| Adri2000 | hi everyone | 08:02 |
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| Adri2000 | could anyone telle me what's is blocking bug #532232 ? are we just missing someone to create the package or is there something else? | 08:04 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 532232 in lightning-sunbird (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[MASTER] Please update lightning extension to version 1.0 for use with Thunderbird 3 (affects: 62) (dups: 4) (heat: 357)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532232 | 08:04 |
| Adri2000 | s/telle/tell/ | 08:05 |
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| * gnomefreak tries tb31 | 12:05 | |
| gnomefreak | yay it works agin | 12:06 |
| gnomefreak | it seems it wants to work only when it feels like | 12:38 |
| gnomefreak | i cant get tb31 daily to open again. it worked once this morning | 12:53 |
| Adri2000 | so noone knows what's the status of the lightning package? :o | 14:40 |
| gnomefreak | it is on our to do list atm | 14:48 |
| * gnomefreak doesnt have a lot of time to put into it anymore. | 14:49 | |
| gnomefreak | right now we are working on landing tb31 and ff4 into Maverick | 14:50 |
| gnomefreak | Milos_SD: thunderbird-3.1 worked once this morning but it hasnt worked since than | 14:51 |
| gnomefreak | damnit | 14:52 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: ^^^ | 14:52 |
| chrisccoulson | Adri2000, that's actually on my list this week | 15:00 |
| Adri2000 | chrisccoulson: great news :) | 15:00 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: no FF4 in maverick | 15:19 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: TB 3.1 is in maverick | 15:19 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: BTW, they have the fix for xul20 FTBFS upstream, hopefully it'll land today | 15:23 |
| chrisccoulson | cool! | 15:24 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: we are not getting ff4 in Maverick? | 15:27 |
| gnomefreak | i was ina pissy mood and aim starts when i log into windows | 15:29 |
| gnomefreak | damn | 15:29 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: no, it'll be in natty | 15:29 |
| gnomefreak | oh damn | 15:29 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: they're not even feature frozen yet, so there was no way to port all the apps | 15:29 |
| gnomefreak | i thought FF was last week but i dont remember. once tb3.1 starts working i will know for sure | 15:30 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: it'll be in the firefox-stable PPA though, we'll have a firefox-next PPA as well soon | 15:30 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: our FF was 10 days ago | 15:30 |
| gnomefreak | maybe that is it | 15:31 |
| * chrisccoulson craps whip on micahg from smallfoot | 15:32 | |
| chrisccoulson | heh ;) | 15:32 |
| micahg | heh | 15:32 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: can you take a quick look at the debdiff in bug 614912 | 15:35 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 614912 in flashplugin-nonfree (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Fix description after 10.1.53.64ubuntu2 update (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614912 | 15:35 |
| micahg | tumbleweed can upload, but I just want to be sure the changes I made are ok | 15:36 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, that looks ok | 15:37 |
| * gnomefreak gets the feeling enigmail is causing tb31 no start issue | 15:37 | |
| gnomefreak | micahg: after running tb31 in -safe-mode than close than tb31 works fine out of safemode | 15:39 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: well, which one are you running? | 15:39 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: daily | 15:39 |
| micahg | which daily? | 15:39 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: tb31 | 15:40 |
| * micahg needs fta to come back to fix thunderbird | 15:40 | |
| gnomefreak | engimal from your PPA | 15:40 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: yeah, it's missing the symlink patch, was hoping fta would come back... | 15:40 |
| gnomefreak | ok | 15:40 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: I'll add it | 15:40 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: ok i ddidnt know if you knew is all | 15:41 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: k, added | 15:44 |
| gnomefreak | that was fast | 15:44 |
| gnomefreak | still need to build | 15:45 |
| gnomefreak | there is no way to run in debug mode at least --help doesnt list it | 15:45 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I'm guessing if we added some symlink magic it wouldn't be enough, for pyxpcom, right? | 16:00 |
| chrisccoulson | probably not. we should avoid installing things in to application directories if we can | 16:00 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: well, I would say have pyxpcom install in its own dir and xulrunner can manage the symlinks to itself | 16:01 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure if that would work would it? that would imply that xulrunner would need to have some knowledge about pyxpcom wouldn't it? | 16:01 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: yes | 16:02 |
