| Riddell | apachelogger: voila ^^ | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| rbelem | hey Riddell, i just filed a bug to update the kubuntu-mobile seed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/623662 | 00:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 623662 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "kubuntu-mobile seed needs to be updated" [Undecided,New] | 00:09 |
| rbelem | :-) | 00:09 |
| rbelem | Riddell, and I think that http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings is ok :-) | 00:10 |
| Riddell | rbelem: great, will get to that tomorrow | 00:12 |
| rbelem | Riddell, I think that i do not need to submit a patch, it just needed to replace kubuntu-netbook-default-settings by kubuntu-mobile-default-settings :-) | 00:14 |
| rbelem | Riddell, thanks :-) | 00:15 |
| === jjesse is now known as jjesse-netbook | ||
| === em is now known as emma | ||
| apachelogger | good morning kubuntu | 05:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ping | 05:54 |
| === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero | ||
| * apachelogger loves how in rekonq you cannot load a blank page | 06:26 | |
| apachelogger | and now my default favorites are all messed up :O | 06:27 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, ping | 06:55 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: pong | 06:56 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: can you please create a bzr branch for the default settings? ;) | 06:56 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, wow you still awake. what is your timezone? | 06:56 |
| rbelem | :-D | 06:56 |
| apachelogger | UTC+2 | 06:56 |
| apachelogger | I am awake again ;) | 06:56 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, yep | 06:56 |
| rbelem | eheheh | 06:57 |
| apachelogger | 8am here | 06:57 |
| rbelem | :-D | 06:57 |
| rbelem | it is 01:57 here | 06:57 |
| rbelem | am | 06:57 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 06:57 |
| rbelem | i'm at -0400 | 06:58 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: rekonqs code style is not very attracting | 06:59 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, i updated the startkde patch | 06:59 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, http://paste.ubuntu.com/483273/ | 07:00 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, should i file a new bug for it? | 07:00 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: did the old one get uploaded already? | 07:00 |
| rbelem | hum... i do not remember | 07:01 |
| apachelogger | yeah, it is in the branch | 07:02 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: do you need it for the beta? | 07:02 |
| rbelem | yep :-) | 07:02 |
| apachelogger | ok | 07:02 |
| apachelogger | uploading then | 07:02 |
| rbelem | cool! thanks a lot apachelogger :-D | 07:03 |
| apachelogger | hm | 07:05 |
| * apachelogger bzr blames Riddell for commenting out 07_kdmrc_defaults_kubuntu.diff | 07:05 | |
| apachelogger | that patch does more than change a string | 07:06 |
| * apachelogger is going to remove the string change and turns the patch back on | 07:06 | |
| apachelogger | rbelem: did you intentionally go from elif [ -e /usr/share/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings/share/autostart/plasma-mobile.desktop ]; then | 07:15 |
| apachelogger | to a standalone if? | 07:15 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, yep | 07:16 |
| apachelogger | oki | 07:17 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, that's why if we install plasma-netbook packages it will no longer able to use plasma-mobile | 07:17 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 07:18 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: for mav+1 we should trim the kds path | 07:18 |
| apachelogger | /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/ | 07:18 |
| apachelogger | that kde4-profile/default stuff is completely pointless and ugly | 07:18 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: with that change kmds should depend or recommend kds (BTW) | 07:22 |
| CIA-71 | [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100825063731-t8s0x918oqkcdz5l * debian/ (README.source changelog control ubuntu-sso-qt.install) prepare for archive | 07:37 |
| CIA-71 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100825064812-v94qdjynxbqqpfr0 * debian/ (changelog control) prepare for archive | 07:48 |
| apachelogger | jjesse-netbook: are you also getting logged out of facebook all the time with rekonq? | 07:52 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, is it ok to leave kds on recommends? | 07:53 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: yes | 07:54 |
| apachelogger | probably more appropriate anyway | 07:54 |
| rbelem | cool :-) | 07:54 |
| MLxO | sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but are recent (22-24/8) dailies supposed to fullly install? I tried and the GUI reported success, but looking at the result there was no initrd image, grub wasn't installed and the main user wasn't created (this was a user-customized partitioning install) | 07:58 |
| CIA-71 | [kdebase-workspace] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100825071228-3x296ormy48i3n3a * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed) | 08:12 |
| CIA-71 | * Remove string changes from 07_kdmrc_defaults_kubuntu.diff and reactivate the | 08:12 |
| CIA-71 | patch because it does other important things besides changing i18ns * Update | 08:12 |
| apachelogger | agateau: hey, can you do something about bug 541920 | 08:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 541920 in amarok (Ubuntu) "No icon for Amarok in indicator-applet" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541920 | 08:21 |
| * agateau clicks | 08:22 | |
| apachelogger | ehm | 08:23 |
| apachelogger | oh | 08:23 |
| apachelogger | rbelem just broke the defaults -.- | 08:23 |
| agateau | apachelogger: afaik it's fixed for me. what do you want me to do? | 08:26 |
| valorie | in Ubuntu it's fixed? | 08:26 |
| apachelogger | agateau: close the bug or something ^^ | 08:28 |
| agateau | valorie: if we are still carrying the ugly GNOME_SESSION fix, it is | 08:28 |
| agateau | err DESKTOP_SESSION | 08:28 |
| valorie | hmmm, 9 hours ago a reporter is saying it isn't fixed | 08:29 |
| alvin | Will qt4-x11 from maverick be backported to ppa:kubuntu-backports? (bug 614699) | 08:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 614699 in Kubuntu PPA "Qt 4.7.0 breaks QX11EmbedWidget" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614699 | 08:33 |
| agateau | valorie: let me check if we still carry the patch, then | 08:54 |
| agateau | valorie: we do | 08:55 |
| valorie | so we should just tell ubuntuneros to update? | 08:56 |
| valorie | wow, ubuntu users | 08:56 |
| valorie | geez | 08:56 |
| CIA-71 | [ktouch] sitter * 1167743 * trunk/KDE/kdeedu/ktouch/training/dvorak.ktouch.xml Change 'cunts' into 'cheap' so that edubuntu people can sleep well again. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu/+bug/622592 | 08:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622592 in kdeedu (Ubuntu) "KTouch lecture contains a swear word" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:59 |
| valorie | oh, my | 09:00 |
| CIA-71 | [ktouch] sitter * 1167744 * trunk/KDE/kdeedu/ktouch/training/dvorak.ktouch.xml oh, another change slipped in - revert :) | 09:02 |
| agateau | valorie: let me switch to gnome to be 100% sure it is fixed | 09:02 |
