| bcurtiswx | Ok, quick poll. best IRC client? | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| bcurtiswx | im debating, empathy, irssi, xchat | 00:01 |
| BUGabundo | pidgin | 00:03 |
| * BUGabundo runs | 00:03 | |
| rooks | xchat-gnome is what i use, it has notifications, and it does look decent | 00:03 |
| BUGabundo | no weechat ? | 00:03 |
| yofel | erm, empathy is actually considered as an irc client? (my votes: CLI: irssi GTK: xchat QT4: quassel) | 00:03 |
| BUGabundo | mIRC | 00:03 |
| * BUGabundo runs faster | 00:04 | |
| yofel | rofl | 00:04 |
| bcurtiswx | yofel: lol. yeah I promote empathy.. but I really haven't found a fav | 00:04 |
| * rooks slaps BUGabundo around with a large trout | 00:04 | |
| * bcurtiswx is using irssi atm | 00:04 | |
| * yofel throws a bunch of XWindows after BUGabundo and hides | 00:04 | |
| * bcurtiswx shoves BUGabundo into the next network | 00:04 | |
| BUGabundo | webchat.freenode.net (no ssl) using IE6 | 00:05 |
| BUGabundo | /me runs faster then Tyson Gay | 00:05 |
| bcurtiswx | can xchat be minimized to the indicator-applet and not hog window chooser space? | 00:05 |
| shadeslayer | bcurtiswx: quassel :P | 00:06 |
| rooks | bcurtiswx, it can show icon in tray when somone messages you, and also it can issue a that handy notification that shows in same are where wlan-connected is showed | 00:06 |
| shadeslayer | you can run a instance of quassel core on your server and leave it online as long as the server is online | 00:06 |
| rooks | bcurtiswx, xchat-gnome at least comes with default plugins that can do that | 00:07 |
| * bcurtiswx will try that out | 00:07 | |
| bcurtiswx | brb | 00:09 |
| rooks | can somone message me? so i can do screenshot on how it works? | 00:11 |
| BUGabundo | rooks: ping | 00:12 |
| BUGabundo | rooks: ping | 00:12 |
| BUGabundo | rooks: ping | 00:12 |
| rooks | http://ubuntuone.com/p/DgH/ http://ubuntuone.com/p/DgI/ | 00:13 |
| BUGabundo | I won't even dare ask how SLOW you PC is | 00:14 |
| BUGabundo | with that theme , thanks to the GTK bug | 00:14 |
| rooks | ? | 00:14 |
| BUGabundo | care to run gtrpref ? | 00:14 |
| BUGabundo | *gtk | 00:14 |
| rooks | it works fast, its on msi wind u100+ | 00:15 |
| rooks | in a sec | 00:15 |
| rooks | BUGabundo, http://pastebin.ca/1923776 | 00:17 |
| BUGabundo | Total time: 34.58 | 00:17 |
| BUGabundo | on a dust / dark human mix | 00:17 |
| rooks | 43.sth | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | I can make it go as low as 16 sec | 00:18 |
| rooks | i dont care :) | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | in clearlooks | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | its SLOW | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | believe me | 00:18 |
| rooks | cozy > fast | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | anything above 20/30 | 00:18 |
| rooks | i like it that way, i ran archlinux with openbox for last few years, and i now want cozy :) | 00:19 |
| rooks | and withas little tweeks to the system as possible | 00:19 |
| rooks | i run it with compiz on my netbook | 00:19 |
| rooks | btw | 00:19 |
| bcurtiswx | hmm xchat-gnome-indicator just spawns xchat windows :( | 00:21 |
| rooks | bcurtiswx, http://ubuntuone.com/p/DgH/ http://ubuntuone.com/p/DgI/ | 00:21 |
| rooks | bcurtiswx, there are 2 plugins, one spawns taskbar, other spawns that indicataor boubble | 00:23 |
| bcurtiswx | rooks, yes i have them both | 00:23 |
| bcurtiswx | brb | 00:23 |
| rooks | BUGabundo, at present i try to get high statistics at not touching my system and keeping all stuff as COTS as possible :) | 00:25 |
| rooks | bcurtiswx, at present i try to get high statistics at not touching my system and keeping all stuff as COTS as possible, that what led me to chosing xchat-gnome to have something gui-simple to use, it might not work for you if you want some more customizations or other thingies out of it | 00:32 |
| bcurtiswx | xchat-gnome-indicator needs work.. it just spawns xchat gnome sessions' | 00:32 |
| bcurtiswx | rooks: OK thx | 00:32 |
