| dholbach | good morning | 08:35 |
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| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: around? | 09:33 |
| tumbleweed | bilalakhtar: yes | 09:34 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: did you get my mail? | 09:34 |
| bilalakhtar | Thanks in advance! | 09:35 |
| tumbleweed | bilalakhtar: you don't want to see my inbox :P (yes I did) | 09:35 |
| bilalakhtar | hehe, thanks tumbleweed ! | 09:35 |
| bilalakhtar | TyT, I just thought if I sent to the right address, since you have so many | 09:35 |
| AnAnt | Hello | 09:41 |
| tumbleweed | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~cosme/ubuntu/maverick/freeimage/freeimage/+merge/33347 <- is it possible to switch from orig.tar.gz -> bz2 without an upstream version bump? | 10:14 |
| directhex | tumbleweed, i don't think so | 10:17 |
| tumbleweed | that's what I thought :) | 10:18 |
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| bilalakhtar | +$(RM) libdumb.so | 10:58 |
| bilalakhtar | ^^ is the only diff remaining from Debian after a merge | 10:58 |
| bilalakhtar | what should I do | 10:58 |
| bilalakhtar | ? | 10:58 |
| bilalakhtar | I prefer sync and forward to Debian | 10:58 |
| bilalakhtar | This diff removes the shared library after a clean | 10:59 |
| tumbleweed | bilalakhtar: does that make any difference to the build? or is it only needed when working on the package? | 11:06 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: I have alreadyu requested sync | 11:06 |
| tumbleweed | ok | 11:06 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: no it doesn't make any difference to the build | 11:06 |
| tumbleweed | that's what I'd do then | 11:06 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: bhavani already requested sync, what happened there? | 11:09 |
| tumbleweed | requestsync checks for existing syncs, but there is probably some lag in processing e-mail sync requests | 11:09 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: I requested a new sync, ah it came bug #622630 | 11:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622630 in audacious-dumb (Ubuntu) "Sync audacious-dumb 0.57-1.1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622630 | 11:11 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: should I mark mine dup? | 11:11 |
| tumbleweed | bilalakhtar: oh, well there you go. bhavani didn't use request sync :) shout at him :P | 11:12 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: so would you prefer his or mine? | 11:13 |
| tumbleweed | did you read his one? | 11:13 |
| tumbleweed | it's incomplete because it didn't build | 11:13 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: it builds here | 11:14 |
| bilalakhtar | pbuilder | 11:14 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: wait I am trying another ubild, this time with latest updates | 11:15 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: BRB in 10 mins | 11:15 |
| tumbleweed | ok, cool. mark his as a duplicate of yours (or vice versa) | 11:15 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: I will see after this build succeeds | 11:15 |
| bilalakhtar | it should | 11:15 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: NO | 11:19 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: BUILD HAS FAILED! | 11:19 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: CANCEL ACK_SYNC! | 11:19 |
| bilalakhtar | wierd | 11:19 |
| tumbleweed | indeed it has | 11:19 |
| bilalakhtar | it built on my PPA | 11:19 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: it has? what do you mean by that? | 11:20 |
| tumbleweed | it has failed | 11:20 |
| bilalakhtar | goog | 11:20 |
| bilalakhtar | *good | 11:20 |
| tumbleweed | micahg: you subscribed ubuntu-sponsors to bug #614912, but in it you say you want two acks first. I only see one. | 11:30 |
| and471 | tumbleweed, thanks again for the sponsor | 11:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 614912 in One Hundred Paper Cuts "Fix description after 10.1.53.64ubuntu2 update" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614912 | 11:30 |
| ari-tczew | hello tumbleweed, nice to see you :P I've got case for you :) | 11:35 |
| tumbleweed | err, yeah? | 11:35 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: oh, I wanted ping you on bug agg, just you touch it | 11:35 |
| ari-tczew | btw. tumbleweed, are you familiar with NMU | 11:36 |
| ari-tczew | ? | 11:36 |
| tumbleweed | in debian? | 11:36 |
| AnAnt | I don't think that this diff: $(RM) <some binary file> is needed | 11:36 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: yea in Debian | 11:36 |
| AnAnt | because the binary file , if it doesn't get cleaned, it won't be represented in debdiff anyways | 11:37 |
| AnAnt | bilalakhtar: ^ | 11:37 |
| tumbleweed | AnAnt: yes, that's waht we were saying. But the package can't be synced because it doesn't build | 11:37 |
| AnAnt | ah | 11:37 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: yes, but I'm not a DD so I need sponsorship for NMUs | 11:38 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: I wanted to ask whether NMU phrase in debian/changelog in version is necessary? | 11:38 |
| tumbleweed | I think policy requires it | 11:38 |
| bilalakhtar | AnAnt: Back | 11:39 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: answering to your comment, I forgot to did bzr add :( | 11:39 |
| bilalakhtar | AnAnt: yes it doesn't build, so I am lookin at what can be done | 11:39 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: it's a "must" in Debian Developer's Reference, section 5.11.2 | 11:39 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: you wrote: Unnecessary diversion from debian | 11:40 |
| ari-tczew | I did this, because I remember that some sponsors poke me for fixing lintian's warnings | 11:41 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: yes, we want to be able to sync again in the future | 11:41 |
| ari-tczew | I know that we shouldn't change Debian package most | 11:41 |
| tumbleweed | I used to prod sponsorees about lintian warnings when I was new to it, but I've become more conservative | 11:41 |
