| shadeslayer | Riddell: lex might return during the weekend.. just when im planning to drop off for a week :P http://pastebin.com/niw2AH12 | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| Riddell | shadeslayer: tell him to apply for UDS | 00:06 |
| shadeslayer | right on | 00:07 |
| shadeslayer | sent | 00:08 |
| * shadeslayer wonders why his 8085 sim wont run | 00:09 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: when will we get confirmation of our sponsorships? | 00:16 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 00:16 |
| maco | shadeslayer: they'e /very/ behind this year | 00:17 |
| shadeslayer | maco: i dont follow | 00:17 |
| shadeslayer | behind as in? | 00:17 |
| maco | uds barcelona...confirmation was 2 months before uds. this uds... we're 2 months out right now and they JUST announced sponsorship opening | 00:17 |
| shadeslayer | oic | 00:17 |
| * shadeslayer hopes it really gets postponed by one weel | 00:18 | |
| shadeslayer | *week | 00:18 |
| maco | cant do that with hotel reservations... | 00:18 |
| shadeslayer | nothing bad.. just that itll make my life much easier :P | 00:18 |
| shadeslayer | maco: i know... | 00:18 |
| shadeslayer | but im hoping for the best :P | 00:18 |
| shadeslayer | ok now i have a headache.... @ 5 AM in the morning | 00:19 |
| shadeslayer | im going to sleep.. ASM gave me this headache, im sure | 00:19 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 00:21 |
| shadeslayer | Stop to screw up Kubuntu, go to bed is too late for you!!! :D << from lex | 00:21 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 00:21 |
| shadeslayer | so... cya everybody... in another 3-4 hours | 00:22 |
| === nuno_ is now known as slug | ||
| valorie | I just bought a new HD to use for backup today | 03:45 |
| valorie | in advance of global jam this weekend, when I'll upgrade | 03:46 |
| valorie | any hints on how best to reformat it in kubuntu | 03:46 |
| valorie | and what backup software to use? | 03:46 |
| valorie | it's a seagate FreeAgent 1.5T | 03:47 |
| valorie | which I gather isn't very linux friendly | 03:47 |
| valorie | off to the library, and then back to googling, I guess | 03:51 |
| === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero | ||
| rbelem | apachelogger, Riddell, ScottK, can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/623137 http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=8529 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-mobile/+bug/623142 | 06:16 |
| rbelem | :-) | 06:16 |
| artnay | I know the translation day was already but I just found this out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/marble/+bug/623175 | 07:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 623175 in marble (Ubuntu) "Marble's translation templates are not up-to-date" [Undecided,New] | 07:39 |
| apachelogger | hmmmm | 08:14 |
| apachelogger | 25th to 29th that even ought to be possible | 08:15 |
| Nightrose | hah | 08:18 |
| Nightrose | that's right after the gsoc mentor summit | 08:18 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: you could attend then? ^^ | 08:19 |
| apachelogger | since you are in the US anyway | 08:19 |
| * apachelogger pokes artnay with the invalidstick :P | 08:19 | |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: i want to be in boston that week tbh to visit jeff but orlando sounds tempting really | 08:19 |
| apachelogger | I have no idea where either is | 08:19 |
| Nightrose | visiting jeff would be boston | 08:19 |
| apachelogger | as long as it is not texas I should be fine supposedly | 08:19 |
| Nightrose | but i could possibly do that before the mentor summit | 08:20 |
| Nightrose | then mentor summit and then uds | 08:20 |
| Nightrose | hmmmmmm | 08:20 |
| Nightrose | that would be one insane travel... | 08:20 |
| apachelogger | but fun for sure | 08:21 |
| Nightrose | i guess so yes | 08:21 |
| apachelogger | oh dear, orlando is in florida | 08:21 |
| Nightrose | it is - i'd be going east-coast - west-coast - east cost | 08:21 |
| Nightrose | -> fun | 08:21 |
| Nightrose | :P | 08:21 |
| apachelogger | does one get arrested for indecent behaviour in florida? :P | 08:21 |
| Nightrose | hehe | 08:22 |
| apachelogger | oha! | 08:22 |
| * apachelogger needs to get a new passport then | 08:22 | |
| apachelogger | mine is not valid for travels to the US ^^ | 08:22 |
| maco | apachelogger: orlando is where disney is | 08:23 |
| apachelogger | are we going to do a day trip to disney then? | 08:23 |
| Nightrose | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 08:23 |
| Nightrose | i'm so going! :D | 08:23 |
| maco | we were talking about disney in #ubuntu-devel and slangasek goes "what better epilogue to a free software event than to worship at the altar of perpetual copyright?" | 08:23 |
| apachelogger | does one get arrested for indecent behaviour at disney world? | 08:24 |
| Nightrose | maco: rofl | 08:24 |
| maco | i said i was thinking we go to disney on sunday before uds that way uds can be penancee | 08:24 |
| apachelogger | what better epilogue to a free software event by getting sponsored there by a company that sucks free software dry and producing prop software, eh? :P | 08:24 |
| * apachelogger better hopes no one reas that or sponsorship is out of question :P | 08:25 | |
| * Nightrose huggls apachelogger | 08:25 | |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 08:25 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 08:25 |
| * apachelogger rehuggles Nightrose and distributes kisses throughout the chann0l | 08:25 | |
| Nightrose | wohoooo | 08:25 |
| apachelogger | http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/ | 08:26 |
| apachelogger | uh | 08:27 |
| apachelogger | halloween parteee | 08:27 |
| Nightrose | ohhhhmy | 08:27 |
| apachelogger | fairy treasures!!!! | 08:27 |
| apachelogger | omg!!! | 08:27 |
| apachelogger | weeeeh | 08:27 |
| Nightrose | :D | 08:28 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/482786/ | 08:32 |
| persia | Who ends up being the counterparty for the CC-SA-3.0 license if one signs that? | 08:36 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 08:37 |
| apachelogger | pfff | 08:40 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: ^ can you please drop an opinion on that? :) | 08:40 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: https://fedorahosted.org/python-slip/browser/slip/dbus/polkit.py looks more convenient than the aptdaemon thing | 08:41 |
| * persia suspects that it's a non-actionable agreement without that information, such that it doesn't matter if one signs or not (as one hasn't released rights to any specific counterparty), although I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't true in some jurisdiction (perhaps with the state as default counterparty or similar) | 08:42 | |
| apachelogger | persia: it is from the uds sponsorship page | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | so supposedly the counterpart is canonical, but that is rather implicit IMHO | 08:43 |
| persia | Implicit counterparties are a fuzzy area, and highly jurisdiction-dependent. That said, it would be bad form to sue someone for your UDS appearance, given the number of audio streams, video streams, photographs, etc. | 08:45 |
| apachelogger | I do not like "release any and all claims whatsoever" things of any sort | 08:51 |
| apachelogger | !find decorator.py | 08:53 |
| ubottu | File decorator.py found in bzr, checkbox, firmware-tools, fso-frameworkd, gnome-orca (and 14 others) | 08:53 |
| apachelogger | hm | 08:55 |
| persia | apachelogger, Maybe offer an open CC-SA-3.0 license for the representations to the implied counterparty? I'd be surprised if there was an issue (although I may be mistaken) | 08:55 |
| apachelogger | well, since you cannot use the sponsorship without agreeing to above pasted release ... :/ | 08:56 |
| * apachelogger got polkit in pyth0rn \\o/ | 09:29 | |
| === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok | ||
| agateau | Riddell: ping | 10:04 |
| agateau | Riddell: good news, Konqueror patch to move the throbber to the toolbar got upstreamed | 10:04 |
| Sput | agateau: trying to make the dbusmenu stuff work on a distro that isn't kubuntu... is there any daemon or whatever required to make it work with the plasma tray? | 10:11 |
| Sput | as plasma seems to ignore it completely | 10:11 |
| agateau | Sput: no daemon needed | 10:11 |
| agateau | Sput: were kdelibs and kdebase built with dbusmenu-qt support? | 10:11 |
| agateau | Sput: it has been made optional recently | 10:11 |
| Sput | well, at least cmake tells me it finds the lib | 10:12 |
| Sput | no idea how to test if plasma actually uses it | 10:12 |
| agateau | Sput: in kdelibs and kdebase? | 10:12 |
| Sput | yeah | 10:12 |
| Sput | well, it's found and linked against | 10:12 |
| Sput | but is there any way to test if it's actually in use? | 10:13 |
| Riddell | agateau: yay, well one | 10:13 |
| Sput | the KSNIs all export MenuBar/org.ayatana.dbusmenu, but clicking on the Get* methods in qdbusviewer gets me an error | 10:13 |
| Riddell | agateau: yay, well done | 10:13 |
| agateau | Sput: can you pastebin the error? | 10:13 |
| Sput | Unable to find method GetChildren on path /MenuBar in interface org.ayatana.dbusmenu | 10:15 |
| agateau | wow | 10:15 |
| Sput | same for the other Get* methods | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | oh | 10:16 |
| apachelogger | Sput: in gnome I now get a quassel tray | 10:16 |
| apachelogger | apparently the gnome indicator applet blocked it | 10:16 |
| apachelogger | and I get a menu | 10:16 |
| apachelogger | and it looks gnomz | 10:16 |
| apachelogger | gnomy | 10:16 |
| Sput | actually GetProperty and GetLayout work though | 10:16 |
| agateau | that's really weird | 10:16 |
| Sput | but GetChildren and GetGroupProperties and GetChildren are b0rked | 10:17 |
| agateau | GetGroupProperties was broken but got fixed recently | 10:17 |
