Hellow|SSH | Now it's displaying little after the grub menu. | 00:00 |
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Hellow|SSH | It shows some for around a second with the intial startup screen, then nothing. | 00:00 |
penguin42 | hmm ok, not sure why - were you running fglrx ? | 00:02 |
Hellow|SSH | Yes, but I removed the xorg.conf file that declared for fglrx to be used. | 00:03 |
penguin42 | hmm ok, I would have expected that to work | 00:03 |
penguin42 | I'm running a 4350 | 00:03 |
Hellow|SSH | hmm | 00:03 |
penguin42 | what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say now? | 00:04 |
wers | I want to test Maverick and am currently on Lucid. would installing the .iso be any "cleaner" than update-manager -d? | 00:50 |
funkyHat | Ooh alt works again in gnome-terminal ⡈) | 01:04 |
funkyHat | wers: possibly. Either way is helpful for testing though | 01:05 |
funkyHat | wers: one way you're testing the upgrade path, the other way you're testing the installer ⡈) | 01:05 |
funkyHat | I tend to always upgrade, personally | 01:05 |
shadeslayer | wers: short answer, yes | 01:05 |
penguin42 | yeh, although upgrading does tend to throw up some weird stuff | 01:06 |
funkyHat | I tend to upgrade really really early, so I probably get even more weird stuff ;D | 01:06 |
wers | funkyHat and shadeslayer thanks | 01:06 |
penguin42 | ditto | 01:06 |
wers | ok. maybe, I'll just install the alpha 3 iso :) | 01:06 |
wers | does anyone know the md5 of alpha 3 i386? Can't find it | 01:07 |
kklimonda | wers: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/maverick/alpha-3/ | 01:08 |
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wers | kklimonda, thanks! | 01:08 |
NinoScript | between desktop and netbook editions, which applications are different? (I'm asking "non interface" wise) | 01:13 |
NinoScript | ohh, and of course, I'm asking about maverick specific changes if there are any :) | 01:14 |
bcurtiswx | someone in a mood to confirm a graphics issue for me | 02:36 |
bcurtiswx | http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1156&bih=667&q=sun&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= | 02:36 |
bcurtiswx | go there, and try using your laptop mousepad up and down scroll | 02:37 |
bcurtiswx | it cause the kernel to freak out | 02:37 |
bcurtiswx | thats the specifics | 02:37 |
bcurtiswx | NOTE: make sure you have your mouse on an image | 02:37 |
wrigglesworth | Hi guys. I just installed ubuntu 10.1 on my pc and basically every looked normal for a while but after a restart everything is huge. When I try to change the screen resolution it just expands the desktop to off the screen. Sound familiar to anyone? Can anyone help? | 02:53 |
kklimonda | interesting, I've learnt today that there were pentium 4 cpus with EM64T | 02:55 |
kklimonda | well, they are still here | 02:55 |
Sylphid | hey all, how can I open an app on the netbook remix when unity search results do not include the app and alt+f2 does not work ... will i need to launch from a tty? | 03:32 |
ZykoticK9 | Sylphid, anything that would run from alt+f2 "should" run from terminal ;) | 03:34 |
Sylphid | ZykoticK9, right, i can launch it from there but i was wondering if there was a graphical way to launch it since alt+f2 is broken in the netbook remix | 03:35 |
ZykoticK9 | Sylphid, sorry I haven't played with Unity at all. Good luck. | 03:36 |
Sylphid | ZykoticK9, gnome-terminal is missing from unity so switching to a tty to launch is a pain | 03:36 |
DanaG | Say, the "progs" dir in xorg-edgers "apt-get source mesa" is missing! | 04:40 |
DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/621006 | 05:04 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 621006 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Power manager fails to start" [Undecided,New] | 05:04 |
DanaG | argh. | 05:04 |
DanaG | Means I can't use "radeon". | 05:04 |
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DanaG | hmm, unity is broken/ | 07:38 |
DanaG | GetGroupProperties is not a valid method of interface org.ayatana.dbusmenu. | 07:38 |
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DanaG | weird... my btrfs is showing full when I make a single huge file, even when it's only 70% full in reality. | 09:09 |
DanaG | weird... my btrfs is showing full when I make a single huge file, even when it's only 70% full in reality. | 09:11 |
