[02:42] <Zarte> hi
[02:42] <Zarte> good evening
[03:21] <richbz> Hi All - I am getting a little frustrated trying to get my DV Cam working in ubuntu 10.04 with a -rt kernel.. can anybody help me
[03:56] <holstein> hey richbz
[03:56] <holstein> does it work with the generic kernel?
[03:56] <holstein> is it RT specific?
[03:57] <holstein> there is a newer kernel in this PPA
[03:57] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa
[03:58] <holstein> add that and sudo apt-get install linux-realtime
[04:36] <richbz> @holstein I was unable to get it to work in the generic kernel but after I went through all the steps in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation and made the rt kernel the default boot kernel it was recognized... problem is it doesn't actually capture.. it will control the cam but it will not capture from it... Thanks for any help you can provide.
[04:37] <holstein> hmmm
[04:37] <holstein> what are you trying to do?
[04:38] <holstein> have you tried VLC?
[04:38] <richbz> just capture off my dv cam which is firewire
[04:38]  * holstein not really a video guy
[04:38] <richbz> no
[04:38] <holstein> your in the video group?
[04:38] <richbz> yes
[04:38] <richbz> I'm going to try the vlc now
[04:38] <richbz> I already tried Kino and Kdenlive
[04:39] <holstein> also
[04:39] <holstein> i had to do something from
[04:39] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire
[04:39] <holstein> echo 'KERNEL=="raw1394", GROUP="video", MODE="0664"' |
[04:39] <holstein> sudo tee /etc/udev/rules.d/50-raw1394.rules
[04:39] <holstein> you should be able to test this by running whatever your trying to capture with as root
[04:40] <holstein> i would do that just to rule out a permissions error
[04:40] <richbz> should I put both lines in the terminal
[04:40] <richbz> echo and sudo
[04:40] <holstein> i did the whole thing in one commandd
[04:40] <holstein> you'll need to restart
[04:41] <holstein> OR
[04:41] <holstein> sudo restart udev
[04:41] <holstein> BUT
[04:41] <holstein> you can just run sudo VLC
[04:41] <holstein> or sudo whatever
[04:41] <holstein> and test that way
[04:41] <holstein> if it wont capture that way
[04:41] <holstein> then its not permissios
[04:41] <holstein> then its not permissions*
[04:43] <richbz> it echo'd back the first part  'KERNEL=="raw1394", GROUP="video", MODE="0664"'
[04:43] <holstein> thats sounds right :)
[04:44] <holstein> try sudo restart udev
[04:44] <holstein> and go for it
[04:44] <richbz> Ok I'll check now
[04:56] <richbz> It does the same thing ... I can control the dv cam but cannot capture
[04:57] <holstein> OK
[04:57] <holstein> so your not dealing with permissions then
[04:58] <holstein> hmmm
[04:58] <holstein> what are you using to capture?
[04:58] <holstein> software?
[04:58] <richbz> Kino
[04:58] <holstein> does VLC see it?
[04:58] <richbz> I don't see a firewire option in vlc
[04:58] <holstein> AH
[04:59] <holstein> hmmm
[04:59] <holstein> what is the device?
[05:00] <richbz> JVC MiniDV camcorder
[05:00] <richbz> >> Starting Capture
[05:00] <richbz> >> AV/C Enabled
[05:00] <richbz> >>> Using iec61883 capture
[05:00] <richbz> >>> iec61883Reader::StartThread on port 1
[05:01] <richbz> >>> AVC enabled
[05:01] <richbz> >> Constructing File Capture tracker
[05:01] <richbz> >>> AVC enabled
[05:01] <richbz> that is wht the terminal said as I was trying to use capture in kino
[05:02] <holstein> richbz: install dvgrab
[05:02] <holstein> and see if that sees it
[05:02] <holstein> and let me search around some more...
[05:03] <richbz> ok
[05:03] <holstein> its in the repos
[05:03] <richbz> dvgrab is already installed
[05:06] <holstein> JVC GRD-650US ??
[05:06] <holstein> richbz: does dvgrab see it?
[05:07] <richbz> holstein: yes
[05:08] <holstein> yes it sees it?
[05:08] <holstein> you get capture with it?
[05:09] <richbz> and it is a JVC but I don't remember the model number I think it has 250 in it
[05:09] <richbz> it is a small one
[05:09] <holstein> might just be a kino thing
[05:09] <holstein> older version or something
[05:09] <richbz> it sees it but it says its waiting for DV
[05:10] <holstein> richbz: and you pushed play on the camera?
[05:10] <richbz> yes it is playing now
[05:10] <holstein> and no joy?
