[00:10] <babelfish1> thanks, glad i forgot to log out :)
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[02:55] <angelo454> Hi has anyone experienced problems with mySQL? About every 3-5 boot ups it does not start.
[02:57] <tgm4883> angelo454, sounds like a race condition
[03:00] <angelo454> I have a frontend running on the same machine and I do notice that it won't find the backend and I have to restart it and it will find it the second time. What can I do to correct the race condition?
[03:01] <tgm4883> angelo454, what is the output of 'dpkg -l mythtv-backend'
[03:04] <angelo454> The response was "failed to read archive 'myth-backend' . . ." should I be root or in a certain directory?
[03:05] <tgm4883> mythtv-backend
[03:05] <tgm4883> no, you don't need to be root
[03:07] <angelo454> same response
[03:08] <tgm4883> hmm
[03:08] <tgm4883> thats odd
[03:08] <tgm4883> try it with a sudo I guess
[03:10] <angelo454> still the same response. I am running mythfilldatabase. that would not interfere with the dpkg command?
[03:10] <tgm4883> it shouldn't
[03:11] <tgm4883> sounds like dpkg might be broke for you?
[03:13] <angelo454> I have used Update Manager to get the latest MythTV version .23. Is that similar to dpkg?
[03:13] <tgm4883> are you using auto-builds?
[03:17] <angelo454> Yes, I got .23+fixes and tonight I saw there was a new build and updated to that one. I am running KnoppMyth with .22 on another machine and am working on upgrading to Mythbuntu with .23 on this machine. I found the system unstable with live TV saw I tried the .23+fixes but it did not help.
[03:35] <tgm4883> angelo454, take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1511342
[03:35] <Zinn> [ubuntuforums.org]  Backend start and udev rule race condition - Ubuntu Forums
[03:40] <angelo454> ran the command again. This time lower case L instead of upper case I (eye).
[03:40] <angelo454> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[03:40] <angelo454> | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[03:40] <angelo454> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[03:40] <angelo454> ||/ Name           Version        Description
[03:40] <angelo454> +++-[03:40] <angelo454> un  mythtv-backend <none>         (no description available)
[03:40] <angelo454> angelo@play-myth:~$
[03:43] <angelo454> From the thread you referenced, I should have fixed it when I ran auto-builds.
[03:47] <angelo454> Sorry, I ran it from the frontend. When I run it on the backend I have 0.23.0++fixes2. This is the version I just updated to about an hour ago.
[03:52] <dewman> angelo454, you might want to use pastebin
[03:52] <dewman> =)
[03:57] <angelo454> Will it allow me to copy text from one computer to another?
[04:07] <angelo454>  I'll see what happens with this latest autobuilds version. Thanks for your help.
[11:11] <henkpoley> Current Ctrl+Alt+Del behaviour is to lock the current desktop. Is there a place to disable this ?
[11:23] <henkpoley> Ah the XFCE settings editor (a bit like regedit) has a way to set keyboard shortcuts. Removed the command from the custom ctrl alt del one, and it's fine now
[22:36] <typhoon> I know this is logged so I'll throw it in. If people have problems with firmware (dvb-fe-tda10046.fw) being uploaded then it is worth giving this a go: cd /etc/init then mv the mythbuntu script to a different name (put .old on the end) and then reboot and rename it back, then reboot again. I have had no problems since.
[22:37] <typhoon> not sure why it works but it has
[22:37] <typhoon> :)
[22:41] <typhoon> another fix: If you have a frontend on the backend server, ensure you use the network IP and not the loopback when setting up. There is a wierd bug where other frontends pick up the config from the DB and tries to get the tuner stream from localhost.
[22:43] <typhoon> if you are feeling brave connect to the mysql instance and do this: use mythconverg; update settings set data = 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' where data ='127.0.0.1';
[22:43] <typhoon> change the x's for your backend IP address
[22:46] <tgm4883> typhoon, regarding the frontend on the backend server, that is not a bug, that is proper configuration
[22:46] <tgm4883> there is a difference
[22:46] <typhoon> ah, ok
[22:47] <typhoon> should have read the manual :-)
[22:47] <tgm4883> not sure why the first thing works though
[22:48] <typhoon> could be something simple as date time stamp on the script files i guess
[22:48] <typhoon> i know what causes it
[22:48] <typhoon> myth tries to send commands to the chip while the firmware is being uploaded
[22:48] <typhoon> so the chip goes nuts
[22:49] <tgm4883> but that shouldn't be fixed by doing what you are doing
[22:49] <tgm4883> if anything, it might be a race condition
[22:49] <typhoon> aye, it could be
[22:49] <typhoon> its a really odd one
[22:50] <typhoon> the other way is to stick a "sleep 10" or something in the init script but that slows boot time
[22:51] <typhoon> no-one seems to know how to actually "fix" it. it's not a problem with myth or the firmware, just the way they play together
[22:53] <typhoon> thanks for the headsup on the B/E config. might actually read through it see if i've missed anything else haha