| tumbleweed | if the lintian warning is about something serious, then deal with it (i.e. read the warnings) | 11:42 |
| tumbleweed | but if not, ignore it. (Most packages generate a few warnings) | 11:42 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: so do you suggest to drop these 2 changes? | 11:43 |
| ari-tczew | in debian/control and debian/README.source | 11:43 |
| tumbleweed | yes | 11:43 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: ok, I'll drop it, but please don't remember this as my technical-issues. I just do it, because in the past I've been warned to fixing lintian's warning, ok? | 11:44 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: I won't hold it against you :) | 11:44 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: ok. I asked you about NMU because I'd like to try get first NMU through forwarding this change to Debian. what do you think about it? | 11:46 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: As for that FTBFS, I got it | 11:46 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: sounds good | 11:46 |
| tumbleweed | bilalakhtar: great | 11:46 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: now confirming it by a build | 11:47 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: I'd like to prepare SRUs for other releases. are you interested in sponsoring? | 11:47 |
| bilalakhtar | actually, recently the ubuntu devs splitted the audacious-dev package | 11:47 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: sure | 11:48 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: what do you think about adding both tags LP: # and Closes: # ? | 11:48 |
| ari-tczew | I think that it's good. | 11:48 |
| ari-tczew | into debian/changelog of course | 11:49 |
| tumbleweed | if it's an ubuntu upload and the debian bug is linked to the lp one, it probably isn't necessary. For debian uploads one does see people doing this | 11:49 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: so do you want to see only LP: # ? | 11:50 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: I don't mind, up to you | 11:50 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: are sure about dropping Depends: ${misc:Depends} ? | 11:52 |
| ari-tczew | is it nothing important? | 11:52 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: you can see if it's important, by seeing what gets substituted | 11:53 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: I've tested package and it can be installed without this change. | 11:53 |
| tumbleweed | I'd assume that, yes | 11:53 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: review: Resubmit | 12:00 |
| ari-tczew | :) | 12:00 |
| bilalakhtar | tumbleweed: no it isn't working, I think I should let Bhavani work on this one; he came here first | 12:00 |
| tumbleweed | bilalakhtar: ok, mark as dup | 12:00 |
| bilalakhtar | done | 12:00 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: I understand "review: resubmit" to mean that the merge should be resubmitted. To actually resubmit, you set the status to resubmit (but I'm reviewing anyway, so rather don't) | 12:02 |
| AnAnt | how can I unpack an .egg file ? | 12:03 |
| tumbleweed | AnAnt: it's a zip file | 12:03 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: so in future should I use 'comment only'? | 12:03 |
| tumbleweed | no, if you set the status to resubmit, it creates a new merge proposal | 12:04 |
| tumbleweed | i.e. it resubmits it | 12:04 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: is it wrong? | 12:04 |
| tumbleweed | is what wrong? | 12:04 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: setting resubmit | 12:06 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: no, but now it's unecessary, because I knew what you meant | 12:08 |
| ari-tczew | aha | 12:08 |
| AnAnt | tumbleweed: tried unzip, but didn't work | 12:09 |
| tumbleweed | AnAnt: no clue then. Python eggs are definitly zip files | 12:10 |
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| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: ok thanks for sponsoring, I'll prepare patches for lucid, karmic and jaunty | 12:23 |
| Bachstelze | tumbleweed: should I make a debdiff against maverick for #622319 ? I see you unsubscribed sponsors | 12:24 |
| ari-tczew | Bachstelze: please use on IRC phrase: bug 622319 | 12:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622319 in opensc (Ubuntu Lucid) "Storing RSA key on EnterSafe smart card fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622319 | 12:25 |
| tumbleweed | Bachstelze: ubuntu has already diverged from debian (in maverick) so yes that sounds sensible | 12:26 |
| tumbleweed | Bachstelze: obviously make sure debian has the patch, (and any other patches we have applied to their source) | 12:26 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: Artur: Please pass debian the correct patch, rather than just a LP Link - what do you mean? | 12:29 |
| tumbleweed | the current debian patch contains a bug report, and a link to the lp bug | 12:32 |
| tumbleweed | "the current debian bug report" | 12:32 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: but it's not me do this... | 12:32 |
| tumbleweed | what do you mean? | 12:33 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: please look at field "From:" on Debian's bug | 12:33 |
| ari-tczew | it's not me | 12:33 |
| tumbleweed | yes? that doesn't mean you can't contribute a fix | 12:34 |
| ari-tczew | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=575620 | 12:34 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 575620 in libagg-dev "libagg-dev: no #include for INT_MAX and abs" [Minor,Open] | 12:34 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: I always sending a patch to Debian, but after sponsorship in Ubuntu. | 12:34 |
| ari-tczew | You said that this "only give link to LP" is my change, but it is not. | 12:35 |
| tumbleweed | ok, that's great. I didn't say that change was yours | 12:35 |
| tumbleweed | or at least I didn't mean to imply that | 12:36 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: ok, no problem. Scarely after sponsorship in Ubuntu, because then I'm sure that my patch is correct. | 12:36 |