| CIA-71 | [ktouch] sitter * 1167745 * branches/KDE/4.5/kdeedu/ktouch/training/dvorak.ktouch.xml backport r1167743/r1167744 Change 'cunts' into 'cheap' so that edubuntu people can sleep well again. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu/+bug/622592 | 09:03 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/622592) | 09:03 |
| agateau | valorie: back from gnomy land | 09:06 |
| agateau | valorie: it's definitely fixed | 09:06 |
| valorie | oh very cool | 09:06 |
| valorie | in lucid, or will they have to wait for 10.10? | 09:07 |
| agateau | valorie: I just tested in Maverick, but the fix was in Lucid, assuming it was not dropped | 09:10 |
| valorie | super! | 09:10 |
| agateau | valorie: my Lucid machine is being painful these days so I can't test right now | 09:10 |
| * valorie is about to make the jump to Mav | 09:11 | |
| valorie | on Sat. - global jam | 09:11 |
| valorie | if I can backup my /home by then | 09:11 |
| apachelogger | agateau: thanks for looking into this *hug* | 09:14 |
| agateau | apachelogger: no pb | 09:15 |
| valorie | apachelogger: thanks for raising the issue | 09:15 |
| valorie | no gnomies have stopped in to report it's been fixed | 09:15 |
| valorie | so I didn't know | 09:16 |
| valorie | ungrateful little varmints | 09:16 |
| apachelogger | lol | 09:21 |
| valorie | reformatting the hateful new drive | 09:22 |
| valorie | I hope I did it right | 09:22 |
| * apachelogger creates a plasmoid so he knows how much longer he must excited about getting a new laptop | 09:25 | |
| valorie | ups tracker plasmoid? | 09:25 |
| apachelogger | no, a countdown plasmoid | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | valorie: for all them silly tracker APIs you need to sign up for some special subscription program thingy | 09:26 |
| valorie | ah | 09:26 |
| valorie | I just use their site | 09:27 |
| * apachelogger already wanted to create a tracker for fedex due to gsoc, but ... | 09:27 | |
| valorie | so last millenium.... | 09:27 |
| apachelogger | yep | 09:27 |
| valorie | you are young | 09:27 |
| apachelogger | plasmoids are the future | 09:27 |
| valorie | I'm old | 09:27 |
| valorie | lol | 09:27 |
| apachelogger | unlike rekonq which eats my keyboard input | 09:27 |
| * valorie gave up on rekonq earlier | 09:28 | |
| valorie | it crashed on me twice | 09:28 |
| valorie | so, back to konq for awhile | 09:28 |
| * apachelogger really does not get while some say it works perfect and others have nothing but trouble | 09:28 | |
| apachelogger | s/while/why | 09:28 |
| * apachelogger is scared of opening kontact since he upgraded to 4.5b2 ^^ | 09:29 | |
| valorie | heck, I don't even use kmail right now | 09:29 |
| apachelogger | that is also scary | 09:30 |
| valorie | hopefully my son will get our mail server configured again, and then I'll do it | 09:30 |
| valorie | yes, so I've heard | 09:30 |
| valorie | which is why I'm not bugging him | 09:30 |
| valorie | gmail will work for now | 09:30 |
| persia | apachelogger, If you're happier with k-m-d-s before the most recent upload, just push the older revision (I advocated it, aside from my comments). | 09:40 |
| apachelogger | persia: ok | 09:43 |
| persia | debian/copyright ought get fixed (preamble addition), but that's fairly minor. | 09:43 |
| persia | http://paste.ubuntu.com/483282/ is what I suggested to rbelem, but it might get in without the change | 09:44 |
| persia | Sorry for the confusion. I think I don't like the kiosk override architecture, but I now understand it. | 09:44 |
| valorie | dang, the hd finally finished formatting | 09:53 |
| valorie | is Kparted a good choice to partition it? | 09:53 |
| apachelogger | valorie: partitionmanager | 09:55 |
| apachelogger | !info partitionmanager | 09:55 |
| ubottu | partitionmanager (source: partitionmanager): A partition management utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1ubuntu3 (lucid), package size 423 kB, installed size 2836 kB | 09:55 |
| valorie | I'll take your advice, thanks! | 09:56 |
| valorie | it does look like the best of the bunch | 09:58 |
| Riddell | ooh rekonq and flash are lovelyness after the QX11Embed update | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | valorie: when is visualization arriving in amarok2? | 10:14 |
| Riddell | thanks for fixing kdebase-workspace apachelogger | 10:14 |
| apachelogger | no problem | 10:14 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do we need a FFe for kmds? | 10:15 |
| valorie | apachelogger: when phonon fully supports them | 10:15 |
| valorie | our gsoc student has them working now | 10:15 |
| valorie | but they crash at the end of the song | 10:15 |
| valorie | I was discussing bribing j-b to do the necessary work | 10:16 |
| valorie | with a nice bottle of french liqueur | 10:16 |
| valorie | but I never collared him | 10:16 |
| apachelogger | valorie: is it commited somwhere? | 10:16 |
| valorie | uh | 10:17 |
| valorie | I'm sure it is | 10:17 |
| valorie | let me see if I can find a link in -devel ml | 10:17 |
| apachelogger | valorie: also do you have junior jobs over at amarok? | 10:20 |
| valorie | yes | 10:20 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I believe so, if you file it I can approve it | 10:20 |
| valorie | how many, I don't know | 10:20 |
| valorie | but yes | 10:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: bug 623870 | 10:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 623870 in Ubuntu "FFe for kubuntu-mobile-default-settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/623870 | 10:23 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: approved! | 10:24 |
| apachelogger | cheers | 10:24 |
| apachelogger | ohm | 10:27 |
| apachelogger | still not translatable | 10:27 |
| apachelogger | meh | 10:27 |
| * apachelogger fixes that | 10:27 | |
| apachelogger | or is it now | 10:28 |
| * apachelogger pokes | 10:28 | |
| apachelogger | ah should be | 10:29 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: is now a good time to take that kpackagekit snapshot? | 10:29 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: kmds uploaded | 10:29 |
| Riddell | accepted! | 10:34 |
| apachelogger | thanks | 10:34 |
| Riddell | remind me in a bit about the binary | 10:34 |
| Riddell | and the seed change | 10:34 |
| Riddell | now, anyone know why I'm not getting upgrade notifications from kubuntu-notification-helper | 10:35 |
| valorie | riddell, in lucid or mav? | 10:40 |
| valorie | I'm getting them very intermittently in lucid | 10:40 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: knh should not give upgrade notifications? | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | kpk's smarticon thingy should do that | 10:41 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: that would explain it then | 10:43 |
| sheytan | Hey guys, how do you like this one: http://a.imageshack.us/img824/4237/techspecs2.jpg ? :D | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: how would that list be maintained? | 11:02 |
| sheytan | apachelogger https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/ :) | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | that is not very up-to-date and ubuntu | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu does not necessarily work on the same hardware as ubuntu | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | especially not when it comes to graphics | 11:06 |
| sheytan | anyway it's ok to have such list for users ;) | 11:07 |
| sheytan | and that differences might only be because of KDE effects, right? | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | yes | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | well | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | I am just saying | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | mind that maintenance effort do not exceed use | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: looks hot though | 11:09 |
