[07:23] Good morning [07:42] morning all :) [07:44] morning and471 [07:44] hey kiwinote [08:18] mvo, you are back!! :) [08:19] hey and471! [08:19] mvo, I will let you ctach up with the backlog first, but when you are ready, I have a question about app-install-data :) [08:19] *cacth [08:19] *catch [08:20] and471: heh :) sure, just ask, I am reading mail currently, but I will reply async ;) [08:20] mvo, oh okay :) [08:21] mvo, currently the fretsonfire-game.desktop file in app-install-data points to the package fretsonfire-game (as this is the package in which it is contained), however we want the fretsonfire-game-desktop file to point towards the fretsonfire matapackage ('fretsonfire') instead - is there a way to do this? [08:23] and471: yes, there is a ~mvo/archive-crawler/mvo that contains a data/rename.cfg file that can be used for this, I can do that now [08:23] mvo, ah thankyou very much [08:30] and471: done, will be part of the next data update [08:30] mvo, thankyou very much :) [08:30] vish, ^ fretsonfire [08:32] and471: yw :) [08:34] mvo, just so I understand, that change should mean that software center will show the description of the metapackage? [08:36] and471: yes [08:36] ok thanks [08:36] and471: is that not good ? [08:36] mvo, no no that is good, I just wanted to check I had understood it correctly [08:36] ok :) [08:45] mvo, sorry how rude of me, how was your vacation? :) [08:46] and471: neat thanks.. :) [08:46] \o/ mvo is back! [08:46] hey mvo, welcome back! [08:46] and471: had you filed a separate bug for that in frets? [08:47] vish, no, so all is okay now [08:47] and471: the same way mvo had fixed the firefox bug too.. the one you marked invalid.. ;) [08:47] vish, well I looked and it had been fixed already, you can mark fix released if you want :) [08:47] and471: already done ;p [08:48] hehe [08:48] and471: bah! we could have had two bugs in frets as fixed ;p [08:48] ah wel... [08:49] and471: why was the cups task closed? the bug you just closed.. [08:49] vish, so just to check, for this merge request, do I need to subscribe the sponsors to the bug? https://code.launchpad.net/~and471/ubuntu/maverick/fretsonfire/fix-599525/+merge/33356 [08:49] vish, bilalakthar said that it was in gtk+2.0 [08:49] stupid internets broke again... [08:49] and471: oh.. better to have commented that.. otherwise i have to read bug to know that ;p [08:50] vish, sorry, I will do, it was just because bilal said 'This is not in CUPS' but I will do [08:50] and471: thanks :) [08:51] vish, so just to check, for this merge request, do I need to subscribe the sponsors to the bug? https://code.launchpad.net/~and471/ubuntu/maverick/fretsonfire/fix-599525/+merge/33356 [08:52] and471: i still dont know whats wrong in doing that.. tumbleweed thinks otherwise.. :) [08:52] ok, I won't then :) [08:52] and471: and gese-r thought we can subscribe both too.. so might just be each sponsor's pref [08:52] yeah [08:53] vish, well since tumbleweed sponsored my last upload, I will be nice and do what he asked :) === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [09:13] hey [09:14] hey seb128 [09:16] oh mvo, nearly forgot, I started some work on the new update-manager (software-updater) and myself, kiwinote, mpt and devildante were discussing it [09:16] and471: aha, interessting [09:17] I figured that it would be better to start afresh because the infrastructure is very different (one window that morphs) and then copy some stuff from the old update-manager in [09:17] and471: ok, that should be fine [09:17] hi mvo! hope you had a good week? [09:17] mvo, but we wanted to wait until you got back, to dicuss it [09:17] kiwinote: a very good one, thanks :) [09:18] mvo, when you have some time lp:~and471/+junk/software-updater [09:18] and471: starting afresh gives us the chance to get rid of some baggage that accumulated over the years and focus more strongly on tests/TDD [09:19] mvo, yup, I have started with TDD, already got most of them in :) [09:19] and471: sweet [09:20] and471: there was some discussion about updates at last uds and one vision that was discussed was to apply them all unattended. this requires a work in the backend to ensure that they are installed in a secure and unobtrusive way, but that would be the ideal. it updates without the user noticing [09:21] and471: of course that requires that its possible to interrupt the upgrade on shutdown etc, so some thinking is required how to do that best [09:21] and471: but there will be people who do not want to use it, so having a improved updater is still worthwhile [09:22] and471: glanced over the code, nice work! [09:23] mvo, thanks :) [09:23] mvo, I think when it starts t take shape, we would separate the pages out into different files, but that is the basic framework in there [09:23] * mvo nods [09:25] mvo, so basically the reason I stopped on it was because I wanted to know whether we were going to go ahead with a 'rewrite' and also I don't really know about the backend stuff :) [09:25] mvo, are you going to be