[00:08] <ryan_> fajita: wtf
[00:11] <ryan_> wrong room
[01:52] <zul> hallyn: slacker ;)
[01:59] <droogie> i've created a kvm image using vmbuilder. After the image got created I added a new lvm volume for it. Now I'm trying to convert the .qcow2 image to that blockdevice using 'qemu-img convert -O raw input.cqow2 /dev/vg/lv' and qemu throws an error: qemu-img: Error while formatting '/dev/vg/lv', anybody got any suggestion?
[02:07] <ball> Is /dev/random faster on platforms with hardware RNGs that the kernel understands?
[02:10] <ball> 23158 bytes (23 kB) copied, 43186.7 s, 0.0 kB/s
[02:13] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, well, i suppose ideally both.
[02:13] <smoser> if you have some "profile" or some way that I indicate "this is a uec image", then you can easily do both. i don't mind if i have to say "--uec" or the equivalent.
[02:27] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: I was thinking exaclty on the same thing. THe other way is to do a 'file uec.img' and determine if it is a UEC image, if all offcourse have the same output
[02:29] <smoser> i dont really care about auto determining.
[02:29] <smoser> i dont mind passing an arg that indicates what it is.
[02:29] <smoser> later you can get smarter
[02:30] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: yeah at the end it is just tweaking. Either way, it will work.
[02:51] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, i'm going to be out tomorrow. send email to me if you need anything.
[02:51] <smoser> thanks for your work, and great job.
[02:51] <smoser> if i can nit-pick, then one thing i would really like to see is to do time stamp detection on the .img and -floppy files being newer than the tarfile
[02:52] <smoser> since you're using qemu-img backing store, you could then avoid the 'tar -Sxvzf' again, which is time consuming.
[02:52] <smoser> but... anyway. thanks.
[02:54]  * ball unplugs a hard disk, just to see what happens.
[03:03] <hallyn> zul: huh?
[03:04] <itsux2bu> when i installed 32-bit Ubuntu Server 10.04  it gave me the option to install LAMP, OpenSSH, and Samba.. but i didn't install them at the time.. i want to install them now.. whats the apt-get install ???
[03:04] <itsux2bu> for those 3 programs
[03:10] <ball> Very sensibly the software RAID warned me about the failure and offered to run in degraded mode.
[03:13] <YankDownUnder> Anyone familiar with Dynamic DNS...?
[03:51] <vibedigital> hi
[03:52] <vibedigital> i want install truecrypt in ubuntu-server 10.04 how the right way ?
[04:15] <slestak> hey guys.  got a racing /sbin/getty i cannot explain.  killed it and another pid spun up using same cpu
[04:16] <slestak> lucid server 10.4.1 on intel (older hp server)
[04:17] <slestak> id rahter troubleshoot this and learn sth.  dont want to reboot
[04:31] <itsux2bu> anybody know where phpmyadmin puts its files after an install?
[04:41] <funkyHat> itsux2bu: dpkg -L phpmyadmin probably knows
[05:00] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: that's what I was trying to do too actually, however IDK why, the tarball keeps newer timestamp. I'll just figure it out overtime anyways
[05:16] <itsux2bu> i find them..
[05:17] <itsux2bu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin  <<-- this actually had useful info for a change
[05:17] <itsux2bu> made 1 file edit and now i see my phpmyadmin in my browser
[05:18] <itsux2bu> nice when something doesn't take hours and hours to get working
[05:46] <sailerboy> what's a good web server for ubuntu on a vps?
[05:48] <lifeless> 10.04
[05:57] <collabra> I've a question.... does the 9.04 ubuntu-server include all the packages the desktop version does?
[05:57] <sailerboy> no
[05:57] <collabra> thank you,... i thought not
[05:57] <sailerboy> it doesnt include a desktop enviroment
[05:57] <sailerboy> afaik
[05:58] <lifeless> sailerboy: collabra: server *CD* does not include desktop packages.
[05:58] <lifeless> you can however install them with apt-get
[05:58] <lifeless> at which point it becomes the same thing
[05:59] <collabra> thanks,.. i just got banned from #ubuntu because i said the same thing.
[05:59] <sailerboy> really?
[05:59] <collabra> yeah
[05:59] <lifeless> that seems like an overreaction
[06:00] <collabra> extreme overreaction,... i was firm and blunt ,... no language or anything,...
[06:01] <collabra> but he kept instisting and i kept firm,.. and "boot",.. anyways ,... thanks for the affirm
[06:02] <JasonMSP> Anyone have a best solution for providing FTP access for my clients?  I want to lock them into their var/www/theirwebsite folder with no possible access anywhere else on the system.  Preferbally secure connection if possible.
[06:38] <ball> hello chilicuil
[06:38] <zenmower> make a symlink in their home directory
[06:59] <ball> Well, that's my latest batch of tests done.
[07:32] <alex88> twb: hi man..
[07:32] <alex88> i've got fine to run apache in chroot..but not the php script
[07:33] <twb> I don't really care.
[07:33] <alex88> k
[07:34] <alex88> it was a way to ask for help :)
[07:35] <intelliant> [12:03] <intelliant> Hello! [12:03] <intelliant> Is this a good place to discuss ldap client auth issues/ [12:03] <intelliant> ? [12:04] <intelliant> I am authenticating an ubuntu LTS 10.04 desktop client against a centos based openLDAP server following this guide - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication#Notes%20for%207.10%20and%20later
[07:36] <intelliant> hey! sorry for the copy/paste ^^ ? but i hope the request is understood ?
[07:41] <twb> intelliant: and what isn't working?
[07:42] <intelliant> twb: the client authentication throws me out randomly
[07:42] <intelliant> I was doing this for an ltsp-cluster setup on 10.04
[07:42] <twb> "randomly" as in it works sometime?
[07:42] <intelliant> yes it did work once 4 days ago and yesterday again it kept on dying on me
[07:42] <intelliant> i did nt change a thing
[07:43] <intelliant> even the package db seemed to be broken for some reason so I have actually trashed the entire setup and am starting anew
[07:44] <intelliant> wanted to know if the link above was the correct method to do client auth
[07:44] <intelliant> or is there a better and proven way
[07:44] <intelliant> ?
[07:44] <twb> client auth should simply be "sudo aptitude install ldap-auth-client"
[07:44] <intelliant> okay will try this as well this time and keep you posted
[07:45] <twb> The pam part is automatic as of 10.04
[07:45] <intelliant> twb: what's your timezone ?
[07:45] <twb> The nss part would still need to be done by auth-client-config(8), so I guess you'd also need to call it.
[07:45] <twb> intelliant: Australia/Melbourne.
[07:45] <intelliant> phew so only a few more hrs
[07:48] <intelliant> twb: i am a complete novice at ubuntu but may call myself a medium hand at linux and opensuse
[07:49] <intelliant> twb: so should i make the changes to  /etc/auth-client-config/profile.d/open_ldap  and then execute  auth-client-config -a -p open_ldap
[07:49] <intelliant> or do something differently?
[07:49] <twb> intelliant: you're using 10.04?
[07:50] <intelliant> yes
[07:50] <twb> OK, what I do is:
[07:51] <twb> 1) Install ldap-auth-config and ldap-utils; 2) run "auth-client-config -plac_ldap -tnss"; 3) add "bind_policy soft" and "pam_lookup_policy yes" to /etc/ldap.conf
[07:51] <intelliant> and using server edition for installing ltsp-root server and alternate for appserver as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSP-Cluster
[07:51] <twb> You only need (3) if you're using slapo-ppolicy(5) on the LDAP server.
[07:52] <intelliant> any changes in /etc/ldap/ldap.conf ?