| Sput | apachelogger: so it seems that I did it right? | 10:17 |
| Sput | ah, Event is broken too | 10:17 |
| agateau | Sput: how do you call GetChildren()? | 10:17 |
| apachelogger | http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/Bildschirmfoto1.png | 10:17 |
| Sput | agateau: I'm just clicking on the names in qdbusviewer | 10:18 |
| agateau | Sput: I mean which arguments do you pass? | 10:18 |
| Sput | agateau: I can't pass any args because qdbusviewer can't find the method... | 10:19 |
| agateau | Sput: can you try with d-feet? | 10:19 |
| agateau | (it's a gtk equivalent of qdbusviewer) | 10:19 |
| Sput | and plasma at least seems to ignore the dbusmenu as it still requests the popup menu here | 10:19 |
| Sput | can do | 10:19 |
| Sput | agateau: ah, there I can enter params, which should I use? | 10:21 |
| agateau | for GetChildren: 0, "" | 10:21 |
| agateau | Should give you all properties of all first level items | 10:22 |
| Sput | ok, that seems to work | 10:22 |
| Sput | so it's just plasma not using it, I guess | 10:22 |
| agateau | yes | 10:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: btw, I think we can port software-properties to policykit for 11.04 ... I just got dbus policy foo working in python | 10:22 |
| Sput | apachelogger: ok, that looks pretty much that I did it correctly and it's working on Ubuntu at least | 10:23 |
| Sput | including the missing icons :D | 10:23 |
| apachelogger | missing icons? | 10:23 |
| Sput | yeah, the menu entries don't have icons | 10:23 |
| apachelogger | ah | 10:23 |
| apachelogger | well | 10:23 |
| apachelogger | gnome | 10:23 |
| apachelogger | ... | 10:23 |
| apachelogger | :P | 10:23 |
| Sput | fixing that would require me rewriting my iconloader | 10:23 |
| Sput | nah, that's an issue in quassel, but I'm not sure if I care enough to fix it | 10:23 |
| agateau | Sput: so you wrote your own Qt-only KSNI implementation? | 10:24 |
| Sput | agateau: yes | 10:24 |
| agateau | Sput: interesting... | 10:24 |
| Sput | well, only implementing the features I need for Quassel | 10:24 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ooh good | 10:24 |
| Sput | and pretty much based on KDE's implementation | 10:24 |
| Sput | (ripping out what I don't need, Qtifying the rest) | 10:25 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: although doesn't language-selector-gtk alreay use it? | 10:25 |
| agateau | Sput: there have been some discussions about getting KSNI integrated into Qt itself | 10:25 |
| agateau | Sput: may be we can reuse your work there | 10:25 |
| Sput | agateau: yes, I would pay the guy doing that a beer | 10:25 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: policykit? | 10:25 |
| * agateau does not drink alcohol :) | 10:25 | |
| Sput | agateau: I'd be very very very glad to be able to throw away my custom implementations of the tray icon and statusnotifier and use QSystemTrayIcon or whatever again | 10:25 |
| Sput | it's a messy, buggy thing :) | 10:25 |
| agateau | heh | 10:25 |
| Sput | since it also includes falling back to the standard tray icon | 10:26 |
| Sput | and also supports statusnotifier even if Qt has been built without tray icon support | 10:26 |
| Sput | (which could be useful on phones) | 10:26 |
| agateau | Sput: yes, I don't like much the way KSNI is implemented, especially the associatedWidget thing | 10:26 |
| maco | Sput: why does quassel not remember that ive unchecked the main toolbar in the view menu? | 10:26 |
| agateau | indeed | 10:26 |
| Sput | agateau: yeah, that's a feature I don't use... since we always have a menu | 10:26 |
| Sput | so I could simplify some things | 10:27 |
| agateau | Sput: actually the associatedWidget thing is for when you don't have a window | 10:27 |
| Sput | agateau: I'd also buy you a nice bottle of local wine for making QSystemTrayIcon dbussy :) | 10:27 |
| Sput | or coke! | 10:27 |
| agateau | :) | 10:27 |
| Sput | it's one of those things that are really really missing... now that Qt has icon theme support | 10:28 |
| Sput | btw, how do I get Ubuntu in a virtualbox with display resizing support? I guess I'd need to install the vbox guest additions, but can't seem to find a package | 10:30 |
| amichair | Sput: virtualbox-ose-guest-utils | 10:30 |
| maco | Sput: virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms and virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 | 10:30 |
| maco | amichair: that one says "non-X11 guest utils" in the description | 10:30 |
| Sput | ah... the Ubuntu Software Center confuses me :) | 10:31 |
| Sput | thx | 10:31 |
| amichair | that's the one I always used, and it always worked (full integration)... | 10:31 |
| debfx | maco: it recommends -x11 | 10:31 |
| * maco uses apt | 10:31 | |
| maco | debfx: ahh ok | 10:31 |
| Sput | yeah, the -dkms seems to be a transitional package | 10:31 |
| maco | Sput: doesnt say that anywhere.... | 10:32 |
| Sput | my ubuntu software center tells me that :) | 10:32 |
| maco | interesting | 10:32 |
| maco | its not in the package description | 10:32 |
| maco | Description: x86 virtualization solution - guest addition module source for dkms | 10:32 |
| Sput | ah, seems like "Transitional package for virtual-ose-guest-dkms" is something else again | 10:33 |
| amichair | -dkms says it depends on -utils | 10:33 |
| Sput | hmmm, it installed -dkms too | 10:34 |
| Sput | ah well, we'll see if it works | 10:34 |
| Sput | looks like it. | 10:34 |
| amichair | Sput: which? | 10:34 |
| Sput | I installed the x11 thingy | 10:34 |
| Sput | and that prolly pulled in the other one | 10:34 |
| amichair | Sput: well as long as it works :-) | 10:35 |
| Sput | yep | 10:35 |
| Sput | well, now figure out which packages I need to be able to build quassel... | 10:36 |
| amichair | ah, the -utils also provide shared folders etc. Or so the description says. | 10:36 |
| maco | apt-get build-dep quassel | 10:36 |
| Sput | ah cool | 10:36 |
| Sput | I seem to remember something like build-essentials but couldn't find it :) | 10:37 |
| Sput | agateau: any idea why the plasma tray seems to ignore dbusmenu, or how to enable/check for it? | 10:38 |
| agateau | Sput: is it using old school tray protocol or KSNI? | 10:39 |
| Sput | agateau: it uses ksni | 10:39 |
| agateau | Sput: if you get nice tooltips it's KSNI | 10:39 |
| agateau | mmm | 10:40 |
| Sput | well, without the K :) | 10:40 |
| agateau | heh | 10:40 |
| Sput | I'm not sure if other apps use dbusmenu either | 10:40 |
| Sput | I have no idea how to check that | 10:40 |
| agateau | if an app is using ksni, it is also using dbusmenu | 10:41 |
| agateau | unless it sets some obscure env var | 10:41 |
| agateau | or unless plasma is not built with dbusmenu | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | does someone know a bit about polkit? | 10:41 |
| Sput | agateau: yes, and I'm suspecting that it doesn't work as intended here, as at least it doesn't work for quassel (which *does* have a dbusmenu in gnome, it seems, so my implementation should be correct) | 10:42 |
| Sput | and I can't check other apps | 10:42 |
| agateau | Sput: why can't you check other apps? | 10:42 |
| * apachelogger just wanted to ask the same thing ^^ | 10:42 | |
| Sput | agateau: because I have no idea how... | 10:42 |
| Sput | I mean, how do I see the difference | 10:42 |
| agateau | Sput: you can try dbus-monitor | 10:43 |
| agateau | it's a command line tool | 10:43 |
| agateau | the dbus equivalent of wireshark | 10:43 |
| agateau | dbus-monitor interface=org.ayatana.dbusmenu | 10:43 |
| apachelogger | Sput: how do you know quassel's dbusmenu does not get used? | 10:43 |
| Sput | apachelogger: because it has icons :) | 10:44 |
| Sput | also, because ContextMenu is being called | 10:44 |
| apachelogger | Sput: in plasma dbusmneu has icons | 10:44 |
| Sput | apachelogger: not with my implementation. | 10:44 |
| apachelogger | oh | 10:44 |
| apachelogger | ic | 10:44 |
| Sput | that part isn't implemented yet | 10:44 |
| Sput | hmmm, how's the dbusmenu-qt package called in ubuntu? | 10:45 |
| agateau | Sput: libdbusmenu-qt2 | 10:45 |
| Sput | thx | 10:45 |
| Sput | I should relearn apt :) | 10:45 |
| agateau | and libdbusmenu-qt-dev | 10:45 |
| apachelogger | Sput: apt-cache search foo bar :P | 10:46 |
| * apachelogger is wondering how to make polkit not query the password for every action | 10:47 | |
| Sput | apachelogger: what did you have to do to make the tray icon work in gnome? | 10:57 |
| Sput | gnome confuses me even more than the software center :( | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | Sput: remove the indicator applet | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | the mail-like icon in the systray area | 10:58 |
| Sput | ah, yeah, that worked | 10:58 |
| Sput | ok, dbusmenu works too for quassel | 10:59 |
| Sput | so I declare my implementation working and bugfree! | 10:59 |
| Sput | ... now fix plasma :) | 10:59 |
| Sput | btw, adding support for it was really easy, agateau...only had to instantiate this DBusMenuExporter thingy and add a method to the SNI sbud interface | 11:00 |
| Sput | so I guess that tells that libdbusmenu-qt is nicely designed | 11:00 |
| agateau | Sput: thanks :) | 11:00 |
| Sput | and sbud should have been dbus | 11:01 |
| Sput | great. shutting down the vbox made my nvidia go all wonky | 11:04 |
| Sput | now I have nice visual distortions all over the screen | 11:04 |
| Sput | proprietary drivers -- | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | eh | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | ehhhh | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: why did rekonq loose my settings?!?!?!? | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | man | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | this thing is so full of crap... | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | http://imgur.com/ZZ1An | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | toolbar had text alongside icons | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | and what is with those bookmarks there | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | is it a toolbar or bookmarks bar? | 11:15 |