working on it for natty? [09:26] and471: I'm not entirely sure yet, but its not unlikely. its definitely something we will discuss at uds [09:42] mvo, ok [09:43] hey and471 mvo [09:44] hey seb128 [09:47] mvo, did you have a nice week away from work? [09:47] Good morning mvo! [09:47] * mpt tries out lp:~mmcg069/software-center/visual-overhaul [09:51] mpt, is it good? (screenshot please :) ) [10:12] and471, http://imgur.com/i70vh [10:12] mpt, nice [10:12] seb128: yes, *very* nice [10:12] hey mpt [10:13] mpt, I don't know about the significance of the clouds - look a but ubuntuone [10:13] *bit [10:13] yeah [10:15] It's a similar idea, the software you can install is "in the cloud", but possibly a bit too similar [10:15] mpt: is that branch based on the feedback the design discussed? [10:15] eh, the design team provided I mean :) [10:17] mvo, no, they don't have time [10:18] aha, ok [10:55] mvo: hi , when you get time could you look into lp:~ilidrissi.amine/update-manager/software-updater-rename and lp:~ilidrissi.amine/update-notifier/renaming , we are nearing UIF, tick tock.. ;) [10:56] eh? update-notifier is being renamed? [10:57] hyperair: hey! [10:57] vish: hey! =) [11:04] hyperair, yup [11:04] why so? [11:05] * hyperair thought the name was pretty okay [11:05] mpt: ^ could you explain? [11:07] or vish? [11:08] hyperair: it is part of a larger plan! :) [11:08] larger plan? [11:08] hyperair: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdateHandling [11:27] hiya seb128, do you happen to know who maintains computer-janitor these days? I'd like them to have a look at bug 612493 - it's a single line change and it would make the application finally appear translated. [11:27] Launchpad bug 612493 in computer-janitor (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Computer Janitor regression: UI strings not marked for translation (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612493 [11:28] dpm, mvo? [11:29] dpm, or nobody [11:29] seb128, ok thanks, I'll ping him when he's back from lunch [11:29] dpm: i thin its barry warsaw , or similar.. [11:29] think* [11:30] yeah, I saw that as well, he's the contact for the upstream project in LP, but tbh I'm not sure at all anyone is maintaining it right now [11:30] wow, the build-depends for gnome-power-manager have gotten pretty bug [11:30] s/bug/big/ [11:30] dpm, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~computer-janitor-hackers/computer-janitor/trunk [11:30] vish, fretsonfire uploaded :) [11:30] dpm, barry has been doing the recent work it seems [11:31] dpm, talk to mvo or barry [11:31] and471: yay! [11:31] I'll do that, thanks seb128 and vish [11:31] np.. :) [11:34] mvo, will the fretsonfire thing be fixed by next upload of archive-crawler or app-install-data? [11:38] and471: have you filed a bug for removal of anjal from the archive? [11:38] vish, no, I spoke to a guy about it and he said he would do it all [11:39] vish, he was maintainer of moblin stuff [11:40] and471: hmm, well , if you close the existing bug too, no one is gonna track it! ;) [11:40] vish, I think he opened a separate bug... [11:40] * vish checks [11:40] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anjal/+bug/621660 [11:40] Launchpad bug 621660 in anjal (Ubuntu) "Please remove anjal from maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] [11:41] yup.. :) [11:41] vish, so what should I do? open up the bug again? [11:42] and471: nap , 621220 is fine.. just wanted to make sure there was a bug.. :) [11:42] nah* [11:42] ok [11:43] hmm [11:48] vish, maybe don't mark fretsonfire bug as released, as we are still waiting on the upload from app-install-data [11:49] vish, at the moment it will still display the same thing in SC [11:50] and471: mv-o will upload it with the next release , ideally that bug is about two issues , the main focus was description though :) [11:50] vish, ok its your choice, just don't want to get to maverick and something didn't happen and bug is still apparent [11:51] * and471 is going to go [11:51] see ya everyone === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === bilalakhtar is now known as bilalakhtar_ === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar === bilalakhtar is now known as bilalakhtar_ === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann-away === oubiwann-away is now known as oubiwann === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [13:35] hi [13:36] mvo: are you around? [13:36] nessita: yes [13:37] mvo: hello! do you have a few minutes to talk about SSO dbus service? we need to sightly modify the signature of the signals [13:38] mvo: and I wanted to tell you so nothing get broken [13:38] nessita: ok, what will change/needs changing? [13:38] hmm, seb128 not working today? [13:39] mvo: the login_and_do_all_the_magic method my signals one of the: CredentialsError, CredentialsFound and AuthorizationDenied [13:39] rodrigo_: he was around earlier [13:39] mvo, ah, ok [13:39] mvo: s/my/might/ [13:40] mvo: they all will pass as first argument the