[07:52] <intelliant> I am not using SSL, TLS etc as of now
[07:53] <twb> intelliant: those are the only changes I make to the client
[07:53] <twb> Installing ldap-auth-config should automatically configure ldap.conf and .secret
[07:55] <intelliant> twb: thanks for sharing your notes and guidance
[07:55] <intelliant> I shall revert with my results
[07:55] <twb> If you can, you should also update that documentation page you were reading
[07:56] <intelliant> yes, once i achieve success, will do so, till now I am only confused by all the random results
[08:11] <cemc> hey guys. I have problems installing a 10.04.1 amd64 server on a HP ProLiant DL385 G6
[08:12] <cemc> I'm using an usb stick which I created with the Startup Disk creator from another 10.04 desktop install
[08:12] <cemc> the server has 3xHDDs in RAID5, so ubuntu sees one sda. I boot from the usb stick, install ubuntu, everything seems fine
[08:13] <cemc> (nothing fancy, / partition, some swap and /opt). then I reboot, remove the usb, but the server won't boot, it's just "Attempting Boot from Harddisk", that's it
[08:15] <twb> shred -v is pretty cool
[08:15] <twb> Pity it's totally useless with a modern filesystem
[08:15] <cemc> then I go erase and recreate the raid5 from the controller menu. If I reboot, it goes on trying to boot from hdd, floppy, network, then reboots and tries again. that's all fine. but then, I try to boot from the stick again and it gives me error: no such dev: (UUID),
[08:15] <cemc> and I get a grub rescue> prompt
[08:15] <twb> cemc: I bet you've managed to install grub onto the USB key
[08:16] <twb> cemc: this is basically caused by grub2 being utterly evil and broken and retarded and I hate it
[08:16] <raywang> hello all, how to install posfix without further postinst? e.g. ignore the configuration stage when installing it
[08:16] <twb> What I do now, is load the installer into memory, then physically remove the USB key before partman starts, so that grub *can't* see the USB key and confuse it with the hard disk
[08:17] <cemc> twb: and how do you do that? the machine has 16gb ram, so that would be ok I guess
[08:17] <twb> Of course, this is only possible if you're using the netboot installer; the hd installers that want an .iso won't work because they need the .iso to stay visible
[08:17] <twb> cemc: loading the neboot media into memory only needs 16MB
[08:18] <cemc> twb: I see, but how exactly? what do I put on the usb? never did this before, only with normal iso on the usb stick
[08:18] <twb> You put these on: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/{linux,initrd.gz}
[08:19] <twb> Then you point whatever bootloader you have on your USB key at them
[08:26] <raywang> hi, all I was trying to install posfix without further postinst , so i append --pending, like dpkg -i --pending postfix.deb  but with no luck
[08:28] <cemc> twb: I don't need anything else on the stick, just these two files and syslinux.cfg ?
[08:28] <twb> cemc: well, and sylinux' ld.linux
[08:28] <cemc> sure, that too
[08:28] <twb> But yeah, that's all
[08:29] <twb> That basically contains enough to get the network working, and then everything else comes down from the networ
[08:29] <cemc> twb: and when do I pull out the usb stick?
[08:29] <twb> As soon as the kernel and ramdisk finish loading, you can pull it out
[08:43] <Jordan_U> twb: This bug has nothing to do with grub2, it's a bug in debian-installer which existed with grub legacy as well (which has finally been fixed in debian testing/unstable and Ubuntu Maverick).
[08:44] <Jordan_U> twb: When you get to the last screen of the installer there is a button labeled "advanced". Click that button and select the proper device for grub to be installed to.
[08:44] <Jordan_U> cemc: ^^
[08:46] <cemc> Jordan_U: yeah, I could've think of that myself... but I didn't think it's a grub thing. now I installed with twb's method, and it seems to work just fine. but just for the fun of it, I'll try that advanced thing
[08:46] <cemc> I guess it prefers sda over /dev/cciss/c0d0 ;)
[08:53] <twb> Jordan_U: I see no tab in d-i, booting with priority=low.
[08:53] <twb> Jordan_U: are you confusing d-i with ubiquity?
[08:54] <twb> (Indeed, IIRC without priority=low, it doesn't even prompt to install grub, it just does it.)
[08:54] <Jordan_U> twb: Yes and no. The bug is in debian-installer code which is shared in ubiquity but the "advanced" button is only in ubiquity :)
[08:54] <cemc> twb: it did ask me, I didn't use priority=low (whatever that is)
[08:55] <twb> Well, this is -server, so we don't have access to ubiquity.
[08:55] <Jordan_U> twb: Trying to figure out how to do the same from d-i right now.
[08:55] <twb> The real problem is that device.map changes after you remove the USB key.
[08:56] <twb> Because the BIOS temporarily places the USB key at (hd0) to boot the installer
[08:56] <Jordan_U> twb: No, that's not the real problem.
[08:56] <twb> If you say so
[08:56] <cemc> but _something_ gets installed on the hdd too
[08:56] <twb> cemc: I assume the stage2 does
[08:57] <cemc> could be
[09:00] <cemc> twb: but your way worked too, with the netboot thing. thanks!
[09:07] <intelliant> twb: ssh server does not get installed by default while installing the server
[09:07] <intelliant> choosing expert mode may allow me to choose but is there any other way after installaiton
[09:11] <Jordan_U> cemc: I can't find a way to change what device grub is installed to from the server installer, which is unfortunate even without this bug. twb's method might be the only way to work around this bug currently with a server install.
[09:21] <cemc> Jordan_U: I see, not really a problem here. Besides, this netboot install is kinda faster for me, I think
[09:21] <cemc> intelliant: apt-get install openssh-server ?
[09:22] <RudyValencia> How do I setup an identd for IRC?
[09:22] <RudyValencia> !identd
[09:23] <pnunn> Hi guys, got a bit of an issue with virtual ip's on an interface.  My interfaces file looks like this
[09:23] <pnunn> # The primary network interface
[09:23] <pnunn> auto eth0
[09:23] <pnunn> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[09:23] <pnunn> auto eth0:1
[09:23] <pnunn> iface eth0:1 inet static
[09:23] <pnunn> address 111.125.169.117
[09:23] <pnunn> netmask 255.255.255.240
[09:23] <pnunn> gateway 111.125.168.113
[09:23] <pnunn> but when I do an ifup I get
[09:23] <pnunn> Listening on LPF/eth0/d0:0d:42:20:07:96
[09:23] <pnunn> Sending on   LPF/eth0/d0:0d:42:20:07:96
[09:23] <pnunn> Sending on   Socket/fallback
[09:23] <pnunn> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
[09:23] <pnunn> DHCPOFFER of 172.19.1.6 from 169.254.169.254
[09:23] <pnunn> DHCPREQUEST of 172.19.1.6 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
[09:23] <pnunn> DHCPACK of 172.19.1.6 from 169.254.169.254
[09:23] <pnunn> bound to 172.19.1.6 -- renewal in 539 seconds.
[09:24] <pnunn> stop: Unknown instance:
[09:24] <pnunn> ssh start/running, process 2386
[09:24] <pnunn> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
[09:24] <pnunn> Failed to bring up eth0:1.
[09:24] <pnunn> However, ifconfig shows the interface existing and I can ping it.
[09:24] <pnunn> However, I can't ssh into it for some reason.. from the logs it seems I'm not even hitting it.
[09:24] <pnunn> Any ideas?
[09:25] <cemc> pnunn: first idea: use pastebin ;)
[09:25] <_ruben> joy .. my ubuntu vm (running in vmplayer) has decided to kernel oops on boot with some ext4 error
[09:25] <pnunn> oh.. sorry.. don't know what that is even.. lol.
[09:26] <cemc> pnunn: if you have something to show that's more than 1-2 lines long, use this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/, then paste only the link here
[09:26] <pnunn> cemc: OK, I'll keep that in mind... ta.
