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Enfewhi Guys02:28
Enfewi need some help02:28
Enfewi;m new ubuntu user02:29
Enfewusing on windows with wubi as ntfs partition,02:29
Enfewi;m getting low disk space warnings02:29
Enfewis it really worth to format the partion and and install on 30gb new partion with full installation?02:31
meindian523Enfew, it is possible to move an existing Ubuntu installation to its own partition02:33
meindian523without havingto format the disk02:33
Enfewis this regarding to my question or you are asking me new question?02:34
meindian523There's a HOWTO in the Tutorials and Tips section for that02:34
meindian523Enfew, answering your question02:34
Enfewok,02:34
meindian523assuming you DO want Windows still as a dual boot option02:34
Enfewah, you said it is possibel ,and i read "is it possible.02:35
Enfewlol, sory,02:35
meindian523np02:35
Enfewyes, i want win7 as dualboot02:35
Enfewthe f drive is around 32 gb02:35
Enfewand formatted in ntfs02:35
meindian523check out the Tutorials and Tips section on Ubuntu Forums02:36
Enfewok, i just joined ubuntu forums02:36
Enfewi'm checking now02:36
meindian523It has to do with LVM etc,I don't even know the procedure02:36
Enfewi read somewhere that LVM is not compatible to 10.0402:37
Enfewtell me something02:37
meindian523I installed right onto disk from first experimentwith Linux02:37
Enfewhave you used on with wubi?02:37
meindian523nope, installed Wubi once02:38
meindian523at the time I had a functioning Ubuntu installation on disk too02:38
Enfewwhat i want to know is that, is it worth to migrate from wubi to installation?02:38
meindian523so didn't play around with it much02:38
meindian523I would say yes02:39
Enfewbecause i dont want to waste so much time because i dont have02:39
Enfewi do work 13 hrs on pc02:39
Enfewbut i'm a fulltime freelancer02:39
meindian523the performance benefits of native fs will,IMO,02:40
meindian523make it worth the while02:40
Enfewand i dont want to waste alot of time..02:40
Enfewbut i'm really loving ubuntu02:40
meindian523but you could ask others withmore experience02:40
Enfewbtw, what you do?02:40
Enfewi'm indian too :)02:40
meindian523grad student in Elec Engg02:41
meindian523:)02:41
Enfewwhere is Elec Engg?02:41
Enfewlol02:41
meindian523ElectricalEnggineering02:41
Enfewi know,02:41
Enfewi was talking to somebody else, and i thought ......02:42
paultagEnfew: you can't migrate wubi with much luck02:42
meindian523typing with one hand, specially non-dominant hand, while having dinner, is pretty difficult02:42
Enfewah, i do that too.02:42
paultagEnfew: it's very hard because it does some funny things to get it to play with the windows mbr02:42
Enfewtyping with one hand,02:42
paultagerm, bootloader02:42
paultagnot mbr02:42
paultagsorry, I'm tired02:42
collinpUn-tired yourself.02:43
Enfewpaul, i can format this F drive again,02:43
meindian523Enfew, listen to paultag,he's got far more exp/knowledge02:43
Enfewand  install fresh02:43
paultagEnfew: that would be the way to go, just remember to back up the home directory. If you are installing the same distro version number, make a tar gunzip of the /home/ dir and extract it once you install02:43
paultagcollinp: NO WAI02:43
Enfewi will format and install ubuntu from usb, will that work?02:44
paultagEnfew: it's a bit messy, but wubi was made to be a gateway drug, just get you hooked enough02:44
paultagEnfew: yessir, yes it will02:44
Enfewalso,02:44
meindian523but make sure to use the same username:password as your Wubi install02:44
paultagmeindian523: that does not matter :P02:44
Enfewi have downloaded iso, but checksum is differnet02:44
paultagmeindian523: just the username02:44
meindian523ah02:44
paultagEnfew: Oh shoot, that's not good02:44
paultagEnfew: Have you tried re-downloading again?02:45
* meindian523 used same password too,just to be safe02:45
Enfewthen, i downloaded on windows from online installer,02:45
paultagEnfew: and if so, do the two downloaded files have matching MD5's?02:45
meindian523Enfew, use torrent02:45
Enfewno, i havent tried downloading two isos02:45
paultagOK02:46
paultagEnfew: Where did you download it from?02:46
paultagEnfew: was it from the Ubuntu site?02:46
Enfewubuntu's main server02:46
Enfewyep,.02:46
Enfewwhat i want to know is downloading from torrent will work?02:46
paultagEnfew: I'd just use it, the chance of it actually being corrupt or comprimised is pretty slim02:46
paultagEnfew: just be sure to update / upgrade as soon as it installs02:47
meindian523Enfew, yes, and it won't have any errors02:47
aveilleuxEnfew, if you02:47
aveilleuxre really concerned, you can use the on-disc check*02:47
paultag+1 aveilleux02:47
aveilleuxDarn Enter key02:47
paultagEnfew: aveilleux is right, I'd do that02:47
meindian523+202:47
Enfewbut i dont have time to check so many stuff,02:48
Enfewbecause i'm full time freelancer,02:48
paultagEnfew: it's a very quick test02:48
aveilleuxEnfew: Because it checks the files, rather than the entire disc, for consistency02:48
