| hggdh | micahg: regression-release | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| hggdh | and open a task for lucid | 00:01 |
| micahg | hggdh: k, well, we're making a new package so that won't work | 00:01 |
| micahg | I'll add a lucid-backports task once it's in maverick (if accepted) | 00:01 |
| micahg | or actually file a new bug for that | 00:02 |
| hggdh | micahg: you will probably need a new bug for the new package | 00:02 |
| hggdh | oh boy, the paths we take to adjust to LP... | 00:03 |
| micahg | hggdh: ? | 00:05 |
| hggdh | I wish we had something like the depends on from bugzilla | 00:09 |
| hggdh | er, blocks | 00:09 |
| micahg | hggdh: agreed | 00:09 |
| hggdh | oooooohhh | 00:24 |
| hggdh | micahg: LP will add "record dependencies between bugs" for next fix/improvement | 00:24 |
| micahg | hggdh: \o/ | 00:24 |
| hggdh | micahg: bug 95419 | 00:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 95419 in malone "Record dependencies between bugs (affects: 10) (dups: 4) (heat: 69)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95419 | 00:24 |
| hggdh | \o/ indeed! | 00:25 |
| === em is now known as emma | ||
| * devildante will go to sleep... good night everyone ;) | 03:20 | |
| bcurtiswx_ | g'nite all | 03:58 |
| Muscovy | Hi, I'm considering joining the bug control team, but I'm not sure if I meet the requirements/experience in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl. I know it's a vague question, but how much "experience" is recommended? | 04:34 |
| micahg | Muscovy: when you're comfortable deciding importance and your mentor is comfortable as well | 04:37 |
| Muscovy | micahg: I think that could be an issue, I don't have a mentor. | 04:43 |
| micahg | Muscovy: heh, well are there triagers familiar with your work, enough to know how well you respond to bugs | 04:45 |
| micahg | !mentoring | Muscovy | 04:45 |
| ubot2 | Factoid 'mentoring' not found | 04:45 |
| micahg | ugh | 04:45 |
| micahg | !mentors | Muscovy | 04:45 |
| ubot2 | Factoid 'mentors' not found | 04:45 |
| micahg | !mentor | Muscovy | 04:46 |
| ubot2 | Muscovy: Looking for a helping hand with bug triage? Read the wiki for information about requesting a bugsquad mentor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors | 04:46 |
| micahg | there we go :) | 04:46 |
| Muscovy | Thanks. | 04:46 |
| vish | micahg: hehe! we tried to keep that factoid short, but seems to backfire a lot of times! ;p | 08:18 |
| vish | jpds: hmm , just remembered about 'an' or 'a' mv-o > http://www.colorado.edu/Publications/styleguide/abbrev.html#articles :D | 08:58 |
| * vish was writing a comment and was reminded of jpds' mention, so looked it up :) | 09:00 | |
| abhijit | hi | 10:28 |
| elv | hi! I don't understand if there is anything to do or to check before marking a bug report as public. | 10:30 |
| persia | elv, OK. So, there's probably a wiki page about it, but I forget the URL. | 10:31 |
| persia | The general idea is that we don't want to expose bugs if they meet the following criteria: | 10:31 |
| persia | 1) they represent a not-yet-public security vulernability (needs to be made public the same day as everyone else) | 10:32 |
| persia | 2) the bug report contains private information (credit card numbers, passwords, etc.) | 10:32 |
| persia | So, the first group is easy: you will only be able to un-private them if you already have all the security training. | 10:33 |
| persia | The second group is harder: you need to review and analyse all the available information (including digging through any attachments) to ensure that no information is available. | 10:34 |
| elv | mmm, ok exactly i read something about the point 2. But i don't understand if i have to remove the coredump file always. | 10:35 |
