=== simar__mohaar is now known as simar [00:43] vish: when do you sleep .. you are tireless .. [00:45] vish: or that you are already having a nap .. hehe [01:55] hi! it seems my bugcontrol membership has lapsed, is it possible to have it renewed? [01:55] I was attempting to triage a bug and, I couldn't! [02:00] Which bug? I'll set status for you whilst you're waiting for someone to renew. [02:17] persia: I'm trying to set the status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/wxbanker/+bug/623055 to Triaged for the Ubuntu task, since there is a confirmed upstream task [02:17] Launchpad bug 623055 in wxbanker (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "wxbanker crashed with IndexError in load_series() (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] [02:17] low importance would also be ideal, I suppose! [02:19] mrooney, Done [02:19] persia: thanks! [02:35] mrooney: ah there you are! Want back in? [02:35] hggdh: so bad! :) [02:36] mrooney: looking into it now [02:36] thanks! [02:37] mrooney: welcome back! You are all set [02:37] thanks so much! [02:37] have I missed anything exciting in my absense? [02:38] there are always exciting moments here... [02:38] but I am glad you are back :-) [03:56] nite all [04:33] hi [07:10] vish: you know me [07:10] http://justanothertriager.wordpress.com/2010/08/24/cleansweep-update/ [07:11] I really don't like giving up :p [07:11] (You'll be featured on UWN next week too) [08:34] hi guys, I may need help on how to file a bug report, I have googled a lot and cant find a fix for my problem,,,,, my touchpad doesnt work well under ubuntu, it does in windows [08:35] amigojapan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/simar/Touchpad should help you [08:35] thanx kermiac [08:49] I'd like to report a bug in libffi5, but I can't find the associated project in https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs. Am I searching incorrectly, or do I need to add the project somehow? === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar [09:12] ppearse, did you tried to run "ubuntu-bug libffi5" in a terminal ? [09:16] This is a cross compile build bug - I was trying to submit a report manually. Will ubuntu-bug allow me to attach my fix patch? [09:16] jibel: Oops, broadcast rather than directed [09:16] ppearse, You'll have to attach the patch after the bug is filed, but sure. [09:17] jibel: OK I'll do that then [09:17] ppearse, yes, it will collect the information from your local system, then redirect you to launchpad to add any information you want. [09:17] (asking the entire channel is often preferred here, unless there is a specific need for a specific individual) [09:21] hey persia I'm sorry for asking this too many times but what happened to coolbhavi's application? [09:22] <^arky^> mvo, hi [09:24] jibel: That worked - thanx. [10:09] hi there [10:09] did I miss something in bug 615509 to be reviewed for SRU validation? [10:09] Launchpad bug 615509 in collectd (Ubuntu) "[SRU] curl_json plugin is unable to check local files (affects: 1) (heat: 440)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615509 [10:12] baptistemm, hi [10:12] baptistemm, yes, to subscribe ubuntu-sponsors [10:12] baptistemm, I don't see anything missing. I'd recommend asking in #ubuntu-testing in a few hours: the SRU-verification people tend to hang out there. [10:12] baptistemm, ubuntu-sru review things in the upload queue [10:12] seb128, Does it no longer need approval pre-upload? [10:13] did it ever do? [10:13] I'm not really aware of universe rules so ignore me if I'm wrong [10:13] what I said stands for main uploads [10:14] The process got unified, but I've never been sure if it needed upload first or not since unification. [10:15] there was an "SRUs: Upload *FIRST* for review" discussion on ubuntu-devel@l.u.c recently [10:16] but that discussion did go far it seems, out of pitti agreeing since that's what is done for main for a while [10:20] ubuntu-sponsor is already subscribed [10:20] upload first makes sense, since the LP UI exposes useful stuff to non-archive-admins now. [10:28] hmm , anyone with an idea why make keeps failing > http://paste.ubuntu.com/482821/ [10:30] I'v tried installing dbus-test-runner with ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local && make and ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr && make , but both seem to not help.. :s [10:30] rather, neither* [10:33] baptistemm, no