meindian523+102:48
paultagEnfew: this install won't take more then an hour02:48
meindian523+202:48
Enfewso how did i check it?02:48
paultagEnfew: it will present you with a menu, just select the test option and hit enter02:48
Enfewhow can i perform why dont i just ?02:48
paultagEnfew: after it will boot as normal02:48
meindian523boot with the CD in the CDROM drive and ^^02:48
paultagmeindian523: usb *02:49
meindian523ah, right02:49
aveilleuxEnfew: On the Desktop edition, when the little icons at the bottom of the screen appear (the little man and the keyboard), hit any key and you will be presented with a menu02:49
meindian523boot with the pendrive in the USB port and ^^02:49
aveilleuxEnfew: One of those options is to check the disc02:49
Enfewok, great02:49
Enfewjust thought i'd let you guys know,02:49
paultagEnfew: do you have a copy of it's md5sum?02:50
EnfewThat i tried 5 - 6 times installing on pc, and 2 times as full installation,02:50
Enfewi didnt worked,02:50
paultagHumm02:50
paultagEnfew: Why?02:50
paultag( do you know? )02:50
Enfewplus i installed this windows tool for checking checksum of ubuntu02:50
paultagwindows ftl02:50
Enfewit says i have differnet checksum02:51
paultaguse md5sum <file>02:51
Enfewwhen i searched on internet,  i saw that redownloading will solve the isssue,02:51
Enfewuse md5sum <file>?02:52
paultag`md5sum' is a command under most GNU/Linux operating systems02:52
Enfewis there any way i can just download md5sum file and replace with in that iso?02:52
meindian523Enfew, md5sum is a number,not a file02:53
paultagEnfew: the MD5 sum is like addition, let's say the file looks like: "0001 0100 0001", one sum of a basic algorithm would be 010102:54
paultagmeindian523: and if you change the numbers ( data ) in the file, the sum will change02:54
* meindian523 keeps forgetting that paultag is available02:54
paultagerm Enfew *02:54
paultagmeindian523: :P02:54
meindian523:)02:54
Enfewyes, i encrypt stuff right?02:54
paultagEnfew: So, the "checksum" is how you can "check" the file by it's "sum"02:54
paultagEnfew: you can use it for basic encryption, but it should not be used that way :)02:54
paultagEnfew: it's a one-way hash02:55
Enfewi mean it encrypt the md5sum into some file02:55
Enfewok,02:55
Enfewthanks,02:55
paultagEnfew: nosir, you can't put the MD5 sum of a file into the file it's self02:55
Enfewso i cant use any file?02:55
meindian523nope02:55
paultagEnfew: because you can't know the md5 sum until you add up the file, and if you don't know the part of the file, you don't know the sum ( recursion )02:55
Enfewok, i got the meaning of md502:55
paultagEnfew: are you sure?02:56
* meindian523 wonders the same02:56
Enfewi use it in mysql db02:56
paultagEnfew: because you use it does not mean you know how it works02:56
paultagEnfew: but that's fine, we can move on02:56
Enfewyes,02:56
Enfewgive me a sec,02:57
paultagI'm a patiant guy, I'll give you two02:57
meindian523:)02:57
meindian523lol02:57
paultag:P02:57
Enfewhere,02:57
Enfewhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes02:57
* meindian523 goes to clean up the dishes02:57
meindian523exactly, is what I think paultag will say now02:58
paultagexactly02:58
Enfewd044a2a0c8103fc3e5b7e18b0f7de1c8   ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso02:58
Enfewis mine02:58
paultagEnfew: what's your sum?02:58
Enfewso, i want to know that all ubuntu has same md5?02:58
paultagwait, what?02:59
paultagEnfew: I think you're still not getting the point of md5 checksums02:59
aveilleuxEnfew: Ubuntu's md5sums are published02:59
meindian523ok that md5 checked out02:59
Enfewi checked sum from windows, and rightnow i'm on ubuntu,02:59
paultagEnfew: can you please furnish the md5sum of the iso?03:00
paultagEnfew: it would help us greatly :)03:00
meindian523Enfew, did you get that md5 from the page, or did you get it fromthe md5sum <path to iso file>03:00
Enfewi get from ubuntu page,03:00
paultag+1, also make sure it's base 1603:00
paultagand not base 6403:00
Enfewok, you want to know my md5 ?03:01
paultagEnfew: yes, please03:01
Enfewhow can i check it?03:01
Enfewi really appreciate your help, :)03:01
Enfewthanks paul, and indian52303:01
paultagEnfew: sure. Where's the ISO file located?03:01
paultagEnfew: It's no problem. It's what we're here for03:02
Enfewaveillux too,.03:02
paultagEnfew: I'm guessing it's on the Windows drive?03:02
Enfewiso is located in e: user > myname > downloads03:02
Enfewyes,03:02
paultagEnfew: cd /host/user/myname/downloads ( might need to make sure the case is corrent, that matters )03:03
paultagEnfew: providing you're in Wubi, of course03:03
Enfewand what about cd  /host <?03:04
Enfewc: ?03:04
Enfewi mean e ?03:04
paultaghum?03:04
paultagEnfew: try doing this for me:03:04
Enfewwhat should i type to go in the specific partion?03:04
paultagEnfew: nautilus /host03:04
Enfewwait a sec,03:05
paultagEnfew: you should not have to, not yet. You might have to if it did something funny03:05
paultagEnfew: but let's try the easy way first03:05