| persia | Generally if there's a coredump file, you want to get the apport-retracer to retrace it. | 10:36 |
| elv | ok thanks. | 10:37 |
| bcurtiswx_ | good morning | 13:02 |
| === MichealH_ is now known as MichealH | ||
| devildante | hi all ;) | 14:54 |
| pedro_ | good day devildante | 14:54 |
| pedro_ | how are you today? | 14:55 |
| devildante | pedro_: hi pedro_, all is fine :) | 14:55 |
| pedro_ | vish, so jibel is working with us in the mentoring program ;-) | 14:57 |
| pedro_ | vish, we can assign him all the remaining students! | 14:57 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, is it in or out :P | 14:59 |
| jibel | \o/ | 15:00 |
| vish | pedro_: oh wow! it reminds me of "Universal Soldiers!" , we would have a huge army! Jibel's Army! :D | 15:02 |
| vish | yay! Bugs will have no chance now! | 15:02 |
| bcurtiswx | I would go more with jibel the exterminator! | 15:02 |
| vish | bcurtiswx: have you seen jibel's wiki? i read his bug squashing comment and my jaw dropped in awe! :) | 15:03 |
| bcurtiswx | No, link? | 15:04 |
| vish | bcurtiswx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JeanBaptisteLallement > "I'm in the top 3 contributors for bug management activity: karma (reaching apport will be hard though " | 15:05 |
| vish | pedro_: you loose to jibel ;p | 15:07 |
| vish | pedro_ is third now! | 15:07 |
| bcurtiswx | If only I had that amount of free time.. Lol | 15:08 |
| devildante | I hope I get in this top 20 some time... | 15:09 |
| bcurtiswx | I will be triaging much more once I take my qualifying exams | 15:09 |
| bcurtiswx | Computational sciences and informatics with a concentration in space sciences and astrophysics.... And I have to repeat that when people ask what I do... | 15:11 |
| bcurtiswx | That's what my phd will be in if I get there | 15:11 |
| devildante | Can someone update the "nominate for" part in bug 502610? | 15:12 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 502610 in webkit (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Chinese characters unexpectedly switch fonts in WebKit-GTK (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 28)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/502610 | 15:12 |
| devildante | Lucid must be declined | 15:13 |
| thekorn_ | "[...]with an average speed of 1K bugs per month[...]" what an amazing definitin of speed! | 15:29 |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| chrisccoulson | hi pedro_ | 16:14 |
| pedro_ | hello chrisccoulson | 16:15 |
| chrisccoulson | about the firefox crash reports with failed retrace - we've actually blacklisted firefox in apport now | 16:15 |
| chrisccoulson | crash reports go directly to mozilla instead (for maverick) | 16:15 |
| pedro_ | chrisccoulson nice!, i've been looking into the ones left at lp | 16:15 |
| chrisccoulson | cool, thanks. it's probably best to just close the unuseful ones from maverick now | 16:16 |
| pedro_ | chrisccoulson ok will do that | 16:16 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 16:16 |
| pedro_ | you're welcome :-) | 16:18 |
| pedro_ | devildante, really? | 16:19 |
| pedro_ | Ubuntu BugSquad: devildante is an addict. | 16:19 |
| devildante | pedro_, ? | 16:19 |
| pedro_ | he's even working on old bug days!! | 16:19 |
| * pedro_ hugs devildante | 16:19 | |
| * devildante hugs back pedro_ | 16:19 | |
| pedro_ | devildante, can i clone you? | 16:19 |
| devildante | pedro_: okay, go ahead :p | 16:19 |
| pedro_ | ;-) | 16:20 |
| devildante | pedro_: maybe someone should add more bugs to the translations bug day, I finished them all and I wouldn't like the bugday to be cancelled | 16:21 |
| devildante | we need to motivate :p | 16:21 |
