[10:14] <sense> good morning
[11:04] <klattimer> MacSlow: you might appreciate https://bugs.launchpad.net/notify-osd/+bug/353843
[11:04] <klattimer> :)
[11:04] <klattimer> simple fix
[11:05] <MacSlow> klattimer, I don't use "misbehaving" apps that use actions (or other non-recommended) notification features :)
[11:09] <MacSlow> klattimer, hm... where's the diff?
[11:09] <MacSlow> klattimer, ah... you've not merge-requested it yet... that's why.
[11:14] <klattimer> no, I will in a short while
[11:14] <klattimer> kenvandine: can you test this updated patch for gnome-power-manager https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-ubuntu/+bug/619816
[11:15] <klattimer> MacSlow: if everything went to plan it should show up here in a minute https://code.launchpad.net/~karl-qdh/notify-osd/dialog-no-default-button/+merge/33622
[11:15] <klattimer> oh... hangon, I might have not done something
[11:15] <klattimer> ...shit :/
[11:16] <klattimer> I didn't commit :/
[11:18] <klattimer> MacSlow: https://code.launchpad.net/~karl-qdh/notify-osd/dialog-no-default-button/+merge/33623
[11:18] <klattimer> that's better
[11:24] <MacSlow> klattimer, next time please link branches fixing bugs to the bug they actually are meant to fix.
[11:25] <MacSlow> klattimer, I also use the habit to name branches accordingly in addition to taht... e.g. notify-osd.fix-353843
[11:25] <MacSlow> klattimer, makes life a lot easier
[11:28] <MacSlow> klattimer, reviewed, approved and merged
[11:29] <klattimer> oh awesome :)
[11:30] <klattimer> sorry about missing the bug number from the title
[13:21] <davidbarth> Cimi: back
[13:40] <kenvandine> klattimer, sure
[13:49] <LaserJock> is didrocks on vacation or something?
[13:53] <kenvandine> klattimer, weird... i am sure this isn't a bug in your patch from yesterdya
[13:54] <kenvandine> but... if i click on gpm in the indicator, the menu i get says "drop all elevated privileges
[13:54] <kenvandine> "
[13:54] <kenvandine> sounds like an indicator-application bug
[13:57] <davidbarth> kenvandine: wassup?
[13:58] <kenvandine> davidbarth, hey
[13:58] <kenvandine> davidbarth, when i click on the power manager indicator, the menu i see says "drop all elevated privileges"
[13:59] <kenvandine> seems to be getting the menu for something else, like that policykit thing that shows up to tell you you entered admin priv
[13:59] <davidbarth> kenvandine: didn't see that
[14:00] <kenvandine> i didn't either 20m ago
[14:00] <davidbarth> klattimer: i've manually installed your package cause apt was confused with the identical version number
[14:00] <kenvandine> somehow it got confused
[14:00] <davidbarth> still, i haven't see that while testing the indicator
[14:00] <davidbarth> i'm getting a polkit dialog to allow the backlight helper ro run
[14:01] <davidbarth> but that was already the case with the stock maverick package
[14:02] <davidbarth> klattimer: but i guess i should test the one with the updated patch, that has strings closer to mpt's specs
[14:03] <davidbarth> klattimer: can you also add the icon for the battery to the menuitem as well?
[14:05] <mpt> ugh, we're still not using symbolic icons for the battery menu?
[14:05] <mpt> ghostly white icons are showing up in the "Power Statistics" window
[14:05] <davidbarth> mpt: symbolic icons was not backported to gtk2 this cycle
[14:06] <mpt> davidbarth, I thought we had a temporary "-panel" namespace we were using instead?
[14:07] <mpt> So the icon in the panel uses "somethingsomething-panel", while the icon in the Power Statistics window uses "somethingsomething"
[14:12] <kenvandine> davidbarth, this isn't with klattimer patch... it was with stock maverick
[14:20] <davidbarth> mpt: that we do
[14:20] <davidbarth> mpt: ie, the -panel namespace is used for indicators icons and their menus as well
[14:22] <klattimer> davidbarth: I think picking icons for the menu item may be a little difficult
[14:22] <mpt> davidbarth, ah, I guess gnome-power-manager hasn't been patched to use them, and therefore the panel-style icons have been applied to the non-"-panel" namespace so that g-p-m will notice them.