| Riddell | I would imagine it's the Main Toolbar followed by the Bookmarks Toolbar | 11:26 |
| Riddell | right click and unlock to check | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | aha! | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: thx | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | leaves the question why it is in one row by default | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | and why upstream overwrites user settings on upgrade | 11:27 |
| Riddell | the transition from hardcoded toolbars to XML GUI ones hasn't gone smoothly for rekonq | 11:28 |
| Riddell | there are worse problems I'm sure | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | oh | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | as long as it stays | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: IMHO the applications-other icon is a bit over/miss used | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | it is used by KDE for lost'n'found, by kpk and by software-properties | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | probably even more | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | :/ | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | doesnt ubiquity use an adapted version? | 11:31 |
| Riddell | it's a version with a kubuntu logo on it | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I really think we should poke someone to get more diversity | 11:36 |
| Riddell | unfortunately kwwii has just disappeared | 11:41 |
| emonkey | anyone an idea why there is a little windows with an X (the x from xserver) as icon and if I close it, the whole desktop disappears? (only the windows stay and are usable as normal, krunner worsk normally, etc.) | 12:01 |
| Riddell | could be flash | 12:05 |
| JontheEchidna | emonkey, Riddell: bug 614699 is what that is | 12:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 614699 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Qt 4.7.0 breaks QX11EmbedWidget" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614699 | 12:52 |
| Riddell | oh yes you pointed that one out a wee while ago | 12:53 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: please target any bugs you think need it to beta or 10.10 and tag with kubuntu | 12:54 |
| * Riddell does so for that bug | 12:54 | |
| emonkey | I'll check that mom | 12:54 |
| emonkey | looks like that ... I don't want to use another ppa, so I'll wait until it's fixed in the normal backports ppa. | 12:56 |
| emonkey | Just poke me if I can test something. | 12:56 |
| emonkey | the only annoying thing is that notifications are displayed again and again and again ... | 13:00 |
| * apachelogger clearly got too much coffee again :S | 13:02 | |
| apachelogger | @.@ | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: do you know of a way to not make polkit request auth for each and every action? | 13:03 |
| * apachelogger finds it a bit silly to ask a billion times for authentication when applying the changes ^^ | 13:03 | |
| jussi | apachelogger: I have that when connecting to samba or sftp via dolphin. very annoying. | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | that is another story | 13:04 |
| jussi | well could we fix that too? :D | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | jussi: with sftp one uses a key anyway :P | 13:05 |
| jussi | apachelogger: sometimes | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | _always_ | 13:05 |
| jussi | no, sometimes. | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | there is no reason why one would not want to use a keay | 13:05 |
| jussi | grrr, there is reason. and the function exists, so should we not fix it? | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | what is the reason :P | 13:06 |
| * apachelogger thinks that kde should very much fix it, since they broke it | 13:06 | |
| jussi | heh | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | softwareproperties makes my nose itch -.- | 13:10 |
| apachelogger | hm | 13:11 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: is there are particular reason it was not derived from a *Dialog class? | 13:11 |
| Riddell | well it's an application not a dialogue | 13:11 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, if it were not alienating itself by doing on-the-fly-apply it would exhibit need for all standard dialog buttons | 13:13 |
| Riddell | oh that's because it's a port of the gtk one so I copied the whole UI including on-the-fly-apply | 13:14 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 13:14 |
| Riddell | ah hah, JontheEchidna broke kdebase-workspace with his utempter larks in kdelibs | 13:15 |
| * apachelogger notes that the backend does not support other paradigms anyway | 13:15 | |
| apachelogger | toogle functions are evil | 13:15 |
| apachelogger | hm | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | something is fishy with my dbus service :( | 13:20 |
| * jussi sticks another fish down apachelogger's dbus... heheh :D | 13:31 | |
| * apachelogger pets dbus | 13:31 | |
| apachelogger | hm | 13:31 |
| apachelogger | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm | 13:31 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: I guess you'd only use one auth policy for applying changes, and if that passes then apply all changes via the helper | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: that however is a bit awkward if the sysadmin wants to define more fine grided permissions? :/ | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | either the user gets annoyed or the sysadmin :/ | 13:41 |
| JontheEchidna | I am wondering which options would need to be fine-grained from and s-p-k perspective | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 13:44 |
| JontheEchidna | my point exactly. :) | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | popcon :P | 13:45 |
| JontheEchidna | one auth for changing popcon, one auth for other things | 13:45 |
| apachelogger | ack | 13:45 |
| * apachelogger hugs JontheEchidna | 13:45 | |
| JontheEchidna | :) | 13:45 |
| JontheEchidna | you could even set the popcon one to not need auth by default | 13:46 |
| JontheEchidna | if security is ok with that I guess | 13:46 |
| JontheEchidna | would be nice if popcon was per-user | 13:46 |
| JontheEchidna | for e.g. usage | 13:46 |
| JontheEchidna | even if installation stats are per-system | 13:46 |
| * apachelogger agrees | 13:52 | |
| apachelogger | :O | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | software-properties does seriously funky stuff | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/482894/ | 13:52 |
| JontheEchidna | O.o | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: out of the top of your head, would you have a guess what that is necessary for? | 13:53 |
| Riddell | deleteing widgets? | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | well, yes, but that is part of init | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: known problem, its on my todo :P | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | OH! | 13:57 |
| * apachelogger fears it is one of those ever growing todos :P | 13:57 | |
| shadeslayer | true :P | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: do you have write access to kde FTP servers>? | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | no, yes, why? | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=242675 << please test that if you do :) | 13:58 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 242675 in general "Rekonq refuses to save files remotely" [Wishlist,New] | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | wait.. that can be any ftp server :/ | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | right :P | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | You can only select local files | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | that save dialog is resticted to the local file flag | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | obviously | 14:00 |
| shadeslayer | i went over the report too quickly :P | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | hmm | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | no kdebug in pykde :( | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | why but why | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | WOAH | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | hahahaha | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | rofl | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | sweet | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | rekonq is so terrible I might have to call it by its real name and get cencored | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | so | 14:06 |
| jjesse | i tried using reqonk on my netbook as my main browser and i hate it | 14:06 |
| jjesse | would rather use konqueror | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | say you are at http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.3-api/kdecore/KAboutData.html | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | and want to get to KDebug | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer | jjesse: why? | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | you select the KAboutData and start typing | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | like real quick | 14:07 |
| jjesse | refresh takes forever | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | hit enter enter right away | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | and kabooom | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.3-api/kdecore/KDe.html | 14:07 |