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| tjlytle | Installed the netbook alpha 3 last night on a Dell mini. Installation seemed to run fine, but now I just get a blinking '_' on boot. If I hit the right shift, I just get 'GRUB loading' with the blinking '_' on the next line. Didn't see anything about that online, known issue? | 01:02 |
| Dink | tjlytle: do you get a terminal ? ctrl-alt-f2 or what not | 01:11 |
| tjlytle | dink: Was trying last night - I think I tried that. I'll check real quick. | 01:12 |
| tjlytle | Yeah, no terminal. Can't even seem to get to the grub menu (just hangs with 'GRUB Loading'). | 01:13 |
| Dink | can't even get into grub menu ? | 01:14 |
| Dink | Try reinstalling grub using livecd | 01:15 |
| tjlytle | I hit shift on boot and just get a 'GRUB loading' then the blinking '_'. | 01:16 |
| tjlytle | That's what I'm about to try - just was wondering if this was a known issue or just something weird. | 01:16 |
| Dink | I actually had that on my acer netbook but I think it was with alpha2 | 01:17 |
| tjlytle | Of course, while the ship with Ubuntu, these Dells don't seem to get along well with newer versions. | 01:17 |
| Dink | Not sure about mini but dells always have hidden partitions. Wonder if grub didn't get installed properly | 01:18 |
| Dink | but yea try to manual install it | 01:18 |
| tjlytle | Hmm...good point. I know I wiped the whole disk on my other Mini, but this was an install on a 'stock' system. | 01:19 |
| tjlytle | Still just did a 'use the whole disk' in install though. | 01:19 |
| jamesw | hi | 01:41 |
| jamesw | i get a bunch of 'ignoring file' statements on my apt-get installs, can someone please help? http://pastebin.com/5MNJuh6q | 01:41 |
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| DanaG | argh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/612432 | 04:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 612432 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "UEFI boot needs Experimental branch of Grub" [Undecided,New] | 04:29 |
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| Viglite | Thank you. | 09:51 |
| htorque | wow, i just deleted a 300mb .xsession-errors file full of nautilus warnings oO | 10:35 |
| Machtin | uhm.. any hint why i get freezes so frequently? like system freezes, mouse still works, but nothing else. | 11:31 |
| Machtin | (except it being alpha) | 11:31 |
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| dp | after a recent upgrade, lots of things are moving at 3x speed; youtube videos, pianobar playing, etc; any ideas? | 15:12 |
| kklimonda | hey, is anyone else having problem with X using a lot of cpu? I'm using nvidia closed drivers | 15:48 |
| Volkodav | yes - my xorg is averaging 35 % CPU | 15:50 |
| lauser | When I try to install the Ubuntu Maverick daily alternate, I can't get the alternate CD to boot. It says "Unknown key word in config file" before even getting to the menu. | 16:27 |
| lauser | The desktop CD boots, but I already tried installing from it. Ubuiqity trashed my hard drive, so I'm going to stick with alternate CDs for a little while. | 16:29 |
| lauser | Any ideas? | 16:29 |
| charlie-tca | Could be a problem with today's image. I have not gotten it to sync yet today, my connection is bad | 16:30 |
| lauser | charlie-tca: It's been doing this for about two weeks now. | 16:31 |
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| charlie-tca | I have been able to install images here | 16:33 |
| lauser | charlie-tca: Must be something with my hardware. Wonder what, though... | 16:34 |
| charlie-tca | Try a hard drive check, maybe | 16:35 |
| charlie-tca | are the cd's passing the integrity checks? | 16:35 |
| lauser | charlie-tca: It's not getting far enough for me to run an integrity check. | 16:35 |
| lauser | (Also, the images are oversized, so I'm running them on a thumb drive) | 16:36 |
| lauser | charlie-tca: Oddly, it works in VirtualBox. | 16:36 |
| lauser | Maybe it's a problem with my thumb drive, I'll try a different one. | 16:37 |
| charlie-tca | hmm, wonder if they are losing something coming off the thumb drive then? | 16:37 |