| sheytan | yep, thank you :) | 11:10 |
| * apachelogger is wondering what to cook today | 11:11 | |
| jussi | apachelogger: stirfry. | 11:12 |
| jussi | pancakes! | 11:13 |
| Riddell | reindeer! | 11:15 |
| nigelb | ok, wow http://web.archive.org/web/20080504160816/behindubuntu.org/interviews/JonathanRiddell/ | 11:23 |
| Nightrose | valorie: if you need bribing j-b i can do that in mountain view in person ;-) | 11:35 |
| sladen | no blizzz | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | we are fresh out of blizzz | 12:05 |
| JontheEchidna | Aha! That's why kde4libs was wanting to be compiled with utempter: * Fix install files in kdebase-workspace-bin now kwrited is a kded | 12:07 |
| JontheEchidna | Sorry for breaking -workspace. How was I to know? :P | 12:07 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: don't worry, I broke it in different ways :) | 12:08 |
| JontheEchidna | ;-) | 12:08 |
| * apachelogger reminds everyone that without failure every once in a while one easily gets accused of cheating :P | 12:08 | |
| apachelogger | hm | 12:09 |
| apachelogger | is our kdepim beta built against a different Qt version? | 12:10 |
| * apachelogger gets different themeing for some reason | 12:10 | |
| apachelogger | hm | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | akonadi && nepomuk && dbus pretty much overload my system | 12:12 |
| JontheEchidna | nu kdepim made dbus use 98 MB of RAMz last I tried it :( | 12:12 |
| JontheEchidna | no kmail2 for me | 12:12 |
| apachelogger | :O | 12:13 |
| apachelogger | that must have been a dbus memleak | 12:13 |
| apachelogger | unless a super large mail got passed to nepomuk | 12:13 |
| apachelogger | which is also entirely possible | 12:13 |
| * jussi note Riddell liked the reindeer while in Finland... | 12:16 | |
| JontheEchidna | bbiab | 12:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: 3 out of 4 default favorites in rekonq are not useful in localized enviornments | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | especially kubuntu forums disturbs me there | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | since it is not official and not useful to 90% of earths population | 12:34 |
| Riddell | sadly not easy to localise I think | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | well, I think we should drop kubuntu forums | 12:35 |
| Riddell | surely kubuntu forums are useful to a fair proportion of kubuntu users though? | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: if they know how to, and if they want to request support in english | 12:36 |
| Riddell | most people know how to use forums | 12:37 |
| apachelogger | with kubuntu.org and kde.org you at least have options to switch to localized versions if you manage to navigate | 12:37 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: in english | 12:37 |
| apachelogger | english english english | 12:37 |
| apachelogger | last time I used it was even asking me silly questions someone from asia might not even be able to answer because they were completely USish | 12:37 |
| apachelogger | further more it does not implement new kubuntu branding which hurts the CI | 12:38 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: talk to claydoh about that, he maintains the forum | 12:38 |
| Mamarok | claydoh: ^ | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | I told him | 12:39 |
| Riddell | seems better than nothing | 12:39 |
| Riddell | it has never had decent artwork that site | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu.org has a nice get help section | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | if the user knows enough english to walk through that he will be able to get localized support | 12:40 |
| steveire | Just fyi, akonadi doesn't pass mails around over dbus, so that wouldn't cause the high ram usage | 12:40 |
| apachelogger | steveire: then the library the mail feeder uses uses dbus | 12:40 |
| apachelogger | something is clearly eating away on dbus | 12:40 |
| steveire | Right, dbus is used, but not for transferring mails | 12:41 |
| steveire | A local socket is used for tha actual transfer | 12:41 |
| apachelogger | so what is dbus used for? | 12:41 |
| steveire | Notifications. Things like 'A new email has just arrived in the inbox' or 'the contact in the addressbook foo was just changed' | 12:42 |
| steveire | That triggers the applications to get the new item. Or if the notification is 'email foo was deleted' the thing is just removed from the ui | 12:42 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: if you absolutely want a forum there, then let us at least use forum.kde.org | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | for it does not look like it got stuck in the 1990's and lists a quite a few localized forums | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | steveire: ah, I see | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | so I suppose what jontheechidna was getting was indeed a dbus memleak | 12:44 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: that seems like a nice idea | 12:45 |
| apachelogger | ok | 12:45 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: lets change the order then ... google - kubuntu - userbase - forum | 12:46 |
| steveire | Yes, it could be that. | 12:46 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: KDE is ok with us having forum.kde.org in rekonq's default list of favorites? | 12:46 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ok | 12:47 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: i can't see why not | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | oki | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: is that a patch? | 12:47 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yes kubuntu_05_default_homepages.diff | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | ok, thanks | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: pingy | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: why are we not setting that via kds? | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | seems it supports setting it via rekonqrc | 12:53 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: if that can be done then go ahead | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopsx1746 | 12:57 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: groovy | 13:02 |
| sheytan | apachelogger do you develop rekonq? | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | no | 13:17 |
| sheytan | do you know who? | 13:17 |
| apachelogger | I very much think that the lead author would not like me :P | 13:17 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: #reknq | 13:17 |
| apachelogger | #rekonq | 13:17 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: new kds copyright -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/483405/ did I forget someone? | 13:20 |
| * apachelogger notes that bzr log is horrible | 13:20 | |
| * nigelb notes that bzr gui is nicer | 13:21 | |
| apachelogger | last I checked it was all rather... not-integrated | 13:22 |
| nigelb | I only use it for one thing, backporting patches | 13:23 |
| nigelb | Its helps figure out nicely which files where changed in a commit | 13:23 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: seems about right | 13:23 |
| apachelogger | ok, uploading then | 13:24 |
| CIA-71 | [kubuntu-default-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100825122627-90is7d2acvvzsixr * (6 files in 3 dirs) (log message trimmed) | 13:26 |
| CIA-71 | * Add rekonqrc to set default favorites (replaces patch in rekonq) * Bump | 13:26 |