| jjesse | some pages don't load correctly for me (facebook (all the time), google reader gives me issues, some of my work pages) | 14:07 |
| jjesse | it seems very slow compared to firefox and chrome | 14:07 |
| jjesse | sometimes on my netbook the page flickers as it tries to load | 14:08 |
| shadeslayer | jjesse: rekonq version? | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ^^^^^^ do something about those lost characters | 14:08 |
| jjesse | shadeslayer whatever is in current up to date maverick | 14:08 |
| jjesse | just haven't had time to post to mailing list yet | 14:08 |
| * shadeslayer checks if 0.5.80 built | 14:09 | |
| jjesse | everything was up to date as of 8pm EST | 14:09 |
| jjesse | on my netbook | 14:09 |
| jjesse | i dont know if having only 1 gb of RAM affects it or not | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | hehe LO | 14:10 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 14:10 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i still dont understand your bug :( | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | i opened the KAboutData api page > searched for KAboutData and it works fine | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | not searched | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | read again | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | manually change the url | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | or quickly search for superfloss | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | google will come up with superflo | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | rekonq constantly looses the last 1 or 2 characters of quickly entered input | 14:12 |
| shadeslayer | oic | 14:13 |
| shadeslayer | lemme check | 14:13 |
| Riddell | that might only be the case with !English | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | oh...in that case i cant say, i use english and it works for me ( typed my password in urlbar as its the fastest thing i can type :P ) | 14:16 |
| shadeslayer | jjesse: what does apt-cache policy rekonq say ? | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: asdf<enter> | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | most of the time I can reproudce it with that | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | maybe I am just too quick a typer :S | 14:19 |
| shadeslayer | works for me :( | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | doesnt here | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 14:28 |
| * apachelogger just deleted his dbus stuff -.- | 14:28 | |
| * Riddell removes k3bsetup from system settings, silly place to put it | 14:36 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: works for other people in #rekonq as well | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | that does not change the fact that it is not working for me, does it? | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: can you sync kmymoney? bug 622984 | 14:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622984 in kmymoney (Ubuntu) "FFe: Sync kmymoney 4.5-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622984 | 14:39 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: voila | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | thanks :D | 14:50 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: thanks Mr. archive man | 14:55 |
| * Riddell doesn't use a title | 14:55 | |
| Riddell | just plain Archive Man will do :) | 14:55 |
| JontheEchidna | :) | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :) | 14:57 |
| agateau | It's a Bird... It's a Plane... It's Archive Man! | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | would QX11Embed also be responsible for the nasty flash bug with rekonq, where a nasty X11 window comes up when playing flash vids? | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | ^ seems i used nasty twice :P | 15:03 |
| Riddell | yes most likely | 15:04 |
| JontheEchidna | ^yes, most likely | 15:04 |
| JontheEchidna | ha | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | good :D | 15:04 |
| * apachelogger has itchy nose again | 15:04 | |
| apachelogger | bleh | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | enough pyth0rn for today | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | ohhhh | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: kubuntu-bugs subscribed to rekonq | 15:27 |
| CIA-71 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1167407 * trunk/kdereview/libqapt/src/worker/org.kubuntu.qaptworker.policy Allow all active users to check for updates, as aptdaemon now does | 15:27 |
| JontheEchidna | it wasn't? :s | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | no | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: and qtwebkit-source too | 15:28 |
| * apachelogger pokes shadeslayer with https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rekonq | 15:29 | |
| * shadeslayer looks | 15:30 | |
| JontheEchidna | ^now there's no reason muon can't handle refreshing repos after using s-p-kde | 15:30 |
| JontheEchidna | I was letting s-p-kde do that through qapt-batch since s-p-kde was already running as root and letting muon do it would just throw another auth dialog at you after you had already had to do one to launch s-p-kde | 15:30 |
| JontheEchidna | smart polkit policies++ | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you mean if started from within muon would carry out the refresh? | 15:32 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm, let me go through the steps | 15:33 |
| JontheEchidna | as you know, s-p-kde has a --dont-update flag so that package managers can do the updating themselves | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | aye | 15:33 |
| JontheEchidna | but | 15:33 |
| JontheEchidna | to launch s-p-kde you have to give the password | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: one is fix released and one is incomplete/fix released ( marked as incomplete for now ) | 15:33 |
| JontheEchidna | since you didn't launch muon as root | 15:34 |
| JontheEchidna | using this flag would mean that muon would have to ask you for your password | 15:34 |
| JontheEchidna | but since s-p-kde is already running as root, it can launch qapt-batch in its own refresh routine without qapt-batch asking for permissions | 15:34 |
| JontheEchidna | therefore the smart thing to do before I changed it so that any active user can refresh packages was to let s-p-kde do the refreshing by launching a root'd qapt-batch | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | why does qapt-batch ask for permission if it is executed as root? | 15:35 |
| JontheEchidna | it doesn't | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | oh | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | without ^^ | 15:35 |
| JontheEchidna | that is why I wasn't letting muon handle things | 15:35 |
| JontheEchidna | right | 15:35 |
| JontheEchidna | but now that any non-remote user can update the cache, a double password annoyfest is no longer a concern | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | ah | 15:37 |
| * apachelogger gets it | 15:37 | |
| * apachelogger finds that nifty | 15:37 | |
| apachelogger | The following errors were encountered: | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | Object: , name: u'https' | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | launchpad <3 | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that letter loosing annoys me towards blood rage mood | 16:08 |
| Riddell | NCommander: did you say you had a fix for python-qt issue but then kdebindings got stuck on smoke? | 16:09 |
| Riddell | or did I just make that up? | 16:09 |
| NCommander | Riddell: I had a fix or pykde4, but smoke is stil broke | 16:09 |
| NCommander | Riddell: I've linked dyfet to it, I think I pinged you with a link | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | timeout \o/ | 16:10 |
| Riddell | NCommander: so we could just disable smoke on arm? | 16:10 |
| Riddell | we've done that before | 16:10 |
| NCommander | Riddell: sure, but I have no time to test it | 16:10 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do we still need skim? | 16:11 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: dunno, ask a chinese person | 16:11 |
| apachelogger | chinese persons: do we still need skim? | 16:12 |
| Riddell | freeflyi1g: ^^ | 16:12 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I think skim only works with KDE 3 anyway | 16:12 |
| apachelogger | The following errors were encountered: | 16:12 |
| apachelogger | Object: , name: u'https' | 16:12 |
| apachelogger | well then | 16:12 |
| Riddell | how do I find the URL for an advanced search on launchpad bugs (so i can save it)? | 16:16 |
| Riddell | oh wait, it suddently worked | 16:16 |
| maco | apachelogger: ibus replaces skim | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: :( | 16:16 |
| * maco isn't chinese but does frequently type in japanese | 16:16 | |
| maco | (or at least more frequently than you do :P) | 16:17 |
| * apachelogger is either more grumpy than usual or everthing is going to shoot | 16:17 | |
| maco | Riddell: um it shows up in your address bar and you copy and paste? | 16:17 |
| maco | i think you can subscribe to advanced searches too to get emails when something new matches it | 16:17 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 16:17 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu, making your PC friendly | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 | ||
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I think that the lost-letter-bug is coming from the incredible laggingness rekonq's addressbar exhibits here | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | it is like typing on chewing gum | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | ew | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i hope you have 0.5.80 | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | yes I do | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | and yet it is crap | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | go figure | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: join #rekonq > catch adjam when he comes in > tell him :P | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | grrrrrrrr | 16:19 |
