| shadeslayer | ScottK: KMymoney wont be uploaded till squeeze is out, and will be uploaded only to sid | 00:29 |
|---|---|---|
| shadeslayer | so we either wait or package our own version | 00:30 |
| claydoh | shadeslayer: I have kmm in my ppa, but somehow it didn't detect aqbanking so those outside of US can't do online banking with my 4.5 pkg :( | 00:52 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 00:52 |
| shadeslayer | claydoh: kmm team is pushing for a exception in debian | 00:52 |
| claydoh | plus my pkg skillz are almost nil, but I could work on one with more study and training :) | 00:52 |
| shadeslayer | claydoh: http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist?action=details;package=kmymoney << my package | 00:53 |
| claydoh | I just noticed that, trying to see what Debian pkg was available :) | 00:54 |
| shadeslayer | ;) | 00:55 |
| shadeslayer | claydoh: since the package had no ubuntu changes, i proceded the old debian->ubuntu way | 00:56 |
| shadeslayer | im off for a bit... will be back in a hour with koffice package hopefully | 00:57 |
| claydoh | shadeslayer:and that process I don't understand fully :) | 00:57 |
| shadeslayer | claydoh: hehe :P | 00:57 |
| shadeslayer | me neither... but i usually ask people @ debian-qt-kde | 00:57 |
| shadeslayer | on OFTC ;) | 00:57 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| shadeslayer | Riddell: new koffice packages uploading to https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental | 04:10 |
| === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero | ||
| === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero | ||
| === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin | ||
| === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin | ||
| * jussi waves to raddy | 08:53 | |
| raddy | Hello Everybody | 08:53 |
| raddy | I am using KDE 4.5 pack ported packages in Lynx | 08:54 |
| jussi | raddy: it is sunday morning though, so there may be some delay in getting an answer | 08:54 |
| raddy | jussi: What your time zone? | 08:54 |
| jussi | raddy: gmt+2 | 08:54 |
| raddy | ohh ok | 08:55 |
| jussi | ie. most of europe | 08:55 |
| jussi | raddy: please do ask your question though | 08:58 |
| raddy | ok, fine | 08:59 |
| raddy | I am using KDE 4.5 back-ported packages in Lucid Lynx/ | 08:59 |
| raddy | I found that i am not able to use Voice and Video capability in Kopete on Jabber protocol. | 09:00 |
| raddy | The feature is added in 4.4 version of KDE it self, and the feature appears to be available in Maverick. | 09:01 |
| raddy | After lot of research, i came to the conclusion that the Back-ported packages may not have compiled with Jabber Voice and Video support. | 09:02 |
| raddy | Can anybody cross-check my findings? | 09:02 |
| raddy | Anybody there? | 09:20 |
| valorie | raddy, I think most of the europeans are just getting up | 09:26 |
| valorie | and the Americans are in bed | 09:26 |
| shadeslayer | oic | 09:27 |
| valorie | except shadeslayer | 09:27 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 09:27 |
| valorie | ;-) | 09:27 |
| * shadeslayer has +5.30 time zone | 09:28 | |
| shadeslayer | so.. | 09:28 |
| valorie | India? | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | raddy: bug 509772 | 09:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 509772 in kdenetwork (Ubuntu) "Build Kopete with Google Talk voice call support" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/509772 | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: yeah :) | 09:28 |
| valorie | cool! | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | ... and humid..... | 09:29 |
| shadeslayer | raddy: so, in lucid we do not build with google call support | 09:30 |
| shadeslayer | BUT | 09:30 |
| shadeslayer | raddy: if you have chrome/firefox/iceweasel use : http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/use-linux-now-you-can-video-chat-too.html | 09:30 |
| shadeslayer | we still dont have video support in kopete.... but ^ does the trick nicely | 09:31 |
| raddy | shadeslayer: But someone has already built a Kopete version with Voice and Video support. | 09:31 |
| shadeslayer | raddy: yes in maverick we have voice support | 09:31 |
| shadeslayer | video support.... i have no idea if google allows that | 09:31 |
| shadeslayer | it should be possible, but maybe google blocks other clients or such... no idea | 09:32 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: oh, 3rd party documention... I like that ^^ | 09:32 |
| raddy | shadeslayer: Google allows that. Empathy already supports that with the help of telepathy. | 09:33 |
| raddy | why this link not working, https://launchpad.net/~pali.rohar/+archive/ppa | 09:33 |
| raddy | Can anybody point me to the correct location? | 09:33 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: quick question, i need to patch kopete such that when started it prompts for installation of gcall binary | 09:33 |
| * shadeslayer looks | 09:33 | |
| apachelogger | you know | 09:34 |
| apachelogger | I really think | 09:34 |
| apachelogger | it should only prompt | 09:34 |
| apachelogger | once the user configured a jabber account to talk.google.com | 09:34 |
| apachelogger | OR already has one | 09:34 |
| shadeslayer | raddy: https://edge.launchpad.net/~pali/+archive/pali | 09:34 |
| shadeslayer | but it has SVN version | 09:35 |
| apachelogger | and not generally assume that people can/want to use gcall | 09:35 |
| shadeslayer | so it _might_ have telepathy integration | 09:35 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: in either case just take a look at kdebase's konqueror flash patch | 09:35 |
| shadeslayer | alright | 09:35 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: if your free please upload koffice from my ppa | 09:37 |
| shadeslayer | https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental | 09:37 |
| raddy | Is there any plans to backport Maverick Kopete pages?? | 09:38 |
| raddy | packages? | 09:38 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 09:44 |
| shadeslayer | wth.. i cant pull-debian-source from experimental :S | 09:52 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I am afraid the connection here does not really qualify for uploads of that large a monster | 10:04 |
| raddy | Hello Everybody | 10:04 |
