[00:01] <Riddell> apachelogger: voila ^^
[00:09] <rbelem> hey Riddell, i just filed a bug to update the kubuntu-mobile seed  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/623662
[00:09] <rbelem> :-)
[00:10] <rbelem> Riddell, and I think that http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings is ok :-)
[00:12] <Riddell> rbelem: great, will get to that tomorrow
[00:14] <rbelem> Riddell, I think that i do not need to submit a patch, it just needed to replace kubuntu-netbook-default-settings by kubuntu-mobile-default-settings :-)
[00:15] <rbelem> Riddell, thanks :-)
[05:54] <apachelogger> good morning kubuntu
[05:54] <apachelogger> Riddell: ping
[06:26]  * apachelogger loves how in rekonq you cannot load a blank page
[06:27] <apachelogger> and now my default favorites are all messed up :O
[06:55] <rbelem> apachelogger, ping
[06:56] <apachelogger> rbelem: pong
[06:56] <apachelogger> rbelem: can you please create a bzr branch for the default settings? ;)
[06:56] <rbelem> apachelogger, wow you still awake. what is your timezone?
[06:56] <rbelem> :-D
[06:56] <apachelogger> UTC+2
[06:56] <apachelogger> I am awake again ;)
[06:56] <rbelem> apachelogger, yep
[06:57] <rbelem> eheheh
[06:57] <apachelogger> 8am here
[06:57] <rbelem> :-D
[06:57] <rbelem> it is 01:57 here
[06:57] <rbelem> am
[06:57] <apachelogger> ^^
[06:58] <rbelem> i'm at -0400
[06:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: rekonqs code style is not very attracting
[06:59] <rbelem> apachelogger, i updated the startkde patch 
[07:00] <rbelem> apachelogger, http://paste.ubuntu.com/483273/
[07:00] <rbelem> apachelogger, should i file a new bug for it?
[07:00] <apachelogger> rbelem: did the old one get uploaded already?
[07:01] <rbelem> hum... i do not remember
[07:02] <apachelogger> yeah, it is in the branch
[07:02] <apachelogger> rbelem: do you need it for the beta?
[07:02] <rbelem> yep :-)
[07:02] <apachelogger> ok
[07:02] <apachelogger> uploading then
[07:03] <rbelem> cool! thanks a lot apachelogger :-D
[07:05] <apachelogger> hm
[07:05]  * apachelogger bzr blames Riddell for commenting out 07_kdmrc_defaults_kubuntu.diff
[07:06] <apachelogger> that patch does more than change a string
[07:06]  * apachelogger is going to remove the string change and turns the patch back on
[07:15] <apachelogger> rbelem: did you intentionally go from elif [ -e /usr/share/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings/share/autostart/plasma-mobile.desktop ]; then
[07:15] <apachelogger> to a standalone if?
[07:16] <rbelem> apachelogger, yep
[07:17] <apachelogger> oki
[07:17] <rbelem> apachelogger, that's why if we install plasma-netbook packages it will no longer able to use plasma-mobile
[07:18] <apachelogger> *nod*
[07:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: for mav+1 we should trim the kds path
[07:18] <apachelogger> /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/
[07:18] <apachelogger> that kde4-profile/default stuff is completely pointless and ugly
[07:22] <apachelogger> rbelem: with that change kmds should depend or recommend kds (BTW)
[07:37] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100825063731-t8s0x918oqkcdz5l * debian/ (README.source changelog control ubuntu-sso-qt.install) prepare for archive
[07:48] <CIA-71> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100825064812-v94qdjynxbqqpfr0 * debian/ (changelog control) prepare for archive
[07:52] <apachelogger> jjesse-netbook: are you also getting logged out of facebook all the time with rekonq?
[07:53] <rbelem> apachelogger, is it ok to leave kds on recommends?
[07:54] <apachelogger> rbelem: yes
[07:54] <apachelogger> probably more appropriate anyway
[07:54] <rbelem> cool :-)
[07:58] <MLxO> sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but are recent (22-24/8) dailies supposed to fullly install? I tried and the GUI reported success, but looking at the result there was no initrd image, grub wasn't installed and the main user wasn't created (this was a user-customized partitioning install)
[08:12] <CIA-71> [kdebase-workspace] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100825071228-3x296ormy48i3n3a * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[08:12] <CIA-71> * Remove string changes from 07_kdmrc_defaults_kubuntu.diff and reactivate the
[08:12] <CIA-71> patch because it does other important things besides changing i18ns * Update
[08:21] <apachelogger> agateau: hey, can you do something about bug 541920
[08:22]  * agateau clicks
[08:23] <apachelogger> ehm
[08:23] <apachelogger> oh
[08:23] <apachelogger> rbelem just broke the defaults -.-
[08:26] <agateau> apachelogger: afaik it's fixed for me. what do you want me to do?
[08:26] <valorie> in Ubuntu it's fixed?
[08:28] <apachelogger> agateau: close the bug or something ^^
[08:28] <agateau> valorie: if we are still carrying the ugly GNOME_SESSION fix, it is
[08:28] <agateau> err DESKTOP_SESSION
[08:29] <valorie> hmmm, 9 hours ago a reporter is saying it isn't fixed
[08:32] <alvin> Will qt4-x11 from maverick be backported to ppa:kubuntu-backports? (bug 614699)
[08:54] <agateau> valorie: let me check if we still carry the patch, then
[08:55] <agateau> valorie: we do
[08:56] <valorie> so we should just tell ubuntuneros to update?
[08:56] <valorie> wow, ubuntu users
[08:56] <valorie> geez
[08:59] <CIA-71> [ktouch] sitter * 1167743 * trunk/KDE/kdeedu/ktouch/training/dvorak.ktouch.xml Change 'cunts' into 'cheap' so that edubuntu people can sleep well again. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu/+bug/622592
[09:00] <valorie> oh, my
[09:02] <CIA-71> [ktouch] sitter * 1167744 * trunk/KDE/kdeedu/ktouch/training/dvorak.ktouch.xml oh, another change slipped in - revert :)
[09:02] <agateau> valorie: let me switch to gnome to be 100% sure it is fixed
[09:03] <CIA-71> [ktouch] sitter * 1167745 * branches/KDE/4.5/kdeedu/ktouch/training/dvorak.ktouch.xml backport r1167743/r1167744 Change 'cunts' into 'cheap' so that edubuntu people can sleep well again. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu/+bug/622592
[09:06] <agateau> valorie: back from gnomy land
[09:06] <agateau> valorie: it's definitely fixed
[09:06] <valorie> oh very cool
[09:07] <valorie> in lucid, or will they have to wait for 10.10?
