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pittiGood morning07:23
and471morning all :)07:42
kiwinotemorning and47107:44
and471hey kiwinote07:44
and471mvo, you are back!! :)08:18
mvohey and471!08:19
and471mvo, I will let you ctach up with the backlog first, but when you are ready, I have a question about app-install-data :)08:19
and471*cacth08:19
and471*catch08:19
mvoand471: heh :) sure, just ask, I am reading mail currently, but I will reply async ;)08:20
and471mvo, oh okay :)08:20
and471mvo, currently the fretsonfire-game.desktop file in app-install-data points to the package fretsonfire-game (as this is the package in which it is contained), however we want the fretsonfire-game-desktop file to point towards the fretsonfire matapackage ('fretsonfire') instead - is there a way to do this?08:21
mvoand471: yes, there is a ~mvo/archive-crawler/mvo that contains a data/rename.cfg file that can be used for this, I can do that now08:23
and471mvo, ah thankyou very much08:23
mvoand471: done, will be part of the next data update08:30
and471mvo, thankyou very much :)08:30
and471vish, ^ fretsonfire08:30
mvoand471: yw :)08:32
and471mvo, just so I understand, that change should mean that software center will show the description of the metapackage?08:34
mvoand471: yes08:36
and471ok thanks08:36
mvoand471: is that not good ?08:36
and471mvo, no no that is good, I just wanted to check I had understood it correctly08:36
mvook :)08:36
and471mvo, sorry how rude of me, how was your vacation? :)08:45
vishand471: neat thanks.. :)08:46
vish \o/ mvo is back!08:46
pittihey mvo, welcome back!08:46
vishand471: had you filed a separate bug for that in frets?08:46
and471vish, no, so all is okay now08:47
vishand471: the same way mvo had fixed the firefox bug too.. the one you marked invalid.. ;)08:47
and471vish, well I looked and it had been fixed already, you can mark fix released if you want :)08:47
vishand471: already done ;p08:47
and471hehe08:48
vishand471: bah! we could have had two bugs in frets as fixed ;p08:48
and471ah wel...08:48
vishand471: why was the cups task closed? the bug you just closed..08:49
and471vish, so just to check, for this merge request, do I need to subscribe the sponsors to the bug? https://code.launchpad.net/~and471/ubuntu/maverick/fretsonfire/fix-599525/+merge/3335608:49
and471vish, bilalakthar said that it was in gtk+2.008:49
and471stupid internets broke again...08:49
vishand471: oh.. better to have commented that.. otherwise i have to read bug to know that ;p08:49
and471vish, sorry, I will do, it was just because bilal said 'This is not in CUPS' but I will do08:50
vishand471: thanks :)08:50
and471vish, so just to check, for this merge request, do I need to subscribe the sponsors to the bug? https://code.launchpad.net/~and471/ubuntu/maverick/fretsonfire/fix-599525/+merge/3335608:51
vishand471: i still dont know whats wrong in doing that.. tumbleweed thinks otherwise.. :)08:52
and471ok, I won't then :)08:52
vishand471: and gese-r thought we can subscribe both too.. so might just be each sponsor's pref08:52
and471yeah08:52
and471vish, well since tumbleweed sponsored my last upload, I will be nice and do what he asked :)08:53
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seb128hey09:13
and471hey seb12809:14
and471oh mvo, nearly forgot, I started some work on the new update-manager (software-updater) and myself, kiwinote, mpt and devildante were discussing it09:16
mvoand471: aha, interessting09:16
and471I figured that it would be better to start afresh because the infrastructure is very different (one window that morphs) and then copy some stuff from the old update-manager in09:17
mvoand471: ok, that should be fine09:17
kiwinotehi mvo! hope you had a good week?09:17
and471mvo, but we wanted to wait until you got back, to dicuss it09:17
mvokiwinote: a very good one, thanks :)09:17
and471mvo, when you have some time lp:~and471/+junk/software-updater09:18
mvoand471: starting afresh gives us the chance to get rid of some baggage that accumulated over the years and focus more strongly on tests/TDD09:18
and471mvo, yup, I have started with TDD, already got most of them in :)09:19
mvoand471: sweet09:19
mvoand471: there was some discussion about updates at last uds and one vision that was discussed was to apply them all unattended. this requires a work in the backend to ensure that they are installed in a secure and unobtrusive way, but that would be the ideal. it updates without the user noticing09:20
mvoand471: of course that requires that its possible to interrupt the upgrade on shutdown etc, so some thinking is required how to do that best09:21
mvoand471: but there will be people who do not want to use it, so having a improved updater is still worthwhile09:21
mvoand471: glanced over the code, nice work!09:22
and471mvo, thanks :)09:23
and471mvo, I think when it starts t take shape, we would separate the pages out into different files, but that is the basic framework in there09:23
* mvo nods09:23
and471mvo, so basically the reason I stopped on it was because I wanted to know whether we were going to go ahead with a 'rewrite' and also I don't really know about the backend stuff :)09:25
