| === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero | ||
| * apachelogger thinks kdevelop got too many sidebars | 08:21 | |
| * apachelogger loves unknown entries in cachegrind logs -.- | 10:06 | |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| apachelogger | hm | 11:13 |
|---|---|---|
| * apachelogger is wondering why rekonq does not have text alongside icons | 11:14 | |
| * apachelogger actually knows why, because it is crap, he rather wonders why no one complained about it | 11:14 | |
| Quintasan | :< | 11:15 |
| Quintasan | what was about that Polish blog? | 11:15 |
| Quintasan | I can remember Riddell asking about it but I can't remember answering >_< | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | launchpad timeout \o/ | 11:16 |
| Quintasan | Isn't that normal? | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: you did answer | 11:16 |
| Quintasan | Oh, good | 11:17 |
| * apachelogger is worrid that Quintasan does not remember that | 11:17 | |
| Quintasan | the underlaying cause might be in something I did yesterday but I will keep diplomatic silence about that | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | wise choice :P | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | not everyone needs to know about us | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | oh, I didn't say that in a query :/ | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | anyone tried kdepim b2? | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | amichair: pingy | 11:32 |
| amichair | apachelogger: pongo | 11:32 |
| apachelogger | s/n// | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | pogo++ | 11:33 |
| amichair | pigy? | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | s/g/gg/ | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | piggy++ | 11:33 |
| amichair | apachelogggger? | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | amichair: did you ever look into policykityifying software-properties? | 11:34 |
| amichair | not in depth | 11:34 |
| * apachelogger imagines we could build a worker with dbus interfaces like libqapt has ... then just call foo of the worker when save() is called | 11:34 | |
| apachelogger | supposedly we could still use the same backends, just that writing new settings is carried out via dbus rather than internally | 11:37 |
| apachelogger | uhh | 11:38 |
| apachelogger | http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/images/eric4-screen-01.png | 11:38 |
| apachelogger | this ui is probably even more scary than kdevelop | 11:38 |
| * apachelogger hides in the vim help | 11:38 | |
| amichair | hehe... it's just a couple spare icons | 11:39 |
| jussi | a couple? :D | 11:39 |
| amichair | or maybe a puzzle game built in. who knows? | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | so I started it | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | and it opens 4 windows | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | I clearly underestimated the UX fail here | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | The update to 4.4.7 of eric4 is availablePlease ask the Debian maintainer to upgrade the package. | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | terrific | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | not only is there a typo, it is also close to useless | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | another dialog telling me that eric4 was not yet configured s it is thoughtfully opening the config dialog now | 11:40 |
| amichair | apachelogger: need a tissue? I thought you alergic to python stuff... | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | now I have that nice config dialog | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | which is possibly more horrible than vlc's | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | eric4 wurde noch nicht konfiguruert. Der Konfigurationsdialog wird nun gestartet. | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | and finally I have a warning about the first dialog | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | going QString::arg: Argument missing: ... | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | by default the toolbars do not look like in the first screenshot btw | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | they are much better | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | each logical part got its own toolbar | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | now since by default toolbars draw seperators | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | ... | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | http://imgur.com/mSVOF the cosy nice conifg dialog | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | http://imgur.com/b68SB checkout the toolbar | 11:44 |
| amichair | ouch, wouldn't want to get cozy with him | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | so I tried importing software-properties | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | "importing" | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | I did not find a proper import function so I created a new project where I defined an existing main file | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | and now | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | it is busy | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | I mean | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | blocked busy | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | the kind where Qt does not get to draw the UI anymore | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | apparently importing software-properties was a very bad idea since eric is now dead | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | well | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | that did go well | 11:47 |