DanaG | er | 09:11 |
DanaG | sorry, thought my message got lost. | 09:11 |
DanaG | argh, appmenu-gtk makes firefox crash 100% of the time you try to start it. | 09:27 |
kklimonda | it also leaks memory like hell | 09:27 |
cm9 | How would I configure maverick meerkat to triple boot? Say I had two os's installed already (win7 & ubuntu), then I resized and installed winxp afterwards and it overwrote the MBR. What's the best way to rewrite it and include winxp as an option too? | 09:35 |
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sebsebseb | Hi | 13:33 |
penguin42 | Hi | 13:34 |
sebsebseb | penguin42: hi | 13:41 |
BUGabundo | guud afternoon | 14:48 |
penguin42 | hi | 14:54 |
* BUGabundo tries his luck again | 14:56 | |
BUGabundo | anyone here with good knowlagde in SSDs and btrfs ? | 14:56 |
charlie-tca | Hello, BUGabundo | 15:00 |
charlie-tca | Not me for those things... | 15:00 |
BUGabundo | hey hey big C | 15:00 |
vish | BIG C! | 15:01 |
vish | :D | 15:01 |
Dink | Is there a way to find what proc is using up all my memory and swapping ? | 15:09 |
Dink | actually better yet just swapping not using all memory | 15:10 |
BUGabundo | Dink: atop 2 | 15:10 |
BUGabundo | them press m | 15:10 |
Dink | Which column shows swap usage per proc ? | 15:12 |
Dink | MEM | tot 2.0G | free 542.9M | cache 934.5M | buff 24.3M | slab 46.2M | | 15:13 |
Dink | SWP | tot 1.9G | free 730.2M | | vmcom 2.9G | vmlim 2.8G | | 15:13 |
Dink | Trying to figure out why ~1.2G of swap used | 15:14 |
lfaraone_ | On my computer, which I just upgraded yesterday, Plymouth stops during boot, it just seems stuck there. On recovery mode, I don't get to the recovery menu. http://img442.imageshack.us/i/imageab.jpg/ is a screenie of my console. How can I figure out the problem? | 15:15 |
penguin42 | Dink: You could try grep Swap /proc/*/smaps and figure out where it's coming from | 15:15 |
lfaraone_ | Dink: Linux may swap out processes if they aren't being used even if you have sufficient RAM. | 15:15 |
penguin42 | Dink: Although of course the fact that something IS swapped doesn't mean its the hog, it could be something else pushing your perfectly helpful app out of the way | 15:15 |
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penguin42 | lfaraone: 1.2G is a bit extreme though! | 15:16 |
Dink | penguin42, yeah that was my concern as well and it seems to just grow | 15:16 |
lfaraone|mobile | penguin42: It depends on a number of factors. His RAM usage may have peaked at one point and the data has not been accessed yet. | 15:16 |
penguin42 | Dink: Normal trick is just run top and sort by memory usage and see who is the biggest user | 15:17 |
penguin42 | Dink: Do you actually currently have free memory or is all used up? | 15:17 |
Dink | Usually free memory | 15:17 |
Dink | about 500M free right now | 15:18 |
penguin42 | ok, as lfaraone suggested it sounds like something peaked a while ago, pushed it out and went away | 15:18 |
Dink | hmm | 15:20 |
Dink | grep Swap /proc/*/smaps |awk '{print $2,$3,$1}' |sort -rn | head -2 | 15:20 |
Dink | 10148 kB /proc/2127/smaps:Swap: | 15:20 |
Dink | 8604 kB /proc/2129/smaps:Swap: | 15:20 |
Dink | $ ps -ef |grep 2127 | 15:20 |
Dink | user 2127 1 0 Aug19 ? 00:42:52 xchat | 15:20 |
lfaraone|mobile | !paste | Dink | 15:21 |
ubottu | Dink: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 15:21 |
Dink | sorry | 15:21 |
Dink | so looks like memory got used up and pushed xchat into swap ? | 15:22 |
Dink | and whatever app that did it ended hence the free memory now? | 15:22 |
penguin42 | Dink: Probably, although if you are 1.2G into swap and have 512M free that still suggests soemthing big is hanging around | 15:23 |
penguin42 | also if those are the largest entries in Swap that doesn't sound like 1.2G does it (although I've never used those Swap fields before) | 15:24 |
dutchie | am i seeing a bug, or is it very hard to get the "stay in launcher"/"remove" menu up in unity? | 15:30 |
lfaraone|mobile | crimsun_: Poke. | 15:34 |
wers | I installed gnome-shell from the official repo. unfortunately, it doesn't run | 15:35 |
wers | I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/481899/ | 15:35 |
wers | what could be the workaround? | 15:35 |
BUGabundo | what's the difference between kingston SSD v and v+ series? | 15:49 |
penguin42 | a + ? | 15:51 |