[09:27] <cemc> np
[09:27] <intelliant> cemc: remeber having tried that earlier
[09:27] <intelliant> will try that again and revert
[09:28] <intelliant> also installing ubuntu-server 64-bit as a kvm vm on opensuse host, any special cosiderations?
[09:31] <RudyValencia> How do I setup an identd for IRC on my Ubuntu server?
[09:34] <joschi> RudyValencia: install oidentd and configure it
[09:34] <joschi> RudyValencia: alternatives: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ident-server
[09:34] <RudyValencia> I have oidentd set up but I'm not sure how to configure it to respond to IRC servers' ident queries
[09:35] <RudyValencia> I can't figure out which settings to apply to it
[09:40] <cemc> if I don't have internet connection, squid fails to start with some DNS test failing. how could I disable that test so squid starts no matter what? I understand there's a -D option, but where should I set that?
[10:08] <soren> Man, debugging capabilities stuff /sucks/.
[10:10] <soren> I must have spent 4 hours wondering why the heck uml would open a file read-write just fine if run from the command line, but only read-write from libvirt.
[10:11] <soren> Turns out libvirt sheds all CAPs and file was owned by someuser:nogroup with mode 640, so root could only open it for reading.
[10:11] <soren> Er... someuser:root, I mean.
[10:16] <garymc> Hi im trying to tell my PoE switch to check my NTP server for time settings. How do I know what my NTP server settings are. I know the IP address but I dont know if its DNS or IPv4 etc
[10:16] <garymc> and what port it uses
[10:16] <soren> If you know the ip, you also know whether it's ipv4 or ipv6.
[10:17] <soren> "Whether it's DNS" makes no sense.
[10:17] <soren> As for the port, it seems unlikely that you changed the default, so that'd be 123.
[10:34] <a_ok> where can I find documentation for all things allowed in the upstart configuration?
[10:35] <joschi> a_ok: `man 5 init`
[10:40] <a_ok> joschi: thanks. i'm writing an upstart conf for iptables. the task stranza seems what I need but than I can not define a stop command
[10:48] <twb> a_ok: just install iptables-persistent
[10:49] <a_ok> twb: won't do in my case need custom stuff
[10:49] <twb> if you say so
[10:50] <a_ok> persistent cant load from a config file at a user defined location
[10:50] <ewook> anyone tried out Zimbra ?
[10:50] <twb> a_ok: just symlink it
[10:50] <twb> Or edit the init.d/iptables-persistent script; it's a conffile, so that's allowed
[10:51] <a_ok> twb: I already made an normal init.d script just wanted to see if I could do it the ubuntu way and make an upstart job out of it
[10:52] <twb> a_ok: what you'd do would be to write two upstart "task" jobs, one for up and one for down
[10:52] <twb> And trigger the latter "start on shutdown" or something
[10:54] <a_ok> twb: the think i wanted to do was "service iptables start" to load the rules and "service iptables stop" to flush the rules. I can make one or the other work but not both :(
[10:55] <twb> I'm amazingly unenthusiastic about upstart
[10:57] <xampart> i have /export as nfs-share. i did "mount --bind /some/other /export/dir", but it doesn't show at remote host
[10:58] <twb> xampart: unfortunately the NFS server is implemented in the kernel, and thus doesn't understand most other filesystem things
[10:58] <twb> xampart: you can either give up on that, or switch to the (slow, sucky) userspace NFS server.
[10:59] <garymc> soren ok, im just going off what my netgear switch options gives me.
[10:59] <xampart> so ext4 is the problem? cause my other (mount --rbind /home/%u/Maildir /export/mail/%u/Maildir) mount works
[11:00] <garymc> is there a way of checking the port is 123 as thats what I set in my PoE switch but it isnt registering a time stamp
[11:00] <twb> No, the problem is the NFS kernel server
[11:01] <xampart> why does my other mount work though?
[11:01] <twb> Because it's not a bind mount?
[11:01] <xampart> yes it is
[11:01] <twb> Hum, maybe you only need to rerun "exportfs", then
[11:02] <twb> I can't remember which specific bits NFS doesn't grok
[11:06] <xampart> i think it gets run every time nfs-kernel-server gets started
[11:06] <twb> Well, it gets magicked at boot
[11:06] <twb> But if you just now ran "mount -obind", you should rerun it
[11:07] <twb> Historically NFS exports only filesystems, not arbitrary directory trees, so you probably want an -r in there, too.
[11:10] <xampart> didn't do the trick
[11:10] <garymc> ok whats the differnce between NTP and SNTP?
[11:11] <xampart> it's simple?
[11:47] <a_ok> how do I list all services that are started for a sertain runlevel?
[11:48] <xampart> ls /etc/rc?.d/ | grep ^S
[11:48] <xampart> ? = leveel
[11:51] <a_ok> xampart: does this include upstart?
[11:52] <xampart> dunno
[11:52] <intelliant> is it advisable to have vm guests sync time using an ntp-server
[11:52] <intelliant> ?
[11:53] <joschi> intelliant: yes
[11:53] <a_ok> xampart: no it does not... so it is no help :(
[11:53] <a_ok> there seems to be no way to find out what will be started with a sertain runlevel
[11:54] <joschi> a_ok: `man initctl`
[11:54] <intelliant> joschi: came across this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/FAQ#Should%20ntp%20be%20used%20for%20time%20synchronisation?
[11:54] <intelliant> isn't it confusing?
[11:55] <intelliant> or have i misunderstood it?
[11:56] <joschi> intelliant: I thought you were talking about vmware VMs. for them see http://kb.vmware.com/kb/1006427
[11:57] <intelliant> sorry i was talking about VMs in general, but it seems there is a difference
[11:57] <joschi> intelliant: it basically depends on the virtualization technology you are using
[12:00] <a_ok> joschi: is mountall run at boot or not?
[12:01] <a_ok> I don't seem to get an answer to that question...
[12:01] <a_ok> not even with initctl
[12:04] <joschi> a_ok: `$ grep start\ on /etc/init/mountall.conf` -> "start on startup" -> see init(5)
[12:16] <kimda> Does Ubuntu 10.04 LTS with a HP Proliant DL160 G6 with P410 raid controller? Because I 've tried installing Debian Lenny amd64 on it but after installing I get a blinking cursor and no grub boot screen.
[12:19] <alex88> kimda: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/hp seems ok to 9.04 so i think also with 10.04
[12:24] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, well a couple of things might cause the tarball (.tar.gz) or the contents (.img, -floppy) to timestamps other than current.  the downloadinging software you're using might respect/keep the timestamp sent in the http header (generally a god thing).  And then, when you extract, tar will also keep the modification dates that are in the tarball.
[12:25] <smoser> both of those could be "fixed", by just setting the timestamp at the end, but would probably be better to store somewhere what those were, and compare versus them.  if they're not the same as your record says, then assume modified and re-extract.
[12:25] <kimda> alex88: thanks I will try it out
[12:26] <a_ok> joschi: with all the dependencies and emits its kinda hard to find out what is starting at your runlevel. thanks for the help though
[12:28]  * a_ok thinks upstart is a realy bad idea (to complex, very anoying for the admin. should be like gentoo's init)
[12:30] <alex88> kimda: np
[12:38] <soren> jdstrand: Dude.
[12:40] <alvin> Isn't Gentoo moving away from init? (I liked gentoo's system too.) I forgot the name, but it's not moving to upstart.
[12:46] <joschi> alvin: no
[12:50] <alvin> I might be mistaken. It's probably funtoo that uses another init system.
[12:59] <a_ok> yeah it uses another init system
[13:00] <a_ok> archlinux is even cruder. I must say that upstart is really advanced and probably the greatest for desktop. but I like gentoo's init best on servers
[13:01] <joschi> a_ok: well, arch linux uses a bsd style init. and that's fine for it's purpose ;)
[13:02] <alvin> I have mixed feelings about upstart. You need to do some things after booting that really should happen automatically. Like restarting libvirt-bin or quasselore ir you run those.