| micahg | maybe we can create a pyxpcom trigger | 16:02 |
| fta | bug 529242 | 16:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 529242 in chromium-browser (Mandriva) (and 4 other projects) "chromium doesn't recognize icedtea6-plugin (affects: 14) (dups: 1) (heat: 98)" [Unknown,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529242 | 16:40 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, hi, ^^ any idea if it's still wanted in lucid? maverick? | 16:40 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - it's not fixed in ubuntu yet? | 16:42 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, that's my question.. i have a workaround in ch, but is it still needed? | 16:42 |
| micahg | fta: can you update thunderbird to be 3.1 and drop thunderbird 3.1 from the bot? | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - i'll need to check, it's not obvious to me whether it really was fixed in openjdk-6 or not | 16:43 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, if openjdk still builds the plugin with libxul, the workaround is still needed | 16:43 |
| fta | iirc, maverick should be ok, but no idea for lucid | 16:43 |
| micahg | yeah, Lucid and past version were updated past 1.8-4 | 16:45 |
| Dimmuxx | openjdk doesn't work in chrome in lucid if that's what you wanted to know | 16:45 |
| Dimmuxx | or hmm maybe it does now | 16:46 |
| Dimmuxx | It's listed in about:plugins in chrome beta at least | 16:46 |
| Dimmuxx | -e+ium | 16:47 |
| fta | i have the workaround in all PPAs, but not in the official repos, i wanted feedbacks i never got, and as last resort, i planed to ship it in the next stable version, which appeared 2/3 days ago | 16:47 |
| fta | ok, i'll keep it until v6 lands, it's no big deal | 16:48 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, do i still need to file bugs to upgrade chromium? | 16:55 |
| fta | .. filing bugs for myself is just pointless | 16:55 |
| fta | jdstrand, ^^ | 16:56 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: we've got a problem since TB now tries to load system libmoon and libmoon is broke | 16:57 |
| jdstrand | fta: chrisccoulson is talking with the TB about this. he should be the one to respond | 16:58 |
| fta | jdstrand, i have 5.0.375.127~r55887 ready, minus this bugid. http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/08/stable-channel-update_19.html | 16:59 |
| fta | lots of High/Critical.. | 16:59 |
| chrisccoulson | one second, on a call right now | 17:00 |
| jdstrand | fta: imo you should file a bug, put it in the changelog, then provide me with lucid-security packages and we can upload like usual. if we get TB approval before 7 days, we can then just push to lucid-security without waiting | 17:01 |
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| fta | grr | 17:05 |
| fta | too bad 'bzr tags' is not apt sorted | 17:16 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - we'll have to use the existing process for chromium until we get sign-off from the TB to allow us to change that | 17:19 |
| chrisccoulson | (although the current discussion is encouraging) | 17:19 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure what the next step is actually, whether it's something that they discuss at the next TB meeting | 17:20 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand might know what happens next ;) | 17:20 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, hm, upstream wants gyp 810 for the stable channel, lucid has 805 | 17:25 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I don't specifically. you could send an email asking? I imagine it will be at the next meeting | 17:25 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, ok, i'll do that then | 17:25 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - we'll just have to update gyp as well then. nothing else in the archive uses it does it? | 17:26 |
| fta | nope | 17:26 |
| fta | at least, i don't think so | 17:26 |
| chrisccoulson | that should be ok to update then | 17:27 |
| fta | bug 622823 | 17:33 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 622823 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "5.0.375.127~r55887 security update (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622823 | 17:34 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - what was the openjdk workaround for chromium? | 17:34 |
| chrisccoulson | it doesn't look like the openjdk plugin is linking against libxul anymore | 17:34 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, LD_LIBRARY_PATH | 17:34 |
| fta | too late | 17:34 |
| fta | at last, it will auto-close the bug for next time ;) | 17:35 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - yeah, that's working without the workaround now | 17:36 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, where should i close gyp? lucid-proposed? -updates? | 17:40 |
| fta | ok, used lucid-proposed. i guess i should upload myself then | 17:43 |
| fta | jdstrand, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/5.0.375.127~r55887-0ubuntu0.10.04.1/ | 17:47 |