and471mvo, are you going to be working on it for natty?09:25
mvoand471: I'm not entirely sure yet, but its not unlikely. its definitely something we will discuss at uds09:26
and471mvo, ok09:42
seb128hey and471 mvo09:43
mvohey seb12809:44
seb128mvo, did you have a nice week away from work?09:47
mptGood morning mvo!09:47
* mpt tries out lp:~mmcg069/software-center/visual-overhaul09:47
and471mpt, is it good? (screenshot please :) )09:51
mptand471, http://imgur.com/i70vh10:12
and471mpt, nice10:12
mvoseb128: yes, *very* nice10:12
mvohey mpt10:12
and471mpt, I don't know about the significance of the clouds - look a but ubuntuone10:13
and471*bit10:13
mptyeah10:13
mptIt's a similar idea, the software you can install is "in the cloud", but possibly a bit too similar10:15
mvompt: is that branch based on the feedback the design discussed?10:15
mvoeh, the design team provided I mean :)10:15
mptmvo, no, they don't have time10:17
mvoaha, ok10:18
vishmvo: hi , when you get time could you look into lp:~ilidrissi.amine/update-manager/software-updater-rename  and   lp:~ilidrissi.amine/update-notifier/renaming , we are nearing UIF, tick tock.. ;)10:55
hyperaireh? update-notifier is being renamed?10:56
vishhyperair: hey!10:57
hyperairvish: hey! =)10:57
and471hyperair, yup11:04
hyperairwhy so?11:04
* hyperair thought the name was pretty okay11:05
and471mpt: ^ could you explain?11:05
and471or vish?11:07
vishhyperair: it is part of a larger plan! :)11:08
hyperairlarger plan?11:08
vishhyperair: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdateHandling11:08
dpmhiya seb128, do you happen to know who maintains computer-janitor these days? I'd like them to have a look at bug 612493 - it's a single line change and it would make the application finally appear translated.11:27
ubot2Launchpad bug 612493 in computer-janitor (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Computer Janitor regression: UI strings not marked for translation (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61249311:27
seb128dpm, mvo?11:28
seb128dpm, or nobody11:29
dpmseb128, ok thanks, I'll ping him when he's back from lunch11:29
vishdpm: i thin its barry warsaw , or similar..11:29
vishthink*11:29
dpmyeah, I saw that as well, he's the contact for the upstream project in LP, but tbh I'm not sure at all anyone is maintaining it right now11:30
chrisccoulsonwow, the build-depends for gnome-power-manager have gotten pretty bug11:30
chrisccoulsons/bug/big/11:30
seb128dpm, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~computer-janitor-hackers/computer-janitor/trunk11:30
and471vish, fretsonfire uploaded :)11:30
seb128dpm, barry has been doing the recent work it seems11:30
seb128dpm, talk to mvo or barry11:31
vishand471: yay!11:31
dpmI'll do that, thanks seb128 and vish11:31
vishnp.. :)11:31
and471mvo, will the fretsonfire thing be fixed by next upload of archive-crawler or app-install-data?11:34
vishand471: have you filed a bug for removal of anjal from the archive?11:38
and471vish, no, I spoke to a guy about it and he said he would do it all11:38
and471vish, he was maintainer of moblin stuff11:39
vishand471: hmm, well , if you close the existing bug too, no one is gonna track it! ;)11:40
and471vish, I think he opened a separate bug...11:40
* vish checks11:40
and471https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anjal/+bug/62166011:40
ubot2Launchpad bug 621660 in anjal (Ubuntu) "Please remove anjal from maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]11:40
vishyup.. :)11:41
and471vish, so what should I do? open up the bug again?11:41
vishand471: nap , 621220 is fine.. just wanted to make sure there was a bug.. :)11:42
vishnah*11:42
and471ok11:42
bilalakhtarhmm11:43
and471vish, maybe don't mark fretsonfire bug as released, as we are still waiting on the upload from app-install-data11:48
and471vish, at the moment it will still display the same thing in SC11:49
vishand471: mv-o will upload it with the next release , ideally that bug is about two issues , the main focus was description though :)11:50
and471vish, ok its your choice, just don't want to get to maverick and something didn't happen and bug is still apparent11:50
* and471 is going to go11:51
and471see ya everyone11:51
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rodrigo_hi13:35
nessitamvo: are you around?13:36
mvonessita: yes13:36
nessitamvo: hello! do you have a few minutes to talk about SSO dbus service? we need to sightly modify the signature of the signals13:37
nessitamvo: and I wanted to tell you so nothing get broken13:38
mvonessita: ok, what will change/needs changing?13:38
rodrigo_hmm, seb128 not working today?13:38
nessitamvo: the login_and_do_all_the_magic method my signals one of the: CredentialsError, CredentialsFound and AuthorizationDenied13:39
mvorodrigo_: he was around earlier13:39
rodrigo_mvo, ah, ok13:39
nessitamvo: s/my/might/13:39
nessitamvo: they all will pass as first argument the app_name (so you can check within your application if the signals was meant to be send to you)13:40
kenvandinehey seb12813:40
rodrigo_hey seb128 :)13:40
seb128hey kenvandine rodrigo_13:40
nessitamvo: and the CredentialsError will also pass the error13:40
seb128hey nessita13:40