| * apachelogger kills and purges eric and uses editors again | 11:47 | |
| apachelogger | oh :O | 11:49 |
| apachelogger | amichair: software-properties has apply-on-the-fly? | 11:49 |
| amichair | I believe so | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | scary | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | anyhow python-encoding | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | what is python-encoding ... why do I need it ... why does kate complain about it not being available ... where is it? | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | kde rev 1144407 | 11:56 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1144407&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1144407 | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | not good | 11:57 |
| apachelogger | ah | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | fixed for 4.5.1. | 11:59 |
| ari-tczew | hey kde developers, konversation notification is not working :( only by indicator applet | 12:10 |
| CIA-71 | [workspace] sitter * 1167040 * branches/KDE/4.5/kdebase/workspace/systemsettings/app/SettingsBase.cpp Fix bad copy and paste of r1166775 where I lost parentCategory while introducing parentCategory2. | 12:28 |
| apachelogger | hmmm | 13:17 |
| apachelogger | amichair: I think doing a dbus interface ought to be relatively easy | 13:18 |
| * apachelogger starts implementing a SoftwarePropertiesDBus class | 13:19 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ssup | 13:23 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: from the rekonq guy who watches all our strings : http://i18n.kde.org/stats/gui/trunk-kde4/po/rekonq.po/ | 13:23 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: sweet | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | oh wait.. you did reply to pano :P | 13:24 |
| amichair | apachelogger: I'm actually not all that familiar with either dbus or polkit... but I'm sure you've got it covered :-) | 13:26 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: bug 622364 updated | 13:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622364 in rekonq (Ubuntu) "FFe: rekonq 0.5.80" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622364 | 13:31 |
| apachelogger | amichair: I only got knowledge of dbus :P | 13:53 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: it looks like bug 622506 is trying to install koffice-kde4 backports from intrepid on a lucid machine :s | 13:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622506 in koffice2 (Ubuntu) "package koffice-data-kde4 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/actions/object-order-back.png', which is also in package oxygen-icon-theme 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu2" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622506 | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: yeah, but I want to be sure | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | maybe some weird upgrade foo is going on | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you have a bug for me? | 13:58 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, yeah | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: on what? | 13:58 |
| * apachelogger has loads of bugs | 13:58 | |
| JontheEchidna | bug 614699 needs done | 13:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 614699 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Qt 4.7.0 breaks QX11EmbedWidget" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614699 | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/8JJkP4L1 | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ah that was meant for sheytan ^^ | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | oic | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | meh | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | dbus in pyth0rn is the suck | 14:02 |
| JontheEchidna | dbus in Qt is the r0ck | 14:03 |
| JontheEchidna | zomg, you've offended the sabdfl | 14:04 |
| JontheEchidna | now we'll never get our own Kubuntu Kunicorn :( | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | well, it would have a pyth0rn anyway, so I rather not have one :P | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | interface naming in SoftwareProperties is inconsistent | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | there is backup_apt_conf but write_config | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | apparently both affect the apt config file though | 14:09 |
| JontheEchidna | http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktoplt1544 | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: aha! see KUrl wasnt empty before : http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/5049/diff/4-7/#index_header | 14:36 |
| shadeslayer | i just have to find a way to read that value | 14:36 |
| shadeslayer | without using uiLocation | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | why would you need to do that at all? | 14:36 |
| * apachelogger sends cookies to JontheEchidna | 14:37 | |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | good question :P | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | oh lolz | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: nice | 14:37 |
| JontheEchidna | found it a bit weirdish that the ratings painter was in Nepomuk, but oh wells | 14:38 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll have to make that its own sortable column sooner or later | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | https://twitter.com/UPS_EUROPE/status/21910282472 | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | never rant about UPS on twitter ^^ | 14:38 |
| JontheEchidna | THEY ARE COMING FOR YOU | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | interesting customer relations though | 14:39 |
| * apachelogger finds that very awesome | 14:39 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I do not think it should be columned | 14:40 |