| raddy | Is it possible to install compiz-kde package in KDE 4.5x back port? | 10:05 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: :P | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | 53 MB is huge? :D | 10:21 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yus | 10:30 |
| shadeslayer | whats your upload speed? :P | 10:31 |
| raddy | Is it possible to install compiz-kde package in kde 4.5 back port? | 10:41 |
| raddy | It appears not possible. | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | raddy: if it appears not possible then it is possibly not possible | 10:43 |
| apachelogger | also I think we saw it the first time you asked | 10:43 |
| ofirk | apachelogger: hi :D | 10:45 |
| apachelogger | yo ofirk | 10:45 |
| ofirk | congratulations on the UbuntuOne KDE client :) | 10:45 |
| ofirk | it is looking very nice | 10:45 |
| ofirk | we (website team) are working on a section in the website which lists featured project | 10:50 |
| ofirk | apachelogger: we want to list this project | 10:51 |
| ofirk | I understand that you are looking after a new maintainer for the project ... | 10:51 |
| ofirk | but at the meantime could you open a category that will contain all UbuntuOne KDE posts so we can easily link to them? | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | ofirk: yeah, I would not list it there until someone is found | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | ofirk: a category where? | 10:51 |
| ofirk | apachelogger: in your blog | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | http://en.wordpress.com/tag/ubuntuone/ | 10:52 |
| apachelogger | oh that is global | 10:52 |
| ofirk | so it will function as a temporary project website | 10:52 |
| apachelogger | http://apachelog.wordpress.com/category/ubuntuone/ | 10:52 |
| ofirk | oh, great! | 10:53 |
| ofirk | apachelogger: thanks :) | 10:53 |
| ofirk | apachelogger: how did you make this graph? http://apachelog.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ubuntuone-kde-graph3.png | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | inkscapey | 10:57 |
| ofirk | thanks | 10:58 |
| raddy | So compiz kde not yet compiled against kde 4.5? | 11:13 |
| shadeslayer | is lex on a really really long holiday? :P | 12:14 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| === JontheEchidna changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu and KNR 10.04.1 released | Maverick Feature Freeze in Place | Kubuntu, making your PC friendly | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | ||
| apachelogger | http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/ubuntu-one-the-kde-way/#comment-377 | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | I wonder if I should even comment on that | 13:00 |
| Riddell | morning | 13:20 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: you wanted to talk about your project? | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | morning Riddell | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yes, the mail from gsoc team suggested that we talk a bit about it :) | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: anything worth noting about my evaluation? | 13:21 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: give me 15 mins to read over your blogs | 13:21 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: sure | 13:21 |
| * apachelogger is writing on another one right now about interesting bits on KCMs ;) | 13:22 | |
| Quintasan | \o/ | 13:32 |
| Riddell | ooh you made digitizor http://digitizor.com/2010/08/20/the-ubuntuone-kde-client-enters-alpha-installation-instruction/ | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | is that good? ^^ | 13:34 |
| shadeslayer | nice | 13:34 |
| Quintasan | hmmmmm | 13:34 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: so, were you pleased with your project? | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: pretty much, though I think we could have made it more interesting to the user and the press by doing the Akonadi integration | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | but the way we did it there is a good base to continue GUI implementations on (if I find a maintainer) | 13:49 |
| Riddell | how did you find out about the technical requirements? | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: mostly trial and error and looking at the code of the GNOME implemention | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | real documentation is sparse | 13:54 |
| Riddell | did you have much communication with the upstream developers? | 13:55 |
| Riddell | upstream probably the wrong word there. the canonical OLS team | 13:57 |
| Nightrose | [14:00:00] <apachelogger> http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/ubuntu-one-the-kde-way/#comment-377 | 13:59 |
| Nightrose | [14:00:09] <apachelogger> I wonder if I should even comment on that | 13:59 |
| Nightrose | ^ you can start by telling the clueless guy that google did also pay for an owncloud project | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: please upload koffice ... | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: not a whole lot, also since they have no mailing list I am afraid some information got lost in IRC logs | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | like apparently the responsible people of ubuntu-sso-client did not know about my Qt implementation until like a month ago or so | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: good idea, I think I will also end it there ... I do not really feel like defending Google or Canonical yet again... | 14:03 |
| Nightrose | yea | 14:04 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: how could upstream work better with community projects such as this? | 14:04 |
| Riddell | bad use of upstream again | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: btw, do you happen to know what came out of owncloud? I know of two implementions but both not really mature | 14:04 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: sandsmark completed it sucessfully and there are two SoK students still working on owncloud | 14:05 |