[13:03] <a_ok> joschi: ow didn't even know that it was bsd style. I use arch on my laptop and is the easist to configure. but you can easily screw up dependencies. and don't think it has runlevel seperation
[13:04] <a_ok> alvin: my problem is that I have to many services installed that I most of the time do not need running perminently or might even cause serious problems when they start on auto
[13:05] <a_ok> try forinstance updating open-iscsi when your server does an iscsi boot.... It will hang on shutdown
[13:06] <alvin> Ugly
[13:06] <a_ok> yep
[13:08] <a_ok> the problem in this case was more that ubuntu packages try to start services when installing and add them to be booted (what means that why will also be brought down on shutdown what was the problem in my case)
[13:09] <a_ok> s/why/they/
[13:11] <a_ok> I once took out the out the entire webserver because I was installing a package that included a website and thought it would be fun to restart apache after injecting its config file (what conflicted with our setup)
[13:11] <a_ok> nice thing to have on a production server...
[13:17] <Daviey> hallyn, Are you around?
[13:24] <lhavelund> a_ok: heh; I installed ebox at one point. when I decided I didn't want it, it nuked my server, removing openssh-server, apache and a bunch more packages.
[13:57] <ttx> hggdh: ping me when you're around
[14:15] <hggdh> ttx: I am here for the next few minutes
[14:15] <hggdh> (then on a Dr appointment for one hour)
[14:15] <ttx> Daviey: around ?
[14:16] <ttx> hggdh: wanted to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/eucalyptus to ensure it reflects current must-fix euca2 issues in Maverick
[14:17] <hggdh> ttx: will do, as soon as I return
[14:17] <ttx> hggdh: ping us when you're back.
[14:17] <ttx> (us=Daviey and me)
[14:18] <hggdh> ttx, Daviey: ack
[14:20] <Daviey> hggdh, o/
[14:34] <raubvogel> When you do add-apt-repository in 10.04, where are the repositories added to? I am not seeing any changes to /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:41] <_ruben> probably /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ then
[14:47] <mathiaz> zul: hi!
[14:47] <mathiaz> zul: what's the state of https://code.launchpad.net/~mathiaz/server-sru-tracker/visual-improvements/+merge/29329?
[14:48] <zul> mathiaz: i havent had a chance to work on it...perhaps today i can review it
[14:48] <mathiaz> zul: great - thnaks
[15:24] <Omahn> Has anyone successfully managed to deploy ganeti on Ubuntu 10.04 with the shipped packages?
[15:29] <rasengan> When an employee connects to the VPN, the server assigns itself an IP in the same subnet as the VPN.  However, if no employees are connected, the server no longer keeps the IP.  This, of course, causes daemons not to start because of failure to bind to the "non-existant" IP.  Anyone have any solutions?
[15:33] <zash> rasengan: bind to any ip, filter trafic not from tun*/vpn subnet
[15:34] <rasengan> zash: Ah, thank you.  Yes, I am an idiot. :D
[15:34]  * patdk-wk notes 127.* won't work :)
[15:35] <zash> 127.* is loopback
[15:35] <rasengan> I have another, more difficult question that I have actually made several attempts to fix.
[15:35] <rasengan> *               hard    memlock         16384
[15:36] <rasengan> I have added that line in /etc/security/limits.conf
[15:36] <rasengan> However, at boot when I chec the ulimit, the memlock limits is like 64 still T_T
[15:37] <rasengan> In another attempt, I added ulimit -l 16384 to /etc/rc.local and /etc/init.d/local (local sys startup script created as per instructions on ubuntu wiki)
[15:37] <rasengan> but still, when i connect and list the ulimits, the memlock is set to 64
[15:37] <rasengan> it is only set to 16384 when i manually login (as root0 and type ulimit -l 16384
[15:37] <rasengan> How can I set the memlock uliit to 16384 at boot? o_O
[15:41] <hallyn> Daviey: sorry, had so much actionable email i stayed of irc as long as possible :)
[15:41] <hallyn> Daviey: what's up?
[15:47] <patdk-wk> rasengan, works great for me! :)
[15:47] <patdk-wk> replace hard with -
[15:48] <rasengan> patdk-wk: ahh ok
[15:48] <rasengan> so *   - memlock 16384
[15:48] <rasengan> :D
[15:49] <Daviey> hallyn, Good Morning! :)
[15:49] <Daviey> hallyn, Do you have a qemu-kvm uploading waiting?
[15:49] <hallyn> heh we need mumble to do that justice
[15:49] <hallyn> hm, not that i know of
[15:49] <hallyn> i think it's all merged
[15:49] <hallyn> the latest one, for scsi-writeback in lucid, should be in -proposed now
[15:50] <Daviey> hallyn, for maverick?
[15:50] <hallyn> nope, 0.12.5 is the latest i uploaded.  why?
[15:50] <Daviey> So uploading https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~davewalker/ubuntu/maverick/qemu-kvm/623830 wouldn't get in your way?
[15:51] <hallyn> Daviey: nope, looks good :)
[15:51] <hallyn> thanks
[15:51] <hallyn> for asking
[15:52] <hallyn> Daviey: ^
[15:52] <Daviey> hallyn, awesome
[15:54] <zul> SpamapS: when you are around can you gimme a list of things you need sponsored/merged and within reason ill do it ;)
[16:06] <therobot> When installing glusterfs on ubuntu10.04, it seems that fuse module it's not added to /etc/modules so after a reboot glusterfs miserably fails to mount, is that an expected behavior?
[16:07] <patdk-wk> hmm, I would think it would, autofind the module
[16:07] <patdk-wk> putting it in etc/modules just force loads it
[16:08] <hggdh> ttx, Daviey: I am back
[16:08] <ttx> Daviey: ?
[16:10] <Daviey> ttx, o/
[16:11] <ttx> hggdh, Daviey: ok, let's do it !
[16:11] <therobot> patdk-wk: where I can check that fuse is mounted by autofind?
[16:11] <ttx> Daviey, hggdh, looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/eucalyptus
[16:11] <Daviey> ttx, Lets get it started in here!
[16:11] <ttx> bug 619843
[16:12] <patdk-wk> mounted by autofind?
[16:12] <ttx> hggdh: that's a 2.0 regression, right ?
[16:12] <patdk-wk> therobot, you mean, depmod
[16:12] <Daviey> erm
[16:12] <SpamapS> zul: cool, I'll whip up a list. :)
[16:12] <hggdh> correct; culprit is apparmour ;-) ;needs a change in eucalyptus
[16:12] <Daviey> it's a libvirt induced regression ttx
[16:13] <ttx> Daviey: so you already know how to fix it ?
[16:13] <hggdh> change in libvirt was to remove the 9008 patch; we need two changes in Euca
[16:13] <jdstrand> uhh
[16:13] <Daviey> ttx, yes, euca' needs to be added to a group.  That should land today
[16:13] <hggdh> jdstrand: just joking ;-)
[16:13] <jdstrand> 619843 is not an apparmor problem
[16:13] <jdstrand> ok
[16:13] <jdstrand> :)
[16:13] <hggdh> (sorry)
[16:13] <jdstrand> ttx: it is actually related to what we talked about earlier today
[16:14] <ttx> ok, setting to triaged, targeting to beta
[16:14] <jdstrand> ttx: the chowning stuff
[16:14] <therobot> patdk-wk: I mean: probably I am not checking in the right place, when rebooting a machine fuse module its not loaded, so I am looking to solve it, I was thinking on adding the module to /etc/modules, but probably there's a more modern approach to solve this
[16:14] <ttx> ack
[16:14] <Daviey> hggdh, two changes in euca?
