[03:35] Using Ubuntu Studio 10.4, JACK, linux-rt, firewire driver (FFADO), Presonus Firepod. JACK starts, but stops itself within seconds [03:35] getting error: firewire ERR: Could not start streaming threads: -1, DRIVER NT: could not start driver [03:35] hey drumhead [03:35] * holstein has a firepod [03:36] your in luck :) [03:36] drumhead: open jackcontrol [03:36] dont start JACK yet [03:36] just open 'setup' [03:36] and uncheck the realtime box [03:37] then set the sample rate to 44.1 [03:37] ok [03:37] and set frames/periods to 512 [03:37] and periods/buffer to 3 [03:38] done [03:38] after that, what is the ms latency reading down in the right? [03:38] lower right? [03:38] 60 or so? [03:38] 34.8 [03:38] that'll do [03:38] OK [03:38] close that [03:39] done [03:39] go ahead and close JACK [03:39] what firewire card do you have? [03:39] texas intruments is the deal [03:39] its a Rosewill [03:39] hmmm [03:39] do you see it in lspci ? [03:39] run [03:39] I think it is VIA unfortunately [03:39] lspci in a terminal [03:39] and double check [03:39] i got a VIA thats not bad actually [03:39] totally useable [03:40] but i use TI when possible [03:40] FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller (rev 80) [03:41] I've heard that about TI, good news about VIA though--thought I might be screwed [03:41] above was from lspci, btw [03:41] lets go on [03:41] and we'll emilinate some other things [03:41] ok [03:41] first [03:41] run [03:41] cat /proc/interrupts [03:42] and maybe put that in pastebin [03:42] what we are looking for [03:42] not sure about pastebin, sorry [03:42] no worries [03:42] go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [03:43] and paste your output from cat /proc/interrupts [03:43] and drop me the link [03:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/483215/ [03:44] COOL [03:44] so [03:44] 17: 146391 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394 [03:44] i read that as your firewire being off by itself [03:44] which is good [03:44] drumhead: OK [03:44] in a terminal [03:44] well... [03:44] before that [03:44] how do you have it hooked up? [03:45] try unplugging any other firewire gear [03:45] no other firewire gear is plugged in [03:45] with the old freebob driver, i could have an external HD going too [03:45] have bare bones [03:45] but now that seems to be broken [03:45] ANYWAYS [03:45] run [03:45] sudo qjackctl [03:45] and try starting jack [03:45] make sure [03:45] you have the firewire driver [03:46] ok, stopped almost immediately [03:46] and hopefully we get the awesome blue light [03:46] should I run in verbose? [03:46] hmmm [03:47] does go blue for a few seconds [03:47] drumhead: run [03:47] uname -a [03:47] make sure you are booting the RT kernel [03:47] still should be able to run though [03:47] Linux ustudio00 2.6.31-11-rt #154-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Wed Jun 9 12:28:53 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux [03:47] if your getting the light for a second [03:48] im suspicious of that VIA chip then [03:48] i cant remember what the exact chip i had was [03:48] and its not in a box right now or id look [03:48] the worst part is that i had it running for a couple hours last night, but with not-so-great latency in a vanilla kernel [03:48] hmmm [03:49] installed the rt kernel today, and neither work [03:49] interesting [03:49] drumhead: well [03:49] i can run mine stable at around 2.4 ms [03:49] so you'll get there [03:49] what kind of hardware to you have? [03:49] i had a P4 [03:50] with a gig of ram [03:50] and TI chip [03:50] 2.4 i think [03:50] nothing special [03:50] and i got that [03:50] i have another machine that i'll try next with an AMD 3800+, 2 GB ram, and a different firewire card... maybe better luck with it [03:50] i got a dual core box recently [03:50] did the dual core help? [03:50] drumhead: there is a couple live discs [03:50] that make it easy to test [03:51] drumhead: i go in and run sudo qjackctl [03:51] and test the firepod [03:51] that saves some time [03:51] hrm... UbuntuStudio live disc? [03:51] hmmm, the dual core didnt hurt :) [03:51] http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ [03:52] kxstudio is live, and very similar to ubuntu [03:52] what you use? [03:52] i like to test with http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html too [03:52] drumhead: i use ubuntustudio [03:52] and im working on a live disc for it [03:52] nice [03:53] i gotta get a friend to help :/ [03:53] The problem with live environments is that the overlay filesystems tend to increase latency (although they are *great* for investigating look&feel) [03:53] i'll get it though [03:53] but til then [03:53] well, i'm a programmer, but new to linux, would help if i would be worth anything to you [03:53] :) [03:53] ^^ those are good [03:53] persia: totally [03:53] i just like to see if the hardware will work [03:54] without waiting on an install [03:54] gotcha [03:54] well, that makes sense [03:54] you've been a great help [03:54] holstein, It's great for that too. [03:54] drumhead: its do-able [03:54] quite nice acutally [03:54] drumhead: how long you had the firepod? [03:55] i hope so, i don't like my windows/cubase setup... i've had it about a year and a half [03:55] cool [03:55] i used cubase/XP for years [03:55] i felt like someone bought me a ton of new gear though [03:55] when i got JACK and everything up and running :) [03:56] yeah, i'm excited about learning how to use ardour and jamin, etc. [03:56] drumhead: check out #opensourcemusicians [03:56] do you play an instrument then? [03:56] theres a podshow [03:56] and some handy info [03:56] drumhead: i play bass [03:56] podshow? [03:56] drumhead: podcast? [03:56] audio show [03:57] live broadcast [03:57] i studied percussion in school though [03:57] will check