| tumbleweed | that works for me | 12:36 |
| ari-tczew | :) | 12:36 |
| * ari-tczew is hungry, going away. Later back to work. | 12:37 | |
| Bachstelze | tumbleweed: debdiff for Maverick posted, should I resubscribe -sponsors? | 12:56 |
| tumbleweed | Bachstelze: normally yes, but I'll look now, so don't worry | 12:57 |
| Bachstelze | okay, thanks | 12:57 |
| tumbleweed | Bachstelze: any reason why you are removing dead code? | 12:58 |
| tumbleweed | it seems somewhat unecessary | 12:59 |
| Bachstelze | because the upstream commit did it, but I guess we could keep it | 12:59 |
| tumbleweed | ok, that's fine | 12:59 |
| tumbleweed | It would be good if you linked to the upstream commit in the patch header. http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ is a good standard for describing patches | 13:00 |
| ari-tczew | who is there a Debian Developer? | 13:03 |
| Bachstelze | tumbleweed: then there are two upstream commits modifying the same file, should I make a separate debian/patch with header for each one? I think I read in the packaging guide that you should avoid having several patches modifying the same file | 13:09 |
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| tumbleweed | No, you can just link to both of them | 13:12 |
| Bachstelze | tumbleweed: done | 13:27 |
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| Bachstelze | argh, no, for some reason the second patch was left out | 13:30 |
| Bachstelze | there | 13:34 |
| lucas | LP#518122 needs someone with some time (i.e not me) to do a no-changes upload to -updates | 13:51 |
| ari-tczew | is it require FFe? bug 622626 | 14:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622626 in nlog (Ubuntu) "Please sync nlog 1.0+dfsg-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622626 | 14:16 |
| AnAnt | Laney: ^ | 14:19 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: -1 -> -2 is *probably* ok | 14:19 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: I'm confused. I remember discussion about FeatureFreeze that it's time for only bug-fixes upload. | 14:20 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: I haven't looked at the changelog. Is it a bugfix? (looks) | 14:21 |
| AnAnt | it fixes a couple of Debian bugs | 14:21 |
| ari-tczew | Laney: can I get to know your opinion? | 14:21 |
| tumbleweed | none of those seem serious enough, but yes, ask Laney | 14:22 |
| devfil | ari-tczew, it doesn't | 14:25 |
| ari-tczew | so I guess that it can't be passed without FFe | 14:26 |
| devfil | ari-tczew, it doesn't require a FFe | 14:27 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: no it doesn't need one, the question is, is the upload necessary / helpful? | 14:27 |
| ari-tczew | devfil: and can be synced? | 14:27 |
| devfil | tumbleweed, it is | 14:27 |
| devfil | tumbleweed, next time (maverick+1) the package will be autosynced so it's ok | 14:28 |
| devfil | ari-tczew, yes | 14:28 |
| tumbleweed | devfil: agreed re autosync, but I haven't looked at a debdiff, and some people have been grumbling about almost-no-change syncs | 14:29 |
| ari-tczew | devfil, tumbleweed, AnAnt: I remember that some sponsors said me that syncs are not good during FF because it's getting some resources etc... | 14:30 |
| devfil | tumbleweed, looks like there are fixes | 14:30 |
| ari-tczew | personally I don't want fight with syncs during FeatureFreeze, it's OK for me, but now I'm confused and I'd like get to know opinion so loving Feature Freeze Laney | 14:31 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: if uploaded with syncpackage (which still seems to be a grey area), I don't see the difference between fixing a bug with a sync or an ubuntu1 upload. Except that the sync saves us work in the future | 14:33 |
| Bachstelze | tumbleweed: what's in the Ubuntu-Bug DEP3 field? (or where can I get it, it's not on archive.ubuntu.com yet) | 14:33 |
| tumbleweed | Bachstelze: I added this below your Origin header: "Bug-Ubuntu: http://launchpad.net/bugs/622319" - you can see the upload here: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opensc | 14:34 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: I agree with you, but as I said, I'm confused. | 14:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622319 in opensc (Ubuntu Lucid) "Storing RSA key on EnterSafe smart card fails" [Undecided,New] | 14:34 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: people may be concerned about new changes from debian causing regressions | 14:35 |
| tumbleweed | devfil: seeing as you are here, did you see bug 620280? (I subscribed you) | 14:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 620280 in wxwidgets2.8 (Ubuntu) "tunapie crashes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620280 | 14:37 |
| devfil | tumbleweed, it's pretty useless to subscribe me to a bug, just send me an email next time | 14:38 |
| tumbleweed | devfil: aah, I thought LP sends an e-mail when you subscribe someone | 14:38 |
| devfil | tumbleweed, yes, but I receive a lot of emails from launchpad so I can miss someone | 14:39 |
| tumbleweed | right, that's why I'm pinging you :) | 14:39 |
| devfil | tumbleweed, will fix this ASAP (tomorrow) ;) thank you | 14:39 |
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| smallfoot- | package Firefox 4 beta and put it in repo | 15:17 |
| micahg | tumbleweed: sorry, I should've commented, you can be the second ack, I gave up on the review/papercuts team | 15:22 |
| micahg | smallfoot-: it's on our list, chrisccoulson is actually fixing up Firefox 4 packaging so we can do that | 15:23 |
| micahg | *our = Ubuntu Mozilla Team | 15:23 |
| smallfoot- | awesome! | 15:26 |
| smallfoot- | will it be in maverick? | 15:26 |
| chrisccoulson | smallfoot-, no | 15:26 |
| smallfoot- | then where the hell will it be? | 15:26 |
| chrisccoulson | smallfoot-, it will be in a PPA | 15:27 |
| smallfoot- | oh | 15:27 |
| smallfoot- | long time ago ubuntu had firefox 2 installed by default, but in repo was available firefox 3 | 15:27 |
| smallfoot- | i think 4 should be in repo | 15:27 |
| Bachstelze | smallfoot-: we're past Feature Freeze for Maverick IIRC | 15:28 |