[09:10] <agateau> valorie: I just tested in Maverick, but the fix was in Lucid, assuming it was not dropped
[09:10] <valorie> super!
[09:10] <agateau> valorie: my Lucid machine is being painful these days so I can't test right now
[09:11]  * valorie is about to make the jump to Mav
[09:11] <valorie> on Sat. - global jam
[09:11] <valorie> if I can backup my /home by then
[09:14] <apachelogger> agateau: thanks for looking into this *hug*
[09:15] <agateau> apachelogger: no pb
[09:15] <valorie> apachelogger: thanks for raising the issue
[09:15] <valorie> no gnomies have stopped in to report it's been fixed
[09:16] <valorie> so I didn't know
[09:16] <valorie> ungrateful little varmints
[09:21] <apachelogger> lol
[09:22] <valorie> reformatting the hateful new drive
[09:22] <valorie> I hope I did it right
[09:25]  * apachelogger creates a plasmoid so he knows how much longer he must excited about getting a new laptop
[09:25] <valorie> ups tracker plasmoid?
[09:26] <apachelogger> no, a countdown plasmoid
[09:26] <apachelogger> valorie: for all them silly tracker APIs you need to sign up for some special subscription program thingy
[09:26] <valorie> ah
[09:27] <valorie> I just use their site
[09:27]  * apachelogger already wanted to create a tracker for fedex due to gsoc, but ...
[09:27] <valorie> so last millenium....
[09:27] <apachelogger> yep
[09:27] <valorie> you are young
[09:27] <apachelogger> plasmoids are the future
[09:27] <valorie> I'm old
[09:27] <valorie> lol
[09:27] <apachelogger> unlike rekonq which eats my keyboard input
[09:28]  * valorie gave up on rekonq earlier
[09:28] <valorie> it crashed on me twice
[09:28] <valorie> so, back to konq for awhile
[09:28]  * apachelogger really does not get while some say it works perfect and others have nothing but trouble
[09:28] <apachelogger> s/while/why
[09:29]  * apachelogger is scared of opening kontact since he upgraded to 4.5b2 ^^
[09:29] <valorie> heck, I don't even use kmail right now
[09:30] <apachelogger> that is also scary
[09:30] <valorie> hopefully my son will get our mail server configured again, and then I'll do it
[09:30] <valorie> yes, so I've heard
[09:30] <valorie> which is why I'm not bugging him
[09:30] <valorie> gmail will work for now
[09:40] <persia> apachelogger, If you're happier with k-m-d-s before the most recent upload, just push the older revision (I advocated it, aside from my comments).
[09:43] <apachelogger> persia: ok
[09:43] <persia> debian/copyright ought get fixed (preamble addition), but that's fairly minor.
[09:44] <persia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/483282/ is what I suggested to rbelem, but it might get in without the change
[09:44] <persia> Sorry for the confusion. I think I don't like the kiosk override architecture, but I now understand it.
[09:53] <valorie> dang, the hd finally finished formatting
[09:53] <valorie> is Kparted a good choice to partition it?
[09:55] <apachelogger> valorie: partitionmanager
[09:55] <apachelogger> !info partitionmanager
[09:56] <valorie> I'll take your advice, thanks!
[09:58] <valorie> it does look like the best of the bunch
[10:05] <Riddell> ooh rekonq and flash are lovelyness after the QX11Embed update
[10:14] <apachelogger> valorie: when is visualization arriving in amarok2?
[10:14] <Riddell> thanks for fixing kdebase-workspace apachelogger 
[10:14] <apachelogger> no problem
[10:15] <apachelogger> Riddell: do we need a FFe for kmds?
[10:15] <valorie> apachelogger: when phonon fully supports them
[10:15] <valorie> our gsoc student has them working now
[10:15] <valorie> but they crash at the end of the song
[10:16] <valorie> I was discussing bribing j-b to do the necessary work
[10:16] <valorie> with a nice bottle of french liqueur
[10:16] <valorie> but I never collared him
[10:16] <apachelogger> valorie: is it commited somwhere?
[10:17] <valorie> uh
[10:17] <valorie> I'm sure it is
[10:17] <valorie> let me see if I can find a link in -devel ml
[10:20] <apachelogger> valorie: also do you have junior jobs over at amarok?
[10:20] <valorie> yes
[10:20] <Riddell> apachelogger: I believe so, if you file it I can approve it
[10:20] <valorie> how many, I don't know
[10:20] <valorie> but yes
[10:23] <apachelogger> Riddell: bug 623870
[10:24] <Riddell> apachelogger: approved!
[10:24] <apachelogger> cheers
[10:27] <apachelogger> ohm
[10:27] <apachelogger> still not translatable
[10:27] <apachelogger> meh
[10:27]  * apachelogger fixes that
[10:28] <apachelogger> or is it now
[10:28]  * apachelogger pokes
[10:29] <apachelogger> ah should be
[10:29] <Riddell> dantti_work: is now a good time to take that kpackagekit snapshot?
[10:29] <apachelogger> Riddell: kmds uploaded
[10:34] <Riddell> accepted!
[10:34] <apachelogger> thanks
[10:34] <Riddell> remind me in a bit about the binary
[10:34] <Riddell> and the seed change
[10:35] <Riddell> now, anyone know why I'm not getting upgrade notifications from kubuntu-notification-helper
[10:40] <valorie> riddell, in lucid or mav?
[10:40] <valorie> I'm getting them very intermittently in lucid
[10:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: knh should not give upgrade notifications?
[10:41] <apachelogger> kpk's smarticon thingy should  do that
[10:43] <Riddell> apachelogger: that would explain it then
[10:56] <sheytan> Hey guys, how do you like this one: http://a.imageshack.us/img824/4237/techspecs2.jpg ? :D
[11:02] <apachelogger> sheytan: how would that list be maintained?
[11:05] <sheytan> apachelogger https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/ :)
[11:06] <apachelogger> that is not very up-to-date and ubuntu
[11:06] <apachelogger> kubuntu does not necessarily work on the same hardware as ubuntu
[11:06] <apachelogger> especially not when it comes to graphics
[11:07] <sheytan> anyway it's ok to have such list for users ;)
[11:07] <sheytan> and that differences might only be because of KDE effects, right?