| CIA-71 | standards to 3.9.1 * Long due copyright update * Build-depend on pkg-kde-tools | 13:26 |
| debfx | qtcreator 2.0.1 released :) | 13:29 |
| * debfx starts packaging | 13:29 | |
| Riddell | ofirk: going to come to the summit? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/ | 13:31 |
| CIA-71 | [sysadmin] jmthomas * 1167829 * trunk/ (extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/ kdereview/libqapt/) Move to extragear/sysadmin | 13:31 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: congratulations ^^ | 13:31 |
| JontheEchidna | :) | 13:31 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: btw, where does one configure CIA-71 again? | 13:32 |
| * JontheEchidna seems to have lost the urly and cannot find it again | 13:32 | |
| apachelogger | cia.vc | 13:32 |
| JontheEchidna | I knew that much :P | 13:33 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, wasn't logged in, even though it said "your account" | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: well yes, there you get to your account once you are logged in, obviously ;) | 13:55 |
| * apachelogger finds that silly naming | 13:55 | |
| * apachelogger hates how rekonq crashes with flash -.- | 14:22 | |
| dantti_work | Riddell: yes, now is a good time for that, yesterday I finish all things I'd like to fix in it and asked translators to do their magic | 14:23 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: btw the patches that you applied in kcm settings will probably break | 14:24 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: pong | 14:24 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: imo it'd be better to only hid the update section, we could work on something for it don't be so empty... | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: why did you only deactivate the patches in rekonq? | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | I recon apt stuff is surely available upstream and the other stuff also seems dated | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: forwarded upstream | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | you mean remove them? | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | yes | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | you only commented them out in debian/patches/series | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I would have to creat a new patch with whatever ubuntu-sso-client does now and for that to get accepted I would have to sign the canonical contributor agreement thingy, which is something I am not particularly willing to do | 14:30 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: you're not talking about rekonq now are you? | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | ah | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ubuntuone :) | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | sry | 14:32 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: why does it need a new patch? | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | they reinvented the auth thing pretty much | 14:33 |
| Riddell | again? | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | yes | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | I did not look into it yet | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | supposedly I could also enhance my Qt implementation to support the dbus interface enhancements (if any) | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | last I heared the syncdaemon does not require a patch anymore | 14:34 |
| Riddell | why don't you want to sign the contributor agreement? | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I did not really find it reasonable (last I read it), neversfelde was not too keen on it either | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SingleSignOn/UbuntuSsoClient it seems they reimplemented the thing completely -.- | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: my bad, but when do we disable patches then? | 14:39 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: but i thought they had replaced ubuntu-auth with ubuntu-sso a while ago and you had handled it? | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | we dont | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | well | 14:39 |
| ofirk | Riddell: no, but I wish I could :) | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | when there is reason to have them hang around | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | liek they come from debian and would get merged at next merge | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | in such a case you would just comment out the entry so they will not get merged | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yes, but then they replaced ubuntu-sso-client with ubuntu-sso-client which implements a completely new approach | 14:40 |
| Riddell | ug | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | well, not completely new, just at a large scale in that it provides the ability to stack a GUI ontop of it | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | so when we update a package -> new source has that patch -> patch was from debian -> comment it | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | and hence make the browser window obsolete | 14:41 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: and I have to provide a patch for aptcc to improve the package status while installing/downloading | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | so now when you start ubuntuone in maverick you will get a window asking you to provide your ubuntu SSO data *or* allows you to create a new account etc. etc. | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | btw ill not be around starting tommorow till next friday, minor tests | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: btw rekonq dev in #rekonq now :D | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: at least they exposed the API for the GUI foo via dbus so other guis can be easily implemented (which they apparently did because I was whinign about their original concept) | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: reported bug | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | bug number | 14:43 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: seems a shame to have got so far and then get blocked at the last minute | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I need to try that new foo, we could deploy ubuntuone-kde and use ubuntu-sso-client (with the GTK interface) | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | of course that comes at the price of no KWallet integration | 14:44 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks for remembering backports in your kdegraphics fixing. | 14:47 |
| alvin | I second that | 14:49 |
| Riddell | ScottK: alas the security guy isn't awake to upload it to security | 14:52 |
| shadeslayer | whoa | 15:00 |
| shadeslayer | who uploaded all of KDE all over again? :P | 15:00 |
| ScottK | 4.5.1 tagging today, FYI. | 15:01 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Are we going to try to get 4.5.1 in before beta freeze? | 15:01 |
| Riddell | goodness no | 15:01 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: btw is there still time for the application installer? I'm planning to start coding it this week (tough I must also study for Qt Essentials exam) | 15:02 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: if it's the same Qt Essentials exam I did at Akademy you'll pass it without study | 15:03 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: final freeze is sep 16th so it's pushing it close | 15:03 |
