shares to access it?  I can get shares working no problem from my system drive but not on a separate raid volume or ntfs drive
[20:31] <coz_> robertzaccour,  no problem :)
[20:31] <Daskreech> !wifi > abhi
[20:31] <rockhopper> but when i saw the key constants, brightness up and down buttons're given constants 224 and 225
[20:31] <MichealH> rockhopper: Thatll make for some more coding :(
[20:32] <emilio> i'm trying to update my ubuntu 10.04 iso with the new ubiquity 2.2.25 and oem-config, but when i install on ubiquity oem-config=enable on kernel cmd line the installation always remove ubiquity and don't install the oem-config. There's something wrong whit my installtion? what can i do?
[20:32] <robertzaccour> coz_, it still says gtk+ theme engine 'ubuntulooks' is not installed when i try to select human in controls
[20:32] <robertzaccour> coz_, i guess that was done away with since jaunty
[20:32] <coz_> robertzaccour,   in terminal    sudo apt-get install -f
[20:32] <duffydack> emilio, I dont quite follow, update the installer?
[20:32] <coz_> robertzaccour,  well  Human theme is still in ubuntu and was already installed on lucid
[20:32] <rockhopper> MichealH, I found a code to control the brightness, but i need to know how to bind the key to run that script
[20:32] <robertzaccour> coz_, whats that do?
[20:32] <duffydack> emilio, update because?
[20:33] <toolbear> gordonjcp: ok. yeah, i'd just stick with that line of thinking, and forget about it. otherwise i'd think that you'll pretty much _have_ to go through a decent amount of effort
[20:33] <rockhopper> MichealH, I can run the script in terminal to increase and decrease the brightness.
[20:33] <coz_> robertzaccour,  that will pull down any necessary  and available libraries etc that are needed  but only if they are available
[20:33] <MichealH> rockhopper: Look in /usr/share/acpi-support/ for key binfings
[20:33] <rockhopper> ok
[20:33]  * duffydack has already shown gordonjcp 2 methods.  easy enough
[20:33] <Ludacris> how come the code names of the first two Ubuntu releases began with W and H?
 Yes, i get the original iso and trying to update ubiquity, because the version of ubiquity in the iso is 2.2.24 and now they release the 2.2.25 version and i want to update this!
[20:34] <abdul> hello
[20:34] <Daskreech> Ludacris: Cause they did
[20:34] <robertzaccour> coz_, nothing available everything already installed
[20:34] <duffydack> emilio, did you get 10.04 or 10.04.1 and, why you need it updating?
[20:34] <Daskreech> !hi | abdul
[20:34] <Quantum_Ion> Google Earth keeps crashing on me
[20:35] <coz_> robertzaccour,  ok then  not sure what else to tell you ...did you go to synaptic  search for  gtk-engines  and reinstall the ones that you might think are the problem
 humm i using the 10.04, i want to update because the 2.2.25 fix some bug with USB installation
[20:35] <Daskreech> Quantum_Ion: better than the real earth. Stay away from the LHC!
[20:35] <abdul> руско-говорящие есть?
[20:35] <robertzaccour> coz_, gtk-engines doesn't show up in the search
[20:35] <Daskreech> !ru | abdul
[20:35] <bonez2046> russian?
[20:35] <gmachine_24> Greeting Earthings. A minor problem: when I play gnometris, my sound no longer works.
[20:35] <bonez2046> what the hell?
[20:35] <abdul> yes
[20:36] <coz_> robertzaccour,  well they are there hold on
[20:36] <duffydack> emilio, what bug?   Check what version is in the new 10.04 released a few days ago
[20:36] <robertzaccour> coz_, ok
[20:36] <Quantum_Ion> Daskreech, What is the LHC ?
[20:36] <adbosa> cypherbios, Ping
[20:36] <fermin> wnas
[20:36] <Ludacris> Daskreech: that was a bad answer. They didnt start with the letter a and they nvere used letter A or C
[20:36] <coz_> robertzaccour,    hit search in synaptic and type  gtk2 engines
[20:36] <robertzaccour> can you try clicking on human in "appearance>theme>customize>controls" and see if it works on your end please?
[20:37] <jamboree> can someone tell me where to get information on ssh? im using the latest ubuntu
[20:37] <Daskreech> Quantum_Ion: Large Hadron Collider and for some people the most worrying point in the survival of earth
[20:37] <fermin> wnas!
[20:37] <Quantum_Ion> LHC ?
[20:37] <robertzaccour> coz_, gtk2-engines is installed
[20:37] <fermin> jilipollas
[20:37] <Quantum_Ion> Daskreech, lol, okay
[20:37] <adbosa> I need halp
[20:37] <coz_> robertzaccour,  right  for each on installed  right click and mark for reinstallation
[20:37] <robertzaccour> coz_, should i install all available gtk2-engines?
[20:37] <adbosa> help
[20:38] <gordonjcp> duffydack, toolbear - thanks for the help.  Still haven't got it working, but I haven't really got a pressing need for it now anyway
[20:38] <Daskreech> Ludacris: It just did. there wasn't a way to name things they just made up names every time. After a while someone said they should make sense in relation to each other instead of what was happening at that point in time so they started them alphabetically after that. The first one was D
[20:38] <coz_> robertzaccour,  no you dont need to install others  you want the defaults to be fixed apparenlty
[20:38] <robertzaccour> coz_, what about the ones not installed?
[20:38] <robertzaccour> oh ok
 this bug: Refactor default boot device calculation, bringing it into sync with
[20:38] <emilio>     grub-installer.  This should ensure that when installing to a removable
[20:38] <emilio>     device we always default to installing GRUB to that same device as well,
[20:38] <emilio>     while leaving the situation for installations to hard disks unchanged
[20:38] <emilio>     (LP: #549756).
[20:38] <FloodBot3> emilio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <abdul> #ubuntu-ru
[20:38] <adbosa> quit
[20:38] <coz_> robertzaccour,   well first reinstall the ones already installed...restart the system  and see if they fix some issues
[20:38] <Daskreech> abdul: try /join #ubuntu-ru
[20:39] <duffydack> emilio, I dont see that as a bug much, just make sure you tell it where to install grub and dont just accept the default..
[20:39] <Ludacris> Daskreech: ok u r right but i think they should go back to the letters that werent used before the start all over again
[20:39] <abdul> thank you
[20:39] <gmachine_24>  A minor problem: when I play gnometris, my sound no longer works.
[20:39] <gmachine_24> anyone?
[20:39] <Daskreech> Ludacris: Nope not the community way
[20:39] <Daskreech> Learn from mistakes of the past apply that moving forward
[20:40] <Daskreech> Things that have gone bad are in the past don't try revisit them unless they are blocking the future
[20:40] <biodegabriel> Hey all, Can anyone recommend a good Mail app for individual email accounts? Like with a nice GUI and web interface?
[20:40] <zooko> Dear people of #ubuntu: my wife is trying to run oprofile on her laptop, and we can't find a linux-image-debug kernel. We have even gone through the steps to add ddebs to our apt-sources list and add the appropriate gpg key and so on, but it turns out that linux-image-debug isn't in ddebs either.
[20:40] <Quantum_Ion> I tired to install Windows Vista, Ubuntu Linux and FreeBSD on a 500GB drive and it locked up my mouse and my keyboard when I tried to boot my system
[20:40] <zooko> From where should we get a vmlinux for use with oprofile?
[20:40] <Daskreech> biodegabriel: You mean a webmail?
[20:40] <Ludacris> Daskreech: but the jumped around with the first two before going alphabetically
[20:40] <robertzaccour> coz_, ok got that goin now and also uninstalling custom ones I included
[20:40] <coz_> biodegabriel,  ah have you already tried evolution?
[20:41] <Daskreech> Ludacris: right. and?
[20:41] <biodegabriel> Daskreech: yes
[20:41] <Daskreech> biodegabriel: squirrelmail and circlemail
[20:41] <biodegabriel> coz_:  no, but i'll look into it. thx!
[20:41] <coz_> robertzaccour,  ok then restart ....reboot...the system
[20:41] <Ludacris> so y not finish the whole alphabet
[20:41] <robertzaccour> coz_, not just x?
[20:41] <Daskreech> Ludacris: they will in time
[20:41] <coz_> biodegabriel,  that is already installed and will work with POP mail as well
[20:41] <biodegabriel> Daskreech: thx
[20:41] <Daskreech> 13 years
[20:41] <coz_> biodegabriel,  as far as web interface not sure exactly what you want there
[20:41] <biodegabriel> coz_:  i'm running ubuntu as a web server.
[20:41] <Daskreech> Ludacris: assuming they dont' skip q and z :)
[20:41] <Ludacris> Daskreech: ya they probably will
[20:41] <Daskreech> then it will be 10 year
[20:41] <coz_> biodegabriel,  ah  understood
[20:42] <Ludacris> Daskreech: u a cool guy
[20:42] <robertzaccour> brb
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[20:42] <Ludacris> bye
[20:43] <RandBrittain> Can anyone point me to a good guide on duplex printing? I'm trying to get my HP laserjet to print my class syllabi double-sided, but it keeps throwing out all the odd pages, then all the even pages, without giving me an opportunity to flip the paper. (I'm using Lucid.)
[20:44] <zagabar> splnet: I found a rule that seems to redirect incoming traffic on a certain port to another port. Can I modify it to send the traffic to an internal IP as well? How do I do that? The rule I found is: iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 26666 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080
[20:45] <th3hate_> can anyone help to me shrink /dev/sda2 (extended partition) and add to ntfs partition in /dev/sda1, check the picture: http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2585/screenshotxw.png
[20:45] <thune3> zooko: you are trying to profile the kernel itself?
[20:45] <zooko> thune3: yes
[20:46] <zooko> thune3: we're now wget'ing a .ddeb named -dbgsym...
[20:46] <doctorZeus> no questions just a comment--samba is a flaming stinking pos..
[20:46] <coz_> brb
[20:47] <nimbiotics> hello.rry to ask this but I cannot understand the manual. Ineed to issue a lot of commands that will need sudo privileges. what would be the sudo option that will allow to maintain the sudo privileges for as long as the terminal window is open? TIA!
[20:47] <Oer> ubuntu + DLNA service, is there a solution, besides mediatomb / elisa-moovida ?
[20:47] <IdleOne> nimbiotics: sudo -i will give you sudo privs for as long as you keep the terminal open but be careful with that.
[20:48] <th3hate_> is there a way to shrink extended partitions???
[20:48] <nimbiotics> IdleOne: I understand the risks, thansk a LOT!
[20:48] <IdleOne> !gparted | th3hate_
[20:49] <th3hate_> IdleOne: check the picture:http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2585/screenshotxw.png
[20:49] <th3hate_> IdleOne: i wanna shrink /dev/sda2
[20:51] <TiK> is there a program or a live cd that scans a harddrive (usb) in offlinemode? its not smart and parted magic will not scan it.
[20:51] <thune3> zooko: i don't see one in repos, find one or compile one i guess.
[20:51] <th3hate_> someone help me with resizing partitions?
[20:51] <gordonjcp> at last, it actually works!
[20:51] <gordonjcp> now, how do I make Ubuntu look normal?
[20:51] <zooko> thune3: thanks!
[20:52] <Connor1> Who wants to read a joke?
[20:52] <zooko> thune3: hey wait a minute. What about these: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/ ?
[20:52] <AlZIR> th3hate_: are you using GParted to do the resizing?
[20:52] <nogo> not me
[20:52] <blue_anna> I'm getting an error "too many open files" trying to save a file in gedit
[20:52] <blue_anna> on my local disk
[20:53] <blue_anna> its been working all day, this just started happening -- any idea how to look into that?
[20:53] <th3hate_> AlZIR: yep i wanna shrink /dev/sda2 and add to /dev/sda1 check the picture: http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2585/screenshotxw.png
[20:53] <whileimhere231> Hi I was wondering does a desktop take up resources even if it is not the active desktop? For instance lets say I have XFCE Desktop installed and fluxbox desktop installed. I select the fluxbox desktop in the GDM and go into it. Do I loose any of the system resources other than the HD space to the XFCE desktop?
[20:53] <thune3> zooko: yeah, i didn't know about those. looks like you found one!
[20:54] <blue_anna> how do you check % full of your partitions?
[20:54] <gordonjcp> ugh, this is horrible
[20:54] <thune3> zooko: boy are they huge
[20:54] <rockhopper> whileimhere231, Nope.. It only takes for whats in use..
[20:54] <zzzed> blue_anna, enter df in a terminal\
[20:54] <gordonjcp> whileimhere231: kind of yes, kind of no
[20:54] <nogo> everybody have many 1tb hdds nowadays...
[20:55] <blue_anna> zzzed, thanks
[20:55] <nogo> s/have/has
[20:55] <blue_anna> I was doing du -hs
[20:55] <blue_anna> :P
[20:55] <rockhopper> whileimhere231, with increase in system files, the accessing time may vary
[20:55] <gordonjcp> whileimhere231: some desktop environments will want to run stuff in the background, like the various gnome daemons
[20:55] <AlZIR> th3hate_: as sda1 is ntfs it might be better to do that part in windows
[20:55] <rockhopper> but not much, system resources wont be used much
[20:55] <whileimhere231> rockhopper: I am building a MAME cabinet. Can I strip anything out of the system to make it faster? I am not worried about boot time or harddrive space just system performance.
[20:56] <th3hate_> AlZIR: i tried to shrink sda2 but the slider isn't moving backward as if there's no space to shrink
[20:56] <thune3> zooko: this page show the form of how to add that as repository https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[20:56] <rockhopper> whileimhere231, normally, its good to strip out what you dont use..
[20:57] <gordonjcp> wow
[20:57] <nogo> as soon as you boot ubuntu, the 700mb of ram is gone
[20:57] <JavaNunes> my system is the security system, it no shutdown and  not have buffers overflow, see in 189.116.33.249  by ssh login user admin password 123
[20:57] <Zoffix> nogo, it's cache
[20:57] <gordonjcp> what is this? /media/d199a414-ff25-4e6f-937f-1305c4661c52/ ? love the nice friendly device names
[20:57] <rockhopper> But that wont make much of a difference in performance.. as it all depepnds on what processing power you have
[20:57] <whileimhere231> rockhopper is there any point in stripping out abiword? I mean it only takes up hd space right not really an effect on system performance right?
[20:57] <blue_anna> the problem was in gedit
[20:57] <AlZIR> th3hate_: so you might start by shirking the unallocated part   to create room for the ntfs resize
[20:57] <JavaNunes> my system is the best
[20:57] <blue_anna> I restarted gedit and now its working
[20:57] <rockhopper> whileimhere231, yeah..