| Bachstelze | so no new packages | 15:28 |
| chrisccoulson | smallfoot- we aren't shipping a beta browser in the archive. we'll only be shipping a single version of firefox at any one time | 15:28 |
| chrisccoulson | but it will be available in a PPA (and the daily builds are already available) | 15:28 |
| smallfoot- | oh cool | 15:29 |
| smallfoot- | fair enough | 15:30 |
| smallfoot- | even though they ought to backport firefox 4 | 15:30 |
| micahg | smallfoot-: who is they? | 15:31 |
| chrisccoulson | "they"? | 15:31 |
| smallfoot- | canonical or whoever is responsible of putting stuff in the repository | 15:31 |
| micahg | smallfoot-: we'll probably be backporting 4.1 or whatever is after 4.0, but that only happens when the default browser is EOL | 15:32 |
| smallfoot- | oh | 15:33 |
| smallfoot- | cuz it will be shit boring for ppl to run Firefox 3 on Ubuntu when all their friends on Windows have cool new Firefox 4 | 15:33 |
| micahg | !language | smallfoot- | 15:33 |
| ubottu | smallfoot-: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. | 15:33 |
| micahg | smallfoot-: that's what the PPA is for | 15:34 |
| smallfoot- | normal ppl dont use ppa, its only advanced users | 15:34 |
| micahg | smallfoot-: no, normal people do use PPAs, if they have something that's wanted | 15:35 |
| ari-tczew | smallfoot-: PPA is not hard to use | 15:35 |
| smallfoot- | i dont even know what PPAs exist | 15:35 |
| ari-tczew | you can also create your own repository! | 15:35 |
| vish | micahg: hmm? "I gave up on the review/papercuts team" what do you mean? | 15:36 |
| smallfoot- | no cuz packaging stuff in ubuntu is impossible, you have to read 100 pages of stuff, download 100 stuffs, etc | 15:36 |
| micahg | vish: waiting for 2 ACKs like we discussed | 15:36 |
| micahg | smallfoot-: we do the packaging, you just install | 15:36 |
| ari-tczew | nothing never was easy like snap at start | 15:37 |
| vish | micahg: i dont understand , i already told you if its just to make it more specific , go ahead.. you hadnt replied on the bug and i had to poke you yesterday , not sure what else i'm supposed to do.. | 15:37 |
| ari-tczew | smallfoot-: do you want use PPA? you have to only add lines to /etc/apt/sources.list | 15:37 |
| ari-tczew | you don;t need package if you don't want ... | 15:38 |
| smallfoot- | i would not manually edit configuraiton files with a text editor | 15:39 |
| smallfoot- | neither would anyone else that is not a nerd | 15:39 |
| ari-tczew | smallfoot-: do you use gnome? | 15:40 |
| smallfoot- | yes | 15:41 |
| ari-tczew | smallfoot-: then you can use graphic editor for /etc/apt/sources.list | 15:41 |
| tumbleweed | also, you can add PPAs via software sources | 15:41 |
| ari-tczew | System -> Administration -> sources software | 15:42 |
| smallfoot- | yes | 15:42 |
| tumbleweed | but smallfoot- is right, PPAs aren't for run-of-the-mill users, and that's correct. They can use the version of firefox that our mozilla team recommends and provides. | 15:42 |
| smallfoot- | then they will be stuck with firefox 3, while their friends with windows all can enjoy firefox 4 | 15:43 |
| tumbleweed | smallfoot-: we can't provide the latest version of everything *and* stability, the two don't go hand in hand | 15:43 |
| micahg | smallfoot-: that's the nature of the distro, stable releases don't change unless there are extenuating circumstances | 15:45 |
| smallfoot- | but im sure firefox 4 is perfectly stable on windows 7 | 15:45 |
| smallfoot- | how come you can run firefox 4 perfectly stable on windows 7, but not on ubuntu? | 15:45 |
| micahg | smallfoot-: that's not the question, there are other apps that depend on a certain series of Firefox | 15:46 |
| chrisccoulson | smallfoot-, stability is not the only criteria. because it's still in beta, it doesn't have any security updates | 15:46 |
| smallfoot- | micahg, like which apps? | 15:48 |
| chrisccoulson | smallfoot-, "apt-cache rdepends xulrunner-1.9.2" ? | 15:48 |
| smallfoot- | chrisccoulson, thats why firefox3 should be installed by default, and firefox4 optional in repo | 15:48 |
| smallfoot- | xulrunner isnt firefox | 15:48 |
| chrisccoulson | smallfoot-, yes it is | 15:48 |
| chrisccoulson | it's exactly the same codebase | 15:48 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: bug 393923 needs some love :) | 15:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 393923 in agg (Debian) "agg_rasterizer_cells_aa.h missing #includes <limits.h> and <stdlib.h> so it doesn't compile on new GCC versions" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393923 | 15:50 |
| micahg | smallfoot-: we have 2 people working on Mozilla stuff at the moment, that's all, there are not enough resources to support 2 versions of Firefox in the repos, in addition that causes other problems with defaults/updates/conflicts | 15:50 |
| smallfoot- | ok | 15:51 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: tasks approved | 15:51 |
| lfaraone | micahg: although pyxpcom is being packaged separately in Debian, you want it to have a maintainer who will keep it up-to-date with Firefox updates before you include it in Maverick, right? | 15:52 |
| * lfaraone is writing an email summarizing the Sugar browser situation, and wants to make sure he understands it correctly. | 15:52 | |
| micahg | lfaraone: most likely yes since it seems to have been abandoned upstream, glandium said he'd talk to the Sugar team | 15:55 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - did you have a look at the packaging? | 15:55 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I only had time to do a test build, not look in depth, and it builds itself at least with our xulrunner with the one caveat I told you about | 15:56 |
| micahg | the next test would be to compile something against it | 15:56 |
| chrisccoulson | is it installing components in to /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2.8/components? | 15:56 |
| * micahg checks | 15:56 | |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: yep, so you're right, we'll need to figure out a way around that | 15:57 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, we'll need to build those components in to an extension and install it that way i think | 15:57 |