[14:22] <klattimer> as we need to know what kind of item it is, phone, mouse, keyboard, laptop
[14:24] <davidbarth> mpt: yeah
[14:24] <davidbarth> mpt: actually that's worse than that
[14:25] <davidbarth> no, not worse
[14:25] <davidbarth> the indicator and the menu icons first look for a panel version automatically, and we had provided symlinks in lucid to remap them to the proprper icons
[14:26] <klattimer> davidbarth: yeah, the namespace happens in the icon lookup
[14:26] <davidbarth> so in maverick, either it's the icon names that have changed (and lack the symlinks behind the scene), or the symlinks have been dropped for that part of the theme
[14:27] <klattimer> sounds like a likely cause of the icons being wrong
[14:28] <kenvandine> klattimer, better i think (gpm) that is... but now when discharging it just says "Laptop battery"
[14:28] <kenvandine> no time or %
[14:28] <klattimer> kenvandine: that should only be the case if you have more than 12 hours left?
[14:28] <kenvandine> when i first unplug i briefly see the estimating string
[14:29] <klattimer> is that possible on laptop battery
[14:29]  * kenvandine finds that unlikely :)
[14:29] <kenvandine> powertop says 6.3 hours
[14:29] <kenvandine> now 4.5 hours
[14:30] <kenvandine> when charging it looks right
[14:30] <klattimer> hmm
[14:30] <klattimer> weird
[14:31] <klattimer> I'm using 12*60 as my number here which is 12 hours in minutes
[14:31] <klattimer> so not sure what's going on
[14:36] <klattimer> kenvandine: I've updated the patch slightly
[14:36] <kenvandine> ok
[14:36] <klattimer> if you want to try that, it's attached to the bug report
[14:36] <kenvandine> will do
[14:36] <klattimer> I can't see that it'll improve things any more than was there last, but it is slightly neater and easer to read
[14:39] <kenvandine> klattimer, same
[14:39] <kenvandine> let me add a couple printfs int here
[14:39] <kenvandine> in there
[14:42] <Cimi> davidbarth: news from the 22px patch?
[14:42] <kenvandine> klattimer, time_to_empty_round 6900
[14:42] <kenvandine> GPM_UP_TEXT_MIN_TIME 120
[14:43] <kenvandine> klattimer, that is at line 250 in src/gpm-upower.c
[14:44] <kenvandine> klattimer, powertop is reporting 5.9h left
[14:45] <kenvandine> klattimer, 6900 is way more than 12*60
[14:49] <davidbarth> Cimi: right, could you refresh cody's patches and make that use a dedicated style property?
[14:49] <kenvandine> klattimer, look at         time_to_empty_round = egg_precision_round_down (time_to_empty, GPM_UP_TIME_PRECISION);
[14:49] <davidbarth> Cimi: then send some screenshots for otto to evaluate the result
[14:49] <kenvandine> i think that GPM_UP_TIME_PRECISION isn't what you are expecting
[14:50] <kenvandine> so time_to_empty_round isn't really number of minutes left... which seems weird
[14:50] <kenvandine> but GPM_UP_TIME_PRECISION is 5*60
[14:50] <kenvandine> so 5s i guess
[14:51] <klattimer> oh
[14:52] <Cimi> davidbarth: will do tomorrow
[14:52] <Cimi> I'm about starting writing a blogpost for the new themes
[14:52] <kenvandine> klattimer, so time_to_empty_round is growing
[14:52] <kenvandine> it is now 19200
[14:52] <Cimi> iainfarrell: pink
[14:52] <kenvandine> and i am discharging still
[14:52] <Cimi> *ping :P
[14:52] <kenvandine> hehe
[14:52] <klattimer> hmm
[14:52] <klattimer> oh dear
[14:52] <klattimer> :/
[14:52] <kenvandine> klattimer, now it went down to 8700
[14:53] <kenvandine> doesn't seem like a very stable number :)
[14:53] <kenvandine> and now 18300... geez
[14:53] <Cimi> or our ivanka magician too
[14:54] <kenvandine> klattimer, i guess look at gpm_get_timestring
[14:54] <kenvandine> to see how it converted time_to_empty_round to the string that is displayed
[14:54] <iainfarrell> cimi hi there
[14:54] <iainfarrell> what's up?
[14:54] <Cimi> oh cool
[14:54] <Cimi> since otto is busy with unity, radiance and other tasks
[14:55] <Cimi> we decided I could take care of writing a blog post with the updates to the latest themes
[14:55] <Cimi> and request for some feedback
[14:55] <iainfarrell> ahh cool
[14:55] <Cimi> I guess I need an account as a guest blogger or so
[14:55] <iainfarrell> that's great
[14:55] <iainfarrell> yeah you do
[14:56] <klattimer> kenvandine: I've added a new patch
[14:56] <klattimer> I guess it's in seconds not minutes so added another *60
[14:56] <klattimer> that should fix it
[14:56] <klattimer> 5.08 hours remaining sound reasonable to you?