[20:58] <JavaNunes> ssh login user is admin  password is 123 IP 189.116.33.249
[20:58] <zzzed> th3hate: you wont be able to resize extended partition while it contains logical partitions
[20:58] <whileimhere231> I know that I should use BUM to turn off all the excess services.
[20:58] <rockhopper> whileimhere231, i mean no, it wont make a significant difference for removing such a small things
[20:58] <th3hate_> AlZIR: how to? when i right click the unallocated part it only shows "new" option
[20:58] <IdleOne> !ot | JavaNunes
[20:59] <JavaNunes> my system is very security
[20:59] <Zoffix> Hey, I've just upgraded to 10.04 and I am finding that some apps (Opera, Scribus) utilize "oxy-black" mouse cursor instead of what is set in the Appearance settings and what is used in much of other place - DMZ (white). Any ideas on how to get normal cursor in aforementioned apps?
[20:59] <rockhopper> whileimhere231, run the services,  what only you want.. running unnecessary services only slows down your pc
[20:59] <alinon> is there an ubuntu one support chan?
[20:59] <AlZIR> th3hate_: I would resize the extended partition   making it smaller
[20:59] <duffydack> alinon, #ubuntuone
[20:59] <whileimhere231> rockhopper: is there a list of "Required" services?
[20:59] <alinon> thanks
[21:00] <nogo> can you resize a ext4 partition?
[21:00] <AlZIR> th3hate_: thats is the whole of /dev/sda2   make that smaller
[21:00] <th3hate_> AlZIR: that's exactly what im trying to do , but it wont shrink because it's being fully used or something
[21:00] <lxsys> I'm trying to setup ircd-hybrid. I can connect to 127.0.0.1 but not to 88.108.192.234(my IP). Ports are forwarded etc, and canyouseeme.org can see me, but I can't seem to get irssi to connect to it. Can anybody help me?
[21:00] <rockhopper> whileimhere231, Lol it depends on your usage
[21:01] <IdleOne> lxsys: try the ircd-hybrid forum
[21:01] <rockhopper> whileimhere231, like if use internet or LAN, you need to run the network services
[21:02] <jaybee> lxsys is you're serious at all about running an ircd just get a cheap dedicated machine/vm...
[21:02] <rockhopper> whileimhere231, google about the services running currently, before blindly stopping them.. to avoid any unnecesary result
[21:02] <WJW> blue_anna, the "mount" command (no args) gives the percentages of the partitions that are in use.  So does the system monitor that you can start from the system menu (click the "file systems" tab).
[21:02] <AlZIR> th3hate_: click on the light blue line  at the left side
[21:02] <Zoffix> Ah, fixed my cursor; needed to run `sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme` and choose my DMZ white.
[21:03] <th3hate_> AlZIR: this is /dev/sda2 (fully used) no way to shrink : http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/4208/screenshot1er.png
[21:03] <alinon> hrm no repsonse in #ubuntuone - i just need help with the initial setup
[21:03] <AlZIR> th3hate_: just after the small unallocated space
[21:05] <th3hate_> AlZIR: then?
[21:05] <alinon> i was never given the chance to add my computer to ubuntu one, and going into my account to add one just takes me to the tutorial
[21:05] <alynn> #ubuntu_ro
[21:05] <dollarbang> hello all, I'm new to Ubuntu (and linux servers for that matter). I just fresh installed 10.0.4, but the mouse isn't working. Any thoughts?
[21:06] <rockhopper> dollarbang, is your mouse plugged in?
[21:06] <rockhopper> dollarbang, is it a usb mouse?
[21:06] <dollarbang> yes, I have a dual kvm, and using my W7 PC to chat.
[21:06] <JPeterson> why do I get "err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP80.dll" in wine in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:07] <dollarbang> the mouse on the Ubuntu is talking via USB
[21:07] <JPeterson> isn't MSVCP80.dll supposed to be in that installation?
[21:07] <rockhopper> dollarbang, if its usb mouse, run lsusb and check if its recognised
[21:07] <JPeterson> wine 1.1.42
[21:07] <rockhopper> dollarbang, "lsusb" in the terminal without the quotes
[21:08] <whileimhere231> What is the fastest accessing disc format for a hard drive? Is NTFS faster than EXT3 or EXT2?
[21:08] <dollarbang> rockhopper: thanks, will try...getting the keyboard to open a terminal session will be rather difficult, but doable I think
[21:08] <rww> whileimhere231: Linux's NTFS implementation is slower than ext2/3. I'm not sure which of the ext2/3 is faster.
[21:09] <whileimhere231> how about FAT32?
[21:09] <Daekdroom> rww, you wouldn't want to use ext2
[21:09] <zzzed> dollarbang: ctlr-alt-T
[21:09] <rockhopper> dollarbang, press alt+crtl+t
[21:09] <alinon> meh i use ext4
[21:09] <WJW> Daekdroom, why not use ext2?
[21:09] <dollarbang> thank you, I'll be incommunicable for a few minutes
[21:09] <whileimhere231> how is Ext4 with old drives on speed?
[21:10] <alinon> working fine with 7800rpm
[21:10] <Daekdroom> WJW, it's outdated and unsafe.
[21:10] <WJW> I heard that ext4 had some growing pains.
[21:10] <alinon> dunno about anything slower
[21:10] <dogmatic69> what is the cmd to make files -rw-rw-rw-
[21:10] <WJW> Daekdroom, why unsafe?
[21:10] <rockhopper> zzzed, I doubt e'll ever come back... if he dont know using alt+tab :P
[21:10] <rww> dogmatic69: chmod 666 filenamehere
[21:10] <Daekdroom> WJW, It doesn't even have journaling, if you unmount it uncorrectly or lose power, you'll have a huge problem in your hands.
[21:10] <alinon> my boot time makes vista look like a slow piece of snot hehe
[21:10] <Daekdroom> WJW, too easy to corrupt
[21:10] <WJW> dogmatic69 chmod 666 files
[21:11] <whileimhere231> I just dont think I need the journaling or indexing services. Can they be turned off on an EXT3 hard drive
[21:11] <dogmatic69> rww: thanks.. is there a chart somewere explaning 666 -> -rw-rw-rw-
[21:11] <Guest98570> question, if I may, new to Ubuntu..sometimes my machine will not shutdown but instead restarts, sometimes have no sound
[21:11] <alinon> course that's using ext4 and 10.04...boot time is considerably faster with 10.04
[21:11] <Daekdroom> whileimhere231, I don't think they impact performance.
[21:12] <rww> dogmatic69: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions#Octal_notation
[21:12] <Sadstoner> guest your pc manufactorer?
[21:12] <WJW> Daekdroom, can an ext2 become corrupt if it is fsck'ed after every system crash?
[21:12] <thune3> JPeterson: you might try installing winetricks and using it to get vcrun2005: http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[21:12] <Daekdroom> WJW, I don't even think a fsck can recover it
[21:12] <dogmatic69> rww: thanks
[21:13] <alinon> anyone here using ubuntu one? i can't get my setup ..never prompted me to add this pc
[21:13] <alinon> *mine
[21:13] <nogo> what's that?
[21:13] <WJW> I put my boot partition in ext2 thinking it sustains few changes and doesn't need a journal.
[21:13] <nogo> i never click on it
[21:13] <zzzed> WJW, it depends on what kind of I/O was going on with the file system when the system crashes/loses power
[21:13] <JPeterson> thune3: ok
[21:13] <alinon> nogo: it's a way to backup files on the cloud
[21:14] <duet> what would be a way to convert and .m4a podcast to an .mp3
[21:14]  * nogo ran away...
[21:14] <alinon> O.o
[21:14] <azlon> in php how can i prevent & being converted to &amp; in an echo? (i would ask in #php but it is invite only)
[21:14] <WJW> Is there a known way an ext2 can become corrupt and fsck won't detect it?
[21:14] <ezy> hi all. whats a great site to download cool ubuntu logos ?
[21:14] <dollarbang> rockhopper: result from lsusb: bus 010 id: 1d6b:0003 Linux foundation 3.0 Root hub (this is repeated 9 more times decreasing the bus id)
[21:14] <JavaNunes> test my server ssh, it is very security, IP 189.116.33.249 , user admin , password is 123
[21:14] <erUSUL> duet: ffmpeg -i file.m4a file.mp3 ( maybe you have to enable medibuntu first and intall lame lib  )
[21:15] <erUSUL> !medibuntu
[21:15] <rockhopper> dollarbang, in that list, is your mouse being detected?
[21:15] <Jordan_U> whileimhere231: ext4 is generally going to be fastest.
[21:15] <alinon> ezy: http://tiny.cc/pgdn4
[21:16] <dollarbang> rockhopper: how would I know?
[21:16] <rockhopper> dollarbang, it shud look something like this Bus 003 Device 002: ID 093a:2510 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Hama Optical Mouse
[21:16] <rockhopper> dollarbang, "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 093a:2510 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Hama Optical Mouse"
[21:16] <Dunkirk> LTS updates are going to made for 3 years on the desktop, but 5 years on the server. How can I tell which version was used to install a machine?
[21:16] <mikeru> Ersul i think ubuntu-restricted-extras is enough for lame
[21:16] <rockhopper> dollarbang, your mouse's manufacturer's name in the place of mine..
[21:16] <JavaNunes> system no shutdown
[21:17] <dollarbang> rockhopper: No, my mouse is a logitech, and not listed.
[21:17] <rockhopper> dollarbang, pm me
[21:17] <scriptwarlock> Dunkirk: lsb_release -a
[21:17] <ezy> alinon, thanks, i think im going to use this http://bit.ly/dBzZAQ
[21:17] <Kartagis> I'm trying to download a clip from youtube, the site says I don't have java, but I do. what can I do?
[21:17] <erUSUL> mikeru: but maybe not for m4a ? dunno /me shrugs
[21:18] <alinon> ezy: glad ya found something ya like
[21:18] <duffydack> erUSUL,  its aac isnt it.
[21:19] <Chiggins> Hey, I want to go to System->Prefs->Network Connections ... But that entry doesn't exist. How can I get to it?
[21:19] <dogmatic69> rww: would i be able to chmod all tmp/* files in /var/www
[21:19] <crow_> my system sometimes restarts when I want it to shut down. any advice?
[21:19] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Play the video normally in your browser and grab the video from /tmp ( it will be named Flash* )
[21:19] <blink> is there any sort of disk Defragmentation tool for Ubuntu?
[21:19] <dogmatic69> ie only folders named tmp in /var/www
[21:19] <duffydack> erUSUL, we had this the other night :)  questions about aac in repo ffmpegs..
[21:19] <Jordan_U> !defrag | blink
[21:20] <Dunkirk> scriptwarlock, Awesome! Thank you! I don't see that there's a difference between my UNR netbook, standard desktop, or server. Is this normal?
[21:20] <ZykoticK9> duffydack, and your and erUSUL's medibuntu AAC did the trick BTW ;)  Thanks.
[21:20] <blink> Jordan_U: cheers for that
[21:20] <AlZIR> hey guys   isnt is possible to resize an extended partition
[21:20] <ezy> alinon: :-)
[21:20] <Kartagis> Jordan_U even if use chromium?
[21:20] <codebrainz> hi.  when i'm installing packages, it always freezes at the Unpacking XXX stage.  Any ideas?
[21:20] <codebrainz> lots of space on my hard drive
[21:21] <deepinthewoods> Hi. I need to make a bash script. How would I delete the first 20 files in a folder?
[21:21] <steve_> codebrainz, are you installing from a official repository?
[21:21] <alinon> dang looks like some dude got the ubuntu logo tattoo'd to the inside of his arm hah
[21:21] <codebrainz> steve_, yes
[21:21] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Yes, as long as you're not using html5 (if you are using html5 I think you can just right click the video to download it).
[21:21] <codebrainz> steve_, first tried 'scons' package, then build-dep for binutils and gcc
[21:21] <blink> Jordan_U: so.. how can i check for unwanted rarely used system files?
[21:21] <steve_> codebrainz, sorry just an idea, not sure beyond that, not much help im afraid
[21:22] <codebrainz> steve_, no worries
[21:22] <Kartagis> thanks Jordan_U
[21:22] <Elnino> help me guyz, my ubuntu laptop can't connect to any wireless nor access any blutooth device
[21:22] <zagabar> I am trying to host a game server on a computer that is in a sub-network below my server. Therefor I need to redirect the traffic that gets to my server to the server I want to host the game on. To do this, I added the following rule: sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s 127.0.0.1/24 -p tcp --dport 26666 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.4:26666    Then I could connect to my game server on the server in the subnetwork from another
[21:22] <zzzed> AlZIR: you wont be able to resize extended partition while it contains logical partitions, you need to delete logical partitions, delete extended partition, resize sda1, reallocate exteneded
[21:22] <test34> Any reliable way to read/write to ext4 from Windows?
[21:23] <WJW> blink, not sure if this is exactly what you want, but in the System -> Administration menu there's Computer Janitor.
[21:23] <codebrainz> deepinthewoods, generally, do a for loop over the files and keep a counter, when the counter == 20, break the loop
[21:23] <blink> WJW: i heard bad stuff about it.
[21:23] <zzzed> test34: no
[21:23] <Jordan_U> test34: colinux can likely allow you to do it, thoug I have no personal experience with it.
[21:24] <JavaNunes> test my server ssh, it is very security, IP 189.116.33.249 , user admin , password is 123
[21:24] <JavaNunes> test my server ssh, it is very security, IP 189.116.33.249 , user admin , password is 123
[21:24] <JavaNunes> test my server ssh, it is very security, IP 189.116.33.249 , user admin , password is 123
[21:24] <FloodBot3> JavaNunes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:24] <WJW> blink, you could patrol Synaptic Package Manager and see whether some of the packages look as though you don't need them.
[21:24] <scriptwarlock> Dunkirk: none that i know of
[21:24] <test34> zzzed, ahh ok, guess I'll have to wait a little longer before the switch then
[21:25] <Alonea> Hi, I have had some strange errors with ubuntu starting with yesterday, but every now and then the X server crashes. Not sure where my logs are, so if someone can tell me where to look, I can pastebin them
[21:25] <zzzed> test34, linux can read/write ntfs partitions.
[21:25] <JPeterson> thune3: i added ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa and installed the winetricks package
[21:26] <codebrainz> Alonea, iirc /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:26] <test34> Jordan_U, I was hopping for something a little more integrated to windows
[21:26] <WJW> test34, not sure whether Cygwin can understand ext4.
[21:26] <test34> zzzed, yes I know, but since I still use Windows I need both ways
[21:26] <Jordan_U> test34: I don't think any such thing exists.
