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Adri2000hi everyone08:02
Adri2000could anyone telle me what's is blocking bug #532232 ? are we just missing someone to create the package or is there something else?08:04
ubot2Launchpad bug 532232 in lightning-sunbird (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[MASTER] Please update lightning extension to version 1.0 for use with Thunderbird 3 (affects: 62) (dups: 4) (heat: 357)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53223208:04
Adri2000s/telle/tell/08:05
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* gnomefreak tries tb3112:05
gnomefreakyay it works agin12:06
gnomefreakit seems it wants to work only when it feels like12:38
gnomefreaki cant get tb31 daily to open again. it worked once this morning12:53
Adri2000so noone knows what's the status of the lightning package? :o14:40
gnomefreakit is on our to do list atm14:48
* gnomefreak doesnt have a lot of time to put into it anymore.14:49
gnomefreakright now we are working on landing tb31 and ff4 into Maverick14:50
gnomefreakMilos_SD: thunderbird-3.1 worked once this morning but it hasnt worked since than14:51
gnomefreakdamnit14:52
gnomefreakmicahg: ^^^14:52
chrisccoulsonAdri2000, that's actually on my list this week15:00
Adri2000chrisccoulson: great news :)15:00
micahggnomefreak: no FF4 in maverick15:19
micahggnomefreak: TB 3.1 is in maverick15:19
micahgchrisccoulson: BTW, they have the fix for xul20 FTBFS upstream, hopefully it'll land today15:23
chrisccoulsoncool!15:24
gnomefreakmicahg: we are not getting ff4 in Maverick?15:27
gnomefreaki was ina  pissy mood and aim starts when i log into windows15:29
gnomefreakdamn15:29
micahggnomefreak: no, it'll be in natty15:29
gnomefreakoh damn15:29
micahggnomefreak: they're not even feature frozen yet, so there was no way to port all the apps15:29
gnomefreaki thought FF was last week but i dont remember. once tb3.1 starts working i will know for sure15:30
micahggnomefreak: it'll be in the firefox-stable PPA though, we'll have a firefox-next PPA as well soon15:30
micahggnomefreak: our FF was 10 days ago15:30
gnomefreakmaybe that is it15:31
* chrisccoulson craps whip on micahg from smallfoot15:32
chrisccoulsonheh ;)15:32
micahgheh15:32
micahgchrisccoulson: can you take a quick look at the debdiff in bug 61491215:35
ubot2Launchpad bug 614912 in flashplugin-nonfree (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Fix description after 10.1.53.64ubuntu2 update (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61491215:35
micahgtumbleweed can upload, but I just want to be sure the changes I made are ok15:36
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, that looks ok15:37
* gnomefreak gets the feeling enigmail is causing tb31 no start issue15:37
gnomefreakmicahg: after running tb31 in -safe-mode than close than tb31 works fine out of safemode15:39
micahggnomefreak: well, which one are you running?15:39
gnomefreakmicahg: daily15:39
micahgwhich daily?15:39
gnomefreakmicahg: tb3115:40
* micahg needs fta to come back to fix thunderbird15:40
gnomefreakengimal from your PPA15:40
micahggnomefreak: yeah, it's missing the symlink patch, was hoping fta would come back...15:40
gnomefreakok15:40
micahggnomefreak: I'll add it15:40
gnomefreakmicahg: ok i ddidnt know if you knew is all15:41
micahggnomefreak: k, added15:44
gnomefreakthat was fast15:44
gnomefreakstill need to build15:45
gnomefreakthere is no way to run in debug mode at least --help doesnt list it15:45
micahgchrisccoulson: I'm guessing if we added some symlink magic it wouldn't be enough, for pyxpcom, right?16:00
chrisccoulsonprobably not. we should avoid installing things in to application directories if we can16:00
micahgchrisccoulson: well, I would say have pyxpcom install in its own dir and xulrunner can manage the symlinks to itself16:01
chrisccoulsoni'm not sure if that would work would it? that would imply that xulrunner would need to have some knowledge about pyxpcom wouldn't it?16:01
micahgchrisccoulson: yes16:02
micahgmaybe we can create a pyxpcom trigger16:02
ftabug 52924216:40