Enfewi will reboot on win703:05
Enfewand then tell you guys03:05
Enfewthanks again03:05
paultagEnfew: OK03:05
paultagEnfew: sure, we'll be waiting03:05
paultagheyya jgoguen, long time no see03:06
paultagjgoguen: you're missing over in -team03:06
jgoguenpaultag: Lies! I'm there :)03:06
paultagoh noes!03:06
Enfewany one please email me http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-beginners url to wordpressexpert@live.com03:06
Enfewbecause i dont know what url will be on win7.03:07
Enfewthanks :)03:07
meindian523uh, the same URL?03:07
aveilleuxWhat03:07
Enfewyep,03:07
Enfewi'm on ubuntu03:07
paultagEnfew: do this03:07
paultagEnfew: echo "nautilus /host03:07
aveilleuxmeindian523: I think they mean that they won't remember03:07
paultagShoot!03:07
paultagEnfew: echo "http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-beginners" > /host/webchat.txt03:07
paultagEnfew: then it will be under C:\webchat.txt03:08
Enfewok, let me get my hands dirty with this command03:08
Enfewlol03:08
paultag:)03:08
Enfewback03:14
paultagheyya Enfew, welcome back03:16
Enfewlet me check the md503:16
Enfew25c45fba580067db42a0e975bfb1def903:20
Enfewis my md503:20
paultaghumm03:20
paultagyeah, that's wrong03:20
Enfewaccording to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes03:20
paultagEnfew: I'd redownload it03:20
Enfewi should be d044a2a0c8103fc3e5b7e18b0f7de1c8 ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso03:20
Enfewok,03:21
Enfewlets say i download torrent03:21
Enfewand i open iso with rar03:21
Enfewthen get the checksum03:21
Enfewand use in this package03:21
Enfewwill that work?03:21
paultagEnfew: I still think you don't know what an md5sum is03:22
Enfewlol. yes03:22
Enfewi dont actually,03:22
Enfewso every package has different md5 or something?03:22
paultagOK, let's start from scratch03:23
paultagbare basics03:23
Enfewok03:23
paultagLet's use TCP/IP checksums03:23
paultagthey're easy03:23
Enfewok,03:23
EnfewTcp/ip,03:23
Enfewlol nothing03:24
Enfewcontinue03:24
paultagLet's say you want to send two bits over the line, how do you make sure that they were transmitted without a 0 turning to a 1 Enfew ?03:24
Enfewnothing,03:24
Enfewplease countinue.03:24
wambirihi all03:24
paultagSo, let's say you want to send two bytes "00100110" and "01110101"03:24
paultag0010011003:25
aveilleuxHello wambiri, what can we do for you03:25
paultag0111010103:25
paultag--------03:25
Enfewok03:25
paultagthe checksum is 1001101103:25
wambirianyone know of any movement on the fglrx driver issues with maverick?03:25
paultagEnfew: ( add up the two using the one's complement )03:25
wambirimy lynx is popping up a udev error when it tries to boot03:26
paultagEnfew: so that the only way that that number is right is if those two bytes were sent without transmission error03:26
wambirii (foolishly) upgraded to maverick last night03:26
paultagEnfew: That works fine for small numbers, but not large files03:26
wambirii'm making progress on the forums though03:27
paultagEnfew: md5 and sha hases work really well with large dataset to produce a unique hash fingerprint for a set of 0's and 1's03:27
Enfewumm... interesting,03:27
paultagEnfew: the way you're using md5 sums in a DB is you are doing that "checksum" on a string, and comparing that. It makes it so you can store the PW in the DB without storing the plaintext pw03:27
paultagEnfew: but instead of a string, you're giving it the whole file03:28
paultagEnfew: so that md5 is like your mysql db, it just makes sure the password ( iso file ) was transmitted correctly03:28
Enfewgot it,03:28
Enfewthanks,03:28
Enfewalso,03:28
paultagEnfew: so you see, you can't put that md5 sum into the file03:28
paultagEnfew: or the md5sum will change ;)03:28
paultagjust the md5 of "sister" files03:29
meindian523for that matter, you couldn't insert a single byte into the file,because the md5 would change03:29
paultagmeindian523: right, for instance a virus ;)03:29
meindian523yep03:30
Enfewok, i would like to ask you guys another question,03:33
Enfewfor how long you guys are using ubuntu?03:33
paultagEnfew: since 200103:33
aveilleuxEnfew: Rougly five years now03:33
Enfewhave you used windows7?03:34
paultagEnfew: no03:34
aveilleuxpaultag: Ubuntu was initially released in 2004 <_<03:34
meindian523since 2006 here03:34
aveilleuxEnfew: I have, yes03:34
paultagaveilleux: Oh shucks, I thought he said Linux03:34
* meindian523 has not03:34
paultagsee what you want to see03:34
paultagsince 2007, then03:34
aveilleuxpaultag: Hehe03:34
Enfewpaultag: what you do?03:35
paultagEnfew: I'm a Software Engineer03:35
paultagI write code, bitches.03:35
Enfewok, but what exactly?03:35
Enfewi mean your work is around linux?03:36
Enfewlinux is something that you cant work with?03:36
paultagEnfew: I'm doing research these days. I only use Free Software in my work.03:36
jgoguenpaultag: Can I come work with you? :)03:36
paultagEnfew: decentralized algorithms, mostly03:37
paultagjgoguen: sure :)03:37
meindian523paultag, can I get some research guidance?03:37
