[15:18] <satellit_> dfarning: I hope it is ok I uploaded http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/USR-i386-20100804.iso for a temp DL site with http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Surf-115.xo
[15:18] <satellit_> since they work fine
[15:18] <dfarning> satellit_, thanks.
[15:20] <satellit_> tested here for activities: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table#Activity_Test_Results
[15:28] <satellit_> dfarning: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sugar  still lists http://people.sugarlabs.org/dfarning/ as Download site....has http://people.sugarlabs.org/dfarning/USR-i386-20100208.iso  anyway to update this? to 804?
[15:29] <satellit_> copy from Tgilliard to your sunjammer site...
[15:29] <dfarning> satellit_, better yet, you can point the wiki to your site:)
[15:30] <satellit_> not sure I have access...
[15:30] <satellit_> will try
[15:30] <dfarning> satellit_, I think you have a much better understanding of ISOs than I do.
[15:31] <lfaraone> morning dfarning.
[15:31] <dipankar> dfarning, hello. Good morning
[15:31] <dipankar> lfaraone, hey, good morning
[15:31] <dfarning> lfaraone, dipankar good morning
[15:33] <dipankar> dfarning, I need your help a bit. It would be great if you could please edit the bug description, and add the required information: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-0.88/+bug/621896
[15:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 621896 in sugar-0.88 (Ubuntu) "Sugar emulator crashes while copying file from usb drive to journal (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Incomplete]
[15:35] <dfarning> dipankar, sure it will take a while.
[15:35] <dipankar> dfarning, thanks a lot!
[15:39] <lfaraone> dfarning: I'll author an email explaining the status of Browse/Surf in Ubuntu as I understand it.
[15:39] <dfarning> lfaraone, thanks.
[15:46] <satellit_> dfarning: done https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sugar  changed links
[15:47] <dfarning> satellit_, thanks
[15:47] <satellit_> yw
[17:57] <dipankar> dfarning, around?
[17:57] <dfarning> dipankar, yes
[17:59] <dipankar> dfarning, I was thinking if I can add the info on the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-0.88/+bug/621896 myself :)
[17:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 621896 in sugar-0.88 (Ubuntu) "Sugar emulator crashes while copying file from usb drive to journal (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Incomplete]
[17:59] <dipankar> dfarning, for that I need some pointers, how did that bug happen? and what were the actions that you performed.
[18:00] <dfarning> dipankar, I am sorry that will not get to that until tommorrow.  manusheel and I are doing stratigic planing base on what I learned in PY:)
[18:01] <dfarning> dipankar, I will start daily operations stuff tomorrow.
[18:01] <dipankar> dfarning, no problem :) you can just tell me what you did in short to reproduce the bug. I will add them to the bug :)
[18:03] <dipankar> dfarning, oops. sorry. I think I missed your last statement. No problem
[18:03] <dfarning> dipankar, I just droped and dragged some icons from the journal to the USB icon in the lower left of the frame.  After a couple of times sugar crashed and the errorlog was the last error sent.
[18:03] <dipankar> dfarning, thanks for taking out some time. I will add it to the bug right now
[18:03] <dfarning> dipankar, thanks.
[18:04] <dipankar> dfarning, whats PY btw? sorry for my ignorance
[18:04] <dfarning> dipankar, Paraguay.
[18:05] <dfarning> dipankar, UY is uraguay.
[18:05] <dipankar> dfarning, ohk. Nice short forms.  :)
[18:19] <dipankar> lfaraone, I have changed the description of bug on lp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-0.88/+bug/621896
[18:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 621896 in sugar-0.88 (Ubuntu) "Sugar emulator crashes while copying file from usb drive to journal (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,New]
[18:36] <manusheel> alsroot: Hi Aleksey.
[18:37] <manusheel> Around?
[18:37] <alsroot> manusheel: hi
[18:42] <manusheel> alsroot: Can you join #seeta channel too?
[18:43] <dipankar> alsroot, hi, good morning
[18:43] <manusheel> alsroot: Thank you. Appreciate it.
[18:43] <alsroot> np
[18:47] <dipankar> alsroot, around?
[18:47] <alsroot> dipankar: yup
[18:48] <dipankar> alsroot, I am working on a feature request "Allow multiple file operations in journal"
[18:48] <dipankar> alsroot, I need to learn about copying specifically
[18:49] <dipankar> alsroot, I found the package to be sugar-0.88, but how do I know, rather how do I track the exact file?
[18:49] <dipankar> alsroot, by now, I have just reached to the folder /src/journal
[18:49] <dipankar> is it correct folder to start with any journal operation?