[11:09] <apachelogger> yes
[11:09] <apachelogger> well
[11:09] <apachelogger> I am just saying
[11:09] <apachelogger> mind that maintenance effort do not exceed use
[11:09] <apachelogger> sheytan: looks hot though
[11:10] <sheytan> yep, thank you :)
[11:11]  * apachelogger is wondering what to cook today
[11:12] <jussi> apachelogger: stirfry.
[11:13] <jussi> pancakes!
[11:15] <Riddell> reindeer!
[11:23] <nigelb> ok, wow http://web.archive.org/web/20080504160816/behindubuntu.org/interviews/JonathanRiddell/
[11:35] <Nightrose> valorie: if you need bribing j-b i can do that in mountain view in person ;-)
[11:48] <sladen> no blizzz
[12:05] <apachelogger> we are fresh out of blizzz
[12:07] <JontheEchidna> Aha! That's why kde4libs was wanting to be compiled with utempter: * Fix install files in kdebase-workspace-bin now kwrited is a kded
[12:07] <JontheEchidna> Sorry for breaking -workspace. How was I to know? :P
[12:08] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: don't worry, I broke it in different ways :)
[12:08] <JontheEchidna> ;-)
[12:08]  * apachelogger reminds everyone that without failure every once in a while one easily gets accused of cheating :P
[12:09] <apachelogger> hm
[12:10] <apachelogger> is our kdepim beta built against a different Qt version?
[12:10]  * apachelogger gets different themeing for some reason
[12:11] <apachelogger> hm
[12:12] <apachelogger> akonadi && nepomuk && dbus pretty much overload my system
[12:12] <JontheEchidna> nu kdepim made dbus use 98 MB of RAMz last I tried it :(
[12:12] <JontheEchidna> no kmail2 for me
[12:13] <apachelogger> :O
[12:13] <apachelogger> that must have been a dbus memleak
[12:13] <apachelogger> unless a super large mail got passed to nepomuk
[12:13] <apachelogger> which is also entirely possible
[12:16]  * jussi note Riddell liked the reindeer while in Finland...
[12:16] <JontheEchidna> bbiab
[12:33] <apachelogger> Riddell: 3 out of 4 default favorites in rekonq are not useful in localized enviornments
[12:33] <apachelogger> especially kubuntu forums disturbs me there
[12:34] <apachelogger> since it is not official and not useful to 90% of earths population
[12:35] <Riddell> sadly not easy to localise I think
[12:35] <apachelogger> well, I think we should drop kubuntu forums
[12:35] <Riddell> surely kubuntu forums are useful to a fair proportion of kubuntu users though?
[12:36] <apachelogger> Riddell: if they know how to, and if they want to request support in english
[12:37] <Riddell> most people know how to use forums
[12:37] <apachelogger> with kubuntu.org and kde.org you at least have options to switch to localized versions if you manage to navigate
[12:37] <apachelogger> Riddell: in english
[12:37] <apachelogger> english english english
[12:37] <apachelogger> last time I used it was even asking me silly questions someone from asia might not even be able to answer because they were completely USish
[12:38] <apachelogger> further more it does not implement new kubuntu branding which hurts the CI
[12:38] <Mamarok> apachelogger: talk to claydoh about that, he maintains the forum
[12:39] <Mamarok> claydoh: ^ 
[12:39] <apachelogger> I told him
[12:39] <Riddell> seems better than nothing
[12:39] <Riddell> it has never had decent artwork that site
[12:39] <apachelogger> kubuntu.org has a nice get help section
[12:40] <apachelogger> if the user knows enough english to walk through that he will be able to get localized support
[12:40] <steveire> Just fyi, akonadi doesn't pass mails around over dbus, so that wouldn't cause the high ram usage
[12:40] <apachelogger> steveire: then the library the mail feeder uses uses dbus
[12:40] <apachelogger> something is clearly eating away on dbus
[12:41] <steveire> Right, dbus is used, but not for transferring mails
[12:41] <steveire> A local socket is used for tha actual transfer
[12:41] <apachelogger> so what is dbus used for?
[12:42] <steveire> Notifications. Things like 'A new email has just arrived in the inbox' or 'the contact in the addressbook foo was just changed'
[12:42] <steveire> That triggers the applications to get the new item. Or if the notification is 'email foo was deleted' the thing is just removed from the ui
[12:43] <apachelogger> Riddell: if you absolutely want a forum there, then let us at least use forum.kde.org
[12:43] <apachelogger> for it does not look like it got stuck in the 1990's and lists a quite a few localized forums
[12:43] <apachelogger> steveire: ah, I see
[12:44] <apachelogger> so I suppose what jontheechidna was getting was indeed a dbus memleak
[12:45] <Riddell> apachelogger: that seems like a nice idea
[12:45] <apachelogger> ok
[12:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: lets change the order then ... google - kubuntu - userbase - forum
[12:46] <steveire> Yes, it could be that.
[12:46] <apachelogger> Nightrose: KDE is ok with us having forum.kde.org in rekonq's default list of favorites?
[12:47] <Riddell> apachelogger: ok
[12:47] <Nightrose> apachelogger: i can't see why not
[12:47] <apachelogger> oki
[12:47] <apachelogger> Riddell: is that a patch?
[12:47] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes kubuntu_05_default_homepages.diff
[12:47] <apachelogger> ok, thanks
[12:49] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: pingy
[12:52] <apachelogger> Riddell: why are we not setting that via kds?
[12:53] <apachelogger> seems it supports setting it via rekonqrc
[12:53] <Riddell> apachelogger: if that can be done then go ahead
[12:57] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopsx1746
[13:02] <Riddell> apachelogger: groovy
[13:16] <sheytan> apachelogger do you develop rekonq?
[13:17] <apachelogger> no
[13:17] <sheytan> do you know who?
[13:17] <apachelogger> I very much think that the lead author would not like me :P
[13:17] <apachelogger> sheytan: #reknq
[13:17] <apachelogger> #rekonq
[13:20] <apachelogger> Riddell: new kds copyright -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/483405/ did I forget someone?