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mptmvo, hi, are you planning on merging any changes to the buy-stuff code in the next couple of hours?13:40
* rodrigo_ lets kenvandine first turn with seb12813:41
nessitahey seb128! the MIR for mocker is ready (just FYI)13:41
* kenvandine doesn't need anything :)13:41
seb128nessita, excellent13:41
nessitamvo: so, alecu will be sending an email with these details, but I wanted to let you know first13:41
rodrigo_kenvandine, ah, ok13:41
mvompt: I haven't looked at anything pending, but there is nothing from me yet, but there is a request to change some of the server interaction - why do you ask?13:41
seb128mvo, do you know where language selector writes its changes?13:42
mptmvo, so that I'd know whether a screencast I did now was about to become out of date13:42
mvonessita: ok, that should be no problem, a mail is still much appreciated. once the mail is out I can change it easily13:42
rodrigo_seb128, so, about bug #615874, so I just submit the addition of the U1 email, right?13:42
ubot2Launchpad bug 615874 in evolution (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Add Ubuntu One email to Evolution fresh install (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61587413:42
seb128rodrigo_, oh right, that one13:42
seb128rodrigo_, yes, though I don't like it much but seems you guys insist on it13:42
nessitamvo: great!13:42
mvompt: shoud be fine for the time being, certainly until the meeting :)13:42
rodrigo_seb128, sorry I couldn't look at it on Friday, I was travelling13:42
mvoseb128: the local or the global one?13:43
seb128rodrigo_, no worry13:43
seb128mvo, local, ie for the user running iut13:43
rodrigo_seb128, well, not that I like it much, but it's an easy way for announcing U1 without spamming too much13:43
seb128it got german put before english and doing a dnd from english us before german still doesn't fix it13:43
rodrigo_seb128, ok, I'll submit the patch then13:43
seb128I just want to rm whatever it did13:43
seb128rodrigo_, without considering non english users13:43
seb128rodrigo_, thanks13:44
mvoseb128: iirc it writes to ~/.profile, could you have a look there? don't rm the full file ;)13:44
mvoseb128: and .dmrc13:44
seb128export LANGUAGE="fr_FR:fr:de:de_AT:de_BE:de_CH:de_DE:de_LI:de_LU:en"13:45
seb128in profile13:45
seb128mvo, thanks13:45
seb128export LANGUAGE="fr_FR:fr:en_US:de:de_AT:de_BE:de_CH:de_DE:de_LI:de_LU:en"13:45
seb128in fact before the change I was doing13:46
seb128language selector is a piece of crap software13:46
* seb128 hugs mvo13:46
seb128I got it cleaned now13:46
mvoseb128: I will simply claim that that started after I handed it over ;)13:47
seb128hehe13:47
rodrigo_seb128, right, that's why I tried with Danilo's intltool patch13:52
rodrigo_seb128, but I'll be sending the patch upstream13:52
mptmvo, how do I make Ubuntu forget that I've purchased Hello X? :-)13:52
mvompt: not at all, but I can do that for you :)13:53
mvompt: did you work against staging or ec2?13:53
mptmvo, how would I tell?13:54
mvompt: if you did not change anything its staging, I will make it forget about the purchase, hold on a minute or two13:54
seb128rodrigo_, I would prefer that but it's late for this cycle13:55
mvompt: its a hot seller, I see a lot of people purchasing it :)13:55
rodrigo_seb128, yeah13:55
mvompt: https://staging.launchpad.net is doing a code update, I can not change the subscription state for that currently :/13:57
mptmvo, ok. So I have just tested the "you already purchased it but it didn't install properly" case, and it's pretty ropey13:58
mptmvo, is it easy to test against ec2 instead? (Do I need my own ec2 account or something?)14:01
mvompt: the ec2 one will also try to talk to staging.launchpad.net and if that is down it will not work14:01
mvompt: so we need to wait a little bit unitl that code update is finished14:01
mvompt: in the meantime we can improve this failure case14:02
mptmvo, as in, right now?14:04
mvompt: only if you have time14:06
mptmvo, yep, that would be faster than e-mail/Launchpad ping-pong14:07
mptmvo, the first thing I notice is that for something you can buy, the software list view item has a "More Info" button, it doesn't have an "Install" button, but it doesn't have a "Buy…" button either14:08
mptIs that deliberate?14:08
mvompt: not deliberate, just a missing feature to show/wire-in the button14:10
mptmvo, ok, bug 622700, that's low importance14:12
ubot2Launchpad bug 622700 in software-center (Ubuntu) ""Buy…" button missing in software list view (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62270014:12
faganmpt: is there software to buy in yet?14:13
* fagan isnt on maverick at the moment14:13
mptfagan, not quite yet14:13
fagansounds like fun though when it gets in14:13
mptmvo, the big one is bug 61881714:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 618817 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Payment screen opens in a separate window (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61881714:13
kiwinotedavmor2: re your bug, "sudo update-software-center" should allow you to use s-c14:17
rodrigo_seb128, ok, package branch for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/615874 updated, so please review and merge, please14:17