[18:51] <alsroot> dipankar: in any case you need to know how to write file to/from ds
[18:52] <alsroot> dipankar: you can find ds related code in sugar-tolkit, in src/sugar/datastore
[18:52] <dipankar> * ds -> datastore?
[18:53] <alsroot> dipankar: yup
[18:54] <alsroot> dipankar: or, if you prefer, look into sugar, src/jarabe/journal/model.py:write()
[18:54] <alsroot> it does the same
[18:55] <alsroot> dipankar: in the same file, there is cope() function, to know how to implement copy related feature in UI, just grep for copy invocation
[18:55] <alsroot> *copy()
[18:56] <dipankar> alsroot, thanks, I will get back to you in secs. * I remember, you are the journal maintainer
[19:07] <dipankar> alsroot, I am trying to understand the code
[19:07] <dipankar> alsroot, copy func needs two things : metadata and mount_point
[19:11] <alsroot> dipankar: yup, "/" mountpoint means ds
[19:12] <dipankar> alsroot, so this copy is actually the one for copy to clipboard (right click one) or the copy to a usb (drag and drop)
[19:13] <alsroot> dipankar: that doesn't matter, just object metadata is pointing to (it could ds or non-ds object)
[19:15] <dipankar> alsroot, that means the cases that we want depend on the argument sent?
[19:15] <dipankar> for mount_point?
[19:16] <alsroot> dipankar: yup, mount_point is destination
[19:18] <dipankar> alsroot, the feature request says " to allow multiple files working at same time"
[19:19] <dipankar> alsroot, how can this be done, any pointers?
[19:20] <alsroot> dipankar: in fact, from ds side, you can use async dbus calls
[19:20] <dipankar> alsroot, like somewhat similar to multi threading?
[19:21] <alsroot> dipankar: for fs, you need to use gio I think
[19:21] <alsroot> dipankar: nope, dbus will use glib main loop
[19:21] <alsroot> ..gio as well
[19:22] <alsroot> http://library.gnome.org/devel/glib/stable/glib-The-Main-Event-Loop.html
[19:23] <alsroot> see also http://library.gnome.org/devel/gio/stable/
[19:28] <ebordon> hi all
[19:29] <ebordon> can I install usr from usb key?
[19:35] <dipankar> ebordon, hi
[19:36] <dipankar> alsroot, thats a bit confusing
[19:36] <dipankar> :(
[19:36] <ebordon> dipankar: how are you?
[19:36] <dipankar> ebordon, I am doing great. How are you?
[19:37] <dipankar> ebordon, I think dfarning is not here at the moment. could you please tell me what you mean by 'usb key'?
[19:37] <ebordon> dipankar: I'm fine, I'm trying to install usr on a classmate :o
[19:37] <alsroot> dipankar: well, it is basic thing that every gobject/gtk developer should know
[19:38] <alsroot> ..I mean about loops
[19:38] <neeraj> lfaraone: hi.
[19:38] <dipankar> alsroot, ohk, I will go through it once again.
[19:38] <ebordon> dipankar: Laptop that I want to install usr haven't cd reader
[19:39] <ebordon> dipankar: and i want install it from a pendrive
[19:39] <dipankar> ebordon, ohk. Do you have a desktop or another laptop?
[19:41] <ebordon> dipankar: laptop (classmate JumPc) with ubuntu
[19:41] <ebordon> dipankar: I think 9.10
[19:41] <lfaraone> neeraj: yes?
[19:42] <neeraj> lfaraone: regarding mouse bug. I have added the patch on LP. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-0.88/+bug/511225
[19:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 511225 in sugar-0.88 (Ubuntu) "running sugar causes left-click not to work properly in GNOME (affects: 2) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[19:43] <ebordon> dipankar: sorry for my english, it is really bad
[19:43] <neeraj> lfaraone: as the patch is already present in sugarlabs, we don't need it to send it there.
[19:44] <dipankar> ebordon, your english is absolutely fine :) don't worry about that. I am thinking of a simplest way to install usr
[19:45] <lfaraone> neeraj: great. was it cherrypicked from upstream, did you author it yourself, etc.
[19:45] <dipankar> ebordon, you can use synaptic package manager if you want.
[19:45] <lfaraone> neeraj: looking at the patch, it looks like you wrote it yourself.
[19:45] <dipankar> ebordon, but I would suggest you upgrade to ubuntu 10.04
[19:46] <neeraj> lfaraone: yes.  didn't know how to do otherway..