they are not [10:33] baptistemm, they would be on the right side list [10:33] doh, I was watching the wrong bug :/ [10:33] thekorn: hey! [10:34] thanks seb128 [10:34] baptistemm, you're welcome [10:34] hi vish [10:35] thekorn: finally i for the deps installed, but not able to install the dee :i get this error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/482821/ [10:35] s/for/got [10:36] i tried the dbus-test-runner with ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local too, but dint help [10:40] gah! netsplits! [10:43] vish: you have to `make install` the dbus-test-runner [10:43] our just make and make sure the resulting executable is in PATH [10:44] hmm , i thought i did the install , let me try again.. [10:52] doh! i had tried make without root priv! and i dint notice the permissons denied error ! :/ [10:53] make install that is.. [10:53] oh, maybe I should have mentioned it [10:54] thekorn: yay! make check seems to have gone right? : http://paste.ubuntu.com/482833/ [10:56] vish: congrats ;) that's exactly what mikkel was looking for [10:56] \o/ [11:17] thekorn: thanks .. :) [11:17] thekorn: also, how do you retrace the .crash locally? [i have a couple of bugs still waiting for retracers :)] [11:22] vish: that's easy, install apport-retrace, and create a file called /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ddebs.list with this one line as content: [11:23] deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com maverick main restricted universe multiverse [11:23] (this are the debug symbols), and run apt-get update [11:24] hey thekorn [11:24] and then all you need to do is running apport-retrace like [11:24] thekorn, bug #620458 [11:24] Launchpad bug 620458 in malone (and 1 other project) "cannot access attachments of private bugs any more (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620458 [11:24] thekorn, you left before I read your comment the other day saying it works for you [11:24] seb128: hi, don't tell me you don't want people to run the retracer locally ;) [11:24] thekorn, that's the launchpad bug breaking the retracers [11:25] seb128: yes, it's working for me, maybe all you have to do is creating new credentials with maximum power? [11:25] thekorn, did you try on private bugs? [11:25] thekorn, it works on public ones [11:25] seb128: yes, but let me double check [11:25] thekorn, it might be working on bugs you opened as well [11:26] haha, ok [11:26] thekorn, did you try to retrace a private bug not opened by you? [11:26] I indeed only tried it on bugs I opend [11:26] let me try a random one [11:29] thekorn: hmm , you got interupted before you give me the secret command! ;p [11:30] damn, I'm bad at multitasking [11:30] sorry [11:31] vish: sudo apport-retrace -o /tmp/result.retrace [11:31] vish: or if you want to attach the result directly to the bugreport [11:32] hehe , nah, no probs.. its like in the movies just when the suspense is about to be revealed something happens [11:32] thekorn: oh! neat thanks :) [11:32] sudo apport-retrace --auth launchpad.credentials [11:32] where launchpad.credentials are saved credentials from launchpadlib [11:33] k... [11:36] * vish reboots [11:36] noooo, you are not on windows.... [11:45] seb128: I can indeed reproduce the lp bug, attachments of private bugs which are not created by me are not accessible via the API, [11:46] but I get a different error [11:47] thekorn, you might have a fixed httplib2 [11:48] ? [11:48] cf the httplib2 bugwatch [11:48] seb128: right, seems like httplib2 only prints some more verbose error message [11:49] good to see the lp guys working on this issue [11:49] indeed [11:59] thekorn: Does anyone have a email address for those that are fixing it? I'd like to email them and ask "Is it fixed yet?" :-D lol [13:12] hello pedro_ :) [13:13] hey devildante! [13:15] * pedro_ hugs devildante [13:15] devildante, you ROCK. [13:15] * devildante hugs pedro_ back [13:15] pedro_: you rock TOO. [13:16] but wait, why do I rock? :p [13:17] devildante, just checked my email and realize you managed to triage almost all the bugs on the bug day page ;-) [13:17] oh [13:17] that's *awesome* :-) [13:18] pedro_: thx :) [13:18] pedro_: I would have done all of them, but micahg told me I should let some for you :p [13:18] you all, I mean === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar [14:21] hi kamusin :) [14:22] hey devildante [14:22] hello devildante [14:22] hi abhijit :) [14:23] :) [14:23] you have closed lot of reports , good work ;) [14:24] kamusin, he's a bugs addict :-) [14:25] looks like such a bug eater :P [14:27] kamusin, pedro_: thx :) [14:48] pedro_, hggdh, hello [14:48] jibel: morning [14:49] pedro_, hggdh: here is the list I promised for yesterday: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JeanBaptisteLallement/RegressionReport [14:49] That's a tough one for a bug day. [14:50] heh [14:52] hggdh, I've read a large part of them and that's really hard to triage. [14:56] jibel: then I guess we will have to get it done ourselves... [15:01] jibel, thanks for the report ;-) [15:07] I wanted to help out with triaging bugs but everything seems so confusing. Can anyone suggest a simple step by step approach? [15:08] wmrit, you can request for mentor. [15:10] wmrit: step by step guides aren't really possible as it depends a lot on the submitted bug. [15:11] ok I'll check around the site for a mentor [15:12] wmrit, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad [15:13] wmrit, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors [15:16] Ok I don't know how to set up a wiki page, I have signed the code of conduct and I am signed in with launch pad [15:18] wmrit, ask in #ubuntu-doc [15:18] wmrit, see the links in the topic of that channel [15:18] Thanks [15:32] is launchpad acting slow today or it's just me ? [15:36] pedro_: that seems to be the only not slow for me. :-( [15:36] darn. [15:36] Even Xchat here has a 1.7 sec lag [15:36] pedro_, it's slow there [15:37] seb128, thanks so it's no only me, i was about to kick my router [15:37] devildante: not that you /have/ to leave some pie for us.. you can have it fully too.. ;p [15:37] devildante: no one will complain you finished bug day ;p [15:37] vish: is that true? [15:37] bug day, here I come! :p [15:38] devildante, vish well only kamusin will be jealous :-P [15:38] hehe! [15:38] Pici: i'm not the only one who was surprised[rather late] by the paste.u.c new theme :D : https://twitter.com/asacasa/statuses/21994422671 [15:39] haha in some way it's true :P [15:39] hahaha [15:39] i knew it! [15:39] * devildante lets out evil scream [15:39] we can always put more bugs there you know [15:39] there's plenty of triaged ones waiting for patches, etc [15:45] * devildante is beginning to love appmenu-gtk :p [15:50] vish: Ah, refreshed my cache, now it looks nice. [15:50] Pici: lol! you dint know either! :D [16:00] sense: last i heard bdmurray mentioned he was busy.. hence those students were still waiting. but hope he is free now :) [16:00] vish: Ah, didn't know that. I assumed he could take at least one student since he didn't have the 'currently unavailable' phrase in front of his name in the table. [16:01] sense: hmm, maybe i should have updated that on the wiki :( [16:05] vish: talking about our mentorship program: seems like I have no luck with my students, noone answered to my various mails, and the one who was bussy with other things for about one month did not report back either [16:06] thekorn: no worries, we deactivate them :) [16:06] cool, I think I'm free for a new one then [16:08] sense: hmm, i did move bdmurray lower down the table! folks below are the unavailable ;p [16:08] vish: Maybe we could create a separate table for that? [16:09] sense: maybe.. but i think we neeeeeeeed to take a roll call on those available too! pedro_ had tasked hggdh to crack the whip! ;) [16:10] People should remove inactive students so we know who can take up some new. [16:10] * hggdh wakes up [16:13] dinner time, afk! [16:13] okidoki, so all I should do now is removing my students [16:14] ? [16:14] thekorn: sure.. you can do it too, i'v deactivated them from the team as well [16:15] sense: isnt it too early for dinner! ;p [16:15] * vish gonna have dinner only now! and is on a TZ far ahead of sense ;p [16:18] maybe he has to hunt his meal first?! ;) [16:30] devildante: around? [16:30] nigelb: yep [16:48] vish: Dutch generally eat early, but today we ate extra early because my brother has got a football match this evening. [16:59] :) [17:24] Kde users help https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/427846 [17:24] Launchpad bug 427846 in ubuntu "Thinkpad T400s laptop dock events not enabling/disabling external display (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] [17:42] hi [17:42] hi [17:43] pedro_: around? [17:43] njin, yes [17:43] hello pedro [17:44] hola === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak === nuboon2age_ is now known as nUboon2Age [19:30] sense: hey! [19:53] pedro_: can you triage bug 622622? I reported it upstream ;) [19:53] Launchpad bug 622622 in gnome-media (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "floated letters in sound preferences dialog (russian translation) (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622622 [19:53] devildante, awesome! marking it now [19:54] looks like I'm fast :p [19:54] thanks pedro_ ;) [19:54] no problem :-) [20:07] anyone here notice that the base server and desktop installs (only default packages) generate different group IDs for the same groups and a conflicting user ID? [20:07] are there known issues with update-initramfs not behaving properly? [20:09] is there a channel for help with livecd customization? [20:10] Maybe #ubuntu-installer [20:10] i seem to be stuck in a nasty loop of apt/dpkg and update-initramfs/mkinitramfs that I cannot break out of [20:11] jzarr, there's a pretty detailed wiki page in the community documentation on how to customize the CD [20:11] anyone willing to take a crack at it? [20:11] charlie-tca: pedro_: while announcing bug days, werent we also usually mentioning ways to debug for the specific app, like for banshee there was no mention of what we need to request info about [20:12] jaminc, ive been there, need a little more info than the page has, i think i need to modify some of the casper-bottom stuff, but not sure [20:12] i had to look at other triaged bugs and see what they usually need for debugging. [20:12] vish, 'usually' yes, we point users to doc if we have those [20:12] We mention it if there is a specific procedure requested from the devs, too. [20:13] pedro_: yeah , why i ask is we seem to slowly forget mentioning that info in the wiki recently :D [20:13] jzarr, what are you trying to get it to do? [20:13] last i recall was we had that was for Ubuntuone.. [20:13] ugh [20:14] im trying to sneak in a post-login bash script that gets user input, putting it in /etc/profile is to early, no mouse/keyboard support [20:15] i think i need to add a script to casper-bottom or init-bottom, but not sure [20:15] and this input is needed prior to what point? [20:16] none, just need keyboard/mouse/network, essentially what im making is a live usb stick, stick in a box, it grabs dmesg cpuinfo etc, pushes it to a file share, then shuts down [20:17] jzarr why not put it into rc.local then? [20:17] maybe im mistaken, but i thought rc.local is run before /etc/profile and if thats too soon ... [20:18] i seem to be stuck in a nasty loop of apt/dpkg and update-initramfs/mkinitramfs that I cannot break out of, any known bugs in update-initramfs? [20:18] it's one of the last init scripts to run... I thought I'd gotten user input during it before... I could be wrong... [20:18] ill give it a try [20:19] which (meta-)package should I file a bug report against for differing/conflicting user/group accounts between default server and desktop installs? [20:19] if i do need to add to casper-bottom, is it as simple as creating a 99_script and dropping it in there? [20:19] yes [20:20] bye [20:20] I just copied one of the existing scripts in there as a baseline and used it [20:20] oh ok, i got a little confused by the prereq stuff, thought i had to declare something someplace else [20:21] it just uses the front numbers for ordering? [20:21] that's what it looks like from what I saw [20:21] cool, ill give rc.local a try, then that, thanks for the help [20:21] jzarr, any time [20:22] actually one more question while i got ya ;-) any trick to mounting the same usb stick used to boot? [20:22] can anyone help with what appears to be a bug in update-initramfs please? [20:24] i found a dirty hack/work around for installing anything else via apt, except a kernel, which actually needs to generate an initrd [20:26] jzarr, guessing you don't want to write into the persistence area? [20:27] i wasnt aware there was one, hows that work [20:27] one sec, let me get the page [20:27] thx [20:27] jzarr, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence [20:29] the persistence file is basically just a loop back file system afterwards... if you want to extract anything [20:30] ohh, i thought it was a mount shadowed to the usb stick, this needs to be noob friendly so they can grab logs of the stick [20:31] let me check one of my other sticks... I can't