| dantti_work | ScottK: hmm I have a kdelibs patch that would be good to go into 4.5.1 but none replied to me in k-c-d do know who should I poke? | 15:03 |
| ScottK | dantti_work: No idea. I'd ask Riddell. | 15:03 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: k, I think it's enough time | 15:03 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: do you think dfaure could help reviewing the KCMultiDialog patch? | 15:05 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: I would expect so yes | 15:06 |
| dantti_work | k, thanks | 15:07 |
| Riddell | but he's not online today, maybe he's away | 15:07 |
| dantti_work | yes, I just found that out :P | 15:07 |
| rbelem | hey Riddell :-) | 15:10 |
| Riddell | hi rbelem | 15:11 |
| rbelem | Riddell, did you have time to take a look on the seed? :-) | 15:12 |
| rbelem | hey apachelogger | 15:12 |
| Riddell | rbelem: we need to wait until the package exists | 15:13 |
| Riddell | and it hasn't compiled yet https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings/10.10.0ubuntu1/+build/1933726 | 15:13 |
| rbelem | ah ok :-) | 15:13 |
| rbelem | cool | 15:13 |
| rbelem | thanks Riddell ;-) | 15:13 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: I've just sent you a patch with all the changes since last upstream release of PK | 15:25 |
| ulysses | o.O, time to write the Kubuntu team's monthly report for august | 15:36 |
| debfx | Riddell: qtcreator package is ready: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/qtcreator_2.0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc | 15:47 |
| debfx | the private header files don't seem to be necessary anymore | 15:47 |
| Riddell | debfx: any new features? | 15:47 |
| debfx | Riddell: nope, just bug fixes | 15:48 |
| Riddell | groovy | 15:48 |
| ulysses | Riddell: KOffice 2.2.2 is in Maverick, right? | 15:51 |
| Riddell | ulysses: yes, that should get an upstream release today too | 15:55 |
| ulysses | Riddell: thanks | 15:55 |
| ulysses | Skeleton of the report for august ready: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReports | 15:59 |
| Riddell | lovely thanks ulysses | 16:02 |
| nixternal | ScottK: did you get the email from jono that says, "I think you could be awesome on the board." ? | 16:02 |
| nixternal | how about anyone else under ~ubuntu-dev ^^ | 16:03 |
| Riddell | not me | 16:03 |
| nixternal | hrmm, i figured he just mass emailed a group of devs because he used my @gmail.com addy and not @ubuntu/@kubuntu | 16:04 |
| nixternal | argh, gotta reboot this server...it is having some weird issue every few boots or so..brb | 16:05 |
| Riddell | anyone want to package the new kmess? | 16:05 |
| === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter | ||
| * ScottK guesses that reboot didn't go so well. | 16:10 | |
| agateau | dantti_work: about your patches: you should try putting them on reviewboard.kde.org, you may get more people to look at them this way (but no warranty!) | 16:13 |
| ScottK | agateau: I hope you remember my kopete preferences problem. I still have it and am hoping you can work on it .... | 16:14 |
| agateau | ScottK: when I looked at it, I couldn't reproduce it, that makes it difficult to fix :/ | 16:16 |
| ScottK | agateau: So you get a scroll bar in the plugins page? | 16:16 |
| * agateau checks again | 16:16 | |
| ScottK | nixternal: Yes. I got it. | 16:16 |
| nixternal | figured...someone else had to have gotten it as well | 16:17 |
| nixternal | I love how impersonal he makes what should have been a personal email | 16:17 |
| ScottK | Mine was reasonably personalized. | 16:17 |
| ScottK | (I know you have some concerns ....) | 16:18 |
| ScottK | My response was something along the lines of "Since I think it will do more harm than good as currently defined, no." | 16:18 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu, making your PC friendly | Lets write a report: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReports | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 | ||
| agateau | ScottK: "good" news, I think I can reproduce it now | 16:18 |
| ScottK | agateau: That is good news. | 16:19 |
| agateau | Scott I have a scrollbar in the plugin page, but the dialog can't be shrinked to less than 640px tall | 16:19 |
| agateau | ScottK: ^ | 16:19 |
| ScottK | Ah. I have a 576 pixel screen on the netbook. | 16:20 |
| ScottK | So I suspect you're on the right track. | 16:20 |
| * apachelogger never gets invited to join boards :( | 16:20 | |
| agateau | ScottK: ouch, iirc the minimum height from kde hig is 600px | 16:20 |
| * apachelogger clearly is too controversial ^^ | 16:20 | |
| agateau | ScottK: I suspect it's because of the webcam page | 16:21 |
| ScottK | agateau: 576 (or is it 578) is only used by a few netbooks. | 16:21 |
| agateau | ScottK: I agree, but the hig predates netbooks | 16:21 |
| ScottK | Right. | 16:21 |
| ScottK | So let's exceed the requirement slightly .... | 16:21 |
| nixternal | ScottK: you only made your's personalized with the response. plus i have kind of followed the talk on ubuntu-dev | 16:22 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: something about mobile reportworthy? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReports | 16:23 |
| agateau | ScottK: yes, it's because of the webcam page: I just rmmod'ed the webcam module and the page can now be reduced to an height of 540px | 16:23 |
| agateau | ScottK: can you check it's the same for you? | 16:23 |
| ScottK | I can. | 16:24 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, yep :-) | 16:24 |
| ScottK | Give me a moment to finish something I'm working on and I'll go find the netbook. | 16:24 |
| agateau | ok | 16:24 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, I am not sure where to go from here, supposedly we could include ubuntuone-kde and use the GTK authentication | 16:29 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I think that would be reasonable, we should put a large "technology preview" or similar label on it anyway | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 16:30 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: what needs doing for debconf support? simply install libdebconf-kde0 ? | 16:32 |
| Riddell | oh I see -DDEBCONF_SUPPORT | 16:35 |
| maco | apachelogger: i thought the gtk auth broke it? | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | owncloud ftw | 16:39 |
| Riddell | except owncloud requires you to set up your own server which is quite a different usecase than ubuntu one | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: no one is keeping novell from setting up a owncloud and voila | 16:41 |
| Riddell | or better kubuntu-de.org, I hear they have server sponsorship :) | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | or opendesktop.org for that matter | 16:41 |
| Riddell | karli says he doesn't plan to do that | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | ic | 16:42 |
| nixternal | dropbox :p | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | hmmm | 16:42 |
| nixternal | i use it on kubuntu, my droid, my tv | 16:42 |
| nixternal | my windows box :p | 16:42 |
| nixternal | didn't want to say that one out loud | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: looking at ubuntu-sso-cliennt, I think that is only like 5k sloc (of which most things will be silly class property code for json<->qobject) ;) | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: owncloud you could have on your kubuntu ... that runs on your pc, your laptop, your netbook, your n950, your tv, your tablet ... | 16:44 |
| nixternal | dropbox still > | 16:44 |