app_name (so you can check within your application if the signals was meant to be send to you) [13:40] hey seb128 [13:40] hey seb128 :) [13:40] hey kenvandine rodrigo_ [13:40] mvo: and the CredentialsError will also pass the error [13:40] hey nessita === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:40] mvo, hi, are you planning on merging any changes to the buy-stuff code in the next couple of hours? [13:41] * rodrigo_ lets kenvandine first turn with seb128 [13:41] hey seb128! the MIR for mocker is ready (just FYI) [13:41] * kenvandine doesn't need anything :) [13:41] nessita, excellent [13:41] mvo: so, alecu will be sending an email with these details, but I wanted to let you know first [13:41] kenvandine, ah, ok [13:41] mpt: I haven't looked at anything pending, but there is nothing from me yet, but there is a request to change some of the server interaction - why do you ask? [13:42] mvo, do you know where language selector writes its changes? [13:42] mvo, so that I'd know whether a screencast I did now was about to become out of date [13:42] nessita: ok, that should be no problem, a mail is still much appreciated. once the mail is out I can change it easily [13:42] seb128, so, about bug #615874, so I just submit the addition of the U1 email, right? [13:42] Launchpad bug 615874 in evolution (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Add Ubuntu One email to Evolution fresh install (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615874 [13:42] rodrigo_, oh right, that one [13:42] rodrigo_, yes, though I don't like it much but seems you guys insist on it [13:42] mvo: great! [13:42] mpt: shoud be fine for the time being, certainly until the meeting :) [13:42] seb128, sorry I couldn't look at it on Friday, I was travelling [13:43] seb128: the local or the global one? [13:43] rodrigo_, no worry [13:43] mvo, local, ie for the user running iut [13:43] seb128, well, not that I like it much, but it's an easy way for announcing U1 without spamming too much [13:43] it got german put before english and doing a dnd from english us before german still doesn't fix it [13:43] seb128, ok, I'll submit the patch then [13:43] I just want to rm whatever it did [13:43] rodrigo_, without considering non english users [13:44] rodrigo_, thanks [13:44] seb128: iirc it writes to ~/.profile, could you have a look there? don't rm the full file ;) [13:44] seb128: and .dmrc [13:45] export LANGUAGE="fr_FR:fr:de:de_AT:de_BE:de_CH:de_DE:de_LI:de_LU:en" [13:45] in profile [13:45] mvo, thanks [13:45] export LANGUAGE="fr_FR:fr:en_US:de:de_AT:de_BE:de_CH:de_DE:de_LI:de_LU:en" [13:46] in fact before the change I was doing [13:46] language selector is a piece of crap software [13:46] * seb128 hugs mvo [13:46] I got it cleaned now [13:47] seb128: I will simply claim that that started after I handed it over ;) [13:47] hehe [13:52] seb128, right, that's why I tried with Danilo's intltool patch [13:52] seb128, but I'll be sending the patch upstream [13:52] mvo, how do I make Ubuntu forget that I've purchased Hello X? :-) [13:53] mpt: not at all, but I can do that for you :) [13:53] mpt: did you work against staging or ec2? [13:54] mvo, how would I tell? [13:54] mpt: if you did not change anything its staging, I will make it forget about the purchase, hold on a minute or two [13:55] rodrigo_, I would prefer that but it's late for this cycle [13:55] mpt: its a hot seller, I see a lot of people purchasing it :) [13:55] seb128, yeah [13:57] mpt: https://staging.launchpad.net is doing a code update, I can not change the subscription state for that currently :/ [13:58] mvo, ok. So I have just tested the "you already purchased it but it didn't install properly" case, and it's pretty ropey [14:01] mvo, is it easy to test against ec2 instead? (Do I need my own ec2 account or something?) [14:01] mpt: the ec2 one will also try to talk to staging.launchpad.net and if that is down it will not work [14:01] mpt: so we need to wait a little bit unitl that code update is finished [14:02] mpt: in the meantime we can improve this failure case [14:04] mvo, as in, right now? [14:06] mpt: only if you have time [14:07] mvo, yep, that would be faster than e-mail/Launchpad ping-pong [14:08] mvo, the first thing I notice is that for something you can buy, the software list view item has a "More Info" button, it doesn't have an "Install" button, but it doesn't have a "Buy…" button either [14:08] Is that deliberate? [14:10] mpt: not deliberate, just a missing feature to show/wire-in the button [14:12] mvo, ok, bug 622700, that's low importance [14:12] Launchpad bug 622700 in software-center (Ubuntu) ""Buy…" button missing in software list view (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622700 [14:13] mpt: is there software to buy in yet? [14:13] * fagan isnt on maverick at the moment [14:13] fagan, not quite yet [14:13] sounds like fun though when it gets in [14:13] mvo, the big one is bug 618817 [14:13] Launchpad bug 618817 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Payment