| ulysses | JontheEchidna: nice | 14:40 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: how would one sort though? | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | as I said the other day, I would paint custom delegates and just one coulm n containing thouse | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | than somewhere at the top have a button Sort By | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | that opens a dropdown | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | where user can select by-rating | 14:41 |
| JontheEchidna | this is a custom delegate, btw. Totally 100% painter'd | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | via one-column header he can then influence acendeing vs decending (or probably something else than the header since that also looks silly) | 14:42 |
| JontheEchidna | I was thinking of hiding the header if I wasn't going to use it for anything | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: well, then, just drop the column and stuff everything into the delegate | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | a mixture of kpk and what software center does and you should easily be supreme to both | 14:43 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll admit, I did sort've steal kpk's delegate for this :P | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | well, it is surely a good starting point from a techinical POV ^^ | 14:43 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, it's also extendy, so I can put the "more info" and "install" buttons in the extendy part like software-center | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I think if you want to compete with USC you will need to use a lot of the theming and drawing techniques available in Qt | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | after all USC is using web parts IIRC ^^ | 14:45 |
| JontheEchidna | they actually scrapped the web parts in maverick | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | so it would only be fair to play the Qt does proper stylesheets right inside the widgets card ;) | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ah, not the worst idea | 14:45 |
| * apachelogger imagines web parts have accessibility problems | 14:45 | |
| JontheEchidna | and themability/consistency issues too | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 14:46 |
| JontheEchidna | zomg!! http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopzs1544 | 14:46 |
| * apachelogger apparently is creating dbus connections for every function in SoftwareProperties -.- | 14:46 | |
| JontheEchidna | the phantom app | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | we could make the whole KDE UI run on dbus ;) | 14:46 |
| amichair | apachelogger: what's the advantage of using dbus here? | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | in fact, maybe that would not be the worst idea for future cross-toolkit projects | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | amichair: none for the reading part, for the writing part however, since we can start the dbusinterface as root and have the UI talk to it via dbus | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | that way the UI does not have to run as root | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | OTOH... | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | if we make a compete dbus based interaction we could redo the UI in C++ ;) | 14:48 |
| JontheEchidna | oha, the phantom app is not a desktop menu | 14:50 |
| JontheEchidna | *desktop file | 14:50 |
| apachelogger | scary | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | hmmmmm | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | amichair: maybe that will not work | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | libpolkit-qt probably has no pyth0rn bindings | 15:13 |
| * apachelogger looks | 15:13 | |
| JontheEchidna | I looked in to that once | 15:13 |
| JontheEchidna | I think that technically the bindings are there | 15:13 |
| JontheEchidna | but there was a lot of cmake magic that doesn't work with python | 15:13 |
| JontheEchidna | (KAuth) | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | hmmmmm | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: with kauth we need a helper, do we not? | 15:14 |
| * apachelogger is also wondering how that would work with python | 15:15 | |
| apachelogger | -.- | 15:15 |
| JontheEchidna | right, polkit apps need helpers that are run as root | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | python is made out of headache | 15:15 |
| JontheEchidna | though presumably you could use the regular policykit bindings and you'll get Qt frontend in KDE | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | apparently there are no regular bindings | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | dbus is the only way to go | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | unless google is lying ot me | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | *to | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | we could also write a library to stack ontop of the software properties base classes | 15:17 |
| JontheEchidna | aptdaemon uses policykit bindings: http://pastebin.com/B57KSkzg | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | or just rewrite sp altogether :P | 15:17 |
| JontheEchidna | import policykit1 | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: look http://lastfm.dontdrinkandroot.net/ | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: is it just me or is python code always ugly? :P | 15:18 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 15:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: whut is it? | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: have a look | 15:18 |