| chrisccoulson | that should work | 15:58 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: well, the problem is extensions don't have the same API access as pyxpcom | 15:59 |
| chrisccoulson | it should be ok. it's shipping binary XPCOM components, and you can ship those in extensions and have the same level of access as you normally would | 15:59 |
| Bachstelze | lfaraone: since you're a DD, can I have a PM please? I'm lookin for a sponsor for my package in Debian | 16:00 |
| lfaraone | micahg: I tested pyxpcom and it worked with sugar-browse-activity-*, at least. | 16:01 |
| lfaraone | Bachstelze: sure, although rarely are such things worthy of a PM rather than just public discussion :) | 16:01 |
| Bachstelze | well, we're on an Ubuntu channel :p | 16:02 |
| micahg | lfaraone: that's good at least | 16:03 |
| ari-tczew | lfaraone: are you DD? | 16:08 |
| lfaraone | ari-tczew: that's what people keep telling me. | 16:13 |
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| lfaraone | micahg: oh, Mike Hommey == glandium. Right, he already sent us a mail (to debian-olpc-devel) asking us to test his package, which we did. | 16:33 |
| lfaraone | micahg: speaking of which, do you have a link to the dsc of his package? I can't seem to find it on mozilla.debian.net anymore. | 16:36 |
| * micahg wonders if it's past new | 16:36 | |
| micahg | lfaraone: http://people.debian.org/~glandium/pyxpcom_0.0~hg20100212-1.dsc | 16:37 |
| lfaraone | aha. | 16:43 |
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| lfaraone | If I have a local copy of the Ubuntu archive, can I mount that in pbuilder as the cached apt contents | 17:08 |
| lfaraone | *? | 17:08 |
| james_w | lfaraone: not if it is laid out like a normal mirror of the Ubuntu archive, as the cached apt contents are a flat directory structure I believe | 17:09 |
| tumbleweed | lfaraone: but you can configure your pbuilder not to use a cache | 17:09 |
| lfaraone | james_w: I used apt-mirror. | 17:10 |
| tumbleweed | james_w: correct re structures | 17:10 |
| lfaraone | hmmm. could I have it mount the directory containing the mirror as an extra dir and just point to that folder in /etc/apt/sources.list? | 17:10 |
| tumbleweed | that'd probably work | 17:11 |
| tumbleweed | personally, I just point my pbuilders at my local apt-cacher-ng (and have them not cache debs themselves) | 17:11 |
| * lfaraone likes to be able to build packages without internet access, say, on the train, so it's useful to have a full copy of the archive. | 17:12 | |
| james_w | lfaraone: yes, that would work. It would copy the packages around unless you disable the cache dir. I don't know if apt is sensible enough to just use the files on disk if it is a local mirror and there is no cache | 17:12 |
| lfaraone | *cobwuilder | 17:12 |
| lfaraone | *cowbuilder | 17:12 |
| tumbleweed | james_w: it is if you use file:// urls | 17:12 |
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| lfaraone | hm. another thing I was looking at, I see that people use sbuild with aufs to mimick what is used on the buildds. Would it be possible to go further and use sbuild + tempfs with aufs? (so that the unpacking etc doesn't need to be done on the disk, it can just be done in RAM and discarded afterwards) | 17:14 |
| lfaraone | *tmpfs | 17:14 |
| tumbleweed | lfaraone: I build in tmpfs, yes. But you need >4G of ram for most packages (haven't tried openoffice :) ) | 17:17 |
| lfaraone | tumbleweed: hehe. I've 4G myself. | 17:17 |
| tumbleweed | tmpfs on /var/cache/pbuilder/build type tmpfs (rw,size=5G) | 17:17 |
| tumbleweed | haven't run into issues with that | 17:18 |
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| lfaraone | micahg: hmm. is it a known issue that xulrunner-1.9.2 stalls on "Setting up" when installing? | 19:01 |
| micahg | lfaraone: no...it shouldn't | 19:02 |
| micahg | which release? | 19:02 |
| lfaraone | micahg: on Maverick I attempted to build pyxpcom in pbuilder and xulrunner-bin was using 100% CPU. (and I left it there for an hour and a half) | 19:02 |
| micahg | weird, I built it locally without issue, can you login and see where it's stuck? | 19:03 |
| lfaraone | micahg: how can I determine that? (I'm running cowbuilder --login right now and it froze again while Setting up xulrunner-1.9.2) | 19:06 |
| micahg | can you do ps in cowbuilder env? | 19:06 |
| lfaraone | micahg: "top" (run from outside the enviornment) shows xulrunner-bin using 100%cpu. | 19:06 |
| lfaraone | micahg: the command in question is "/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2.8/xulrunner-bin --gre-version" | 19:07 |
| micahg | lfaraone: what's the parent process? | 19:08 |
| lfaraone | micahg: it seems to be calling itself? http://sprunge.us/SaJc | 19:10 |
| micahg | lfaraone: what's above that | 19:11 |
| lfaraone | micahg: "/bin/sh /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9.2 --gre-version" | 19:13 |
| micahg | lfaraone: hmm | 19:13 |
| lfaraone | micahg: which is called by "/bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/xulrunner-1.9.2.postinst configure" | 19:13 |
| micahg | lfaraone: maybe it was a bad install | 19:14 |
| lfaraone | micahg: bad install? I just did "cowbuilder --login" and installed the packages, it has happened all 3 times I've tried it. | 19:14 |
| lfaraone | micahg: I can rebuild my cowbuilder chroot if you want. | 19:14 |
| micahg | lfaraone: oh, we should look into that then... | 19:15 |
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| lfaraone | micahg: I'll file a bug. I'm debootstrapping a new chroot just to verify it's not something specific to cowbuilder. | 19:15 |
| micahg | lfaraone: like I said, I had no problem in pbuilder | 19:16 |
| micahg | but I"m also on lucid with a maverick pbuilder | 19:16 |
| ari-tczew | error: expected ')' before ';' token | 19:16 |
| ari-tczew | what happens? | 19:16 |
| lfaraone | ari-tczew: uh, there's a syntax error. | 19:16 |
| ari-tczew | lfaraone: and how can I fix it? | 19:16 |
| lfaraone | ari-tczew: by using proper syntax. | 19:17 |