| Nightrose | for details you'll need to ask them | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I think mailing list && communication via that mailing list rather than internally would help a lot ... from my POV most of the things that are going on in ubuntuone seem totally opaque, especially if you are not following the code branches | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | I did not know that ubuntu-sso-client is getting real GUI implementations to eliminate the need of a web browser for the authentication process | 14:06 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: do you plan to come to UDS? it would be good to have a meeting about that kind of stuff with them | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I do, question is if I can :) | 14:07 |
| Riddell | they're going to announce opening of sponsorship requests in a few days | 14:10 |
| Riddell | I know what a d pointer is, what's a q pointer? | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: the other part | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | d goes from public to private | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | and q from private to public | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | here the private class calls statusChanged of the public class -> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntuone-client/gsoc/annotate/head:/src/libs/SyncDaemon.cpp#L76 | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | via the q ptr | 14:15 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: how do you search for a function in qtcreator? | 14:19 |
| shadeslayer | like in kdevelop theres quick search | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | one in the code? | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | or in the documentation? | 14:19 |
| shadeslayer | in the code | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | in the serch bar at the bottom | 14:20 |
| shadeslayer | but that just shows the files | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | press enter? | 14:20 |
| shadeslayer | say im searching for UrlResolver::orderedSearchItems() ... it doesnt come up with anuthihg | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | dude | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | click there | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | and a popup should come | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | listing super features for specific searches | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | m method() would find you method() | 14:21 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: should we upload this to universe? | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: if upstream agrees | 14:23 |
| Riddell | I think it would be nice, of course it might well break by natty but we can remove it in such case | 14:23 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: but presumably needs them to merge the merges first? | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, I patched the syncd downstream and in maverick the desktopcouch patch does not seem to be necessary since ubuntuone does not depend on desktopcouch anymore | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | would be good to have it merged though | 14:24 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: so we can just go ahead and ask for FFe and upload? | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | yep | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: wanna read a blog post about KCMs before publishing? | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: sure | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | although im not sure ill understand a thing :P | 14:25 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: was I any good as a mentor? | 14:27 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: can you commit your koffice 2.2.2 packaging to bzr | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: sure.. with UNRELEASED right? | 14:31 |
| Riddell | yes | 14:31 |
| Riddell | and, since I see it's lacking it, put in the vcs lines into debian/control | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | pushed | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | thatll have to go in in rev 44 | 14:34 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=44&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 44 | added KDEDIR/lib to the search path for jpeg/gif lib changed KDE to prefix in configure.in | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | heh :P | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: terrific, thanks for mentoring :) | 14:36 |
| Riddell | flattery will get your everywhere | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 14:36 |
| nigelb | this is one channel that can make me smile any time :) | 14:36 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: are you able to file the FFe and prepare the upload and subscribe appropriate people from canonical OLS to comment? | 14:37 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: are you in a mood to do the bluedevil MIRs and FFes today? | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | one bluedevil MIR coming right up | 14:37 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: did you run dh_install --list-missing on the koffice build? | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yeah.. i have a hook for that | 14:38 |
| * shadeslayer hunts for build log | 14:38 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: sure | 14:39 |
| shadeslayer | oh.. i built the dsc directly :/ | 14:39 |
| * apachelogger needs to polish the packaging a bit anyway ^^ | 14:39 | |
| shadeslayer | which means i have no build log | 14:39 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: hold on... ill get a build log | 14:39 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: well so long as you checked it | 14:39 |
| shadeslayer | i did... there were 4-5 false positives | 14:40 |
| shadeslayer | libkdeinit_foo.so's .... | 14:40 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: and nothing needing adding? | 14:40 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 14:40 |
| Riddell | good, that means they're keeping to the bug fix only rule :) | 14:40 |
| shadeslayer | seems so :) | 14:40 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: blog post looks ok... | 14:41 |
| Riddell | next question is do we package koffice-l10n or wait for debian to do it | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: koffice-l10n is one large package, is it not? | 14:42 |
| Riddell | yes | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I think we should package it then, unless Debian is going to do it | 14:43 |
| * apachelogger will love a translated KO in 10.10 | 14:43 | |