BUGabundo | stop being sarcastic :( | 15:55 |
BUGabundo | I need help! | 15:55 |
charlie-tca | hmm, looks like a "+" to me too. Maybe a "Thanks, penguin42 " is in order? | 15:56 |
charlie-tca | ;-) | 15:56 |
penguin42 | me? Sarcastic? Noooooo | 15:56 |
penguin42 | BUGabundo: What's your actual problem? | 15:56 |
BUGabundo | I order a SSD | 15:57 |
BUGabundo | a kingston 64GBs | 15:57 |
penguin42 | ok | 15:57 |
BUGabundo | and now I find out about this '+' series | 15:57 |
BUGabundo | (the other question is how is current support of btrfs in sdd in MM) | 15:57 |
penguin42 | Well the + is likely to be newer, faster or less buggy | 15:57 |
penguin42 | Or just more expensive - but one assumes they added the + later | 15:58 |
lfaraone|mobile | penguin42: Newer and faster usually go hand in hand with more bugs. | 15:58 |
penguin42 | lfaraone|mobile: Indeed, the other possibility is that the + is the one where they fixed the bugs | 15:58 |
penguin42 | BUGabundo: + has larger cache, available in larger sizes, has a garbage collect, and looks faster from the spec sheet | 16:00 |
penguin42 | BUGabundo: http://www.kingston.com/ssd/vplus-series.asp vs http://www.kingston.com/ssd/v-series.asp | 16:01 |
BUGabundo | lfaraone you mean maverick has more bugs then lucid?? | 16:01 |
BUGabundo | NOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 16:01 |
penguin42 | oh and bizarrely it looks like you can shake it harder while its running | 16:01 |
lfaraone|mobile | BUGabundo: I thought that was obvious. | 16:02 |
BUGabundo | penguin42: LOL | 16:02 |
penguin42 | BUGabundo: Hey there's always a faster/newer/quicker thing out there - and I bet the + costs more | 16:02 |
BUGabundo | I know | 16:03 |
lfaraone|mobile | The week after I got my 1TB HD they dropped the price of the 1.5TB. | 16:03 |
lfaraone|mobile | C'est la vie. | 16:03 |
BUGabundo | gonna go with what ever I order then | 16:03 |
BUGabundo | most prob non v+ | 16:04 |
BUGabundo | thanks penguin42 | 16:04 |
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charlie-tca | Anyone running Xubuntu Maverick got time to confirm a terminal bug? | 17:06 |
penguin42 | I can probably get a vm into it | 17:08 |
penguin42 | charlie-tca: Is this lxterminal ? | 17:10 |
charlie-tca | no, xfce4-terminal | 17:10 |
penguin42 | ok, got it | 17:10 |
charlie-tca | It's easy, just click edit -> preferences, click each tab, then click close | 17:11 |
* penguin42 has a VM with lubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu all in | 17:11 | |
charlie-tca | The bug is bug 609500 | 17:11 |
penguin42 | *bang* | 17:11 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 609500 in xfce4-terminal (Ubuntu) "xfce4-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in exo_mutual_binding_unbind()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/609500 | 17:11 |
charlie-tca | The terminal window closes when close is hit after going through the preferences | 17:11 |
charlie-tca | Thanks | 17:12 |
penguin42 | yep same bug | 17:12 |
charlie-tca | Kind of irritating, but not really serious | 17:12 |
penguin42 | confirmed | 17:13 |
charlie-tca | Great! Thank you very much | 17:13 |
penguin42 | np | 17:14 |
Dink | penguin42: and lfaraone: the issue seemed to be mutter. Once I killed the proc and it spawned again my memory looks normal now | 17:15 |
Dink | 1gb ram used and no swap | 17:15 |
lfaraone|mobile | Dink: Ah, mk. | 17:16 |
Dink | Also trying out irssi vs xchat to help use less memory | 17:16 |
lapion | anyone know how to activate an iwl2100 wifi card with a software power button ? | 17:21 |
penguin42 | lapion: Do you have a /sys/class/rfkill ? | 17:23 |
lapion | rfkill list : | 17:31 |
lapion | Hard blocked: yes | 17:32 |
penguin42 | do you have /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill0 and is there a soft and hard file in there? | 17:33 |
lapion | yes | 17:36 |
penguin42 | if you cat soft and cat hard what do they show ? | 17:36 |
lapion | hard=1 soft=0 | 17:37 |
penguin42 | hmm same as mine, and the hard on mine corresponds to an actual switch | 17:38 |
penguin42 | you could always try echo 0 > hard but I doubt it will work | 17:38 |
lapion | there is a hardware pushbutton.. | 17:39 |
lapion | yeah echo 1 > hard , gives permission denied | 17:40 |
penguin42 | even in a sudo -s shell? (sudo echo 1 > hard won't work) | 17:40 |