[13:20]  * apachelogger notes that bzr log is horrible 
[13:21]  * nigelb notes that bzr gui is nicer
[13:22] <apachelogger> last I checked it was all rather... not-integrated
[13:23] <nigelb> I only use it for one thing, backporting patches
[13:23] <nigelb> Its helps figure out nicely which files where changed in a commit
[13:23] <Riddell> apachelogger: seems about right
[13:24] <apachelogger> ok, uploading then
[13:26] <CIA-71> [kubuntu-default-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100825122627-90is7d2acvvzsixr * (6 files in 3 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[13:26] <CIA-71> * Add rekonqrc to set default favorites (replaces patch in rekonq) * Bump
[13:26] <CIA-71> standards to 3.9.1 * Long due copyright update * Build-depend on pkg-kde-tools
[13:29] <debfx> qtcreator 2.0.1 released :)
[13:29]  * debfx starts packaging
[13:31] <Riddell> ofirk: going to come to the summit? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/
[13:31] <CIA-71> [sysadmin] jmthomas * 1167829 * trunk/ (extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/ kdereview/libqapt/) Move to extragear/sysadmin
[13:31] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: congratulations ^^
[13:31] <JontheEchidna> :)
[13:32] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: btw, where does one configure CIA-71 again?
[13:32]  * JontheEchidna seems to have lost the urly and cannot find it again
[13:32] <apachelogger> cia.vc
[13:33] <JontheEchidna> I knew that much :P
[13:33] <JontheEchidna> oh, wasn't logged in, even though it said "your account"
[13:55] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: well yes, there you get to your account once you are logged in, obviously ;)
[13:55]  * apachelogger finds that silly naming
[14:22]  * apachelogger hates how rekonq crashes with flash -.-
[14:23] <dantti_work> Riddell: yes, now is a good time for that, yesterday I finish all things I'd like to fix in it and asked translators to do their magic
[14:24] <dantti_work> Riddell: btw the patches that you applied in kcm settings will probably break
[14:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: pong
[14:24] <dantti_work> Riddell: imo it'd be better to only hid the update section, we could work on something for it don't be so empty...
[14:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: why did you only deactivate the patches in rekonq?
[14:26] <apachelogger> I recon apt stuff is surely available upstream and the other stuff also seems dated
[14:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: forwarded upstream
[14:26] <shadeslayer> oh
[14:26] <shadeslayer> you mean remove them?
[14:28] <apachelogger> yes
[14:28] <apachelogger> you only commented them out in debian/patches/series
[14:30] <apachelogger> Riddell: I would have to creat a new patch with whatever ubuntu-sso-client does now and for that to get accepted I would have to sign the canonical contributor agreement thingy, which is something I am not particularly willing to do
[14:32] <Riddell> apachelogger: you're not talking about rekonq now are you?
[14:32] <apachelogger> ah
[14:32] <apachelogger> Riddell: ubuntuone :)
[14:32] <apachelogger> sry
[14:32] <Riddell> apachelogger: why does it need a new patch?
[14:33] <apachelogger> they reinvented the auth thing pretty much
[14:33] <Riddell> again?
[14:33] <apachelogger> yes
[14:33] <apachelogger> I did not look into it yet
[14:33] <apachelogger> supposedly I could also enhance my Qt implementation to support the dbus interface enhancements (if any)
[14:34] <apachelogger> last I heared the syncdaemon does not require a patch anymore
[14:36] <Riddell> why don't you want to sign the contributor agreement?
[14:37] <apachelogger> Riddell: I did not really find it reasonable (last I read it), neversfelde was not too keen on it either
[14:38] <apachelogger> from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SingleSignOn/UbuntuSsoClient it seems they reimplemented the thing completely -.-
[14:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: my bad, but when do we disable patches then?
[14:39] <Riddell> apachelogger: but i thought they had replaced ubuntu-auth with ubuntu-sso a while ago and you had handled it?
[14:39] <apachelogger> we dont
[14:39] <apachelogger> well
[14:39] <ofirk> Riddell: no, but I wish I could :)
[14:39] <apachelogger> when there is reason to have them hang around
[14:40] <apachelogger> liek they come from debian and would get merged at next merge
[14:40] <apachelogger> in such a case you would just comment out the entry so they will not get merged
[14:40] <apachelogger> Riddell: yes, but then they replaced ubuntu-sso-client with ubuntu-sso-client which implements a completely new approach
[14:41] <Riddell> ug
[14:41] <apachelogger> well, not completely new, just at a large scale in that it provides the ability to stack a GUI ontop of it
[14:41] <shadeslayer> so when we update a package -> new source has that patch -> patch was from debian -> comment it
[14:41] <apachelogger> and hence make the browser window obsolete
[14:41] <dantti_work> Riddell: and I have to provide a patch for aptcc to improve the package status while installing/downloading
[14:41] <apachelogger> so now when you start ubuntuone in maverick you will get a window asking you to provide your ubuntu SSO data *or* allows you to create a new account etc. etc.
[14:42] <shadeslayer> btw ill not be around starting tommorow till next friday, minor tests
[14:43] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw rekonq dev in #rekonq now :D
[14:43] <apachelogger> Riddell: at least they exposed the API for the GUI foo via dbus so other guis can be easily implemented (which they apparently did because I was whinign about their original concept)
[14:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: reported bug
[14:43] <shadeslayer> bug number
[14:43] <Riddell> apachelogger: seems a shame to have got so far and then get blocked at the last minute
[14:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: I need to try that new foo, we could deploy ubuntuone-kde and use ubuntu-sso-client (with the GTK interface)
[14:44] <apachelogger> of course that comes at the price of no KWallet integration
[14:47] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks for remembering backports in your kdegraphics fixing.
[14:49] <alvin> I second that
[14:52] <Riddell> ScottK: alas the security guy isn't awake to upload it to security
[15:00] <shadeslayer> whoa
[15:00] <shadeslayer> who uploaded all of KDE all over again? :P
[15:01] <ScottK> 4.5.1 tagging today, FYI.
[15:01] <ScottK> Riddell: Are we going to try to get 4.5.1 in before beta freeze?
[15:01] <Riddell> goodness no
[15:02] <dantti_work> Riddell: btw is there still time for the application installer? I'm planning to start coding it this week (tough I must also study for Qt Essentials exam)
[15:03] <Riddell> dantti_work: if it's the same Qt Essentials exam I did at Akademy you'll pass it without study
[15:03] <Riddell> dantti_work: final freeze is sep 16th so it's pushing it close
[15:03] <dantti_work> ScottK: hmm I have a kdelibs patch that would be good to go into 4.5.1 but none replied to me in k-c-d do know who should I poke?
[15:03] <ScottK> dantti_work: No idea.  I'd ask Riddell.
[15:03] <dantti_work> Riddell: k, I think it's enough time
[15:05] <dantti_work> Riddell: do you think dfaure could help reviewing the KCMultiDialog patch?
