| drumhead | Using Ubuntu Studio 10.4, JACK, linux-rt, firewire driver (FFADO), Presonus Firepod. JACK starts, but stops itself within seconds | 03:35 |
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| drumhead | getting error: firewire ERR: Could not start streaming threads: -1, DRIVER NT: could not start driver | 03:35 |
| holstein | hey drumhead | 03:35 |
| * holstein has a firepod | 03:35 | |
| holstein | your in luck :) | 03:36 |
| holstein | drumhead: open jackcontrol | 03:36 |
| holstein | dont start JACK yet | 03:36 |
| holstein | just open 'setup' | 03:36 |
| holstein | and uncheck the realtime box | 03:36 |
| holstein | then set the sample rate to 44.1 | 03:37 |
| drumhead | ok | 03:37 |
| holstein | and set frames/periods to 512 | 03:37 |
| holstein | and periods/buffer to 3 | 03:37 |
| drumhead | done | 03:38 |
| holstein | after that, what is the ms latency reading down in the right? | 03:38 |
| holstein | lower right? | 03:38 |
| holstein | 60 or so? | 03:38 |
| drumhead | 34.8 | 03:38 |
| holstein | that'll do | 03:38 |
| holstein | OK | 03:38 |
| holstein | close that | 03:38 |
| drumhead | done | 03:39 |
| holstein | go ahead and close JACK | 03:39 |
| holstein | what firewire card do you have? | 03:39 |
| holstein | texas intruments is the deal | 03:39 |
| drumhead | its a Rosewill | 03:39 |
| holstein | hmmm | 03:39 |
| holstein | do you see it in lspci ? | 03:39 |
| holstein | run | 03:39 |
| drumhead | I think it is VIA unfortunately | 03:39 |
| holstein | lspci in a terminal | 03:39 |
| holstein | and double check | 03:39 |
| holstein | i got a VIA thats not bad actually | 03:39 |
| holstein | totally useable | 03:39 |
| holstein | but i use TI when possible | 03:40 |
| drumhead | FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller (rev 80) | 03:40 |
| drumhead | I've heard that about TI, good news about VIA though--thought I might be screwed | 03:41 |
| drumhead | above was from lspci, btw | 03:41 |
| holstein | lets go on | 03:41 |
| holstein | and we'll emilinate some other things | 03:41 |
| drumhead | ok | 03:41 |
| holstein | first | 03:41 |
| holstein | run | 03:41 |
| holstein | cat /proc/interrupts | 03:41 |
| holstein | and maybe put that in pastebin | 03:42 |
| holstein | what we are looking for | 03:42 |
| drumhead | not sure about pastebin, sorry | 03:42 |
| holstein | no worries | 03:42 |
| holstein | go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 03:42 |
| holstein | and paste your output from cat /proc/interrupts | 03:43 |
| holstein | and drop me the link | 03:43 |
| drumhead | http://paste.ubuntu.com/483215/ | 03:43 |
| holstein | COOL | 03:44 |
| holstein | so | 03:44 |
| holstein | 17: 146391 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394 | 03:44 |
| holstein | i read that as your firewire being off by itself | 03:44 |
| holstein | which is good | 03:44 |
| holstein | drumhead: OK | 03:44 |
| holstein | in a terminal | 03:44 |
| holstein | well... | 03:44 |
| holstein | before that | 03:44 |
| holstein | how do you have it hooked up? | 03:44 |
| holstein | try unplugging any other firewire gear | 03:45 |
| drumhead | no other firewire gear is plugged in | 03:45 |
| holstein | with the old freebob driver, i could have an external HD going too | 03:45 |
| drumhead | have bare bones | 03:45 |
| holstein | but now that seems to be broken | 03:45 |
| holstein | ANYWAYS | 03:45 |
| holstein | run | 03:45 |
| holstein | sudo qjackctl | 03:45 |
| holstein | and try starting jack | 03:45 |
| holstein | make sure | 03:45 |
| holstein | you have the firewire driver | 03:45 |
| drumhead | ok, stopped almost immediately | 03:46 |
| holstein | and hopefully we get the awesome blue light | 03:46 |
| drumhead | should I run in verbose? | 03:46 |
| holstein | hmmm | 03:46 |
| drumhead | does go blue for a few seconds | 03:47 |
| holstein | drumhead: run | 03:47 |
| holstein | uname -a | 03:47 |
| holstein | make sure you are booting the RT kernel | 03:47 |
| holstein | still should be able to run though | 03:47 |