it out then [03:57] and switched to bass [03:57] nice, where did you go to school? [03:57] western carolina university [03:57] here in the woods :) [03:57] hah [03:58] unfortunately i've had very little musical schooling [03:58] good for you :) [03:58] lol [03:59] yeah, i dropped out when i figured out you can get paid to play [03:59] http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2010/03/03/new-release-from-ron-brendle-and-mike-holstein-rhizome/ [03:59] thats the latest thing i got [03:59] interesting 2 bass project [04:00] very cool... i have bookmarked it and will check it out when i get sound working on this stupid thing [04:01] drumhead: what kind of programming are you into ? [04:01] im sure the ubuntustudio team would be interested in that kind of help [04:02] currently i work for a GIS company doing mostly C# programming [04:03] but, i've been meaning to learn a bit about signal processing, etc for a while [04:03] and now you can [04:03] pure date seems cool [04:03] and i bet its easy if your a programmer [04:03] puredata* [04:04] interesting. I hadn't heard of that... also bookmarked. [04:05] well, thanks for all the help holstein [04:05] drumhead: anytime [04:05] i'm sure i'll see you around here some time [14:37] whats the latest version [14:37] of us [14:37] 10.04 [14:40] is that over a year old [14:40] No. Four months. [14:42] whens the next release [14:43] October [14:44] right around the cornr [14:44] Yep. [14:47] is there a beta version before the relase [14:47] Yep. [14:47] !schedule [14:48] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [14:48] That wasn't quite what I expected :( [14:48] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule [14:48] Beta in just over a week. [14:49] is that studioo tho [14:49] Same archives. Same schedule. [14:50] i c [14:53] wow dates on things that havent happend yet [14:53] 10/10/10 on 10.10 [14:54] That's the plan. [14:59] everyone is goign to throw a massive party [15:00] and get loaded and be installing 10.10 [15:01] Lots of folks do that every year. Join #ubuntu-release-party the day of release. [15:01] (it doesn't exist before then) [15:02] are the file timestmpe going to be 10:10 am ha ha [15:02] I doubt it, but it would be nifty. [15:03] yes, 10.10 was a great idea [15:04] lots of smart people around to save the day [20:02] how do i use the feisty artwork? [20:02] hey Davidmp [20:02] i downloaded it but i want to activate it [20:02] hey [20:02] try in themes [20:03] Davidmp: are you running 10.04? [20:03] yeah its awesome [20:03] system-preferences-apperance [20:03] and find the wallpaper [20:03] where ever it is [20:04] and i noticed that the ubuntu studio uses gnome as its service name [20:04] any way to change that? [20:04] Davidmp: service name? [20:05] DNS ? [20:06] no [20:06] when you first start ubuntu there are sessions [20:06] ubuntu studio is named gnome though [20:06] hmmm [20:06] -ill be off and on so sorry i dont answer- [20:06] im not sure what you mean [20:06] i think out there [20:07] you are choosing between gnome or KDE [20:07] or whatever LXDE [20:30] yeah brb [20:33] i dont see a session for ubuntu studio -just restarted for updates- [20:34] is it just installing apps and a theme? [20:34] davidmp: by the time you get to that login screen [20:34] mmhm [20:34] you can only login to ubuntu [20:34] how do i get ubuntu s? [20:34] session lets you choose between gnome or whatever [20:35] ubuntu = ubuntustudio [20:35] o.o it looks different [20:35] the studio part is just some extra meta packages of software [20:35] yeah [20:35] and a theme [20:35] and no network manager [20:35] ive had ubuntu studio over xubuntu [20:35] is that why it looks a little different? [20:35] so, your running XFCE? [20:35] different icons etc [20:35] i was i run ubuntu now [20:36] SO [20:36] how did you install ubuntu? [20:37] i did a fresh install from the iso [20:37] from a xubuntu disc? [20:37] wiped the harddisk [20:37] no [20:37] from a usb flsh drive using ubuntu [20:37] from ubuntu.com [20:37] OK [20:37] then you added the ubuntustudio stuff [20:37] yes [20:37] SO you've got vanilla ubuntu [20:37] yes [20:37] gnome [20:37] and you added the ubuntustudio meta packages [20:38] no session? [20:38] the session is still gnome [20:38] ubuntustudio just themes gnome [20:38] ahh ok [20:38] differently [20:38] i sorta like xfce version of ubuntu studio lol [20:39] you can run whatever widnow manager you want [20:39] and use the ubuntustudio software [20:39] just have to install ubuntu studio meta packages correct [20:39] what i do [20:39] i tell folks to go to synaptic [20:39] and search ubuntustudio [20:39] and read about the packages [20:39] mk [20:39] i only get the audio ones [20:40] im a animator lol [20:40] ubuntustudio-audio [20:40] ubuntustudio-audio-plugings [20:40] ubuntustudio-audio-plugins* [20:40] and linux-rt [20:40] and ubuntustudio-controls [20:40] davidmp: so you dont need most of that stuf [20:40] f [20:40] yeah [20:40] you probably only need ubuntustudio-graphics and ubuntustudio-video [20:41] SO i can install xubuntu over ubuntu and download ubuntu studio to that? [20:41] OR you can just go and install the packages you want/use [20:41] davidmp: you can install the meta-packages into whatever [20:41] but the theme related ones will only work in gnome [20:42] i wouldnt get the theme related ones with XFCE or LXDE [20:42] or KDE [20:42] yeah [20:42] you can install xubuntu [20:42] and run sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-video ubuntustudio-graphics [20:43] thats probably all you need [20:43] thank you for all your help [20:43] anytime [20:43] davidmp: you can also [20:43] opps [20:43] oh well [20:44] installing xubuntu-desktop would be easier :/ [22:29] hi all [22:29] there is any guitar tuner in ubuntu studio? [22:52] anybody in?