screen opens in a separate window (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/618817 [14:17] davmor2: re your bug, "sudo update-software-center" should allow you to use s-c [14:17] seb128, ok, package branch for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/615874 updated, so please review and merge, please [14:17] Launchpad bug 615874 in evolution (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Add Ubuntu One email to Evolution fresh install (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [Wishlist,In progress] [14:17] rodrigo_, thanks [14:20] rodrigo_, was the version translatable using gettext ready btw? I just saw your updates from friday on the merge request [14:20] kiwinote: that worked thanks [14:20] mvo: ^ [14:20] seb128, well, I am not sure it fully worked, but I think it was [14:20] rodrigo_, do you feel it's ready or do you think it's better to wait next cycle and go with the easy one now? [14:20] seb128, without danilo's comments, I can't be sure, so it's safer to wait now I guess [14:21] rodrigo_, ok, it's my opinion as well, let's do that [14:21] mpt: ok [14:21] seb128, although if danilo confirms it works, today or during this week, would it be too late to add it? [14:21] kiwinote: just merged your no-dbus branch, many thanks for finding that bug :) [14:22] mvo: great, thanks [14:22] rodrigo_, we can think about it but it feels late, now is time to focus on stabilizing what we have not on adding new codepaths and debug those [14:22] davmor2: see above, if you bzr pull in trunk the lucid version should be more happy [14:22] seb128, yes, ok [14:22] davmor2: eh, the maverick one I mean [14:22] rodrigo_, btw do you know offhand if it's easy to add a signature to evo by default? [14:22] seb128, I'll send a proper patch upstream, so for next cycle we should get it for free then [14:23] seb128, hmm, I think it should, let me check [14:23] mvo, "ok" as in it's fixed? :-) [14:23] rodrigo_, thanks [14:23] mvo: I already thanked kiwinote but thanks :) [14:24] mpt: "ok" as in "I see what I can do" [14:25] mpt: (sorry, there is a bunch of other stuff, including some backend changes that are required too) [14:26] mpt: just merged your fit-and-finish branch, many thanks! [14:27] mvo, thanks. I couldn't work out how to get "Featured Applications" to show up as "Featured" in the pathbutton. [14:28] mpt: its not showing up in the pathbar at all right, now, correct? and you want it to show up? [14:29] mpt: or do you mean when clicking on "all" ? [14:29] seb128, see /apps/evolution/mail/signatures gconf entry [14:30] seb128, I guess you can provide some default there [14:30] mvo, when clicking on "All", you get "Get Software > Featured Applications". It should be just "Get Software > Featured". (For example, we might feature screensavers or fonts etc in future.) [14:30] mpt: ok, let me fix that [14:31] * mvo fixes some failing tests first [14:31] rodrigo_, thanks [14:31] mvo, and the same for "New Applications" -> "What’s New" [14:48] mpt: is http://imagebin.org/110961 the character you want? [14:49] mpt: I ask because it looks a little titch misplaced [14:51] kiwinote, yep, that's it. It probably looks misplaced because the button is missing the usual left+right inner padding. [14:51] ok, thanks [14:54] kenvandine: could you please have a look at bug #620326 ? [14:54] Launchpad bug 620326 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Wrong (hardcoded) width for Play button in non-english language (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620326 [14:56] seb128, hi, I've been working on the DBus interface for the SSO client. We've found a but in the DBus api, and we'd like to propose a fix [14:56] seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client/+bug/621377 [14:56] Launchpad bug 621377 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "SSOCredentials signals must always pass the app_name (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Triaged] [14:57] *found a bug [14:57] bilalakhtar, kenvandine: don't upload rb [14:57] seb128, should we ask for an exception for it? [14:57] seb128, ok, got something queued up? [14:58] kenvandine, yes, what is commited and in the desktop team ppa [14:58] kenvandine, it just breaks indicator-sound so I'm waiting for ronoc to debug its side [14:58] seb128, can you look bug 620326? [14:58] Launchpad bug 620326 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Wrong (hardcoded) width for Play button in non-english language (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620326 [14:58] and maybe incorporate the fix? [14:59] kenvandine, I will when I work on the upload [14:59] ok [14:59] thx === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf [14:59] np [15:03] alecu, can you check with mvo for the impact on software-center? [15:03] alecu, I'm fine with the change but you need to sync uploads if that breaks software-center [15:04] seb128, yes, we've already told mvo about this possible change. [15:04] mvo, ^ [15:04] seb128, ok, we'll