| devildante | I need to correct: I almost finished them, kamusin took care of the rest :p | 16:22 |
| pedro_ | devildante, we can add some more confirmed , because there's no more New reports :-P | 16:25 |
| devildante | haha | 16:25 |
| pedro_ | let me do the query and i'll add those | 16:25 |
| devildante | okay :) | 16:25 |
| * devildante will go take care of old bug day ;) | 16:26 | |
| ashams | simar: hi | 16:32 |
| simar | ashams: hi | 16:33 |
| simar | ashams: done same work .. | 16:33 |
| ashams | simar: not yet. studying more! | 16:34 |
| simar | ashams: k, keep going | 16:34 |
| simar | ashams: i wonder why you set the status of the bug i told you to triage again.. to new | 16:34 |
| ashams | simar: the reporter provided the needed info! | 16:35 |
| ashams | simar: but only one reported it, so I could not confirm | 16:36 |
| ashams | simar: is that wrong? | 16:36 |
| simar | ashams: i think you are not on right track | 16:36 |
| simar | ashams: please note the following points | 16:37 |
| simar | ashams: wait ... point me to that bug first .. get the link | 16:37 |
| ashams | simar: gust a sec! | 16:37 |
| simar | ashams: ya | 16:38 |
| ashams | simar: here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/611992 | 16:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 611992 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "Synaptics TouchPad: no supported touchpad found (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] | 16:40 |
| simar | ashams: wait | 16:42 |
| ashams | simar: k | 16:43 |
| simar | ashams: triaging means following the bug until it is fixed.. you have to set the status to triaged when there is enough information for a developer to work on it | 16:45 |
| ashams | simar: yes, but can be with only one Affected, and can't reproduce? | 16:47 |
| ashams | simar: :) ? | 16:49 |
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| simar | ashams: there?? | 17:28 |
| simar | ashams: my internet broke | 17:28 |
| simar | ashams: you can't reproduce every bug in your own system .. | 17:31 |
| simar | ashams: in that case, you should ask for logs from affected users .. that way looking on the logs you can confirm the bug | 17:32 |
| simar | ashams: heya .... .. .. .. . | 17:40 |
| KE1HA | Off-Topic I know, but I finished a perfect HP Mini-2133 install w/10.04.1 even BCM4312 wifi nic drivers worked out of the box, Well done all !! | 17:44 |
| marjo | QA Team Meeting 1700 UTC in #ubuntu-quality | 17:48 |
| holstein | KE1HA: dood | 17:48 |
| holstein | i got a 2133 | 17:49 |
| holstein | quite a pain | 17:49 |
| holstein | im still using the openchrome driver | 17:49 |
| holstein | hggdh: ping | 17:50 |
| holstein | i didnt make it on here yesterday morning | 17:50 |
| holstein | maybe we can schedule something? | 17:51 |
| hggdh | holstein: I noticed ;-) | 17:51 |
| * holstein opens calendar | 17:51 | |
| holstein | hggdh: how about tomorrow? | 17:51 |
| holstein | 11? | 17:51 |
| hggdh | holstein: deal | 17:51 |
| hggdh | holstein: 11:00 on what TZ? | 17:52 |
| holstein | your in my timezone right? | 17:52 |
| holstein | its almost 1 for you too? | 17:52 |
| hggdh | I do not know... I am US CDT | 17:52 |
| hggdh | oh, you are EDT | 17:52 |
| holstein | yeah | 17:52 |
| hggdh | hold on, let me check | 17:52 |
| holstein | hggdh: im open all day tomorrow | 17:52 |
| hggdh | holstein: any time from 12:00 EDT -- 13:00 is good, for example | 17:53 |
| holstein | even better | 17:54 |
| holstein | lets say my noon then | 17:54 |
| hggdh | holstein: 12:00 EDT it is | 17:54 |
| KE1HA | holstein: it picked the STA wifi Driver, and I used the ALT install ISO (debian-installer) to avoid any VID issues on boot / install start. Other than that, was perfect. | 17:55 |