| Riddell | we should put 2.2.2 into backports as well | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: pingy | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: seprate MIR's for bluedevil and libbluedevil? | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | and why do we have 2 seprate packages for them :( | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | oh.. wait.. theyre seprately maintained on git | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | btw adjam found a way to make google voice and video work in gmail+rekonq | 14:51 |
| shadeslayer | with the new plugins released by google.. yet to ask him how he did it, but doesnt work here :( | 14:52 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yes | 14:53 |
| Riddell | is that plugin an entirely new NP-API plugin? | 14:53 |
| shadeslayer | idk... its on the gmail blog, you can download the deb | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | i guess yes, not entirely sure | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | guess what | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | rekonq crash with flash | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | hooray | 15:02 |
| shadeslayer | bug 622243 for bluedevil | 15:02 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/622243) | 15:02 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: from archives? | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | yus | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | tried trunk? | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | seems to work for me | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: video link | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | random vid on youtube | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: bug 622245 for libbluedevil | 15:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622245 in bluedevil (Ubuntu) "[MIR] bluedevil" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622245 | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | aha! it doesnt load here... | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF8ik8_UHjA&feature=featured | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | this is robert | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | seems to be a adblock issue | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | ok i have this nasty window with flash, but apart from that its all good | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://imgur.com/TpDC4 | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | i had to disable adblock, but it does work | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | adblock is pretty much foobar right now, with 2 pending merges i think | 15:08 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: pong | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | ah | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | canonical is getting credit for kubuntu foo again | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 15:13 |
| * apachelogger switches to pissed mode and munches cookies | 15:13 | |
| shadeslayer | hahahaha | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer | Failed to build on hooker (ia64) << | 15:14 |
| * apachelogger read that as hocker | 15:14 | |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 15:15 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: where do they get that? | 15:15 |
| nigelb | I can't believe they named that for a builder | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: golem | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: www.golem.de/1008/77026.html | 15:16 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: yeah :P | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/kcmodule-flower-power/ \o/ | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | whee | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | btw... we had a proposal on #ubuntu-youth yesterday | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | a mentorship program for the young'uns | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: also try running rekonq from konsole with gdb, im pretty sure itll work fine then :P | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | that is why drkonqi is here | 15:23 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: I sent a comment | 15:23 |
| shadeslayer | no like, with : gdb rekonq ... gdb> run | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | DrKonqi: hello | 15:23 |
| DrKonqi | apachelogger: hola :) | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | DrKonqi: bt | 15:23 |
| shadeslayer | lulz | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: takes a bit | 15:24 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: new host? :D | 15:24 |
| shadeslayer | or running from your machine ? | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | running gdb | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | :P | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | oh it crashed | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | oh daer | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: sweet | 15:26 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 15:26 |
| * apachelogger hugs Mamarok | 15:26 | |
| shadeslayer | how often does madison take snapshots of debian archives? | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | its 3 days behind from what i can see | 15:32 |
| sheytan | Hey, wanna see some news about the upcoming Kubuntu page? :D Here you are: http://www.webpagescreenshot.info/img/324456-8222010122657PM | 15:32 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: you are welcome :) | 15:33 |
| sheytan | and this is not a mockup anymore :) | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | sweetness | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: awesome.. just make the font color white everywhere | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | then theres a type : Find 'a' Community in your language | 15:34 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer where you mean? | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | *typo | 15:34 |
| sheytan | need to report to ofirk ;) | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: the text just above "Create a Community" | 15:34 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer i meant the white color... where? :) | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | its all blue.. make it white ;) | 15:35 |