ubot2Launchpad bug 615874 in evolution (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Add Ubuntu One email to Evolution fresh install (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [Wishlist,In progress]14:17
seb128rodrigo_, thanks14:17
seb128rodrigo_, was the version translatable using gettext ready btw? I just saw your updates from friday on the merge request14:20
davmor2kiwinote: that worked thanks14:20
davmor2mvo: ^14:20
rodrigo_seb128, well, I am not sure it fully worked, but I think it was14:20
seb128rodrigo_, do you feel it's ready or do you think it's better to wait next cycle and go with the easy one now?14:20
rodrigo_seb128, without danilo's comments, I can't be sure, so it's safer to wait now I guess14:20
seb128rodrigo_, ok, it's my opinion as well, let's do that14:21
mvompt: ok14:21
rodrigo_seb128, although if danilo confirms it works, today or during this week, would it be too late to add it?14:21
mvokiwinote: just merged your no-dbus branch, many thanks for finding that bug :)14:21
kiwinotemvo: great, thanks14:22
seb128rodrigo_, we can think about it but it feels late, now is time to focus on stabilizing what we have not on adding new codepaths and debug those14:22
mvodavmor2: see above, if you bzr pull in trunk the lucid version should be more happy14:22
rodrigo_seb128, yes, ok14:22
mvodavmor2: eh, the maverick one I mean14:22
seb128rodrigo_, btw do you know offhand if it's easy to add a signature to evo by default?14:22
rodrigo_seb128, I'll send a proper patch upstream, so for next cycle we should get it for free then14:22
rodrigo_seb128, hmm, I think it should, let me check14:23
mptmvo, "ok" as in it's fixed? :-)14:23
seb128rodrigo_, thanks14:23
davmor2mvo: I already thanked kiwinote but thanks :)14:23
mvompt: "ok" as in "I see what I can do"14:24
mvompt: (sorry, there is a bunch of other stuff, including some backend changes that are required too)14:25
mvompt: just merged your fit-and-finish branch, many thanks!14:26
mptmvo, thanks. I couldn't work out how to get "Featured Applications" to show up as "Featured" in the pathbutton.14:27
mvompt: its not showing up in the pathbar at all right, now, correct? and you want it to show up?14:28
mvompt: or do you mean when clicking on "all" ?14:29
rodrigo_seb128, see /apps/evolution/mail/signatures gconf entry14:29
rodrigo_seb128, I guess you can provide some default there14:30
mptmvo, when clicking on "All", you get "Get Software > Featured Applications". It should be just "Get Software > Featured". (For example, we might feature screensavers or fonts etc in future.)14:30
mvompt: ok, let me fix that14:30
* mvo fixes some failing tests first14:31
seb128rodrigo_, thanks14:31
mptmvo, and the same for "New Applications" -> "What’s New"14:31
kiwinotempt: is http://imagebin.org/110961 the character you want?14:48
kiwinotempt: I ask because it looks a little titch misplaced14:49
mptkiwinote, yep, that's it. It probably looks misplaced because the button is missing the usual left+right inner padding.14:51
kiwinoteok, thanks14:51
bilalakhtarkenvandine: could you please have a look at bug #620326 ?14:54
ubot2Launchpad bug 620326 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Wrong (hardcoded) width for Play button in non-english language (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62032614:54
alecuseb128, hi, I've been working on the DBus interface for the SSO client. We've found a but in the DBus api, and we'd like to propose a fix14:56
alecuseb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client/+bug/62137714:56
ubot2Launchpad bug 621377 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "SSOCredentials signals must always pass the app_name (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Triaged]14:56
alecu*found a bug14:57
seb128bilalakhtar, kenvandine: don't upload rb14:57
alecuseb128, should we ask for an exception for it?14:57
kenvandineseb128, ok, got something queued up?14:57
seb128kenvandine, yes, what is commited and in the desktop team ppa14:58
seb128kenvandine, it just breaks indicator-sound so I'm waiting for ronoc to debug its side14:58
kenvandineseb128, can you look bug  620326?14:58
ubot2Launchpad bug 620326 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Wrong (hardcoded) width for Play button in non-english language (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62032614:58
kenvandineand maybe incorporate the fix?14:58
seb128kenvandine, I will when I work on the upload14:59
kenvandineok14:59
kenvandinethx14:59
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seb128np14:59
seb128alecu, can you check with mvo for the impact on software-center?15:03
seb128alecu, I'm fine with the change but you need to sync uploads if that breaks software-center15:03
alecuseb128, yes, we've already told mvo about this possible change.15:04
seb128mvo, ^15:04
alecuseb128, ok, we'll make sure the uploads are syncd15:04
seb128thanks15:04
bilalakhtarthanks seb12815:04
alecu thank you15:04
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chrisccoulsonvish - did you want something sponsoring for g-s-t?15:19
vishchrisccoulson: yeah, bug 529744 , thanks :)15:20