Enfewwhat i want to know that, is it worth switching to ubuntu03:37
paultagmeindian523: sure03:37
paultagEnfew: I'm biased.03:37
Enfewi'm using windows from 4 - 5 years03:37
jgoguenEnfew: Most likely, yes it is :)03:38
meindian523so is everyone in this channel03:38
Enfewi have the latest win703:38
paultagsorry to hear that03:38
jgoguenCondolences03:38
Enfewi'm not saying win7 is bad, or linux is good03:38
Enfewi'm saying is both has its pros and cons03:38
Enfewi have 15 email accounts configured with email client, so many stuff,03:39
Enfewi work on php, html, css stuff03:39
Enfewi have so many client files03:39
Enfewand stuff03:39
Enfewyou know what i'm saying03:39
jgoguenEnfew: Everything has pros and cons, any change will require some effort. Part of answering your question will be asking what tools you need and what the best tool for the job really is.03:39
meindian523Enfew, back up to external,restore when done03:40
Enfewrightnow, i like both os, in win7 i have bunch of stuff, and in ubuntu, i have to start from begining.03:40
meindian523but if you need Windows only applications03:40
meindian523stick with Windows03:41
jgoguenEnfew: I'm a system administrator and web developer, I have to work with people using Windows and Mac, Photoshop, MS Office, and various other things, and I use Free Software to do it all03:41
meindian523specially if it'll affect your work03:41
Enfewi tried gimp as alternative to photoshop03:41
Enfewbut i did not work03:41
Enfewi think you guys have experience when you have to format your pc when you dont want to,03:42
Enfewand then it takes few days to get back on normal track03:42
Enfewbut here, in this case,03:42
jgoguenAs I'm sure you've noticed Gimp and Photoshop work completely differently :) I believe that anything you can do in Photoshop can be done in Gimp, but I guarantee you'll need to learn all of the advanced Photoshop stuff again to do the same stuff in Gimp.03:42
EnfewI can use everything i have, or i have to do it from begining03:43
Enfewjgojuen: thats what i'm saying, i dont have time to learn, because i have pending work of clients to complete03:43
meindian523boss dekho03:43
Enfewso should i switch to ubuntu?03:44
meindian523tumhare paas do machine hai?03:44
Enfewyep,03:44
Enfewbut the other is not mine.03:44
meindian523to production machine ko haath mat lagana03:44
Enfewyep, yahi to mai sooch raha hu03:44
meindian523khudke machine par seekhne ke baad poora kaam migrate karo03:44
meindian523acchasocha,ab implement karo03:45
Enfewi'm planning to buy new laptop, but i was thinking to install osx on that, but now hackintosh never works great03:45
Enfewso i think i will install and play with linux on that laptop03:46
jgoguenEnfew: Since you have so many things that depend on things working just as you know them now, you should gently move over. Start with Windows-based Free Software and go from there.03:46
Enfewok, another thing, i would like to ask03:46
jgoguenEnfew: You can download Gimp for Windows, Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice, and many other Free Software applications for Windows03:46
Enfewthanks a lot guys, i really appreciate your help.03:47
Enfewhave anyone hosted any website from his/her own pc?03:47
jgoguenI have03:48
Enfewdo i have to open my pc for 24 hrs?03:48
seidosEnfew, you don't have to, but the site won't be up when your computer isn't on.03:49
jgoguenEnfew: That's basically it...your site is only accessible while the PC is on.03:49
Enfewyes,03:49
Enfewi know some guys who host their site from homepc03:50
jgoguenEnfew: If that's OK, like if it's a test site for work, then you can just shut down at the end of the day like usual. But if you want it accessible 24/7 then your PC must be on 24/7.03:50
Enfewso constant 7 days will not affect on my pc?03:51
meindian523Enfew, plus you need a static IP from BSNL03:51
Enfewstatic IP? how?03:52
Enfewwill my ip work?03:52
jgoguenmeindian523: Or a service like DynDNS03:52
meindian523jgoguen, possibly03:52
meindian523how, I do not know03:52
jgoguenEnfew: Well it will, hard drives will eventually fail and the more a computer is on the sooner the drive will fail, but depending on how long you plan to go before replacing the computer that may not be an issue for you.03:52
Enfewok, so dyndns will work with it right?03:53
* meindian523 wonders how that works,goes off for a bit of research03:54
jgoguenEnfew: I've had a laptop for over 3 years, it spent the better part of that time acting as a web server, DB server, mail server and SVN server and I still use that laptop today without any problems.03:54
jgoguenEnfew: DynDNS should be fine as long as your IP doesn't change very frequently and you set up one of their clients to auto-update your dynamic hostname03:54
Enfewbtw, DynDNS  have any limitations like you cant use more than bla bla hrs?03:55
Enfewor queries or something?03:55
jgoguenThey have update limits, but it's something crazy like many updates per day for the same machine. I think it's no more than one IP change every half hour per machine03:55