[14:56] <Cimi> iainfarrell: so? :P
[14:57] <iainfarrell> I'm finding out if I can get the account sorted
[14:57] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:57] <iainfarrell> Cimi: if you write up the post
[14:57] <iainfarrell> I'll chase the accounr
[14:57] <iainfarrell> *account
[14:57] <iainfarrell> what's your LP ID?
[14:57] <kenvandine> klattimer, building now
[14:57] <klattimer> cool
[14:57] <klattimer> that should be it then
[14:57] <klattimer> can you can get that patch pushed out in a new package?
[14:58] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:00] <JanCBorchardt> mpt: thanks for the great comment on the Software Center sky color bug report, made my day ;)
[15:00] <davidbarth> Cimi: btw, kenvandine mentionned you had the same issue as i have with the entry only displaying one character at a time?
[15:00] <mpt> :-)
[15:00] <davidbarth> Cimi: do you think that can be a theme issue?
[15:01] <Cimi> it isn't
[15:01] <kenvandine> klattimer, working pretty well, but comparing the strings to the wiki page
[15:01] <Cimi> because if you write a word and send it
[15:01] <Cimi> it sends only the last chat
[15:02] <Cimi> so it's not like having a transparent text :)
[15:02] <kenvandine> klattimer, the wiki page says "X H:MM left”
[15:02] <klattimer> yeah?
[15:02] <kenvandine> but i get "X H and MM left"
[15:02] <klattimer> what are you getting?
[15:02] <klattimer> oh :/
[15:02] <kenvandine> but i get "X H hours and MM minutes left"
[15:02] <klattimer> shit, then there's a problem with the string output
[15:02] <kenvandine> but the behavior is right :)
[15:02] <klattimer> grr
[15:02] <kenvandine> oh...
[15:02] <klattimer> ok, I'll add a fix for that
[15:02] <kenvandine> cool
[15:03] <kenvandine> getting there :)
[15:03] <kenvandine> Cimi, any fixes for the theme for the text in that entry?
[15:03] <kenvandine> as in visibility... it is pretty hard to see atm
[15:05] <Cimi> kenvandine: it's already fixed it locally
[15:05] <Cimi> we will push a new version soon
[15:05] <Cimi> maybe tomorrow
[15:05] <kenvandine> with ambiance-maverick-beta
[15:05] <Cimi> locally is my pc :P
[15:05] <kenvandine> ok, cool
[15:11] <klattimer> kenvandine: added a new patch which should fix the strings
[15:11] <kenvandine> klattimer, ok, will test in a bit
[15:11] <kenvandine> thx
[15:11]  * klattimer can't believe the battery applet's upstream code actually says in many cases "Laptop battery 2 hours 14 minutes until charged\nProvides 1 hour and 12 minutes battery runtime
[15:11] <klattimer> ?!?!?!?!
[15:11] <klattimer> who thought that was a good summary
[15:11] <klattimer> ?
[15:12] <klattimer> for a menu?
[15:12] <kenvandine> hehe
[15:20] <kenvandine> Cimi, when you push the new theme changes, make sure you rename them to match the default names... so move ambiance-maverick-beta to Ambiance in the bzr tree
[15:20] <kenvandine> and drop the old stuff
[15:20] <davidbarth> klattimer: isn't that shared with a notification string instead?
[15:26] <klattimer> davidbarth: grr, I hope not, lemme look
[15:27] <tedg> doctormo, The Inkscape website is still in SVN.
[15:27] <tedg> doctormo, They keep saying it is going to be migrated to a DB, so I didn't migrate it to Bazaar, but that's looking like a worse and worse idea.
[15:27] <klattimer> it's used in the tooltip
[15:27] <klattimer> but I think that's OK right?