| shadeslayer | because i cant figure it out :( | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | maco: skim is a KDE config UI for scim I understand | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | and scim is still around | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | so I wonder if skim is still usefu | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | l | 16:21 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: btw did you try resetting the config files for rekonq? namely .kde/share/apps/rekonq and .kde/share/config/rekonqrc ? | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | we really do need a script to port those over :( | 16:23 |
| * apachelogger blinks | 16:24 | |
| * apachelogger gets his stress ball and sits down on the chair next to Nightrose to watch her work | 16:24 | |
| * Nightrose looks at apachelogger and feels watched | 16:25 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: :* | 16:26 |
| Nightrose | :* | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: what do you make of bug 575497 | 16:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 575497 in kdeedu (Ubuntu) "package libmarble4 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu1.1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575497 | 16:27 |
| * shadeslayer is sad because he does not have kubuntu splash anymore | 16:27 | |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: I don't really see a reason for a sudden failure, but I do know that straight 9.04 -> 10.04 is not supported | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | not officially but scott wanted as good support as possible ;) | 16:31 |
| === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq | ||
| * Riddell uploads a new plasma-widget-networkmanagement snapshot | 16:39 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: :O .... qtcreator does not have ctrl+G shortcut? | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | what? | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | in qtcreator i cannot go to a specific line ... i need the ctrl+g shortcut to do that | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | qthelp://com.nokia.qtcreator.200/doc/creator-keyboard-shortcuts.html | 16:42 |
| emonkey | Sorry for asking, hope I don't annoy ... bug 614699 is fixed in 10.10, will it be fixed in the backport ppa too? | 16:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 614699 in Kubuntu PPA "Qt 4.7.0 breaks QX11EmbedWidget" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614699 | 16:43 |
| maco | apachelogger: oh i thought skim was a full separate scim-for-kde not just a config ui. but if ibus is shipped by default, not scim, no need for skim by default | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | well, I was wondering about booting it from the archives ;) | 16:46 |
| Riddell | skim is also a UI for scim's backend | 16:46 |
| Riddell | it's in universe | 16:46 |
| Riddell | emonkey: if someone fixes it, debdiffs welcome | 16:47 |
| maco | apachelogger: oooh | 16:47 |
| maco | Riddell: new nm plasmoid? but the old one worked! | 16:48 |
| * maco can look forward to broken network when getting home -_- | 16:48 | |
| Riddell | maco: well this one works better (I hope) | 16:48 |
| maco | thats not how network manager works! | 16:49 |
| maco | see they get it working for one release, then they break it for the next two... | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | ^ true | 16:49 |
| apachelogger | d'oh! | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | setting 613636 to confirmed | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | bug 613636 | 16:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 613636 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Maveric ISOs show purple "Ubuntu 10.10" boot splash instead of the blue Kubuntu one." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613636 | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu one? | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | :P | 16:56 |
| CIA-71 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1167435 * trunk/kdereview/libqapt/src/worker/ (org.kubuntu.qaptworker.policy worker.cpp) Dirty hack to make sure all the DBus shiz is ready when we send signals back to the bus. :( Also, final newlines++ | 16:56 |
| * apachelogger has a highlight on that :P | 16:56 | |
| apachelogger | bug 533432 | 16:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 533432 in kdegraphics (Ubuntu) "kolourpaint4 breaks GNOME" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533432 | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | kolourpaint4 is clearly a killer app ^^ | 16:58 |
| rbelem | :-D | 16:58 |
| JontheEchidna | Seen that one before. I really have no idea how that could affect anything | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | oh | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: I wanted to poke you with a long-pointy-stick-of-read-my-complaints :P | 16:59 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yo, should we be uploading ubuntuone-kde packages? | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | I stopped my review right after seeing the version number (i.e. I did not start :P) | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: right I also wanted to talk with upstream about that | 17:00 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, lol | 17:00 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: cos we should get it in before beta freeze preferably | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | true true | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | ctrl+c is broken :( | 17:01 |
| * apachelogger is wondering how that happened | 17:01 | |
| rbelem | hey Riddell, i need some help with the kdeglobals | 17:03 |
| Riddell | rbelem: hi | 17:03 |
| rbelem | Riddell, :-) | 17:03 |
| rbelem | Riddell, related to the fonts | 17:03 |
| rbelem | Riddell, which one do you think is the best to use? | 17:04 |
| * apachelogger is wondering what is different about the fonts | 17:04 | |
| apachelogger | size? | 17:04 |
| rbelem | and size too :-) | 17:04 |
| Riddell | rbelem: hmm I was going to say copy it from kubuntu-netbook but I see you did that and the error is there too | 17:05 |
| Riddell | rbelem: s/DejaVu Sans/Sans/ | 17:05 |
| * apachelogger tunes in "a long december" and asks Nightrose if she would like to dance | 17:05 | |
| Riddell | s/DejaVu Sans Mono/Monospace/ | 17:06 |
| rbelem | yep | 17:06 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: i always do! | 17:06 |
| dantti_work | What do you guys this it's best Cancel or Unmark? http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopzy2659 http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopvx2659 | 17:06 |
| rbelem | Riddell, cool! | 17:06 |
| * rbelem runs | 17:06 | |
| * apachelogger dances with Nightrose | 17:06 | |
| Nightrose | \o/ | 17:07 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: hmm, I think either is fine, probably a preference for Unmark although I'm not sure why | 17:07 |
| dantti_work | hmm, I think I'll stick with unmark I think cancel seems like it's already installing and clicking cancel will cancel the instalation | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: btw every UDS, how many people are from the Kubuntu team? :p | 17:10 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: around 5 | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | you+4 ? :D | 17:11 |
| Riddell | 5 sponsored (roughly) | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | ohk | 17:11 |
| rbelem | Riddell, is that ok? http://paste.ubuntu.com/482967/ | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you happen to know if we are having a day trip to disney world? | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: why monospace? | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger++ | 17:13 |
| rbelem | Riddell, ^ :-D | 17:13 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: not that I know of although I'm not flying back until the monday after so it's a possibility | 17:13 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: for the fixed with font monospace fonts are popular | 17:14 |
| Riddell | rbelem: ooh no, not all monospace | 17:14 |
| Riddell | fixed=Monospace | 17:14 |
| Riddell | all the rest =Sans | 17:14 |
| rbelem | ah ok :-D | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | what happened to ubuntu fonts? | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | are going to use those? | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | that is what I thought | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, we surely must go to disney world ;) | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | sabdfl: can we please have a day trip to disney? ^^ | 17:15 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: according to seele it's hurricane season so we'll be lucky to be alive at all by the end of it | 17:15 |
| * shadeslayer rolls off the bed laughing | 17:16 | |
| rbelem | Riddell, what about now? http://paste.ubuntu.com/482969/ | 17:16 |
| rbelem | :-) | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: bummer, I better take my parsol with me then | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: stop scaring sabdfl away :P | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | apachelogger poppins | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | flying around over disney world | 17:17 |
| Riddell | rbelem: lovely | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | that sure will get me locked away for indecency | 17:17 |