| nixternal | android!!! | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | android is the sux | 16:44 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, may i add a section for mobile? | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | their nonexistant UI conformity enforcement is an insult ot my eyes | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: please do so :) | 16:44 |
| nixternal | and the funny thing, my old boss from my last job has yet another linux dev job with cloud computing...so i might go back to work for him again just at a new shop | 16:44 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, cool! :-) | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341d3df553ef01156f3f1664970b-pi | 16:45 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, do i need to make any change to kubuntu-mobile-default-settings? :-) | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: no, well, yes, just take what I uploaed and readd the bzr foo ... then create a bzr branch | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | ...or create te branch and then add the bzr foo... | 16:46 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, cool! | 16:46 |
| rbelem | thanks a lot apachelogger | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | yw | 16:47 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: hmm, I can't get debconf to work | 16:48 |
| ScottK | agateau: I'm on the netbook now. I remembered the problem slightly wrong, so you are on the exact right problem. I have a scrollbar for the plugin list, but the button to click OK is off the bottom of the screen. | 16:49 |
| nixternal | apachelogger: just got an email from Novell, re: "File storage maxed out? What would Dilbert do?" | 16:49 |
| nixternal | ruh roh | 16:49 |
| agateau | ScottK: ok, and is it "fixed" if you disable webcam support? | 16:50 |
| ScottK | agateau: How do I do that? | 16:50 |
| * ScottK is looking | 16:50 | |
| agateau | ScottK: disable as in rmmod | 16:50 |
| ScottK | agateau: What do I rm? | 16:50 |
| agateau | ScottK: I did rmmod uvcvicdeo | 16:50 |
| agateau | uvcvideo* | 16:50 |
| ScottK | OK. | 16:50 |
| oxymoron | Does anyone know how to use Kspread in here? | 16:50 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/TeamReports/10/August | 17:05 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, is it ok? :-) | 17:05 |
| ScottK | agateau: Unfortnately after removing that module I still have video support, so no idea. | 17:06 |
| ScottK | agateau: It does sound like you are on the right track. | 17:07 |
| agateau | ScottK: what do you think of this new layout for the Kopete Video config? http://imagebin.ca/view/5472Bkn.htmlhttp://imagebin.ca/view/5472Bkn.html | 17:09 |
| ScottK | Looking | 17:09 |
| * agateau demoes patches personally today :) | 17:10 | |
| ScottK | agateau: Very nice. Ship it. | 17:10 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ Would like to have this in. | 17:10 |
| * agateau generates a path | 17:11 | |
| agateau | *patch | 17:11 |
| agateau | it's quite wide according to the hig, though (max is supposed to be 800px), but I guess it matters less these days | 17:12 |
| ScottK | How wide? | 17:14 |
| agateau | 939px here | 17:14 |
| agateau | ScottK: I hope there is no netbook with less than 1024px out there | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: too detailed I am afraid | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: maybe just merge it into packaging as entry "Default settings package for kubuntu-mobile is now in the repository." | 17:17 |
| ScottK | agateau: 480 X 800 is the smallest I know of, but the 480 high screen systems generally have a way to "move" the screen around if it's too big. | 17:18 |
| ScottK | I think it's fine. | 17:18 |
| agateau | ScottK: ok | 17:18 |
| ScottK | agateau: Should probably see about updating the HIG too. | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | is it just me or are desktop effects horribly broken with intel? | 17:20 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, and the other comments? remove them? | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: yeah, they all pretty much are about that great event of having proper defaults settings, are they not? | 17:21 |
| agateau | ScottK: I think I remember you filled a bug about this issue, but can't find it in my email, do you have the bug number? | 17:21 |
| * ScottK looks | 17:21 | |
| rbelem | apachelogger, you are right :-) | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: seems https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237732 would require rekonq to interact with plasma :P | 17:22 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 237732 in general "Rekonq doesn't open links in current Virtual Desktop" [Normal,Needsinfo: worksforme] | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | or am i wrong? :) | 17:22 |
| ScottK | agateau: Bug 614627 | 17:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 614627 in kdenetwork (Ubuntu) "Kopete configuration window unusable with Plasma Netbook/Air Netbook" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614627 | 17:23 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, done! :-) | 17:23 |
| agateau | ScottK: thanks | 17:23 |
| ScottK | agateau: Thank you for fixing. | 17:23 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: any idea if kopete will get video call using telepathy with gtalk accounts? | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | afaik empathy does that | 17:24 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: I have no idea :/ | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 17:24 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: I doubt agateau would know. He's just fixing a U/I issue. He's not kdenetwork dev. | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | oh.... | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: splendid | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | man | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: that ubuntu-sso stuff segfaults on me | 17:27 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: It's secure then. | 17:27 |
| * apachelogger just lost motivatoin again | 17:27 | |
| agateau | Riddell: should I assign you to the Kopete bug? | 17:28 |
| rbelem | :-D | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: bug 624081 | 17:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 624081 in rekonq (Ubuntu) "rekonq is very slow loading some webpages and show weird messages in console" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624081 | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: saw that , also poked yoann21 about it, lets see what he says | 17:30 |
| * shadeslayer also notes that we have qtcreator 2.0.1 release | 17:31 | |
| Riddell | agateau: can do | 17:32 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: just about to upload qtcreator | 17:32 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: whee :) | 17:32 |
| shadeslayer | because im signing off for the next 10 days or so.. might be in and out ... but wont be able to do anything :P | 17:33 |
| agateau | Riddell: ok | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | jefferai: im disconnecting the account, but dont delete it :P | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | ciao everyone... | 17:34 |
| sheytan | ciao :D | 17:34 |
| * shadeslayer hits disconnect | 17:34 | |
| * jefferai deletes | 17:36 | |
| nigelb | haha | 17:36 |
| ari-tczew | apachelogger: I updated bug 533432. is it enough? | 17:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 533432 in kdegraphics (Ubuntu) "kolourpaint4 breaks GNOME" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533432 | 17:37 |