| lauser | charlie-tca: I'm running md5sum now, I'll find out. | 16:41 |
| lauser | charlie-tca: Output of md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep "FAILED": http://pastebin.com/R5enQXBM | 16:44 |
| lauser | charlie-tca: Looks like three files are missing. | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | that could be the issue, then | 16:44 |
| lauser | charlie-tca: Hm, don't think so. Those files are symbolic links, and they look like they're only for netboots. | 16:47 |
| lauser | (That also explains why they weren't on the thumb drive; it's a FAT filesystem, which of course doesn't support symbolic links) | 16:47 |
| lauser | charlie-tca: I'm leaving to try again. | 16:50 |
| Machtin | How could I check why my system keeps freezing? | 17:35 |
| mikebeecham | hi guys...does anyone know when the Ubuntu Sans font will be released? | 17:36 |
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| kklimonda | mikebeecham: when it's ready - you can download the current beta version if you have an LP account and are a member of kubuntu-users group | 17:59 |
| kklimonda | bah, lets see If I can get smaller Xorg usage from open drivers - even switching virtual desktops is painful :/ | 18:08 |
| Ian_corne | kklimonda: which driver are you using atm? | 18:13 |
| Ian_corne | Is the nvidia driver working yet? | 18:14 |
| kklimonda | Ian_corne: 255.44 works | 18:15 |
| kklimonda | you have to add IgnoreABI to xorg.conf | 18:15 |
| kklimonda | 256.44& | 18:15 |
| Ian_corne | ok | 18:15 |
| skydrome | anyone know why this happens? using fileroller to extract an archive, the progress bar is always in the middle | 18:57 |
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| mikebeecham | kklimonda, thanks mate...I guess by my question "whats an LP account?" would mean I'm not supposed to have the beta :D | 19:31 |
| Pici | launchpad. | 19:31 |
| mikebeecham | ahhh ok | 19:32 |
| mikebeecham | I've started doing some Ubuntu wallpaper packs, and I'm using png logos at the moment...which doesn't help! There is a font out there which I nabbed, but dont think it's the sans...I think it's a "made to look like it" | 19:32 |
| dp | after a recent upgrade, lots of things are moving at 3x speed; youtube videos, pianobar playing, etc; any ideas? | 20:15 |
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| BUGabundo | ssd is here | 20:24 |
| BUGabundo | preping pendrive with daily cd image | 20:24 |
| BUGabundo | any last advice ? | 20:24 |
| BUGabundo | I'll try both ext4 and btrfs | 20:24 |
| BUGabundo | AFAIK I need /boot to be on non-btrfs right? | 20:24 |
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| BUGabundo | $ sudo usb-creator-gtk -i maverick-desktop-amd64.iso | 20:35 |
| yofel_ | BUGabundo: right, for btrfs on / you need ext /boot for now, and if you use ext4 on a SSD you might want to add the 'discard' mount option as TRIM is disabled by defaul on ext4 AFAIK | 20:38 |
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| BUGabundo | will try btrfs 1st | 20:39 |
| BUGabundo | how do I enable trim? | 20:39 |
| BUGabundo | brb rebooting to test pendrive with Maverick, and if ok, replacing disk | 20:40 |
| Volkodav | just put ssd option in fstab | 20:40 |
| BUGabundo | okat | 20:40 |
| Volkodav | if it doen not detect it at install | 20:41 |
| BUGabundo | you guys will tell me all about it | 20:41 |
| BUGabundo | when I return on a fresh isntall | 20:41 |
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| CarlFK | why does System, Prefs, Power Management only have 2 tabs: "On AC Power" and "General" ? (no battery power tab or settings) | 21:40 |
| mfraz74 | is the package ubuntu-netbook still installable in ubuntu 10.10? | 21:48 |
| yofel | !info ubuntu-netbook maverick | mfraz74 | 21:53 |
| ubottu | mfraz74: ubuntu-netbook (source: netbook-meta): The Ubuntu Netbook system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.031 (maverick), package size 33 kB, installed size 60 kB | 21:53 |
| mfraz74 | yofel: so i could install that instead of unity? | 21:54 |
| yofel | that I don't know | 21:54 |
| mfraz74 | ok | 21:56 |