ubot2Launchpad bug 529242 in chromium-browser (Mandriva) (and 4 other projects) "chromium doesn't recognize icedtea6-plugin (affects: 14) (dups: 1) (heat: 98)" [Unknown,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52924216:40
ftachrisccoulson, hi, ^^ any idea if it's still wanted in lucid? maverick?16:40
chrisccoulsonfta - it's not fixed in ubuntu yet?16:42
ftachrisccoulson, that's my question.. i have a workaround in ch, but is it still needed?16:42
micahgfta: can you update thunderbird to be 3.1 and drop thunderbird 3.1 from the bot?16:42
chrisccoulsonfta - i'll need to check, it's not obvious to me whether it really was fixed in openjdk-6 or not16:43
ftachrisccoulson, if openjdk still builds the plugin with libxul, the workaround is still needed16:43
ftaiirc, maverick should be ok, but no idea for lucid16:43
micahgyeah, Lucid and past version were updated past 1.8-416:45
Dimmuxxopenjdk doesn't work in chrome in lucid if that's what you wanted to know16:45
Dimmuxxor hmm maybe it does now16:46
DimmuxxIt's listed in about:plugins in chrome beta at least16:46
Dimmuxx-e+ium16:47
ftai have the workaround in all PPAs, but not in the official repos, i wanted feedbacks i never got, and as last resort, i planed to ship it in the next stable version, which appeared 2/3 days ago16:47
ftaok, i'll keep it until v6 lands, it's no big deal16:48
ftachrisccoulson, do i still need to file bugs to upgrade chromium?16:55
fta.. filing bugs for myself is just pointless16:55
ftajdstrand, ^^16:56
micahgchrisccoulson: we've got a problem since TB now tries to load system libmoon and libmoon is broke16:57
jdstrandfta: chrisccoulson is talking with the TB about this. he should be the one to respond16:58
ftajdstrand, i have 5.0.375.127~r55887 ready, minus this bugid. http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/08/stable-channel-update_19.html16:59
ftalots of High/Critical..16:59
chrisccoulsonone second, on a call right now17:00
jdstrandfta: imo you should file a bug, put it in the changelog, then provide me with lucid-security packages and we can upload like usual. if we get TB approval before 7 days, we can then just push to lucid-security without waiting17:01
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ftagrr17:05
ftatoo bad 'bzr tags' is not apt sorted17:16
chrisccoulsonfta - we'll have to use the existing process for chromium until we get sign-off from the TB to allow us to change that17:19
chrisccoulson(although the current discussion is encouraging)17:19
chrisccoulsoni'm not sure what the next step is actually, whether it's something that they discuss at the next TB meeting17:20
chrisccoulsonjdstrand might know what happens next ;)17:20
ftachrisccoulson, hm, upstream wants gyp 810 for the stable channel, lucid has 80517:25
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I don't specifically. you could send an email asking? I imagine it will be at the next meeting17:25
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, ok, i'll do that then17:25
chrisccoulsonfta - we'll just have to update gyp as well then. nothing else in the archive uses it does it?17:26
ftanope17:26
ftaat least, i don't think so17:26
chrisccoulsonthat should be ok to update then17:27
ftabug 62282317:33
ubot2Launchpad bug 622823 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "5.0.375.127~r55887 security update (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62282317:34
chrisccoulsonfta - what was the openjdk workaround for chromium?17:34
chrisccoulsonit doesn't look like the openjdk plugin is linking against libxul anymore17:34
ftachrisccoulson, LD_LIBRARY_PATH17:34
ftatoo late17:34
ftaat last, it will auto-close the bug for next time ;)17:35
chrisccoulsonfta - yeah, that's working without the workaround now17:36
ftachrisccoulson, where should i close gyp? lucid-proposed? -updates?17:40
ftaok, used lucid-proposed. i guess i should upload myself then17:43
ftajdstrand, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/5.0.375.127~r55887-0ubuntu0.10.04.1/17:47
jdstrandfta: sweet, thanks :)17:48
ftajdstrand, details in bug 62282317:48
ubot2Launchpad bug 622823 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "5.0.375.127~r55887 security update (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62282317:48