Enfewi will install on my pc, and host for 12 hrs day,03:56
Enfewlets say site is getting so many visits, it will not exceed dyndns limitations ?03:57
jgoguenNo, the only issue comes if your IP address changes insanely fast03:58
Enfewok, and that happens if i host site from different pc right?03:59
jgoguenEnfew: Not necessarily. If you disconnect and wait a while you'll probably have a different IP address on the same machine.04:02
Enfewok, so constant 5 hrs are good right?04:02
jgoguenEnfew: Well like I said, their limit is once every half hour04:03
Enfewthanks a lot for the help.04:03
Enfewbtw, what you do?04:03
jgoguenEnfew: I'm a system administrator and web/software developer04:04
Enfewdo you have any website, blogS?04:06
jgoguenhttp://www.jgoguen.ca/04:07
Enfewnice.04:08
Enfewthanks a lot for the help04:08
jgoguenNo problem04:08
Enfewbtw, i blog at http://enfew.com04:09
Enfeware you fimilar with win registry?04:10
jgoguenI know enough to be dangerous and to do the odd virus cleanup, but I refuse to provide any assistance on any Registry unless the computer is physically in front of me04:11
seidosEnfew, what do you blog about?04:11
Enfewwordpress, php, codeigniter, cakephp, and web dev stuff04:12
Enfewi'm a wordpress freelancer :)04:13
Enfewseidos, what you do??04:13
Enfewi just got all my answers from this guys,04:14
Enfewthey are really helpful.04:14
seidosEnfew, whatever I can04:14
Enfewlike what?04:14
seidosEnfew, I enjoy writing and philosophizing the most.  Computers are a hobby of mine.  I am learning php actually.04:15
jgoguenWell it's time for me to get to bed. Enfew, best of luck with your journey to Ubuntu.04:15
Enfewok, thanks Joel for the help04:16
Enfewphilosophizing > i enjoy too :)04:16
Enfewwhat are your websites?04:18
seidosI have a domain, but the website is down04:21
Enfewok,04:21
Enfewi gottta go,04:21
seidosbut I have a blog on blogspot http://redplanetaryearth.blogspot.com04:21
seidossee ya'04:21
EnfewTakecare04:21
seidosyou too04:21
Enfewgreat, i will check the blog04:22
Enfewthanks a lot for all the guys in here04:22
Enfewand takecare seidos04:22
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tenachAnyone use talk/talkd/ntalk ?05:41
jacknifehello has anybody successfully to install 10.04 server from usb thumb drive?08:57
jacknifewhen I tried to do it, grub got install on USB thumb drive not on the Hardrive08:57
jacknife???09:02
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THE_TABEhi14:16
Mohan_chmlTHE_TABE: Hello14:18
THE_TABEthis is kind of off topic...14:33
THE_TABEbut does anybody know anything about setting up a Subsonic server in Debian?14:34
THE_TABEor know if there's an irc channel for Subsonic?14:34
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duanedesignTHE_TABE: i have never tried to set up Subsonic14:47
duanedesignTHE_TABE: seems fairly straight forward. http://www.activeobjects.no/subsonic/forum/viewtopic.php?t=148614:50
duanedesignif you get a jjava error when you run the .sh file see this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6460821&postcount=214:50
THE_TABEwell, i actually have it up and running. i can stream music to my android app but i cannot play any music from the web interface14:52
duanedesignTHE_TABE: ahhh, then my links are useless :)15:25
boywonderhi, if i log in a su, how do i log out?16:42
geirhaYou ran  su user   or  su - user ?  If so, just exit the shell with the exit command or by hitting ctrl+d16:44
boywonderhey thanks16:52
Mohan_chmlohai AndrewMC (:17:32
sebsebsebHi17:47
Mohan_chmlohai sebsebseb17:48
sebsebsebMohan_chml: hi17:48
Mohan_chmlheya Silver_Fox_ (:17:48
Mohan_chmlwhats up sebsebseb ?17:48
Silver_Fox_Hello Mohan_chml17:48
Silver_Fox_Hello sebsebseb17:48
Mohan_chmlSilver_Fox_: busy all day?17:48
Silver_Fox_I very often am busy Mohan_chml . Why do you enquire?17:49
Mohan_chmlYou was not here for the past 7 hours and so I enquired Silver_Fox_ and what about your project?17:50
Silver_Fox_My project has hit a speed bump. I am attempting to resolve an issue with gksu.17:50
Mohan_chmlawww... good luck with it Silver_Fox_ (:17:51
Silver_Fox_Thank you.  gksu runs,  but the command afterwards does not run. It is annoying.17:51
Silver_Fox_How are you Mohan_chml  ?17:51
Mohan_chmlI am getting better Silver_Fox_. ty (:17:52
Silver_Fox_You have been ill?17:52
sebsebsebSilver_Fox_: Hi17:52
Mohan_chmlSilver_Fox_: I met up with an accident and my left side head and hand got injuries17:53
Silver_Fox_What happened Mohan_chml ?  :(17:54
Silver_Fox_How are you sebsebseb17:54
sebsebsebSilver_Fox_: ok17:55
Mohan_chmlSilver_Fox_: nothing much. My hand will be ready to smack anyone in a week ;)17:55
Silver_Fox_I have to go. Goodbye.18:05
Silver_Fox_I am glad your hand is getting better Mohan_chml18:05
THE_TABEok, can i ask Tomcat 5.5 questions here?18:34
paultagTHE_TABE: sure, JSP JSF or what18:34
paultagTHE_TABE: I take that back, I hate tomcat and don't remember how to use it18:35