| ripps | ubuntu-netbook depends on unity | 21:56 |
| mfraz74 | oh :( | 21:56 |
| DrHalan | where do i find packages for evolution 2.31/2.32? | 22:10 |
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| charlie-tca | DrHalan: maybe in a ppa? the latest version in Maverick is 2.30.2, so anything later will either be at the developers or in a PPA | 22:28 |
| DrHalan | charlie-tca: yeah already searched launchpad but didn't find anyhting | 22:28 |
| charlie-tca | here is the ftp for it from gnome - http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/evolution/2.31/ | 22:29 |
| charlie-tca | Looks like it is packaged for Debian Sid too | 22:31 |
| charlie-tca | hmm, nope | 22:31 |
| yofel | !info evolution unstable | 22:32 |
| ubottu | evolution (source: evolution): groupware suite with mail client and organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.30.3-1 (unstable), package size 1083 kB, installed size 4588 kB | 22:32 |
| yofel | nope, 2.30.3 | 22:32 |
| charlie-tca | You would have to compile it yourself - http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/download.shtml | 22:33 |
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| yofel | hm, kernel -18 gives me some error about being unable to initalize i915 right and that it disabled graphics turbo mode. Erm, I have an nvidia card... | 22:47 |
| yofel | anyone else got something like that? | 22:48 |
| yofel | it does start fine after that though | 22:48 |
| smallfoot- | why does Ubuntu "Maverick" 10.10 install Java, but Ubuntu 10.04 don't have Java installed by default? | 22:55 |
| yofel | depends on what is pulling java in, java doesn't explicitely belong to the default installtion in maverick either | 22:56 |
| smallfoot- | but java is in maverick dfeault install | 22:57 |
| smallfoot- | why? | 22:57 |
| yofel | well, because a package that *is* in the default install depends on it, I don't know more either without digging into the package dependencies | 23:00 |
| smallfoot- | oh | 23:06 |
| smallfoot- | when will ubuntu have python3? | 23:08 |
| yofel | not for a while I think, the python 2.7 rebuilds didn't go well, so we'll still have 2.6 as default in maverick | 23:09 |
| bjsnider | yofel, i'd say the i915 thing is just the kernel being too verbose | 23:09 |
| yofel | bjsnider: I agree, was just irritated as -16 doesn't give me that | 23:10 |
| bjsnider | well, every time i boot lucid it says "failed to open /dev/null" which is very annoying | 23:12 |
| yofel | o.O | 23:12 |
| bjsnider | i wonder if those two issues might be related to nvidia not having kms | 23:13 |
| smallfoot- | is this java thing in maverick the fault of openoffice? | 23:13 |
| smallfoot- | is this java thing in maverick the fault of openoffice? | 23:24 |
| smallfoot- | i think is fault of openoffice.org-java-common | 23:25 |
| BUGabundo | I SURVIVED!!!!! | 23:29 |
| BUGabundo | ssd running fine | 23:29 |
| charlie-tca | BUGabundo: you mad | 23:30 |
| charlie-tca | e it | 23:30 |
| BUGabundo | I am, sir | 23:30 |
| BUGabundo | now need to migrate all stuff | 23:31 |
| BUGabundo | already reinstalled most of the app | 23:31 |
| charlie-tca | grandson helping type | 23:31 |
| BUGabundo | gotta love dselect | 23:31 |
| charlie-tca | he's only 18 months | 23:31 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 23:31 |
| BUGabundo | hi charlie granson | 23:31 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 23:32 |
| BUGabundo | how the H do I boot from the old disk, now that it is outside in USB? | 23:32 |
| BUGabundo | it stall at grub | 23:32 |
| charlie-tca | Re-install grub | 23:32 |
| charlie-tca | or run sudo update-grub | 23:33 |
| BUGabundo | so, chroot and update it ? | 23:33 |
| BUGabundo | won't it mess primary system? | 23:33 |
| charlie-tca | hmm, I don't chroot | 23:33 |
| BUGabundo | you don't ? | 23:33 |
| BUGabundo | but its another system | 23:33 |
| charlie-tca | sure! I am positive it will mess with primary system... | 23:33 |
| BUGabundo | another disk, not even running the OS | 23:33 |
| BUGabundo | that's what I DON'T wanna do | 23:33 |