| drumhead | Linux ustudio00 2.6.31-11-rt #154-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Wed Jun 9 12:28:53 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux | 03:47 |
| holstein | if your getting the light for a second | 03:47 |
| holstein | im suspicious of that VIA chip then | 03:48 |
| holstein | i cant remember what the exact chip i had was | 03:48 |
| holstein | and its not in a box right now or id look | 03:48 |
| drumhead | the worst part is that i had it running for a couple hours last night, but with not-so-great latency in a vanilla kernel | 03:48 |
| holstein | hmmm | 03:48 |
| drumhead | installed the rt kernel today, and neither work | 03:49 |
| holstein | interesting | 03:49 |
| holstein | drumhead: well | 03:49 |
| holstein | i can run mine stable at around 2.4 ms | 03:49 |
| holstein | so you'll get there | 03:49 |
| drumhead | what kind of hardware to you have? | 03:49 |
| holstein | i had a P4 | 03:49 |
| holstein | with a gig of ram | 03:50 |
| holstein | and TI chip | 03:50 |
| holstein | 2.4 i think | 03:50 |
| holstein | nothing special | 03:50 |
| holstein | and i got that | 03:50 |
| drumhead | i have another machine that i'll try next with an AMD 3800+, 2 GB ram, and a different firewire card... maybe better luck with it | 03:50 |
| holstein | i got a dual core box recently | 03:50 |
| drumhead | did the dual core help? | 03:50 |
| holstein | drumhead: there is a couple live discs | 03:50 |
| holstein | that make it easy to test | 03:50 |
| holstein | drumhead: i go in and run sudo qjackctl | 03:51 |
| holstein | and test the firepod | 03:51 |
| holstein | that saves some time | 03:51 |
| drumhead | hrm... UbuntuStudio live disc? | 03:51 |
| holstein | hmmm, the dual core didnt hurt :) | 03:51 |
| holstein | http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ | 03:51 |
| holstein | kxstudio is live, and very similar to ubuntu | 03:52 |
| drumhead | what you use? | 03:52 |
| holstein | i like to test with http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html too | 03:52 |
| holstein | drumhead: i use ubuntustudio | 03:52 |
| holstein | and im working on a live disc for it | 03:52 |
| drumhead | nice | 03:52 |
| holstein | i gotta get a friend to help :/ | 03:53 |
| persia | The problem with live environments is that the overlay filesystems tend to increase latency (although they are *great* for investigating look&feel) | 03:53 |
| holstein | i'll get it though | 03:53 |
| holstein | but til then | 03:53 |
| drumhead | well, i'm a programmer, but new to linux, would help if i would be worth anything to you | 03:53 |
| drumhead | :) | 03:53 |
| holstein | ^^ those are good | 03:53 |
| holstein | persia: totally | 03:53 |
| holstein | i just like to see if the hardware will work | 03:53 |
| holstein | without waiting on an install | 03:54 |
| drumhead | gotcha | 03:54 |
| drumhead | well, that makes sense | 03:54 |
| drumhead | you've been a great help | 03:54 |
| persia | holstein, It's great for that too. | 03:54 |
| holstein | drumhead: its do-able | 03:54 |
| holstein | quite nice acutally | 03:54 |
| holstein | drumhead: how long you had the firepod? | 03:54 |
| drumhead | i hope so, i don't like my windows/cubase setup... i've had it about a year and a half | 03:55 |
| holstein | cool | 03:55 |
| holstein | i used cubase/XP for years | 03:55 |
| holstein | i felt like someone bought me a ton of new gear though | 03:55 |
| holstein | when i got JACK and everything up and running :) | 03:55 |
| drumhead | yeah, i'm excited about learning how to use ardour and jamin, etc. | 03:56 |
| holstein | drumhead: check out #opensourcemusicians | 03:56 |
| drumhead | do you play an instrument then? | 03:56 |
| holstein | theres a podshow | 03:56 |
| holstein | and some handy info | 03:56 |
| holstein | drumhead: i play bass | 03:56 |
| drumhead | podshow? | 03:56 |
| holstein | drumhead: podcast? | 03:56 |
| holstein | audio show | 03:56 |
| holstein | live broadcast | 03:57 |
| holstein | i studied percussion in school though | 03:57 |
| drumhead | will check it out then | 03:57 |
| holstein | and switched to bass | 03:57 |