| * apachelogger gets grumpy | 15:18 | |
| * shadeslayer gives unicorn to apachelogger | 15:19 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I am not lastfming anymoar | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | lastfm plugin of amarok is too fat | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | whai! | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | use clementine then :P | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | clementine is the win | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | clementine depends on gstreamer | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | that is fail | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | whut no | 15:21 |
| * shadeslayer runs to dpkg | 15:21 | |
| shadeslayer | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | i shall reformat my system to get that buggy stuff out | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | back to amarok it is | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | !find policykit1.py | 15:23 |
| ubottu | File policykit1.py found in python-aptdaemon | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ^ | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | told ya :P | 15:23 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | mvo that sneaky robot wrote a wrapper around it | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | ah it was glatzor | 15:24 |
| ulysses | Kopete forgets the accounts, and won't open if I click on the message indicator | 15:26 |
| shadeslayer | ulysses: yeah i see that too :( | 15:27 |
| KukuNut | amarok 2.3.2 beta in maverick? 5days ago? | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | KukuNut: its in ppa | 15:27 |
| KukuNut | which one? | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: maybe I could steal it for sp | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | but I wonder if it is worth all that crap :P | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | a rewrite would be so much better *hint*hint* | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | only some 4k sloc, that is like 2.5k in Qt ;) | 15:28 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 15:30 |
| KukuNut | shadeslayer: those are lucid..looking for the maverick | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | KukuNut: same thing for mav | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | seems amarok didnt survuve a FFe | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | or it wasnt filed | 15:32 |
| KukuNut | shadeslayer: ok..ty | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | holy french fries | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: that python dbus stuff in combination with polkit is super gross | 15:40 |
| * apachelogger now feels unwilling to do that | 15:40 | |
| apachelogger | amichair: if you feel like fiddeling with policykit in pyth0rn, I have a dbus interface for sp ready... | 15:59 |
| amichair | apachelogger: unfortunately, I don't have too much free time these days :-( | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | amichair: well, should you ever ... ;) | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | before I have rewritten it in cpp or ruby :P | 16:01 |
| amichair | apachelogger: but thanks :-) | 16:01 |
| JontheEchidna | http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopmo1544 | 16:23 |
| JontheEchidna | it's all extendy | 16:23 |
| JontheEchidna | <3 | 16:23 |
| JontheEchidna | akonaditray has artificially high popcon stats :P | 16:23 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: your use of informal strings is worse than apachelogger's :) | 16:25 |
| JontheEchidna | :) | 16:26 |
| JontheEchidna | at the least, they have proper accelerators :P | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | lol | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | love it | 16:26 |
| txwikinger | Does anything in KDE uses the virtuoso database server? | 16:53 |
| Riddell | yes | 16:54 |
| txwikinger | Ah.. then maybe I should not kill it :D | 16:54 |
| txwikinger | Interestingly apt-rdepends did not show me any dependencies | 16:55 |
| JontheEchidna | apt-cache rdepends virtuoso-minimal | 16:56 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: did you do the bluedevil MIRs? | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | yeah.. i posted them linkies to you | 17:14 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: rekonq uploaded by the way | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | bug 622243 and 622245 | 17:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622243 in bluedevil (Ubuntu) "[MIR] bluedevil" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622243 | 17:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622245 in libbluedevil (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libbluedevil" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622245 | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: \o/ | 17:14 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: how about the bluedevil FFe? | 17:14 |
| * shadeslayer points above | 17:14 | |
| shadeslayer | oh | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | FFe | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | sure why not | 17:14 |
| Riddell | a while different bug needed :) | 17:14 |
| Riddell | point out that upstream requests it | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | just bluedevil? | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | or libbluedevil as well? | 17:15 |
| Riddell | yes, one bug can count for both for this one | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | alright then | 17:16 |
| * shadeslayer gets his tools and starts hacking | 17:16 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: * Change arch from linux-any to any since Soyuz is behind the times << do i change it back to linux-any ? | 17:23 |