| BUGabundo | so chroot is the way | 23:33 |
| charlie-tca | I don't anything about chroot. I am just a simple user | 23:34 |
| BUGabundo | but it won't know its running over usb | 23:34 |
| BUGabundo | yeah right | 23:34 |
| BUGabundo | you and your 18 month kid | 23:34 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 23:34 |
| charlie-tca | both of us are simple users | 23:34 |
| BUGabundo | Volkodav: before I left you were saying something about fstab? | 23:35 |
| BUGabundo | funny enough not seeing any slow down in aptitude | 23:37 |
| BUGabundo | as mention in the btrfs bug | 23:37 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe not everyone sees it? | 23:40 |
| BUGabundo | !controls | 23:40 |
| ubottu | In Lucid, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons have been moved to the left side. For more information, please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/532633/comments/564 | To move them back to the right-hand side, see http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/move-buttons-to-right-side | 23:40 |
| BUGabundo | that's better :DDDDD | 23:41 |
| BUGabundo | MAUAU | 23:41 |
| BUGabundo | my last boot was of 23 secs | 23:41 |
| BUGabundo | the second boot in SSD after install was 13 sec | 23:41 |
| smallfoot- | i think is fault of openoffice.org-java-common? | 23:43 |
| smallfoot- | WHY MAVerick needs java? | 23:43 |
| smallfoot- | maverick installs java by default | 23:43 |
| smallfoot- | why?? | 23:43 |
| smallfoot- | lucid didnt do this | 23:43 |
| smallfoot- | this is fault of openoffice? | 23:43 |
| BUGabundo | 238MB/s | 23:43 |
| BUGabundo | $ sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda | 23:45 |
| BUGabundo | /dev/sda: | 23:45 |
| BUGabundo | Timing cached reads: 2958 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1479.15 MB/sec | 23:45 |
| BUGabundo | Timing buffered disk reads: 676 MB in 3.01 seconds = 224.83 MB/sec | 23:45 |
| BUGabundo | its stupid nvidia blob and SSHD that are making my boot 10 sec slower :( | 23:49 |
| smallfoot- | :( | 23:52 |
| smallfoot- | Timing cached reads: 3252 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1626.62 MB/sec | 23:53 |
| smallfoot- | Timing buffered disk reads: 694 MB in 3.01 seconds = 230.58 MB/sec | 23:53 |
| smallfoot- | Intel X-25M G2 80 gb SSD, bitch! | 23:53 |
| BUGabundo | really faster then mine | 23:54 |
| BUGabundo | let me compare ext4 vs btrfs | 23:54 |
| smallfoot- | i use ext4 | 23:54 |
| charlie-tca | I need one of those things, too. | 23:54 |
| smallfoot- | but im using CFQ, i should be using Deadline | 23:54 |
| * charlie-tca also needs a computer that will boot from ssd's | 23:54 | |
| BUGabundo | /dev/sda1: (ext4) | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | Timing cached reads: 3230 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1615.89 MB/sec | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | Timing buffered disk reads: 694 MB in 3.01 seconds = 230.79 MB/sec | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | /dev/sda5: (BTRFS) | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | Timing cached reads: 3088 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1544.67 MB/sec | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | Timing buffered disk reads: 704 MB in 3.00 seconds = 234.45 MB/sec | 23:55 |
| smallfoot- | not much change | 23:55 |
| smallfoot- | what scheduler you use? | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | stock MM | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | no idea | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | what should I use in fstab to make it nicer? | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | discard ?! | 23:56 |
| smallfoot- | cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | noop deadline [cfq] | 23:58 |
| smallfoot- | ya, i use cfq too | 23:58 |
| smallfoot- | i heard noop and deadline yields better performance on SSD | 23:59 |
| BUGabundo | no idea | 23:59 |
| BUGabundo | as I said, it's a fresh install of daily MM | 23:59 |
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