| sheytan | this represents links. Links are always blue :) | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: http://imgur.com/Oq7jJ | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | they dont go with the rest of the page :( | 15:36 |
| sheytan | i think they do :) | 15:36 |
| sheytan | don't worry, they're good visable :) | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | just my 2 cents ;) | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | apart from that its all good | 15:36 |
| sheytan | yep, it's always so that you can't make everyone happy :) | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: check this out : http://adjamblog.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/rekonq-0-6-beta/ | 16:02 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what do I see? | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | new rekonq release, try that one out. | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | and tell me if you have the issues | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | also since its now based on Qt 4.7 it _should_ behave :P | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | it is beta? | 16:04 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | s/?/! | 16:04 |
| shadeslayer | you can try the daily ppa | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | get it in maverick | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | one of these days ill be spanked for breaking FF | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i was thinking that we should wait for final release | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | or break FF now and say that 0.5.90 is a bug fix release :P | 16:06 |
| Riddell | rekonq is a release goal, we can put 0.6 in without problems since it's known more stable | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: theres this awesome thing called ppa-purge now | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | you can add ppa > upgrade foobar > if you dont like it, use sudo purge-ppa ppa:foo and it downgrades everything | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: alright im onto it then ;) | 16:07 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: if we are to judge stuff at this point it should be in the archives | 16:08 |
| Riddell | any Polish people about? | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | if it fails FFe it is not for consideration anyway | 16:08 |
| * apachelogger pokes Quintasan | 16:08 | |
| Riddell | Quintasan: is this blog sane and do you know the author? http://mrybczynska.wordpress.com/ | 16:09 |
| * apachelogger is pretty far on his qtdbus type system blog | 16:09 | |
| apachelogger | NOT | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | :( | 16:09 |
| * apachelogger goes on break | 16:09 | |
| Riddell | koffice-l10n uploaded | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://pastebin.com/i17qT6wB << does that look right to you ? | 16:17 |
| shadeslayer | its src/data/rekonq.desktop | 16:17 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: why shouldn't it be right? | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | well | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | we have a patch which has these translations | 16:18 |
| Riddell | yes and upstream have used it, you can remove the patch | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | http://pastebin.com/WnAPcQZd | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 16:19 |
| shadeslayer | but how is it the same? | 16:19 |
| Riddell | because adjam applied the patch I gave him | 16:19 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 16:19 |
| Sput | hmmm. does anyone know if the dbusmenu stuff in plasma requires some (possibly *buntu-specific) daemon to run? | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: new rekonq package at https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | hasnt been processed yet | 16:33 |
| Riddell | you rock shadeslayer | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 16:45 |
| Riddell | Sput: it does not | 16:45 |
| Riddell | just a patch to qt | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | ehm | 16:52 |
| * apachelogger is wondering why jovie is running on his system | 16:52 | |
| apachelogger | strangeness | 16:52 |
| Sput | Riddell: hmm strange, because plasma seems to still request the traditional context menu here, and I can't see anything like org.ayatana.* in qdbusviewer | 16:58 |
| Riddell | it's a freedesktop spec | 16:59 |
| Sput | Riddell: mh, but plasma seems to ship a org.ayatana.dbusmenu interface file | 17:01 |
| Sput | that's all very confusing to me | 17:01 |
| Riddell | maybe I'm wrong | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: how can org.ayatana.dbusmenu be a fdo spec if the fdo namespace is org.freedesktop/ | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | ? | 17:02 |
| Sput | and the docs for dbusmenu are not existant, it seems | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | at best it is porposed for fdo | 17:02 |
| Sput | in any case, a dbus interface file means that there should be a daemon/servive somewhere, right? | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | Sput: http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/dbusmenu/spec/classorg_1_1ayatana_1_1dbusmenu.html | 17:04 |
| Sput | yeah, that's the interface, but it doesn't tell me how to actually use/test the stuff | 17:04 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: We can sync from experimental. | 17:04 |
| Sput | could some of you kubuntu guys please check qdbusviewer if there's some ayatana service running? | 17:04 |
| Sput | or anything else that has "dbusmenu" in its name | 17:05 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: yeah, waiting for madision to be up to date ( its been uploaded to experimental ) | 17:05 |
| * apachelogger is wondering if that is not form libdbusmenu | 17:05 | |
| apachelogger | Sput: no ayatana here | 17:06 |
| Sput | libdbusmenu doesn't ship any .xml | 17:06 |
| Sput | :/ | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | hm | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | it at least includes one in the source | 17:06 |