ubot2Launchpad bug 529744 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "When creating a new user, "Shortname" should really be "Username" . (affects: 1) (heat: 25)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52974415:20
mptAh, kiwinote, you're so fast15:27
kiwinotehehe, I'll look at that installing purchase one too15:27
kiwinotempt: do we continue to use three dots behind installing, or do you want real ellipsises there?15:28
mvoalecu: the change should be straightforward, will you send me a mail with the summary please? just so that it does not get lost?15:29
mvokiwinote: nice!15:29
mptkiwinote, real ellipses everywhere :-)15:29
seb128mvo, should we sync an upload with you?15:29
seb128mvo, or should sso just be updated and you will catch up with it?15:30
mvoseb128: I can catch up15:30
kiwinotempt: ok, will do. Just need to make sure that I find all the tests to update as well ;)15:30
seb128mvo, thanks15:30
seb128mvo, I will let you know when I sponsor those changes15:31
mptkiwinote, in .ui files it's … and in Python strings it's \u202615:31
kiwinotethanks15:31
mvompt: do you have the terminal output from your screencast? I would like to check if its not a issue with staging. there should be a bunch of "title_changes … text on the terminal or in ~/.xsession-errors"15:32
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mptmvo, sorry, I restarted since then15:34
mptAnd now staging is back up so I get a different result15:35
alecumvo, I'll send the API that changes in an email, plus I'm setting up a wikipage with the full api15:37
mvoalecu: cool, thanks15:39
mvompt: could you please pastebin the output on the terminal for me?15:40
mvompt: its possible that staging is pretty outdated15:52
pittichrisccoulson: ah, thanks for g-p-m; was that the reason for those "bad atom" failures?15:52
mvompt: the whats new/featured stuff is updated in trunk now (btw)15:52
chrisccoulsonpitti - yeah, that should fix those now15:52
pittichrisccoulson: it'd explain why I didn't get that on my laptop then15:52
pittiseb128 mentioned the other day, but I never tested it on non-xrandr hardware, so I hadn't seen it15:53
pittithanks!15:53
chrisccoulsonpitti - i don't get it on mine either, but a user came on to #ubuntu-devel over the weekend and we debugged it there15:53
chrisccoulsonso i'm assuming it will fix it ;)15:53
mvokiwinote: nice work on the getting-the-small-things-right branch, much appreciated15:57
kiwinotemvo: thanks :)15:58
bilalakhtarpitti: around?16:04
and471tremolux, hey16:08
and471nessita, hey, I am doing some tests with the framework that you use for ubuntu-sso-client, but I have hit a hurdle, wondered whether you have any ideas16:08
nessitaand471: shooy16:09
nessitashoot*16:09
and471nessita, in a test, I check whether clicking a button launches 'software-properties-gtk' but parsing the 'ps -A' output16:09
and471nessita, but to launch software-properties-gtk, I have to actually run 'gksudo software-properties-gtk'16:10
and471however because of that 'xvfb-run' the tester can't see the gksudo dialog16:10
kklimondamvo: could you take a look at bug 622489 when you have some time?16:10
ubot2Launchpad bug 622489 in update-manager (Ubuntu) ""Exception: No date tag found" in ubuntu-support-status (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62248916:11
and471nessita, so they can't put in their password so the test fails16:11
and471nessita, I managed to get around this by running the tests with sudo16:11
mvokklimonda: yes16:11
and471nessita, but then I can start software-properties-gtk becuase it gives me an error about not having an X display16:11
and471RuntimeError: could not open display16:12
kiwinotempt, mvo: just fyi, I ran a script to list all pkgs containing recommended addons and suggested addons using the current addons branch (takes 40mins to run the script..). Output is available at http://ubuntuone.com/p/DdF/ . There are quite a few 'interesting' things in there.16:14
nessitaand471: no no no no no nooooooooo!16:14
nessita:-)16:14
mptkiwinote, interesting things like "Server Error (500)"? :-)16:14
and471kiwinote, try pastebin.ubuntu.com = it is pretty now :)16:15
and471nessita, huh?16:15
kiwinoteand471: it doesn't accept files of 20k lines..16:15
and471kiwinote, that sucks16:15
and471kiwinote, but it is pretty :)16:15
kiwinoteand471: but yes, it does look nice now!16:16
nessitaand471: your tests should be absolutely isolated from other dependecies. So, how do you run the  software-properties-gtk within your program?16:16
and471nessita, ah, well we use the subprocess module16:16
and471nessita, when a settings button is clicked, subprocess.call is used16:17
nessitaand471: then you should mokeypatch subprocess.call, basically like this:16:17
and471nessita, sorry subprocess.Popen, but it is basically the same16:18
nessitaand471: let me show you a snippet16:18
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nessitaand471: are you using tiwsted.trial.unittest.TestCAse?16:21
and471nessita, yup16:21
kiwinotempt, mvo: hm, perhaps http://bit.ly/ay9Eat works instead16:22
and471kiwinote, the link worked for me, but I have been getting 500's for other ubuntuone stuff this week16:22
