[03:35] <drumhead> Using Ubuntu Studio 10.4, JACK, linux-rt, firewire driver (FFADO), Presonus Firepod. JACK starts, but stops itself within seconds
[03:35] <drumhead> getting error: firewire ERR: Could not start streaming threads: -1, DRIVER NT: could not start driver
[03:35] <holstein> hey drumhead
[03:35]  * holstein has a firepod
[03:36] <holstein> your in luck :)
[03:36] <holstein> drumhead: open jackcontrol
[03:36] <holstein> dont start JACK yet
[03:36] <holstein> just open 'setup'
[03:36] <holstein> and uncheck the realtime box
[03:37] <holstein> then set the sample rate to 44.1
[03:37] <drumhead> ok
[03:37] <holstein> and set frames/periods to 512
[03:37] <holstein> and periods/buffer to 3
[03:38] <drumhead> done
[03:38] <holstein> after that, what is the ms latency reading down in the right?
[03:38] <holstein> lower right?
[03:38] <holstein> 60 or so?
[03:38] <drumhead> 34.8
[03:38] <holstein> that'll do
[03:38] <holstein> OK
[03:38] <holstein> close that
[03:39] <drumhead> done
[03:39] <holstein> go ahead and close JACK
[03:39] <holstein> what firewire card do you have?
[03:39] <holstein> texas intruments is the deal
[03:39] <drumhead> its a Rosewill
[03:39] <holstein> hmmm
[03:39] <holstein> do you see it in lspci ?
[03:39] <holstein> run
[03:39] <drumhead> I think it is VIA unfortunately
[03:39] <holstein> lspci in a terminal
[03:39] <holstein> and double check
[03:39] <holstein> i got a VIA thats not bad actually
[03:39] <holstein> totally useable
[03:40] <holstein> but i use TI when possible
[03:40] <drumhead> FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller (rev 80)
[03:41] <drumhead> I've heard that about TI, good news about VIA though--thought I might be screwed
[03:41] <drumhead> above was from lspci, btw
[03:41] <holstein> lets go on
[03:41] <holstein> and we'll emilinate some other things
[03:41] <drumhead> ok
[03:41] <holstein> first
[03:41] <holstein> run
[03:41] <holstein> cat /proc/interrupts
[03:42] <holstein> and maybe put that in pastebin
[03:42] <holstein> what we are looking for
[03:42] <drumhead> not sure about pastebin, sorry
[03:42] <holstein> no worries
[03:42] <holstein> go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:43] <holstein> and paste your output from cat /proc/interrupts
[03:43] <holstein> and drop me the link
[03:43] <drumhead> http://paste.ubuntu.com/483215/
[03:44] <holstein> COOL
[03:44] <holstein> so
[03:44] <holstein>  17:     146391   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ohci1394
[03:44] <holstein> i read that as your firewire being off by itself
[03:44] <holstein> which is good
[03:44] <holstein> drumhead: OK
[03:44] <holstein> in a terminal
[03:44] <holstein> well...
[03:44] <holstein> before that
[03:44] <holstein> how do you have it hooked up?
[03:45] <holstein> try unplugging any other firewire gear
[03:45] <drumhead> no other firewire gear is plugged in
[03:45] <holstein> with the old freebob driver, i could have an external HD going too
[03:45] <drumhead> have bare bones
[03:45] <holstein> but now that seems to be broken
[03:45] <holstein> ANYWAYS
[03:45] <holstein> run
[03:45] <holstein> sudo qjackctl
[03:45] <holstein> and try starting jack
[03:45] <holstein> make sure
[03:45] <holstein> you have the firewire driver
[03:46] <drumhead> ok, stopped almost immediately
[03:46] <holstein> and hopefully we get the awesome blue light
[03:46] <drumhead> should I run in verbose?