| lfaraone | ari-tczew: you should probably show us your source if you want us to help you determine the cause of the erorr. | 19:17 |
| ari-tczew | lfaraone: http://paste.ubuntu.com/482514/ | 19:18 |
| lfaraone | ari-tczew: did it say what line the problem was on? | 19:19 |
| ari-tczew | lfaraone: ../include/agg_rasterizer_cells_aa.h:342: error: expected ')' before ';' token | 19:19 |
| ari-tczew | lfaraone: buildlog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/482515/ | 19:20 |
| lfaraone | ari-tczew: no idea, that's odd. | 19:21 |
| ari-tczew | lfaraone: I'm thinking about includes | 19:22 |
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| lfaraone | micahg: huh... it works in a chroot. Time to recreate my cowbuilder enviorn then :) | 19:25 |
| micahg | lfaraone: :) | 19:25 |
| neeraj | lfaraone: hi | 19:38 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: I need your help :( | 19:51 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: yes? | 19:55 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: patching agg in karmic won't work. the possibly way is backport from lucid. | 19:56 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: but lucid is waiting for sponsor | 19:56 |
| tumbleweed | one can always just not bother with karmic :) | 19:56 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: do you mean end work after fix lucid? | 19:57 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, if it isn't trivially fixable | 19:58 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: I've spent half day on fixing karmic and no result :( | 20:00 |
| lfaraone | micahg: it freezes when I use cowbuilder even after rebuilding. It looks like a cowbuilder-specific bug, is it worth reporting? (ie,is it a problem that should be fixed in cowbuilder or in xulrunner?) | 20:02 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: is this version ok? *ubuntu1~9.10 ? | 20:04 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: follow the security team's number policy | 20:05 |
| ari-tczew | okay | 20:07 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: oh, done! \o/ | 20:08 |
| micahg | lfaraone: idk about cowbuilder | 20:11 |
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| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: do you have permission for reopen bug? | 21:06 |
| ari-tczew | from Won't fix | 21:06 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: yes | 21:08 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: I wrote 21:08 (UTC+2h) that it's done :P | 21:08 |
| ari-tczew | I'm testing again to be sure | 21:08 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: which package has grab-udd-merge ? | 21:08 |
| ari-tczew | shadeslayer: trunk from stefanor bzr? | 21:09 |
| shadeslayer | does it do syncs as well? | 21:09 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: not packaged: lp:~stefanor/ubuntu-dev-tools/grab-udd-merge (direct: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~stefanor/ubuntu-dev-tools/grab-udd-merge/download/stefanor%40ubuntu.com-20100807125513-uo4gyakmpvc5k3r6/grabuddmerge-20100715005242-yrbierkfi6zix8mj-1/grab-udd-merge ) | 21:10 |
| ari-tczew | shadeslayer: merge tool for syncs? :P | 21:10 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: no, ack-sync | 21:10 |
| shadeslayer | need a sync from debian experimental without going through madison | 21:10 |
| shadeslayer | madison -> highly outdated db | 21:10 |
| ari-tczew | shadeslayer: syncpackage ? | 21:10 |
| shadeslayer | i dont have upload rights :) | 21:10 |
| shadeslayer | requestsync goes through madison :P | 21:11 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: doesn't syncpackage use madison? | 21:11 |
| tumbleweed | write a manual sync request? | 21:11 |
| micahg | that's what I did | 21:11 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: will madison ever be up to date for this package? | 21:11 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: idk... its in debian experimental | 21:12 |
| shadeslayer | i think ill have to write a manual sync request | 21:12 |
| micahg | yes, madison can show experimental | 21:12 |
| shadeslayer | http://qa.debian.org/madison.php?package=kmymoney << | 21:12 |
| shadeslayer | currently out of date for 5 days | 21:12 |
| micahg | shadeslayer: right, Debian's having some HW issues with their QA boxes | 21:13 |
| shadeslayer | micahg: any ideas if they will fix soonish ? :) | 21:13 |
| micahg | shadeslayer: nope, but they are working on it | 21:13 |
| shadeslayer | might as well write a request manually | 21:13 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: the udd rmadison endpoint seems to be up to date | 21:13 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: edit your requestsync :) | 21:14 |
| micahg | tumbleweed: what do you mean udd rmadison? | 21:14 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: erm.. dont understand :) | 21:14 |
| tumbleweed | rmadison -u udd kmymoney | 21:14 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes | 21:14 |
| micahg | tumbleweed: I get cannot resolve host | 21:15 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: what do i edit in /usr/bin/requestsync ? | 21:15 |
| shadeslayer | or do i edit something else? :P | 21:15 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: hmm, looking | 21:17 |
| shadeslayer | there is this one line | 21:17 |
| shadeslayer | # try rmadison | 21:17 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: add RMADISON_URL_MAP_DEBIAN=http://qa.debian.org/cgi-bin/madison.cgi to .devscripts | 21:22 |
| ajmitch | sometimes it's just as fast to write up manual sync requests | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | ajmitch: but this is more fun ;) | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: which file? :P | 21:23 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: ~/.devscripts | 21:24 |
| shadeslayer | oic | 21:24 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 21:24 |
| * shadeslayer hugs tumbleweed | 21:24 | |
| tumbleweed | heh | 21:24 |
| micahg | \o/ | 21:25 |
| micahg | thanks tumbleweed | 21:26 |