[15:28] <klattimer> better to be the same than different
[15:28] <tedg> doctormo, I realize this should be in #inkscape, but apparently I don't have voice there :-/
[15:34] <kenvandine> klattimer, very slight thing... the wiki says H:MM but it is now HH:MM
[15:36] <kenvandine> klattimer, also there is a brief point in the transition from charging -> discharging and discharging -> charging where it says "X charged" before it says "X (estimating)"
[15:36] <kenvandine> i assume that is because the value of time_to_empty_round is getting set to some crazy number which is over 12h
[15:42] <klattimer> oh, yeah, I added the wrong format string duh
[15:42] <klattimer> kenvandine: can you check the notifications to see if they have a sensible looking string
[15:43] <kenvandine> they seem unchanged
[15:43] <klattimer> cool
[15:43] <kenvandine> the notification still includes the %
[15:43] <klattimer> right, well the brief change I don't think I can do anything about
[15:43] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:43] <kenvandine> i figured
[15:44] <klattimer> kenvandine: ok, so if we're not going to have HH:MM then should i have "X minutes" when there's less than an hour
[15:44] <klattimer> mpt: same question to you ^^
[15:45] <kenvandine> i assume
[15:45] <kenvandine> let mpt answer that though :)
[15:45] <klattimer> yeah
[15:47] <klattimer> once we've got a definite from mpt i'll cook up one last patch and that'll probably be it
[15:48] <mpt> klattimer, I'd rather just have H:MM consistently
[15:48] <klattimer> so 0:MM would be preferred for < 60 minutes
[15:49] <ronoc> Cimi: can you point me towards the branch you had for the rounded corners on the album art
[15:50] <klattimer> kenvandine: the patch is uploaded to the bug
[15:55] <JanCBorchardt> mpt, about the consistency thing at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/618723
[15:56] <Cimi> ronoc: https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/indicator-sound/rounded-albumart
[15:56] <ronoc> Cimi: thx
[15:56] <JanCBorchardt> mpt: I disagree because most users rarely access the system settings for updating. They just get the pop-up without context-
[15:57] <klattimer> kenvandine: I accidentally didn't save the file before diffing :/ so I've uploaded another new patch which does the right thing
[15:57] <kenvandine> ok
[15:57] <mpt> JanCBorchardt, in that case I've specified that the title should be "Updates Available", so the name doesn't show up anyway.
[15:59] <JanCBorchardt> mpt, ok, cool
[16:07] <kenvandine> klattimer, much better :)
[16:13] <kenvandine> klattimer, uploaded
[16:13] <kenvandine> thx
[16:34] <klattimer> tedg: is there a bug number for the group menu item bug?
[16:34] <klattimer> I'd like to mark something as a duplicate of it
[16:40] <tedg> klattimer, I'm not sure I know which bug you're talking about.
[16:46] <davidbarth> Cimi, chaotic: btw, can you confirm that the notebook style is off the list now?
[16:47] <chaotic> ?
[16:47] <davidbarth> it's still listed for tomorrow, but i don't think it sounds possible anymore: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-ubuntu/+bug/611694
[16:47] <davidbarth> chaotic: an old work item that was on cimi's list, more tentative
[16:48] <davidbarth> dropping it from the list
[16:49] <davidbarth> Cimi: same for argb, too bad but that's all too late
[16:50] <chaotic> davidbarth: fine by me, we have made improvements anyway
[16:52] <Cimi> davidbarth: argb is useless without cody's patch
[16:53] <ronoc> Cimi, have you recoloured the button s in one of your branches
[16:53] <ronoc> ?
[16:53] <ronoc> recoloured the background that is ?
[17:00] <Cimi> ronoc: ?
[17:00] <Cimi> what do you mean?
[17:01] <ronoc> Cimi, you worked on the colours last week yes of the buttons so as they can be changed with theme change
[17:01] <ronoc> no ?
[17:01] <ronoc> which branch is this ?
[17:03] <Cimi> no
[17:03] <ronoc> Cimi, you did work on two branches last week though yeah ?
[17:09] <Cimi> ronoc:
[17:09] <Cimi> yes
[17:09] <Cimi> but one lacks of the custom gtk-widget name
[17:09] <ronoc> Cimi: can you post the branch url please ?
[17:10] <Cimi> https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/indicator-sound/use-gtk-colors
[17:10] <ronoc> Cimi: thx
[17:11] <Cimi> sorry for being a little bit off today from the chat... I've a headache and I'm feeling really bad
[17:11] <ronoc> Cimi:  no worries, me too - running a fever topping up on lemsips at the mo :/
[17:12] <ronoc> Cimi: so do we need to come up with a name for the transport bar
[17:12] <ronoc> "ido-transport-bar"
[17:12] <ronoc> although its not an ido
[17:12] <ronoc> so "ayatana-transport-bar"
[17:13] <ronoc> Cimi: ^
[17:17] <Cimi> maybe
[17:17] <Cimi> transport bar is?