| drumhead | nice, where did you go to school? | 03:57 |
| holstein | western carolina university | 03:57 |
| holstein | here in the woods :) | 03:57 |
| drumhead | hah | 03:57 |
| drumhead | unfortunately i've had very little musical schooling | 03:58 |
| holstein | good for you :) | 03:58 |
| drumhead | lol | 03:58 |
| holstein | yeah, i dropped out when i figured out you can get paid to play | 03:59 |
| holstein | http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2010/03/03/new-release-from-ron-brendle-and-mike-holstein-rhizome/ | 03:59 |
| holstein | thats the latest thing i got | 03:59 |
| holstein | interesting 2 bass project | 03:59 |
| drumhead | very cool... i have bookmarked it and will check it out when i get sound working on this stupid thing | 04:00 |
| holstein | drumhead: what kind of programming are you into ? | 04:01 |
| holstein | im sure the ubuntustudio team would be interested in that kind of help | 04:01 |
| drumhead | currently i work for a GIS company doing mostly C# programming | 04:02 |
| drumhead | but, i've been meaning to learn a bit about signal processing, etc for a while | 04:03 |
| holstein | and now you can | 04:03 |
| holstein | pure date seems cool | 04:03 |
| holstein | and i bet its easy if your a programmer | 04:03 |
| holstein | puredata* | 04:03 |
| drumhead | interesting. I hadn't heard of that... also bookmarked. | 04:04 |
| drumhead | well, thanks for all the help holstein | 04:05 |
| holstein | drumhead: anytime | 04:05 |
| drumhead | i'm sure i'll see you around here some time | 04:05 |
| antidonee | whats the latest version | 14:37 |
| antidonee | of us | 14:37 |
| persia | 10.04 | 14:37 |
| antidonee | is that over a year old | 14:40 |
| persia | No. Four months. | 14:40 |
| antidonee | whens the next release | 14:42 |
| persia | October | 14:43 |
| antidonee | right around the cornr | 14:44 |
| persia | Yep. | 14:44 |
| antidonee | is there a beta version before the relase | 14:47 |
| persia | Yep. | 14:47 |
| persia | !schedule | 14:47 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 14:48 |
| persia | That wasn't quite what I expected :( | 14:48 |
| persia | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule | 14:48 |
| persia | Beta in just over a week. | 14:48 |
| antidonee | is that studioo tho | 14:49 |
| persia | Same archives. Same schedule. | 14:49 |
| antidonee | i c | 14:50 |
| antidonee | wow dates on things that havent happend yet | 14:53 |
| antidonee | 10/10/10 on 10.10 | 14:53 |
| persia | That's the plan. | 14:54 |
| antidonee | everyone is goign to throw a massive party | 14:59 |
| antidonee | and get loaded and be installing 10.10 | 15:00 |
| persia | Lots of folks do that every year. Join #ubuntu-release-party the day of release. | 15:01 |
| persia | (it doesn't exist before then) | 15:01 |
| antidonee | are the file timestmpe going to be 10:10 am ha ha | 15:02 |
| persia | I doubt it, but it would be nifty. | 15:02 |
| antidonee | yes, 10.10 was a great idea | 15:03 |
| antidonee | lots of smart people around to save the day | 15:04 |
| Davidmp | how do i use the feisty artwork? | 20:02 |
| holstein | hey Davidmp | 20:02 |
| Davidmp | i downloaded it but i want to activate it | 20:02 |
| Davidmp | hey | 20:02 |
| holstein | try in themes | 20:02 |
| holstein | Davidmp: are you running 10.04? | 20:03 |
| Davidmp | yeah its awesome | 20:03 |
| holstein | system-preferences-apperance | 20:03 |
| holstein | and find the wallpaper | 20:03 |
| holstein | where ever it is | 20:03 |
| Davidmp | and i noticed that the ubuntu studio uses gnome as its service name | 20:04 |
| Davidmp | any way to change that? | 20:04 |
| holstein | Davidmp: service name? | 20:04 |
| holstein | DNS ? | 20:05 |
| Davidmp | no | 20:06 |
| Davidmp | when you first start ubuntu there are sessions | 20:06 |
| Davidmp | ubuntu studio is named gnome though | 20:06 |
| holstein | hmmm | 20:06 |
| Davidmp | -ill be off and on so sorry i dont answer- | 20:06 |
| holstein | im not sure what you mean | 20:06 |
| holstein | i think out there | 20:06 |
| holstein | you are choosing between gnome or KDE | 20:07 |