[16:14] <hggdh> Daviey: we also need to change the depends on libvirt to >=
[16:14] <ttx> bug 622698
[16:14] <Daviey> hggdh, ah, that is the two?
[16:15] <hggdh> Daviey: yes ;-)
[16:15] <Daviey> ttx, Working on a local package at the moment, that should fix it.
[16:15] <ttx> Daviey: fix 622698 ?
[16:15] <Daviey> Having trouble getting euca from local repo to work at install time :/
[16:15] <Daviey> so kinda hard for me to confirm, but i believe so
[16:16] <ttx> ok, marking inprogress then
[16:16] <Daviey> I think it is that timing issue we outlined.. but the verbose logging is done
[16:16] <ttx> bug 610987
[16:16] <Daviey> ttx, it is makred in progress :)
[16:16] <Daviey> not in progress
[16:17] <ttx> Daviey: right, by me, 43 seconds ago :)
[16:17] <Daviey> just need to find somewhere suitable to put a comment in a man page to fix that, really
[16:17] <hggdh> Daviey: yes, that's it
[16:17] <ttx> ok, that one is not RC, so I'll unmilestone it. Nice to have in maverick though, so keeping targeted to Maverick
[16:18] <Daviey> +1
[16:18] <hggdh> er
[16:18] <ttx> bug 556763
[16:18] <ttx> Daviey: am I right in assuming this is *not* a regression, but present in 1.6.2 ?
[16:19] <Daviey> +1
[16:19] <hggdh> correct
[16:19] <ttx> ok, so it's nice to fix, but not RC for beta
[16:19] <Daviey> yeah..
[16:19] <hggdh> there is one more thing
[16:19] <hggdh> I opened a bug on start/stop eucalyptus does not start/stop all
[16:20] <Daviey> erm
[16:20] <Daviey> eucalyptus or uec-compon'?
[16:20] <hggdh> eucalyptus
[16:20] <hggdh> right now, when I stop I have to 'initctl list | grep euca
[16:20] <hggdh> to find what really stopped
[16:21] <hggdh> and amanually stop the rest
[16:21] <hggdh> samewise for start
[16:21] <hggdh> this is not really helpful on production deployments
[16:21]  * Daviey reproduces
[16:21] <ttx> Daviey, hggdh: ideally that list should have all regressions as maverick/milestoned... and all "should fix" bugs that are not regressions as maverick/not-milestoned
[16:22] <ttx> Daviey, hggdh: does the current list contents reflect that ?
[16:22] <hggdh> ttx: I understand. I proposing this one to be milestoned
[16:22] <ttx> or should we pick more bugs from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus
[16:22] <ttx> hggdh: sure, bug number ?
[16:22] <hggdh> bug 617496
[16:23] <Daviey> hggdh,  http://pb.daviey.com/wtZo/
[16:23] <ttx> hggdh: I suspect this is not a regression ?
[16:23] <hggdh> I do not *think* it is a regression
[16:23] <Daviey> ttx, I believe the list is current
[16:24] <ttx> I don't think we changed anything in that area, so must also be in 1.6.2
[16:24] <hggdh> Daviey: go figure :-( I think this is Yet Another Race
[16:24] <ttx> targeting to Maverick, not milestoned
[16:24] <Daviey> hmmmm
[16:24] <hggdh> ttx: I do not remember it then
[16:24] <ttx> if we establish it's a regression we can bump it by milestoning it.
[16:25] <hggdh> ttx: ack
[16:25] <hggdh> Daviey: it is very easy for me to reproduce...
[16:25] <ttx> Daviey: you'd keep that one off the hitlist ?
[16:25] <Daviey> hggdh, Hmm.. actually... i need to investigate that further
[16:26] <ttx> Daviey, hggdh: ideally the list at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus would be triaged and current, but our worktime is limited... could we have alook at the High bugs there ?
[16:26] <hggdh> Daviey: OK. Since I can reproduce it easily, we can check on it later
[16:26] <ttx> bug 564355
[16:27] <hggdh> yes, and Euca has just assigned someone to it
[16:27] <Daviey> ttx, I did spend a little time yesterday looking at the catch all
[16:27] <ttx> I think we could spend a few cycles trying to verify this one... and potentially make the UEC in Maverick ebtter than the one in Lucid :)
[16:28] <ttx> should probably have an upstream task open
[16:28] <ttx> ok that I target it as a 'good-to-have' for Maverick ?
[16:28] <ttx> (and open euca upstream task) ?
[16:29] <hggdh> ttx: OK for me
[16:29] <ttx> Daviey: ?
[16:29] <hggdh> I should be able to reproduce it easily
[16:29] <Daviey> sounds good!
[16:30] <hggdh> no, not as easy
[16:30] <Daviey> hggdh, they commented on three bugs last night i believe, following a request for update
[16:30] <hggdh> Daviey: they did, assigning some to them
[16:30] <ttx> ok, done
[16:30] <ttx> bug 585108
[16:31] <ttx> I don't think the status for this one is right
[16:32] <ttx> since we have no clue what the problem is, I suspect
[16:32] <Daviey> yeah
[16:32] <ttx> I'll push it to New / Medium
[16:32] <ttx> it neeeds some reproduction
[16:33] <ttx> and definitely doesn't affect everyone
[16:33] <ttx> hggdh, Daviey: ack ?
[16:33] <Daviey> ttx, Agreed - we are lacking love on the SRU lookout tbh
[16:33] <hggdh> ttx: ack. I still do not like the 'not finding nodes' issue, though
[16:33] <Daviey> it's been a little while since i ran lucid uec
[16:34] <hggdh> same here, cannot have both on the rig
[16:34] <hggdh> (except for the 10.04.1 tests)
[16:34] <ttx> ok, done
[16:35] <ttx> anything else in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus that would stand out ? like, as a critical issue or a regression ?
[16:35] <hggdh> ttx: looking at them
[16:36] <ttx> maybe bug 617053
[16:37] <ttx> Daviey: bug 613535 is, I think, fixed now ?
[16:37] <JasonMSP> Can anyone suggest a good FTP solution for me?  I need to provide FTP access for some of my clients but I want to constrain them to their /srv/www/theirwebsite folder.  I also don't want to have to adduser to create an account for every one needing access (im ok if this is completely out of the realm of possibility)???
[16:38] <Daviey> ttx, no.. need to add torrent client as a Depends
[16:39] <hggdh> ttx: not fixed by us, as far as I know. We need to add a depends (bit-torrent|bit-tornado)
[16:39] <Daviey> will fix in bzr shortly
[16:39] <Daviey> possibly Recommends actually.
[16:39] <ttx> ok, that one would be for Maverick too... maybe even milestoned to beta ?
[16:39] <hggdh> and I am not sure how bug 617053 has been fixed by us
[16:39] <Daviey> +1
[16:39] <hggdh> +1
[16:40] <ttx> ok, done
[16:40]  * hggdh would also really like to know *what* uses torrent
[16:40] <Daviey> hggdh, Hm.. we should have that fix
[16:40] <Daviey> hggdh, They did explain in the bug
[16:40] <Daviey> didn't they?
[16:40] <hggdh> Daviey: well, yes. perhaps I am dense, though
[16:40] <ttx> marked fixrreleased without comment 15 hours ago
[16:41] <zul> JasonMSP: vsftpd
[16:41] <ttx> i'll add it to the hitlist, targeted to -beta, so that we doublecheck it
[16:41] <hggdh> +1
[16:41] <Daviey> ttx, Ack
[16:42] <ttx> done
[16:42] <hggdh> ttx, Daviey: one interesting is bug 613216
[16:42] <hggdh> ttx, Daviey: my reasoning is either we do not need these values, or we are missing important stuff
[16:42] <hggdh> but this should be cleared
[16:43] <hggdh> (probably by moving the file structure to /var/lib/eucalyptus?)