[15:06] <Riddell> dantti_work: I would expect so yes
[15:07] <dantti_work> k, thanks
[15:07] <Riddell> but he's not online today, maybe he's away
[15:07] <dantti_work> yes, I just found that out :P
[15:10] <rbelem> hey Riddell :-)
[15:11] <Riddell> hi rbelem 
[15:12] <rbelem> Riddell, did you have time to take a look on the seed? :-)
[15:12] <rbelem> hey apachelogger 
[15:13] <Riddell> rbelem: we need to wait until the package exists
[15:13] <Riddell> and it hasn't compiled yet https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings/10.10.0ubuntu1/+build/1933726
[15:13] <rbelem> ah ok :-)
[15:13] <rbelem> cool
[15:13] <rbelem> thanks Riddell ;-)
[15:25] <dantti_work> Riddell: I've just sent you a patch with all the changes since last upstream release of PK
[15:36] <ulysses> o.O, time to write the Kubuntu team's monthly report for august
[15:47] <debfx> Riddell: qtcreator package is ready: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/qtcreator_2.0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc
[15:47] <debfx> the private header files don't seem to be necessary anymore
[15:47] <Riddell> debfx: any new features?
[15:48] <debfx> Riddell: nope, just bug fixes
[15:48] <Riddell> groovy
[15:51] <ulysses> Riddell: KOffice 2.2.2 is in Maverick, right?
[15:55] <Riddell> ulysses: yes, that should get an upstream release today too
[15:55] <ulysses> Riddell: thanks
[15:59] <ulysses> Skeleton of the report for august ready: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReports
[16:02] <Riddell> lovely thanks ulysses 
[16:02] <nixternal> ScottK: did you get the email from jono that says, "I think you could be awesome on the board." ?
[16:03] <nixternal> how about anyone else under ~ubuntu-dev ^^
[16:03] <Riddell> not me
[16:04] <nixternal> hrmm, i figured he just mass emailed a group of devs because he used my @gmail.com addy and not @ubuntu/@kubuntu
[16:05] <nixternal> argh, gotta reboot this server...it is having some weird issue every few boots or so..brb
[16:05] <Riddell> anyone want to package the new kmess?
[16:10]  * ScottK guesses that reboot didn't go so well.
[16:13] <agateau> dantti_work: about your patches: you should try putting them on reviewboard.kde.org, you may get more people to look at them this way (but no warranty!)
[16:14] <ScottK> agateau: I hope you remember my kopete preferences problem.  I still have it and am hoping you can work on it ....
[16:16] <agateau> ScottK: when I looked at it, I couldn't reproduce it, that makes it difficult to fix :/
[16:16] <ScottK> agateau: So you get a scroll bar in the plugins page?
[16:16]  * agateau checks again
[16:16] <ScottK> nixternal: Yes.  I got it.
[16:17] <nixternal> figured...someone else had to have gotten it as well
[16:17] <nixternal> I love how impersonal he makes what should have been a personal email
[16:17] <ScottK> Mine was reasonably personalized.
[16:18] <ScottK> (I know you have some concerns ....)
[16:18] <ScottK> My response was something along the lines of "Since I think it will do more harm than good as currently defined, no."
[16:18] <agateau> ScottK: "good" news, I think I can reproduce it now
[16:19] <ScottK> agateau: That is good news.
[16:19] <agateau> Scott I have a scrollbar in the plugin page, but the dialog can't be shrinked to less than 640px tall
[16:19] <agateau> ScottK: ^
[16:20] <ScottK> Ah.  I have a 576 pixel screen on the netbook.
[16:20] <ScottK> So I suspect you're on the right track.
[16:20]  * apachelogger never gets invited to join boards :(
[16:20] <agateau> ScottK: ouch, iirc the minimum height from kde hig is 600px
[16:20]  * apachelogger clearly is too controversial ^^
[16:21] <agateau> ScottK: I suspect it's because of the webcam page
[16:21] <ScottK> agateau: 576 (or is it 578) is only used by a few netbooks.
[16:21] <agateau> ScottK: I agree, but the hig predates netbooks
[16:21] <ScottK> Right.
[16:21] <ScottK> So let's exceed the requirement slightly ....
[16:22] <nixternal> ScottK: you only made your's personalized with the response. plus i have kind of followed the talk on ubuntu-dev
[16:23] <apachelogger> rbelem: something about mobile reportworthy? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReports
[16:23] <agateau> ScottK: yes, it's because of the webcam page: I just rmmod'ed the webcam module and the page can now be reduced to an height of 540px
[16:23] <agateau> ScottK: can you check it's the same for you?
[16:24] <ScottK> I can.
[16:24] <rbelem> apachelogger, yep :-)
[16:24] <ScottK> Give me a moment to finish something I'm working on and I'll go find the netbook.
[16:24] <agateau> ok
[16:29] <apachelogger> Riddell: well, I am not sure where to go from here, supposedly we could include ubuntuone-kde and use the GTK authentication
[16:30] <Riddell> apachelogger: I think that would be reasonable, we should put a large "technology preview" or similar label on it anyway
[16:30] <apachelogger> *nod*
[16:32] <Riddell> dantti_work: what needs doing for debconf support?  simply install libdebconf-kde0 ?
[16:35] <Riddell> oh I see -DDEBCONF_SUPPORT
[16:39] <maco> apachelogger: i thought the gtk auth broke it?
[16:39] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[16:39] <apachelogger> owncloud ftw
[16:40] <Riddell> except owncloud requires you to set up your own server which is quite a different usecase than ubuntu one
[16:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: no one is keeping novell from setting up a owncloud and voila
[16:41] <Riddell> or better kubuntu-de.org, I hear they have server sponsorship :)
[16:41] <apachelogger> or opendesktop.org for that matter
[16:41] <Riddell> karli says he doesn't plan to do that
[16:42] <apachelogger> ic
[16:42] <nixternal> dropbox :p
[16:42] <apachelogger> hmmm
[16:42] <nixternal> i use it on kubuntu, my droid, my tv
[16:42] <nixternal> my windows box :p
[16:42] <nixternal> didn't want to say that one out loud
[16:43] <apachelogger> Riddell: looking at ubuntu-sso-cliennt, I think that is only like 5k sloc (of which most things will be silly class property code for json<->qobject) ;)
[16:44] <apachelogger> nixternal: owncloud you could have on your kubuntu ... that runs on your pc, your laptop, your netbook, your n950, your tv, your tablet ...
[16:44] <nixternal> dropbox still >
[16:44] <nixternal> android!!!
[16:44] <apachelogger> android is the sux
[16:44] <rbelem> apachelogger, may i add a section for mobile?