kiwinoteand471: ah, good to know. First time I've u1 here, so wasn't quite sure how stable it was16:23
kiwinote..I've used..16:23
nessitaand471: this snippet http://nessita.pastebin.com/FGb9Ukvt makes your code independant ofsubprocess.Popen16:24
nessitaand471: you know subprocess.Popen works, so no need to exercise it16:25
mptthanks kiwinote16:26
and471nessita, sorry pressed wrong power switch on wall...16:26
and471nessita, the rest you can guess :)16:26
nessitaand471: jeje let me repaste what I said16:28
nessitaand471: this snippet http://nessita.pastebin.com/FGb9Ukvt makes your code independant ofsubprocess.Popen16:28
nessitaand471: you know subprocess.Popen works, so no need to exercise it16:28
and471nessita, cool thanks16:28
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and471nessita, so self.patch replaces the function Popen in the module subprocess with your lambda function?16:29
nessitaand471: exactly, and automatically restore it at tearDown time16:30
and471nessita, ah okay thankyou :)16:30
nessitayou're welcome!16:30
seb128pitti, did you try to restart the retracers?16:35
pittiseb128: no, I didn't; I thought it was you16:35
seb128pitti, just wondering why I get an email about one of those crashing16:35
pittiI wondered as well16:35
seb128hum ok16:35
seb128pitti, there was a box restart apparently16:37
seb128pitti, not sure why that would make those run with the lock being on disk though16:37
seb128but I guess that's it16:37
and471nessita, why do you assert that self._called is not None first?16:38
mptmvo, tremolux: I have a couple of questions that I would have asked if my mic was working :-)16:40
mvompt: sure, just ask them now16:41
mptmvo, what are the prospects for the add-ons branch?16:42
mptIs it still a FFe candidate, or will it have to wait for Natty?16:43
mvompt: very good chances for 10.10 , some complains about the fixme that I wanted to look at16:44
pittiseb128: I think I added a @reboot cron job to clean those16:45
pittiseb128: normally we do want this, since a shutdown doesn't terminate the retracers properly16:45
seb128pitti, so that explains it, thanks16:45
seb128right16:45
* pitti hugs seb12816:45
mpttremolux, do you think you can take a swing at bug 426999? It's required devildante to temporarily disable navigation to add-on pages in the add-ons branch (otherwise we end up with a pathbutton like "Get Software > Search Results > package A > package B")16:45
ubot2Launchpad bug 426999 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Navigating to item via search doesn't show its department/subsection (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 15)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42699916:45
* seb128 hugs pitti16:46
nessitaand471: for completeness sake, you can avoid it since you're not subscripting self._called16:47
ronocpitti: hey any chance you could bump this up the build queue -> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa/+build/193095016:48
and471nessita, ok thanks16:48
tremoluxmpt: let me take another look at it, it's not straightforward but maybe there's a good way to tackle it16:52
and471<tremolux> mpt: let me take another look at it, it's not straightforward but maybe there's a good way to tackle it16:55
mptthanks and47116:58
and471np16:58
mptmvo, have you received any new icons from Dan Fore?16:58
mvompt: I don't think so17:01
mptmvo, ok, we were working on some last week, I'll mail him again17:01
DBOping pitti17:01
mvompt: thanks17:02
mvompt: I'm off to dinner for some minutes17:02
mptok17:02
pittironoc: done17:03
DBOping chrisccoulson (you will do fine too17:03
tremoluxand471: hiya!  so, you pasted my reply to mpt, sorry I'm a little unclear; are you saying you are thinking to look at that bug?17:03
pittiDBO: about to go to dinner, BBIAB17:03
chrisccoulsonDBO, on a call atm, is it urgent?17:03
ronocpitti: thx a mill!17:03
mpttremolux, I got disconnected so he was repeating it17:03
DBOchrisccoulson, ping me when you have a free moment? :)17:03
DBOchrisccoulson, far from urgent17:03
and471tremolux, yup as mpt said :)17:03
tremoluxmpt, and471: ahh, thanks!  :)17:03
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and471np17:04
DBOpitti, yeah I realized a little late that it was dinner time for you, sorry :)17:04
kiwinotetremolux: just fyi, I had looked into that a little bit back and I think I recall that it wouldn't quite work out for all cases without some major-ish changes. I can't recall precisely which cases wouldn't work, but it had something to do with the available pane having categories and the appdetails pane not having them.17:05
kiwinoteinstalled pane that last one should be17:06
kiwinotetremolux: but I would love to stand corrected of course ;)17:06
tremoluxkiwinote: thanks, yeah, when I looked at it a while back I didn't see a way to do it cleanly17:09
kiwinotetremolux: yeah, the search thing by itself would work fine, but by the time you have the renavigate if we open s-c again and the add-ons stuff, then we have to have signals all over the place17:12
kiwinotetremolux: anyway, good to see you back again! Hope you enjoyed your vacation?17:13
tremoluxkiwinote: thanks!  oh yes, it was wonderful, two weeks in Paris  :D17:13
tremoluxkiwinote: I wanted to never leave  :)17:14