| nigelb | can someone on gnome look at bug 250664 (i'm on xfce) | 17:55 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 250664 in gnome-device-manager (Ubuntu) ""Device Manager" entry not appearing in System -> Administration (faulty gnome-device-manager.desktop) (heat: 5)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250664 | 17:55 |
| holstein | KE1HA: via released a driver recently | 17:56 |
| hggdh | nigelb: so such entry under Maverick Gnome | 17:56 |
| nigelb | hggdh: 'no'? | 17:57 |
| KE1HA | holstein: the STA specifically called out 4 versions, 4312 and a couple others where as the BCM diver seemed generic. Hope this fixes some BCM issues as there's allot of folks having trouble with them. | 17:57 |
| nigelb | hggdh: also, is there such an app? | 17:57 |
| holstein | KE1HA: check out this screenshot http://imagebin.org/111345 ;) | 17:58 |
| KE1HA | holstein: Nastey :-) .. not having that problem at all. | 17:59 |
| holstein | yeah, that was my first try installing that VIA driver | 17:59 |
| holstein | i manually put the files where they go | 17:59 |
| holstein | and got it working | 18:00 |
| holstein | but no 3D | 18:00 |
| hggdh | nigelb: nowadays, I do not think so, but pedro_ is the expert on Gnome... | 18:00 |
| holstein | and the openchrome one seemed 'less hot' | 18:00 |
| KE1HA | holstein: check your BIOS as well, on the 2133 wiki page it mentions FM 04 with newer FW causing issues. | 18:00 |
| holstein | KE1HA: i got 04 | 18:00 |
| KE1HA | Hmm | 18:00 |
| KE1HA | Let me boot and will see what I ahve | 18:00 |
| hggdh | nigelb: and it is indeed 'no' such appl in Maverick | 18:01 |
| holstein | i think i tried them all... | 18:01 |
| holstein | KE1HA: if you didnt do anything special | 18:01 |
| holstein | you got openchrome | 18:01 |
| holstein | AFAIK | 18:01 |
| nigelb | hggdh: aha, I was afraid of that. | 18:01 |
| KE1HA | Nope, just out of the box install, apart form picking the boxed restricted driver. | 18:01 |
| holstein | and it works fine really | 18:01 |
| holstein | no 3D | 18:01 |
| holstein | but the display sleeps with it now | 18:01 |
| holstein | that was always my problem with the openchrome driver and this GPU | 18:02 |
| KE1HA | holstein: FM-03 | 18:03 |
| * holstein would like to have some 3D though | 18:03 | |
| holstein | KE1HA: maybe i got 3 | 18:03 |
| holstein | i got the one that the wiki suggested | 18:03 |
| KE1HA | :-) on a mini well, that's a bit of a stretch for that little box. | 18:03 |
| holstein | my asus eee 900 | 18:03 |
| holstein | 3D | 18:03 |
| holstein | no problem | 18:04 |
| holstein | everything out of the box | 18:04 |
| ashams | simar: alright :) | 18:04 |
| KE1HA | how can I test the 3D ? | 18:04 |
| simar | ashams: ah! | 18:04 |
| holstein | KE1HA: you can try to enable desktop effects | 18:04 |
| holstein | right click on the desktop | 18:04 |
| simar | ashams: let me see what was going on.. | 18:04 |
| holstein | change desktop background | 18:05 |
| holstein | go to visual effects tab | 18:05 |
| holstein | and try one of the options | 18:05 |
| KE1HA | Got, having a play now | 18:05 |
| holstein | mine goes and looks for a driver | 18:05 |
| simar | ashams: what you say after my last comments .. | 18:05 |
| holstein | and says 'no dice' | 18:05 |
| holstein | desktop effects could not be enabled :/ | 18:06 |
| holstein | i did get 3D with 9.10 | 18:06 |
| KE1HA | Yep, same same. | 18:06 |
| holstein | had to get the driver | 18:06 |
| holstein | install it | 18:06 |
| holstein | say some encantations | 18:06 |
| holstein | get the right firmware | 18:06 |
| holstein | and an older kernel | 18:06 |
| KE1HA | That's ok, this one doesn't need 3D .. can't hardly see the screen anyways :-) | 18:07 |