[21:26] <andrew_708476> bazhang are you there
[21:27] <WJW> test34, you could put your personal data on ntfs if you don't mind the lack of Unix-like file permissions.
[21:27] <Elnino> help me guyz, my ubuntu laptop can't connect to any wireless nor access any blutooth device
[21:27] <Alonea> codebrainz: thanks
[21:27] <Seveas> Elnino, killswitch set to 'off'?
[21:27] <ori> Hello. Can someone tell me how to install Xvid for watching clips on the internet?
[21:27] <fross> i, I had some slow wifi problems last night which i fixed with installig a perticulare driver. Today when i left the house i had a file downloading to my server at 1.5mbps now I got home and it was going at 1-5 kbps. i cant seem to figure out why i lost my speed again. any ideas?
[21:28] <Elnino> Seveas, whats that
[21:28] <WJW> Elnino, does the wi-fi stuff show in the info area, upper right?  Can you see the access point names in the menu?
[21:28] <test34> WJW, that might be what I will need to do
[21:28] <NET||abuse> hey guys. how do i take a screenshot while a menu or context menu is open?
[21:29] <Elnino> WJW, no
[21:29] <Seveas> !killswitch
[21:29] <thune3> JPeterson: sry, i forgot that came from that ppa. You set your WINEPREFIX (if not .wine) and just run it from command line, it pops up a gui and you check the option you want.
[21:29] <NET||abuse> i right click on a pair of files, i'm trying to put an instruction page together for a wiki entry on a project, just want a screen shot of the context menu
[21:29] <Jordan_U> NET||abuse: Applications > Accessories > Take Screenshot allows you to take a screenshot in X seconds.
[21:29] <Seveas> meh, ubotu you suck :P
[21:30] <NET||abuse> Jordan_U, ahhh, nice, thanks
[21:30] <scriptwarlock> NET||abuse: press the printscreenSsRq on the keyboard
[21:30] <NET||abuse> scriptwarlock, doesn't work if you have context menu open.
[21:30] <heydemo> how do I get diff command to just show files that have changed?
[21:30] <Jordan_U> NET||abuse: You're welcome.
[21:31] <WJW> Elnino, I don't know, maybe there isn't a driver for your radios.
[21:31] <nooga> hi
[21:31] <WXZ> anyway I can create a zennity pop up and make it "always on top" using terminal?
[21:31] <Elnino> WJW, its was working before, but suddenly it stopped
[21:31] <codebrainz> anyone know how to get packages to install when apt-get is sticking at the Unpacking xxx stage?
[21:32] <codebrainz> WXZ, from a bash script?
[21:32] <Elnino> i notice it stopped after i refuse to enter the keystring stuff
[21:32] <WJW> heydemo, do an "ls -ltr" and the last ones on the list will be the ones that were changed most recently.
[21:32] <WJW> heydemo, see also the "cmp" command.
[21:32] <rockhopper> nooga, hi
[21:32] <nooga> how to remove msttcorefonts? I accidentaly installed this package as a dep for chromium build and suddenly gross XP-like fonts without AA replaced the normal ones
[21:33] <mnaines> What program in Ubuntu can I use with a TV Tuner card to watch TV on my computer?
[21:33] <WXZ> yes codebrainz
[21:33] <WXZ> :s @ pidgin not notifying me about messages sent to me
[21:33] <codebrainz> mnaines, vlc, xawtv, many others too i'm sure
[21:33] <rockhopper> mnaines, do you know that you need to have drivers for you r card first?
[21:33] <WJW> Elnino, when you reboot, does it start working?
[21:33] <MJ94> Is it hard to dual boot Ubuntu? It'd have to be with bootcamp, right? If I have OS X?
[21:34] <mnaines> rockhopper, does Linux have drivers for TV tuner cards?
[21:34] <Elnino> no, it doesn't
[21:34] <codebrainz> WXZ, http://live.gnome.org/Zenity    second item 'todo' :)
[21:34] <zzzed> mnaines, linux has a driver for my tv card
[21:34] <rockhopper> mnaines, yeah
[21:34] <Alonea> codebrainz: there is Xorg.0.log to .5?  Should I include them all? What about Xorg.failsafe.log?
[21:35] <mnaines> rockhopper, Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-950Q is the model I am looking at
[21:35] <codebrainz> WXZ, it'd fairly easy to just use python+pygtk
[21:35] <rockhopper> mnaines, google for the drivers of your specific card
[21:35] <WXZ> dpm
[21:35] <WXZ> don't really want to use python
[21:35] <codebrainz> Alonea, my understanding is that the 0 is the current and the others have been 'rotated' out, presumably failsafe is a log for when x is running in failsafe mode
[21:35] <rockhopper> mnaines,  linux has drivers depending on the chipset in it.. so you can get the appropriate drivers from google searches
[21:36] <WXZ> D: @ todo
[21:36] <zzzed> mnaines, l have a Brooktree Corporation Bt878, and ubuntu supports it out of the box
[21:36] <mnaines> rockhopper, it says support for that particular model will be in the kernel 2.6.26 release
[21:36] <MJ94> Is it hard to dual boot Ubuntu? It'd have to be with bootcamp, right? If I have OS X?
[21:36] <Alonea> codebrainz: yeah, it had an option to run in some low graphics mode after it crashed.
[21:36] <codebrainz> WXZ, you could look at something like the wmctrl utility to see if it can make a specified window always on top
[21:36] <WXZ> I just read up on that, I can't codebrainz
[21:36] <mnaines> rockhopper, I have kernel 2.6.32, so that one should work out of the box for me
[21:37] <codebrainz> Alonea, so that would be the log then i suppose
[21:37] <Ichat> is there a way to get a little more lite version of  Gnome,   in example   changing from a Compositing window manager to a non- compositing ..    and maybe also change to a little bit more lite version of a  display manager (rather than GDM).
[21:37] <rockhopper> mnaines, oh.. I'm sorry i never used a tv tuner card.. so i dont know for sure of will it work or not
[21:37] <Ichat> and what would be recomended
[21:37] <rockhopper> mnaines, if it has the drivers of your chipset, it shud run right out of the box
[21:37] <codebrainz> Ichat, XFCE for a DE
[21:38] <rockhopper> mnaines, yeah if 2.6.26 has your drivers, the latest release will prolly have it too
[21:38] <codebrainz> Ichat, xfwm supports compositing, but similar to metacity rather than compiz
[21:38] <Ichat> codebrainz:  -  last time i checked xfce was also running gdm ??? or was that TOO long ago  ?
[21:38] <codebrainz> Ichat, you can use xdm instead, but it's ugly as hell
[21:38] <codebrainz> or just use a console login and startx from there
[21:39] <WXZ> codebrainz
[21:39] <Chiggins> Alright I have an eth1, but no eth0, which is my other network card... how can i get ubuntu to recognized that card
[21:39] <WXZ> the zenity version I have is 2.31
[21:39] <WXZ> so it should be possible
[21:39] <WXZ> Plans of development for the next release (2.27)
[21:39] <WXZ> that's out dated
[21:39] <zzzed> Ichat, there is a lightweighy display mgr named "slim", never used it, but my bro does
[21:39] <MJ94> Hi, can anyone please help?
[21:39] <scriptwarlock> nooga: have you checked in the synaptic package manager?
[21:40] <Ichat> codebrainz:  - tnx for the headsup ;) -  thing is that i REALY like thunar - and the network intergration ans lots of other thunar addons.  but the WHOLE gnome stuf is a bit on the  bloat side for my  1,1ghz Athlon xp ...  with only  700mb sdram.
[21:40] <WXZ> what's the problem MJ94
[21:40] <zzzed> Ichat, there is a lightweighy display mgr named "slim", never used it, but my bro does
[21:40] <Ichat> zzzed:  -  tnx.
[21:40] <MJ94> Is it hard to dual boot Ubuntu? It'd have to be with bootcamp, right? If I have OS X?
[21:41] <codebrainz> Ichat, yea with the default install, it's pretty big, you can just install a minimal gnome which is every bit as good imo
[21:41] <Alonea> OK, I got my logs now. Lemme paste the links
[21:41] <nooga> scriptwarlock: there is no such package
[21:41] <shuman> does anyone know how to make gnome panel to show only minimized windows from the current "workspace"?
[21:41] <ori> Hello. Can someone tell me how to install Xvid for watching clips on the internet?
[21:42] <Alonea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/481601/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/481602/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/481603/ ,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/481604/
[21:42] <WJW> MJ94, If you don't get an answer, you could try the Ubuntu installer and see what it says about the OS X partitions.
[21:42] <Ichat> i ran xubuntu a while and couldnt't stop myself swearing all the time but for this machine it would be helpfull to  trim down for a few compontents.
[21:42] <jfroebe> ori - check out the mediabuntu repository
[21:42] <ori> jfroebe, what is that?
[21:42] <scriptwarlock> nooga: have you checked in the synaptic package manager?
[21:43] <codebrainz> Ichat, install a "Command Line System" from the "Alternate install CD" and then just install a basic setup
[21:43] <scriptwarlock> nooga: cd /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ nad ls -l
[21:43] <jfroebe> ori - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[21:43] <ori> thnax!
[21:43] <jfroebe> np
[21:44] <MJ94> thanks WJW
[21:44] <Alonea> codebrainz: do you have any idea what the issue is or did you just know where the logs are? I don't wanna keep bothering you if you don't have an idea
[21:44] <nimbiotics> I had a power outtage and now my desktop wont start ubuntu in graphical mode. what can I do? TIA!
[21:44] <prodigel> hi all. I'm gettint deprecated and warning messages from apache2 when using phppgamin although I've set errors_reporting to  E_ALL & ~E_DEPRECATED & ~E_NOTICE in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini. Is there another file to configure apache php module?
[21:44] <codebrainz> Alonea, probably pastebin them, someone might now, i am not an expert
[21:44] <eliotn> ??Maurice
[21:45] <eliotn> @?Maurice
[21:45] <Alonea> codebrainz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/481601/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/481602/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/481603/ ,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/481604/
[21:45] <terrence> Hello
[21:45] <Alonea> codebrainz: on a couple it says: Fatal server error: Failed to submit batchbuffer: Input/output error
[21:45] <terrence> Hi all - I need help fixing my rythbox
[21:46] <terrence> The programme is missing, even from the package list
[21:46] <WJW> nimbiotics, for starters, make sure the file systems get checked.
[21:46] <terrence> Is there anyone who experienced this before
[21:46] <nimbiotics> WJW: how do i do that?
[21:47] <WJW> nimbiotics, you get a command line, right?  I use debugfs to change the count of after how many mounts the file system will be checked during boot.
[21:47] <terrence> Hi - anyone who knows how I can reinstall rythmbox in ubuntu 10.4
[21:48] <codebrainz> Alonea, obviously the (EE) lines are errors, i'd probably try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg just to see if it can fix itself, your call
[21:49] <WJW> terrence, go to the web site for the program, and see whether they talk about a package for Debian-like systems.
[21:49] <Oer> terrence, ubuntu software centre ?
[21:49] <duffydack> terrence, apt-get install rhythmbox
[21:50] <Alonea> codebrainz: yeah, I can try that in a bit. Its kinda intermittent. Its only done it twice. I would just be sitting working on some papers in Open Office and boom, black screen with text talking about x server crashing
[21:50] <delinquentme> SO ive got a HP laptop that FREAKS out when i try to turn off the hardware trackpad mouse via the button on the top of it... anyone know what i should do to disable it without getting ubuntu to trip out?
[21:50] <rockhopper> terrence, apt-get install rhythmbox shud install it
[21:51] <terrence> tried all three
[21:51] <rockhopper> terrence, what does it say when you do sudo apt-get install rhythmbox?
[21:52] <scriptwarlock> terrence: and failed? how about here http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/rhythmbox
[21:52] <ryanakca> terrence: sudo aptitude reinstall rythmbox
[21:52] <terrence> rockhopper: it says Couldn't find package rythmbox
[21:52] <nimbiotics> WJW: please excuse me but im a noob; i dont understand what you mean, can you explain further?
[21:52] <rockhopper> terrence, its rhythmbox, not rythmbox
[21:52] <zzzed> terrence, its spelled rhythmbox
[21:52] <scriptwarlock> terrence: or maybe a typo rhythmbox
[21:54] <WJW> nimbiotics, when you try ctrl-alt-F1, ctrl-alt-F2, etc., do you get login prompts?
[21:54] <curly_> hi, the buttons at top of screen in applications have disappeared, either from upgrade or from users messing it up, help.
[21:55] <nimbiotics> WJW: yes
[21:55] <thune3> Alonea: what is the output of "lspci | grep VGA"
[21:55] <WJW> nimbiotics, type in your name and hit the enter key.
[21:55] <WJW> nimbiotics, it should prompt for a password.  Enter your password and hit Enter.
[21:55] <curly_> the x button at top of application screen and the minimize and maximize button are gone
[21:55] <curly_> from most apps
[21:55] <terrence> thanks scriptwarlock and all you guys - it was a typo
[21:56] <Ichat> codebrainz:  - tnx for the tip - but starting from a text setup would be an issue,  installing takes a long time and,  if i allso must download eatch package etc etc. it would be a LONG nigt. also i have the  gnome cdrom right here.  so starting from it and  replaceing part i dont need would be a bit easier. (i hope)
[21:56] <nimbiotics> WJW: im already loged in, you want me login again?
[21:56] <terrence> Its quite funny now
[21:56] <Alonea> thune3: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[21:56] <terrence> but lousy while I was trying and scratching my head to get it woirking
[21:56] <terrence> Thanks a mil
[21:56] <WJW> nimbiotics, no, if you're logged in, that's fine.  Enter the command "man debugfs".
[21:56] <terrence> Cheers
[21:57] <rockhopper> terrence, hehe cheers
[21:57] <nimbiotics> WJW: i did already but i still dont know what to do
[21:58] <ameetchitnis> I have a ThinkPad R61i laptop with Ubuntu 10.04. My internal microphone does not work. Please help
[21:58] <Mejkpusa> Hi guys, right now i'm trying to get this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1532230&highlight=nutch up and running with 10.04 desktop 32b version, and let's move to the problem, there is a instruction to "Create a new dismax request handler, to enabling relevancy tweaks." by backing up  the original files: and there is the PROBLEM # cp /etc/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml /etc/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml.orig   it doesn't work, i'm pretty new to
[21:58] <Mejkpusa> linux,noob, but what the heck author wants  to do with cp and two files... i don't understand it all, please help me...
[21:58] <WJW> nimbiotics, say "mount | egrep ' / '"
[21:58] <Ichat> codebrainz:   other option might be to start with a working  xubuntu and upgrade that to a more ubuntu-like desktop...   ???