| jdstrand | fta: sweet, thanks :) | 17:48 |
| fta | jdstrand, details in bug 622823 | 17:48 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 622823 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "5.0.375.127~r55887 security update (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622823 | 17:48 |
| * jdstrand nods | 17:49 | |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, why on earth is moonlight suddenly crashing thunderbird and firefox :/ | 18:05 |
| fta | Bug 622856 | 18:14 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 622856 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chromium crash when moonlight-plugin-chromium is installed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622856 | 18:14 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, ^^ | 18:15 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - interesting, this is also crashing thunderbird and firefox | 18:15 |
| chrisccoulson | it hasn't changed recently though :/ | 18:16 |
| chrisccoulson | weird weird weird. it crashes in the openjdk plugin when moonlight is installed | 18:22 |
| chrisccoulson | so, my initial speculation on bug 621563 might be correct | 18:22 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 621563 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "SIGSEGV in __static_initialization_and_destruction_0 () (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/621563 | 18:22 |
| * chrisccoulson wonders if moonlight corrupts environ | 18:22 | |
| chrisccoulson | valgrind to the rescue | 18:23 |
| fta | maybe link the two bugs | 18:24 |
| chrisccoulson | wow, valgrind + firefox = pain | 18:38 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: is that why we have so many memory leaks? | 18:39 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't think so, but running most things in valgrind is pretty painful ;) | 18:39 |
| micahg | fta: is the thunderbird bot change ok? | 18:40 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, firefox-4.0-dbg has no symbols in it :/ | 18:42 |
| fta | micahg, what did you do to the branches? | 18:47 |
| micahg | fta: updated thunderbird to 3.1 | 18:47 |
| micahg | so we don't need thunderbird-3.1 anymore | 18:47 |
| micahg | 3.0 will be dropped soon | 18:47 |
| micahg | and I'll prepare a thunderbird-trunk branch soon | 18:47 |
| fta | so thunderbird.head is 3.1 now? | 18:48 |
| micahg | fta: cirrect | 18:48 |
| micahg | and it uploaded the stable version, I don't jnow why | 18:48 |
| fta | done then | 18:49 |
| micahg | fta: thanks | 18:49 |
| fta | can't delete, lp times out, as usual | 18:51 |
| micahg | fta: don't worry leave it for now, I think thunderbird will FTBFS tonight anyways | 18:52 |
| micahg | I'll fix that in the morning and then delete | 18:52 |
| micahg | fta: we're moving more towards a channel model for the dailies and PPAs, firefox-trunk, firefox-next, firefox, same for TB | 18:53 |
| fta | k | 18:54 |
| micahg | rsavoye: are there any tests on gnash CPU usage vs Flash? | 18:59 |
| rsavoye | nothing official | 18:59 |
| rsavoye | my own tests show it's usually better than Adobe by a small factor | 19:00 |
| rsavoye | I plan to focus on performance over the next few months if I can find funding for it | 19:00 |
| micahg | rsavoye: k, thanks | 19:01 |
| Dimmuxx | http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/gnash-088-claims-to-support-all-youtube.html | 19:02 |
| rsavoye | yes, it should | 19:02 |
| rsavoye | Dimmuxx: having written the release announcement myself :-) | 19:03 |
| Dimmuxx | ah ;) | 19:03 |
| Dimmuxx | vaapi seems to work on 720p at least | 19:03 |
| rsavoye | only if you build with a recent ffmpeg | 19:04 |
| rsavoye | my tests have 720p in Chromium running at under 30% cpu load | 19:04 |
| rsavoye | the problem being it only works for mpeg4 | 19:04 |
| Dimmuxx | h264 | 19:04 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: do you think the packaging for 4.0 is good enough to make the beta PPA yet? | 19:05 |
| Dimmuxx | it looks like maverick won't have vaapi support for ironlake :/ | 19:05 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - nearly, but there's still a few things which don't work (such as system-wide preferences) | 19:05 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: is that a heavily used feature? | 19:06 |
| chrisccoulson | i should probably fix the build to ensure that our customized preferences are rolled in to the omni.jar at build time | 19:06 |
| chrisccoulson | that's the only thing we really need to fix i think | 19:06 |
| Dimmuxx | Is it decided yet what will happen once 4.0 final is out? Will lucid and maverick get it direct or will they stay on 3.6? | 19:07 |
| chrisccoulson | Dimmuxx, they will stay on 3.6 until it approaches EOL | 19:07 |
| micahg | Dimmuxx: it will be in Natty | 19:07 |
| Dimmuxx | natty? | 19:07 |
| Dimmuxx | ah next ubuntu | 19:07 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that's maverick+1 | 19:07 |
| rsavoye | Dimmuxx: the vaapi support is there now for people to play with, but we figure it'll be the next release of most distros before the base packages are distributed | 19:08 |