| holstein | i only stated working on it to get the display to sleep | 18:07 |
| holstein | and now it does | 18:07 |
| holstein | so its not a big deal | 18:07 |
| holstein | somethings are funky though | 18:07 |
| KE1HA | Yeah, this one dont need 3D fer it' intended purpose. Can use a full Laptop is I need that. | 18:08 |
| holstein | video playback is *not* always smooth | 18:08 |
| holstein | and sometimes i think its going to sleep | 18:08 |
| holstein | and it doesnt | 18:08 |
| holstein | and the sound dies | 18:08 |
| KE1HA | I tested that with the example's and went to utube and watched a few vids there, seemed ok. | 18:08 |
| holstein | occasionally | 18:09 |
| holstein | hasnt done it with the latest few kernels though | 18:09 |
| KE1HA | on the wiki it talks about sound levels not sticking, tested that, did not ahve to use alsamixer to stick them. | 18:09 |
| holstein | KE1HA: used to be | 18:09 |
| holstein | if i opened sound preferences | 18:10 |
| holstein | the device died | 18:10 |
| === devildante-afk is now known as devildante | ||
| holstein | and i could restart it with a script | 18:10 |
| holstein | yeah | 18:10 |
| holstein | now 'sound preferences' just crashes | 18:10 |
| holstein | sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload | 18:11 |
| holstein | i got a shortcut on my desktop to that ^^ ;) | 18:11 |
| simar | ashams: what you have to say? | 18:12 |
| holstein | KE1HA: i havent really been filing bugs either | 18:12 |
| holstein | im not sure what the devs are suppose to do | 18:12 |
| holstein | VIA doesnt really share | 18:13 |
| KE1HA | holstein: i've not ran nto any bugs yet, other than that 3d business, but then it's not really powerfull enough fer 3d i dont tink. | 18:13 |
| KE1HA | I was just happy WiFi worked OUB | 18:14 |
| simar | vish: i think i have found you a papercut. i hope :-| | 18:14 |
| simar | vish: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/623066 | 18:14 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 623066 in xchat (Ubuntu) "XChat does not remember favourite channels set from the right-click menu (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:14 |
| holstein | KE1HA: open sound preferences | 18:14 |
| holstein | maybe you got the other 2133 | 18:14 |
| holstein | i think there is a few different ones | 18:15 |
| holstein | but when i open sound preferences | 18:15 |
| KE1HA | sound pref's doesn't crash | 18:15 |
| holstein | and go to a few tabs | 18:15 |
| vish | simar: oh noes! we have enough bugs! ;p | 18:15 |
| holstein | KE1HA: can you navigate through it? | 18:15 |
| simar | vish: you can escape ;-)) | 18:15 |
| holstein | is that the one that came with SUSE? | 18:15 |
| vish | simar: but that wouldnt be a papercut, we dont install xchat by default :) | 18:15 |
| KE1HA | this is an older box though, probably 2x or there abouts maybe a little more. | 18:15 |
| simar | vish: ok, i c | 18:16 |
| simar | vish: so you will happier ;-)) | 18:16 |
| KE1HA | holstein: this one came with Slug-Vista, that's why we put UB on it. | 18:16 |
| vish | simar: hehe, one of these days, we should probably tag Ubuntu itself as a papercut ;p | 18:16 |
| vish | everywhere there is a bug! | 18:16 |
| holstein | p/n KX869AT#ABA | 18:17 |
| holstein | KE1HA: well, dont belive its too slow for 3D | 18:17 |
| KE1HA | holstein: the Sound card is VT1708/A is that helps. | 18:17 |
| holstein | my eee runs compiz great | 18:17 |
| holstein | its the VIA chips | 18:17 |
| holstein | my EEE is 900mhz ;) | 18:18 |
| KE1HA | Over all, im pretty happy with it thus far. | 18:18 |
| simar | vish: this make users to think... there is none because people like you work tirelessly to identify and fix them ... great soul . | 18:18 |