[05:10] <holstein> hmmm
[05:10] <richbz> but it still says its waiting for DV...
[05:10] <holstein> shut it down
[05:10] <holstein> dvgrab
[05:10] <holstein> and restart it as sudo
[05:11] <holstein> sudo dvgrab
[05:11] <holstein> and try it again
[05:11] <richbz> thats how i did it before
[05:11] <richbz> what is the command to stop a program
[05:11] <holstein> sudo killall dvgrab ?
[05:11] <holstein> does that get it?
[05:12] <richbz> it says no process found
[05:12] <holstein> probably stopped then
[05:14] <richbz> when i do sudo dvgrab it automatically starts the dv cam playing but the terminal says waiting for DV...
[05:14] <holstein> damn
[05:14] <holstein> seems like its so close to working
[05:14] <holstein> richbz: try restarting the box
[05:15] <richbz> lol right that is exactly what i was thinking
[05:15] <holstein> and running dvgrav as normal user
[05:15] <holstein> and let me look some more...
[05:15] <richbz> you mean the whole cpu or just the terminal
[05:18] <holstein> i was thinking restart the box
[05:19] <holstein> incase those added files arent quite being read yet
[05:19] <holstein> but im really just taking a stab
[05:20] <richbz> at this point anything is worth a try to me .. thanks I'm going to restart now
[05:20] <holstein> richbz: i would try
[05:20] <holstein> irc.gnome.org #kino
[05:20] <holstein> and maybe the mailing list for kino
[05:20] <holstein> and/or
[05:21] <holstein> ubuntustudio
[05:21] <holstein> im just not familiar enough with video to be much help
[05:21]  * holstein is an audio guy
[05:21] <holstein> i know there are video folk in here sometimes
[05:22] <richbz> no prob.. I do have audio questions but I am trying to get my video in here and working first .. thanks for all your help
[05:22] <holstein> richbz: anytime
[08:29] <valkyr> disconnect
[15:58] <Alex__> this is ubuntu support?
[16:01] <Davidmp> Does wubi support ubuntu studio if i download the iso?
[16:21] <holstein> Davidmp: i think you can
[16:21] <holstein> but i really wouldnt suggest it
[16:22] <holstein> i would do a wubi install of the normal ubuntu
[16:22] <holstein> and add whatever software you want
[16:22] <holstein> from the ubuntustudio metapackages
[16:23] <holstein> i had that going on back at 8.10
[16:23] <Davidmp> wubi isnt even installing a distro
[16:23] <holstein> Davidmp: you mean its not working for you?
[16:23] <Davidmp> yep not at al
[16:23] <holstein> hmmm
[16:24] <holstein> maybe something to do with your windows version
[16:24] <Davidmp> vista 32bit
[16:24] <holstein> ive only tried it in XP
[16:24] <Davidmp> it used to work
[16:24] <holstein> and had good luck actually
[16:24] <Davidmp> -_-
[16:24] <holstein> hmmm
[16:24] <holstein> Davidmp: are you using the most current wubi?
[16:24] <holstein> or the one from the disc?
[16:24] <Davidmp> yes from wubi.com
[16:25] <holstein> i cant imaging those would be much different
[16:25] <Davidmp> ubuntu studio doesnt work on a disc
[16:25] <Davidmp> at least for me
[16:25] <holstein> Davidmp: ??
[16:25] <holstein> its not a live distro
[16:25] <holstein> there is only an installer
[16:25] <holstein> Davidmp: i would get the normal ubuntu disc
[16:25] <holstein> and try the included wubi
[16:26] <Davidmp> well guess im waiting 4 weeks
[16:26] <holstein> !vanilla
[16:26] <holstein> Davidmp: 4weeks?
[16:26] <Davidmp> yeah i requested a disc
[16:26] <holstein> you can download it
[16:27] <holstein> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[16:27] <Davidmp> mk
[16:28] <Davidmp> is using a flashdrive any different from a disc?
[16:28] <holstein> yup
[16:28] <Davidmp> i need to use a flashdrive
[16:28] <holstein> you mean
[16:28] <holstein> to install from?
[16:28] <holstein> or to?
[16:28] <Davidmp> to install to
[16:28] <holstein> AH
[16:28] <holstein> nah
[16:28] <holstein> it'll be similar
[16:28] <Davidmp> oh ok
[16:29] <Davidmp> too bad wubi isnt working.. dont really want to partition my disk
[16:29] <holstein> try that wubi
[16:29] <holstein> first
[16:29] <holstein> the one on the disc
[16:29] <Davidmp> mk
[16:29] <Davidmp> thank you ill be back if i have any problems