paultagTHE_TABE: but I'll still try18:35
THE_TABELOL18:35
THE_TABEwell, i installed Tomcat yesterday18:35
paultag:)18:35
THE_TABEon Debian18:35
THE_TABEI was able to login to the admin/manager pages18:36
THE_TABEbut after a computer reboot I can't get to it anymore18:36
paultagTHE_TABE: is it running?18:36
THE_TABEpretty sure18:36
THE_TABEi'll double check18:36
paultagTHE_TABE: do you have apache2 installed ( or anything else that binds to :80 )?18:37
THE_TABEI just get a white page when I do http://localhost:8180/admin18:37
paultagHummmm18:37
paultagOh so you're not even binding to 8018:37
THE_TABEsays already running18:37
THE_TABEno, not binding to 8018:37
THE_TABEyet18:37
paultagTHE_TABE: anything in the headers?18:37
paultagTHE_TABE: or page source18:37
THE_TABEthat was gonna be the next thing i did!18:37
THE_TABEin the headers?18:37
paultagTHE_TABE: yuppers18:38
THE_TABEok i'm kinda noob so i don't know what you mean18:38
paultagOK, np. use curl -i18:38
paultagTHE_TABE: `curl -i http://localhost:8180/admin'18:38
THE_TABEcommand not found18:39
paultagTHE_TABE: sudo apt-get install curl18:40
THE_TABEHTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily18:40
THE_TABEServer: Apache-Coyote/1.118:40
THE_TABELocation: http://localhost:8180/admin/18:40
THE_TABETransfer-Encoding: chunked18:40
THE_TABEDate: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:41:01 GMT18:40
paultaghurmmm18:41
paultag13:40:57 < THE_TABE> HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily18:41
paultagthat's interesting18:41
THE_TABEyeah18:41
THE_TABEwhat's that18:41
THE_TABElol18:41
paultaglooks like a redirect18:41
paultagto http://localhost:8180/admin/18:41
paultagwhich is the page you were on18:41
paultagTHE_TABE: are you sure you auth'd right?18:41
THE_TABEno i'm not sure18:42
THE_TABEdon't know what's changed since it worked yesterday, besides a reboot18:42
paultagTHE_TABE: humm, try restarting the server and going to the admin page again18:42
THE_TABEokay18:42
THE_TABEjeesh, takes forever to stop it18:47
THE_TABEwait, you talking about restarting tomcat or the actual machine?18:47
paultagTHE_TABE: tomcat18:48
THE_TABEsame thing after restart18:51
THE_TABEwhen i try http://localhost:8180/manager/html  I get some java.lang.NullPointerException error18:54
itsmeena?18:59
itsmeena!18:59
itsmeenahelp18:59
itsmeenaany one to respond ?18:59
itsmeenaHello18:59
itsmeena /HELPOP USERCMDS19:04
malevhello19:48
malevduanedesign: are you arroung?19:48
n8ofsp8dshey i need help i keep getting this messenge im trying use dvd drive for this program21:02
n8ofsp8dsFor Unix based operating systems: Devices are files!21:02
n8ofsp8dsSelect "File(s)" as Input and enter the device name.21:02
n8ofsp8dsLinux Example: /dev/cdrom (requires read permissions).21:02
n8ofsp8dsWrites are automatically disabled for block devices.21:02
n8ofsp8dsim trying to load an iso21:02
aveilleux!pastebin |n8ofsp8ds21:03
ubot2n8ofsp8ds: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:03
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds, you're trying to burn an ISO to a DVD? What program are you using?21:04
n8ofsp8dsno read information the disc21:04
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds, So you're... trying to mount a DVD?21:05
aveilleuxWhere does an ISO come into play?21:05
n8ofsp8dsthe program check the information the disc and shows if its patch properly or if there's and error21:06
n8ofsp8dsfrom a cli window21:07
n8ofsp8dswith in the program21:07
n8ofsp8dsand i keep getting the message i showed you21:07
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: So you're... running a program that checks the integrity of a disc?21:08
n8ofsp8dswell integrity of the information on that disc21:08
n8ofsp8dsthe21:08
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: May I see a screenshot of the program?21:09
n8ofsp8dssure hold up21:09
n8ofsp8dshttp://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=n3ojo0&s=421:13
n8ofsp8dsOOPS21:14
n8ofsp8dslet me that again21:14
n8ofsp8dslol21:14
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: You can do a "grab current window" screenshot with a 5-second delay21:15
geirhaOr just hit the Print Screen button ...21:15
n8ofsp8dshttp://i36.tinypic.com/n3ojo0.jpg21:17
n8ofsp8dsthere we go21:17
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: May I see a screenshot of the main program window, not just the error window?21:17
geirhan8ofsp8ds: That's the same picture you jost posted ;P21:18
n8ofsp8dshttp://i35.tinypic.com/xoidfs.jpg21:19
n8ofsp8dsis that what you needed it21:21
n8ofsp8ds??21:21
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: Oh, I see the problem. Open Terminal for me, please21:21
n8ofsp8dsok21:21
aveilleuxtype "sudo umount DVD_ROM" without the quotes21:22
aveilleuxYou'll have to enter your password21:22
n8ofsp8dsumount: DVD_ROM: not found21:23
n8ofsp8dsi have disc in the dvd rom21:23
n8ofsp8dsa21:23
n8ofsp8dsthats why its there21:24