| rbelem | Riddell, cool :-D | 17:17 |
| rbelem | thanks apachelogger Riddell | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: did you fix the version yet? :P | 17:18 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: on top of Dr. Konqi? | 17:18 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, should i use 0ubuntu1? | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | no | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: 10.10ubuntu1 | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | lulz ^ | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: that way you can use dch -i to increment | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | DrKonqi: yo | 17:19 |
| DrKonqi | goodevening, apachelogger :) | 17:19 |
| rbelem | cool! :-) | 17:19 |
| * apachelogger takes DrKonqi and flies like marry poppins | 17:19 | |
| * shadeslayer puts a gps locator on DrKonqi | 17:20 | |
| shadeslayer | now we can retrieve our DrKonqi when he gets lost | 17:20 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, and the tarball? name it kubuntu-mobile-default-settings_10.10.0.tar.gz or with orig.tar.gz? | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: .orig | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | no no no | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | why not? | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | with 10.10ubuntu1 the tarball will be created at dpkg-buildpackage | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | oic | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | that is one of the implications of a native package | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | doh | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | you do not have a orig.tar.gz because it is the orig already | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | i didnt know :P | 17:21 |
| rbelem | sweet! :-) | 17:21 |
| rbelem | just need to rm kubuntu-mobile-default-settings_10.10.0.tar.gz | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | DrKonqi: order-adm list | 17:23 |
| DrKonqi | apachelogger: Nothing available. | 17:23 |
| shadeslayer | 0_o | 17:24 |
| apachelogger | DrKonqi: order-adm add coffee no 5 1 | 17:24 |
| DrKonqi | apachelogger, you don't have 'bar::edit::order-adm' permissions here | 17:24 |
| apachelogger | woosh | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 17:24 |
| apachelogger | DrKonqi: order-adm add coffee no 5 1 | 17:24 |
| DrKonqi | apachelogger: Please first create the machine which should be linked to (same syntax, just replace the machine name with 'yes'), or use '-' to inidcate that there is no machine. | 17:24 |
| apachelogger | oh | 17:24 |
| * apachelogger wonders if he has to call it machine | 17:24 | |
| apachelogger | DrKonqi: order-adm add coffee yes 10 1 | 17:25 |
| DrKonqi | apachelogger: coffee_machine added | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | yay | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | DrKonqi: order-adm add coffee coffee 10 1 | 17:26 |
| DrKonqi | apachelogger: coffee added | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | DrKonqi: order coffee for everyone | 17:26 |
| * DrKonqi is going to his secret storehouse to get coffee for everyone - might take some time. | 17:26 | |
| * DrKonqi is back and slides coffee down the bar to everyone | 17:26 | |
| apachelogger | DrKonqi: order coffee | 17:26 |
| DrKonqi | apachelogger: We are out of coffee, you should reorder some of it. | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | :D :D :D :D | 17:26 |
| * apachelogger notes that the stable version of rbotbar is actually rather sophisticated | 17:26 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ubuntu font seems to be late (to answer your earlier question) | 17:26 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | DrKonqi: reorder coffee | 17:26 |
| DrKonqi | apachelogger: Billy Kay is on his way to the store.... | 17:26 |
| Riddell | gosh, a new bot | 17:26 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: you mean theyre late in releasing the fonts or late in the release cycle? | 17:28 |
| Riddell | both | 17:29 |
| rbelem | Riddell, apachelogger, just uploaded | 17:29 |
| rbelem | to revu | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | ah | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | that explains why my mobile was shouting at me | 17:29 |
| rbelem | :-) | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: revu redirects to your mobile? :P | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | dantti_work: defenitely not unmark | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | dantti_work: that sounds very techy in that context | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | not sure about cancel either though | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: if a bug reported assigned to me changes basically the whole house goes *bEEEEEEEp* | 17:31 |
| shadeslayer | nice :P | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | actually more annoying... more like *pingbEEEEEEpkabooomcrashDohzmog* | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | which is the reason I do not like when bugs with a lot of traffic are assigned to me :P | 17:32 |
| shadeslayer | which phone? | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | the aPhone? :P | 17:33 |
| rbelem | hiPhone | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: it calls itself phone | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | no seriously, it is called phone on bluetooth :P | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | haha :P | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | once upon a time my pc was called box :P | 17:36 |
| shadeslayer | what does the company call it? | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | that made my bash me@box:~ | 17:36 |
| shadeslayer | the one that manf. it? | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | that was sicky | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I dunno, it has multiple names I hear | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | htc magic seems to be the most common one | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | with stupid android -.- | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | android is stupid? | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | almost as much as rekonq | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | thats.... | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | im not going to say | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | bazinga | 17:42 |
| * apachelogger imagines rekonq written in java | 17:43 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: omg, please hold me | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | wah | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | wuh | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | woh | 17:43 |
| * apachelogger falls over | 17:43 | |
| * Nightrose holds apachelogger | 17:43 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: why cant i reproduce any of your issues :( | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | also | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: run rekonq with gdb and watch it do amazing stuff | 17:47 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, Riddell, I created the group kubuntu-mobile at launchpad https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-mobile | 17:51 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: for bzr branches? | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | if so, please make kubuntu-dev a member | 17:52 |
| rbelem | yep :-) | 17:52 |
| rbelem | cool | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | (and kubuntu-ninja if you wish) | 17:52 |
| maco | apachelogger: so i had ubuntu-sso-gnomekeyring or whatever it is not installed on that one system, but gnome-keyring was still installed. removing that made that one sync to U1. yay! the other system which never had gnome keyring on it still doesn't pull from U1 though. boo. | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: look at http://gitorious.org/rekonq/mainline/merge_requests/187 and http://gitorious.org/rekonq/mainline/merge_requests/188 | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | they were supposed to fix some stuff, but when you run rekonq from krunner it doesnt show about:home , if you run it with gdb it works | 17:54 |
| apachelogger | oh :O | 17:54 |
| apachelogger | maco: that is very odd | 17:54 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, done! :-) | 17:54 |
| * apachelogger is wondering what would make gnome-keyring block syncing | 17:54 | |
| maco | apachelogger: computers arent meant to make sense, right? | 17:54 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 17:55 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 17:55 |
| apachelogger | maco: probably your harddrive is failing and there is a byte that is not set where it should be set :P | 17:55 |
| maco | :P | 17:56 |
| * rbelem is leaving for a while | 17:56 | |
| * shadeslayer swaps maco's HD with a magnetic core | 17:56 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: even with cleaned out sources the addressbar still lags like crap | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | cleaned out sources? 0_O | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | dude | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | there is something very wrong with qt | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | look at the merges i showed you | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | oh man | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | this is not good | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | http://imgur.com/k4WQ5 << shows 0.5.55 0_o | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | hmmm | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | eh | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | cleaned out conigs | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | anywhow | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: http://gitorious.org/rekonq/mainline/merge_requests/188 <-- you people realize that a QUrl string comparision is more expensive than QString, right? | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | no :P | 18:02 |