| holstein | or whatever LXDE | 20:07 |
| Davidmp | yeah brb | 20:30 |
| davidmp | i dont see a session for ubuntu studio -just restarted for updates- | 20:33 |
| davidmp | is it just installing apps and a theme? | 20:34 |
| holstein | davidmp: by the time you get to that login screen | 20:34 |
| davidmp | mmhm | 20:34 |
| holstein | you can only login to ubuntu | 20:34 |
| davidmp | how do i get ubuntu s? | 20:34 |
| holstein | session lets you choose between gnome or whatever | 20:34 |
| holstein | ubuntu = ubuntustudio | 20:35 |
| davidmp | o.o it looks different | 20:35 |
| holstein | the studio part is just some extra meta packages of software | 20:35 |
| holstein | yeah | 20:35 |
| holstein | and a theme | 20:35 |
| holstein | and no network manager | 20:35 |
| davidmp | ive had ubuntu studio over xubuntu | 20:35 |
| davidmp | is that why it looks a little different? | 20:35 |
| holstein | so, your running XFCE? | 20:35 |
| davidmp | different icons etc | 20:35 |
| davidmp | i was i run ubuntu now | 20:35 |
| holstein | SO | 20:36 |
| holstein | how did you install ubuntu? | 20:36 |
| davidmp | i did a fresh install from the iso | 20:37 |
| holstein | from a xubuntu disc? | 20:37 |
| davidmp | wiped the harddisk | 20:37 |
| davidmp | no | 20:37 |
| davidmp | from a usb flsh drive using ubuntu | 20:37 |
| davidmp | from ubuntu.com | 20:37 |
| holstein | OK | 20:37 |
| holstein | then you added the ubuntustudio stuff | 20:37 |
| davidmp | yes | 20:37 |
| holstein | SO you've got vanilla ubuntu | 20:37 |
| davidmp | yes | 20:37 |
| holstein | gnome | 20:37 |
| holstein | and you added the ubuntustudio meta packages | 20:37 |
| davidmp | no session? | 20:38 |
| holstein | the session is still gnome | 20:38 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio just themes gnome | 20:38 |
| davidmp | ahh ok | 20:38 |
| holstein | differently | 20:38 |
| davidmp | i sorta like xfce version of ubuntu studio lol | 20:38 |
| holstein | you can run whatever widnow manager you want | 20:39 |
| holstein | and use the ubuntustudio software | 20:39 |
| davidmp | just have to install ubuntu studio meta packages correct | 20:39 |
| holstein | what i do | 20:39 |
| holstein | i tell folks to go to synaptic | 20:39 |
| holstein | and search ubuntustudio | 20:39 |
| holstein | and read about the packages | 20:39 |
| davidmp | mk | 20:39 |
| holstein | i only get the audio ones | 20:39 |
| davidmp | im a animator lol | 20:40 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio-audio | 20:40 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio-audio-plugings | 20:40 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio-audio-plugins* | 20:40 |
| holstein | and linux-rt | 20:40 |
| holstein | and ubuntustudio-controls | 20:40 |
| holstein | davidmp: so you dont need most of that stuf | 20:40 |
| holstein | f | 20:40 |
| davidmp | yeah | 20:40 |
| holstein | you probably only need ubuntustudio-graphics and ubuntustudio-video | 20:40 |
| davidmp | SO i can install xubuntu over ubuntu and download ubuntu studio to that? | 20:41 |
| holstein | OR you can just go and install the packages you want/use | 20:41 |
| holstein | davidmp: you can install the meta-packages into whatever | 20:41 |
| holstein | but the theme related ones will only work in gnome | 20:41 |
| holstein | i wouldnt get the theme related ones with XFCE or LXDE | 20:42 |
| holstein | or KDE | 20:42 |
| davidmp | yeah | 20:42 |
| holstein | you can install xubuntu | 20:42 |
| holstein | and run sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-video ubuntustudio-graphics | 20:42 |
| holstein | thats probably all you need | 20:43 |
| davidmp | thank you for all your help | 20:43 |
| holstein | anytime | 20:43 |
| holstein | davidmp: you can also | 20:43 |
| holstein | opps | 20:43 |
| holstein | oh well | 20:43 |
| holstein | installing xubuntu-desktop would be easier :/ | 20:44 |
| plotino | hi all | 22:29 |
| plotino | there is any guitar tuner in ubuntu studio? | 22:29 |
| plotino | anybody in? | 22:52 |
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