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: Odd, I thought Ubuntu only put icons like that on the Desktop if they were mounted. In any case! In the dropdown menu, you have to select "File(s)" and choose /dev/cdrom.21:27
geirha/dev/cdrom is not readable by users by default.21:28
geirhaYou can add your user to the cdrom group to get rw access to it. (Without having to use sudo)21:28
Axidentsomeone who can help putting this Ubuntu installation to my new hard disk. It's an laptop with the new harddisk connected with USB. My idea is to put my new hard disk i21:29
geirhaI don't think umount takes a label as argument, you need a mount-point or device to unmount it; so sudo umount /dev/cdrom21:29
Axidentin my laptop after that21:29
geirhaAxident: It's pretty much straight forward, just create the partitions needed on the external drive (or have the installer create them), then install.21:31
aveilleuxgeirha: He doesn't need rw access. Block-level devices are read-only.21:31
geirhaThe only catch is on the last page of the installer, there should be an Advanced button. In there you can choose where grub (the bootloader should be installed)21:31
geirhaMake sure to choose the external drive.21:31
aveilleuxgeirha: umount takes a label; I've done sudo umount /media/flash before on one of my older systems... D'OH I just realized the problem21:32
geirhaaveilleux: $ ls -l "$(readlink -f /dev/cdrom)"  # brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2010-08-05 18:45 /dev/sr021:32
aveilleuxnuofsp8ds: the command should be sudo umount /media/DVD_ROM21:32
n8ofsp8dsumount: /media/DVD_ROM: not found21:33
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: Really? That's really weird, since there's an icon on the Desktop. I really thought launchers only appeared there if they were mounted (that happens if I umount a Flash drive)21:34
geirhaWell, you could of course just right-click the icon on the desktop and choose unmount21:34
geirhaBut why do it the easy way, aye?21:34
geirhaGuess we're too used to the terminal ;)21:34
n8ofsp8dswell there's no umount its just say eject disc21:35
aveilleuxThat means it's not mounted21:36
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: Can you pastebin the result of ls /dev for me, please? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/21:37
Axidentgeirha: I think about making some kind of backup like ghost backup for windows with all installed software and user files. So that I simply can change hard disk and boot up again without any installation. But how?21:37
n8ofsp8dshttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/483622/21:38
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: the device you want is /dev/dvd, then21:40
geirhaAxident: Hm. Well, you can copy the entire filesystems to the new drive, with dd. Will probably take a very long time though, highly dependant on the size of the filesystems.21:40
aveilleuxgeirha, Axident: And the speed of the USB device and bus21:41
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: I think you need to gksudo abgx360 in order to get permission to read block devices21:41
geirhaAnother approach is to format the external drive similar to the internal drive, then copy the contents of each filesystem to the new drive using pax/cpio/rsync.21:44
n8ofsp8dsdid gksudo abgx360 and it back to nathan@nathan-desktop:~$21:44
geirhaBut then you need to edit several files on the destination, because the filesystems have new uuids21:44
n8ofsp8dsand the /dev/dvd  when put that in i got the same message as before21:45
n8ofsp8dswith the program21:45
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: Close abgx360 completely, then run gksudo abgx360. That will open up a copy of abgx360 that has root permissions.21:48
AxidentIt looka a bit complicated this dd! I'm not sure I get it?21:49
n8ofsp8dsnothing21:51
n8ofsp8dssame thing21:51
n8ofsp8dsdoes the folder need to be on the desktop or home21:51
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: What folder?21:52
n8ofsp8dsits in the home21:52
n8ofsp8dsfolder21:52
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: "It" is ambiguous. You mean "pwd" would return /home/<user> ?21:52
n8ofsp8dsno i did gksudo abgx360 and nothing and i was saying does it matter if its in homefolder or the desktop21:53
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: "it" does not tell me what you are talking about. I do not know what "it" is. "it" is not a very descriptive word.21:54
n8ofsp8dswell anyways some said i need xterm21:55
n8ofsp8dshow do i get that21:55
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: You don't need xterm.21:55
tikaldoes anyone use an ipod touch 2g?21:55
tikalwith ubuntu and rythmobox21:55
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: Let's try this a different way. When you typed "gksudo abgx360", did you get any output or did it just newline onto another prompt?21:56
n8ofsp8dsnewline21:56
n8ofsp8dsinto another prompt21:59
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: Hm. Try sudo abgx36021:59