[16:44] <apachelogger> their nonexistant UI conformity enforcement is an insult ot my eyes
[16:44] <apachelogger> rbelem: please do so :)
[16:44] <nixternal> and the funny thing, my old boss from my last job has yet another linux dev job with cloud computing...so i might go back to work for him again just at a new shop
[16:45] <rbelem> apachelogger, cool! :-)
[16:45] <apachelogger> nixternal: http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341d3df553ef01156f3f1664970b-pi
[16:45] <rbelem> apachelogger, do i need to make any change to kubuntu-mobile-default-settings? :-)
[16:46] <apachelogger> rbelem: no, well, yes, just take what I uploaed and readd the bzr foo ... then create a bzr branch
[16:46] <apachelogger> ...or create te branch and then add the bzr foo...
[16:46] <rbelem> apachelogger, cool!
[16:47] <rbelem> thanks a lot apachelogger 
[16:47] <apachelogger> yw
[16:48] <Riddell> dantti_work: hmm, I can't get debconf to work
[16:49] <ScottK> agateau: I'm  on the netbook now.  I remembered the problem slightly wrong, so you are on the exact right problem.  I have a scrollbar for the plugin list, but the button to click OK is off the bottom of the screen.
[16:49] <nixternal> apachelogger: just got an email from Novell, re: "File storage maxed out? What would Dilbert do?"
[16:49] <nixternal> ruh roh
[16:50] <agateau> ScottK: ok, and is it "fixed" if you disable webcam support?
[16:50] <ScottK> agateau: How do I do that?
[16:50]  * ScottK is looking
[16:50] <agateau> ScottK: disable as in rmmod
[16:50] <ScottK> agateau: What do I rm?
[16:50] <agateau> ScottK: I did rmmod uvcvicdeo
[16:50] <agateau> uvcvideo*
[16:50] <ScottK> OK.
[16:50] <oxymoron> Does anyone know how to use Kspread in here?
[17:05] <rbelem> apachelogger, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/TeamReports/10/August
[17:05] <rbelem> apachelogger, is it ok? :-)
[17:06] <ScottK> agateau: Unfortnately after removing that module I still have video support, so no idea.
[17:07] <ScottK> agateau: It does sound like you are on the right track.
[17:09] <agateau> ScottK: what do you think of this new layout for the Kopete Video config? http://imagebin.ca/view/5472Bkn.htmlhttp://imagebin.ca/view/5472Bkn.html
[17:09] <ScottK> Looking
[17:10]  * agateau demoes patches personally today :)
[17:10] <ScottK> agateau: Very nice.  Ship it.
[17:10] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^  Would like to have this in.
[17:11]  * agateau generates a path
[17:11] <agateau> *patch
[17:12] <agateau> it's quite wide according to the hig, though (max is supposed to be 800px), but I guess it matters less these days
[17:14] <ScottK> How wide?
[17:14] <agateau> 939px here
[17:15] <agateau> ScottK:  I hope there is no netbook with less than 1024px out there
[17:17] <apachelogger> rbelem: too detailed I am afraid
[17:17] <apachelogger> rbelem: maybe just merge it into packaging as entry "Default settings package for kubuntu-mobile is now in the repository."
[17:18] <ScottK> agateau: 480 X 800 is the smallest I know of, but the 480 high screen systems generally have a way to "move" the screen around if it's too big.
[17:18] <ScottK> I think it's fine.
[17:18] <agateau> ScottK: ok
[17:19] <ScottK> agateau: Should probably see about updating the HIG too.
[17:20] <apachelogger> is it just me or are desktop effects horribly broken with intel?
[17:20] <rbelem> apachelogger, and the other comments? remove them?
[17:21] <apachelogger> rbelem: yeah, they all pretty much are about that great event of having proper defaults settings, are they not?
[17:21] <agateau> ScottK: I think I remember you filled a bug about this issue, but can't find it in my email, do you have the bug number?
[17:21]  * ScottK looks
[17:21] <rbelem> apachelogger, you are right :-)
[17:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: seems https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237732 would require rekonq to interact with plasma :P
[17:22] <shadeslayer> or am i wrong? :)
[17:23] <ScottK> agateau: Bug 614627
[17:23] <rbelem> apachelogger, done! :-)
[17:23] <agateau> ScottK: thanks
[17:23] <ScottK> agateau: Thank you for fixing.
[17:24] <shadeslayer> agateau: any idea if kopete will get video call using telepathy with gtalk accounts?
[17:24] <shadeslayer> afaik empathy does that 
[17:24] <agateau> shadeslayer: I have no idea :/
[17:24] <shadeslayer> :(
[17:24] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I doubt agateau would know.  He's just fixing a U/I issue.  He's not kdenetwork dev.
[17:25] <shadeslayer> oh....
[17:25] <apachelogger> rbelem: splendid
[17:27] <apachelogger> man
[17:27] <apachelogger> Riddell: that ubuntu-sso stuff segfaults on me
[17:27] <ScottK> apachelogger: It's secure then.
[17:27]  * apachelogger just lost motivatoin again
[17:28] <agateau> Riddell: should I assign you to the Kopete bug?
[17:29] <rbelem> :-D
[17:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 624081
[17:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: saw that , also poked yoann21 about it, lets see what he says
[17:31]  * shadeslayer also notes that we have qtcreator 2.0.1 release
[17:32] <Riddell> agateau: can do
[17:32] <Riddell> shadeslayer: just about to upload qtcreator
[17:32] <shadeslayer> Riddell: whee :)
[17:33] <shadeslayer> because im signing off for the next 10 days or so.. might be in and out ... but wont be able to do anything :P
[17:33] <agateau> Riddell: ok
[17:33] <shadeslayer> jefferai: im disconnecting the account, but dont delete it :P
[17:34] <shadeslayer> ciao everyone...
[17:34] <sheytan> ciao :D
[17:34]  * shadeslayer hits disconnect
[17:36]  * jefferai deletes
[17:36] <nigelb> haha
[17:37] <ari-tczew> apachelogger: I updated bug 533432. is it enough?
[17:43] <Riddell> ScottK: if you're milestoning bugs please tag with "kubuntu" so they appear in the tinyurl in the topic
[17:43] <ScottK> Riddell: OK.  Sorry.
[17:44] <ScottK> Fixed.
[18:00] <ari-tczew> Riddell: could you check whether are enough informations? bug 533432
[18:01] <Riddell> ari-tczew: you should check if it happens when running other KDE applications
[18:01] <Riddell> ari-tczew: does it happen suddenly or only when gnome is reloaded?