| Riddell | ScottK: if you're milestoning bugs please tag with "kubuntu" so they appear in the tinyurl in the topic | 17:43 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. Sorry. | 17:43 |
| ScottK | Fixed. | 17:44 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: could you check whether are enough informations? bug 533432 | 18:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 533432 in kdegraphics (Ubuntu) "kolourpaint4 breaks GNOME" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533432 | 18:00 |
| Riddell | ari-tczew: you should check if it happens when running other KDE applications | 18:01 |
| Riddell | ari-tczew: does it happen suddenly or only when gnome is reloaded? | 18:01 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: no. easiest example is konversation or kadu. | 18:01 |
| ari-tczew | only kolourpaint4 | 18:01 |
| Riddell | also change the title to "kolourpaint4 breaks GNOME widget style" | 18:01 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: always during edit image in kolourpaint | 18:02 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: I'm affected by this bug since lucid :( | 18:06 |
| sheytan | http://demotywatory.pl/2026269/A-teraz "Now daddy will play with me" :D | 18:30 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 18:33 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: I'm back, does debconf works now? | 18:36 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: nope | 18:37 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: do I need to do something to the packagekit backend? | 18:37 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: nope, the backend should just do it's magic, have you killed kpackagekitsmarticon after you recompiled? | 18:38 |
| Riddell | I have yes | 18:39 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kpackagekit.jpeg | 18:48 |
| dantti_work | hmm very weird | 18:49 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: do you /tmp has any socket files? | 18:49 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: yes | 18:50 |
| Riddell | kpk_debconf_6855 and a couple others | 18:50 |
| dantti_work | :( | 18:52 |
| dantti_work | aptcc is running ? | 18:52 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: how would I find that out? | 18:53 |
| dantti_work | PackageKit.conf defaultbackend | 18:53 |
| Riddell | umm, it just started working | 18:54 |
| Riddell | works for both aiccu and sun-java5-jr | 18:56 |
| Riddell | well that's annoying, you fiddle around for ages and then it suddenly starts working | 18:56 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: Debian logo in dialogue is a bit out of place, is that the default of libdebconf-kde? | 18:57 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: yes the default, it uses you system let me find wich file | 18:58 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: /usr/share/pixmaps/%1-logo.png | 18:59 |
| dantti_work | where %1 is the output of lsb_release -is | 18:59 |
| dantti_work | if it fails it tried debian-logo | 19:00 |
| dantti_work | drop a kubuntu logo there and it should be fine | 19:00 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: btw did you packages the last revision os debconf kde? otherwise if someone clicks on the X (of the window) it will be waiting there for ever | 19:01 |
| Riddell | I haven't pakcaged debconf-kde at all, that was JontheEchidna who did svn1160112 on Tue, 17 Aug 2010 | 19:03 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: does it need to be newer than that? | 19:03 |
| JontheEchidna | (I should note that lsb_release identifies us as ubuntu, so that's no good) | 19:04 |
| dantti_work | well this is what gnome-debconf front end does | 19:06 |
| dantti_work | dunno what's is best then | 19:06 |
| ScottK | Alternatives should work. | 19:07 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: yes better repckage r1167177 has this fix | 19:07 |
| dantti_work | ScottK: which alternatives? | 19:08 |
| ScottK | update-alternatives | 19:09 |
| Riddell | ScottK: would you agree to a FFe which adds debconf support to kpackagekit? | 19:10 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Yes | 19:10 |
| Riddell | thought you might :) | 19:10 |
| dantti_work | well the feature was there :P but it wasn't working (a bug qdbusview had that made me think my code was good) | 19:11 |
| Riddell | ScottK: bug 624173 for your approval | 19:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 624173 in kpackagekit (Ubuntu) "debconf support in KPackagekit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624173 | 19:12 |
| ScottK | Done | 19:15 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: hmm, I spot a beastie http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kpackagekit1.jpeg | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ubuntu-sso-client is complete and utterly broken | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | currently does not even work in KDE | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | actually it currently segfaults | 19:18 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: fooey, a lost cause then I guess | 19:19 |
| * apachelogger is still fighting | 19:19 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: there is always the option of rewriting it again :P | 19:20 |
| * apachelogger does not get why they did not write the backend in C to begin with and only the frontend in python | 19:20 | |
| apachelogger | that would not make me want to save my RAM from overly bloated python modules | 19:20 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: hmm that is supposed to be an icon( since I set it as the windowIcon) | 19:29 |
| dantti_work | don't you have the kubuntu gear icon? | 19:29 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: yes, can do | 19:30 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: does sun-java works now? | 19:33 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: yes | 19:33 |
| dantti_work | good :P | 19:34 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: I did as you suggested and only removed the update bits from the settings UI | 19:37 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: nice, imo a button next to the checkbox (show developemnt sources) labeled edit sources would be great | 19:40 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| apachelogger | again i wrote a blog entry so incredibly long that I do not want to read it myself :P | 20:12 |
| * apachelogger fears he will have to edit it for two days before he can publish it | 20:12 | |
| dantti_work | apachelogger: I do have this problem too :P | 20:13 |
| apachelogger | it is a terrible one | 20:13 |
| dantti_work | yes, you look at it and think who will want to read this :P | 20:14 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: have you applied the PK patch I sent to you by email? | 20:42 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: no I did a checkout of the svn | 20:46 |
| Riddell | and I don't think I have an e-mail from you | 20:46 |
| Riddell | oh, duh, we need a MIR for debconf-kde | 20:47 |
| dantti_work | MIR? | 20:47 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: no no, I sent you an email at ubuntu, because of some improvements/fixes in aptcc | 20:48 |
| apachelogger | at the rising of the moon, at the rising of the moon, for the pikes must be together at the rising of the moon | 20:48 |
| * apachelogger dances with Nightrose | 20:48 | |
| dantti_work | but I have just found out with some debiand dudes that autoremove is a hated feature in aptitude | 20:48 |
| Nightrose | \o/ | 20:49 |