| holstein | im always about to break this one | 18:18 |
| simar | ashams: there ?? | 18:18 |
| KE1HA | well, iv'e got plenty of 3D boxs, dual 9800GT's GTX 280's no need here fer a little mini 3D box :-) | 18:19 |
| holstein | 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10) | 18:19 |
| holstein | KE1HA: you can open sound preferences? | 18:20 |
| holstein | and navigate through it? | 18:20 |
| holstein | HEY | 18:20 |
| holstein | now i can :) | 18:20 |
| simar | vish: I have not been able to contact stanley_robertso till now here in IRC. | 18:20 |
| KE1HA | same model chip, yes I can open SP, and mess around, no crach, but did notice the Sound Vol goes away on the bar is I change it. | 18:21 |
| vish | simar: odd, though, you two often dont meet at the same time! can you try sending him an email? | 18:21 |
| holstein | yeah, its *way* better | 18:21 |
| holstein | just a couple months ago | 18:21 |
| holstein | i would open sound preferences | 18:21 |
| holstein | and the device would disappear | 18:22 |
| holstein | w00t :) | 18:22 |
| vish | simar: irc contact is not a requirement, though it helps.. :) | 18:22 |
| simar | vish: ok .. i note it | 18:22 |
| holstein | KE1HA: last time i opened it, when the sound vol went away, it crashed | 18:22 |
| KE1HA | holstein: yep, your right, it does vanish, guess that's why the vol selector goes away. | 18:22 |
| holstein | but i was able to get through it once | 18:23 |
| holstein | thats improvement | 18:23 |
| KE1HA | It doesn't crash so to speak, jsut disappears. | 18:23 |
| KE1HA | Guess tha's a bug :-( | 18:23 |
| holstein | yeah, but what do we do? | 18:23 |
| holstein | VIA dont care | 18:24 |
| holstein | KE1HA: you want to file it? | 18:24 |
| KE1HA | Solution = Dont mess with the preferences :-) | 18:24 |
| holstein | hehe | 18:24 |
| KE1HA | Ok, time fer a coffe :-) | 18:25 |
| holstein | KE1HA: :) | 18:25 |
| holstein | glad to find a fellow 2133'er | 18:25 |
| ashams | simar: hey! | 18:37 |
| simar | ashams: i think you should set the status to incomplete again.. | 18:39 |
| simar | ashams: and read about the statuses again | 18:39 |
| ashams | simar: he had already included the Xorg.0.log in the report | 18:39 |
| simar | ashams: so what .. after setting the incomplete status, you should set it to triage if you think it is fit to be worked upon by developer | 18:40 |
| simar | ashams: just set the status and then i will tell you whta to do | 18:41 |
| ashams | simar: here's the Xorg.log, please use your browser to find "Synaptics", I think this is a problem with the Xorg module??? | 18:43 |
| ashams | simar: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52774134/XorgLog.txt | 18:43 |
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| ashams | simar: there? :-) | 18:45 |
| simar | ashams: what do you find fishy in it? | 18:45 |
| ashams | simar: the Synaptics couldn't be Identified! | 18:49 |
| ashams | simar: it says: "[ 33.312] (EE) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware." | 18:49 |
| simar | ashams: good work.. | 18:49 |
| ashams | simar: so, set to incomplete??? | 18:50 |
| simar | ashams: sure | 18:51 |
| ashams | simar: why, everything is right there? | 18:51 |
| ashams | simar: and it became clear that the Xorg-Module has been Unloaded, due to Fail to Identification?! :---) | 18:53 |
| simar | ashams: but why the identification failed .. | 18:54 |
| simar | ashams: the linux kernel wrongly reported the touchpad .. so synaptics module loading failed | 18:55 |
| simar | ashams: there | 18:55 |
| simar | ashams: to confirm this thing we have a command that reports all input devices that kernel reports to x. | 18:56 |