remember if I did that or just used the persistence [20:36] looks like I just used the persistence area once I worked out how to use it [20:37] ill try splitting the disk into partitions, maybe that will do it === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:38] which (meta-)package should I file a bug report against for differing/conflicting user/group accounts between default server and desktop installs? === ivoks is now known as ivoks_sleeping [21:25] can someone triage bug 392750? [21:25] Launchpad bug 392750 in ubuntu (and 1 other project) "packages.ubuntu.com needs translation (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392750 [21:46] devildante: done [21:47] charlie-tca: thx ;) [21:47] no problem [21:52] hm, is bug 622702 evince or glib? (I tend to glib) [21:52] Launchpad bug 622702 in ubuntu "[maverick regression] Evince crashes when repeatedly doing text selections (affects: 1) (heat: 3235)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622702 [21:54] yofel, assign it to evince for now [21:54] k [21:54] yofel, would be nice to get valgrind log of that crash [21:54] I tend to glib, but I'm no expert [21:54] it might tell us where the crash actually is [21:55] without it, we can only guess [21:55] ok, I'll request it [21:55] all the *alloc calls are coming from glib [21:55] so it doesn't say us much about it... [21:55] thank you yofel! [21:57] wth... [21:57] Reading symbols from /usr/bin/evince...warning: the debug information found in "/usr/lib/debug//usr/bin/evince" does not match "/usr/bin/evince" (CRC mismatch). [21:58] (trying to retrace the crash that I get) [22:03] reinstalling packages didn't help.. [22:07] ok, I love this, 'GLib-ERROR **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.25.14/glib/gmem.c:140: failed to allocate 37108517450112 bytes' but it DOESN'T crash when I run it in gdb :( [22:12] correction, it just doesn't crash every time I try to run it [22:13] does someone know the upstream bug tracker for compiz? [22:14] devildante: I'm pretty sure Launchpad does, if you try to upstream a bug [22:16] mrooney: no, it doesn't mention it [22:17] I've seen mentions of bugs.opencompositing.org in the net, but it just doesn't want to open :( [22:17] yeah those are the top two google results [22:17] but I see what you mean about it opening [23:22] micahg: can you check bug 533739 and confirm/deby it as a regression? [23:22] Launchpad bug 533739 in firefox (Ubuntu) "ubuntu package search searchengine missing from firefox (affects: 2) (heat: 23)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533739 [23:24] hggdh: I asked chrisccoulson about it, he didn't seem to think we need it, but since p.u.c was fixed, maybe we should? [23:25] yeah, i could never figure out why it was removed in the first place [23:25] but, IMO, the list of search engines is already long enough by default [23:25] i don't think we need to add another one [23:25] chrisccoulson: so, won't fix? [23:26] yeah, i think so. we can always revisit if lots of people scream for it [23:26] chrisccoulson: k, will do later, thanks [23:26] thanks [23:27] chrisccoulson, micahg: I will take out the regression-potential tag, then [23:27] hggdh: k [23:27] cool, thanks [23:27] and thank you :-) [23:27] micahg: I can also mark it wontfix, if you wish [23:28] chrisccoulson: what do you think of a separate package for them and have it as a suggests? [23:29] or it rather [23:29] micahg - a separate package would probably be better [23:29] chrisccoulson: k, separate source too? [23:29] i'm not sure we'd need to suggest it though. IIRC, there's already a package in the archive which adds some extra search engines [23:30] yeah, a separate source package [23:30] !info firefox-launchpad-plugin [23:30] micahg: firefox-launchpad-plugin (source: firefox-launchpad-plugin): Launchpad firefox integration. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4 (lucid), package size 6 kB, installed size 72 kB [23:30] yeah, that's probably the one ;) [23:30] chrisccoulson: so I'll make something similar to that then [23:30] cool, thanks [23:31] chrisccoulson: so, I think then it should be marked regression-lucid, but we're fixing it another way? [23:31] yeah, i'm not sure which tag to use. i hardly do any bug triage now ;) [23:31] hggdh: ^^ [23:35] chrisccoulson: I hope my response on that bug was not too far out of line. I did not really mean to bark at you. [23:42] charlie-tca, heh, that's ok ;)