* jdstrand nods17:49
chrisccoulsonhmmm, why on earth is moonlight suddenly crashing thunderbird and firefox :/18:05
ftaBug 62285618:14
ubot2Launchpad bug 622856 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chromium crash when moonlight-plugin-chromium is installed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62285618:14
ftachrisccoulson, ^^18:15
chrisccoulsonfta - interesting, this is also crashing thunderbird and firefox18:15
chrisccoulsonit hasn't changed recently though :/18:16
chrisccoulsonweird weird weird. it crashes in the openjdk plugin when moonlight is installed18:22
chrisccoulsonso, my initial speculation on bug 621563 might be correct18:22
ubot2Launchpad bug 621563 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "SIGSEGV in __static_initialization_and_destruction_0 () (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62156318:22
* chrisccoulson wonders if moonlight corrupts environ18:22
chrisccoulsonvalgrind to the rescue18:23
ftamaybe link the two bugs18:24
chrisccoulsonwow, valgrind + firefox = pain18:38
micahgchrisccoulson: is that why we have so many memory leaks?18:39
chrisccoulsoni don't think so, but running most things in valgrind is pretty painful ;)18:39
micahgfta: is the thunderbird bot change ok?18:40
chrisccoulsonhmmm, firefox-4.0-dbg has no symbols in it :/18:42
ftamicahg, what did you do to the branches?18:47
micahgfta: updated thunderbird to 3.118:47
micahgso we don't need thunderbird-3.1 anymore18:47
micahg3.0 will be dropped soon18:47
micahgand I'll prepare a thunderbird-trunk branch soon18:47
ftaso thunderbird.head is 3.1 now?18:48
micahgfta: cirrect18:48
micahgand it uploaded the stable version, I don't jnow why18:48
ftadone then18:49
micahgfta: thanks18:49
ftacan't delete, lp times out, as usual18:51
micahgfta: don't worry leave it for now, I think thunderbird will FTBFS tonight anyways18:52
micahgI'll fix that in the morning and then delete18:52
micahgfta: we're moving more towards a channel model for the dailies and PPAs, firefox-trunk, firefox-next, firefox, same for TB18:53
ftak18:54
micahgrsavoye: are there any tests on gnash CPU usage vs Flash?18:59
rsavoyenothing official18:59
rsavoyemy own tests show it's usually better than Adobe by a small factor19:00
rsavoyeI plan to focus on performance over the next few months if I can find funding for it19:00
micahgrsavoye: k, thanks19:01
Dimmuxxhttp://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/gnash-088-claims-to-support-all-youtube.html19:02
rsavoyeyes, it should19:02
rsavoyeDimmuxx: having written the release announcement myself :-)19:03
Dimmuxxah ;)19:03
Dimmuxxvaapi seems to work on 720p at least19:03
rsavoyeonly if you build with a recent ffmpeg19:04
rsavoyemy tests have 720p in Chromium running at under 30% cpu load19:04
rsavoyethe problem being it only works for mpeg419:04
Dimmuxxh26419:04
micahgchrisccoulson: do you think the packaging for 4.0 is good enough to make the beta PPA yet?19:05
Dimmuxxit looks like maverick won't have vaapi support for ironlake :/19:05
chrisccoulsonmicahg - nearly, but there's still a few things which don't work (such as system-wide preferences)19:05
micahgchrisccoulson: is that a heavily used feature?19:06
chrisccoulsoni should probably fix the build to ensure that our customized preferences are rolled in to the omni.jar at build time19:06
chrisccoulsonthat's the only thing we really need to fix i think19:06
DimmuxxIs it decided yet what will happen once 4.0 final is out? Will lucid and maverick get it direct or will they stay on 3.6?19:07
chrisccoulsonDimmuxx, they will stay on 3.6 until it approaches EOL19:07
micahgDimmuxx: it will be in Natty19:07
Dimmuxxnatty?19:07
Dimmuxxah next ubuntu19:07
chrisccoulsonyeah, that's maverick+119:07
rsavoyeDimmuxx: the vaapi support is there now for people to play with, but we figure it'll be the next release of most distros before the base packages are distributed19:08
micahgDimmuxx: it'll get into the stable PPA hopefully at upstream release19:08
rsavoyethere are PPAs for libva, etc... on launchpad you can use19:08
Dimmuxxrsavoye: Doesn't libva need to be updated?19:08
rsavoyeit's still unreleased19:09