| simar | ask that from the user | 18:56 |
| ashams | simar: here's my best guess, it had been mistakenly associated to Driver 1.2.2, which is not the correct one for that version! | 18:56 |
| ashams | simar: ok | 18:57 |
| ashams | simar: sorry have to go now, ill do it and confirm through mail, bye for now> | 18:57 |
| simar | ashams: wild guess!! higher driver version should not stop support for some touchpads | 18:58 |
| simar | ashams: wait | 18:58 |
| simar | ashams: a sec | 18:58 |
| simar | ashams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection | 18:59 |
| hggdh | pedro_, jibel: I am wondering about regression-potential. I read it as "not having confirmed a regression", but this is not how it is being used now | 18:59 |
| ashams | simar: im still working on that doc? | 18:59 |
| simar | ashams: see this In case your touchpad features like scrolling, tapping, etc does not work at all. | 18:59 |
| simar | ashams: in particular | 19:00 |
| ashams | simar: well! | 19:00 |
| simar | ashams: NOTE SOME POINTS | 19:00 |
| jibel | hggdh, today it is used as a regression in a development release. | 19:00 |
| hggdh | pedro_, jibel: what do you think of having a 'regression-devel' (or the likes) for the current development version of Ubuntu, and using 'regression-potential' as above? | 19:00 |
| simar | ashams: always comment if you will change the bug status in future atleast for some 1 month ... | 19:00 |
| ashams | simar: you say that i need to ask him for the /proc/bus/input/devices file | 19:00 |
| simar | ashams: you are absolutely right .. | 19:01 |
| jibel | hggdh, but that means that once the dev become a release you'll have to change all the remaining -potential to -release. | 19:01 |
| simar | ashams: you are getting the stuff | 19:01 |
| hggdh | jibel: don't we need to do it now, anyway? | 19:01 |
| jibel | hggdh, there is currently no status to say 'this is maybe a regression but needs confirmation' | 19:01 |
| ashams | simar: I really have to go NOW :) | 19:01 |
| hggdh | jibel: yes, I agree. This is why I am proposing it | 19:01 |
| simar | ashams: make sure you comment | 19:02 |
| simar | ashams: you can leave .. have a nice day | 19:02 |
| jibel | we could use a regression-release even in devel because after all this is a development release. | 19:02 |
| hggdh | yes, we could. My issue is I do not think current usage is intuitive | 19:03 |
| jibel | hggdh, what is a regression in maverick. This is an opened report or a task targeted to maverick and tagged with regression-release. | 19:03 |
| hggdh | jibel: this is another issue: we may have multiple nominations | 19:04 |
| hggdh | and we cannot stick the tag to a tassk | 19:04 |
| jibel | hggdh, I think that too. And that's why regression- reports are sometimes messy | 19:04 |
| jibel | hggdh, you have to open 1 bug per regression. If the regression affects several releases, then open several tasks. | 19:05 |
| hggdh | yep. I have seen 'regression-<version> used (like 'regression-lucid'). Perhaps this is a way out | 19:05 |
| hggdh | jibel: but opening one bug per identified version is much more work | 19:06 |
| jibel | hggdh, I mean one bug per regression with 1 task per release affected by this regression | 19:06 |
| hggdh | oh, OK, yes. But, then, which tag to use? | 19:07 |
| jibel | hggdh, regression-potential until the regression is confirmed. | 19:07 |
| jibel | once confirmed set it to regression-release or -update | 19:07 |
| hggdh | jibel: then we agree that current usage is not ideal | 19:08 |
| jibel | hggdh, this for all the releases even the dev release. | 19:08 |
| hggdh | jibel: no, currently we set regression-potential *only* for the devel release (at least how it is documented) | 19:08 |