| shadeslayer | im not sure what linux-any does | 17:23 |
| Riddell | it's a debian-ism to stop it compiling on hurd or kfreebsd or whatever | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | also theres no tagged rc3 for libbluedevil | 17:24 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: are you packaging a new release? | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: err... bluedevil | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | so that someone else doesnt have to do it :P | 17:25 |
| Riddell | but is there a new upstream release? | 17:26 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://www.afiestas.org/bluedevil-1-0rc3-released/ << just bluedevil i think | 17:27 |
| shadeslayer | theres a 1.7 tag | 17:27 |
| Riddell | 1.7 tag? | 17:28 |
| Riddell | it says git checkout v1.0-rc3 | 17:28 |
| Riddell | anyway, great, get that packaged, then file the FFe, then we can put it on the CD | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: 1.7 tag for libbluedevil :) | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | so just bluedevil i guess | 17:28 |
| Riddell | yeah | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | and what about linux-any ? | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | do i revert back to linux-any or keep it | 17:29 |
| Riddell | keep the change | 17:30 |
| Riddell | dunno if soyuz supports it yet | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 17:30 |
| JontheEchidna | haha http://failblog.org/2010/08/20/epic-fail-photos-sign-win-4/ | 17:39 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | need some help with this cmake magic :P | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | install(TARGETS bluedevilaudioactionplugin DESTINATION ${PLUGIN_INSTALL_DIR}) << new bluedevil sourc has this in src/audio/CMakeLists.txt | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | and one of our patch does : +install(TARGETS bluedevilaction DESTINATION ${LIB_INSTALL_DIR}/bluedevil) | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | wait no | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | http://pastebin.com/wyx0b0sR : patch ( see the actionplugins/CMakeLists.txt part ) and the current file http://pastebin.com/pkvqW7QT | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | im a fool. | 17:51 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer, yofel: Unfortunately I'm forced to go to France for some sort of a wedding and I will not be around tomorrow to 4th in the worst case scenario, I think I will be available via email and jabber sometimes | 17:52 |
| Quintasan | from tomorrow* | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | ouch :( | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: we shall keep the neon lights on | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | otoh.. have fun in france :) | 17:53 |
| Quintasan | haha | 17:53 |
| Quintasan | fun on a wedding? | 17:53 |
| Quintasan | bah | 17:53 |
| Quintasan | I'm going to take a skateboard with me to avoid "OMG HOW BIG HAVE YOU GROWN" | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: i always get that :P | 17:54 |
| Quintasan | Sure it's nice in a while but not constantly from over 100 people at once :S | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | i just go to weddings to hit on girls :P | 17:54 |
| * Quintasan hopes there will be some good one | 17:55 | |
| Quintasan | ones* | 17:55 |
| shadeslayer | thats why i said... have fun | 17:55 |
| Quintasan | Dohohoho, I will do my best, I have only two options. | 17:56 |
| * shadeslayer goes omgwth | 17:59 | |
| shadeslayer | aha! | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: i just did : quilt poop -av :P | 18:01 |
| Quintasan | ... | 18:02 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: now your source got all dirty | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | haha :D | 18:02 |
| rbelem | hey apachelogger, Riddell | 18:04 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, Riddell, I just filed a bug for that patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/622871 | 18:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622871 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "startkde lacks support for plasma-mobile" [Undecided,New] | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: bug 622880 | 18:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622880 in bluedevil (Ubuntu) "FFe: bluedevil" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622880 | 18:36 |
| shadeslayer | will upload packages as soon as it finishes building here | 18:37 |
| shadeslayer | ( and im still following the -XbuildY- versioning ) | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | and bluedevil uploaded | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: Riddell asked me to file a FFe :P | 18:58 |
| shadeslayer | and bluedevil builds fine in cowbuilder btw | 18:59 |
| maco | shadeslayer: the Doctor only goes to weddings for the dancing | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | why do you drag the doctor into this :P | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | maco: ^ | 19:02 |
| ulysses | something old, something new, something old | 19:02 |
| ulysses | s/old/blue/ | 19:03 |
| maco | ulysses: you forgot borrowed | 19:03 |
| ulysses | oh, that's important! | 19:04 |
| ulysses | Geronimooooooo | 19:04 |
| sheytan | Hey guys. Anyone knows if ofirk showed up here today? ;) | 19:05 |
| maco | he /quit 23 hours ago | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: hes on gtalk | 19:12 |
| shadeslayer | hes always on gtalk actually :P | 19:12 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer, well, if he isn't here he might be busy ;) | 19:13 |
| shadeslayer | yeah :0 | 19:14 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 19:14 |