[21:58] <komisch> hi
[21:59] <rockhopper> Alonea, are you having problems with the brightness controll issue?
[21:59] <wilhart> i hawe twinview and all applications start in second display (projector)
[21:59] <WJW> Put a space on each side of the slash.
[21:59] <wilhart> how do ifix this, i have nvidia
[21:59] <wilhart> Option ?TwinViewOrientation? ?LeftOf? ?
[21:59] <lahwran> how do I set a specific startup and shutdown sound in ubuntu?
[21:59] <Poul|Raider> Anyone who can help me with port forwarding, iptables. I got lan eth0 and wan eth1 and ptpp on ppp0. I wanna forward incoming requests from both eth1:4000 and ppp0:4000 to eth0 192.168.0.11:3389
[21:59] <ikonia> Mejkpusa: what is the actual problem you are having
[21:59] <codebrainz> Ichat, xubuntu is pretty ubuntu like
[21:59] <lahwran> is it in gconf or something?
[21:59] <ferran_> goonight people
[21:59] <ferran_> anyone using 10.04 with free drivers ati radeonhd?
[21:59] <Mejkpusa> ikonia: the command # cp /etc/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml /etc/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml.orig
[22:00] <ikonia> Mejkpusa: what's the issue with it ?
[22:00] <komisch> i resized my windows 7 partition, now grub dont lists windows in boot-menu (10.4.1)
[22:00] <pietime> does anyone know which package is "openvz" in ubuntu? i've got all repositories turned on and still can't find it.
[22:00] <WJW> nimbiotics, put the slash with a space on both sides of it in quotes, after the "mount | egrep ".  Put a space between "egrep" and the first quote mark.
[22:00] <ferran_> Im have installed xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd but I don't know if the system is using the driver
[22:00] <Ichat> codebrainz:  - can i just replace xffm with hunnar?
[22:00] <Poul|Raider> i have done so far -  sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth1 --dport 4000 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.11:3389
[22:00] <Ichat> (tunnar)
[22:00] <Alonea> rockhopper: no, starting yesterday, the X Server has crashed a couple times. Like, I will be doing something and then suddenly screen goes black and it gives me verbage about the x server crashing
[22:00] <WJW> nimbiotics, mount | egrep ' / '    # what does it say?
[22:00] <ferran_> any option to see an output of Xorg and see the used driver for the videocard?
[22:00] <ferran_> Im using 10.04
[22:01] <andrew_708476> Is there anyone who's good with Ubuntu in here that doesn't mind helping out a bit
[22:01] <codebrainz> Ichat, you can run thunar in gnome, if that's what you're asking
[22:01] <wolfbiker> hey guys, does anyone have the slightest idea why I can't play dvd's with movie player?
[22:01] <ikonia> andrew_708476: ask your question
[22:01] <Alonea> rockhopper: http://paste.ubuntu.com/481601/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/481602/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/481603/ ,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/481604/
[22:01] <Mejkpusa> ikonia: it doesn't work , /etc/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml is a file not a directory
[22:01] <Lokroer> Hi, where is the hosts file in ubuntu? My computer is acting a bit strange, would you also recommend me a scanner for ubuntu?
[22:01] <ikonia> Mejkpusa: that's right, it's a file, not a directory
[22:01] <cyborgsmurf> how do I search for a specific file in Ubuntu that has the ending like something.xms???
[22:01] <Lokroer> To be shure there's no such thing as viruses or some rootkits:P
[22:01] <ikonia> Lokroer: /etc/hosts
[22:01] <Lokroer> ikonia,  Thanks for that. :)
[22:02] <WJW> cyborgsmurf, find / -name '*.xms' -print
[22:02] <Mejkpusa> ikonia: so what should i do with it,...just need to get it running but it won't
[22:02] <andrew_708476> does anyone know why when I go to install tor it says Package is not available
[22:02] <ikonia> andrew_708476: what is the name of the package you are trying to install
[22:02] <Lokroer> ikonia,  Hosts seems to be fine. The thing is that, it doesn't resolve me the yahoo mail website after I login.
[22:02] <andrew_708476> Tor
[22:02] <cyborgsmurf> what if I dont know the exact name and just the file ending?
[22:02] <Lokroer> ikonia,  This happens only sometimes, don't know why.
[22:02] <nimbiotics> WJW: among a lot of ther stuff, this line calls my attention: "/dev/sdb6 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)"
[22:03] <Oer> Lokroer, host-file /etc/hosts
[22:03] <ikonia> andrew_708476: the package name you're trying it "tor"
[22:03] <Lokroer> ikonia,  Can you also recommend me a virus scanner?
[22:03] <ikonia> Lokroer: sounds like a dns failure
[22:03] <andrew_708476> yes
[22:03] <scriptwarlock> curly: what is you concern again?
[22:03] <Lokroer> ikonia,  Ohh didn't thought about that.
[22:03] <ikonia> Lokroer: you don't need a virus scanned
[22:03] <ryanakca> I'm trying to network to Ubuntu boxes together. Interfaces for A and B can be found at http://paste.ubuntu.com/481607/ . A is the gateway, B is a box connected to it over ethernet. My issue isn't hardware related because I've tried putting new ethernet cards in both boxes and trying different ethernet cables. Any ideas as to why the two boxes don't see each other?
[22:03] <WJW> nimbiotics, That means that /dev/sdb6 is your root file system.  So you have to sudo debugfs -w /dev/sdb6
[22:03] <ikonia> andrew_708476: that package doesn't exist in 10.04
[22:03] <Lokroer> ikonia,  There are rootkits and viruses on ubuntu too...
[22:04] <ikonia> Lokroer: you don't need a virus scanner
[22:04] <Oer> !virus
[22:04] <Lokroer> ikonia,  I don't have wine but I've heard there are viruses and rootkits for it too.
[22:04] <ikonia> Lokroer: you don't need a virus scanner
[22:04] <Aesculapius> !why
[22:04] <Lokroer> Oer,  Thanks, I'll have to read that document
[22:04] <Lokroer> ikonia,  Excuse me then, I'm a beginner.
[22:04] <dogmatic69> is there a preferred way of installing fonts?
[22:04] <Mejkpusa> ikonia: any advice ?
[22:04] <ikonia> Lokroer: so listen to what people are telling you
[22:04] <pietime> does anyone know which package is "openvz" in ubuntu? i've got all repositories turned on and still can't find it.
[22:04] <moxypen> hi people
[22:04] <ikonia> Mejkpusa: I'm not sure I'm following the issue, you're copying a file
[22:05] <eliotn> one question
[22:05] <trollboy> dogmatic69, right clicking the font, and choosing of install works for me
[22:05] <nimbiotics> WJW: wgich debugfs command have i got to use?
[22:05] <eliotn> if you enter a labyrinth, do you exit in the same position?
[22:05] <rww> ubottu: ot | eliotn
[22:05] <eliotn> ugh
[22:05] <eliotn> wrong channel
[22:05] <moxypen> lol
[22:05] <eliotn> sorry
[22:05] <steve_> ryanakca, so if you from box B try 'ping <boxA ip> you dont get any joy?
[22:06] <Seveas> eliotn, Ubuntu can be a labyrinth too :-)
[22:06] <eliotn> but I have a ubuntu related question
[22:06] <eliotn> lol
[22:06] <WJW> nimbiotics, you or I have to go through some of the help files to be reminded (in my case) or to learn (in your case) how to change the parameter that says how often to check the file system.
[22:06] <eliotn> I want to back up my ubuntu installation
[22:06] <ryanakca> steve_: Nope
[22:06] <jrib> !backup | eliotn
[22:06] <pietime> why does the openvz package no longer exist in ubuntu? do i have to download it the PITA way?
[22:06] <bonez2046> eliotn: what have you tried so far?
[22:06] <eliotn> I will look through these things
[22:06] <eliotn> !cloning
[22:07] <jrib> pietime: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVZ
[22:07] <nimbiotics> WJW: reading ...
[22:07] <WJW> nimbiotics, start with "help".
[22:07] <ryanakca> steve_: I'm at a loss to explain why, to the best of my memory, it's the same config as what was working between Lucid <-> Debian Sid.
[22:07] <dogmatic69> trollboy: cool thanks
[22:07] <pietime> jrib, thanks that's for hardy though?
[22:07] <steve_> ryanakca, from my limited experience I would suggest that It may be the network cable. I may be missing something
[22:07] <jrib> pietime: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVZ
[22:07] <ryanakca> steve_: I've tried two.
[22:07] <pietime> jrib, thanks that's for hardy though!
[22:07] <mib_mib> what command line command can i use to find out if i am 64 bit or 32 bit ubuntu and version
[22:07] <LinuxGuy2009> How do I report a problem with the alternate CD jigdo file pointing to files that dont exist in the repos? There are 71 total.
[22:07] <jrib> pietime: I read what you said, please read what I said :/
[22:08] <Elnino> exit
[22:08] <ikonia> mib_mib: just use uname -a
[22:08] <moxypen> I'm afraid I have a noob question,,, I just updated from 10.04 LTS to 10.10 via Update... and now I cant boot into the GUI ( I CAN boot into the shell though...) - I've got a Radeon 5750 but have no idea how to fix the xorg thing
[22:08] <pietime> jrib, i accidentally put a question mark at the end the first time i said it
[22:08] <steve_> ryanakca, Well that is interesting! Is there anything exciting going on in the log files? Also are you going through a router or are is it a direct connection?
[22:08] <jrib> pietime: ok, but the answer is the same
[22:08] <rockhopper> is ubottu a bot?
[22:08] <jrib> rockhopper: yes
[22:08] <rww> rockhopper: yes
[22:08] <rockhopper> Oo
[22:08] <ikonia> moxypen: if your a new user, you really shouldn't be using a development version of ubuntu (10.10)
[22:08] <pietime> jrib, the package no longer exists for lucid
[22:08] <rockhopper> how to ask questions to it?
[22:09] <moxypen> umm.. thanks ikonia :) - you;re right
[22:09] <jrib> pietime: not sure what you want me to tell you.  Read the link, it has lucid instructions
[22:09] <Oer> pietime, read carefull, there is a section 10.04
[22:09] <moxypen> I'm not really a new user, just cant remember how to restore the xorg stuff
[22:09] <smw> !bot > rockhopper
[22:09] <pietime> ok got it... sorry!
[22:09] <ikonia> moxypen: I'd do a clean instlal back to 10.04
[22:09] <mib_mib> ikonia: thanks
[22:09] <rockhopper> smw, ty
[22:09] <ikonia> moxypen: 10.10 is not stable and if your not happy debugging you're going to have a hard time
[22:10] <Mejkpusa> ikonia: do you know any solution or still following issue ?
[22:10] <Xearo> Loving Linux so far but I am having a lot of issues with stuff just as simple as internet browsing. I noticed there are a lot of streaming videos that do not work eg. xvid formats (see xvid.org) and some divx formats. I installed the restricted add-ons but cant seem to get a lot of stuff to work right. I googled the hell out of the subject but could not find what I am looking for. Any suggestions?
[22:10] <jrib> Xearo: be more specific
[22:10] <moxypen> thanks ikonia... was wondering if anyone else had the same issue (re: grphics card)
[22:11] <ikonia> Mejkpusa: I'm still not understanding the issue, I don't see a problem, you're copying a file to another file, that's not a problem
[22:11] <Licuadora> Ubuntu works when it wants
[22:11] <Xearo> Like inside the video it will say you must have blah codec installed and it will take me to a windows installer
[22:11] <ikonia> moxypen: 10.10 is not supported, you can discuss it in #ubuntu+1
[22:11] <moxypen> kk.. thanks
[22:11] <rockhopper>  ubottu: ot | rockhopper
[22:11] <Xearo> So I install the Linux equivalent and it stil will not work
[22:11] <revenantphx> GUYS I JUST WANT TO SAY
[22:11] <jrib> Xearo: link us to a video that does not work; tell us exactly what you installed (i.e. a package name)
[22:11] <revenantphx> uBUNTU IS AWESOME
[22:11] <revenantphx> KTHXBAI
[22:11] <FloodBot3> revenantphx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:11] <ikonia> revenantphx: please don't
[22:12] <MasterCheese> Hey, I'm running Ubuntu Server 10.04.1 under Windows Hyper-V (It's a VPS), and I'm having some trouble executing some files relating to Valve's srcds. I can touch the files, permissions are set to 777, and I can see them in ls, but when trying to execute them I'm being told the file/directory cannot be found. Any ideas?
[22:12] <Xearo> kk wait one
[22:12] <jrib> MasterCheese: 64 bit?
[22:12] <ikonia> MasterCheese: what files are they
[22:12] <MJ94> Can someone please help me with putting Ubuntu on my mac?
[22:13] <MasterCheese> I'm not sure if it's 64-bit, and the files are hldsupdatetool.bin, the steam binary itself, and srcds_linux
[22:13] <ryanakca> steve_: Direct connection, ethernet cable going from eth0 on A to eth0 on B
[22:13] <smw> MJ94, do you have a specific question?
[22:13] <MasterCheese> Those are the ones that have had troubles, anyway
[22:13] <jrib> MJ94: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[22:13] <ryanakca> steve_: And nothing in the logs ...
[22:13] <jrib> MasterCheese: uname -m
[22:14] <jrib> !enter | MasterCheese
[22:14] <ikonia> MasterCheese: I suspect your on 64bit and trying to run a 32bit application
[22:14] <Xearo> jrib, http://www.watch-movies.net.in/xvid-movie.php?name=grown-ups-2010
[22:14] <jrib> !who | MasterCheese
[22:14] <Mejkpusa> ikonia: maybe this would help you to figure it out root@makapusak-desktop:~# cd /etc/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml /etc/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml.org       bash:  cd: /etc/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml: Not a directory
[22:14] <steve_> ryanakca, are you using a crossover cable or just a patch?
[22:14] <ikonia> Mejkpusa: you're using the command "cd" not "cp"
[22:14] <ikonia> Mejkpusa: cd is "change directory" your trying to enter a "file" you can only enter a directory
[22:14] <Mejkpusa> ikonia: lol, i'm sorry :D
[22:14] <jrib> MasterCheese: that's flash :/
[22:15] <MJ94> jrib, smw: just wanted to know how to.
[22:15] <Mejkpusa> ikonia: thank you :)
[22:15] <jrib> MasterCheese: and the site just looks like a virus site to be honest...
[22:15] <zzzed> !tab
[22:15] <jrib> MasterCheese: sorry wrong nick!
[22:15] <scriptwarlock> MJ94: or some references here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[22:15] <jrib> Xearo: that's flash.  And the site just looks like a virus site.