[18:01] <ari-tczew> Riddell: no. easiest example is konversation or kadu.
[18:01] <ari-tczew> only kolourpaint4
[18:01] <Riddell> also change the title to "kolourpaint4 breaks GNOME widget style"
[18:02] <ari-tczew> Riddell: always during edit image in kolourpaint
[18:06] <ari-tczew> Riddell: I'm affected by this bug since lucid :(
[18:30] <sheytan> http://demotywatory.pl/2026269/A-teraz  "Now daddy will play with me"  :D
[18:33] <JontheEchidna> lol
[18:36] <dantti_work> Riddell: I'm back, does debconf works now?
[18:37] <Riddell> dantti_work: nope
[18:37] <Riddell> dantti_work: do I need to do something to the packagekit backend?
[18:38] <dantti_work> Riddell: nope, the backend should just do it's magic, have you killed kpackagekitsmarticon after you recompiled?
[18:39] <Riddell> I have yes
[18:48] <Riddell> dantti_work: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kpackagekit.jpeg
[18:49] <dantti_work> hmm very weird
[18:49] <dantti_work> Riddell: do you /tmp has any socket files?
[18:50] <Riddell> dantti_work: yes
[18:50] <Riddell> kpk_debconf_6855 and a couple others
[18:52] <dantti_work> :(
[18:52] <dantti_work> aptcc is running ?
[18:53] <Riddell> dantti_work: how would I find that out?
[18:53] <dantti_work> PackageKit.conf defaultbackend
[18:54] <Riddell> umm, it just started working
[18:56] <Riddell> works for both aiccu and sun-java5-jr
[18:56] <Riddell> well that's annoying, you fiddle around for ages and then it suddenly starts working
[18:57] <Riddell> dantti_work: Debian logo in dialogue is a bit out of place, is that the default of libdebconf-kde?
[18:58] <dantti_work> Riddell: yes the default, it uses you system let me find wich file
[18:59] <dantti_work> Riddell: /usr/share/pixmaps/%1-logo.png
[18:59] <dantti_work> where %1 is the output of lsb_release -is
[19:00] <dantti_work> if it fails it tried debian-logo
[19:00] <dantti_work> drop a kubuntu logo there and it should be fine
[19:01] <dantti_work> Riddell: btw did you packages the last revision os debconf kde? otherwise if someone clicks on the X (of the window) it will be waiting there for ever
[19:03] <Riddell> I haven't pakcaged debconf-kde at all, that was JontheEchidna who did svn1160112 on Tue, 17 Aug 2010
[19:03] <Riddell> dantti_work: does it need to be newer than that?
[19:04] <JontheEchidna> (I should note that lsb_release identifies us as ubuntu, so that's no good)
[19:06] <dantti_work> well this is what gnome-debconf front end does
[19:06] <dantti_work> dunno what's is best then
[19:07] <ScottK> Alternatives should work.
[19:07] <dantti_work> Riddell: yes better repckage r1167177 has this fix
[19:08] <dantti_work> ScottK: which alternatives?
[19:09] <ScottK> update-alternatives
[19:10] <Riddell> ScottK: would you agree to a FFe which adds debconf support to kpackagekit?
[19:10] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes
[19:10] <Riddell> thought you might :)
[19:11] <dantti_work> well the feature was there :P but it wasn't working (a bug qdbusview had that made me think my code was good)
[19:12] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 624173 for your approval
[19:15] <ScottK> Done
[19:17] <Riddell> dantti_work: hmm, I spot a beastie http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kpackagekit1.jpeg
[19:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: ubuntu-sso-client is complete and utterly broken
[19:18] <apachelogger> currently does not even work in KDE
[19:18] <apachelogger> actually it currently segfaults
[19:19] <Riddell> apachelogger: fooey, a lost cause then I guess
[19:19]  * apachelogger is still fighting
[19:20] <apachelogger> Riddell: there is always the option of rewriting it again :P
[19:20]  * apachelogger does not get why they did not write the backend in C to begin with and only the frontend in python
[19:20] <apachelogger> that would not make me want to save my RAM from overly bloated python modules
[19:29] <dantti_work> Riddell: hmm that is supposed to be an icon( since I set it as the windowIcon)
[19:29] <dantti_work> don't you have the kubuntu gear icon?
[19:30] <Riddell> dantti_work: yes, can do
[19:33] <dantti_work> Riddell: does sun-java works now?
[19:33] <Riddell> dantti_work: yes
[19:34] <dantti_work> good :P
[19:37] <Riddell> dantti_work: I did as you suggested and only removed the update bits from the settings UI
[19:40] <dantti_work> Riddell: nice, imo a button next to the checkbox (show developemnt sources) labeled edit sources would be great
[20:12] <apachelogger> again i wrote a blog entry so incredibly long that I do not want to read it myself :P
[20:12]  * apachelogger fears he will have to edit it for two days before he can publish it
[20:13] <dantti_work> apachelogger: I do have this problem too :P
[20:13] <apachelogger> it is a terrible one
[20:14] <dantti_work> yes, you look at it and think who will want to read this :P
[20:42] <dantti_work> Riddell: have you applied the PK patch I sent to you by email?
[20:46] <Riddell> dantti_work: no I did a checkout of the svn
[20:46] <Riddell> and I don't think I have an e-mail from you
[20:47] <Riddell> oh, duh, we need a MIR for debconf-kde
[20:47] <dantti_work> MIR?
[20:48] <dantti_work> Riddell: no no, I sent you an email at ubuntu, because of some improvements/fixes in aptcc
[20:48] <apachelogger> at the rising of the moon, at the rising of the moon, for the pikes must be together at the rising of the moon
[20:48]  * apachelogger dances with Nightrose
[20:48] <dantti_work> but I have just found out with some debiand dudes that autoremove is a hated feature in aptitude
[20:49] <Nightrose> \o/
[20:49] <dantti_work> so I was thinking on changing aptcc to be like apt-get and don't do that by default
[20:49] <apachelogger> !mir
[20:49] <apachelogger> dantti_work:  ^
[20:49] <Riddell> dantti_work: no e-mail here, could you resend?
[20:49] <apachelogger> basically getting a package into main and on the CD
[20:50] <dantti_work> hmm  thanks apachelogger :)
[20:50] <dantti_work> Riddell: I can but don't you think this patch should include what I've just said?