| * ajmitch waits very very patiently for this laptop | 21:26 | |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: next changes needs some love (tasks also) | 21:43 |
| * shadeslayer hops up and down | 21:46 | |
| shadeslayer | look : v | 21:46 |
| shadeslayer | http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/08/23/11-04-ubuntu-developer-summit-announced/ | 21:46 |
| debuilder | hey guys i want to build a python package | 22:27 |
| debuilder | but i dunno whether to use distutils or setuptools | 22:27 |
| debuilder | which one should i use | 22:27 |
| ebroder | debuilder: If you don't know you need setuptools, probably go with distutils. It's simpler | 22:29 |
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| debuilder | and I just include stuff in the cdbs class? | 22:30 |
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| simar | shadeslayer: heya!! there? | 22:43 |
| shadeslayer | simar: yes... rolling on a caffeine high | 22:43 |
| simar | shadeslayer: same here ... | 22:44 |
| simar | shadeslayer: i was reading you article http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/02/27/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t17:01 | 22:44 |
| shadeslayer | alrighty | 22:44 |
| simar | shadeslayer: I got this output while authorizing the ubuntu-dev-tools .. i think it got some errors .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/482614/ | 22:45 |
| simar | shadeslayer: is that ok | 22:46 |
| shadeslayer | doesnt look so | 22:46 |
| shadeslayer | simar: happens every time? | 22:46 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 22:46 |
| shadeslayer | ubuntu pastebin got a overhaul :P | 22:47 |
| simar | shadeslayer: kk | 22:47 |
| shadeslayer | whut? | 22:47 |
| shadeslayer | can you run it again? | 22:47 |
| simar | shadeslayer: wait | 22:48 |
| simar | shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/482614/ ....same output | 22:50 |
| ajmitch | simar: is your system clock correct? | 22:52 |
| * shadeslayer was about to say that | 22:52 | |
| ajmitch | I've had problems recently where it skewed by more than 15 minutes & caused issues with OAuth | 22:53 |
| shadeslayer | simar: last line of traceback | 22:53 |
| shadeslayer | Invalid nonce/timestamp: Timestamp appears to come from bad system clock | 22:53 |
| simar | ajmitch: In launchpad my time zone is UTC while here I have Indian time .. | 22:53 |
| ajmitch | that shouldn't be a problem | 22:54 |
| ajmitch | what does 'date -u' say? | 22:55 |
| simar | ajmitch: oh my god, I had lived a day back ... ;-)) | 22:55 |
| simar | ajmitch: I hope it will work now.. let me chck | 22:56 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 22:56 |
| simar | ajmitch: shadeslayer Mon Aug 23 21:55:13 UTC 2010 is that right ... | 22:56 |
| ajmitch | yes | 22:56 |
| ajmitch | or around about there | 22:56 |
| shadeslayer | Mon Aug 23 21:57:58 UTC 2010 | 22:58 |
| shadeslayer | so yes | 22:58 |
| simar | Credentials successfully written to /home/simar/.cache/lp_credentials/simar-write_public.txt. yoyo!!! | 22:59 |
| ajmitch | great | 22:59 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 22:59 |
| simar | shadeslayer: ajmitch : guess what has happened, if you dinnt come to my rescue .... this would had been my last day with PPAs .. ;-)) | 23:01 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 23:01 |
| simar | continuing ... | 23:02 |
| shadeslayer | simar: btw id suggest one thing if your reading that log | 23:06 |
| shadeslayer | have a look at the bottom 2-3 lines | 23:06 |
| simar | shadeslayer: ya.. | 23:06 |
| shadeslayer | i made a mistake during the session | 23:06 |
| simar | shadeslayer: oh. | 23:06 |
| shadeslayer | otherwise its a pretty good session, i made every possible detail available | 23:07 |
| simar | shadeslayer: Hey, I'm enjoying reading it...but wait!! pkg-kde-tools. I'm using gnome. Does it make a difference | 23:08 |
| shadeslayer | no it doesnt... thats the beauty of it | 23:08 |
| shadeslayer | its just a collection of scritps | 23:09 |
| shadeslayer | *scripts | 23:09 |
| simar | k | 23:09 |
| simar | shadeslayer: when do you sleep .. | 23:09 |
| shadeslayer | probably not tonight | 23:10 |
| shadeslayer | might do some 8085 programming :P | 23:10 |
| simar | shadeslayer: oh,, great soul.. | 23:10 |
| simar | shadeslayer: wait,, you work on embedded | 23:10 |
| shadeslayer | uh no... basically ECE student ;) | 23:11 |
| simar | shadeslayer: I'm working on atmega8, 16 and motorola mc9s12x256 and 512.. | 23:11 |
| simar | shadeslayer: if you need any help .. i'm here .. | 23:11 |
| simar | shadeslayer: :)) | 23:11 |
| shadeslayer | your on embedded :P | 23:11 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 23:12 |
| shadeslayer | not really... the mnemonics are quite easy as of now :P | 23:12 |
| shadeslayer | were just doing the basics... but im yet to grasp the concept of LXI and LDLH properly :P | 23:12 |
| simar | shadeslayer: my bed at this time is tucked with electronics.. | 23:13 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :) | 23:13 |
| simar | shadeslayer: LXI and LDLH, I hope these are registers .. | 23:13 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 23:13 |
| shadeslayer | lets not make this OT now :P | 23:13 |
| simar | shadeslayer: oh, yeah,... | 23:13 |
| shadeslayer | im off for a while... | 23:13 |
| simar | shadeslayer: wait by the way i'm making a project for kvpy.. | 23:14 |
| shadeslayer | simar: are you following my session line to line? | 23:14 |
| shadeslayer | kvpy? | 23:14 |
| simar | shadeslayer: ya .. | 23:14 |
| simar | shadeslayer: kvpy search on net .. by the way which yr?? | 23:14 |
| shadeslayer | alright, since the package is choqok, you may go to #kubuntu-devel if you have questions | 23:14 |
| shadeslayer | simar: 5 th sem ( 3rd year ) | 23:15 |
| simar | shadeslayer: k,, thanks | 23:15 |
| shadeslayer | + and nobody here answers | 23:15 |
| simar | shadeslayer: then you need not search.. | 23:15 |
| simar | shadeslayer: its upto 2nd yr | 23:15 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 23:15 |
| simar | shadeslayer: excepts you.. you really help to help ... great soul .. | 23:16 |