make sure the uploads are syncd [15:04] thanks [15:04] thanks seb128 [15:04] thank you === bilalakhtar is now known as bilalakhtar__ === bilalakhtar__ is now known as bilalakhtar === bilalakhtar is now known as bilalakhtar_ === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar [15:19] vish - did you want something sponsoring for g-s-t? [15:20] chrisccoulson: yeah, bug 529744 , thanks :) [15:20] Launchpad bug 529744 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "When creating a new user, "Shortname" should really be "Username" . (affects: 1) (heat: 25)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529744 [15:27] Ah, kiwinote, you're so fast [15:27] hehe, I'll look at that installing purchase one too [15:28] mpt: do we continue to use three dots behind installing, or do you want real ellipsises there? [15:29] alecu: the change should be straightforward, will you send me a mail with the summary please? just so that it does not get lost? [15:29] kiwinote: nice! [15:29] kiwinote, real ellipses everywhere :-) [15:29] mvo, should we sync an upload with you? [15:30] mvo, or should sso just be updated and you will catch up with it? [15:30] seb128: I can catch up [15:30] mpt: ok, will do. Just need to make sure that I find all the tests to update as well ;) [15:30] mvo, thanks [15:31] mvo, I will let you know when I sponsor those changes [15:31] kiwinote, in .ui files it's … and in Python strings it's \u2026 [15:31] thanks [15:32] mpt: do you have the terminal output from your screencast? I would like to check if its not a issue with staging. there should be a bunch of "title_changes … text on the terminal or in ~/.xsession-errors" === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [15:34] mvo, sorry, I restarted since then [15:35] And now staging is back up so I get a different result [15:37] mvo, I'll send the API that changes in an email, plus I'm setting up a wikipage with the full api [15:39] alecu: cool, thanks [15:40] mpt: could you please pastebin the output on the terminal for me? [15:52] mpt: its possible that staging is pretty outdated [15:52] chrisccoulson: ah, thanks for g-p-m; was that the reason for those "bad atom" failures? [15:52] mpt: the whats new/featured stuff is updated in trunk now (btw) [15:52] pitti - yeah, that should fix those now [15:52] chrisccoulson: it'd explain why I didn't get that on my laptop then [15:53] seb128 mentioned the other day, but I never tested it on non-xrandr hardware, so I hadn't seen it [15:53] thanks! [15:53] pitti - i don't get it on mine either, but a user came on to #ubuntu-devel over the weekend and we debugged it there [15:53] so i'm assuming it will fix it ;) [15:57] kiwinote: nice work on the getting-the-small-things-right branch, much appreciated [15:58] mvo: thanks :) [16:04] pitti: around? [16:08] tremolux, hey [16:08] nessita, hey, I am doing some tests with the framework that you use for ubuntu-sso-client, but I have hit a hurdle, wondered whether you have any ideas [16:09] and471: shooy [16:09] shoot* [16:09] nessita, in a test, I check whether clicking a button launches 'software-properties-gtk' but parsing the 'ps -A' output [16:10] nessita, but to launch software-properties-gtk, I have to actually run 'gksudo software-properties-gtk' [16:10] however because of that 'xvfb-run' the tester can't see the gksudo dialog [16:10] mvo: could you take a look at bug 622489 when you have some time? [16:11] Launchpad bug 622489 in update-manager (Ubuntu) ""Exception: No date tag found" in ubuntu-support-status (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622489 [16:11] nessita, so they can't put in their password so the test fails [16:11] nessita, I managed to get around this by running the tests with sudo [16:11] kklimonda: yes [16:11] nessita, but then I can start software-properties-gtk becuase it gives me an error about not having an X display [16:12] RuntimeError: could not open display [16:14] mpt, mvo: just fyi, I ran a script to list all pkgs containing recommended addons and suggested addons using the current addons branch (takes 40mins to run the script..). Output is available at http://ubuntuone.com/p/DdF/ . There are quite a few 'interesting' things in there. [16:14] and471: no no no no no nooooooooo! [16:14] :-) [16:14] kiwinote, interesting things like "Server Error (500)"? :-) [16:15] kiwinote, try pastebin.ubuntu.com = it is pretty now :) [16:15] nessita, huh? [16:15] and471: it doesn't accept files of 20k lines.. [16:15] kiwinote, that sucks [16:15] kiwinote, but it is pretty :) [16:16] and471: but yes, it does look nice now! [16:16] and471: your tests should be absolutely isolated from other dependecies. So, how do you run the software-properties-gtk within your program? [16:16] nessita, ah, well we use the subprocess module [16:17] nessita, when a settings button is clicked, subprocess.call is used [16:17] and471: then you should mokeypatch subprocess.call, basically like this: [16:18] nessita, sorry subprocess.Popen, but it is basically the same [16:18] and471: let me show you a snippet === zyga is now known as zyga-afk [16:21] and471: are you using tiwsted.trial.unittest.TestCAse? [16:21] nessita, yup [16:22] mpt, mvo: hm, perhaps http://bit.ly/ay9Eat works instead [16:22] kiwinote, the link worked for me, but I have been getting 500's for other ubuntuone stuff this week [16:23] and471: ah, good to know. First time I've u1 here, so wasn't quite sure how stable it was [16:23] ..I've used.. [16:24] and471: this snippet http://nessita.pastebin.com/FGb9Ukvt makes your code independant ofsubprocess.Popen [16:25] and471: you know subprocess.Popen works, so no need to exercise it [16:26] thanks kiwinote [16:26] nessita, sorry pressed wrong power switch on wall... [16:26] nessita, the rest you can guess :) [16:28] and471: jeje let me repaste what I said [16:28] and471: this snippet http://nessita.pastebin.com/FGb9Ukvt makes your code independant ofsubprocess.Popen [16:28] and471: you know subprocess.Popen works, so no need to exercise it [16:28] nessita, cool thanks === gambs_ is now known as gambs [16:29] nessita, so self.patch replaces the function Popen in the module subprocess with your lambda function? [16:30] and471: exactly, and automatically restore it at tearDown time [16:30] nessita, ah okay thankyou :) [16:30] you're welcome! [16:35] pitti, did you try to restart the retracers? [16:35] seb128: no, I didn't; I thought it was you [16:35] pitti, just wondering why I get an email about one of those crashing [16:35] I wondered as well [16:35] hum ok [16:37] pitti, there was a box restart apparently [16:37] pitti, not sure why that would make those run with the lock being on disk though [16:37] but I guess that's it [16:38] nessita, why do you assert that self._called is not None first? [16:40] mvo, tremolux: I have a couple of questions that I would have asked if my mic was working :-) [16:41] mpt: sure, just ask them now [16:42] mvo, what are the prospects for the add-ons branch? [16:43] Is it still a FFe candidate, or will it have to wait for Natty? [16:44] mpt: very good chances for 10.10 , some complains about the fixme that I wanted to look at [16:45] seb128: I think I added a @reboot cron job to clean those [16:45] seb128: normally we do want this, since a shutdown doesn't terminate the retracers properly [16:45] pitti, so that explains it, thanks [16:45] right [16:45] * pitti hugs seb128 [16:45] tremolux, do you think you can take a swing at bug 426999? It's required devildante to temporarily disable navigation to add-on pages in the add-ons branch (otherwise we end up with a pathbutton like "Get Software > Search Results > package A > package B") [16:45] Launchpad bug 426999 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Navigating to item via search doesn't show its department/subsection (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 15)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/426999 [16:46] * seb128 hugs pitti [16:47] and471: for completeness sake, you can avoid it since you're not subscripting self._called [16:48] pitti: hey any chance you could bump this up the build queue -> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa/+build/1930950 [16:48] nessita, ok thanks [16:52] mpt: let me take another look at it, it's not straightforward but maybe there's a good way to tackle it [16:55] mpt: let me take another look at it, it's not straightforward but maybe there's a good way to tackle it [16:58] thanks and471 [16:58] np [16:58] mvo, have you received any new icons from Dan Fore? [17:01] mpt: I don't think so [17:01] mvo, ok, we were working on some last week, I'll mail him again [17:01] ping pitti [17:02] mpt: thanks [17:02] mpt: I'm off to dinner for some minutes [17:02] ok [17:03] ronoc: done [17:03] ping chrisccoulson (you will do fine too [17:03] and471: hiya! so, you pasted my reply to mpt, sorry I'm a little unclear; are you saying you are thinking to look at that bug? [17:03] DBO: about to go to dinner, BBIAB [17:03] DBO, on a call atm, is it urgent? [17:03] pitti: thx a mill! [17:03] tremolux, I got disconnected so he was repeating it [17:03] chrisccoulson, ping me when you have a free moment? :) [17:03] chrisccoulson, far from urgent [17:03] tremolux, yup as mpt said :) [17:03] mpt, and471: ahh, thanks! :) === fta_ is now known as fta [17:04] np [17:04] pitti, yeah I realized a little late that it was dinner time for you, sorry :) [17:05] tremolux: just fyi, I had looked into that a little bit back and I think I recall that it wouldn't quite work out for all cases without some major-ish changes. I can't recall precisely which cases wouldn't work, but it had something to do with the available pane having categories and the appdetails pane not having them. [17:06] installed pane that last one should be [17:06] tremolux: but I would love to stand corrected of course ;) [17:09] kiwinote: thanks, yeah, when I looked at it a while back I didn't see a way to do it cleanly [17:12] tremolux: yeah, the search thing by itself would work fine, but by the