lapion | however echo 1 > soft does work... | 17:40 |
lapion | yes | 17:40 |
penguin42 | so if the soft is 0 and you have a hardware button for the hard one what's the problem? | 17:41 |
lapion | it's a pseudo hardware button | 17:42 |
lapion | one of the regular keyboard buttons | 17:42 |
penguin42 | oh I see, I've got a nice actual switch on this one | 17:43 |
lapion | sorry regular keyboard multimedia buttons on laptops | 17:43 |
lapion | what values do you have for uevent ? | 17:43 |
penguin42 | actually, I don't think I've found the equivalent on my eeepc | 17:43 |
penguin42 | lapion: NAME=phy0, TYPE=wlan STATE=2 | 17:44 |
lapion | the other files.. | 17:44 |
lapion | or rfkill0/power/control mine is set to auto | 17:45 |
penguin42 | ditto | 17:45 |
cmeiklejohn | hi there | 17:46 |
penguin42 | hi | 17:46 |
cmeiklejohn | how goes it? | 17:46 |
penguin42 | not too bad | 17:46 |
cmeiklejohn | I was just wondering if someone else could confirm a bug for me if they had a minute -- | 17:47 |
cmeiklejohn | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/621852 | 17:47 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 621852 in empathy (Ubuntu) "empathy crashing on every startup" [Undecided,New] | 17:47 |
cmeiklejohn | Wasn't sure if I had a misconfiguration that was the root of the problem. | 17:48 |
* penguin42 doesn't use empathy | 17:49 | |
cmeiklejohn | ah, ok. | 17:49 |
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AndrewMC | What is better install mavric via a fresh install or doing an upgrade via update manager. Or does it matter? | 18:59 |
penguin42 | AndrewMC: Tend to get a few more issues on the upgrade | 19:00 |
AndrewMC | I figured | 19:00 |
AndrewMC | Thanks | 19:00 |
* penguin42 tends to upgrade and I generally need to fix a few things | 19:00 | |
AndrewMC | I will do a fresh install | 19:01 |
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lfaraone | On my computer, which I just upgraded yesterday, Plymouth stops during boot, it just seems stuck there. On recovery mode, I don't get to the recovery menu. http://img442.imageshack.us/i/imageab.jpg/ is a screenie of my console. How can I figure out the problem? | 19:19 |
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charlie-tca | removed quiet splash from the boot line? | 19:24 |
lfaraone | charlie-tca: I did, and plymouth still comes up. (the screenshot was in recovery mode) | 19:24 |
IdleOne | anybody unable to change volume by hovering mouse over the volume icon? | 19:25 |
charlie-tca | IdleOne: working in xubuntu | 19:25 |
IdleOne | I have to click on it then the mouse wheel will adjust the volume | 19:26 |
IdleOne | it's a little annoying, didn't this happen in Lucid also before release? | 19:26 |
charlie-tca | lfaraone: I don't see anything in that screenshot should be stopping the boot from working | 19:28 |
lfaraone | charlie-tca: right, but it just sat there.... | 19:28 |
charlie-tca | but sometimes I don't know what to look for | 19:28 |
charlie-tca | hmm, wonder if "acpi=off" would change it? | 19:29 |
penguin42 | IdleOne: Yeh same here | 19:38 |
penguin42 | IdleOne: It'll be the new indicator thing | 19:38 |
IdleOne | I think they should rename the applets, make it just a little less intuitive. Indicator Applet is way to easy to figure out | 19:39 |
lfaraone | charlie-tca: screen of single user mode with acpi off, screen of GRUB as I'm entereing the boot parameters for normal mode, and screen of normal boot, respectively. | 19:40 |
lfaraone | http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1545/img1760b.jpg, http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8430/img1761t.jpg, http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5513/img1762c.jpg | 19:41 |
charlie-tca | did you have nvidia hardware drivers installed? | 19:47 |
charlie-tca | I don't know how to fix it now. Nvidia drivers are causing issues in maverick this week | 19:48 |
charlie-tca | Maybe someone else will jump in? | 19:48 |
lfaraone | charlie-tca: I think I did. | 19:48 |
lfaraone | charlie-tca: am I relegated to a reinstall at this point? | 19:48 |
charlie-tca | I don't really know. There are people much more knowledgeable than I am, but they don't appear to be here today. Can you wait until tomorrow ? | 19:49 |