[19:46] <ebordon> dipankar: ok
[19:46] <lfaraone> neeraj: okay. so you adapted the patch from what was already shipped upstream in Sugar?
[19:47] <satellit_> ebordon: use another computer to make USB with startup Disk Creator /system/administration from booted CD choose USB
[19:48] <neeraj> lfaraone: yes. I have mentioned it in .patch file. We can always unapply the patch when we will update sugar via sugarlabs->debian->ubuntu. Can't we.
[19:48] <satellit_> (other computer has CD you can boot from)
[19:48] <neeraj> *?
[19:48] <ebordon> dipankar: I'm still downloading usr
[19:49] <satellit_> look at revised https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sugar  for links
[19:49] <dipankar> ebordon, I was about to suggest what satellit_ told
[19:49] <dipankar> satellit_, thanks :)
[19:49] <lfaraone> neeraj: oh, right, hehe.
[19:49] <satellit_> yw
[19:50] <lfaraone> neeraj: /whois aleskey
[19:50] <lfaraone> (oops)
[19:50] <satellit_> dipankar: I revised that page today to reflect surf 115 and 804 USR links
[19:51] <dipankar> satellit_, thats wonderful! finally the page is revised with updates
[19:51] <ebordon> thanks satellit_
[19:51] <neeraj> lfaraone: ok. I should have used full name. Sorry for that. Re-submitting patch
[19:51] <satellit_> david said  it was ok to revise it
[19:51] <lfaraone> neeraj: no, hold on.
[19:51] <neeraj> lfaraone: ok
[19:52] <lfaraone> neeraj: since the patch wasn't written by you, rather than using your name in "From:", you probably should credit alsroot as the creator with "Author: Aleksey Lim <alsroot@member.fsf.org>"
[19:53] <lfaraone> neeraj: and rather than just providing a bug ## in the description, use "Bug: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/path/to/the/bug/URL/on/our/tracker"
[19:54] <neeraj> lfaraone: ok :)
[19:54] <lfaraone> neeraj: and since it was cherrypicked, the "Forwarded" field isn't needed. (it'll be set to "yes" implictly if you include "Bug:")
[19:54] <lfaraone> neeraj: if you want extra bonus brownie points, include "Bug-Ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-0.88/+bug/621896" as well.
[19:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 621896 in sugar-0.88 (Ubuntu) "Sugar emulator crashes while copying file from usb drive to journal (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,New]
[19:55] <lfaraone> (in the patch header)
[20:01] <neeraj> lfaraone: ok. let me confirm. U want to me to add Bug-Ubuntu: (Link to mouse bug on LP) in .patch file. Right?
[20:02] <dipankar> alsroot, thanks for the pointers
[20:02] <dipankar> alsroot, I will get back to you after I understand them properly
[20:02] <lfaraone> neeraj: in addition to adding "Bug: (Link to the mouse bug on SL)".
[20:02] <neeraj> lfaraone: yes.
[20:03] <lfaraone> neeraj: yes.
[20:03] <neeraj> lfaraone: Can you please see if I missed anything this time. http://typewith.me/clJSy0SxkG
[20:05] <alsroot> dipankar: about gio, you can look into ASLO updater (updater control panel component), but it is only about downloading (but it should work similar for uploading)
[20:06] <satellitUSR-804> works  Ubuntu 10,04 LTS
[20:08] <dipankar> alsroot, ok. I thought gtk was related to window decoration.
[20:09] <dipankar> but gtk is widget programming
[20:10] <alsroot> dipankar: gtk does, but glib (underlying library and gobject itself) is more common library
[20:15] <dipankar> alsroot, gtk, glib and gio
[20:16] <dipankar> alsroot, thanks again for the pointers
[20:16] <dipankar> alsroot, see you tomorrow
[20:17]  * dipankar is off for the night
[20:57] <lfaraone> alsroot: so has sugarlabs bug #1544 been merged yet?
[20:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1544 in launchpad-registry "Choosing a source package to link a product series should use a selection widget" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1544
[20:57] <alsroot> lfaraone: nope
[20:58] <lfaraone> alsroot: seriously? it's been sitting in the tracker for 4 months.
[20:58] <lfaraone> alsroot: oh, it doesn't have r?...
[20:59]  * alsroot thinks better to wait a bit for 1y :)
[20:59]  * alsroot pings erokos
[21:00] <lfaraone> alsroot: heh. tomeu is listed as the bug owner.
[22:45] <lfaraone> neeraj: looks okay, althiugh I'd move the "Bug" fields higher above the free-form text,
[22:46] <lfaraone> neeraj: but I can do that manually.