[22:16] <Xearo> It works on my Windows Machine I installed the plug in from the xvid.org site
[22:16] <jrib> Xearo: and it's for illegally watching movies...
[22:16] <MasterCheese> jrib: uname -m gives x86_64, but we've had no problems running on this machine before, we were just using a different virtualisation suite
[22:16] <LinuxGuy2009> The 10.04.1 alternate jigdo file does not work. There are 71 files that are not found in the repository. How do I report this problem?
[22:16] <jrib> MasterCheese: install ia32-libs
[22:16] <carlosgaldino> Hi, I have an acer laptop and I'm using alsa as the sound manager. How can I integrate the keyboard volume control to the alsa mixer? The volume keys are now controlling the gnome-volume-control and they are doing nothing
[22:16] <jrib> Xearo: find a non-piracy site that doesn't work and I can try to help you with that
[22:17] <Xearo> Yeah well... When I take this laptop to Iraq next week I dont think there are a lot of movie places around
[22:17] <Xearo> So its watch stuff there or not watch it for a year
[22:17] <jon_high9000> hello. I am currently running ubuntu 9.10 and would like to upgrade to 10.04. does anyboy know if the bug that regards compaq presario not loading livecd for 10.04 has been solved or no?
[22:17] <lahwran> Xearo, get movies legally, rip them
[22:17] <jrib> Xearo: right because there aren't legal alternatives...
[22:17] <lahwran> jrib, actually, what I said is legal
[22:18] <Xearo> Ok thanks for your help :)
[22:18] <ryanakca> steve_: patch
[22:18] <MasterCheese> jrib: That worked perfectly, thanks so much
[22:18] <steve_> ryanakca, Remember that im most cases if you are directly connecting pc's together using a cable, you will need to use a crossover cable, the transit and receive wire are crossed so that two cards can talk
[22:18] <WJW> nimbiotics, ssv max_mnt_count 0
[22:18] <mbostwick> hello, I am trying to connect to a university network, using peap and ms-chapv2 however, I need to get the host servers certificate to complete the peap process, the school dosnt support linux and windows along with mac both automatically can accept the certificate. is there a way to do that in linux ?
[22:18] <LinuxGuy2009> jon_high9000: Are you upgrading or clean install? If upgrading then you need the alternate CD if you wish to use a disk to do the job.
[22:18] <jrib> Xearo: seriously I'd be wary of using that site on windows...
[22:18] <WJW> nimbiotics, then quit the utility and reboot.
[22:18] <steve_> ryanakca, I think this is probably your problem ;) I hope so anyway. There will be some cases where the card will automatically allow for this but not all cards will do this
[22:19] <ikonia> mbostwick: ask the school for the certificate, other than that, no
[22:19] <jrib> MasterCheese: no problem
[22:19] <WJW> nimbiotics, when you reboot, your system should tell you it's checking the root file system, and should take some time doing that.
[22:19] <mbostwick> ikonia: it has to be possible(school won't give it to me) , if windows and mac can do it why can't linux ?
[22:19] <WJW> nimbiotics, your display problem might not be solved, but it's the first step after a crash, to make sure your file system is healthy.
[22:19] <jrib> MasterCheese: that was probably one of the most cryptic error messages I ever came across when I first encountered them :)
[22:19] <Pirate_Hunter> !bonding | Pirate_Hunter
[22:19] <ikonia> mbostwick: because they make requests that are supported by the application
[22:20] <ikonia> mbostwick: it doesn't "have" to be possible if the application doesn't support it
[22:20] <ryanakca> steve_: On which end would the problem be?
[22:20] <Scunizi> what can I use at the command line to play a music file?  Tried aplay with a mp3 and nothing but static
[22:20] <Xase> Hey, how do I remove a panel icon's background... ?
[22:20] <jrib> mbostwick: I *think* (have no clue really, but no harm in trying) I once connected to a network like that using wicd
[22:20] <Xase> I installed banshee, but when I run it, it has a background behind it in the panel... how do I alleviate this?
[22:21] <jrib> Scunizi: mplayer, mpd if you want something more serious
[22:21] <MJ94> How do I know for sure if rEFit is installed right?
[22:21] <mbostwick>  jrib: had trouble with every method I could find, I am trying to find documentation on the protocol so that I can write code to support this....
[22:21] <jrib> MJ94: you'll see a new thing when you boot :)
[22:21] <thune3> Scunizi: mpg123 if you want minimal mp3 only
[22:21] <carlosgaldino> Hi, I have an acer laptop and I'm using alsa as the sound manager. How can I integrate the keyboard volume control to the alsa mixer? The volume keys are now controlling the gnome-volume-control and they are doing nothing
[22:22] <Scunizi> jrib: actually I'm looking for something that I can use as a command line option with a countdown plasma widget
[22:22] <jrib> mbostwick: so you tried wicd and it didn't work?
[22:22] <steve_> ryanakca, Its not a problem with either if im right. It what you need to do is either buy a patch cable or get a converter for one end. I brought http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cat5e-Ethernet-Network-Crossover-Adapter/dp/B000Q6JQCQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1282425700&sr=8-3 but its a bit cheap and nasty
[22:22] <jon_high9000> LinuxGuy2009: i have repeatedly tried both. no luck so far. i read in launchpad that there is a bug in the live cd that prevents the cd from functioning properly.
[22:22] <Scunizi> thune3: thanks.. I'd forgotten about that one.
[22:22] <jrib> Scunizi: I don't understand what you just said
[22:22] <lahwran> it's narcotics ... it's narcotics ... why can't they tell ...
[22:22] <lahwran> finally they figured it out!
[22:23] <LinuxGuy2009> jon_high9000: Well you can not use the live CD to upgrade 10.04. to the new 10.04.1 point release. The live CDs contain no package files to do so.
[22:23] <mbostwick> jrib:this is for my gf who is 6 hours away...she couldn't get wicd to work with the wireless, and I am only able to get what I can done through a reverse ssh tunnel, and even running wireshark through x-over ssh forward was harsh
[22:23] <jrib> mbostwick: erm
[22:23] <mbostwick> (trying to get wicd working would cause me to drop networking)
[22:23] <MJ94> jrib: Hmm. where?
[22:23] <Scunizi> jrib: I'm running kubuntu and there's a screen widget that you can set to countdown to 0 from whatever you set it at.. when it reaches 0 it typically makes a "boink" sound but has the option of passing a command ..
[22:23] <jrib> mbostwick: wicd should "just work" after installing it, maybe reboot to make sure
[22:23] <LinuxGuy2009> jon_high9000: Otherwise just use your internet connection and upgrade as updates become available.
[22:24] <jon_high9000> linuxGuy2009: so use the alternate then?
[22:24] <jrib> MJ94: when you boot your computer, you will see a new screen
[22:24] <mbostwick>  jrib: had trouble with gnomes default network manager clashing with wicd
[22:24] <oliver_> when i use my ati 5770 with the proprietary drivers and try to record with gtk-recordmydesktop it's lagging alot! heeelp
[22:24] <ryanakca> steve_: Thanks
[22:24] <LinuxGuy2009> jon_high9000: alternate CD as a repo source or the internet/update manager.
[22:24] <jrib> mbostwick: iirc the packages conflict so it should automatically get removed
[22:24] <MJ94> Nope. jrib. But I'm sure I did it right. It said installed.
[22:25] <jrib> Scunizi: right, so mplayer would work fine but mpg321 is good too
[22:25] <Scunizi> jrib: yes.. thanks
[22:25] <steve_> ryanakca, hope it works for you. got to go, good luck
[22:25] <jrib> MJ94: maybe it only shows up if you have more than one OS, idk
[22:25] <mbostwick> jrib: do you know in console how to check services that auto start in ubuntu ?
[22:25] <jon_high9000> LinuxGuy2009:add the cd to the sources then?
[22:25] <mbostwick> (I run arch my self...)
[22:26] <jrib> mbostwick: well... short answer: /etc/init and /etc/rc*.d
[22:26] <LinuxGuy2009> jon_high9000: yes if you want to use a physical disc as your package source.
[22:26] <Scunizi> thune3: that worked great..
[22:27] <Gulah> hi there guys
[22:27] <jrib> mbostwick: can you actually find some bugs or other semi-official documentation on your issue?
[22:27] <Gulah> can someone help me out_
[22:27] <jrib> Gulah: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[22:27] <Gulah> ?
[22:27] <jon_high9000> LinuxGuy2009: ok. thanks for the help. :)
[22:28] <LinuxGuy2009> jon_high9000: welcome
[22:28] <alex87> am i the only one with a huge regression with how dvd drives operate? right now it is repeatedly scanning for a disc that isn't there, and won't read dvds (but other discs it will). this is across other distros and hardware as well.
[22:28] <mbostwick> jrib: I really haven't been able to find much on this because in a lot of cases tech support for people running those kind of wireless networks just offers the certificate
[22:28] <jrib> alex87: bugs.ubuntu.com is the right place to get an answer to that
[22:28] <Gulah> sorry, here it goes, my boot is messed up, I-ve tried to reinstall brug2, but theres something missing, because i keep getting a "Read Error" when i boot
[22:29] <jrib> mbostwick: unrelated but why on earth wouldn't they give your friend the cert?
[22:29] <alex87> jrib, i'm just confused as to why no one else is experiencing it, since it has been such a hassle on so many machines i have
[22:30] <jrib> alex87: hasn't happened to me, but bugs.ubuntu.com is the right place to see if anyone else is experiencing the issue.  And if not, then maybe start a bug?
[22:30] <carlosgaldino> How can I map the keyboard volume controls to control the alsa mixer?
[22:30] <mbostwick> jrib: because it's a school and they don't know what they are doing, I have asked before and they said they can't distribute that... (I don't know why, very stupid if you ask me...)
[22:30] <jfroebe> alex87 - sounds like a bad dvd drive
[22:30] <MJ94> I'm not sure rEFit is installed correctly. Help, please?
[22:30] <alex87> jfroebe, it sure does, but other machines have the same problem
[22:30] <jrib> mbostwick: yeah... maybe easier to workaround by getting the certificate using windows or mac somehow and then transferring it to ubuntu?
[22:31] <jrib> MJ94: how did you install it?
[22:31] <mbostwick> (seems like they don't understand the underlying purpose behind the certificate, so they see it as a security problem ), that's my next goal, but I am 6 hours away and telling my friend to do that is hard because she is not very technical ....
[22:31] <MJ94> jrib: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/refit/rEFIt-0.14.dmg?use_mirror= then .mkpg or whatever it is.
[22:32] <jrib> mbostwick: hmm, idk.  If no one else here can help, maybe try one of the dev channels for wicd or network manager.  They'll probably know more about it.  gl
[22:32] <mbostwick> I am surprised wpa_supplicant dose not automatically fetch it, I wouldn't mind making the code that accepts the certificate if I could find more detail on the peap protocol
[22:32] <jrib> MJ94: and everything went smoothly through the GUI?
[22:32] <feen> Hi. Everytime I try to install a package via the software center I get the following error: The installation could have failed because there is an error in the software package or it was canceled. (This error message was translated from brazilian portuguese)
[22:32] <mbostwick> jrib: ok thanks
[22:32] <MJ94> jrib: hmm?
[22:33] <jrib> MJ94: something popped up, some sort of configuration window, right?
[22:33] <Xase> There should be an option in the forums to donate to users, if you find they have been extremely helpful. But of course only as an optional option to enable on the cp, and set up... that would rock... there's been plenty of times where I wished -dang, I wish I could donate, because this person has been a big help.-
[22:33] <Gulah> can someone help me out?
[22:33] <MJ94> No, I got to the part that said "installation sucessful", jrib.
[22:33] <jrib> !helpme | Gulah
[22:34] <jrib> Gulah: what is "brug2"?
[22:34] <Gulah> grug2
[22:34] <jrib> MJ94: and then you rebooted?
[22:34] <Gulah> grub2
[22:34] <jrib> Gulah: why are you reinstalling it?  What is the exact error?
[22:35] <MJ94> Yes, jrib.
[22:35] <doctorZeus> what does a green highlight in terminal mean next to files/directories?
[22:35] <carlosgaldino> How can I map the keyboard volume controls to control the alsa mixer?
[22:35] <wolfbiker> hey guys, does anyone have the slightest idea why I can't play dvd's with movie player?
[22:35] <jrib> MJ94: what is in /efi?
[22:35] <Gulah> when i boot my computer i get a "Read error" and I stay there
[22:35] <jrib> !dvd | wolfbiker
[22:35] <Gulah> it stays
[22:36] <MJ94> jrib: How do I check?
[22:36] <wolfbiker> ubottu, all right thanks!
[22:36] <jrib> Gulah: please keep messages to one line (press enter one time) and please also address the person you are replying :)  Thanks!
[22:36] <pietime> Hi, I made the flavor change from Ubuntu to Lubuntu recently and now when I play networked media it skips. Could anyone help me find out why this is happening?
[22:37] <jfroebe> alex87 - what's the same on the different machines?  the same model dvd drive?  perhaps a bad disc that was used in the different drives that  scratched the lenses?
[22:37] <MJ94> jrib: How do I check?
[22:37] <jrib> MJ94: wait, on http://refit.sourceforge.net/doc/c1s1_install.html it links to a .dmg :/
[22:37] <MJ94> Yes...
[22:37] <MJ94> jrib: I'm on a mac.
[22:38] <jrib> MJ94: didn't you mention a .mpkg or something?
[22:38] <pietime> What could cause networked media to skip!?
[22:38] <jrib> MJ94: ah ignore me... continue...
[22:38] <Gulah> jrib: I get a "Read Error" and my computer won't boot
[22:38] <jrib> Gulah: why are you reinstalling it?  What is the exact error?
[22:39] <MJ94> jrib: so, what do I do?
[22:39] <jrib> MJ94: what is in /efi ?  That's a directory
[22:39] <thune3> pietime: not enough buffer, slow network connection...
[22:40] <Gulah> jrib: I get a "Read Error", just this and I've installed it in the partition with ubuntu
[22:40] <jrib> Gulah: did grub work when you first installed ubuntu?
[22:40] <MJ94> jrib: -bash: cd: efi: No such file or directory
[22:40] <AlZIR> pietime: probalt just network lag
[22:40] <jrib> MJ94: cd /efi
[22:40] <pietime> thune3, how do i change the buffer?
[22:40] <AlZIR> pietime: probaly* just network lag
[22:41] <MJ94> jrib: rEFIt License.rtf	refit
[22:41] <MJ94> rEFIt ReadMe.rtf	tools
[22:41] <jrib> MJ94: in refit?
[22:41] <MJ94> ?