[16:43] <ttx> hggdh: I won't push it to the hitlist since it's far from being the only obscure warning in the logs
[16:43] <JasonMSP> zul:  i've got VSFTPD installed.  Am I correct that I need to use adduser everytime I want to give someone access and then set their homefolder to /srv/www/theirwebsite?  Doing this and then ftp:theirwebsite on firefox allows you to click .. to go up and they can see all the way up to /
[16:43] <ttx> feel free to bump its importance if you can link it to something that breaks
[16:44] <hggdh> ttx: ack, and agreed
[16:44] <ttx> euca is looking at it, from &5hours ago
[16:44] <ttx> 15hours
[16:44] <zul> JasonMSP: not sure check vsftpd's website and documentation
[16:44] <Daviey> \o/
[16:44] <hggdh> ttx, Daviey: OK. One more: bug 622818
[16:44] <JasonMSP> zul:  been looking.  Haven't had much success.
[16:45] <hggdh> I *really* do not know WTF happened, and I *really* do not like it
[16:45] <hggdh> ttx, Daviey: and this is not the first time something like that happens
[16:45] <ttx> hggdh: difficult to push it to the hitlist as it stands
[16:45] <ttx> hggdh: maybe mention it in the call tomorrow ?
[16:45] <hggdh> ttx: ack, good idea
[16:45] <Daviey> hggdh, Whilst that is a concerning situation... i'm going to need to both push that upstream and try and reproduce it
[16:46] <ttx> ok. I think we are good
[16:46]  * Daviey is very good :)
[16:46] <hggdh> good boy, good boy!
[16:46] <ttx> all in all we are in good shape, if that buglist corresponds to the reality of the existing bugs
[16:46] <hggdh> we certainly are much better now
[16:47] <zul> Daviey: have a cookie
[16:47] <Daviey> zul, awesome.
[16:47] <ttx> try to keep https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/eucalyptus very up to date
[16:47] <ttx> as this is our common communication ground with eucalyptus
[16:47] <hggdh> ack
[16:47] <Daviey> ttx, I see it as my job to keep that list empty, and hggdh's job to fill it up..  Who will win?
[16:48] <hggdh> Daviey: wanna bet? :-)
[16:48] <Daviey> no :)
[16:48] <hggdh> :-)
[16:48] <ttx> DavidLevin: you will win, as long as he needs me to nominate them :P
[16:48] <ttx> Daviey: ^
[16:48] <Daviey> heh
[16:48] <hggdh> ttx: well, actually I do not *need* you, I can nominate them myself...
[16:48] <hggdh> I just do not like to do that without feedback
[16:49] <ttx> hggdh: rightn let's say, "need to go by me"
[16:49] <hggdh> ttx: oh. Now *that* is unfair ;-)
[16:49] <ttx> hggdh, Daviey: thanks guys, keep up the good work
[16:49] <Daviey> rockin'
[16:49] <Daviey> ttx, moment to mumble?
[16:49] <ttx> sure
[16:58] <SpamapS> jjohansen: I'm trying to figure out why ceph is missing from the -virtual kernels .. bug 622953 .. any thoughts?
[17:03] <jjohansen> SpamapS: hrmm, it shouldn't be I am guessing the config got accidentally dropped when -virtual got split into its own flavor.
[17:04] <jjohansen> SpamapS: I'll get a config pull request together today
[17:14] <JasonMSP> Anyone else have thoughts on FTP access?  Im looking for a solution to provide FTP access for my clients to their /srv/www/folder but I don't want them anywhere else on the system.  VSFTP has been recommended which I've installed but not coming up with a suitable working solution. I don't want to adduser everytime I want to give a new user access to the clients ftp folder.
[17:15] <pmatulis> JasonMSP: so allow them to connect with a common user
[17:16] <pmatulis> JasonMSP: i think i may have misunderstood you.  each client has their own area?
[17:16] <pmatulis> JasonMSP: in that case i don't see why you resist creating a user for each client
[17:17] <JasonMSP> pmatulis: each client has their own website I am hosting for them.  Your suggestion may be suitable if the clients are ok with one login, but that may not be the case.
[17:18] <JasonMSP> pmatulis:  probably because Im obsessive about organization and giving as little access as possible to any part of the server.  I also have not been able to successfully root them to their folder.  They arrive at their folder but then can cd .. up
[17:18] <pmatulis> JasonMSP: well you just need to grok chrooting in vsftpd then
[17:19] <pmatulis> JasonMSP: if your clients are savvy-enough an alternative is sftp
[17:24] <JasonMSP> pmatulis: SFTP was suggested the other day but from what I have read on the manpages this is even further over my head.
[17:25] <pmatulis> JasonMSP: are your clients Windows people?
[17:25] <JasonMSP> pmatulis:  i think they will need a gui so if I understand SFTP correctly it is just like sshing into the system?
[17:25] <JasonMSP> pmatulis: Mostly apple at the moment, but some windows.
[17:26] <JasonMSP> pmatulis:  I can recommend suitable FTP clinents for them.  Thats not a problem.
[17:26] <pmatulis> JasonMSP: well setting up chrooted sftp is not hard
[17:27] <SpamapS> jjohansen: ty! :)
[17:30] <JasonMSP> pmatulis:  so your saying SFTP is a better solution then VSFTP for what Im looking to do?  How about setting up users?  Is it the same adduser...?
[17:31] <pmatulis> JasonMSP: they are pretty much the same in terms of what you're intending to do
[17:32] <Daviey> ttx, Sed'ing the Packages list was all i had to do :)
[17:32] <Daviey> ttx, you rock.
[17:32] <JasonMSP> pmatulis: found this which seems pretty straightforward http://shapeshed.com/journal/chroot_sftp_users_on_ubuntu_intrepid/
[17:32] <pmatulis> JasonMSP: there you go
[17:35] <JasonMSP> pmatulis:  big thanks.
[17:37] <zul> ivoks: ping
[17:38] <ivoks> zul: pong
[17:38] <zul> ivoks: is #524341 redy to go?
[17:38] <ivoks> bug #524341
[17:39] <ivoks> yes
[17:39] <ivoks> :)
[17:39] <JasonMSP> pmatulis:  is this necessary??  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/rhel-centos-linux-install-configure-rssh-shell.html
[17:43] <zul> ivoks: done
[17:44] <ivoks> zul: thank you
[17:44] <zul> ivoks: no problem
[17:51] <pmatulis> JasonMSP: i've never used that but it looks good
[17:52] <pmatulis> JasonMSP: i'm actually going to try this out when i get a chance
[17:55] <ajaya> hello folks. I have been the Karmic 32 bit image on EC2.
[17:55] <ajaya> been getting swapper: page
[17:55] <ajaya> allocation failure. order:5, mode:0x20  errors. 
[17:55] <ajaya> shall I be worried/
[18:02] <zul> spam spam spam
[18:03] <JasonMSP> pmatulis: Thanks.  Just gave you my IM if im not up on IRC
[18:07] <Xpistos> Can someone direct me to get help for landscape?
[18:11] <pmatulis> Xpistos: what is the problem?
[18:12] <Xpistos> I want to write a script that will open "screen -S irssi" and then start irssi on my server. I tried but it wouldn't run the screen command and said it needs a terminal
[18:15] <shauno> Xpistos: try with -m as well?
[18:15] <todd> @reboot screen -d -m -S irssi irssi
[18:24] <Xpistos> shauno: what does the -d and -m tags do?
[18:25]  * SpamapS has hiccups
[18:27] <Xpistos> shauno: trying it out now
[18:29] <Daviey> mathiaz, bug #537451
[18:30] <ball> Daviey!
[18:30] <hggdh> smoser: I will add testing of the loader, thanks for the heads up
[18:31] <smoser> thanks man
[18:31] <Daviey> hey ball
[18:31] <hggdh> you are very welcome
[18:33] <Xpistos> shauno: and it sure did work. thanks!