[03:46] <holstein> hmmm
[03:47] <drumhead> does go blue for a few seconds
[03:47] <holstein> drumhead: run
[03:47] <holstein> uname -a
[03:47] <holstein> make sure you are booting the RT kernel
[03:47] <holstein> still should be able to run though
[03:47] <drumhead> Linux ustudio00 2.6.31-11-rt #154-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Wed Jun 9 12:28:53 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:47] <holstein> if your getting the light for a second
[03:48] <holstein> im suspicious of that VIA chip then
[03:48] <holstein> i cant remember what the exact chip i had was
[03:48] <holstein> and its not in a box right now or id look
[03:48] <drumhead> the worst part is that i had it running for a couple hours last night, but with not-so-great latency in a vanilla kernel
[03:48] <holstein> hmmm
[03:49] <drumhead> installed the rt kernel today, and neither work
[03:49] <holstein> interesting
[03:49] <holstein> drumhead: well
[03:49] <holstein> i can run mine stable at around 2.4 ms
[03:49] <holstein> so you'll get there
[03:49] <drumhead> what kind of hardware to you have?
[03:49] <holstein> i had a P4
[03:50] <holstein> with a gig of ram
[03:50] <holstein> and TI chip
[03:50] <holstein> 2.4 i think
[03:50] <holstein> nothing special
[03:50] <holstein> and i got that
[03:50] <drumhead> i have another machine that i'll try next with an AMD 3800+, 2 GB ram, and a different firewire card... maybe better luck with it
[03:50] <holstein> i got a dual core box recently
[03:50] <drumhead> did the dual core help?
[03:50] <holstein> drumhead: there is a couple live discs
[03:50] <holstein> that make it easy to test
[03:51] <holstein> drumhead: i go in and run sudo qjackctl
[03:51] <holstein> and test the firepod
[03:51] <holstein> that saves some time
[03:51] <drumhead> hrm... UbuntuStudio live disc?
[03:51] <holstein> hmmm, the dual core didnt hurt :)
[03:51] <holstein> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
[03:52] <holstein> kxstudio is live, and very similar to ubuntu
[03:52] <drumhead> what you use?
[03:52] <holstein> i like to test with http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html too
[03:52] <holstein> drumhead: i use ubuntustudio
[03:52] <holstein> and im working on a live disc for it
[03:52] <drumhead> nice
[03:53] <holstein> i gotta get a friend to help :/
[03:53] <persia> The problem with live environments is that the overlay filesystems tend to increase latency (although they are *great* for investigating look&feel)
[03:53] <holstein> i'll get it though
[03:53] <holstein> but til then
[03:53] <drumhead> well, i'm a programmer, but new to linux, would help if i would be worth anything to you
[03:53] <drumhead> :)
[03:53] <holstein> ^^ those are good
[03:53] <holstein> persia: totally
[03:53] <holstein> i just like to see if the hardware will work
[03:54] <holstein> without waiting on an install
[03:54] <drumhead> gotcha
[03:54] <drumhead> well, that makes sense
[03:54] <drumhead> you've been a great help
[03:54] <persia> holstein, It's great for that too.
[03:54] <holstein> drumhead: its do-able
[03:54] <holstein> quite nice acutally
[03:54] <holstein> drumhead: how long you had the firepod?
[03:55] <drumhead> i hope so, i don't like my windows/cubase setup... i've had it about a year and a half
[03:55] <holstein> cool
[03:55] <holstein> i used cubase/XP for years
[03:55] <holstein> i felt like someone bought me a ton of new gear though
[03:55] <holstein> when i got JACK and everything up and running :)
[03:56] <drumhead> yeah, i'm excited about learning how to use ardour and jamin, etc.
[03:56] <holstein> drumhead: check out #opensourcemusicians
[03:56] <drumhead> do you play an instrument then?
[03:56] <holstein> theres a podshow
[03:56] <holstein> and some handy info
[03:56] <holstein> drumhead: i play bass
[03:56] <drumhead> podshow?
[03:56] <holstein> drumhead: podcast?
[03:56] <holstein> audio show
[03:57] <holstein> live broadcast
[03:57] <holstein> i studied percussion in school though
[03:57] <drumhead> will check it out then
[03:57] <holstein> and switched to bass
[03:57] <drumhead> nice, where did you go to school?