| shadeslayer | so much work and im sleepy | 19:15 |
| shadeslayer | time for Coffee | 19:15 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: ^ | 19:19 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer, yep :D | 19:19 |
| shadeslayer | your wish was fulfilled :p | 19:19 |
| sheytan | the gods of free software are listening :D | 19:20 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 19:20 |
| Riddell | hi rbelem, thanks, I'll get to that in a bit | 19:32 |
| rbelem | Riddell, cool :-) | 19:33 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: bluedevil FFe approved and moved into main, new version uploaded, your version number was wrong should be -0ubuntu1 not -0build1 | 19:37 |
| Riddell | thanks for doing that | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | i was in 2 minds about the version, but went with -0build1 .... | 19:38 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: always use -0ubuntu1 for ubuntu packages | 19:42 |
| Riddell | -Xbuild1 is when it's from debian but we need to rebuild for some reason but there are no changes compared to debian | 19:42 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 19:42 |
| sheytan | Hey guys | 20:00 |
| sheytan | we need feedback | 20:00 |
| ofirk | hi :) | 20:00 |
| Riddell | hi sheytan | 20:01 |
| sheytan | http://a.imageshack.us/img820/8484/kubuntu1.jpg this one | 20:01 |
| sheytan | http://a.imageshack.us/img375/8484/kubuntu1.jpg | 20:01 |
| sheytan | this one | 20:01 |
| sheytan | http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8484/kubuntu1.jpg | 20:01 |
| sheytan | or this one ;D | 20:01 |
| ofirk | there are only ideas, not real and final design :) | 20:01 |
| sheytan | yep ;) | 20:01 |
| sheytan | the thing is, to leave the bread crumb only on 'home >> kubuntu' and make the current visiting page with blue text, or add the current visiting [page to the bread crumb | 20:02 |
| Riddell | second one at a quick preference | 20:02 |
| sheytan | anyone else? :D | 20:03 |
| shadeslayer | second one from me as well | 20:14 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: i might as well apply for kubuntu-dev along side you i think :P | 20:32 |
| shadeslayer | i miss lex79 tho | 20:32 |
| === nuno_ is now known as slug | ||
| Riddell | shadeslayer: does http://www.bbc.co.uk/ work for you in rekonq? | 20:43 |
| * shadeslayer does looky | 20:44 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: what doesnt work specifically ? | 20:44 |
| Riddell | it doesn't load | 20:44 |
| Riddell | nothing appears | 20:44 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 20:45 |
| shadeslayer | well works for | 20:45 |
| shadeslayer | +me | 20:45 |
| Riddell | ok | 20:45 |
| shadeslayer | try disabling adblock | 20:45 |
| Riddell | maybe they just realised I haven't paid my licence fee :) | 20:45 |
| shadeslayer | there were some adblock fixes in git | 20:45 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ooh that fixed it | 20:45 |
| shadeslayer | and they havent made their way into 0.5.80 | 20:45 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 20:45 |
| shadeslayer | fixed in git ;) | 20:45 |
| Riddell | great | 20:46 |
| Riddell | I can continue not to pay my TV licence fee :) | 20:46 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 20:47 |
| shadeslayer | do you like the smooth scroll stuff? :D | 20:47 |
| Riddell | what's that? | 20:48 |
| shadeslayer | open a page > scroll | 20:48 |
| shadeslayer | the scroll isnt jerky... its smoothed out | 20:48 |
| shadeslayer | ( i think this is a feature in konqueror as well ) | 20:48 |
| Riddell | I don't notice anything especially smooth | 20:49 |
| shadeslayer | 0.5.80 right? | 20:50 |
| Riddell | yes | 20:53 |
| Riddell | I seem to have gained some default bookmarks | 20:53 |
| shadeslayer | uh oh | 20:57 |
| shadeslayer | that isnt good is it now | 20:57 |
| shadeslayer | theres a patch to fix that, i have no idea how you still have those bookmarks | 20:57 |
| shadeslayer | also, id suggest your remove your rekonqrc and .kde/share/apps/rekonq folder | 20:57 |
| shadeslayer | theres a bit of a GUI issue with the old and new config files since we moved to new XMLGUI | 20:58 |
| * shadeslayer just reviewed the logs of lex's kubuntu-dev application + grilling | 20:59 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: any idea where lex has wandered off too ? :P | 20:59 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: dunno, I've not heard from him | 21:00 |
| shadeslayer | me neither :( | 21:00 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: want to send him an e-mail? | 21:01 |
| shadeslayer | sure thing, lets find out | 21:01 |
| shadeslayer | sent him a short email... lets see what happens | 21:04 |
| JontheEchidna | Last I heard lex was on vacation | 21:25 |
| shadeslayer | yeah.. but that was a looong time ago | 21:26 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: bazinga! bug 622984 | 21:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622984 in kmymoney (Ubuntu) "FFe: Sync kmymoney 4.5-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622984 | 21:31 |
| shadeslayer | thanks to a pretty good hack by tumbleweed :P | 21:31 |
| shadeslayer | oho! | 21:44 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: seen this http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/08/23/11-04-ubuntu-developer-summit-announced/ | 21:44 |
| shadeslayer | http://uds.ubuntu.com/ << isnt that JTE and nixternal in the first slide? | 21:45 |
| shadeslayer | kubuntu sticker++ | 21:45 |
| Riddell | nope, it's shtylman and rgreening | 21:46 |
| Riddell | but they look similar to jon and nixternal :) | 21:46 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 21:47 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes.. now i see...its rgreening on the right :P | 21:47 |