| apachelogger | well then | 18:03 |
| apachelogger | a QUrl comparision will at the very least need to normalize the URL | 18:03 |
| apachelogger | and in that case there first construct a QUrl | 18:03 |
| apachelogger | erm | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | QString | 18:04 |
| apachelogger | KUrl (and QUrl) | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 18:04 |
| apachelogger | for reference ... that is the normalizer of qurl: http://qt.gitorious.com/qt/qt/blobs/4.7/src/corelib/io/qurl.cpp#line3970 | 18:04 |
| apachelogger | so | 18:04 |
| apachelogger | if I am not mistaken | 18:04 |
| apachelogger | then what each call there does | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | ... | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | implicitly make the char* a QString | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | make that QString in a QUrl obeject (and construct a QUrlPrivate object) | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | this will parse the URL and do all sorts of other foo | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | then at least normalize it | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | and then do a QByteArray comparision | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | zomgwtf | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | something is seriously wrong | 18:07 |
| apachelogger | considering your urls at not particularly complex and I suppose very static a qstring comparision would be way more sensible | 18:07 |
| apachelogger | or (if one can get a QByteArray out of the url object) a QBA compare | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | dude something is very wrong with my system http://imgur.com/1xcZZ | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | same thing, only this time i ran rekonq with gdb | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: maybe you have too rekonqs installed? | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | no | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | cant be | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | whereis rekonq | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | one sec | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | rekonq: /usr/local/bin/rekonq | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | thats it | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: locate libkdeinit4_rekonq.so | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_rekonq.so | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | /usr/local/lib/libkdeinit4_rekonq.so | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | bahahaha | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | ther eis your problem :P | 18:11 |
| * apachelogger was right again yay \\o/ | 18:11 | |
| shadeslayer | how do i fix it? :P | 18:11 |
| apachelogger | dpkg -S libkdeinit4_rekonq.so | 18:11 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger+ | 18:11 |
| apachelogger | if that yields nothing, just sudo rm it | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | which one? :P | 18:11 |
| apachelogger | the one that is not installed by you :P | 18:12 |
| shadeslayer | whee | 18:12 |
| * shadeslayer hugs apachelogger | 18:12 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: now you can fix those KUrls :P | 18:13 |
| shadeslayer | yeah will do :P | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: seems toEncoded would be a good thing | 18:16 |
| * shadeslayer looks that up | 18:16 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: like if (url.toEncoded() == QString("about:home")) | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | no | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | QByteArray("about:home") | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | oic | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | toEncoded returns a QBA | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | the return is QBA | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | QBAs ought to be even lighter to compare than QString | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: also, explicitly create the QBA | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | and then use it in the if statements | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | whai? wont that... wait | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | so you mean | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | QByteArray foo | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | and then assign foo with the about: stuff | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | const QByteArray encodedUrl = url.toEncoded(); | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | something like that | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | then use the encodedUrl in the if statements | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | why? | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | why not just use url.toEncoded() ? | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | otherwise the compiler might be silly enough to explicitly call toEncoded() | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | which would of course be silly since the value does not change inbetween the ifs | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | multiple calls to same functio | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | rght | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | see now quassel is all funny | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | because rekonq eats your memory :P | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: lol..: http://gitorious.org/~shadeslayer/rekonq/rekonq-clone/commit/7e5f99b8014f64ba06cf467ac432b226961f9567 | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | Can't open perl script "/usr/bin/dpkg-source": Cannot allocate memory | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | odness | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | oodness | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | hahah | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | http://gitorious.org/~shadeslayer/rekonq/rekonq-clone/commit/9d1e041d34a9996c563a5c80a7f08a61c952150a | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ^ look what I did there | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | muhahaa | 18:33 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | hm | 18:35 |
| shadeslayer | bah | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: cool, but this is not C ... declare the variable imediately before you use it | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | i.e. before the first if | 18:35 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 18:35 |
| * shadeslayer messed up his git repo tho | 18:36 | |
| * apachelogger wanted to complain about something to rbelem but since he left apachelogger cannot complain and meanwhile forgot it anyway | 18:36 | |
| sheytan | Hey guys | 18:38 |
| sheytan | does ubuntu or Kubuntu have a hardware compability list somwhere? | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | !hardware | 18:39 |
| ubottu | For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | bazinga | 18:39 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer, thank you very much :) | 18:39 |
| sheytan | this will be linked from a kubuntu site :) | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 18:40 |
| dantti_work | apachelogger: do you have a better suggestion? deselect maybe? | 18:41 |
| apachelogger | dantti_work: "Don't change" | 18:42 |
| apachelogger | deselect sounds good though | 18:43 |
| Riddell | rbelem: I was wrong about http://paste.ubuntu.com/482969/ it needs "DejaVu Sans" changed to "Sans" | 18:43 |
| dantti_work | apachelogger: deselect with which icon do you suggest? | 18:43 |
| rbelem | Riddell, ok np ;-) | 18:43 |
| dantti_work | the undo one? | 18:43 |
| apachelogger | dantti_work: yep | 18:44 |
| * ryanakca wishes it were possible to receive a stack of Kubuntu CDs by Software Freedom Day | 18:44 | |
| Riddell | rbelem: when is that? | 18:44 |
| Riddell | ryanakca | 18:44 |
| Riddell | not rbelem | 18:44 |
| rbelem | :-D | 18:44 |
| ryanakca | ... a few librarians at Uni are setting up an Ubuntu stand and giving out Ubuntu CDs, would be nice to give some Kubuntu ones out | 18:44 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: e-mail me your postal address and phone number | 18:45 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: SFD is Sept 18, but they're setting it up for Frosh week (where they greet all the new students), Sept 13-17 | 18:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://gitorious.org/rekonq/rekonq-clone/commit/751103f77e64e1562de1b291d99ee1e262d0d5b4 | 18:46 |
| apachelogger | splendid | 18:47 |
| apachelogger | except | 18:47 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you are adding a line at the end ;) | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | oh my | 18:47 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Thanks. I'll dash accross campus and ask them if they'll let me setup an Kubuntu computer next to their Ubuntu ones... I don't mind setting it up, but there's no point unless they're interested in letting me join them :) | 18:48 |
| shadeslayer | fixed | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: about:favorites goes by default to google search | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | wha! | 18:50 |