n8ofsp8dssudo: abgx360: command not found22:00
aveilleuxThat explains a lot22:00
geirhaAxident: dd can copy a partition to another partition, byte for byte.22:00
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: How did you launch abgx before?22:01
geirha(which means it also copies unused space, which means it will take much longer than just copying the files)22:01
n8ofsp8dsi created the exe for it and put it into my accessors22:02
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: ...exe? exe is a Windows executable file. You mean you bompiled the binary?22:03
aveilleuxcompiled*22:03
n8ofsp8dsya22:03
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: Where is the binary located?22:04
n8ofsp8dshome folder ---> abgx360gui-1.0.222:04
AxidentI think Im on my way, creating partitions right now!22:04
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: that path is written ~/abgx360giu-1.0.2/ properly22:05
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: ~/ being your home dir22:05
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: type cd ~/abgx360gui-1.0.2/22:05
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: What is the binary's filename?22:06
n8ofsp8dsabgxgui22:06
n8ofsp8dsabgx360gui22:07
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: Okay, now run gksudo ./abgx360gui22:07
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: note the period-forwardslash ( ./ )22:07
n8ofsp8dsok did that popped up22:08
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: Now try22:08
n8ofsp8dsabgx22:08
n8ofsp8dsstill saying unix dvd input22:08
n8ofsp8dswith that message22:09
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: You have several possible devices in your /dev. Try /dev/dvd, /dev/cdrom, /dev/dvdrw, and /dev/cdrw22:09
n8ofsp8dsfreakin a still the same message22:13
aveilleuxn8ofsp8ds: I'm sorry, then. I don't know enough about abgx to really help you beyond this point.22:15
n8ofsp8dslol thanks anyways22:15
n8ofsp8dsjust dont want have switch in between ubuntu and windows22:21
n8ofsp8dsto22:21
n8ofsp8dsto use that program22:21
n8ofsp8dsprobably just virtualbox win xp22:21
harrisonhello23:28
harrisonwhat is the chatting counterpart to #ubuntu-beginners?23:35
bobo123hello harrison23:38
bobo123harrison: what do you mean with "chatting counterpart" ? do you mean talking about non-ubuntu/linux stuff? then it is #ubuntu-offtopic23:39
harrisonthats it23:40
harrisonBut I thought that #ubuntu-beginners had its own off topic section23:40
PabloRubianesyes23:40
PabloRubianes#ubuntu-beginners-team23:40
harrisonThanks23:41
PabloRubianesnp23:41
bobo123ah :-)23:42
sebsebsebHi23:43
pseudosmarthello? Is anyone in here?23:50
pseudosmartI am brand new to using Ubuntu, and I am having a couple problems, I didn't know if anyone might know the answer to23:51
sebsebsebpseudosmart: hi23:51
pseudosmarthello23:51
sebsebsebOk ask the questions23:51
sebsebseb!ask | pseudosmart23:52
ubot2pseudosmart: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:52
sebsebseb!details | pseudosmart23:52
ubot2pseudosmart: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."23:52
pseudosmartwell, for one thing, my screen resolution is off. I have installed the proprietary drivers for my nVidia graphics card, and it almost works, but the right side of the screen is cut off, and the bottom panel is missing. I am running 10.04.123:53
sebsebsebpseudosmart: ah yes resolutions23:53
sebsebsebok anything else?23:53
pedro3005System -> Administration -> NVIDIA X Server Settings   did you try going there?23:54
pseudosmartyes, my headphones produce sound when plugged in, but the speakers produce no sound23:54
pseudosmartno I have not tried System -> Administration -> NVIDIA X Server Settings yet23:54
sebsebsebpseudosmart: also  you may  have this?  system > preferences  >  monitors ?  or  system > preferences > screen resolution?23:54
sebsebsebhi pedro300523:54
pedro3005hi23:55
pseudosmartI have checked system > preferences  >  monitors, and my highest resolution available is 2048 x 1536 (4:3)23:55
sebsebsebpseudosmart: ok have you got the propritary Nivida driver installed properly?23:55
pseudosmartI believe so23:55
pseudosmartI can't seem to find NVIDIA X Server Settings, I don't see it in the Administration Menu23:56
sebsebsebpedro3005: ^23:56
pedro3005pseudosmart, try running /usr/bin/nvidia-settings23:57
pseudosmartI apologize in advance for my ignorance, I'm brand new at this23:57
pedro3005it's okay23:58
sebsebsebpseudosmart: and I think pedro3005 meant to run that in a terminal by the way23:58
pedro3005pseudosmart, just copy and paste it into a terminal23:58
pseudosmartoh, okay23:58
sebsebsebpseudosmart: by the way not for your current issue, but for other stuff, this is bound to be useful23:58
sebsebseb!manual | pseudosmart23:58
ubot2pseudosmart: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/23:58
sebsebsebpseudosmart: and theres Ubuntu Pocket Guide as well that you can download23:59

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