kiwinoteah, nice!17:14
kiwinotehehe17:14
tremoluxkiwinote: now I am trying to catch up on all the awesome work on software-center that you guys did  :)17:15
kiwinotetremolux: yeah, in two weeks a lot can happen :)17:15
kiwinotetremolux: most of it happened in the week that mvo was still around though ;)17:16
tremoluxkiwinote: it's awesome, thanks a lot for all of your great work17:16
kiwinotetremolux: np, it's a pleasure to be able to work with such a great team of people17:16
* and471 agrees17:17
tremoluxkiwinote, and471: ditto!17:17
chrisccoulsonDBO, back17:20
DBOso you are aware of the crashes in gnome-power-manager yes?17:20
chrisccoulsonDBO - yeah, that should be fixed now17:21
DBOchrisccoulson, seems I am too late them :P17:21
DBOthen*17:21
and471bratsche, I just posted some info on bug 603479, hope this helps17:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 603479 in software-center (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Menu items not insensitive/disabled after application start (affects: 1) (heat: 78)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60347917:21
chrisccoulsonDBO - is it the unhandled BadAtom crash?17:21
DBOchrisccoulson, yes I am downloading the package now to inspect the fix used17:22
chrisccoulsonDBO - the patch is on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62771117:22
ubot2Gnome bug 627711 in general "gnome-power-manager crashed with signal 5 in _XError on systems without XBACKLIGHT" [Critical,Unconfirmed]17:22
DBOchrisccoulson, okay never mind then, I like the patch used there more than mine17:23
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DBOchrisccoulson, thank you for the update17:23
chrisccoulsonyw17:23
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chrisccoulsonvish - ok, string change for gst uploaded ;)17:25
vishchrisccoulson: \o/  thanks :)17:25
bratscheand471: Yeah, I'm not sure how to deal with that.  Why would you set a menuitem's sensitivity when the menu is activated?  That seems a little strange to me.17:28
bratscheand471: I mean, ideally I should be able to just deal with it.. but I'm not really sure how.17:28
and471bratsche, maybe there is a better way it can be done in SC, but it is so we can say make the 'Install' item sensitive when the user has already selected a package in the treeview17:41
and471bratsche, and vice versa17:41
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emacs_noobanyone knows why setting "desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowsmanager" to my WM of choice doesn't work? when it was metacity there, it worked, if i change it back to MC it works, but it doesn't want to fire up my other WM18:19
glatzorevening mvo18:26
glatzormvo, still around?18:26
and471emacs_noob, have you tried #ubuntu? this channel is more for development :)18:28
devildantekiwinote, mpt, mvo: hi :)18:32
emacs_nooband471: #ubuntu don't know18:36
and471emacs_noob, sorry then18:36
emacs_noob#ubuntu-devel don't know either....18:37
emacs_noobbummer18:37
emacs_noobi don't want metacity18:37
emacs_noobbut i still wish to have gnome18:37
emacs_nooboh well18:37
emacs_noobgonna hack up my xinitrc18:37
pittigood night everyone18:37
emacs_noobthought there was a "proper" way, but it doesn't work18:37
seb128pitti, 'night18:38
mpthi devildante18:40
devildantempt, kiwinote, mvo: it seems FFE got accepted ;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/61729718:41
ubot2Launchpad bug 617297 in software-center (Ubuntu) "FFe for the lp:~ilidrissi.amine/software-center/addons branch (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:41
mptrock18:41
bcurtiswxwith todays GPM update, I now have to give gnome-power-backlight-helper permission to run _every_ time I dim or brighten my laptop18:43
devildante'n'roll :p18:43
devildantebcurtiswx: happened to me too, but it doesn't seem to occur anymore. instead, it crashes :p18:44
devildantebcurtiswx: lemme update before confirming18:44
bcurtiswxdevildante: OK18:45
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mclasencaused by a policy file thats errouneously shipped in the tarball18:45
seb128chrisccoulson, ^18:45
bcurtiswxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/482496/18:45
seb128or pitti ^18:46
chrisccoulsonthat just seems like it's a side effect of my patch to make g-p-m work ;)18:46
chrisccoulsoni can drop the policy file though18:46
devildantebcurtiswx: Confirmed :) do you want me to file a bug?18:49
bcurtiswxhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/615047 to link the LP# to in bug fix18:49
ubot2Launchpad bug 615047 in policykit-1 (Ubuntu) "[Maverick Alpha] asks for root permission to do: gnome-power-backlight-helper --get-max-brightness (affects: 4) (heat: 264)" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:49
kklimondachrisccoulson: the <annotate> in policy file is really weird, why is that?18:49
bcurtiswxty kklimonda :)18:49
kklimondachrisccoulson: there are two files in source - ./policy/org.gnome.power.policy and ./policy/org.gnome.power.policy.in218:50
and471good night everyone18:51
chrisccoulsonkklimonda, not sure, i'll look at that in a bit. trying to debug a firefox and thunderbird crasher atm18:51