| rbelem | Riddell, uploaded to revu :-) | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: same for all about: stuff :/ | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer | fixing | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://gitorious.org/rekonq/rekonq-clone/commit/1bd58ad4f6cf61e4b4dcab9def14eed58e5098d0 | 18:54 |
| apachelogger | mhhh regex | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | no wonder my bar lags :P | 18:55 |
| shadeslayer | possibly | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: open to suggestions | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://gitorious.org/rekonq/mainline/merge_requests/191#bc042edd7fcac53d9f0c3382aa160ae30ceda4a1-bc042edd7fcac53d9f0c3382aa160ae30ceda4a1@3 << | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | you are saved \o/ :P | 19:02 |
| apachelogger | how so? | 19:02 |
| shadeslayer | less of regex i see | 19:02 |
| apachelogger | where? | 19:03 |
| shadeslayer | 191 merge request | 19:03 |
| shadeslayer | http://gitorious.org/rekonq/mainline/merge_requests/191 | 19:03 |
| apachelogger | where is less regex there? | 19:03 |
| shadeslayer | erm... | 19:04 |
| * shadeslayer points at the whole merge request :P | 19:04 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: newtabpage also uses KUrl compares | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | oho | 19:06 |
| apachelogger | hm | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | oh | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | ha | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | hi | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | hu | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | hihihi | 19:09 |
| shadeslayer | that is fast :P | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | grep for "about:favorites" witness bad design | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | rekonq is a super mark full of things to rant about | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | I love it for that | 19:09 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | :O | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | QString address = "[\\d\\w-.]+\\.(a[cdefgilmnoqrstuwz]|b[abdefghijmnorstvwyz]|"\ | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | "c[acdfghiklmnoruvxyz]|d[ejkmnoz]|e[ceghrst]|f[ijkmnor]|g[abdefghilmnpqrstuwy]|"\ | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | "h[kmnrtu]|i[delmnoqrst]|j[emop]|k[eghimnprwyz]|l[abcikrstuvy]|"\ | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | "m[acdghklmnopqrstuvwxyz]|n[acefgilopruz]|om|p[aefghklmnrstwy]|qa|r[eouw]|"\ | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | "s[abcdeghijklmnortuvyz]|t[cdfghjkmnoprtvwz]|u[augkmsyz]|v[aceginu]|w[fs]|"\ | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | "y[etu]|z[amw]|aero|arpa|biz|com|coop|edu|info|int|gov|mil|museum|name|net|org|"\ | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | "pro)"; | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | never | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | ever | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | in | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | my | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | life | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | have | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | I | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | seen | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | such | 19:11 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | an abomination | 19:11 |
| shadeslayer | my god | 19:11 |
| shadeslayer | what is that | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | not only your's, mine too | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: supposedly that is the regex that gets the address or something | 19:11 |
| nigelb | perl? | 19:11 |
| maco | O_o | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | clearly the part towards the end gets the TLD | 19:12 |
| nigelb | ah, regex for email | 19:12 |
| maco | no not email | 19:12 |
| emonkey | Riddell, Unfortunately my skills don't allow it, but if I find a day off I'll check if I'm able to learn it | 19:12 |
| shadeslayer | @_@ | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | nigelb: that is from our current default browser | 19:12 |
| maco | its looking for a URL where the letters of the alphabet are embedded in alphabetical order | 19:12 |
| nigelb | apachelogger: now you know why you should switch to firefox :p | 19:12 |
| maco | i think | 19:12 |
| * nigelb goes to bed. For real. | 19:12 | |
| shadeslayer | ^ me too.. | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | well, it does general parsing very much since it is in the ctor of rekonqs UrlResolver | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | nights people | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | nigelb: I very much think same things are to be found in firefox | 19:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: will continue this tommorow.. or if you want to fix, go ahead ;) | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | probably even worse | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | otherwise it couldnt eat that much mem | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: protocolhandler also uses kurl compares | 19:14 |
| shadeslayer | brrrr | 19:14 |
| * shadeslayer greps for KUrl | 19:14 | |
| * apachelogger is scared out of his pants | 19:14 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: just grep for about: :P | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | everywhere that is used a == KUrl cant be far :P | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | also you can rejoice the bad design that lead to multiple occurances of this identifier :P | 19:15 |
| shadeslayer | gah | 19:15 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, where can i find docs for source-format 3? | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | DrKonqi: google debian wiki source format 3 | 19:19 |
| DrKonqi | apachelogger: Results for debian wiki source format 3: 1. Projects/DebSrc3.0 - Debian Wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0 | 2. RPM Package Manager - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPM_Package_Manager | 3. 7-Zip - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7-Zip | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: man dpkg-source should also have some information | 19:19 |
| rbelem | cool | 19:20 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, thanks | 19:20 |
| sheytan | Hey, i heard some time ago, that the next ubuntu release will not support cpu older then i686. If it's true, same happens to kubuntu? | 19:22 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer | we were going to get rid of some archs | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer | i64, armel, or some other arch | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer | but im not entirely sure :P | 19:24 |
| sheytan | let me ask the question other way. What should i put to 'processor' in kubuntu system requirements? :D | 19:24 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 19:24 |
| shadeslayer | no idea :P | 19:24 |
| sheytan | or maybe a lists like pentium4, c2d, c2q, i3, etc + some amd? | 19:24 |
| sheytan | or 'at least a ... cpu' :D | 19:24 |
| maco | i686 or newer for 10.10 | 19:27 |
| sheytan | thanks :) | 19:27 |
| sheytan | Will i be punished when i wirte that to use kubuntu users need at least 256mb ram, and recommended is 1GB? :D | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ciao | 19:28 |
| sheytan | i mean, to run all that desktop effects stuff, 1gb is fine | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | id say more like 512 MB or more | 19:28 |
| sheytan | on the cd case its 256 :D | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | if theres only the default effects | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | that should really be updated :( | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | 512 MB is more like it | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | anyways im off to sleep... cya tommorow :) | 19:29 |
| sheytan_ | Does others have priettier hardware compability page then We will http://a.imageshack.us/img682/843/hard.png ? :D | 20:26 |
| Riddell | where will you get the information for it? | 20:27 |
| sheytan_ | Riddell https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport :) | 20:27 |
| Riddell | hmm, dunno if that's at all reliable | 20:28 |
| sheytan_ | well, it's always something :) | 20:29 |
| sheytan_ | better then none :P | 20:29 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| ari-tczew | Riddell: konversation notification (red baloon) doesn't work :( | 21:01 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, I think the package is ok now | 21:01 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: I'm not sure whether it's a konversation issue, because there wasn't any konversation updates. maybe kde has something wrong? | 21:01 |
| Riddell | red baloon? | 21:02 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: in tray, if someone ping me, then black icon is moving to red icon | 21:02 |
| ari-tczew | now it's not working | 21:03 |
| ari-tczew | I know about ping only through indicator applet | 21:03 |
| Riddell | ari-tczew: works for me once I turn on the system tray icon | 21:16 |
| Riddell | it's off by default | 21:16 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: where is this one? | 21:19 |
| Riddell | ari-tczew: Behaviour->General in settings dialogue | 21:21 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: I have enable system tray already :( | 21:22 |
| freeflyi1g | Riddell: SKIM is nearly useless nowadays under KDE4 | 23:50 |
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