| Riddell | qdbus | grep dbus is empty | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | and what is that: /home/me/src/svn/kde/KDE/kdelibs/kdeui/notifications/org.ayatana.dbusmenu.xml | 17:07 |
| * apachelogger is also getting confused | 17:08 | |
| Sput | yes, that's what KDE ships | 17:08 |
| Sput | and there's plasma dataengine for importing dbusmenus | 17:08 |
| Sput | but... without a service, where is it's importing them from? | 17:09 |
| apachelogger | the apps? :P | 17:09 |
| Sput | hm | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | !find org.ayatana.dbusmenu | 17:10 |
| ubottu | Package/file org.ayatana.dbusmenu does not exist in lucid | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | !find org.ayatana.dbusmenu.service | 17:10 |
| ubottu | Package/file org.ayatana.dbusmenu.service does not exist in lucid | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | does not seem as if we had a dbus service for it either | 17:11 |
| Riddell | I remember it was briefly org.freedesktop but then they remembered it wasn't a freedesktop spec (yet) so changed it back to org.ayatana | 17:13 |
| Riddell | anyway, I've lost track of the question here | 17:13 |
| Riddell | are we talking about global menus or systray icon menus? | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: latter I think | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | though I think former does nothing more than latter anyway (just with another menu) | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | ohhhhhh | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | uhhhh | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | Sput: it is part of the statusnotifer | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | it is not an own object registereted at dbus, but an interface of statusnotifieritem | 17:17 |
| Sput | hmm | 17:17 |
| Sput | the plasma tray seems to ignore the menu we export, and I think we do the same as KStatusNotifierItem | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | look for org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-* /MenuBar | 17:17 |
| Sput | ok | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do gnome apps also get a org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-* entry on dbus? | 17:18 |
| * apachelogger has no gnome tray apps around | 17:18 | |
| Riddell | what makes you think I have gnome apps around? :) | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | you made advertising screenshots of them incorporating into kde systray IIRC :P | 17:19 |
| * apachelogger alwyas forgets removing stuff after he installed it | 17:20 | |
| apachelogger | does rhythmbox not have a tray icon :O | 17:21 |
| Riddell | I don't know any gnome systray apps now, they're all indicator menus | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | did they patch it away? | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: and they removed gui settings? | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | or did they never have any? | 17:22 |
| maco | tomboy still goes in the tray... | 17:22 |
| maco | but i dont think its a dbusmenu | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | right | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | monoware never obeys standards made by others than MS :P | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | Sput: you register a org.kde.StatusNotifierWatcher-*? | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | eh org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-* so that the watcher knows about it ;) | 17:25 |
| Sput | yes | 17:25 |
| Sput | and it's displayed by plasma too | 17:26 |
| Sput | ok, we do export the MenuBar/ | 17:27 |
| Sput | so I guess it should be working, but the plasma try still request a traditional context menu... | 17:28 |
| === bhargav is now known as kronos | ||
| apachelogger | Sput: do you have the code committed? | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | emonkey: linuxday dornbirn 27 november? | 17:46 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: ^ what could I be talking about? | 17:46 |
| apachelogger | eh | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer, Riddell: I am getting a warning about googletak-call not being installed? | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yes | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | one sec | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | didnt we agree that needs to be patched away? :P | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | yes package needs updating... ill do that on tuesday | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | or if anyone else wants to do it.. feel free | 17:50 |
| Sput | apachelogger: not yet merged | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: have a look http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/5049/ | 18:17 |
| shadeslayer | fixed all them errors | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: still no ack from fredrik? | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | no :( | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | im all sad because of that | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | notmart ackd | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | but he needs a ack from fredrik as well before it can go in | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | hm | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | I know | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | :P | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | const QList<int> iconSizes = QList<int>() << 16 << 22 << 32 << 48 << 64 << 128; | 18:19 |
| * shadeslayer hates madison | 18:19 | |
| apachelogger | that seems dirty | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | very very dirty | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: line 501 | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | not my doing ;) | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | i took most of the code from configaccepted() and refactored it | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you duplicated it | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | which is not good | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | not exact duplicated | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | but? | 18:21 |