rsavoyeso I build my own debs for the Gnash repository19:09
Dimmuxxintel have released if offically19:09
DimmuxxI was talking about vaapi support in other apps like vlc etc19:09
rsavoyeonce you install libva and vdpau-video, it works good on lucid and maverick19:09
Dimmuxxmicahg: great, that's what I wanted to hear :)19:09
Dimmuxxrsavoye: not on ironlake19:10
Dimmuxxlibva 1.0.3+ is needed fot that afaik19:10
rsavoyeI'll be working on OMAP and OpenGLES support in the near future, which probably makes more sense19:11
Dimmuxxhttp://intellinuxgraphics.org/h264.html19:12
rsavoyethe other problem with vaapi is it requires ffmpeg, which most distros don't ship19:15
micahgchrisccoulson: so no more dropping rdepends I guess...that should be ok, we're at about 20 now19:19
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micahgchrisccoulson: I'm going to check later on moonlight to see if it's linked against libxul19:26
micahgdpm: were you waiting for an answer from me on something?20:22
dpmhi micahg, no, I don't think so, why is that?20:23
micahgdpm: I remember owing you an answer for something...20:23
dpmmicahg, I'm not sure, but I'm sure It'll come back :) The last thing I was doing related to ff or thunderbird were the translations of the .desktop files, but I think those are nearly all sorted20:24
dpmyou or someone else from the team committed them, IIRC20:25
micahgdpm: oh, upstream for the .desktop files...we're the upstream :)20:25
dpmah, right, yeah, I was asking that some days ago... thanks :)20:25
micahgdpm: so just file bugs against teh distro packages and we'll make sure they get included as soon as possible20:26
dpmcool20:26
dpmstrange that mozilla don't have .desktop files upstream and let each distro have their own...20:26
micahgdpm: mozilla 29656820:30
ubot2Mozilla bug 296568 in Shell Integration "Firefox should have a firefox.desktop file for Linux builds" [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29656820:30
dpmnice, thanks micahg :)20:31
micahgdpm: I wonder how much it would help if we did that though20:32
dpmmicahg, what do you mean, if it would be helpful to have centralized upstream .desktop files?20:38
micahgdpm: I'm wondering if it's something we should try to fix and upstream or just wait for them to do it (i.e. if it's a large benefit for us, maybe try to tackle it next cycle)20:39
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micahgchrisccoulson: how hard to write SC plugins?20:54
chrisccoulsonmicahg - not sure, i've not looked at the plugin API yet20:55
micahgchrisccoulson: k, that might be better than writing our own tool for our PPAs20:56
dpmmicahg, I think it should be "nice to have", as it would be more efficient to have a unique place to have the desktop files rather than every distro shipping their copies, but I'm not sure how much of a big benefit could be to us. We've already have the translations and they are working, and I'm sure there are other higher priorities. I might just add a comment on the upstream bug to see if someone might be interested.20:56
micahgchrisccoulson: besides lightning, anything else we have to do before beta freeze?22:15
* micahg wants to try to update mediatomb, but is unsure if there will be time22:16
* micahg also needs to update gnome-shell to not need a rebuild...22:16
chrisccoulsonmicahg - lightning is the main one. i wouldn't worry too much about gnome-shell, as that can be done closer to release22:18
micahgchrisccoulson: k, will you have time, or do you want me to try22:18
chrisccoulsoni was hoping to do it this week, but i need to get crash reporting working first22:19
chrisccoulsonit seems breakpad doesn't work on ubuntu because of the ptrace restrictions :(22:19
chrisccoulsoni'm trying to fix that atm22:19
micahgchrisccoulson: there were instructions for overriding in the original email22:20
chrisccoulsonyeah, i've just seen a patch for the KDE crash reporter, which seems to do what i want22:20
chrisccoulsoni need to figure out breakpad now ;)22:20
micahgk, I can try a quick look tonight when I get home, I'll grab the thunderbird packaging and see if I can get a tarball to build for lightning...22:21
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