[22:41] <Gulah> jrib: nop that's why I was trying to reinstall it, from time to time I had to reinstall it, because I would get this error, but now even when I reinstall it still dows not work
[22:41] <feen> Hi. Everytime I try to install a package via the software center I get the following error: The installation could have failed because there is an error in the software package or it was canceled. (This error message was translated from brazilian portuguese)
[22:42] <cyborgsmurf> what if I dont know the exact name but just the file ending in Ubuntu, how to search?
[22:42] <jrib> Gulah: how far does it get?  What exactly do you see before the error?  You are sure it says exactly "Read Error" and nothing else at all?
[22:42] <MJ94> jrib: cd /efi/ && ls
[22:42] <MJ94> rEFIt License.rtf	refit
[22:42] <MJ94> rEFIt ReadMe.rtf	tools
[22:42] <jrib> cyborgsmurf: you want to search your filesystem for a file?
[22:42] <nimbiotics> WJW: Thanks man, I was going nuts here...
[22:42] <jrib> MJ94: what's inside refit?
[22:42] <pietime> thune3, how do i change the buffer?
[22:42] <pietime> thune3, how do i change the buffer?
[22:42] <Tempus_Fugit> Ok so how do I change my splash/login screen ....i dont like it
[22:42] <pietime> oops
[22:42] <FloodBot3> pietime: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:42] <AlZIR> cyborgsmurf:  try " *.filetype "
[22:43] <Gulah> jrib: I see the window with the bios option and then I just see that error
[22:43] <thune3> pietime: your are using totem (movie player)?
[22:43] <pietime> yes
[22:43] <pietime> thune3, yes
[22:43] <_genuser_> oye totem is the worst.
[22:43] <MJ94> jrib: enable-always.sh	icons			refit.efi
[22:43] <MJ94> enable.sh		refit.conf		refit.vollabel
[22:43] <cyborgsmurf> jrib: yes because I have milkytracker installed and I cant find the songs
[22:43] <jrib> Gulah: try the grub channel, I'm not sure
[22:43] <orlandogro> hello
[22:43] <jrib> cyborgsmurf: you can use the "locate" command after running "sudo updatedb"
[22:44] <orlandogro> i need help
[22:44] <pietime> thune3, but ive tried other media players as well
[22:44] <jrib> MJ94: maybe follow the "removing refit" instructions and then the manual install method?  I think I used the manual install as well.  I am not sure why the install didn't work for you.
[22:44] <jrib> orlandogro: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[22:44] <edwinsito> alguien dialoga en español??
[22:44] <Gulah> thx
[22:45] <pietime> can someone tell me how to increase your network buffer in ubuntu?
[22:45] <MJ94> !es edwinsito
[22:45] <MJ94> !es | edwinsito
[22:45] <thune3> pietime: for totem(movie player) there is http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2982400&postcount=5 , but if you don't have enough network bandwidth, it will not fix the issue.
[22:45] <edwinsito> ok
[22:45] <cyborgsmurf> jrib: okay but what if I only want the file extension like filename.xms
[22:45] <Tempus_Fugit> Can anyone help me change my splash screen and login prompt...running the most recent update of lucid......24 i believe
[22:45] <jrib> cyborgsmurf: you can use regex
[22:45] <AlZIR> cyborgsmurf:  try " *.xms"
[22:46] <pietime> thune3, ive got plenty 'o bandwidth
[22:47] <cyborgsmurf> AIZIR: you mean "find *.xms ?
[22:47] <Tempus_Fugit> would like to use this as my splash screen http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/teams/art.gnome.org/themes/splash_screens/Splash-Utopia.png
[22:47] <MJ94> edwinsito: hables ingles en #ubuntu. hablan espanol en #ubuntu-es :) hablo un poco espanol, lo siento! buen suerte!
[22:48] <MJ94> Hope I didn't screw that up.
[22:48] <AlZIR> cyborgsmurf: I thought were using  the gui search feature from the places menu
[22:48] <AlZIR> cyborgsmurf: I thought *you were using  the gui search feature from the places menu
[22:48] <MJ94> jrib: how do I remove it?
[22:48] <jrib> MJ94: you can also just have ubottu do it by typing: !es | person's_nick
[22:49] <jrib> MJ94: http://refit.sourceforge.net/doc/
[22:49] <MJ94> jrib: I did earlier. the !es.
[22:49] <Angstrom_> hello
[22:49] <jrib> MJ94: ah
[22:49] <Angstrom_> Mandriva
 edwinsito: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[22:49] <Tempus_Fugit> I seem to be able to change themes pretty easy just not fond of my splash and login screen
[22:49] <MJ94> see?
[22:49] <Angstrom_> How do I enable microphones in flash apps
[22:49] <Angstrom_> How do I enable microphones in flash apps in Firefox?
[22:49] <Angstrom_> It keeps saying:
[22:49] <jrib> MJ94: I trust you, don't worry :)
[22:50] <Angstrom_> You must first "Allow" permissions in "Microphone Settings" to use Voice Search.
[22:50] <Tonisius> What happened to the ntpd service for servers?  is there an alternative to running ntpdate once a day? or every 5 minutes?
[22:50] <Seveas> Tonisius, /etc/init.d/ntpd start :)
[22:50] <Tonisius> Seveas: not supported
[22:50] <Tonisius> it's no longer available
[22:50] <Daskreech> hello :)
[22:50] <nimbiotics> WJW: system restarted as usual and froze again. Also, I'm using automatic login, System freezes once it shows this screen and snd  Caps Lock and Scroll Lock start blinking. None of this happens when I start windows or linux command prompt
[22:50] <Angstrom_> How do I enable microphones in flash apps in Firefox?
[22:50] <Tonisius> Seveas: how did you manage to instlal this?
[22:50] <Daskreech> Is anyone familiar with ms-sys ?
[22:51] <Angstrom_> It keeps saying: You must first "Allow" permissions in "Microphone Settings" to use Voice Search.
[22:51] <cyborgsmurf> AIZIR: is there an easier way to like create a shortcut for a quick search for a file?
[22:51] <jrib> !info openntpd | Tonisius
[22:51] <Angstrom_> How do I enable microphones in Flash applications in Firefox?  It keeps saying: You must first "Allow" permissions in "Microphone Settings" to use Voice Search.
[22:51] <Angstrom_> !info flash microphone
[22:51] <Angstrom_> !info cleaning poop off a dildo
[22:51] <smallfoot-> sqlite and/or PDO_SQLITE isnt available on Ubuntu PHP cli?
[22:51] <jrib> Angstrom_: don't do that please.
[22:52] <Seveas> !ops | Angstrom_
[22:52] <smallfoot-> sqlite and/or PDO_SQLITE isnt available on Ubuntu PHP cli?
[22:52] <Seveas> Tonisius, sudo apt-get install ntp
[22:52] <Seveas> Tonisius, it's /etc/init.d/ntp start btw :)
[22:52] <d3vic3> hitting enter when numlock enabled doesn't execute commands under WMII, any ideas?
[22:53] <Seveas> d3vic3, use the normal enter, not the numpad enter
[22:53] <Gulah> I can't get no help in grub
[22:53] <d3vic3> Seveas: i do
[22:53] <andrew_708476> IS there anyone who is good with Window or Ubuntu in this room
[22:53] <jrib> andrew_708476: no
[22:53] <Gulah> can someone help me fix my grub2?
[22:53] <rockhopper> andrew_708476, lol?
[22:53] <Seveas> andrew_708476, no.
[22:54] <andrew_708476> ok I got your point
[22:54] <MJ94> jrib: While booted into Mac OS X, rename or remove the “efi” folder. For a 100% clean de-installation, also remove the folder “rEFItBlesser” inside “Library/StartupItems”.  Can't find Library/StartupItems.
[22:54] <jrib> andrew_708476: you can just ask your question here if it's ubuntu related
[22:54] <jrib> MJ94: probably why it wasn't working?
[22:54] <bonez2046> why when I go to print something, does the print options dialogue take several seconds to gather device information? Why is it not immediate?
[22:55] <MJ94> jrib: so... now what?
[22:55] <KE1HA> Gulah:  what is the problem your having with Grub2?
[22:55] <jrib> MJ94: install manually?
[22:55] <rockhopper> bonez2046, it depends in your cu's processing power!!
[22:55] <andrew_708476> Im just trying to ask if there's anyone who's good with installing Tor into Ubuntu
[22:55] <Gulah> It isn-t working, when I try to boot my pc I get a "read error"
[22:55] <bonez2046> rockhopper: it's delayed if just one app is open and I want to print from it, or if I have 10 apps running
[22:56] <zulgaban> hi
[22:56] <AlZIR> ikonia is busy tonight!
[22:56] <KE1HA> !details | Gulah
[22:56] <Seveas> AlZIR, make sure not to get on his bad side!
[22:56] <pietime> can anyone tell me how to increase the networking buffer on ubuntu?
[22:56] <jrib> pietime: that question makes no sense
[22:57] <Seveas> jrib, actually it does
[22:57] <cyborgsmurf> thank you all who helped me :)
[22:57] <rockhopper> does it used to give the device info faster eariler?
[22:57] <jrib> *fikes*
[22:57] <jrib> pietime: that question makes no sense to me
[22:57] <Daskreech> jrib: it does make sense
[22:57] <MJ94> jrib: Download the “Mac disk image” or any of the other two binary distributions from the home page. Double-click to mount or unpack them. means dl http://downloads.sourceforge.net/refit/rEFIt-0.14.dmg?use_mirror= ?
[22:58] <jrib> Daskreech: k
[22:58] <pietime> could the people who it makes sense to tell me how to do it?
[22:58] <rockhopper> bonez2046,  does it used to give the device info faster eariler?
[22:58] <pietime> please!?
[22:58] <AlZIR> Seveas: nah not my thing !
[22:58] <Daskreech> jrib: the network acts like a hard drive. It buffers up information before it's sent
[22:58] <cyborgsmurf> btw I solved the problem with "locate" + "filename"
[22:58] <Seveas> pietime, http://fasterdata.es.net/TCP-tuning/linux.html
[22:58] <Gulah> KE1Ha I-m running ubuntu 10.4 and when I boot my pc I get a black screen qith "Read Error", and it won't boot
[22:59] <Seveas> pietime, tcp_rmem / tcp_wmem are the buffer sizes
[22:59] <SuperMiguel> firefox runs extremelly slow, when used on ubuntu, if im on any other distro it works fine, but in ubuntu it is very slow... any reason on this????
[22:59] <Daskreech> jrib: the other type of device is a character device it sends information as soon as it gets it. A keyboard is like that
[22:59] <pietime> Seveas, this is a difference between ubuntu flavors, not linux kernels, though
[22:59] <jrib> Daskreech: thanks, wasn't aware of that!
[22:59] <Daskreech> pietime simply wants the network to store more information before passing it on
[22:59] <jrib> Daskreech: though it does seem sensible...
[22:59] <KE1HA> pieter_:  This may be of assistance: http://www.ehow.com/how_5998481_increase-ubuntu-buffers-tcp_ip.html
[23:00] <Seveas> Daskreech, errr, the network is a character device
[23:00] <pietime> Seveas, could that document still help?:)
[23:00] <AlZIR> cyborgsmurf: gui search not easier?
[23:00] <MJ94> jrib: Download the “Mac disk image” or any of the other two binary distributions from the home page. Double-click to mount or unpack them. means dl http://downloads.sourceforge.net/refit/rEFIt-0.14.dmg?use_mirror= ?
[23:00] <Seveas> Daskreech, buffering has *nothing* to do with the difference between character (stream-oriented) and block (block-oriented, adressable) devices
[23:01] <Daskreech> pietime: http://fasterdata.es.net/TCP-tuning/linux.html
[23:01] <Daskreech> Seveas: the device is but the stack buffers
[23:01] <AlZIR> cyborgsmurf:just wondering
[23:01] <jrib>  MJ94 yep
[23:01] <Daskreech> Does anyone know anything about ms-sys ?
[23:01] <|Twilo|> hello, I use ubuntu JeOS with lxde-core. how can I change the keyboard layout with the keyboard layout switcher applet in the task bar or is there another way to set the keyboard layout in the gui?
[23:02] <KE1HA> pietime:  and the ubuntu way: http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/10/how-to-increase-internet-speed-in-ubuntu
[23:02] <jrib> Daskreech: you should probably be more specific
[23:03] <netsavy006> Hi everybody.
[23:03] <netsavy006> Are we allowed to use the IRC similar to a support forum to get help?
[23:03] <KE1HA> Gulah:  Is this problem after you've installed Ubuntu, or during installation, have you ever been able to log into the desktop or has this just strted happening?
[23:03] <soreau> ! ask | netsavy006
[23:04] <jrib> netsavy006: that's all you're allowed to do in this channel: ask (and answer if you can) support questions
[23:04] <Seveas> netsavy006, you can ask questions in here. You might even get an answer if you're lucky! :)
[23:04] <netsavy006> Ok.  I have a printer installed on my PC.
[23:04] <jrib> netsavy006: one line, please
[23:04] <netsavy006> HP all in one 4235 printer.
[23:04] <MJ94> !anyone | Daskreech
[23:04] <netsavy006> deskjet
[23:04] <netsavy006> oh I'm sorrry.
[23:04] <Gulah> KE1HA: I-ve used ubuntu, but from time to time I had to reinstall the grub2
[23:05] <netsavy006> Anyway, I installed the printer and my brother's computer is a vista.  The printer is connected to my brothers vista computer.  When I try to print a test page, it asked for authentication.
[23:05] <AlZIR> KE1HA: thanks for that link     just what I was trying to find :)
[23:05] <Daskreech> ms-sys has a set of switches. one set writes a MBR and takes a whole device as an argument another set writes to the partition table and takes an individual partition device as the argument. Would the second grouping be writing only boot information into the partitions or will it destroy the old partition table and require me to recover the files that were there?
[23:06] <MJ94> jrib: What does # Copy the “efi” folder from the rEFIt distribution to the root level of your Mac OS X volume. mean?
[23:06] <KE1HA> Gulah:  If you suspect your having trouble with Gub2 config, boot into a LivCE and in a terminal console [ sudo update-grub2 ]
[23:06] <netsavy006> Now my problem is when I was on Windows 7, I never needed authentication.  I just converted over to Linux about 2 - 3 hours a go so I hope you can help me with this.  I don't understand what the authentication is as we never needed to use passwords before so what do I do now?
[23:06] <jrib> MJ94: do you know what they mean by "the efi folder from the refit distribution"?
[23:06] <TiK> linux and windows have nothing to do with each other
[23:06] <tensorpudding> MJ94: what is the context for this?