time you have the renavigate if we open s-c again and the add-ons stuff, then we have to have signals all over the place [17:13] tremolux: anyway, good to see you back again! Hope you enjoyed your vacation? [17:13] kiwinote: thanks! oh yes, it was wonderful, two weeks in Paris :D [17:14] kiwinote: I wanted to never leave :) [17:14] ah, nice! [17:14] hehe [17:15] kiwinote: now I am trying to catch up on all the awesome work on software-center that you guys did :) [17:15] tremolux: yeah, in two weeks a lot can happen :) [17:16] tremolux: most of it happened in the week that mvo was still around though ;) [17:16] kiwinote: it's awesome, thanks a lot for all of your great work [17:16] tremolux: np, it's a pleasure to be able to work with such a great team of people [17:17] * and471 agrees [17:17] kiwinote, and471: ditto! [17:20] DBO, back [17:20] so you are aware of the crashes in gnome-power-manager yes? [17:21] DBO - yeah, that should be fixed now [17:21] chrisccoulson, seems I am too late them :P [17:21] then* [17:21] bratsche, I just posted some info on bug 603479, hope this helps [17:21] Launchpad bug 603479 in software-center (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Menu items not insensitive/disabled after application start (affects: 1) (heat: 78)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/603479 [17:21] DBO - is it the unhandled BadAtom crash? [17:22] chrisccoulson, yes I am downloading the package now to inspect the fix used [17:22] DBO - the patch is on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627711 [17:22] Gnome bug 627711 in general "gnome-power-manager crashed with signal 5 in _XError on systems without XBACKLIGHT" [Critical,Unconfirmed] [17:23] chrisccoulson, okay never mind then, I like the patch used there more than mine === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|afk [17:23] chrisccoulson, thank you for the update [17:23] yw === zyga-afk is now known as zyga [17:25] vish - ok, string change for gst uploaded ;) [17:25] chrisccoulson: \o/ thanks :) [17:28] and471: Yeah, I'm not sure how to deal with that. Why would you set a menuitem's sensitivity when the menu is activated? That seems a little strange to me. [17:28] and471: I mean, ideally I should be able to just deal with it.. but I'm not really sure how. [17:41] bratsche, maybe there is a better way it can be done in SC, but it is so we can say make the 'Install' item sensitive when the user has already selected a package in the treeview [17:41] bratsche, and vice versa === MacSlow|afk is now known as MacSlow [18:19] anyone knows why setting "desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowsmanager" to my WM of choice doesn't work? when it was metacity there, it worked, if i change it back to MC it works, but it doesn't want to fire up my other WM [18:26] evening mvo [18:26] mvo, still around? [18:28] emacs_noob, have you tried #ubuntu? this channel is more for development :) [18:32] kiwinote, mpt, mvo: hi :) [18:36] and471: #ubuntu don't know [18:36] emacs_noob, sorry then [18:37] #ubuntu-devel don't know either.... [18:37] bummer [18:37] i don't want metacity [18:37] but i still wish to have gnome [18:37] oh well [18:37] gonna hack up my xinitrc [18:37] good night everyone [18:37] thought there was a "proper" way, but it doesn't work [18:38] pitti, 'night [18:40] hi devildante [18:41] mpt, kiwinote, mvo: it seems FFE got accepted ;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/617297 [18:41] Launchpad bug 617297 in software-center (Ubuntu) "FFe for the lp:~ilidrissi.amine/software-center/addons branch (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [18:41] rock [18:43] with todays GPM update, I now have to give gnome-power-backlight-helper permission to run _every_ time I dim or brighten my laptop [18:43] 'n'roll :p [18:44] bcurtiswx: happened to me too, but it doesn't seem to occur anymore. instead, it crashes :p [18:44] bcurtiswx: lemme update before confirming [18:45] devildante: OK === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [18:45] caused by a policy file thats errouneously shipped in the tarball [18:45] chrisccoulson, ^ [18:45] http://paste.ubuntu.com/482496/ [18:46] or pitti ^ [18:46] that just seems like it's a side effect of my patch to make g-p-m work ;) [18:46] i can drop the policy file though [18:49] bcurtiswx: Confirmed :) do you want me to file a bug? [18:49] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/615047 to link the LP# to in bug fix [18:49] Launchpad bug 615047 in policykit-1 (Ubuntu) "[Maverick Alpha] asks for root permission to do: gnome-power-backlight-helper --get-max-brightness (affects: 4) (heat: 264)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [18:49] chrisccoulson: the in policy file is really weird, why is that? [18:49] ty kklimonda :) [18:50] chrisccoulson: there are two files in source - ./policy/org.gnome.power.policy and ./policy/org.gnome.power.policy.in2 [18:51] good night everyone [18:51] kklimonda, not sure, i'll look at that in a bit. trying to