yofel | bug 616023 is the most common nvidia issue currently | 19:49 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 616023 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu Maverick) "nVidia card : X won't start since 1.9 update, no screens found" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616023 | 19:49 |
duffydack | Does the fglrx driver work yet? I`ll install for rilz if so. | 19:57 |
penguin42 | duffydack: Don't think so | 19:58 |
duffydack | penguin42, :( ok. I dont like my fan running max constantly :) | 19:58 |
lfaraone | charlie-tca: ah, ignoreABI workedforme. | 20:32 |
charlie-tca | great! | 20:33 |
yofel | :) | 20:33 |
charlie-tca | Thanks, yofel | 20:33 |
lfaraone | yofel: thanks for the pointer. I'm glad I had a recovery disk around. | 20:33 |
yofel | np, actually, if plymouth gets stuck ever again try sysrq+k which should kill it (that gave me a working console at least) - forgot to mention that | 20:35 |
yofel | (sysrq+k would be alt+print+k usually) | 20:35 |
DanaG | ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on com.Gwibber.Searches:/com/gwibber/Searches: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.Gwibber.Searches was not provided by any .service files | 20:47 |
WaY | hello | 20:55 |
WaY | what happends with amsn that opens two tasks in kde 4.5 taskbar? and one of them is like hanged up | 20:56 |
DasEi | apt-get source linux-image-2.6.35-17-generic can't find the kernelsources, any trick about it ? | 21:15 |
WaY | apt-get update ; apt-get source linux-image-2.6.35-17-generic --fix-missing | 21:16 |
DanaG | stupid gwibber... doesn't show any messages at all! | 21:27 |
BUGabundo | +1 | 21:29 |
BUGabundo | I just have it closed | 21:29 |
BUGabundo | it dies way too much | 21:29 |
yofel | oh nice, nvidia just crashed kwin, the restarted kwin works fine, but I have snow on my screen, as in pixels with wrong color | 21:29 |
yofel | #6 0x00007faa180c472e in ?? () from /usr/lib/nvidia-current/libnvidia-glcore.so.256.44 | 21:29 |
yofel | feels like snow on nice old analog TVs... | 21:30 |
DasEi | WaY: tried, still not found, does it work on your system ? | 21:34 |
yofel | DasEi: works fine here http://paste.ubuntu.com/482025/ | 21:35 |
DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/614742 | 21:35 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 614742 in gwibber (Ubuntu) "[meta] cannot add facebook account, facebook does not update and more" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:35 |
WaY | yes | 21:36 |
WaY | it works fine on mine | 21:36 |
DasEi | yofel, way. thanks for reply, my repos where borked, done now | 22:23 |
WaY | nice | 22:24 |
Daekdroom | Is anyone else having problem with unresponsive nautilus? | 22:41 |
DanaG | Weird, espeak crashes when I tell it to speak this string I found in the ATI binary driver: | 22:46 |
DanaG | ooboghieteipheilahpheengohnashoahveerohpithaewaxaepheepaiquevuhpahmaezosengoinoraeteichyaighaidxieghoghaichoocheecaesalphoothizhoonaethpohvahniouzaghiezoquahbaleikohpoaiyooyaueuroothoeefohsah | 22:46 |
DanaG | And there seems to be no espeak-dbg package. | 22:48 |
Daekdroom | DanaG, I wonder.. | 22:55 |
DanaG | Buffer overflow. | 22:58 |
DanaG | Must not be expecting to get a string that long. =þ | 22:58 |
Daekdroom | Nautilus is deadly slow here. Apparently too much I/O | 23:00 |
yofel | you can check IO with iotop | 23:00 |
Daekdroom | I tried, and it magically started working | 23:00 |
Daekdroom | Weee | 23:00 |
Daekdroom | Or not | 23:00 |
Daekdroom | But definitely not I/O | 23:01 |
Daekdroom | I think it's the ubuntu one plugin | 23:01 |
Daekdroom | It makes rendering too slow. I'll try to switch GTK+ engine | 23:02 |
Viper550 | hey | 23:14 |
* BUGabundo is trying to get xmacro to work | 23:26 | |
BUGabundo | how does this thing read a file? | 23:26 |
wers | Can't install gnome-shell. I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/482064/ | 23:47 |
wers | it may have something to do with conflicting packages with Unity or Firefox-4.0 | 23:47 |
wers | I already did ppa-purge the corresponding ppa's (Canonical DX and Mozilla Daily). any idea why I can't meet the gnome-shell dependencies? | 23:48 |
wers | just found out that ppa-purge wasn't able to downgrade some (if not all) packages from the Mozilla Daily PPA. I hope, i don't have to reinstall Maverick to make sure all traces of the PPA are gone | 23:56 |
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