[03:57] <holstein> western carolina university
[03:57] <holstein> here in the woods :)
[03:57] <drumhead> hah
[03:58] <drumhead> unfortunately i've had very little musical schooling
[03:58] <holstein> good for you :)
[03:58] <drumhead> lol
[03:59] <holstein> yeah, i dropped out when i figured out you can get paid to play
[03:59] <holstein> http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2010/03/03/new-release-from-ron-brendle-and-mike-holstein-rhizome/
[03:59] <holstein> thats the latest thing i got
[03:59] <holstein> interesting 2 bass project
[04:00] <drumhead> very cool... i have bookmarked it and will check it out when i get sound working on this stupid thing
[04:01] <holstein> drumhead: what kind of programming are you into ?
[04:01] <holstein> im sure the ubuntustudio team would be interested in that kind of help
[04:02] <drumhead> currently i work for a GIS company doing mostly C# programming
[04:03] <drumhead> but, i've been meaning to learn a bit about signal processing, etc for a while
[04:03] <holstein> and now you can
[04:03] <holstein> pure date seems cool
[04:03] <holstein> and i bet its easy if your a programmer
[04:03] <holstein> puredata*
[04:04] <drumhead> interesting. I hadn't heard of that... also bookmarked.
[04:05] <drumhead> well, thanks for all the help holstein
[04:05] <holstein> drumhead: anytime
[04:05] <drumhead> i'm sure i'll see you around here some time
[14:37] <antidonee> whats the latest version
[14:37] <antidonee> of us
[14:37] <persia> 10.04
[14:40] <antidonee> is that over a year old
[14:40] <persia> No.  Four months.
[14:42] <antidonee> whens  the next release
[14:43] <persia> October
[14:44] <antidonee> right around the cornr
[14:44] <persia> Yep.
[14:47] <antidonee> is there a beta version before the relase
[14:47] <persia> Yep.
[14:47] <persia> !schedule
[14:48] <persia> That wasn't quite what I expected :(
[14:48] <persia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule
[14:48] <persia> Beta in just over a week.
[14:49] <antidonee> is that studioo tho
[14:49] <persia> Same archives.  Same schedule.
[14:50] <antidonee> i c
[14:53] <antidonee> wow dates on things that havent happend yet
[14:53] <antidonee> 10/10/10 on 10.10
[14:54] <persia> That's the plan.
[14:59] <antidonee> everyone is goign to throw a massive party
[15:00] <antidonee> and get loaded and be installing 10.10
[15:01] <persia> Lots of folks do that every year.  Join #ubuntu-release-party the day of release.
[15:01] <persia> (it doesn't exist before then)
[15:02] <antidonee> are the file timestmpe going to be 10:10 am   ha ha
[15:02] <persia> I doubt it, but it would be nifty.
[15:03] <antidonee> yes, 10.10  was a great idea
[15:04] <antidonee> lots of smart people around to save the day
[20:02] <Davidmp> how do i use the feisty artwork?
[20:02] <holstein> hey Davidmp
[20:02] <Davidmp> i downloaded it but i want to activate it
[20:02] <Davidmp> hey
[20:02] <holstein> try in themes
[20:03] <holstein> Davidmp: are you running 10.04?
[20:03] <Davidmp> yeah its awesome
[20:03] <holstein> system-preferences-apperance
[20:03] <holstein> and find the wallpaper
[20:03] <holstein> where ever it is
[20:04] <Davidmp> and i noticed that the ubuntu studio uses gnome as its service name
[20:04] <Davidmp> any way to change that?
[20:04] <holstein> Davidmp: service name?
[20:05] <holstein> DNS ?
[20:06] <Davidmp> no
[20:06] <Davidmp> when you first start ubuntu there are sessions
[20:06] <Davidmp> ubuntu studio is named gnome though
[20:06] <holstein> hmmm
[20:06] <Davidmp> -ill be off and on so sorry i dont answer-
[20:06] <holstein> im not sure what you mean
[20:06] <holstein> i think out there
[20:07] <holstein> you are choosing between gnome or KDE
[20:07] <holstein> or whatever LXDE
[20:30] <Davidmp> yeah brb
[20:33] <davidmp> i dont see a session for ubuntu  studio -just restarted for updates-
[20:34] <davidmp> is it just installing apps and a theme?