| dantti_work | so I was thinking on changing aptcc to be like apt-get and don't do that by default | 20:49 |
| apachelogger | !mir | 20:49 |
| ubottu | mir is Main Inclusion Report - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess for more information. | 20:49 |
| apachelogger | dantti_work: ^ | 20:49 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: no e-mail here, could you resend? | 20:49 |
| apachelogger | basically getting a package into main and on the CD | 20:49 |
| dantti_work | hmm thanks apachelogger :) | 20:50 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: I can but don't you think this patch should include what I've just said? | 20:50 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: yes if possible, but beta freeze tomorrow so not really time for delay :) | 20:52 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: it's a one second change :P | 20:53 |
| dantti_work | done :P | 20:54 |
| * apachelogger notes that this was more like a one minute change :P | 20:56 | |
| dantti_work | apachelogger: yes, opening the files was longer than s/true/false :P | 20:59 |
| apachelogger | stupid files | 20:59 |
| dantti_work | hehe | 20:59 |
| apachelogger | there is whiskey in the jar... | 20:59 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: jriddell at buntu dot com? | 20:59 |
| apachelogger | you forgot the you | 21:00 |
| apachelogger | it is you bun too | 21:00 |
| dantti_work | hehe | 21:00 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: mail sent subject "PackageKit 0.6.8v2" | 21:01 |
| * sheytan likes rekonq so far :) | 21:04 | |
| Riddell | ScottK: if I told you I got kdebindings compiled on arm would you kiss me? | 21:05 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Depends on where. | 21:05 |
| ScottK | Sounds encouraging though. | 21:06 |
| Riddell | on where? on arm! | 21:08 |
| JontheEchidna | ahaha | 21:08 |
| txwikinger | forl | 21:08 |
| txwikinger | rofl even | 21:09 |
| txwikinger | When will KDE support multi-touch screen ? | 21:09 |
| Riddell | sometime after Qt does | 21:10 |
| txwikinger | do I need to ask the next question? | 21:10 |
| txwikinger | How comes that Gnome has it already in Maverick? | 21:11 |
| Riddell | because some people were paid lots of money to develop it at a guess | 21:13 |
| txwikinger | hmm | 21:13 |
| * txwikinger needs to make a formal complaint! conference packs have 200 Ubuntu CDs and only 75 Kubuntu | 21:14 | |
| JontheEchidna | popcon says that kubuntu/ubuntu ratio is 1/4 last time I checked, so that is better than expected :P | 21:16 |
| txwikinger | Well.. I had 1:1 demand on the last conference | 21:17 |
| Riddell | yeah that's better odds than what the locos tend to get | 21:17 |
| Riddell | I can order you kubuntu CDs if needed | 21:18 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: let me first order and see if there is something I don't get.. if so, I appreciate your offer | 21:18 |
| === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh | ||
| yofel | any way one can make the 'hibernate' button in the power management applet and the menu disappear when no swap is available? | 22:01 |
| dantti_work | yofel: I don't making the button disapear is a good idea but surelly fail with a message box explaning why you can't hibernate is better would be great :) | 22:25 |
| dantti_work | *don't think | 22:25 |
| yofel | dantti_work: agreed, currently it actually tries to suspend to disk, notices that it can't and leaves you reisub as only sane reboot method :( not very nice considering the settings button is incredibly small and hibernate is right next to it :/ | 22:31 |
| dantti_work | yofel: try filling a bug against it (if there isn't one already) | 22:32 |
| ScottK | File it on bugs.kde.org though. It's an upstream issue. | 22:35 |
| yofel | k | 22:35 |
| apachelogger | time progresses too fast | 22:41 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: I still didn't get your e-mail, can you try sending to jr@ muse.19inch.net | 23:05 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: sure :) | 23:06 |
| Riddell | rbelem: seed changed, kubuntu-meta uploaded | 23:07 |
| rbelem | Riddell, cool! :-D | 23:17 |
| Riddell | rbelem: now you just need to convince someone to get the CD build scripts producing kubuntu-mobile images | 23:20 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: hmm, are you sure you're sending this e-mail at all? | 23:21 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: try riddell @gmail.com | 23:21 |
| rbelem | ehehe | 23:22 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: sorry, I was commiting a patch to kdelibs, but I'm sure I sent this twice, let me try again | 23:22 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i think that persia will enable the images | 23:22 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: sent to both emails | 23:23 |
| rbelem | Riddell, and tgall_foo will enable it on linaro | 23:23 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: oh no wait :P | 23:23 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: got it now | 23:23 |
| dantti_work | sent the wrong file :P | 23:23 |
| Riddell | oops | 23:24 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: ok, now the v3 right one :P | 23:25 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: I've fixed debconf-kde to delete the socket files, and kpk to delete debconf-kde objects, but can go in next packaging if you don't care :P | 23:26 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: what are debconf-kde objects? | 23:29 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: send me the patch and I'll get it in | 23:30 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: why do we want the packagekit patch? | 23:30 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: the libdebconf-kde objects are the ones that handle debconf to show the dialog, to deleting them makes the socket on /tmp disapear | 23:30 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: the packagekit patch that I've send you by mail has the "changelog" in the email some fixes/improvements | 23:31 |
| dantti_work | Riddell: you can fetch kpk and libdebconf-kde from svn I commited both a while ago | 23:31 |
| dantti_work | it's just a small fix, it this will give you too much work, then just apply the one I sent to you by email | 23:32 |
| Quintasan_Droid | Greetings from Carpentras, Frace | 23:33 |
| Quintasan_Droid | France* | 23:33 |
| Riddell | salut Quintasan_Droid | 23:38 |
| ari-tczew | Quintasan_Droid: holidays? | 23:39 |
| Quintasan_Droid | ari-tczew: nah, attending a wedding ceremony | 23:39 |
| Quintasan_Droid | Though it takes place at Saturday | 23:40 |
| Quintasan_Droid | Riddell: well, applying for sponsorship | 23:40 |
| ari-tczew | Quintasan_Droid: are you getting maried? :P | 23:41 |
| Quintasan_Droid | Not me, some distant (to me at least)relative is getting married | 23:41 |
| Quintasan_Droid | TBH I'm here just for food :P | 23:42 |
| Quintasan_Droid | Riddell: what about that Polish blog ? Dunno if I mentioned it but she is kde-i18n-pl cooridnator | 23:45 |
| Riddell | Quintasan_Droid: yes thanks, it's quite fiddly adding a new feed class so it'll need to wait until I'm not doing a million things | 23:47 |
| Quintasan_Droid | Riddell: Oh, well, good luck. I consider doing million things a daily basis | 23:48 |
| Quintasan_Droid | :) | 23:49 |
| Riddell | which is why it took so long to get different feedclasses on there at all | 23:50 |
| Riddell | dantti_work: do you know if the configure.ac part of that patch is needed in packagekit? it's causing autoconf to do autoconf things | 23:59 |
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