[20:52] <Riddell> dantti_work: yes if possible, but beta freeze tomorrow so not really time for delay :)
[20:53] <dantti_work> Riddell: it's a one second  change :P
[20:54] <dantti_work> done :P
[20:56]  * apachelogger notes that this was more like a one minute change :P
[20:59] <dantti_work> apachelogger: yes, opening the files was longer than s/true/false :P
[20:59] <apachelogger> stupid files
[20:59] <dantti_work> hehe
[20:59] <apachelogger> there is whiskey in the jar...
[20:59] <dantti_work> Riddell: jriddell at buntu dot com?
[21:00] <apachelogger> you forgot the you
[21:00] <apachelogger> it is you bun too
[21:00] <dantti_work> hehe
[21:01] <dantti_work> Riddell: mail sent subject "PackageKit 0.6.8v2"
[21:04]  * sheytan likes rekonq so far :)
[21:05] <Riddell> ScottK: if I told you I got kdebindings compiled on arm would you kiss me?
[21:05] <ScottK> Riddell: Depends on where. 
[21:06] <ScottK> Sounds encouraging though.
[21:08] <Riddell> on where?  on arm!
[21:08] <JontheEchidna> ahaha
[21:08] <txwikinger> forl
[21:09] <txwikinger> rofl even
[21:09] <txwikinger> When will KDE support multi-touch screen ?
[21:10] <Riddell> sometime after Qt does
[21:10] <txwikinger> do I need to ask the next question?
[21:11] <txwikinger> How comes that Gnome has it already in Maverick?
[21:13] <Riddell> because some people were paid lots of money to develop it at a guess
[21:13] <txwikinger> hmm
[21:14]  * txwikinger needs to make a formal complaint! conference packs have 200 Ubuntu CDs and only 75 Kubuntu
[21:16] <JontheEchidna> popcon says that kubuntu/ubuntu ratio is 1/4 last time I checked, so that is better than expected :P
[21:17] <txwikinger> Well.. I had 1:1 demand on the last conference
[21:17] <Riddell> yeah that's better odds than what the locos tend to get
[21:18] <Riddell> I can order you kubuntu CDs if needed
[21:18] <txwikinger> Riddell: let me first order and see if there is something I don't get.. if so, I appreciate your offer
[22:01] <yofel> any way one can make the 'hibernate' button in the power management applet and the menu disappear when no swap is available?
[22:25] <dantti_work> yofel: I don't making the button disapear is a good idea but surelly fail with a message box explaning why you can't hibernate is better would be great :)
[22:25] <dantti_work> *don't think
[22:31] <yofel> dantti_work: agreed, currently it actually tries to suspend to disk, notices that it can't and leaves you reisub as only sane reboot method :( not very nice considering the settings button is incredibly small and hibernate is right next to it :/
[22:32] <dantti_work> yofel: try filling a bug against it (if there isn't one already)
[22:35] <ScottK> File it on bugs.kde.org though. It's an upstream issue.
[22:35] <yofel> k
[22:41] <apachelogger> time progresses too fast
[23:05] <Riddell> dantti_work: I still didn't get your e-mail, can you try sending to jr@ muse.19inch.net
[23:06] <dantti_work> Riddell: sure :)
[23:07] <Riddell> rbelem: seed changed, kubuntu-meta uploaded
[23:17] <rbelem> Riddell, cool! :-D
[23:20] <Riddell> rbelem: now you just need to convince someone to get the CD build scripts producing kubuntu-mobile images
[23:21] <Riddell> dantti_work: hmm, are you sure you're sending this e-mail at all?
[23:21] <Riddell> dantti_work: try riddell @gmail.com
[23:22] <rbelem> ehehe
[23:22] <dantti_work> Riddell: sorry, I was commiting a patch to kdelibs, but I'm sure I sent this twice, let me try again
[23:22] <rbelem> Riddell, i think that persia will enable the images
[23:23] <dantti_work> Riddell: sent to both emails
[23:23] <rbelem> Riddell, and tgall_foo will enable it on linaro
[23:23] <dantti_work> Riddell: oh no wait :P
[23:23] <Riddell> dantti_work: got it now
[23:23] <dantti_work> sent the wrong file :P
[23:24] <Riddell> oops 
[23:25] <dantti_work> Riddell: ok, now the v3 right one :P
[23:26] <dantti_work> Riddell: I've fixed debconf-kde to delete the socket files, and kpk to delete debconf-kde objects, but can go in next packaging if you don't care :P
[23:29] <Riddell> dantti_work: what are debconf-kde objects?
[23:30] <Riddell> dantti_work: send me the patch and I'll get it in
[23:30] <Riddell> dantti_work: why do we want the packagekit patch?
[23:30] <dantti_work> Riddell: the libdebconf-kde objects are the ones that handle debconf to show the dialog, to deleting them makes the socket on /tmp disapear
[23:31] <dantti_work> Riddell: the packagekit patch that I've send you by mail has the "changelog" in the email some fixes/improvements
[23:31] <dantti_work> Riddell: you can fetch kpk and libdebconf-kde from svn I commited both a while ago
[23:32] <dantti_work> it's just a small fix, it this will give you too much work, then just apply the one I sent to you by email
[23:33] <Quintasan_Droid> Greetings from Carpentras, Frace
[23:33] <Quintasan_Droid> France*
[23:38] <Riddell> salut Quintasan_Droid 
[23:39] <ari-tczew> Quintasan_Droid: holidays?
[23:39] <Quintasan_Droid> ari-tczew: nah, attending a wedding ceremony
[23:40] <Quintasan_Droid> Though it takes place at Saturday
[23:40] <Quintasan_Droid> Riddell: well, applying for sponsorship
[23:41] <ari-tczew> Quintasan_Droid: are you getting maried? :P
[23:41] <Quintasan_Droid> Not me, some distant (to me at least)relative is getting married
[23:42] <Quintasan_Droid> TBH I'm here just for food :P
[23:45] <Quintasan_Droid> Riddell: what about that Polish blog ? Dunno if I mentioned it but she is kde-i18n-pl cooridnator
[23:47] <Riddell> Quintasan_Droid: yes thanks, it's quite fiddly adding a new feed class so it'll need to wait until I'm not doing a million things
[23:48] <Quintasan_Droid> Riddell: Oh, well, good luck. I consider doing million things a daily basis
[23:49] <Quintasan_Droid> :)
[23:50] <Riddell> which is why it took so long to get different feedclasses on there at all
[23:59] <Riddell> dantti_work: do you know if the configure.ac part of that patch is needed in packagekit?  it's causing autoconf to do autoconf things