[17:18] <ronoc> Cimi: just name check everytime you answer, otherwise I might be watching my irc
[17:19] <ronoc> Cimi: transport bar is the play button, previous and next button on the currently grey/white background
[17:19] <ronoc> Cimi, sorry first msg was missing the operative *not
[17:21] <Cimi> ronoc: ok
[17:21] <Cimi> ronoc: chose the name you prefer
[17:21] <Cimi> ronoc: same thing for the scrubber please
[17:22] <ronoc> Cimi: "ayatana-transport-bar"
[17:22] <ronoc> Cimi: does this follow the same pattern as the other gtk widget names ?
[17:23] <Cimi> I don't know
[17:23] <Cimi> I mean
[17:23] <Cimi> usually for custon names yes
[17:23] <ronoc> Cimi: i.e. do you know what other gtk -widget names look like?
[17:23] <ronoc> or does it make a difference ?
[17:23] <Cimi> let me see
[17:23] <Cimi> not, just for logic porpouses
[17:24] <Cimi> mmm
[17:24] <Cimi> yeah could be ok
[17:26] <ronoc> Cimi: okay grand
[17:26] <ronoc> lets use that then
[17:27] <Cimi> for scrubber?
[17:27] <Cimi> ido-scrubber?
[17:30] <ronoc> Cimi: ido-scrub-bar
[17:31] <ronoc> I reckon
[17:33] <Cimi> ok
[17:56] <ronoc> Cimi back sorry
[17:56] <Cimi> nw
[18:32] <vlada> tedg, ping
[18:47] <tedg> vlada, Howdy
[18:47] <vlada> hi tedg
[18:47] <vlada> tedg, I was sent here by #ubuntu-devel guys
[18:48] <tedg> Uh, oh, never trust the ubuntu-devel guys ;)
[18:48] <vlada> looks like I have to complaint to you about this bug (which is mine, BTW)
[18:48] <vlada> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/621838
[18:48] <vlada> tedg, I trust inkscape guys ;)
[18:50] <tedg> vlada, Yeah, I think that one is fixed.  It just won't be released until tomorrow -- we release on Thursdays.
[18:50] <tedg> vlada, It was using the wrong index to update the icons/labels on new items.
[18:50] <vlada> wow! great!
[18:51] <vlada> and, did you change keyboard icon (graphic)? Current one is too fuzzy.
[18:52] <tedg> vlada, I'm not in charge there, that'd be the design guys who do the icons.  chaotic might have a comment there.
[18:54] <vlada> tedg, do you have hired professional for icon design or you are using community provided icons?
[18:55] <tedg> vlada, both, we have professionals charged with it but they take community contributions as well.
[18:56] <vlada> canonnical is strangly organized indeed :) At least when looked at from outside ;)
[18:57] <vlada> tedg, BTW and OT: will inkscape 0.48 manage to get into 10.10?
[18:58] <tedg> vlada, I believe so, but I haven't been following that.  Scisalac and kees I believe were looking at it.
[20:31] <ronoc> Cimi: rounded rectangles are in -> lp:~cjcurran/indicator-sound/fix-rounded-corners-on-album-art
[21:29] <MDC1> from #nautilus: (20.04.10) cosimoc: so, this is how nautilus master looks like now -> http://people.gnome.org/~cosimoc/new-sidebar.png
[21:29] <MDC1> :D
[21:29] <MDC1> vish: ^
[21:33] <vish> MDC1: sidebar!!!!!!!
[21:33] <MDC1> oh yes :)
[21:33] <vish> MDC1: hehe , for a few sec i was wondering what i was looking for :D
[21:33] <hyperair> ooh nice.
[21:34] <MDC1> aday: in case you've missed it: http://people.gnome.org/~cosimoc/new-sidebar.png
[21:34] <aday> MDC1: just saw the commit
[21:37] <MDC1> night now
[21:47] <Cimi> ronoc: cool
[22:45] <Caer> Hi everyone
[22:45] <Caer> I would like to report a subset of this bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44002
[22:47] <Caer> It bothers me that, because of the loading of icons in gnome's main menu, sub-menus are resized the first time they are displayed
[22:48] <Caer> so there is a kind of flicker when gnome finally decides which width the icon column should be ; this could be avoided because all icons are the same size in the default config
[22:49] <Caer> does that qualify as a papercut? And should I create a new bug referencing this one? (I will be reading your anwsers tomorrow)