| shadeslayer | ^_^ | 23:16 |
| simar | wow now this is last .. i will also try this | 23:16 |
| shadeslayer | im thinking of applying for kubuntu-dev once i can get project neon up | 23:16 |
| simar | ^_^ | 23:16 |
| simar | shadeslayer: if i can help(for you app) someway, please tell, i really want to.. | 23:17 |
| shadeslayer | you could comment on it... but idk if they will take that into account or not :P | 23:18 |
| shadeslayer | havent made a application yet :D | 23:19 |
| simar | shadeslayer: k, but i will comment ... something is better that nothing (my case)) | 23:20 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 23:20 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 23:20 |
| simar | shadeslayer: you were applying for moto .. don't you | 23:20 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, but i havent contributed to universe enough | 23:21 |
| * micahg is thinking about applying for MOTU after UDS | 23:21 | |
| simar | shadeslayer: oh, i c.. | 23:21 |
| shadeslayer | otoh... ive contributed alot to main :P | 23:22 |
| simar | micahg: but i though you are **motu | 23:22 |
| shadeslayer | mostly kubuntu specific stuff | 23:22 |
| shadeslayer | simar: https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+related-software << my list of uploaded packages | 23:22 |
| simar | shadeslayer: i'm not very familiar with these terms literarly main, universe .. so much | 23:22 |
| shadeslayer | micahg: care to explain ^... im off for noq | 23:23 |
| simar | shadeslayer: i'm seeing that | 23:23 |
| shadeslayer | *now | 23:23 |
| simar | shadeslayer: thanks | 23:23 |
| simar | micahg: you turn now .. if you are free .. | 23:23 |
| shadeslayer | most significant difference is that, main is supported by canonical, universe is not :P | 23:23 |
| micahg | simar: well, 1. I'm not MOTU, I have upload rights for the mozilla package set | 23:24 |
| micahg | simar: main and restricted have security support from canonical for the life of release | 23:24 |
| simar | micahg: good.. | 23:24 |
| micahg | simar: universe and multiverse are supported by the community | 23:24 |
| simar | micahg: k | 23:25 |
| simar | micahg: what are these all ... what i think is that, these are places where packages are stored . ..or these are just virtual terms ?? | 23:26 |
| micahg | simar: they are in essence super package sets | 23:26 |
| micahg | main and universe are freely redistributable and able to build from source, restricted and multiverse are freely distributable with binary components | 23:27 |
| simar | micahg: ok, i think i got the relevant part .. how can i contribute to these .. or should i ask it after reading the ppa session from shadeslayer | 23:28 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: where is UDS? | 23:29 |
| shadeslayer | ari-tczew: orlando florida | 23:29 |
| micahg | simar: well, there are sponsors for those that can't upload packages | 23:29 |
| ari-tczew | arhg, I wanted ask when :P | 23:29 |
| micahg | Oct 25-29 | 23:29 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 23:30 |
| simar | micahg: k, and what should i ask these sponsers to upload .. is it bug fixes .. patches | 23:30 |
| simar | micahg: or something more than that | 23:30 |
| micahg | simar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess | 23:31 |
| ari-tczew | simar: are you interested in security issues? | 23:31 |
| simar | ari-tczew: ya i want something to work.. but what next .. | 23:32 |
| ari-tczew | simar: what expierence with packaging have you got? | 23:32 |
| simar | ari-tczew: ya, i have fixed some ftbfs and made patches .. | 23:33 |
| simar | ari-tczew: i hope i can learn more .. if i get chance | 23:33 |
| ari-tczew | simar: hehe, "get chance" ... every motivated person will got chance :) | 23:36 |
| ajmitch | the opportunities are there | 23:36 |
| ajmitch | there's more than enough stuff that needs fixing | 23:36 |
| simar | ari-tczew: i hope so.. | 23:36 |
| simar | ajmitch: i wish if you can be a bit more specific .. actually i'm very familiar with *stuff* | 23:37 |
| ari-tczew | simar: at start in contributing to security sector, I'd invite you to testing patches :) | 23:37 |
| simar | ari-tczew: good start :)) | 23:37 |
| ajmitch | simar: it's hard to be more specific in such a broad field :) | 23:37 |
| ari-tczew | you can review what are looks procedures, then you will could prepare yourself patches | 23:38 |
| ajmitch | security fixes are a good place to start, certainly | 23:38 |
| simar | ajmitch: i hope if you can direct me somewhere to a link.. | 23:38 |
| micahg | simar: find packages you care about/use and then check for CVEs | 23:38 |
| micahg | that's a good place to start | 23:38 |
| ari-tczew | I offer instruction for fixing security issues, simar | 23:39 |
| simar | micahg: what is CVEs | 23:39 |
| ari-tczew | !CVE | 23:39 |
| simar | ari-tczew: k | 23:40 |
| simar | !CVE | 23:40 |
| ajmitch | the bot is being a bit slow today? | 23:40 |
| micahg | !cve | 23:40 |
| simar | !cve | 23:40 |
| ari-tczew | not found :( | 23:40 |
| micahg | simar: common vulnerabilities and exposure | 23:40 |
| ari-tczew | simar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Vulnerabilities_and_Exposures | 23:40 |
| simar | micahg: k, i got it | 23:40 |
| ajmitch | argh, nearly 300MB of updates to grab for maverick | 23:41 |
| ajmitch | this'll take awhile | 23:41 |
| simar | ari-tczew: i think i know what are taking exactly ... but where should i start looking and how to do security testing .. i mean there are tools, as of i know.. | 23:42 |
| ari-tczew | simar: please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam | 23:44 |
| ari-tczew | simar: tomorrow I'll prepare some patches and we can talk about testing, ok? | 23:44 |
| ari-tczew | ATM I don't have any patches ready for testing. | 23:44 |
| simar | ari-tczew: i had a hacking workshop here, there the tutor demonstrated exactly this .. he gained access to windows shell using some tool that displays all vulnerabilities and how to target them .. i had a taste of it .. | 23:46 |
| ari-tczew | simar: please come on channel #ubuntu-hardened | 23:49 |
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