| micahg | Dimmuxx: it'll get into the stable PPA hopefully at upstream release | 19:08 |
| rsavoye | there are PPAs for libva, etc... on launchpad you can use | 19:08 |
| Dimmuxx | rsavoye: Doesn't libva need to be updated? | 19:08 |
| rsavoye | it's still unreleased | 19:09 |
| rsavoye | so I build my own debs for the Gnash repository | 19:09 |
| Dimmuxx | intel have released if offically | 19:09 |
| Dimmuxx | I was talking about vaapi support in other apps like vlc etc | 19:09 |
| rsavoye | once you install libva and vdpau-video, it works good on lucid and maverick | 19:09 |
| Dimmuxx | micahg: great, that's what I wanted to hear :) | 19:09 |
| Dimmuxx | rsavoye: not on ironlake | 19:10 |
| Dimmuxx | libva 1.0.3+ is needed fot that afaik | 19:10 |
| rsavoye | I'll be working on OMAP and OpenGLES support in the near future, which probably makes more sense | 19:11 |
| Dimmuxx | http://intellinuxgraphics.org/h264.html | 19:12 |
| rsavoye | the other problem with vaapi is it requires ffmpeg, which most distros don't ship | 19:15 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: so no more dropping rdepends I guess...that should be ok, we're at about 20 now | 19:19 |
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| micahg | chrisccoulson: I'm going to check later on moonlight to see if it's linked against libxul | 19:26 |
| micahg | dpm: were you waiting for an answer from me on something? | 20:22 |
| dpm | hi micahg, no, I don't think so, why is that? | 20:23 |
| micahg | dpm: I remember owing you an answer for something... | 20:23 |
| dpm | micahg, I'm not sure, but I'm sure It'll come back :) The last thing I was doing related to ff or thunderbird were the translations of the .desktop files, but I think those are nearly all sorted | 20:24 |
| dpm | you or someone else from the team committed them, IIRC | 20:25 |
| micahg | dpm: oh, upstream for the .desktop files...we're the upstream :) | 20:25 |
| dpm | ah, right, yeah, I was asking that some days ago... thanks :) | 20:25 |
| micahg | dpm: so just file bugs against teh distro packages and we'll make sure they get included as soon as possible | 20:26 |
| dpm | cool | 20:26 |
| dpm | strange that mozilla don't have .desktop files upstream and let each distro have their own... | 20:26 |
| micahg | dpm: mozilla 296568 | 20:30 |
| ubot2 | Mozilla bug 296568 in Shell Integration "Firefox should have a firefox.desktop file for Linux builds" [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=296568 | 20:30 |
| dpm | nice, thanks micahg :) | 20:31 |
| micahg | dpm: I wonder how much it would help if we did that though | 20:32 |
| dpm | micahg, what do you mean, if it would be helpful to have centralized upstream .desktop files? | 20:38 |
| micahg | dpm: I'm wondering if it's something we should try to fix and upstream or just wait for them to do it (i.e. if it's a large benefit for us, maybe try to tackle it next cycle) | 20:39 |
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| micahg | chrisccoulson: how hard to write SC plugins? | 20:54 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - not sure, i've not looked at the plugin API yet | 20:55 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, that might be better than writing our own tool for our PPAs | 20:56 |
| dpm | micahg, I think it should be "nice to have", as it would be more efficient to have a unique place to have the desktop files rather than every distro shipping their copies, but I'm not sure how much of a big benefit could be to us. We've already have the translations and they are working, and I'm sure there are other higher priorities. I might just add a comment on the upstream bug to see if someone might be interested. | 20:56 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: besides lightning, anything else we have to do before beta freeze? | 22:15 |
| * micahg wants to try to update mediatomb, but is unsure if there will be time | 22:16 | |
| * micahg also needs to update gnome-shell to not need a rebuild... | 22:16 | |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - lightning is the main one. i wouldn't worry too much about gnome-shell, as that can be done closer to release | 22:18 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, will you have time, or do you want me to try | 22:18 |
| chrisccoulson | i was hoping to do it this week, but i need to get crash reporting working first | 22:19 |
| chrisccoulson | it seems breakpad doesn't work on ubuntu because of the ptrace restrictions :( | 22:19 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm trying to fix that atm | 22:19 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: there were instructions for overriding in the original email | 22:20 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i've just seen a patch for the KDE crash reporter, which seems to do what i want | 22:20 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to figure out breakpad now ;) | 22:20 |
| micahg | k, I can try a quick look tonight when I get home, I'll grab the thunderbird packaging and see if I can get a tarball to build for lightning... | 22:21 |
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