| shadeslayer | anyways.. we made first slide :P | 21:47 |
| shadeslayer | kde svn-- :? | 21:50 |
| shadeslayer | :/ | 21:50 |
| Riddell | seele thinks we're all going to get swept up in a hurricane at UDS | 22:03 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: going to apply? | 22:03 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 22:03 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: already did | 22:03 |
| maco | Riddell: yes she told me that | 22:03 |
| shadeslayer | i applied the day summit.ubuntu.com said somthing about a N release :P | 22:04 |
| maco | at the party, she asked where its going to be and i said orlando and she goes "IN OCTOBER? this is why you cant have europeans planning things in the US!" | 22:04 |
| shadeslayer | heheh | 22:04 |
| Riddell | maco: 4.5 release party? | 22:04 |
| dantti_work | :D kpk with debconf works perfectly now :D | 22:05 |
| maco | apparently someone once tried to schedule a kde thing for thanksgiving weekend, which had seele explaining that flights would be $2000 and delayed and huge lines in airports and all the americans would have angry parents | 22:05 |
| maco | Riddell: yes | 22:05 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: ooh, just in time for beta freeze on thursday? | 22:05 |
| Riddell | maco: to be fair, who would expect harvest thanksgiving in November?! | 22:05 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: well I think yes, I'll try to do some minor fixes and you can grab it again from svn, then I'll finally send an email to the translators | 22:06 |
| Riddell | debfx, Quintasan, apachelogger: going to apply for some new blood at UDS? http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/08/23/11-04-ubuntu-developer-summit-announced/ | 22:06 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: lovelyness | 22:07 |
| maco | Riddell: maybe you're far enough north that winter starts in mid-november, but most of the US doesnt get winter til january | 22:07 |
| Riddell | maco: umm, january is the last month of winter, what kind of crazy country are you in? | 22:07 |
| maco | Riddell: last month? erk? first day of winter is 21 dec | 22:07 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: although i wish that UDS gets postponed by one week :P | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | first week of november would have been sweet | 22:08 |
| maco | it snows in january and february here fairly often, and december has like 2 snows surrounded by 20C weather | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | or first 2 weeks of october would have been insanely awesome | 22:08 |
| maco | wait hang on... | 22:09 |
| maco | Riddell: its warmer here in december than it is there in august sometimes! O_O | 22:09 |
| shadeslayer | i have the holidays during first 2 weeks of October due to Common Wealth Games :P | 22:09 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: which may or may not happen at all! | 22:10 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: but ill still get the holidays ;) | 22:10 |
| shadeslayer | owing to the fact that im going to college every saturday | 22:10 |
| shadeslayer | if they dont give us those holidays, we will probably have a strike and force them to give us those holdiays | 22:11 |
| nigelb | Right. Strike for holidays. How appropriate. | 22:11 |
| shadeslayer | weve had like one strike.. and due to that we got 2 weeks off :P | 22:11 |
| * nigelb lols @ "what kind of crazy country are you in" :p | 22:11 | |
| nigelb | hrm, perhaps I should sleep. Its close to 3am and I should be awake at 6. | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | and that was because 20 students were suspended because they stole the tubelight starters because they didnt want to study | 22:12 |
| nigelb | \o/ | 22:12 |
| nigelb | that is crazy | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: all of them had contacts in political parties + new channels | 22:12 |
| nigelb | you should just break the tubes instead of stealing the starters :p | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | and you can guess which department they belonged too | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: lol] | 22:13 |
| nigelb | (that makes them out for more time, just FYI) | 22:13 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: mech? | 22:13 |
| shadeslayer | yeah :P | 22:13 |
| nigelb | Always the mechs ;) | 22:13 |
| shadeslayer | so true ^_^ | 22:13 |
| nigelb | Any random engineering college, wanna find the trouble instigators, looks for the people in mech. | 22:13 |
| * shadeslayer had too much of coffee... will stay awake all night looking at KIconLoader APU | 22:14 | |
| shadeslayer | *API | 22:14 |
| nigelb | ok, since I dont have a stash of caffine, I'm going to hit the bed. | 22:14 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: i accidentally poured 4 spoons of coffee | 22:14 |
| shadeslayer | into my milk.... | 22:15 |
| nigelb | ew | 22:15 |
| nigelb | that must've ended up being bitter. | 22:15 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: nah.. i always put extra sugar to compensate :P | 22:15 |
| Riddell | rbelem: patch in bzr, presumably you'll need a way to run startkde with that mobile argument? | 22:15 |
| shadeslayer | and i like my coffee on the bitter side | 22:15 |
| * nigelb likes tea better. | 22:16 | |
| shadeslayer | anyways.. after 10 mins i was high on caffeine | 22:16 |
| neversfelde | yay, good day | 22:16 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: its 3 AM here :P | 22:16 |
| neversfelde | kdo got sponsorship by Hetzner | 22:17 |
| neversfelde | and | 22:17 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: you forget that we're int he same country? | 22:17 |
| * neversfelde isn't unemployed anymore | 22:17 | |
| shadeslayer | oh | 22:17 |