[23:06] <TiK> and installing ubuntu will not affect your windows 7 machine
[23:07] <jrib> tensorpudding: he's installing refit
[23:07] <Gulah> KE1HA: I'm in a live cd and I've done that
[23:07] <Seveas> netsavy006, you need to use a user/pass that work on the vista machine. When a printer is shared over SMB (the windows protocol), you need to authenticate.
[23:07] <netsavy006> I understand that, but I just overrote my windows 7 with Ubuntu so I'm very new to using Linux at all.
[23:07] <Oer> netsavy006, it is a windows issue, ask your brother what name/pass you need ?
[23:07] <TiK> ooh I misunderstood
[23:07] <MJ94> jrib: I moves efit to the desktop. Now I mv Desktop/efit /?
[23:07] <arturo393> hola
[23:07] <KE1HA> Gulah:  what's the make / model of your PC ?
[23:07] <netsavy006> He doesn't use a password when printing and when I had windows I didn't need a password to print.
[23:07] <MJ94> !es arturo393
[23:07] <MJ94> !es | arturo393
[23:07] <arturo393> hi
[23:07] <Confucius> Can you uninstall Ubuntu without removing the grub 2 loader if they are both on /dev/sdx?
[23:07] <MJ94> ah
[23:08] <netsavy006> I have a dell computer.
[23:08] <netsavy006> dell demension e521
[23:08] <MJ94> !ask arturo393
[23:08] <jrib> MJ94: you copy the "efi" directory to /, the top of your filesystem
[23:08] <Daskreech> netsavy006: Welcome to Linux :)
[23:08] <MJ94> jrib: How?
[23:08] <netsavy006> Thanks.  I'm hoping I can get the hang of this so I can do what I'd like with it.
[23:08] <Daskreech> Confucius: in theory yes
[23:08] <paul__64> Hi, I am new to Linux and have installed ubuntu alongside vista as a dual boot system
[23:08] <jrib> MJ94: same way you copy any folder...
[23:08] <netsavy006> but I will need to be able to print form my pc.
[23:08] <jrib> MJ94: use finder
[23:08] <|Twilo|> can nobody help me?
[23:09] <Gulah> acer aspire 1694WLMi
[23:09] <Seveas> netsavy006, but he does use a password to log in right? You need that one.
[23:09] <jrib> !helpme | |Twilo|
[23:09] <paul__64> I want to listen to my many music files that I have in my WMP while using and learning Linux
[23:09] <netsavy006> He doesn't use a password to log on.
[23:09] <Gulah> KE1HA: acer aspire 1694WLMi
[23:09] <KE1HA> Gulah:  thank you, hold on one.
[23:09] <netsavy006> He just has his login.
[23:09] <jrib> paul__64: the music is on your windows partition you mean?
[23:09] <netsavy006> It just says welcome when he logs on to his computer.
[23:10] <netsavy006> We never used passwords to log into windows.
[23:10] <netsavy006> Do I just put my brother's name w/o a password?
[23:10] <voxcroix> zzz..
[23:10] <Daskreech> netsavy006: Did you have passwords though?
[23:10] <MJ94> jrib: I'm confused as to *where* to move it.
[23:10] <netsavy006> no.
[23:10] <paul__64> How do I access my Vista music files from ubuntu and import them to rhythmbox
[23:10] <jrib> MJ94: to /.  The very top of your filesystem
[23:10] <Daskreech> paul__64: mount the Windows Drive
[23:11] <WJW> Heh, heh.  He said "mount".
[23:11] <paul__64> tried following those directions
[23:11] <AlZIR> paul__64: maybe mont it in ubuntu
[23:11] <Dimitrova> yes, he said mount
[23:11] <AlZIR> paul__64: maybe mou*nt it in ubuntu
[23:11] <paul__64> what exactly do i do
[23:11] <TheRampantFurry> ugh
[23:12] <Daskreech> paul__64: if you open computer  from places you should be able to simply click and see your files
[23:12] <Oer> paul__64, i can't play wmv , long time issue, protected with drm
[23:12] <paul__64> cd/monut/win?
[23:12] <paul__64> mount
[23:12] <netsavy006> What am I suppose to do?
[23:12] <TheRampantFurry> are there any photoshop progams that work on ubtuntu? (gimp is not a photoshop program, it is a crock of ****)
[23:12] <Daskreech> Oer: install Windows
[23:12] <jrib> !who | netsavy006
[23:12] <arturo393> when i log in , ubuntu ask me the root password in order to use the wifi , how can ir remove this ??
[23:12] <|Twilo|> jrib:  i ask this question since this morning
[23:13] <netsavy006> I wasn't talking to a specific person as I don't remember who it was I was communicating with.
[23:13] <WJW> arturo393, are you sure it's not asking for _your_ password?
[23:13] <jrib> |Twilo|: take two minutes to think about that
[23:13] <Oer> netsavy006, ask in #windows i don't think we have the solution if the printer is hooked on a windows machine.
[23:13] <paul__64> daskreech, what do you mean open computer from places
[23:13] <netsavy006> I will try.
[23:13] <arturo393> WJW: not sure
[23:14] <jrib> |Twilo|: for one, I have no clue what your question is
[23:14] <corax2> TheRampantFurry: GIMP is excellent if you have adaptive skills to change the way you edit photos...from the Photoshop-way to the GIMP-way. If you can't you can still install Photoshop on Ubuntu via "wine".
[23:14] <TheRampantFurry> I am using wine but it wont install it
[23:14] <AlZIR> paul__64: under the places menu  then removable drives    whats listed there?
[23:14] <TheRampantFurry> and gimp just plain sucks
[23:14] <WJW> paul__64, daskreech means you go to the Places menu on the upper left of your screen.
[23:14] <gary_inNYC> I switched the video output in smplayer to sdl and lost all keyboard controls to the player itself.  is this normal?
[23:14] <jrib> |Twilo|: more importantly, this is apparently not filled with lxde-knowledgeable folks :)  Try an lxde channel.  You can always use setxkbmap in the command line too
[23:14] <netsavy006> Also maybe this might be more simpler, how can I safely update my ati graphics card.  Ubuntu gave me the option to activate a driver and after doing that and rebooting I couldn't get into my Ubuntu and I had to reinstall it and I don't want to do that again.
[23:15] <arturo393> WJW: it really does not matter , i just do not want to write the password
[23:15] <paul__64> been there no listing "removable drives"
[23:15] <farkit> I can't get tv-out to work with Ubuntu karmic koala. I've been googling answers all day, editing my xorg.conf, restarting x, trying other things, to no avail. I'm ready to go back to windows.
[23:15] <corax2> TheRampantFurry: work I've done in Photoshop, I have easily done in GIMP ... so I'm guessing we're not talking about problems with the software.  However I've tested Photoshop 7 with wine, that should work fine.
[23:15] <AlZIR> paul__64: do you know how to use pastebin.org?
[23:16] <farkit> nvidia geforce 7100 gs is my video card
[23:16] <TheRampantFurry> ok
[23:16] <netsavy006> I can't get to #windows because I'm redirected to ##windows-please-register with this message:  The topic for ##windows-please-register is: You have been redirected here because your nick is not registered or you are using webchat. Please register your nick - or use a client to connect. If you can't use a client, please message a ##Windows staff member for an exemption.
[23:16] <paul__64> Alzir, no I don't
[23:16] <KE1HA> Gulah:  Im sorry to say, there's many problems being reported on Acer Aspire machines. There issues with Graphics and Lan cards, the best I could don on that box is suggest a link, but no guarantee's on it working for you.
[23:16] <farkit> I have version 185 of nvidia driver installed
[23:16] <|Twilo|> jrib: setxkbmap is for an windows user unsuitable ;-) i tried this in these channels: lxde, lubuntu and ubuntu-de
[23:16] <paul__64> alzir, I am just learning linux
[23:16] <WJW> arturo393, not sure, because my system uses wifi all the time and it does not ask for a pw.
[23:17] <AlZIR> paul__64: sure np
[23:17] <Gulah> KE1HA: link me up pls
[23:17] <KE1HA> Gulah:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1463294
[23:17] <Oer> arturo393, remove the password from your keyring, so it won't ask for it. the wireless connection WPA key is also stored in it. the security risk is a little higher.
[23:17] <threeseas> upgraded to 10.04 but lost sound in firefox... how do I get it back?
[23:17] <MJ94> jrib: mv Desktop/efi/ /.
[23:17] <MJ94> mv: rename Desktop/efi/ to /./efi/: Permission denied
[23:17] <MJ94> Sudo is needed?
[23:17] <farkit> tv-out help please.. anyone?
[23:17] <KE1HA> Gulah:  There's 11 pages covering the subject.
[23:17] <jrib> |Twilo|: why don't you setup a key combination to switch layouts?
[23:17] <Daskreech> netsavy006: ha ha Ok I can teach you a trick if you like
[23:17] <renato> from brazil
[23:17] <corax2> TheRampantFurry: (note: GIMP installation in Ubuntu 10.04, doesn't automatically include _all_ packages... there are some extra ones you might wanna include in your installation...many of the extra plugins you can't get for GIMP is what makes it powerful...without them, not so much)
[23:17] <jrib> MJ94: why aren't you just using the GUI if you are more comfortable with that?
[23:18] <netsavy006> Sure Daskreech.  Please teach me.  I'm willing to learn.
[23:18] <paul__64> All I want to do is import my media files from my vista OS It can't be that hard right, afterall everyone tells me linux is easy
[23:18] <arturo393> Oer: what is the keyring ??
[23:18] <jrib> yay sarcasm
[23:18] <MJ94> jrib: In regards to this, idk how.
[23:18] <TheRampantFurry> I tried installing another program just as good as photoshop but it isnt working
[23:18] <corax2> TheRampantFurry: *sorry ..meant .."can get for GIMP.."
[23:18] <jrib> because now everyone will rush to help you
[23:18] <Oer> arturo393, the keyring is the pocket for passwords
[23:18] <Oer> !keyring
[23:18] <MJ94> I'm new to os x, jrib
[23:18] <jrib> MJ94: cp -r whatever_it_is/efi /
[23:19] <JK3MP> Need help, running live CD trying to edit xorg.conf after installing nvidia driver boots to black screen in both normal and recovery boot.
[23:19] <corax2> TheRampantFurry: which program was that ? (and remember when you chat...to indicate who you are chatting with)
[23:19] <paul__64> can anyone help me please?
[23:19] <Daskreech> netsavy006: install a programm called irssi
[23:19] <Dimitrova> |paul__64| did you mean import = copy? means your music data in vista in ubuntu drive?
[23:19] <jrib> !helpme > paul__64
[23:19] <MJ94> cp Desktop/efi / then?
[23:19] <TheRampantFurry> corax2: Paint shop pro
[23:19] <Daskreech> netsavy006: you can open a terminal and run this command
[23:19] <Daskreech>  sudo apt-get install irssi
[23:19] <corax2> paul__64: when you say import...what do you mean ?
[23:19] <KE1HA> paul__64:  how do you mean import, from a live session, or back them up and restore in Ubuntu
[23:20] <AlZIR> paul__64: open a console    type    "mount -l " look for type ntfs
[23:20] <TheRampantFurry> I am trying to run it on wine but it is not working.
[23:20] <MJ94> jrib: cp Desktop/efi/ /
[23:20] <MJ94> cp: Desktop/efi/ is a directory (not copied).
[23:20] <AlZIR> paul__64: open a console    type    "mount -l " look for "   type ntfs "
[23:20] <jrib> MJ94: not what I said
[23:20] <corax2> TheRampantFurry: ah yes...a classic... not worth it in Linux...stick with GIMP :-)
[23:20] <netsavy006> Ok I have IRssi open.;
[23:20] <ronchaine> Is there a package to install opengl 3 dev files, or do I need to download headers and stuff straight from opengl website?
[23:21] <|Twilo|> jrib: this is a vmware for present a software. this vmware busually used from managers - managers and key combination? :-)
[23:21] <KE1HA> TheRampantFurry:  your best asking in #winehq
[23:21] <MJ94> jrib: please repeat it?
[23:21] <jrib> MJ94: just scroll up, you forgot the "-r"
[23:21] <Daskreech> Does anyone know if the partition specific option in ms-sys overwrite only boot information or if they will redo the entire partition table?
[23:22] <corax2> TheRampantFurry: (a lot of library .DLL files is needed for regular installation of software like Paint Shop Pro ...they are not included in Wine, as they are part of Microsoft property ...if you run the program from the console, you can see which .DLL files it requires...and _maybe_ by installing them, get it to work)
[23:22] <paul__64> dimitrova, yes I mean copy my music files from vista into ubuntu
[23:23] <MJ94> jrib: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/BRwm4KS1
[23:23] <netsavy006> Using IRSSI still took me to ##windows-please-register
[23:23] <MJ94> !register | netsavy006
[23:24] <AlZIR> paul__64: if you go here    http://ubuntu.pastebin.com   I cant start to help
[23:24] <AlZIR> paul__64: if you go here    http://ubuntu.pastebin.com   I can start to help  opps
[23:24] <Jordan_U> Daskreech: No, it will not overwrite the partition table. What exactly are you trying to do with ms-sys?
[23:24] <voxcroix> ...
[23:25] <yardo> someone had a splash screen question?
[23:25] <billy> Daskreech: are you trying to restore boot code? sorry if i missed earlier posts
[23:25] <MJ94> jrib: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/BRwm4KS1
[23:25] <corax2> does anyone know a trick to hide specified user-logins from the GDM window in Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[23:25] <yardo> ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-11478.html    to change splash screen
[23:26] <paul__64> Alzir, thank you I am going to that link now
[23:26] <jrib> MJ94: see second line
[23:26] <corax2> yardo: was that for me ?
[23:26] <yardo> who ever had a splash screen question
[23:26] <Daskreech> Jordan_U: ah and I've just also found out it won't write to an NTFS drive :(
[23:27] <corax2> yardo: ah ok...sorry ... I was referring to GDM...not the splash.
[23:27] <Oer> yardo ubuntu 10.04 use playmouth
[23:27] <paul__64> Alzir, I am at that website what now?
[23:27] <trism> corax2: gdm will not show users with uid < 1000 (by default)
[23:27] <gary_inNYC> can someone help me stop smplayer from hijacking my system?  I switched the video output to sdl and started playing a video.  It's playing really smooth, but I have no way of stopping it.
[23:27] <paul__64> I am confused
[23:27] <KE1HA> paul__64:  although this is fer a dead or damaged WinDoze system, should work for you needs I think: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/use-ubuntu-live-cd-to-backup-files-from-your-dead-windows-computer/
[23:27] <Daskreech> billy: I am
[23:27] <Jordan_U> Daskreech: What are you trying to do?