| jibel | if there is a regression in the dev release and it's not fix before the release it become a regression in the stable release. | 19:09 |
| hggdh | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags#Regression%20specific | 19:09 |
| jibel | hggdh, Yes and I think that's the point that needs to be addressed. | 19:09 |
| hggdh | cool! | 19:09 |
| hggdh | let's get pedro_ 's input when he is back | 19:10 |
| jibel | hggdh, the workflow is no clear because you don't at which step of the regression you are. | 19:10 |
| hggdh | jibel: indeed | 19:10 |
| hggdh | and clarifying the workflow may help us | 19:10 |
| jibel | hggdh, we would have regression-* to track the regression and the bug/task statuses to track the fix of the regression. | 19:10 |
| jibel | No change in the development process and no specific management for the developers. | 19:11 |
| hggdh | jibel: so we keep on using -potential as it is, and extend it *also* for current published releases? | 19:11 |
| jibel | hggdh, this way the regression workflow is quite linear. All the release are handled in the same way, we know which regression are really regressions | 19:12 |
| jibel | which release is affected | 19:12 |
| jibel | and which step we at fixing it. | 19:12 |
| jibel | s/we/we are/ | 19:13 |
| jibel | hggdh, yes we extend the use of -potential to the stable releases and -release to the devel release. | 19:13 |
| hggdh | jibel: ack | 19:14 |
| hggdh | we will have to propose/publish the changes to -devel also | 19:14 |
| jibel | hggdh, Do you know who designed the process initially ? | 19:14 |
| jibel | hggdh, It would be good to know the historical issues they encountered. | 19:15 |
| hggdh | jibel: I do not remember, I think it was started by bdmurray -- but not sure | 19:15 |
| hggdh | who, BTW, might also want to comment here ;-) | 19:15 |
| jibel | hggdh, I'm out for diner. See you tomorrow. | 19:17 |
| hggdh | jibel: bonne soiree | 19:21 |
| abhijit | bye | 19:27 |
| njin | pedro_: aound ? | 19:34 |
| njin | pedro_: around? | 19:35 |
| * bcurtiswx tries translating hggdh | 19:38 | |
| hggdh | bcurtiswx: good evening, with syntax errors (should have been 'bonne soirée' | 19:41 |
| bcurtiswx | Ah, muchas gracias | 19:42 |
| hggdh | bcurtiswx: er, French, not Spanish ;-) | 19:42 |
| hggdh | merci beaucoup | 19:42 |
| bcurtiswx | Lol, I know | 19:43 |
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| njin | pedro_: around? | 20:41 |
| pedro_ | njin, yes | 20:42 |
| kamusin | don't tell to devildante, pedro_ | 21:11 |
| pedro_ | ! | 21:11 |
| devildante | dammit a secret | 21:11 |
| pedro_ | secret?! | 21:11 |
| devildante | <kamusin> don't tell to devildante, pedro_ | 21:11 |
| pedro_ | oooh! | 21:11 |
| nigelb | heh | 21:11 |
| pedro_ | i won't tell you | 21:12 |
| pedro_ | and neither to hggdh | 21:12 |
| * nigelb neither | 21:12 | |
| nigelb | pedro_: did we ever tell hggdh | 21:12 |
| pedro_ | nigelb, of course not! what are you thinking? | 21:12 |
| nigelb | pedro_: hahah | 21:13 |
| hggdh | oh, so now there are two of us... | 21:13 |
| pedro_ | we can tell him another clue at the next BugSquad meeting | 21:13 |
| pedro_ | or at UDS | 21:13 |
| pedro_ | ! | 21:13 |
| hggdh | pedro_: grrrrr | 21:13 |
| nigelb | pedro_: and next one in natty sprint. Good idea. | 21:14 |
| kamusin | muahah | 21:14 |
| devildante | hey, I just discovered the secret! | 21:16 |
| pedro_ | oh oh oh oh | 21:16 |
| pedro_ | ! | 21:16 |
| pedro_ | hggdh, ^ | 21:16 |
| * hggdh adds devildante to the list | 21:20 | |
| * vish consoles hggdh :) | 21:20 | |
| * devildante hides | 21:20 | |
| hggdh | LOL | 21:20 |
| pedro_ | hahahaa | 21:21 |
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