| shadeslayer | some of the stuff wasnt needed, so removed it | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | I mean that line | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | that one particular line | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | that one seriously meaningful line | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | you duplicated it | 18:21 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 18:21 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 18:21 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: feel free to criticize | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | should the sizes change or get enhanced one needs to know that there are two occurances!!! | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | and tell me the correct implementation | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | that should either be a member or what is even better a static const version | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | or if you find no other way use a C macro | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | but duplicting that line is just ewwww IMHO | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | so have something like : static const QList<int> iconSizes = QList<int>() << 16 << 22 << 32 << 48 << 64 << 128; : in folderview.h ? | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | and replace all instances | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^^ | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | AAHAHHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA | 18:30 |
| shadeslayer | erm? | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | rekon may go make sweet love to itself | 18:30 |
| * apachelogger just got logged out | 18:30 | |
| apachelogger | all hail the rekonq | 18:30 |
| shadeslayer | whut? | 18:30 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 18:30 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: is it good? :P | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | I HATE THAT THING SO MUCH | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | lets make kaffeine default as long as rekonq goes | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | whoa ... | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | what happened dude | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | I would be better of using a VCR for browsing | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | and on rekonq 0.5.80 or 0.5 ? | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: really what happened ? | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | it logged me out | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | from reviewboard? | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | maybe the cookie expored ? :P | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | *expired | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | or rekonq just hates you | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | rekonq is just crap | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | that is the problem | 18:35 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 18:36 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: rekonq 0.6 beta? | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | is it in maverick? | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | no | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | if you can upload it | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | its in my ppa ;) | 18:45 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: needs exception | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | right | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | should i file one? | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | wait wrong question :P | 18:46 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: apachelogger Riddell bug 622364 | 18:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622364 in rekonq (Ubuntu) "FFe: rekonq 0.5.80" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622364 | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: try rekonq from my ppa : https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental | 18:52 |
| shadeslayer | and im off to sleep .... | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: will address your concerns with patch tomorrow | 18:53 |
| * shadeslayer out | 18:53 | |
| Riddell | thanks shadeslayer | 18:54 |
| jussi | o// | 20:19 |
| sheytan | Getting closer and closer: http://www.webpagescreenshot.info/img/351518-8222010104558PM http://www.webpagescreenshot.info/img/548316-8222010104617PM http://www.webpagescreenshot.info/img/881287-8222010104634PM | 20:52 |
| * apachelogger got quite the headache | 22:11 | |
| * apachelogger also found a bug | 22:11 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: lovely <3 | 22:11 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: yes I do know her, she is the translation coordinator in kde-i18n-pl | 22:17 |
| * apachelogger pokes Riddell with http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/08/21/qtwebkit-video/#comment-390 | 22:17 | |
| Quintasan | Riddell: and this blog seems "sane", if by sane you mean that it makes sense | 22:17 |
| CIA-71 | [workspace] sitter * 1166775 * trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/systemsettings/app/SettingsBase.cpp (log message trimmed) | 22:44 |
| CIA-71 | Support X-KDE-System-Settings-Parent-Category-V2 entries also for categories in | 22:44 |
| CIA-71 | a 3rd party usecase. KPackageKit for example distributes its own category and | 22:44 |
| CIA-71 | [workspace] sitter * 1166776 * branches/KDE/4.5/kdebase/workspace/systemsettings/app/SettingsBase.cpp (log message trimmed) | 22:50 |
| CIA-71 | backport of r1166775 Support X-KDE-System-Settings-Parent-Category-V2 entries | 22:50 |
| CIA-71 | also for categories in a 3rd party usecase. KPackageKit for example distributes | 22:50 |
| CIA-71 | [kpackagekit] sitter * 1166778 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/kpackagekit/Desktop/settings-add-and-remove-software.desktop Add a V2 sytemsettings category for KDE 4.5 (works in 4.5 after revision 1166776 and trunk after revision 1166775). | 22:51 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1166776&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1166776 | 22:51 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1166775&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1166775 | 22:51 |
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