[23:27] <gary_inNYC> keyboard shortcuts aren't working, and the gui buttons aren't showing up in smplayer
[23:28] <Oer> http://packages.ubuntu.com/nl/lucid/plymouth-x11
[23:28] <Daskreech> Jordan_U: My Uncle's laptop with Vista cannot boot anymore the boot record seems to be gone. I restored the MBR
[23:28] <AlZIR> paul__64: try here    http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/bGnw4F9e
[23:28] <hiexpo> killall smplayer
[23:28] <corax2> trism: yes...that one I figured ... however I don't want to mess with the ID-system ... I would like to conform to the id-numbering...and still select _some_ of the logins as invisible...is that possible ?
[23:28] <Daskreech> but the parition table Boot record is missing as well so I'm trying to solve that
[23:28] <MJ94> jrib: -bash: cd: /efi/refit: No such file or directory
[23:28] <MJ94> Open Terminal and enter the following commands:
[23:28] <MJ94> cd /efi/refit
[23:28] <MJ94> ./enable.sh
[23:28] <FloodBot3> MJ94: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:28] <billy> Daskreech: you can do that with a recovery console by booting directly from the install cd - is this helpful?
[23:28] <jrib> MJ94: what was the second line of your pastebin?
[23:29] <Daskreech> billy: He's lost his DVD
[23:29] <trism> corax2: as far as I know, no, not with gdm anyway
[23:29] <gary_inNYC> hiexpo: how can i do that? the video won't stop, it's in fullscreen and not responding to keystrokes or mouse movements
[23:29] <MJ94> I sudo'd and redid it, jrib.
[23:29] <Daskreech> billy: I'm trying to think of anyone who has a Vista DVD that's within 6 miles of me
[23:29] <Jordan_U> Daskreech: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[23:30] <corax2> trism: damn ... it would had been _soooo_ nice with a gdm-hidden.conf files or somethin' ... and just list the ID numbers, for users that shouldn't appear.
[23:30] <hiexpo> gary_inNYC,  how are you talking to me
[23:30] <Oer> Daskreech, bootdisc.com ?
[23:30] <jrib> MJ94: for some reason you put a '.' at the end of your command?
[23:30] <gary_inNYC> hiexpo: is there a shortcut key to force kill a current running app?
[23:30] <trism> corax2: you could hide all the names, but I have not found any configuration for individual names
[23:30] <hiexpo> gary_inNYC,  not that i am aware of
[23:30] <MJ94> jrib: cp -r  Desktop/efi/ /
[23:30] <MJ94> cp: Desktop/efi/: No such file or directory
[23:30] <MJ94> It's there...
[23:31] <jrib> MJ94: guess not :)  Give the absolute path if you're not suer
[23:31] <hiexpo> gary_inNYC,  just power down than
[23:31] <MJ94> I see it, jrib.
[23:31] <Daskreech> Oer: Not a ral site
[23:31] <Oer> Daskreech, it was a long time .. http://bootdisk.com sorry for disc
[23:31] <jrib> MJ94: you're giving a relative path
[23:31] <corax2> trism: I know the gconf-editor thing...where the whole user list is removed...and the regular login box appears ... well... I hope that its a feature for future development :-)
[23:32] <MJ94> What path should I give, jrib?
[23:32] <paul__64> Alzir I am at pastebin.com
[23:32] <jrib> MJ94: the correct one...
[23:32] <billy> Daskreech: there is a freeware app that restores mbr code but its a windows app - im trying to find it - only used it the other day
[23:32] <gary_inNYC> hiexpo: i'm using my desktop since my laptop was taken over by smplayer XD
[23:32] <MJ94> jrib: Desktop...
[23:32] <Daskreech> Oer: thanks
[23:32] <jrib> MJ94: start with / and keep going if you aren't sure
[23:32] <Daskreech> billy: EasyBCD
[23:33] <AlZIR> paul__64: try here    http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/D7xFaDk6
[23:33] <hiexpo> gary_inNYC,  just turn it off and reboot than no harm
[23:33] <Daskreech> but that requires me to boot into windows so that I can click the button to repair the bootloader ... so I can boot into windows
[23:33] <MJ94> jrib: The efi folder is on my desktop....
[23:33] <jrib> MJ94: I'm not contesting that.  However, my guess is Desktop is not your desktop because Desktop means Desktop wherever I am now
[23:34] <MJ94> jrib: So, what do I put?
[23:34] <KE1HA> MJ94:  $HOME/Desktop/efi
[23:34] <jrib> MJ94: start with / and keep going if you aren't sure
[23:34] <jrib> KE1HA: note he's on os x, not sure of the directory structure
[23:34] <Daskreech> jrib: what?
[23:34] <_eXeCuTeR> how can i run an ELF on ubuntu? I compiled an assembly file and is now an ELF. I tried running it this way: ./elf but it didn't work.
[23:34] <jrib> Daskreech: what what?
[23:34] <Daskreech> desktop means whereever I am now?
[23:34] <KE1HA> Ahh, I think $HOME is valid in os X will go looky.
[23:34] <Daskreech> KE1HA: it is
[23:35] <farce_> After setting up my webserver (locally) and doing an apt-get instlal phpmyadmin xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/phpmyadmin gives me nothing. Any idea why? I've restarted apache already
[23:35] <billy> Daskreech: thats a boot manager i think
[23:35] <jrib> Daskreech: Desktop is a relative path
[23:35] <hiexpo> sup KE1HA
[23:35] <jrib> Daskreech: as opposed to ~/Desktop or whatever
[23:35] <Daskreech> billy: Ah alright please letme know then :)
[23:35] <Daskreech> jrib: Ok understood
[23:35] <hiexpo> hello IdleOne
[23:35] <MJ94> jrib: cp: /Users/Michael/Desktop/efi/: unable to copy extended attributes to /: Is a directory
[23:35] <Daskreech> Oer: I'm not sure what's at Bootdisk.com but it seems to top out at Windows XP
[23:36] <KE1HA> hiexpo:  hello. jrib checking the os x basic command line, looks the same.
[23:36] <hiexpo> it is
[23:36] <MJ94> cp: /Users/Michael/Desktop/efi/: unable to copy extended attributes to /: Is a directory
[23:36] <yrb> Hey guys the "Certified Hardware" link off the server technical resources page is giving a page not found
[23:37] <paul__64> alzir, I am trying tot alk to you on pastebin
[23:37] <Jordan_U> Daskreech: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[23:37] <Daskreech> Jordan_U: reading that. trying to figure out if it's pertinent
[23:37] <KE1HA> yrb:  check it's not offline: [ http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/# \
[23:37] <Daskreech> Jordan_U: it's replacing the main bootsector with a backup? where is the backup from?
[23:37] <MJ94> jrib: What do I do...?
[23:38] <Daskreech> MJ94: that's with a -r ?
[23:38] <MJ94> mhm
[23:38] <MJ94>  sudo cp -r  $HOME/Desktop/efi/ /
[23:38] <MJ94> Password:
[23:38] <MJ94> cp: /Users/Michael/Desktop/efi/: unable to copy extended attributes to /: Is a directory
[23:38] <yrb> KE1HA: It isn't down the link just seems to be wrong as it is linking to "http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/list/?category=Server"
[23:38] <KE1HA> yrb:  http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/
[23:38] <Omen_20> Hi, I have Ubuntu installed to a partition mounted at /  if I want to install Jolicloud 1.0 to another partition, where do I mount it?
[23:39] <Daskreech> MJ94: oh wait this is a mac. Did you ask in ##apple ?
[23:39] <MJ94> No, why?
[23:39] <KE1HA> yrb:  IBM, Sun, HP are all work'en
[23:39] <Jordan_U> Daskreech: From when windows was initially installed.
[23:39] <Daskreech> Jordan_U: am I supplying a backup for this to work?
[23:39] <MJ94> I just wanna dual boot Ubuntu! :((
[23:39] <Daskreech> Jordan_U: Oh. Hmm ok lets see if i can install testdisk
[23:39] <Jordan_U> Daskreech: No.
[23:40] <Daskreech> MJ94: oooh :-) OK you installed refit ?
[23:40] <yrb> KE1HA: :) I know, just thought I would notify someone! Any recommendations for server vendors?
[23:40] <KE1HA> yrb:  Negative, no-discuss commercial stuff here :-) although I ahve personal prefrences, you can PM is ya want too.
[23:41] <MJ94> Daskreech: I'm trying.
[23:41] <MJ94> It's not working
[23:41] <billy> Daskreech: found it - its called mbrfix - good luck
[23:41] <Daskreech> MJ94: ah it was much easier when I tried it then
[23:42] <Daskreech> billy: ah. does that require me to hav a copy of the Vista bootloader handy ?
[23:42] <billy> Daskreech: found it - its called mbrfix
[23:42] <billy> Daskreech: no but windows must be bootable - is that the problem?
[23:43] <Daskreech> billy: Yep
[23:43] <Daskreech> :-)
[23:43] <Daskreech> let me try testdisk as per Jordan_U's suggestion
[23:43] <MJ94> What can I do? I just want refit...
[23:44] <Tonisius> How do I find out what version of ubuntu I have installed, besides the /etc/issues file
[23:44] <Tonisius> there was a command, and I can't remember it
[23:44] <Daskreech> MJ94: hop into ##apple and get recommendations
[23:44] <Daskreech> Tonisius: lsb_release -a ?
[23:44] <Tonisius> lsb. awesome
[23:44] <Tonisius> thanks
[23:45] <billy> Daskreech: i dont suppose hed have a dos bootable floppy ? there has to be a source on the net somewhere
[23:46] <Mimo> could some one tell me why i have no right (as a normal user) to the folder var/www (i installed lamp)
[23:46] <Daskreech> billy: I have a blank CD that's close enough
[23:46] <jrib> !permissions > Mimo
[23:46] <Subpoena> i think i might be having hardware issues, but im not sure, what would cause slow startups and even the BIOS menu to perform incredibly slowly?
[23:46] <analyser> does anyone know how can I play some sound at the same time on headphones and on the loud speaker?
[23:47] <aeon-ltd> Mimo: cos it belongs to root
[23:47] <Daskreech> analyser: Pulseaudio
[23:47] <Oer> Subpoena, any usb device ?
[23:47] <Subpoena> nothing at all, i even unplugged the HDD
[23:47] <billy> Daskreech: no - sorry - there are tools and stuff that can be run under ms-dos but ...
[23:47] <Daskreech> billy: to restore Vista?
[23:47] <Subpoena> absolute bare bones and the problem persists
[23:48] <Mimo> ok roger i know it's roots.. but that doesn't make sence for me.. i have to take control it's my webserver right?
[23:48] <Oer> Subpoena, run memtest86
[23:48] <Mimo> and i know i can change it by chmod
[23:48] <billy> Daskreech: does vista have a different mbr to 2k-xp?
[23:48] <Daskreech> Yes
[23:48] <Daskreech> and Windows 7 has a very different one as well
[23:49] <Ologn> When people on Lucid Lynx do
[23:49] <Oer> billy no
[23:49] <Ologn> ps axu|grep dbus-daemon...system|grep -v grep|awk '{print $1}'
[23:49] <billy> Daskreech: that really messes thing up - sorry to have distracted you
[23:49] <Ologn> I wonder what kind of answer they get
[23:49] <Subpoena> Oer: um... is there a way to make a memtest CD on a mac?
[23:49] <Subpoena> its my only current running machine
[23:49] <Ologn> I get 102, the UID of messagebus...but messagebus is in my /etc/passwd...I wonder if this is just me
[23:49] <Oer> Subpoena, any ubuntu distro has it
[23:50] <Oer> it is an option in the installer, or in grub
[23:50] <rudenstam> how would I go about having ubuntu restore the default my.cnf for mysql ?
[23:50] <Ologn> What do Lucid Lynx users here get when they do
[23:50] <Ologn> ps axu|grep dbus-daemon...system|grep -v grep|awk '{print $1}'
[23:50] <Subpoena> gotcha, on it
[23:50] <Subpoena> thanks
[23:50] <Daskreech> billy: and they have some copyright on it that means that you can only make use of it if you got it from microsoft which means you have to buy the OS just to fix someone else's computer legally
[23:51] <KE1HA> billy:  this is off-topic, but short answer is yes, they have a different MBR signature but can be made to work both ways.
[23:51] <Mimo> so is it save (or other words the linux way)  to chmod the var/www folder for my (not su) user
[23:52] <billy> KE1HA: tell Daskreech - i just tried to help
[23:53] <KE1HA> :-) now worries
[23:53] <Daskreech> KE1HA: WIndows 8 seems as if it will have a new one again
[23:54] <KE1HA> Mimo:  discussion on Apache2/var/www file permissions: http://serverfault.com/questions/6895/whats-the-best-way-of-handling-permissions-for-apache2s-user-www-data-in-var-w
[23:54] <Mimo> wow thanks (find it hard to find the correct info)
[23:54] <Mimo> sorry bout my google skills
[23:54] <Daskreech> MJ94: How's it going ?
[23:54] <KE1HA> Daskreech:  :-) tnx, but I really have no real interest in WinDoze, other that converting them to Ubuntu machines :-)
[23:55] <MJ94> Daskreech: horribly
[23:55] <MJ94> I just want Ubuntu :((
[23:55] <Daskreech> Mimo: http://lmyit.com/let-me-try-google
[23:55] <Daskreech> KE1HA: I saw one the other day and marvelled at it
[23:55] <Mimo> haha
[23:55] <KE1HA> MJ94:  it's to get Ubuntu, just go here :-) http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.1/
[23:57] <Daskreech> MJ94: What happens when you boot the refit DC?
[23:57] <MJ94> Nope. I wanna dualboot on my mac.I guess I need rEFIT, KE1HA.
[23:57] <MJ94> Daskreech: DC?
[23:57] <KE1HA> MJ94:  not certain, but I think that's agains their Lic Policy's or so I've been told.
[23:58] <KE1HA> againt*
[23:58] <Daskreech> CD
[23:58] <MJ94> KE1HA: ?
[23:58] <KE1HA> NVM :-) I can't spell nor type today
[23:58] <MJ94> Daskreech: CD?
[23:58] <MJ94> oh
[23:58] <MJ94> cd
[23:58] <MJ94> heh
[23:58] <FloodBot3> MJ94: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <Maletor> Can anybody help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1557847
[23:59] <MJ94> !details | Maletor
[23:59] <Raymond> Hi
[23:59] <Raymond> Can someone help me on something?
[23:59] <Maletor> MJ94: what do you think is in that link? Goatse?
[23:59] <MJ94> !welcome | Raymond
[23:59] <Maletor> !welcome | MJ94
[23:59] <Daskreech> Maletor: Yes actually
[23:59] <Daskreech> !someone | Raymond