[18:45] <Italian_Plumber> If ubuntu server is based on debian linux, why does the installation for ubuntu fit on a CD, but you need five DVDs for debian?
[18:45] <bventura> good morning!  hey is there a way to use the command line to tell if you need to reboot after applying updates with "aptitude safe-upgrade" ?  the only way I see that now is if I log out and then log back in, its on the MOTD......
[18:45] <Italian_Plumber> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/i386/bt-dvd/
[18:46] <patdk-wk> Italian_Plumber, I don't see how they have anything to do with each other, as far as that goes
[18:46] <patdk-wk> and actually, I normally burn ubuntu to a dvd, not a cd
[18:47] <Italian_Plumber> well who buys blank CDs anymore.  :)
[18:47] <patdk-wk> I do
[18:48] <patdk-wk> why would I waste a dvd for 100megs, when a cd works, and is 3-4x less expensive
[18:48] <ball> ...and arguably more reliable.
[18:49]  * patdk-wk default install method is pxe though
[18:49] <ball> s/reliable/robust/
[18:51] <dominicdinada> how to remove gnome and xorg from a server without disturbing anything else ?
[18:51] <patdk-wk> remove ubuntu-desktop?
[18:52] <dominicdinada> yes
[18:52] <patdk-wk> then do it :)
[18:52] <dominicdinada> Well how do you go about doing it without breaking the server install. IE settings for network, shares etc
[18:53]  * patdk-wk wonders what one has to do with the other
[18:53] <patdk-wk> if you using gnome things to manage the server, then yes, it will break
[18:53] <patdk-wk> that is your fault for not moving that stuff out first though
[18:53] <dominicdinada> ummm wouldnt the auto up interfaces ? not work anymore ?
[18:54] <dominicdinada> patdk-wk: 4tb is way to much to back up
[18:54] <patdk-wk> it would, but if your using network-manager
[18:54] <patdk-wk> who said anything about backup?
[18:54]  * patdk-wk runs
[18:54] <dominicdinada> oh just the network files ?
[18:54] <dominicdinada> and samba shares  ?
[18:55] <dominicdinada> ok i guess i should ask it like this.
[18:55] <dominicdinada> when REmoving the gnome desktop. Will it have ANY effect at all on the samba shares. network, hosts, user, etc files ?
[18:55] <patdk-wk> maybe
[18:56] <patdk-wk> did you use network/interfaces for network/hosts/..., or network-manager :)
[18:56] <bventura> dominic: just back up your /etc/networking/interfaces file and /etc/samba/smb.comf and everything should be OK
[18:56]  * dominicdinada hands patdk-wk a six shot revolver with one bullet... maybe
[18:56] <dominicdinada> bventura:  ok :P
[18:56] <patdk-wk> well, I dunno what you did, or how you configured the server :)
[18:56] <patdk-wk> you won't loose anything by uninstalling
[18:57] <bventura> and if you do those two files I mention should be all you need to get it back
[18:57] <patdk-wk> but if you used it like a desktop, and setup samba shares like a desktop, I wouldn't know
[18:57] <fx> hi guys, i wonder if youd be able to give me a quick hand, people at #vsftpd are unresponsive, I need to chroot all users to one directory
[18:57] <dominicdinada> it is not a wireless interface but i seem to remember by default prior to the gnome desktop install that the network never auto connected. even though i set it to do so
[18:59] <Italian_Plumber> http://www.linux-gnu.com/buydistro.html <--- designed on a very wide monitor. :)
[19:00] <patdk-wk> wide?
[19:00] <patdk-wk> that doesn't even fill up half my width :) but it's long and large as hell :)
[19:05] <dominicdinada> oh and i got like 5 other questions also
[19:05] <dominicdinada> When you remove the desktop, will it effect the samba server, apache, mysql, php daemons from starting with the machine that was another concern
[19:10] <patdk-wk> dominicdinada, only if you really screwed up your machine
[19:10] <dominicdinada> ok
[19:11] <dominicdinada> so to remove desktop i just remove the gnome-desktop package and it should pull all the crapware off also
[19:12] <patdk-wk> unless you manually installed something that uses X/gnome/..., yes
[19:20] <dominicdinada> could an update have caused the server to set a default bandwidth, I have noticed over the last month that the bandwidth to the server never exceeds 400kbs when before I was reaching 1.5mbps since it is only a local server there is no increased traffic
[19:22] <patdk-wk> the simple answer, yes
[19:22] <patdk-wk> an update *could* of done anything :)
[19:22] <patdk-wk> is that your issue, 99.999% sure an update didn't cause your problem
[19:23] <dominicdinada> i check the logs and nothing to suspect anything otherwise, as it is set to drop almost all external packets not local to the network
[19:23] <patdk-wk> first, what is the problem?
[19:24] <patdk-wk> you said local server
[19:24] <dominicdinada> yes
[19:24] <patdk-wk> so I dunno how local server has external packets
[19:24] <dominicdinada> i dont trust someone getting past crappy routers
[19:26] <dominicdinada> in my router logs there is alot of activity with people attempting to gain access, but it is stopped at the router level. anyhow going from a 1.5mbps connection to maxing at 350kbs makes streaming anything impossible. The cap on file transfers was set to none but 65kbps is unacceptable
[19:38] <kandjar> hi there,
[19:39] <kandjar> How to setup the directory right so that the group and permission gets propagated to newly created sub-directory properly?
[19:40] <kandjar> if I set the initial folder to: "chmod g+s" it only propagate the group name
[19:40] <kandjar> but the permission aren't setup properly...
[19:42] <sjm> dominicdinada, patdk-wk, isn't the "gnome-desktop" a virtual package and would removing it remove only it?
[19:45] <sjm> dominicdinada, patdk-wk wouldn't you want, instead to remove something like the base xserver-xorg package?
[19:49] <dominicdinada> should i remove that as well
[19:49] <dominicdinada> although it crashed my grub and has 4 kernels listed everything else went fine
[19:51] <dominicdinada> ok not everything went fine it is now refusing my ssh connections :(
[19:52] <dominicdinada> ugh it is denying everything besides my http requests
[19:52] <dominicdinada> !ssh
[19:56] <dominicdinada> sjm: why would it kill my ssh server?
[19:56] <dominicdinada> !runlevel
[19:57] <sjm> try dpkg -l | grep ssh to see if it uninstalled openssh.
[19:58] <dominicdinada> ok
[19:59] <thesheff17> Any reason an IBM x336 server wouldn't boot with ubuntu 10.04 amd?
[19:59]  * SpamapS enters hour #2 w/ hiccups
[20:00] <dominicdinada> says its there ii
[20:01] <dominicdinada> sjm:  host  key error o restart
[20:03] <dominicdinada> listem addy is #
[20:12] <dominicdinada> sjm: ok reinstalling the ssh server i get these errors. ufw triggers failed. ERROR problem running
[20:13] <jdstrand> that is non-fatal
[20:13] <dominicdinada> ok
[20:14] <dominicdinada> now what to do about the grub fail :( wont have access physically every reboot etc...
[20:14] <dominicdinada> 4 kernels listed
[20:14] <dominicdinada> .24 .23 .22 .21 :/
[20:18] <thesheff17> any reason ubuntu 10.04 32 bit would boot fine but a 64 bit doesn't...though the machine is 64 bit.
[20:19] <dominicdinada> thesheff17: drivers?
[20:20] <dominicdinada> thesheff17: 32bit and 64bit OS as different as a VW BEETLE and a Ferrari
[20:20] <thesheff17> dominicdinada: weird since I'm just using the install cd :-/
[20:20] <thesheff17> dominicdinada: yea I want to use 64 bit and don't know why it won't boot
[20:20] <dominicdinada> Ubuntu may not have say 64bit video drivers for your video card. and then it errors
[20:20] <sjm> dominicdinada, what do you mean grub fails.  It runs and lists the kernels, no?  The timeout doesn't boot the default kernel?