kklimondathe first one has the weird path to helper, the second one looks misnamed..18:52
htorquechrisccoulson, does this firefox crash also work with 3.6.8? just did a firefox -P -no-remote, created a profile and started without any problems19:00
chrisccoulsonhtorque, not sure, i didn't try that. i use ff4.0 by default now ;)19:01
chrisccoulsonthe new profile thing could be a red herring though, but it triggers the crash every time here19:02
htorquechrisccoulson, what source do use for ff 4.0? will try that :)19:02
chrisccoulsonhtorque, ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa19:03
htorquethx19:03
vishhtorque: hi , is this your bug? Bug #620041 not really sure what you are referring to there.. :(19:09
ubot2Launchpad bug 620041 in ubuntu-mono (Ubuntu) "[ubuntu-mono-dark] Inconsistent main color (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62004119:09
htorquechrisccoulson, yep, i get the crash19:09
chrisccoulsonit's difficult to debug because it has no debug symbols anymore :/19:09
chrisccoulsoni suspect thats because all the binaries are stripped when we create the breakpad symbols for mozilla19:10
htorquevish, yes - the beige used by the icons isn't the same beige for all icons19:10
vishhtorque: could you list which icons you are having a problem with ? there are way too many icons for anyone to check the color one by one ;p19:11
vishhtorque: btw, it is causing a problem somewhere? inconsistent appearance or any other issue, or is it that you just happened to notice it in inkscape?19:12
htorquevish, that's going to take a while :D - i just used sed to replace the color in the svgs, but AFAIK there are some pngs too19:12
htorquevish, yes, before changing it i definitely saw the difference in the panel19:12
htorquevish, obviously not for #EAE3D0 vs. #EAE3D119:13
vishhtorque: seriously though, do mention the icons that cause a problem .. otherwise it is not possible to check each icon..19:14
htorquevish, working on it19:14
emacs_noobwindowmaker.desktop19:18
emacs_nooboops.... wrong buffer, sorry19:18
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seb128pedro_, hey20:05
seb128pedro_, the bugs about nautilus to be slow you can try asking if that happens without ubuntuone-client or appmenu-gtk installed20:06
pedro_seb128, salut, ok will do it20:06
seb128or ubuntuone-client-gnome20:06
seb128pedro_, how are you btw? ;-)20:07
pedro_btw looks like we're having more crashes related to that gtk+2.0 crash the dx team is assigned to20:07
pedro_saw a couple on nautilus20:07
pedro_seb128, I'm good! what about you?20:07
seb128right, I'm waiting on launchpad to fix their bug so we can restart the retracers or sort those20:07
seb128pedro_, I'm fine thanks ;-)20:07
pedro_bad time to have the retracers broken :-(20:07
seb128indeed20:08
seb128pedro_, they said they would fix it this week though20:08
* pedro_ crossing fingers20:08
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emacs_noobdoes anybody know how to change default window manager in latest Lucid? nothing seems to work, because gdm starts running metacity even before a user logs in!20:43
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alecunessita, rodrigo_: when you have some time... https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/properly-return-errors/+merge/3336221:06
chrisccoulsonthis is such a cool firefox extension: http://code.google.com/p/crashme/ :)21:15
micahgheh, I"ll have to remember that :)21:16
chrisccoulsonmicahg - ted pointed me to it for testing the crash reporting ;)21:19
chrisccoulsonyou can even pick how you want to crash!21:19
micahgchrisccoulson: makes sense :)21:19
chrisccoulsonit seems we're sending empty crash reports :/21:24
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bcurtiswxis there a reason libgirepository1.0-0 is still not allowed to be installed?23:45
ajmitchbecause it's superseded by libgirepository1.0-1? Any package that still depends on the older libgirepository should be rebuilt23:47
bcurtiswxajmitch: OK, so we just have to wait for all of them to be rebuilt?23:48
ajmitchwhat packages are there that still depend on it?23:49
bcurtiswxajmitch: hmm, how to find that out?23:49
chrisccoulsonepiphany, gjs and seed23:49
ajmitchchrisccoulson: apt-cache rdepends didn't show them23:50
bcurtiswxsudo apt-get autoremove --purge23:50
bcurtiswxwhoops wrong thing.. lol23:50
chrisccoulsonhmmm, shows them here23:51
* bcurtiswx is getting used to irsii23:51
micahgI can rebuild gjs tonight if it'll help something23:51
bcurtiswxapt-cache rdepends libgirepository1.0-023:51
bcurtiswxright?23:51
ajmitchchrisccoulson: I'd done apt-get update a few minutes ago - epiphany was upload for a rebuild nearly 2 weeks ago23:51
ajmitchbcurtiswx: right, and the output will include packages that conflict/replace it as well23:52
rickspencer3RAOF, good morning23:52
bcurtiswxi list gir1.0-everything-1.023:52
chrisccoulsonhmmm, not sure why it still shows it here then23:52
micahggjs I uploaded < 2 weeks ago23:53
* ajmitch is only checking on amd6423:54
* bcurtiswx is on amd64 as well23:54
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rickspencer3good morning robert_ancell23:58

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