debug a firefox and thunderbird crasher atm [18:52] the first one has the weird path to helper, the second one looks misnamed.. [19:00] chrisccoulson, does this firefox crash also work with 3.6.8? just did a firefox -P -no-remote, created a profile and started without any problems [19:01] htorque, not sure, i didn't try that. i use ff4.0 by default now ;) [19:02] the new profile thing could be a red herring though, but it triggers the crash every time here [19:02] chrisccoulson, what source do use for ff 4.0? will try that :) [19:03] htorque, ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa [19:03] thx [19:09] htorque: hi , is this your bug? Bug #620041 not really sure what you are referring to there.. :( [19:09] Launchpad bug 620041 in ubuntu-mono (Ubuntu) "[ubuntu-mono-dark] Inconsistent main color (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620041 [19:09] chrisccoulson, yep, i get the crash [19:09] it's difficult to debug because it has no debug symbols anymore :/ [19:10] i suspect thats because all the binaries are stripped when we create the breakpad symbols for mozilla [19:10] vish, yes - the beige used by the icons isn't the same beige for all icons [19:11] htorque: could you list which icons you are having a problem with ? there are way too many icons for anyone to check the color one by one ;p [19:12] htorque: btw, it is causing a problem somewhere? inconsistent appearance or any other issue, or is it that you just happened to notice it in inkscape? [19:12] vish, that's going to take a while :D - i just used sed to replace the color in the svgs, but AFAIK there are some pngs too [19:12] vish, yes, before changing it i definitely saw the difference in the panel [19:13] vish, obviously not for #EAE3D0 vs. #EAE3D1 [19:14] htorque: seriously though, do mention the icons that cause a problem .. otherwise it is not possible to check each icon.. [19:14] vish, working on it [19:18] windowmaker.desktop [19:18] oops.... wrong buffer, sorry === ivanka is now known as ivanka-train === fta_ is now known as fta [20:05] pedro_, hey [20:06] pedro_, the bugs about nautilus to be slow you can try asking if that happens without ubuntuone-client or appmenu-gtk installed [20:06] seb128, salut, ok will do it [20:06] or ubuntuone-client-gnome [20:07] pedro_, how are you btw? ;-) [20:07] btw looks like we're having more crashes related to that gtk+2.0 crash the dx team is assigned to [20:07] saw a couple on nautilus [20:07] seb128, I'm good! what about you? [20:07] right, I'm waiting on launchpad to fix their bug so we can restart the retracers or sort those [20:07] pedro_, I'm fine thanks ;-) [20:07] bad time to have the retracers broken :-( [20:08] indeed [20:08] pedro_, they said they would fix it this week though [20:08] * pedro_ crossing fingers === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === lamalex_ is now known as lamalex === fta_ is now known as fta [20:43] does anybody know how to change default window manager in latest Lucid? nothing seems to work, because gdm starts running metacity even before a user logs in! === nessita1 is now known as nessita [21:06] nessita, rodrigo_: when you have some time... https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/properly-return-errors/+merge/33362 [21:15] this is such a cool firefox extension: http://code.google.com/p/crashme/ :) [21:16] heh, I"ll have to remember that :) [21:19] micahg - ted pointed me to it for testing the crash reporting ;) [21:19] you can even pick how you want to crash! [21:19] chrisccoulson: makes sense :) [21:24] it seems we're sending empty crash reports :/ === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === fta_ is now known as fta === bjf is now known as bjf[afk] === fta_ is now known as fta [23:45] is there a reason libgirepository1.0-0 is still not allowed to be installed? [23:47] because it's superseded by libgirepository1.0-1? Any package that still depends on the older libgirepository should be rebuilt [23:48] ajmitch: OK, so we just have to wait for all of them to be rebuilt? [23:49] what packages are there that still depend on it? [23:49] ajmitch: hmm, how to find that out? [23:49] epiphany, gjs and seed [23:50] chrisccoulson: apt-cache rdepends didn't show them [23:50] sudo apt-get autoremove --purge [23:50] whoops wrong thing.. lol [23:51] hmmm, shows them here [23:51] * bcurtiswx is getting used to irsii [23:51] I can rebuild gjs tonight if it'll help something [23:51] apt-cache rdepends libgirepository1.0-0 [23:51] right? [23:51] chrisccoulson: I'd done apt-get update a few minutes ago - epiphany was upload for a rebuild nearly 2 weeks ago [23:52] bcurtiswx: right, and the output will include packages that conflict/replace it as well [23:52] RAOF, good morning [23:52] i list gir1.0-everything-1.0 [23:52] hmmm, not sure why it still shows it here then [23:53] gjs I uploaded < 2 weeks ago [23:54] * ajmitch is only checking on amd64 [23:54] * bcurtiswx is on amd64 as well === fta_ is now known as fta [23:58] good morning robert_ancell