[20:21] <sjm> dominicdinada, you can uninstall the old kernels through apt.
[20:22] <sjm> dominicdinada, sorry, can't do much more now, have to get back to a couple of other things.
[20:23] <thesheff17> dominicdinada: actually I know that I have put Ubuntu 8.04 AMD on one of these boxes before...weird it doesn't work with Ubuntu 10.04 AMD
[20:28] <dominicdinada> !hostname
[20:34] <dominicdinada> !upstart
[20:35] <schelcj> can ubuntu-server be installed with an lvm root partion?
[20:36] <mdeslaur> Daviey: I just uploaded libvirt and virt-manager to maverick to fix the tcsh shell issue. They tested fine for me, but please let me know if they don't solve it for you.
[20:37] <dominicdinada> holy crap this thing is running 5x slower now that gnome desktop is gone
[20:37] <sherr> schelcj: yes
[20:38] <dominicdinada> SSH is ungodly slow worse than a 486, queries to mysql DB take alot longer. Ya.... trade security for speed....
[20:38] <schelcj> sherr: i just did an install that failed to find my root lv because the vg didn't exist
[20:38] <sherr> schelcj: Oh well. Try again. I do it all the time.
[20:39] <schelcj> sherr: i have reinstalled many times each with new errors
[20:40] <schelcj> sherr: here is the error i get at boot http://ressik.dyndns.org/~schelcj/vulcan001.jpg
[20:44] <alvin> sherr: bug 360378
[20:45] <alvin> Oops, I meant schelcj
[20:45] <BrixSat> hello
[20:45] <BrixSat> i have setted up a vpn server and it working ok, the problem is i dont have internet when connected to it
[20:46] <BrixSat> any help?
[20:51] <thesheff17> dominicdinada: downloaded the latest 10.04.1 amd and it worked fine
[20:52] <schelcj> alvin: so this is a known bug, what is the fix? i see mention of editing the grub conf, but i can't do that without mounting root
[21:04] <alvin> schelcj: There is no fix. For me upgrading to lucid helps on most servers.
[21:07] <schelcj> alvin: this is lucid
[21:08] <alvin> schelcj: Mark the bug as affecting you
[21:13] <schelcj> looks like i am also hitting up against bug 452350
[21:13] <kirkland> hallyn: around?
[21:15] <hallyn> kirkland: .
[21:15] <kirkland> hallyn: okay, i'm struggling trying to get a running uec-live desktop iso created
[21:16] <kirkland> hallyn: i had to make a few changes to your bzr branch just to get it building
[21:16] <kirkland> hallyn: when i boot what i build, though, it eventually drops me to a busybox initramfs
[21:16] <kirkland> hallyn: saying it can't find a live fs
[21:16] <hallyn> you're building on a maverick host now, i assume?
[21:17] <kirkland> hallyn: yes
[21:17] <kirkland> hallyn: i think most of my changes had to do with that
[21:17] <hallyn> were they anything scary?
[21:17] <hallyn> (btw - linux magazine's article for the day was about 'cloud in your pocket' - but not yours :( )
[21:17] <kirkland> hallyn: nothing too bad
[21:18] <hallyn> so what sort of error msg before initramfs prompt?
[21:18] <hallyn> failure to mount /root?
[21:18] <kirkland> hallyn: hmm, well, the final error looks like:
[21:18] <kirkland> (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[21:19] <kirkland> hallyn: i figured you might have seen this
[21:20] <hallyn> well, in other places we had to specify the LIVEMEDIA= option but i don't think we should have to here
[21:20] <hallyn> I'm trying to remember where I built that
[21:20] <kirkland> hallyn: yeah, there's no need for persistence here
[21:20] <kirkland> hallyn: just iso only
[21:20] <kirkland> hallyn: i dropped toram and persistent
[21:21] <kirkland> hallyn: mounting root file system looks okay
[21:22] <kirkland> hallyn: hangs for a long while at Running /scripts/casper-premount ... done.  done.
[21:23] <hallyn> yeah iyeah sounds familiar
[21:23] <hallyn> man i keep hitting the moronic wireless-off physical switch
[21:24] <kirkland> hallyn: yeah, i wish my x200 didn't even have one of those
[21:25] <hallyn> kirkland: looking nthrough my uec cloud bzr branch nothing rings a bell.  i can give it a shot if you like, but have no off-the-cuff insights
[21:26] <kirkland> hallyn: okay, i'll fight with it
[21:26] <hallyn> (well, i've never looked at how 'toram' is exactly implemented in live-helper, taking a quick look)
[21:27] <hallyn> i see it's casper
[21:27] <hallyn> kirkland: why did you remove toram exactly?
[21:30] <hallyn> kirkland: a hunch tells me that keeping toram may make it work.  that otherwise the root disk may be deemed busy when trying to mount it
[21:30] <hallyn> (prolly wrong, but...)
[21:31] <dominicdinada> WTF
[21:31] <dominicdinada> stupid server
[21:32] <hallyn> dominicdinada: kick it
[21:33] <dominicdinada> hallyn: not far from it
[21:38] <dominicdinada> hallyn: I got it somewhat working but the darn thing is hanging on the boot screen. I can ssh into it,. webmin into it. Mount files systems into it. But the box is stuck at finding a fqdn for mysql WTF
[21:38] <dominicdinada> frqwhgqewhgforqgioirgrogivilgs;vs;qeep wiqpeiwg
[21:43] <Daviey> mdeslaur, awesome! :)
[21:43] <Daviey> mdeslaur, Thanks for that
[21:43] <mdeslaur> np!
[21:48] <hggdh> smoser: --use-loader seems to be working fine
[21:49] <Daviey> SpamapS, When working on the development release of euca', any chance you could base your branch on  lp:~ubuntu-virt/ubuntu/maverick/eucalyptus/2.0 rather than lp:ubuntu/eucalyptus ?
[21:49] <Daviey> SpamapS, The last change i manually merged your changes into that branch, but it makes life much easier if it's based on that to start with :)
[21:49] <Daviey> SpamapS, (thanks for working on it btw) :)
[21:50] <Daviey> SpamapS, Don't worry about adjusting this one.. i'll manually do it
[22:18] <JasonMSP> whats the option on the cp command that will create the directories if they don't exist.  I thought it was -r but Im not being able to copy this file and Im not understanding the manpages
[22:20] <YankDownUnder> JasonMSP, Um...thought it was just "cp -rf"
[22:21] <JasonMSP> might be the f i am leaving out
[22:22] <YankDownUnder> Yeppers mate - just "cp -rf" => that'll do it...
[22:22] <zash> -f is just force/owerwrite afai
[22:22] <YankDownUnder> Ah well, works either which way...
[22:23] <JasonMSP> stilll not working.  the directory doesn't already exist in the copy to location.  am i missing something?   cp -rf filea /etc/filea
[22:24] <YankDownUnder> jasonb_, Hang on...lemme try something on my server...
[22:25] <JasonMSP> sudo is being used of cours
[22:27] <YankDownUnder> Well, seems to work for me here...copied the contents of one dir such as: cp -Rf /home/user/Applications/CurseTheWeather /home/user/temp => copied fine and dandy
[22:27] <JasonMSP> does it matter that it is a file and then im copying into a new directory that doesn't exist?
[22:28] <YankDownUnder> JasonMSP, Um...reckon ya lost me on that one...
[22:31] <dominicdinada> !dansguardian
[22:31] <JasonMSP> got it working but I did it the long way.  mkdir... cp...
[23:03] <JasonMSP> anyone have vsftpd with ssl working on their system?
[23:20] <Daviey> mathiaz, Thanks for the upload!