| shadeslayer | wait | 22:17 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: bad tab complete :/ | 22:17 |
| shadeslayer | was addressed to neversfelde :P | 22:17 |
| nigelb | ok, thats a first | 22:17 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: go sleep :p | 22:18 |
| shadeslayer | cant :( | 22:18 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: what's kdo? what's Hetzner? what's the job? | 22:18 |
| shadeslayer | toe+caffeine kick | 22:18 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: kdo is kubuntu-de.org and Hetzner is a big provider from germany and they support us for 1 year with a server | 22:18 |
| Riddell | cool | 22:19 |
| neversfelde | and the job is in the alps :) | 22:19 |
| Riddell | ooh, good for canoeing :) | 22:22 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: Inn and Mangfall :) | 22:23 |
| neversfelde | you're welcome | 22:23 |
| neversfelde | so if I ever get a flat till next wednesday :/ | 22:23 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: hopefully you can still come to UDS? http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/08/23/11-04-ubuntu-developer-summit-announced/ | 22:25 |
| ryanakca | ScottK: Let me know then you have more kolab stuff | 22:25 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: 3.5 packages still to do for kolab no? | 22:25 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: I am afraid no holidays for another six month :( | 22:25 |
| Riddell | fooey | 22:25 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: still have internet access for Kubuntu time? | 22:26 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: I hope so, I will only have a netbook available, but you gave me access to your server | 22:27 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Not sure. I was referring to kolabd / dovecot + kolabd. What needs doing for 3.5 packages? I finish work Friday and will have next week off before starting Uni, I can add it to my TODO list for then if you want... | 22:28 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: kolabsys have packages for KDE PIM from KDE 3.5 which is the PIM version recommended to enterprise users of Kolab still (and presumably users of other starfleet vessels too) | 22:31 |
| Riddell | it would be nice to have them reviewed and put into universe | 22:31 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: OK | 22:31 |
| Riddell | review Kubuntu meeting logs to get the location I think | 22:32 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Will do | 22:36 |
| neversfelde | I upgraded a machine of a friend of mine to LTS, we still have serious Akonadi problems | 22:40 |
| Riddell | what happened neversfelde? | 22:46 |
| rbelem | cool! thanks Riddell :-) | 22:47 |
| shadeslayer | heh.. ubuntu pastebin got a overhall ^_^ | 22:47 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: ? | 22:47 |
| rbelem | rbelem, in the xsession desktop file | 22:47 |
| * rbelem kicks rbelem | 22:48 | |
| rbelem | Riddell, ^ | 22:48 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: I did not test your server for packaging, but looks good. So I will still be availabe. In Germany it unfortunatly lasts a few weeks to get yor connection back, so I will be a little bit restricted | 22:49 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I'll apply, however I think I will be queued until I'm 18 :) | 22:51 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: that computer has been reinstalled since so I'll need to recreate your account, just say when you need it | 22:56 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: rekonq looks weird when the bookmarks toolbar is enabled: http://imagebin.ca/view/sAudgW.html | 22:56 |
| debfx | especially when you don't have bookmarks | 22:56 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: new config files | 22:57 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: k, I will be off for a few days, but back mid sep, I'll ask you if I need it | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | delete your .kde/apps/rekonq folder | 22:57 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: thanks | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | and .kde/share/config/rekonqrc file | 22:57 |
| debfx | do I have to delete my config files on every updated? :O | 22:58 |
| shadeslayer | no | 22:58 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: see we switched to XMLGUI | 22:58 |
| shadeslayer | and that is incompatible with older config files | 22:58 |
| debfx | well, then convert my configs :p | 22:59 |
| shadeslayer | idk how to :P | 22:59 |
| shadeslayer | ill put in a word with adjam :) | 22:59 |
| debfx | clearing MainWindow.State in rekonqrc should work | 23:02 |
| * shadeslayer notes that in TODO list | 23:02 | |
| debfx | shadeslayer: thanks | 23:04 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: if i forget remind me till i fix it :P | 23:04 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: I added a fix into debconf-kde to work better with KPK (so repackaging it is good), I'm going home now and at home I'll try to fix a few things with kpk and it will be ok to be packaged for now :D | 23:06 |
| Riddell | great, thanks dantti_work | 23:07 |
| dantti_work | yw | 23:07 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: new patch for kdebase in kde-packager list, its a security vulnerability | 23:08 |
| JontheEchidna | The libdebconf-kde packaging is ready for an MIR (symbols file and all that jazz) but I haven't gotten around to doing it yet... | 23:08 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ssh | 23:09 |
| Riddell | bluedevil in main and on the CD | 23:32 |
| ScottK | ryanakca: WIll do. THanks. | 23:47 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: is kmymoney sync good to go? | 23:54 |
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