[20:34] <holstein> davidmp: by the time you get to that login screen
[20:34] <davidmp> mmhm
[20:34] <holstein> you can only login to ubuntu
[20:34] <davidmp> how do i get ubuntu s?
[20:34] <holstein> session lets you choose between gnome or whatever
[20:35] <holstein> ubuntu = ubuntustudio
[20:35] <davidmp> o.o it looks different
[20:35] <holstein> the studio part is just some extra meta packages of software
[20:35] <holstein> yeah
[20:35] <holstein> and a theme
[20:35] <holstein> and no network manager
[20:35] <davidmp> ive had ubuntu studio over xubuntu
[20:35] <davidmp> is that why it looks a little different?
[20:35] <holstein> so, your running XFCE?
[20:35] <davidmp> different icons etc
[20:35] <davidmp> i was i run ubuntu now
[20:36] <holstein> SO
[20:36] <holstein> how did you install ubuntu?
[20:37] <davidmp> i did a fresh install from the iso
[20:37] <holstein> from a xubuntu disc?
[20:37] <davidmp> wiped the harddisk
[20:37] <davidmp> no
[20:37] <davidmp> from a usb flsh drive using ubuntu
[20:37] <davidmp> from ubuntu.com
[20:37] <holstein> OK
[20:37] <holstein> then you added the ubuntustudio stuff
[20:37] <davidmp> yes
[20:37] <holstein> SO you've got vanilla ubuntu
[20:37] <davidmp> yes
[20:37] <holstein> gnome
[20:37] <holstein> and you added the ubuntustudio meta packages
[20:38] <davidmp> no session?
[20:38] <holstein> the session is still gnome
[20:38] <holstein> ubuntustudio just themes gnome
[20:38] <davidmp> ahh ok
[20:38] <holstein> differently
[20:38] <davidmp> i sorta like xfce version of ubuntu studio lol
[20:39] <holstein> you can run whatever widnow manager you want
[20:39] <holstein> and use the ubuntustudio software
[20:39] <davidmp> just have to install ubuntu studio meta packages correct
[20:39] <holstein> what i do
[20:39] <holstein> i tell folks to go to synaptic
[20:39] <holstein> and search ubuntustudio
[20:39] <holstein> and read about the packages
[20:39] <davidmp> mk
[20:39] <holstein> i only get the audio ones
[20:40] <davidmp> im a animator lol
[20:40] <holstein> ubuntustudio-audio
[20:40] <holstein> ubuntustudio-audio-plugings
[20:40] <holstein> ubuntustudio-audio-plugins*
[20:40] <holstein> and linux-rt
[20:40] <holstein> and ubuntustudio-controls
[20:40] <holstein> davidmp: so you dont need most of that stuf
[20:40] <holstein> f
[20:40] <davidmp> yeah
[20:40] <holstein> you probably only need ubuntustudio-graphics and ubuntustudio-video
[20:41] <davidmp> SO i can install xubuntu over ubuntu and download ubuntu studio to that?
[20:41] <holstein> OR you can just go and install the packages you want/use
[20:41] <holstein> davidmp: you can install the meta-packages into whatever
[20:41] <holstein> but the theme related ones will only work in gnome
[20:42] <holstein> i wouldnt get the theme related ones with XFCE or LXDE
[20:42] <holstein> or KDE
[20:42] <davidmp> yeah
[20:42] <holstein> you can install xubuntu
[20:42] <holstein> and run sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-video ubuntustudio-graphics
[20:43] <holstein> thats probably all you need
[20:43] <davidmp> thank you for all your help
[20:43] <holstein> anytime
[20:43] <holstein> davidmp: you can also
[20:43] <holstein> opps
[20:43] <holstein> oh well
[20:44] <holstein> installing xubuntu-desktop would be easier :/
[22:29] <plotino> hi all
[22:29] <plotino> there is any guitar tuner in ubuntu studio?
[22:52] <plotino> anybody in?